Shaytra Bryant (2:40)

Hey everybody.

John O'Bryant (2:42)

Of health and wealth and in Many ways I've learned health is wealth. Shetra has taught me that this is going to be a love conversation, like about you. And you'll learn a bit more about Shaitra. Behind every successful man is an exhausted woman. And I wear out her. Her patience on a regular basis. But she's always utterly patient with me, irrespective. And there's so many things that I could say about her that are great and amazing, but this is not about. This is not a love session about her. Even though I'd love to spend a session just loving on her. You've heard me talk about her before, but let me spend some quality time explaining her through how she's loved me. So when we first met. To this day, she's one of two women who ever given me a check, my mother and her. And it's the. The story. I lay the story out and I think the book up from nothing, so you can read that there. And so I knew she didn't have an agenda other than loving me. And I knew that she was, you know, she just.

Shaytra Bryant (3:57)

Was she.

John O'Bryant (3:57)

She just cared about me. This was, you know, when I didn't have any money, I was broke. She helped me out 20 years ago. I've known her for 25 years, so I knew if she helped me when I didn't have anything, she'd be there for me. Likewise, when I had a couple dollars in my pocket. And those things matter, it calms you in times when everything else is frantic around you, at least you know, without question, somebody is absolutely for you. Fast forward. We got together and after knowing each other for 20, almost 20 years, and I invited her to go to Maui. This is my little. My place of peace. And she said yes. And then she said no. She's like, I'm concerned about your blood pressure. Like, your blood pressure seems a little high. You need to go to the cardiologist. I'm like, I'll be fine. I'm Superman. She's like, no, you're my. If you want to be my man, you need to get your heart checked. So anyway, I go to the cardiologist, and she was right. My blood pressure was. I mean, it was almost. It was like 200 over 100. Not that bad, but it was, it.

Shaytra Bryant (5:09)

Was, it was like. Yeah, it was like 180 over. It was in a. In a space of concern. Even though you were on blood pressure medicine?

John O'Bryant (5:21)

Was I on a blood pressure medicine? I don't think I was taking it, actually. No, I. Actually, I'm almost.

Shaytra Bryant (5:25)

That's Right. You weren't taking your medicine. You got the medicine.

John O'Bryant (5:28)

Because I didn't think I needed it. I didn't think I needed. I needed any medicine because I thought, I'm Superman, I'm John o' Brien. I don't need medicine. I look great, right? So anyway, so we go to the cardiologist. Cardiologist is like, yo, man, you really are in great shape. And you are sort of weird, but even somebody who goes with your. Who burns up your sort of energy and, you know, and you're, you know, you're getting exercise, going through airports on stuff. You still. Black folks have, you know, blood pressure issues, and your blood pressure is abnormally high. And that's all they do is mention the word stroke. Like that's. It could be in stroke zone, right? So he's like, you gotta take your medicine. And I thought it was like a symbol of. Of weakness that I've got to take some medicine. It took. It was a real thing for me, like, because taking the medicine meant that I wasn't perfect. That was a whole nother thing about accepting that perfection didn't exist. Just the best you can do. That's what one of my quotes I love is. Don't let the perfect be the death of the good. Like, even your iPhone 16, if you have one of those, they're already issuing a software that's almost an iPhone 19 software. The phone just came out. They've already, you know, 16, 16, 5, 17, 17, 5, 18, 18, 5. Because they're constantly upgrading it because there's glitches. No matter what you do, you can always improve upon it and always be imperfect. So I had to accept that God made me perfect in his sight, but I was imperfect in my plight and how I had operated. Because we're human. We live in this world with toxins all around us, whatever. So I had to get over the fact that I need to take medicine. So I got that. We went to Maui. She finally allowed us to get on the plane, go to Maui, has a great time. And normally I go to Maui and, you know, two, three weeks of being in this beautiful place, you know, any. Any flab or whatever on me. I'm on a bike every day, whatever. But this time, the flat wouldn't go away. And I don't. I'm vain. So I had handles here. I'm like, oh, no, I'm not doing that. That's not happening. So she didn't say a word. This is when you got the power. You don't need to use it, she didn't say a word. So we get back from Maui, we had a great time, and I was in New York City. I remember it was like two in the morning. I was walking across the street to get some Tums.

Shaytra Bryant (7:35)

You were eating like those Pepto.

John O'Bryant (7:37)

I was popping this Pepto this moment, Tums. And so she finally, I'm walking across the street, it's two in the morning from the hotel. She's like, are you done? Like, you ready for this conversation? What? She's like, you need to cleanse. Like, you know, I can't talk you into this. You're hard headed, you're double alpha, right? Yeah. But are you, if you're ready for a real conversation, like, you just gotta get this. She told me a couple things that just blew my mind. 1,75% of all disease lives on inflammation. Did I get that right?

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John O'Bryant (8:11)

And you're inflamed. You're inflamed because you're eating a lot of processed food. And your, your lungs, your body is not prepared to, it's not designed to process, process food. Your, your body's designed for natural, you know, food from the earth and so on and so forth. And what she said made all the sense in the world to me. She said, so you can't get this because it's not fat. This is not fat. You're inflamed and you can't work that off. You got to have to cleanse it out of your body. And so I'm like, okay, I'm too vain. Like, I can't have this, this, this stuff here. So what do I have to do? So I went on a cleanse. I think she was, she suggested a wimp cleanse for like five days. I did it for, you know, almost two weeks. I was very proud of myself. And it wasn't bad, it was okay. So one thing she did on this trip to Maui, she blew my, my mind. My thing about being, I call it a flexitarian. She might call it a pescatarian, or you might call it a vegetarian, or what's the other one? Vegetarian. Then there's vegan. All these different elements of cleansing. Raw, vegan, Raw, raw, vegan. Rod McGrew, my dear friend, is a vegan, I believe. So. I'm like, this stuff. Nasty. I'm not eating nasty. Don't put nothing nasty in my mouth. You want me to do this? Don't. So brothers watching this, can you relate to what I'm saying? So she gives me a chocolate chip cookie handmade in Maui. I'm like, does she realize what she just did? Like, I'm not going to tell her that. She just gave me like, like chocolate gold, right? And so this is toxin on, on steroids. So I'm eating this, you know, before she figures it out what she's given me. And she doesn't say a word. I'm like, I mean I've eaten the whole box plate of these things. Shay, you, you cool with this? Yeah, perfectly fine with this. Why? And then she shows me the ingredients or the box. It's a vegan cookie. I mean it was delicious. Second thing I learned was I love coffee. And I used to put white sugar in, in the coffee. I don't drink. I don't do drugs. I don't, I don't, I don't, you know, I don't have an alcohol problem. I don't have a drug problem. I don't smoke. But, but I, I would, you know, I love coffee and I'd put this white sugar. And she, she explained to me that that's like poison and it's. And so she explained to me like, this is the worst thing in the world, sugar. And I, I tried brown sugar and I was like, oh, this is pretty cool. But you know, she gave me this creamer. Do you remember the name of it? Almond milk natural creamer. Do we know that? Do we say the, the brand?

Shaytra Bryant (10:48)

I can't remember.

John O'Bryant (10:50)

Camera. The brand. Anyway, if you want, if you're really interested in the comment, we'll, we don't want to promote somebody. Some, we don't mind promoting it actually a good brand, but I can't remember the moment. But we use this creamer, all natural. It replaced sugar and cream. Delicious. Like, I mean completely natural. So over and over again all of my biases got removed. Now pack it, we pack it when we go to Maui or we go to Turks and Caicos or we literally pack in, in the, in the luggage just in case you don't have it there. So that's a couple stories. And my blood pressure came down naturally based on what she was telling me to do. And now for a long time, the longest time I took half a pill and the goal is to sort of work me off of that if I'm on a high stress period. She says it talks me on tour. If I'm on tour, then she might encourage me to take the full pill for a period of time because I'm just depleted, not sleeping well, all that kind of stuff. We're gonna get to the power sleep In a minute. So these are a couple times where, you know, she really maybe just saved my life. Like, literally that blood pressure thing can literally not take you out.

Shaytra Bryant (11:50)

You know, I, I feel that we just don't go to the doctor enough. And when we, when we get the simple signs, like if there is a number that's off, it's called integrative care, and we just need to catch it then. And, you know, I know I stay on John about his blood pressure, but I had the same problem. And that's actually what birthed me into doing wellness and helping other people learn about blood pressure and how to naturally work your way into eating better and living a healthier lifesty from that, because I just had really bad side effects from some of the medication. And I was much younger when I got diagnosed with high blood pressure. And I just struggled with the medication, but I took the medication because my blood pressure was high and I didn't want to have a heart attack. And so I worked integratively with my doctor and it took me two years. It didn't happen overnight. And that's really what, like, birthed me, being able to, like, help others.

John O'Bryant (12:53)

You're in your 20s, right?

Shaytra Bryant (12:54)

I was in my 20s and I was on three.

John O'Bryant (12:57)

She thought she was bulletproof too, right? When I tell you that this was a VIP bracelet girl, I mean, she would go to three events, four events a night, and be like, okay, what else? What else? This is only midnight, one in the morning.

Shaytra Bryant (13:07)

Well, I didn't even know. A lot of people when they get diagnosed with high blood pressure, they don't even know you don't. You don't know you have high blood pressure. So, you know, I was just going for my, my yearly regular blood, my yearly regular wellness checkup. And they're like, wait a minute. Your pressure is really high. Do you feel dizzy? And I'm like, she was on her 20s. No. You know, and so they're like, oh, we're going to put you on some medication. And I was like, okay. And of course I took the medication, but because I studied nutrition and herbology.

John O'Bryant (13:38)

And she's got a degree in, in nutrition, really. Degree into wellness and degree in fashion. And, you know, she's like a triple threat, but.

Shaytra Bryant (13:50)

But I had high blood pressure and I was able to work my way off of it. And it took me two years. And I just, I'm able to kind of like, help others, guide them along. And so you've done, you've done a good job. He's done a nice Job, not bad.

John O'Bryant (14:06)

And the most recent threat. So. So, you know, before I start talking about you, I'm gonna talk about me. The most recent threat. You know, one of the things that men get is prostate cancer and all this stuff and colon cancer and whatever. And after I went to these yearly. I don't want to get too graphic here, but I'd go to a yearly physical and they would check you out for prostate cancer. Knows what I'm talking about, brother. Don't fear it. Just go. Just go do it. We know you're a real man.

Shaytra Bryant (14:37)

Early detection is everything.

John O'Bryant (14:38)

Yes, yes, yes. But I'm just being real. Like, I had to get used to the whole situation. So anyway, then now that. So now that was enough. Now they tell me I need to go to get a colonoscopy. Now, I've heard all kind of stories about that and, and let me just tell you, the stories are overblown. I went, oh, you gotta. The preparation. Oh my God. And then you go to the thing. It's all overblown. The preparation is nothing. You go to the, to get the colonoscopy, they knock you out. It's nothing. And you walk out and you're like, okay, when are you starting? Like, no, it's over. And it's like nothing. And here's the greatest, the great part. If you're clean, and I was clean, no pun intended, you're good for 10 years. You don't go back for 10 years. Like, yeah, so I did a video. I was sort of loopy. They gave me some kind of drugs. I don't do drugs. I was gone. I was loopy. Shakespeare was in the van with me and on the way home, and I was like, brothers, you got to go do this. And if you, if you like being relaxed and then whatever they're giving you will do that too. It's a natural high, you know, or a natural high or what is a permitted high? Anyway, so I, I've checked all the boxes and I can, I can tell you that working out every day a little bit and staying in shape and eating right. The food is good, actually. And I make sure every time I eat something, if I'm going to eat beef, it's farm raised. Whenever I can, I try to eat fish a couple times a week. Something green on my plate, something. And a little bit of starch. That she doesn't navigate the starch. I do, but she wants something green on your plate. Salad won't kill you. Brothers.

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John O'Bryant (19:29)

Okay, so let's get into this because she's also the chairman of the National Minority Health Association. She has a company called Wellness360. She if you come to the Hope Global Forum, you've seen the Wellness360 booth, if you want to call it that, at the forum. And she does free wellness checkups. This last time they were sold out. Who would call it that? There was just no appointments available. I tried to get an appointment, I couldn't. It's like hell. I'm the chairman and founder and that's my wife. They're like, you're going to see her at home because there's no appointments here, brother. A couple of sponsors were upset because they couldn't get in. It was very, very popular. Okay, so black wealth gaps. None of that matters if you aren't here to enjoy it. So let's have some real talk conversation.

Shaytra Bryant (20:17)

Physically able to be able to do, to enjoy, right?

John O'Bryant (20:22)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So let's, but let's do, let's deal with. You ain't here first. So if you live in a, in a 500 credit score neighborhood, you live to 61 years of age. I have a theory about that. I think. You think, I think you're in a surviving mindset. I think you're stressed out. I think you're, I think you're depressed. I think that your body just wears down. No different than if you're £350. There's no, there's no 350 pound 80 year olds because your body is, wasn't designed to handle 350 pounds. Your knees, your lungs, nothing. And so you just, your body gives out. Think about that. There are no 350 pound 80 year olds. Think about that. So likewise, you know, you're not human beings having a spiritual experience. Where spiritual beings have a human experience. It makes sense that you In a 700 credit score neighborhood, you lived 81, 15 minutes away. In a 500 credit score neighborhood, you lived at 61. Before you get Social Security, you drop dead. Let's talk about people who've actually made a lot of money and unfortunately health took them out. Chadwick Boseman, 43 years of age, brilliant brother. I mean I just loved the movies and loved his character. Didn't get a chance to meet him, but what I know about him, amazing. Didn't share his colon cancer diagnosis publicly. The importance of screening for black men is omnipotent. We've been talking about that. Just get screened on a regular basis and don't. And no shame in this game, right? And DMX, he was 50 years old. Addiction and trauma. Untreated conversations on mental health and generational pain are really important. My brother Charlemagne, thy God is really passionate about mental health and has a mental health foundation. We've got to start talking about our mindset and being cool about the fact that we're not cool. Or I put another way, if you're black in America and don't think you're a little crazy, you're probably crazy. This world will drive you nuts. Just acknowledge it, right? Heavy D, 44 years of age. Died of pulmonary of a pulmonary embolism. Signs of sedentary lifestyle and post weight loss. Health management. Andre Harrell, 59 years of age. I'm 59. Heart failure. I mean, a music mogul who helped shape the culture, yet neglected self care. Maybe so Shisha might add, fame and money do not protect you from preventable diseases and death. In some cases they make you more vulnerable because you think maybe that you are. You think that you're. It doesn't apply to you. Think about Prince. Whatever he was dealing with, you know, nobody caught it around him. There's so many examples of this. And Shane, I will have these conversations about. We'll hear some icon or somebody she knows in their 40s or 50s, drop dead. And she's like, this is she. And it just frustrates her because she thinks that with a little bit of self care, people loving on them like she's loved on me, they'd still be around and have children, grandchildren, etc. What's your opinion about that?

Shaytra Bryant (23:31)

Also, you know, you don't want to have kidney failure, which leads to kidney dialysis, which leads to possible amputation, which means you're not going to be able to live your best life. And I know dropping dead is one thing, but also not feeling your best is another. So it's very hard to function and, and build wealth and thrive and do all the things and have joy and play with your kids and go on vacations or whatever your pleasure is. It's very hard to do that when you don't feel good and it's very hard to work at your maximum human capacity when you have some type of illness or even just are sluggish. I mean, we're deep diving into disease right now, but we're really talking about mindfulness and wellness and taking care of yourself and nurturing yourself and putting yourself first in terms of self love and self care and nurturing. And I think that that's the real conversation, the real route from, for my space is in order for you to like be able to do and at your, your maximum potential and give. You've got to be able to fill your own cup with self care and, and prevention and, and remove the shame. Yeah. And like, you know, we can sit here and say I'm, I'm sure. I don't know if people would think oh, you guys have, have high blood pressure or oh, you guys have had to watch your sugar intake or.

John O'Bryant (25:05)

Yes. Yesterday, this morning. Right.

Shaytra Bryant (25:09)

Like, you know, yeah, we have to watch everything that we do and make it a priority to take care of ourselves so that you know, we're able to, to perform and deliver, you know, the best, our best selves to, to helping others.

John O'Bryant (25:27)

And so by the way, look at that. By the way. This was not conscious, but I noticed it as I was doing it. I don't hurt. I'm doing this whenever I've got a moment. I'm. This is stretching. So I'm sitting here sedentary, sedentary, but I'm giving myself a little bit of a stretch. Right. You can do this from wherever you're sitting. Right. I do this. I stretch every day. Every, you know, every morning I do a 15 minute workout when I wake up. Push ups, sit ups, squats, just. You gotta keep your body moving. If I can get, there's a gym where I'm staying, the hotel or whatever, I go to the gym when I can.

Shaytra Bryant (25:59)

When I don't have, I mean hydration is every hydration.

John O'Bryant (26:02)

Water.

Shaytra Bryant (26:02)

Water.

John O'Bryant (26:03)

Yeah, my water bottle.

Shaytra Bryant (26:04)

Water.

John O'Bryant (26:04)

Water, Water, water, water, more water.

Shaytra Bryant (26:06)

And, and you have to find your own rhythm, add things, your own lifestyle that works for you, that doesn't stress you out and becomes like a daily routine that makes you feel better. Not something that, you know, adds more stress to your life. You have to figure out your steps like that works just for you.

John O'Bryant (26:27)

Let me, let me say something. She's much nicer than me. If you, if you figure this out. I'm the eagle, she's a butterfly. I'm the, I'm the, I'm the hard nose. She's the love. I'm the, you know. Yeah, once people talk to her, they forget I'm in the room. But let me just say this like straight up. Wellness is a radical act of black love self. Black love for black People. And you've been hoodwinked, you've been bamboozled, you've been tricked, you've been fooled. This is why you're starting off on the bad foot. When you see black people in our neighborhoods, a lot of them are large, but it's not that. They're not, in my opinion, they're not overweight, they're obese, but I think they're inflamed. This is just my philosophy. I think a lot of black people are inflamed. Like, literally just like. Right. And I think it's. Yes, stress and all that stuff. It's environmental, but it's also a slave diet. Yeah, I said it that in the slavery period, the man, the plantation owner, threw the crappiest food out the back door as a sign of disrespect. Don't trust me on this. Do your own research. And it was. And we, We. We turned it. Black folks been doing so much with so little for so long, we can almost do anything with nothing. I'm not trying to put soul food restaurants out of business. So don't.

Shaytra Bryant (27:42)

I mean, collard greens are good for you.

John O'Bryant (27:44)

Okay, slow down. Okay. You can give an excuse before we explain it. So I love. I love soul food. I. I eat soul food. Just don't. Just don't do it three times a day, every day. So they. They threw this stuff out the back door, and we turn it into delicacies. Grits, hog malls, pig feet, ribs, fried chicken. I mean, why did we do salt, which is a big contributor to. Is it blood pressure? We do salt on that. On that. That. That food. Why? Because it was out in the heat. And one way you preserve food is to salt it up. Well, that salt, over generations, I think it seeped into our whole DNA. I mean, we're talking about, you know, 270 years of slavery and then 100 years of Jim Crow. It's a long time to have things embedded in your. In your culture, in your. In your. In your spirit. So I think that just. We got used to this food. We. We eat it as, you know, we ate it because we had to, then we ate it because we liked it and because I think it became almost a companion, a comfort food. And we have got to. And then combine that with fast food and poor, poor neighborhoods with a lot of it. It's fast, but not food. She's had to teach me this also. I try to eat fast food when I have no other choice. Some fast foods are better than others. I do like McDonald's french fries.

Shaytra Bryant (29:10)

And now fast food restaurants, they also have healthy choices.

John O'Bryant (29:13)

Healthy choices like McDonald's has salads and.

Shaytra Bryant (29:16)

Don'T do certain things. It's the way you prepare it. So if you're going to have soul food, which I like soul food myself too, and it's just the way you prepare it, you know, be mindful about the salt and the sugar. You can still have healthy collard greens.

John O'Bryant (29:35)

And don't you. Is there a healthy salt that you.

Shaytra Bryant (29:37)

Put on sweet potatoes?

John O'Bryant (29:38)

There's just, there's a healthier salt that I see Himalayan salt that she uses.

Shaytra Bryant (29:43)

Just be mindful about the way that you prepare, you know, fried chicken. Bake the chicken instead of fry it or still taste good or air fry it. Just, you know, it's really about a healthier alternative to add into your daily experience. Not just don't. If you, you know, if you're going to go through a fast food restaurant, then try to make the healthiest decision of what's healthy when you go through it.

John O'Bryant (30:10)

Yeah, the least bad option still tastes good to you. Here's a weird thing. When I eat something that I think I want now because she's not around something really bad for me, my body's like, it's so clean now that it, it rejects it. Like, I can eat. I used to be able to eat eight donuts. You know, I can't get through one before. My body's like, oh, that was good. Oh, no, that's really bad. That's just one example. But the, the, the stuff that used to turn me on turns me off now. Like, my body just does. Just rejects it. Her body's very sensitive. Like, if she eats the wrong thing, She's. She's just not a happy. Her body, she's not a happy camper. It rejects it. She's. Her body's very clean. And I respect that, actually. And as a result of that's kept her timeless. You. I dare you to guess. So I, I think we've got to be. We've got to, we've got to be concerned about not just financial wealth, but physical health. And there are some tips and tricks that Shantra has, and hopefully she will give you some before we end this podcast. But, you know, let's acknowledge some things. It's stressful being black 24 7. It's like my boy, my brother, CEO of Walmart, Doug McMillan, after George Floyd got murdered, he invited me to a diversity session. I'm like, doug, I'm black. Like, I think I get it. He's like, just trust me. Just do me a favor. Just come. Maybe you can educate everybody else. I mean, we were in Turks and Caicos, and I did this as a favorite adult. And by the way, they're still fully committed to underserved communities. They're the largest employer of black people in the country. Just so you know, 350,000 that just. By the way, look at the data. They're still employing people, contracting the whole thing. They just didn't want to be a political football. So anyway, so Ducks, who grew up in Walmart, was a box boy. I mean, like a stocking shelves, and now he's CEO. Anyway, he. He gets me to go to this session and I'm hooked. Like, the session was incredible. I learned so much. But the line I remember, if you're white, how often do you think about being white? Respondents on this, on the video call, almost never. Why would you. If you're black, how often do you think about being black? All the time. Every day. The last five minutes you go into a store, you go, you know, you. You get pulled over by the police. You see the police. You know, you're thinking about how you present yourself in a meeting. You realize that you got to be twice as smart, twice as intelligent, twice as well dressed, get up twice as early as they have, twice as late, be twice as good, because you're going to be judged and get half the credit. That's stressful. You know, she tells me to apply to black women all the time, and, you know, it must be really stressful to be a black woman. But I know what it's like being a black man. And the haters have made me better, Made me better. But I do realize how many years I went around my. What I call my. My rear end tight. Like I was just trying to be perfect. And it was, you know, I realize there's no perfect now, but I mean, I was just overdoing everything. And it was. It was damaging my health. And so it is. It. Let's just acknowledge that if you're black and you're looking at this, no one's. No one's giving you a lecture. No one's talking down to you. We acknowledge that it is. If you're black, you're born on probation in America, you'll be twice, you know, twice as good. And as. And that may not be good enough, but we want you to love yourself first. Because I think that a lot of black people are depressed, and if I don't like me, I'm not gonna like you. If I don't feel good about me. I'm not gonna feel good about you. If I don't respect me, don't expect me to respect you. If I don't love me, I don't have a clue how to love you. Look at her. She clearly loves herself, right? She's not in love with herself. She knows that there are many faults, but she loves herself, which, which allows her to love others, right? So you can't give what you don't have. So I want you to learn to love yourself and I want you to have a routine that is mental, psychological and physical. What are some of the things? What are the key? Sleep, movement, hydration, regular checkups. What are some of the things?

Shaytra Bryant (34:31)

The first thing is to, if you can get yourself to a wellness checkup. If you've put it off, don't put it off any longer. Get a group together and hold each other accountable. That's what we do. My girlfriends and I, we, I have a tribe and we keep each other accountable because as nurturers, we naturally have a tendency not to do what we were supposed to do. And you know, arts, at the top of the year, we hold each other accountable and, and I will say, even I'll, I will ignore it sometime, you know, like, they'll paint like, okay, ladies, wellness checks time. Who hasn't been, you know, and I'm like, am I the last one that hasn't gone?

John O'Bryant (35:16)

But also, you guys work out together. Yeah, you guys were walking in the morning or running in the morning, six or seven in the morning, some crazy thing we do.

Shaytra Bryant (35:23)

But it works because, you know, because, you know, to get the kids off to school and you know, so we, you have to carve out a time. But if you have someone that does it with you and you find something fun to do together, then you'll continue to do it.

John O'Bryant (35:39)

So let me tell you, let me tell you a shade or a hack that she took too far. She told me that 70% of, of work, of staying in good shape. People look at her like, my God, how do you, how do you do this? You look great, right? She told me 70 of this is what you put in your mouth, is what you eat. Well, 30 is working out 80% or something like that. Yeah. Because she lived in Manhattan for so long, she, she would walk around with 3 inch pumps all through Manhattan with a skirt on.

Shaytra Bryant (36:07)

Her move a lot more.

John O'Bryant (36:08)

You move a lot, so you're naturally in motion. So she just took that for granted and well, she moved to Atlanta and it's Not a city you walk around in. It's elite. See, you drive in.

Shaytra Bryant (36:18)

I have to really like make an effort to.

John O'Bryant (36:20)

Yeah, so she, she realized she wasn't working out so she wasn't doing the 30%. So she. Now she's on that. So even she falls off. I fall off. Like you're human?

Shaytra Bryant (36:30)

Oh no, I fall off like every week.

John O'Bryant (36:32)

Well, not that much, but yes. Yeah, she, you know, we're just saying just cut yourself a break.

Shaytra Bryant (36:38)

But, but my suggestion is to.

John O'Bryant (36:41)

And she's in bed by midnight, by the way, unlike me.

Shaytra Bryant (36:43)

So sleep, sleep is.

John O'Bryant (36:46)

She will walk, she will go to sleep on you in a mid sentence, right? Like, like midnight hits. Boom. She, she's committed to it.

Shaytra Bryant (36:54)

Well, it took me a long time, it took me a long time to train myself to get proper amount of sleep. And I would, it would, it would be hard for me to get through the days because I need my brain and so if I don't get enough adequate amount of sleep, I'm, I full fully give. You know, if I'm health coaching or, or doing something for the community or taking care of somebody, I just, I need to get, be able to give my full self and just for my, for me, I need that amount of sleep in order to be able to fully function. And once I realized I'm better if I get that amount of sleep, I became more disciplined about it. And, and then make sure you tell everyone around you that I have to go to sleep.

John O'Bryant (37:39)

You know, like you can be all jacked up and looking crazy tomorrow, but I'm not gonna be. Charity starts at home. Bye. I'm out.

Shaytra Bryant (37:46)

Well, when you get a support structure around you, that helps.

John O'Bryant (37:50)

So by the way, a given, a giver, exotic, a giving or taker, neurotic, A taker to take her psychotic. Hello. Watch, watch your environment. You hang around nine bro people, you'll be the 10th. You hang around nine unhealthy people, you'll be the tenth. Like that's what she's saying. Watch, watch who you hang around because you'll model what you see well also.

Shaytra Bryant (38:10)

You can encourage each other as well.

John O'Bryant (38:12)

That's a nicer way for her to say, say get the toxicity out of your life and be positive each other. She's nicer to me, but if you.

Shaytra Bryant (38:18)

Start something then other people might enjoy it as well. Or find groups of like I like to roller skate. So see there if you want to.

John O'Bryant (38:26)

You know, I hadn't thought about. She does go roller skating.

Shaytra Bryant (38:29)

Find a hobby that you like. That's active and do it together. You know, go to, you know, go for a walk. I know like we live in Atlanta and I know we all love to walk the belt line and we don't even know, we don't even realize that how far we walked because there's entertaining things on the way and you know people and you know it's nice outside and but, but if you don't, if you cannot do all of that, just simply find time for yourself in the morning. Whether it's five to ten minutes, breathing exercises. You can, you can, there's every app on the phone these days helps you. It's just really, you know, meditation. Meditation?

John O'Bryant (39:12)

Yeah.

Shaytra Bryant (39:12)

You know I always tell people just start with one thing and then once you get that one thing mastered then start with the next thing and get.

John O'Bryant (39:20)

Crazy people out your life. Hit the toxicity. Okay.

Shaytra Bryant (39:23)

That's a different, that's a different toxicity matters. Maybe we'll back, come, come back and.

John O'Bryant (39:28)

Talk about like exercise your positivity. That's who, that's her. Look at that smile. I'm like how can you, how can you be not. How can you be mad at Shadra? Exercise your. She's just positive.

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Shaytra Bryant (42:15)

Try to stay positive. Start with affirmations. When I'm in a bad mood or something, I'm not feeling my best. Then I just go to like a positive affirmation.

John O'Bryant (42:25)

What is it? You had a CEO on the run program?

Shaytra Bryant (42:28)

Yes.

John O'Bryant (42:28)

Yeah. What were some things you would tell there's some CEOs watching now or CEOs in the middle.

Shaytra Bryant (42:33)

CEOs on the run.

John O'Bryant (42:34)

What would you tell them?

Shaytra Bryant (42:38)

Team no sleep.

John O'Bryant (42:40)

Exactly.

Shaytra Bryant (42:42)

You know, CEOs on the run. I love working with CEOs because CEOs are so disciplined. And so all you have to do is tell you guys like three things to do and then you guys do it. Hydration. Find a way to exercise and do a food journal of what you're eating so you know, and then you can pick out what, what you did good and what you did bad and then switch it up. Cut it out. Yeah, it's so easy like for you guys. Like, because the way your wife follow orders you follow, you guys don't want to think it's structured. You. You're structured. You don't want to have any more put on you, but you just want to have somebody tell you the most positive thing to do for your own.

John O'Bryant (43:23)

Body and then tell me it's not nasty. Tell me I may live longer and I'm not going to be crep at my Older age.

Shaytra Bryant (43:30)

Yeah.

John O'Bryant (43:31)

Okay. You got my attention. And she. She turned me on this thing called AG1. It's crazy. She turned me on into it. Then she doesn't drink it because she doesn't like the taste of it, but she does something else. But AG1 is like 75 essential vitamins, nutrients, probiotics. I know what this stuff, all this stuff was, but I know now. And it's everything you need in one little packet. I pour it into some cold water. Don't use warm water or lukewarm, you won't like it. But in cold water, it tastes great. And I drink that every morning without fail. Every morning. And it should make.

Shaytra Bryant (44:02)

It's mixing because you were supposed to take a vitamin.

John O'Bryant (44:04)

Yeah, I didn't like taking vitamins.

Shaytra Bryant (44:06)

But you found what worked for you, right?

John O'Bryant (44:08)

Yeah, right. Yeah. Find what works for you and do that. So I found that. That. That really worked for me. And something else worked for shaders. He didn't, you know, and then I. Now I put all kind of little drops in the. In the Ag one. I'm now adding. I'm like the king cocktails. I got to. Was that lasting? I'm doing soursop. Soursop, which does, I think, gut health and. Yeah, something else. And so we like all this. I'm. I'm hooked now. The five big killers of black Americans.

Shaytra Bryant (44:39)

Yeah.

John O'Bryant (44:39)

Heart disease, cancer, stroke, diabetes, kidney disease, all linked to lifestyle. Speak to that.

Shaytra Bryant (44:48)

Yeah. I mean, most of it is built around, you know, dis ease of the body and.

John O'Bryant (44:59)

Wow, that's a word. Diseases. Disease. Who? That's a word. Say that again. Disease. A lot of disease is dis ease. That's a word.

Shaytra Bryant (45:11)

The body. So a lot of it begins.

John O'Bryant (45:16)

That's why you keep a lot of emotional toxicity out of your environment, because it's dis ease.

Shaytra Bryant (45:20)

Dis ease. Your body is not at ease, you know, and it starts around visceral fat and inflammation, as we discussed, which shows.

John O'Bryant (45:30)

Up in visceral fat or inflammation.

Shaytra Bryant (45:31)

Right. And that's how.

John O'Bryant (45:32)

Yeah.

Shaytra Bryant (45:33)

And, you know, a lot of it is around obesity. We have an obesity epidemic here in America, and if we. If you can, you know, get a hold of your obesity level, usually that helps not have disease. And that's very controversial statement I'm saying right now. So I don't know. That's not controversial.

John O'Bryant (45:58)

That's real talk. People know that. You come to my podcast, it's about. And by the way, thanks for helping this podcast be top 100 in business in the country and top 50.

Shaytra Bryant (46:07)

But disease cannot Live on in an alkaline system. And so yeah, you cut me off.

John O'Bryant (46:15)

When I was talking. Hello. You may forget what the heck I was saying. I was saying thank you and I was actually making a point. No, people know that this is straight talk and they know that don't use 20 words what two will do before we get back to the alkaline system. Just to sort of underscore what she's saying about how important, you know, self care is and being your own wellness center in your life. A lot of docs so sep. So a third of the economy, give or take, is health care. A third give or take, about 70% of that is spent in the last quartile of your life. So the doc, the medical profession is throwing all this stuff at you when your body's failing to try to keep you alive because you want to stay alive. It happened to my mother, it happened to my daddy. My dad had my dad hooked up to a million dollars worth of machines when he was dying. And it was clear either as a doctor said, what do you want to do, John? Like what are you asking me? They're like, well, you're the, you know, the one that's in charge here. And either you're, you know, what became clear to me was I said the doctor, you're playing God. He says, no, I'm not playing God, you are. It's not because you got to decide, you know, what we do is your dad, we're keeping your dad's body alive with a machine. And it was at, it was Cedarsina Medical center here in LA actually. And I remember it hit me, either my dad's body has given up. He's given up, or God's called him, but, but this physical party is over. And so we had to make peace with that. I don't know how long you gonna live, but I know I dang sure know you're gonna die. It's not a mystery. So you've got to prepare, live. And I've been telling my dad to do certain things and he, he ignored me. As far as far as his wellness is concerned, my mother was a little better. She's a lot better. But I wish she would have done more stuff for herself, not just for, for her children. As far as her wellness is concerned, she ate well, but she didn't exercise as much as I thought she should have. I think she could have extended her wellness. But once you start falling and things start breaking, that can become a thing, right?

Shaytra Bryant (48:21)

And your mindset, remember your. They always say you know, your mind. Your body hears your mind. Your body hears what your mind tells it.

John O'Bryant (48:30)

Yes, and. Yes, and. And it's what you. And when we say it's what you don't know that you don't know. Shaju taught me this. That applies to the medical profession as well. So I realized when I was on one of my Maui trips, I was having problems with my back. It was so bad. This is going back 20 years now. My back pain was so bad, I had to lay down on the. On the ground to get through a phone call. I'm like, okay, I'm 30 years old, and I'm. I'm done. Like, I'm gonna have. I'm, you know, being mobilized. I went to Maui and went to a chiropractor, and he showed me that my one leg was shorter than the other. But you've heard this thing said, oh, one leg's shorter than the other this way you are. No. They gave me an adjustment, and it equalized my legs. I was out of alignment. But then it went back. And so anyway, before this, they're like, oh, you need to get a lift in your shoe. So I paid back. Then it was a thousand dollars to get a. A custom lift made for my shoe. Now you can go get them for 40 bucks from, you know, whatever store, Dr. Shoals, whatever. So anyway, I did that, but then that worked for six months. Then the pain came back. I'm like, okay, wait. I went back to the doctor. So you're telling me I'm. I got it shorter than short? Like. Like, okay, this is a. This is some kind of a racket. So I went and found a foam. A foam roller, a rumble roller. And I started rolling that on the muscles. Not my back, but my glute muscles, my sciatic. Around my sciatic nerve and all this stuff. And I found the pain went away over time. It was painful to get down in. Deep into that. But the pain in my back went away. I found it was something called fascia tissue. So. So this doctor was trying to get Ambassador on to get up knee surgery, and black doctor, good guy. And he was like, you should. You should tell Ambassador let me do knee surgery on him. I said, well, you know, I talked about it. He doesn't really interested in that. Whatever. But then he started complaining about his back. And I said, well, this is a medical doctor. This is a surgeon. I said, well, maybe it's the fascia tissue. And Kshetra. He said, what's that? So I came home and I mentioned that to Shaytra. And we're like, well, yeah, these doctors are not trained in a lie. They're trained on cadavers, on dead tissue. They're not trained on live tissue. They're not trained. This is why I respect her so much. Listen to me now. This is that, this is at minute 43. If you don't listen to anything, tell everybody, go to minute 43. Their medical doctors are trained on dead tissue. I respected wellness when I learned that, that, that, that the thing that gave me relief was the live tissue being relieved. And that's that fascia tissue that lays next to the bone. It's so deep, your masseuse can't get down into that. You need to get down there in a non invasive way. And that this foam roller did it for me. And my life was transformed. My back pain went away, and for a long time time I traveled with a knobby foam roller with me. And now I don't have any back pain at all. I actually feel better now than I did when I was 25. But a lot of this is this wellness stuff that, these good habits that Shades was talking about. But even medical doctors, first of all, they're incentivized. Again, nothing. I'm not saying this is a racket or anything. I'm saying they were trained to cut a surgeon's train.

Shaytra Bryant (51:44)

They were very trained and very good in their specialty.

John O'Bryant (51:49)

Right?

Shaytra Bryant (51:49)

Yeah.

John O'Bryant (51:50)

That was a nicer way of saying what I said. I mean, her dad's a noted, legendary, even pharmacist. I mean, so, you know, it's natural for everything to be appealed because what do black people want to do? Well, not just anybody. I need. I'm in pain. Make this go away. If all you do is appeal, the pain will go away temporarily, but you've got to solve what's underneath that. Otherwise you get addicted maybe to the pill or the pills won't be enough or whatever, or the alcohol, whatever, that they're a pain reliever. So her dad fishes now and has found and plays golf. And that, you know, has made his energy come up in his. He's, you know, he, he feels better about himself. Has nothing to do with a medical situation per se, but it also.

Shaytra Bryant (52:36)

Air and nature.

John O'Bryant (52:37)

Air. Nature, Right.

Shaytra Bryant (52:39)

As medicinal.

John O'Bryant (52:40)

So do you agree. What? Do you disagree with what I said about the fact that all doctors. What? Well, doctors are trained, as you said, they have a specialty. If you're, if you're a surgeon, you're trained to cut. And so it's not their fault that that's what they're trained to do, but they can't get another Porsche or another House if they're not doing surgery. So they're, so they're, if you want the pain to go away, they're going to cut. But that doesn't mean that that's the only solution to your problem.

Shaytra Bryant (53:05)

There's definitely integrative care.

John O'Bryant (53:07)

Can you explain what integrative care is?

Shaytra Bryant (53:09)

If you, you know, if you have to take medication, that's the first solution. And we're happy that medicine does exist.

John O'Bryant (53:18)

Like blood pressure medicine?

Shaytra Bryant (53:19)

Yes, like blood pressure medicine. And then you integrate it. So you integrate it with a healthier lifestyle and you work and you work into a space where hopefully maybe you can get off the medication. And if you can't, then you won't have to add another pill on top of it. It'll keep you steady. So that's really the goal of like, you know, bio individuality and integrative care. Just finding your own pace of what's going to make your body work and function at its best capacity. So if you have to take the high blood pressure pill because your body just, you haven't figured out a way to totally come off the medication. But a lot of times you, you know, if you start one medicine and you continue it, you usually the second one gets added or the third one gets added, that's really what you want to prevent. And altogether being able to work your way, all the way off of it would be great. But if that doesn't happen, you just don't want to progress any further because it could lead to kidney failure or other things, other problems. So that's really what integrative care is about. I'm for both sides because I know that if I don't feel good, I definitely want the doctor who has the ultimate knowledge of what is happening in your body. And then you have the other side of holistic care, which is why did it, what caused it? And usually it took years for something to cause it. And so whatever, however long whatever you were doing that took, that added to the cause. It's going to take some time probably to work its way back out. So you have to give yourself time to, to let your system work it.

John O'Bryant (55:02)

Back out and be consistent.

Shaytra Bryant (55:03)

And be consistent. Yeah.

John O'Bryant (55:05)

Are there, on the, on the National Minority Health, National Minority Health association website, are there tips and tricks there? Are there tips for people? They go to the website, Are there tools where they're asking, is it. Is a website, a resource for people, a starting point for health and wellness?

Shaytra Bryant (55:25)

There's three there's three things that we mainly focus on. Lupus, diabetes and caretaking are and healthy living for all. So there's. Those are our four components of what we really are focused on right now. Of course we were focused on Covid vaccination.

John O'Bryant (55:49)

Right.

Shaytra Bryant (55:51)

But that doesn't give healthy tips. Where you'll find the healthy tips or through the diabetic diabetic portal and then you'll get some information for caregiving is very big in what we serve because we have to help caregivers take care of themselves while they're taking care of others and also have resources on where to go to find appropriate care resources.

John O'Bryant (56:18)

What's this new campaign that you started at Healthy Living. Healthy Living for all.

Shaytra Bryant (56:22)

What is Health is for everybody, right?

John O'Bryant (56:24)

What's that in short, Health is for everybody, you dummy. John Bryan What? What part of that didn't you understand? She's like hello, that was plain English. All right, so go to her website. By the way, she is a health and wellness advisor. No, no, you don't get it. No, no. After dissing me, you don't get to come back. No, that's over.

Shaytra Bryant (56:47)

No, no.

John O'Bryant (56:48)

So no, go to the website. Check that out. She also is a health and wellness advisor for Operation Hope. So you'll if you're in, if you like what you heard today, you want to hear more from her, let me know or let her know in the comments. Wherever you're we're checking this out and you know, send a note. She also has her own website which.

Shaytra Bryant (57:07)

Is Wellness360, 360 Wellness Collective.

John O'Bryant (57:09)

360 Wellness Collective and send her a note. And if you want to hear more from her, you want somebody to dive down into something specific, I'm sure she'd be happy to do a video something specific about it. As you can tell, she's much kinder, nicer and more patient than me.

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John O'Bryant (60:01)

Start thinking about some takeaways like you can give to people for the for a weekly family meeting they're going to have on health and wellness. Some of your you know some some some some some quick takes for a CEO who's on the run. What happens if you you're a single mother like a lot of mothers are. They're raising kids, they got a career and they're not feeling their best self. What are some things suggestions you have for them and you have any life hacks like cheat sheets? Some things that you do that that are quick things that you can give to people As a starting point. For instance, I never asked you this, but like how does your skin so great. Is it just drinking water? I mean what. Is there something you do for your skin or something you do for your hair? Is it something you do to keep the weight off? I mean, is there anything. There's something that triggers weight. Hello.

Shaytra Bryant (60:53)

Which one do you want?

John O'Bryant (60:53)

Me? I don't care. Any of the above is helpful to, to the audience. Well, ignore it or ignore those and go to something else.

Shaytra Bryant (61:01)

Water is everything. I mean you would be shocked at dehydration. And I know I always harp on it. And anyone who knows me knows I'm always harping on. Are you dehydrated? Hydration is everything. Most of us are dehydrated. And so my biggest, biggest thing is make sure you drink water. And that's the, and that's the most.

John O'Bryant (61:25)

It's cheapest too. It's cheapest, it's easiest. It's most sustainable. And then nature is. Nature's free.

Shaytra Bryant (61:31)

So walk and go outside, get some fresh air. I know that even if it's for 5 minutes, 5 to 10 minutes, just go outside and get some air. Do, do some deep breathing. You know, wouldn't even. You'd be surprised at. If you just take a deep breath, go outside, get some air, get some sunshine for five minutes, you'll feel so much better if say you're under pressure or something's going on. Just go outside for five seconds, walk.

John O'Bryant (62:03)

Around, walk around the house, walk around.

Shaytra Bryant (62:04)

The block for a minute and just breathe. You'd be shocked at how that calms the nervous system down. Those are my hacks. Those are my go to. Like every morning I start off with, you know, my prayer and then meditation. Yes prayers. I, you know, whatever. Yeah. So that's how I start my mornings. Those are, that's definitely a hack.

John O'Bryant (62:31)

That are hip hop music. So by the way, incredible career was. Did. Did the album covers when she. Back when she was in the fashion business and the music business. Did album covers for a bunch of big stars and this designed the Olympic uniforms for the Andrew Young Olympics in Atlanta in the 1996 Olympics for the Olympic NBA team. Designed the uniforms for them. I had a fashion house in New York in la. Just a lot of incredible stories that she has. So one of these times you'll. We'll get the chance to open her up. She's a little bit more shy than me, but you open her up. There's a lot in there rather than beautiful smiley face. Okay, you. So you give him A couple life hacks, by the way, last week, I was frustrated about something. I had to go outside and walk around the block. I mean, not around the house. It helped me just being outside, like, you know, folks will frustrate the heck out of you sometimes. You need to breathe it through, right? Because you don't left it out, you don't let it out. Then it's. It's. It's becoming toxic. Toxic inside of you.

Shaytra Bryant (63:36)

Put these down.

John O'Bryant (63:37)

Okay, There you go. Put that down.

Shaytra Bryant (63:38)

Put this down.

John O'Bryant (63:39)

We were in Singapore. Nobody. Nobody had their phone. Nobody. And they were not on the phone. They were not on the phone. They were not on a call. It was amazing. In all of Singapore, like, nobody was on their phone. It was unbelievable. Nobody was texting, social media. They were talking to each other. They were having conversations.

Shaytra Bryant (63:54)

Really, really hard to do because we're so attached to this and it does everything. I love. I love my phone. I love my phone.

John O'Bryant (64:00)

But she loves. She'd rather her phone than me.

Shaytra Bryant (64:02)

That's not true. Take it back.

John O'Bryant (64:04)

All right.

Shaytra Bryant (64:06)

Temporarily anyway.

John O'Bryant (64:08)

But you need a break.

Shaytra Bryant (64:08)

It's fun and laugh. Laughter. We have a lot of laughter. You can't take anything. Yeah. You can't take this so serious. But if you take some time, just turn your phone off, you know, for a half hour and just be present with yourself.

John O'Bryant (64:27)

Yeah. Look, I'm looking at her screenshot. Even this is peaceful. Look at this. She's sick. That's her. That's her. That's her in the middle of the ocean.

Shaytra Bryant (64:38)

Screenshot on your phone.

John O'Bryant (64:39)

Put a piece with something, right? Anything about your food. Like any. Any food hacks, shortcuts or things you do. Things you do or things you avoid.

Shaytra Bryant (64:50)

Sugar.

John O'Bryant (64:51)

Avoid Sugar, white sugar. She. I. I eat brown sugar. I use brown sugar. I can't find this cream. I do. Well, if you're gonna have sugar, maple sugar, brown sugar, sugar in the raw, I think are better alternatives.

Shaytra Bryant (65:07)

Yes.

John O'Bryant (65:08)

What else?

Shaytra Bryant (65:08)

Watch your sugar. Watch your processed food.

John O'Bryant (65:12)

Yes. What is it? What you want to explain what processed food?

Shaytra Bryant (65:16)

Like anything fried. Fried food, or like deli meats and things like that.

John O'Bryant (65:23)

Be careful of canned food. Are they processed?

Shaytra Bryant (65:26)

I think so.

John O'Bryant (65:28)

A lot of them. Not all of them, but a lot of them are. If something's been on a shelf or. I'm now gonna say something she may disagree with. If something's been. Like in Europe, when you go to Europe, you don't see a lot of obese people. They make the bread every day. They make the cheese every day. You eat it. They make it. You eat it in Africa. Frankly, the same thing. A lot of places. You don't see a lot of obese people. The food here is processed. It sits on the shelf. It has an expiration date. That's the definition of processed food.

Shaytra Bryant (65:59)

Process. Fried food was not.

John O'Bryant (66:01)

But not just fried food. That's. That's an easy example of it. You. I mean, I'm trying to think. I mean, all the. I mean, most of what we. Most of we get in the grocery store.

Shaytra Bryant (66:14)

How about. How about a hack, don't eat fried food.

John O'Bryant (66:18)

You see, she's really on this fried food. That is, you know, of course she's right. Right. And I don't eat a ton of fried food. I used to. I. I used to kill fries.

Shaytra Bryant (66:29)

Everything in moderation, depending on your system.

John O'Bryant (66:31)

Yeah, moderate. Because she loves a glass of wine.

Shaytra Bryant (66:34)

And yes, red wine's good for that.

John O'Bryant (66:37)

Lower. It lowers your blood. Blood. Blood pressure.

Shaytra Bryant (66:41)

Yeah, it's good for your blood. So they say. I don't know.

John O'Bryant (66:44)

It works for her.

Shaytra Bryant (66:45)

I'm a nutritionist. I'm not a. I'm not a doctor or a scientist. So find what works for you.

John O'Bryant (66:52)

So a note for me to black men. The danger of emotional shutdown in grind culture. That's going to stress you out and take you out. Like, I just, you know, it's okay if you don't like me. I like me. Right. There's not one else. Not one ounce of my self esteem depends on your acceptance of me. That's a Quincy Jones quote. Like, I. I just don't let stuff get to me. I walk through life consciously oblivious of most things around me because it just doesn't matter. And I'm like, I just shrugged my shoulders. You know, people don't, you know, argue with a fool. Proves there are two. Just let the stuff rock. Walk. Let the stuff go. Just roll down your back and walk. And walk away from a fight. Walk away from drama. Don't sit there and argue with a crazy person. Get your blood pressure up for what she said. A lot of disease is dis ease. Right. Just let the drama go. So, you know, want to urge couples and families to get real about health and have family meetings about this. You don't need a six pack. You need six hours of sleep. I try to get six hours of sleep a night as my magic number. Her number is a little bit longer than six hours, but she's got beauty to be concerned with. I don't go to the doctor like you go to the barber on a regular basis. If you love your family. Stay alive for them. Right? Okay. And.

Shaytra Bryant (68:09)

And keep each other healthy. Work together to keep each other healthy.

John O'Bryant (68:14)

Okay. Like what. Like what you like would, like, be accountability partner, like you were with me.

Shaytra Bryant (68:18)

Yeah.

John O'Bryant (68:19)

Yeah. And do it lovingly. I mean, so that people listen to you. It's like she. She. She knew I'm a dub. She calls me a double alpha, which is really bad. That's like intense on top of intense on top of intense. And she knew that, like, coming at me, you had to come at me a certain way, or I'm like, don't tell me what to do. Right. And she. She disarms me most of the time, and that gets me to do what she suggests and makes it. And ultimately, she has convinced me to make it my own decision, as you're hearing me talk about it now. So. Thank you for keeping me alive.

Shaytra Bryant (68:53)

Anytime. I'm not keeping you alive. You're doing it yourself.

John O'Bryant (68:57)

No, no, you. You did it. You did it. Thanks for being.

Shaytra Bryant (69:00)

We do good.

John O'Bryant (69:02)

We. We do. We do good. We're better. We're. 2 plus 2 here. Definitely equals 10.

Shaytra Bryant (69:06)

We do good.

John O'Bryant (69:06)

We.

Shaytra Bryant (69:07)

We hold each other accountable 100%.

John O'Bryant (69:09)

My worst day with her, I tell her, is better than my best day with anybody else. She. She's an extraordinary human being, and just what you see is what you good. You get. It's just full of. Full of love and authenticity, which gets you through. When somebody's real and they have no agenda and they're not trying to play you, they're not trying to extract from you, it allows you to relax and it forget and you can forgive. Almost anything with somebody's intention is pure. My brother, Rod McGrew would say, if you're madly in love, you're ready to submit to the it. The BS will entertain you. If you're not madly in love or you're not ready to submit to the it, the BS will drive you crazy. It's the same BS it depends how you look at it. Is the glass half full or is it half empty? Depends who's looking at the glass, which is why Shakespeare was talking about it. Disease is often dis. Ease your energy. Watch your energy. Watch who's around you. Watch your toxicity field. Health is wealth. I mean, it doesn't do you any good to make all this money and then you drop dead from a heart attack or hypertension or diabetes or whatever it is because you just. You did something. You didn't do something preventable, and now you. You can't even enjoy it. That Would that. Did I say that right?

Shaytra Bryant (70:27)

Yeah.

John O'Bryant (70:28)

Anything you want to say and wrap up. I mean, what's your drop the mic on the way out the door advice for people?

Shaytra Bryant (70:37)

Just try to take care of yourself. We always end up putting ourselves at the last on the list. And try to be mindful that it's okay to put yourself first when it comes to your health so that you'll be able to take care of everything else that you have going on.

John O'Bryant (70:58)

That part. This has been money and wealth on the Black Effect network. This is John Hope Bryant and this is my weekly pulpit of finance. And this was a special edition. I only bring special guests on when they're special and when they bring something that's truly transformational to the conversation. And I think you will agree this was and has been transformational. We have dealt directly with a lot of taboo topics and we've been straight about our own insecurities and our own failings and our own fears right there. You know, if you're not afraid when a tiger's coming at you at a million miles an hour, then something's wrong with you. So there's legitimate reason to be absolutely afraid. By the way, this has nothing to do with nothing. It's just funny. You know why black people are not in scary movies in horror movies? Because we're not convincing the Amityville Horror. It was an Amityville horror. It was the movie movie. Is it the only house about the house that was hunted house said get out. See if it was a black folks in the movie, it would have been over first sale sign the front lawn the first. That's why we get. We get killed off in the first scene in horror movies because we're just not convincing. You mess with a black person, be like, we got enough problems. You're trying to live. And you know, we drop. You might drop a black might drop a wallet in front of a police office. They kick it off all the way home. Like we had enough problems. So. So, you know, we ain't trying to be. To be scared out of our wits voluntarily and participate. If the house is talking, we're just selling the house. Right? We're not going to. Well, what's that noise? Right? So that has nothing to do with health and wealth. It is. I thought it was funny. Black people are really not convincing in horror movies which are not, generally speaking, while we're not in it. Unless it's a completely black horror movie, which a couple of them just come out and they're almost parody comedies. And then there's actually a couple that actually I think did work. But this is really just trying to get you to laugh. Like, take life seriously. Don't take yourself too seriously. Like just chill. Don't be, be full of pressure if that's what you want to, you know, get yourself focused on a goal. But don't, don't stress yourself out. There is no perfect and you will stress yourself out trying to be that way. It's just the best you can do. And you can do a lot. As you heard from Shadra. If you're a brother and you think you don't have enough time, think about how busy my life is every morning. Is it true when I get out in the morning, I do push ups to some sometimes hurt frustrations. We gotta go right? Push ups, sit ups, squats, breathing, stretching and whatever it is can wait. It can wait 10 minutes and it does. But don't let your health wait because it may be too late. This is John o' Brien. This is Sha Bryant. This is the eagle and the butterfly, the heart and the head. Even though she's all head too, in the sense that she's really smart. This is, you know, somebody may turn it to create a house, but somebody has got to turn into a home. So you need the whole picture. And let somebody love you. Let your family love you. Don't just be, don't just be a giver. Try to get good at receiving love too. I'm working on it myself. Vulnerability is not, it's not a weakness, it's a, it's a strength. But most people are not tough enough to be soft. That was my book. Love, Leadership and yeah, give financial literacy for all. Tell your friends to subscribe to this podcast and ask Shaytra some wellness questions so she can answer it in upcoming episodes. Do you want us to do this again, by the way? Or have you had enough of me and just want to hear her? All right, I'm out.

Shaytra Bryant (74:46)

Bye.

John O'Bryant (74:47)

Peace and Light, Money and Wealth with John o' Brien is a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network. For more podcasts from the Black Effect Podcast network, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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