Episode Overview:

In this episode, Dr. Kaan Yildizgöz interviews Mohamed Mezghani, Secretary General of UITP, to explore the pressing challenges and opportunities shaping the future of public transport. They delve into key topics such as decarbonisation, digitalisation, workforce challenges, and how public transport must evolve to meet the needs of modern cities. The conversation highlights UITP’s global work in guiding public transport toward more sustainable, inclusive, and efficient solutions.

Host: Dr. Kaan Yildizgöz

Guest: Mohamed Mezghani, Secretary General, UITP (International Association of Public Transport)

Key Topics Discussed:

• Decarbonisation in Public Transport

Mohamed discusses the global transition toward zero-emission vehicles and the complexities transport operators face in implementing electric and hydrogen-powered fleets. He emphasises the need for a system-wide approach that includes depot redesign, power supply infrastructure, and upskilling the workforce to maintain and operate advanced technologies.

• Workforce Challenges in the Industry

Public transport is one of the world’s largest employers, yet it faces a significant shortage of drivers and technical staff. Mohamed outlines six key recommendations to address the recruitment and retention crisis, focusing on improving working conditions, enhancing training programs, and increasing female representation in the sector.

• Free Fare Public Transport Debate

The conversation tackles the growing trend of free fare public transport, with Mohamed providing insights into cities that have adopted the model. He highlights examples from Luxembourg and Dunkirk, where free fare systems were successful due to simultaneous improvements in service quality. Mohamed cautions that simply eliminating fares without increasing service offerings may not shift people from cars to public transport.

• Redefining Public Transport for the Future

Public transport is evolving beyond traditional buses and trains to include a broader range of mobility options such as shared mobility and Mobility as a Service (MaaS). Mohamed explains how integrating these services into a comprehensive mobility ecosystem is essential for creating car-free cities. He stresses the importance of shared mobility, digital platforms, and political will in redefining public transport for future generations.

Memorable Quotes:

• "Decarbonisation must be a priority, but it’s not just about zero-emission vehicles—it’s about having more and better public transport." – Mohamed Mezghani

• "The public transport sector must become an employer of choice. We need to improve working conditions and career prospects to attract new talent." – Mohamed Mezghani

• "Free fare public transport is the wrong answer to a very important question. We need to focus on improving the quality and frequency of service to make public transport more attractive." – Mohamed Mezghani

UITP’s Future Plans:

• UITP Summit 2025 in Hamburg

Mohamed shares exciting details about the upcoming UITP Summit in Hamburg, marking UITP’s 140th anniversary. The summit will focus on decarbonisation, localised transport solutions, sustainable mobility, workforce diversity, and public transport’s role in achieving the UN’s Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). He invites all listeners to attend this landmark event, taking place from 15-18 June 2025.

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• Host: Dr. Kaan Yildizgoz

• Producer: Mike Cartmel

• Executive Producer: Darren Turpin

Special thanks to:

• Brand design: Tina Olagundoye

• Digital Media: Belén Iturrioz Campo

If you have a question or comment, email us at mike.cartmel@modaxo.com

00:00 Introduction to the Mobility Redefined Podcast

01:09 Decarbonization in Public Transport

05:44 Addressing Workforce Challenges in Public Transport

11:15 The Debate on Free Fare Public Transport

15:44 Redefining Public Transport for the Future

19:19 UITP's Legacy and Future Plans

24:44 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Decarbonization, Free Public Transport, and Workforce Dynamics: Insights with UITP's Mohamed Mezghani