Brian (2:22)

Every lender will recap just like most lenders won't rate, modify either. That advice seem somewhat disconnected from the reality I've lived in because we have now look, we have done commercial loans, sure, we're definitely. The amount of our down payment had a direct impact on how, what the mortgage rate that they were going to charge us. So that's why that, that whole thing seemed like getting busy doing nothing and not even getting a lot of fruit for all of your labor. What.

Bo (2:58)

What he's trying to like smooth out the wall, but there's still a hole there. And he goes to smooth it out and there's still a hole there.

Brian (3:08)

He creates another hole.

Bo (3:10)

I pay off my credit card and then I still have a balance and I pay off my credit card and I still have a balance and I pay off my credit card.

Brian (3:17)

I'm happy I have you here to translate so old Manville over here can actually get some, some understanding of what the heck that meant. That must be part of this whole meme culture that just has passed me by.

Wealth Strategist (3:27)

Buy low and sell high is a terrible investing strategy. What you need to do is buy low, borrow high and sell never. So what wealthy people like myself do is we buy assets at a low cost. Then we wait for those assets to appreciate. Once those assets appreciate, we borrow against the value of those assets because loans are not taxable. And then we use that money that we borrow to buy other assets. Then we use the cash flow from those other assets to pay off the loan that we just borrowed. And here's the thing, we never sell, we never sell our investments. Instead, we buy life insurance equaling up to the debt owed on our investment so that when we die, the tax free life insurance proceeds can pay off all the loans. And then our kids can receive our assets tax free and debt free. This is what the wealthy people do. And this is what you need to.

Bo (4:24)

Do for you and your so all right, he had me up until the life insurance part. Because it is true, you can do that. You can buy an asset, the asset can appreciate in value and borrow against that asset and then you can take that capital and go do something else with it. While that works, it only works if the assets are going up in value and it only works if you have enough cash flow to be able to satisfy the debt that you have on that asset. So what happens is the more you do this and the bigger that gets, the, the more fragile your debt, your house of cards becomes. I worry that people who try to just rinse and repeat and rinse and repeat and rinse, repeat, do this. It's all great until the tide comes out. But Brian, you know what happens when the tide goes out?

Brian (5:04)

You get caught swimming neck.

Bo (5:05)

You get caught swimming neck.

Brian (5:07)

Owning stuff is a very valuable thing because it protects you from inflation. It protects you from just a lot of things that are going on. But I will tell you on my own journey, we have created, even though we know we're using leverage as a tool, as a successful person, we've got a plan to what we're going to do to extinguish that debt within 10 years. Because I understand the risk that levered property has and as I get older, I want more risk to come out of my life. I'm not trying to take more and more chances. And that's where sometimes when these guys start talking about using leverage and then they start talking about using high commissioned life insurance. Look, there's no doubt wealthy people do use life insurance. But for the majority of people out there who are watching this content, your first stop on the train station of wealth building should not be levered products and whole life insurance. That's just, that's, that's fool's gold that somebody's trying to sell you something because they tell you that's what rich people do.

Car Buyer (6:08)

One thing that I realized over time is that big down payments are low key, not even worth it. I've had a few somewhat expensive cars and on each and every one of them, I put a significant down payment down. For example, on the Corvette that I bought, I put $26,000 down. Using hindsight, I probably would not do that again.

Brian (6:22)

100%.

Car Buyer (6:23)

You have to keep in mind, in a car deal, every .thousand is about $20 off of your monthly payment. Therefore, if you're buying an expensive car and you decide to put $10,000 down is really only lowering your payment 200 bucks. $20,000 down is lowering your payment 400 bucks.

Brian (6:35)

What about depreciation?

Car Buyer (6:35)

At that point, you have to keep in mind, would I rather have $20,000 in my bank account or would I rather be saving $400 on a monthly payment? Now, it took me a while to realize this. But now moving forward, I'm keeping that money in my bank account. There's so many things that you can do with that $20 to make you $400 a month. Therefore, it literally just doesn't make sense to give up that much liquid cash at one time. What I will say, though, if you plan on purchasing your next car with no money out of pocket, make sure you get gap insurance. No money down automatically equals negative equity. You have to think about it. Whatever car you buy, plus tax tags and fees, you're already way upside down.

Bo (7:06)

Or, or hear me out on this. If you have no car payment at all, think about what you can do with the cash flow then. Because what I really want to show this guy is if I could show him an amortization schedule and show him, hey, if you borrow 100% on that car and you finance it over 60 months or 72 months, let me show you what you are actually paying for that car. And it's going to blow your mind. And then you got to factor in the depreciation and all the other pieces that go into automobile ownership. I completely disagree. I think there's a better way to buy automobiles.

Brian (7:40)

Look what he was talking about with Corvettes and so forth, he should be paying 100% cash on those because those are use assets, those are consumption decisions. And I get the feeling that this is trying to fake it until you make it. Let me tell you, it's better to be rich than to look rich. And the other part that bothers me about this whole thing is what about Roth IRAs? What about loading up your employer 401k or even your solo 401k if you're that, you know, growing entrepreneur. I just don't like that this is all showy assets because cars are napalm for your financial life. There's a lot of wealthy people that will rent these bad decisions. They'll actually do leases and other things. But that is so far beyond. That's like steps eight and nine of the financial order of operations. Whereas when I see influencers doing this, they'd be much better served thinking Corolla than they would Land Cruiser. Don't drive around your wealth. Actually start building it on your net worth statement so your money can work harder than you can. So you can actually own your time that much sooner.

401k Analyst (8:44)

The 401k is not a retirement plan, at least not a very good one. But what about the company Max?

Brian (8:48)

Is he gonna sell life insurance?

401k Analyst (8:49)

Well, according to the center of Retirement research, for every $1 your employer offers you in a 401k match, they pay you 99 cents less than fair market value. You literally are paying for your own match in the form of lower compensation.

Brian (9:03)

False.

401k Analyst (9:04)

And that's not even the bad part. Adding the excessive fees, early access penalties, risk of the market and the pathetic 4% income rule, the 401k might not be your best option.

Brian (9:14)

Life insurance. Oh, I was waiting for it. I was waiting for it because he was about to go into a sales play.

Bo (9:19)

No, that's factually untrue. What we have found is that a lot of employers, the reason why they offer a matching program or profit sharing is because they want to create a really exciting environment. Environment that their employees want to be a part of. And employees that said, hey, I want really healthy compensation, I want generous Benefits, I want 401k matching, I want health. So employers recognize that that's what it's going to take to get top tier talent in. So I do not think that for every $1 you get an employer match, you're actually taking lower compensation. That's not been my experience with my clients at all.

Brian (9:54)

Well, the only thing I can think is, look, without a doubt because we're employers as well, we kind of, when we know we're going to go hire a new employee, we build in, the cost of compensation includes their 401k. So that's why it is a knuckleheaded decision. You are literally leaving free money on the table. That yes, is part of your calculated compensation. But that does not mean that mathematically you put a dollar in, you get another dollar back from your employer. That's 100% dollar for dollar guaranteed rate of return. If it's dollar, that's 50% guaranteed rate of return. There's just not many anything out on the marketplace that does that. And Bo's right, this was incentivized by the government structure. So you build retirement assets. Don't fall prey to somebody who's trying to sell you some product telling you how bad 401ks when there's a reason the government restricts how much you can contribute, who can contribute is because the getting is so good that they just don't let you go to the moon on this stuff. You actually have to stay within their parameters because they're giving you so many benefits.

Motivational Speaker (10:59)

Write this down right now. I am so happy and grateful.

Brian (11:01)

I don't have a pen now that.

Motivational Speaker (11:04)

I have multiple sources of income. I had an affirmation that I used for years. Still use it. I'm so happy and grateful now that money comes to me in increasing quantities through multiple sources on a continuous basis. If you write that out every day for the next 30, 60 days, you're going to become very, very aware of having multiple sources of income. And if you keep doing that, ultimately you're going to attract your money.

Brian (11:28)

I don't. I don't like mantras. I don't like. I feel like it makes an idol out of the money to. To some degree. It's just, you know, the root of evil in a lot of ways is tied to focusing on money in the wrong way. And I just. I don't know. I don't. It might be my own personal opinion, but I just don't like these mantras and these other magical. In incant incantations that, that people throw out there that if you do this magically, stuff's going to show up.

Bo (11:53)

It's a little undermined, though. There's nothing wrong with having multiple sources of. There's nothing wrong with going out there and trying to better your financial circumstance. But it actually requires work. You actually have to do something to be able to create those sort of opportunities for yourself. It's not writing something down 90 times and all of a sudden it just magically starts showing up. Building wealth is incredibly simple, but it's not easy. It does require something. It requires one of the three ingredients to wealth creation. The very first one, which is D. Discipline. If you don't have discipline to live off a little bit less than you make today so that you can build it up for tomorrow, you're going to have a very difficult time ever building wealth. But it's going to take some work on your part.

Brian (12:43)

Spend more. Oh, oh, I was born on one of those days. Wait a minute. I'm so confused.

Bo (12:53)

Yep.

Brian (13:00)

BO you don't have to spend more money. I know your birthday. I get to spend more money. You don't.

Bo (13:06)

You should spend more money because if you don't spend money, it's gonna block your save. No, that's not quite my tempo.

Car Buyer (13:14)

It's all good. No worries. Here we go.

Bo (13:18)

If you want to have more money in the future, you should spend less money today. You should defer a little bit of the money you have today for the future. That's how you build wealth.

Brian (13:31)

Look, it ties back to, I don't think, the day, date of your birth, whether it's 28, third, whatever it is. That doesn't. That doesn't tie into your success. I don't get that. That's. I'M just gonna, I'm gonna plead, old man.

Bo (13:48)

Yeah.

Package Flipper (13:49)

If I had to start over again today with $0 in my bank account, I get in my truck, I drive around my neighborhood and I look for packages that were left on other people's doorsteps.

Brian (13:58)

Hello, Marco.

Package Flipper (13:58)

I'd get those packages so no one else steals. If they don't collect it within 14 days, by law, I'm able to flip whatever's in there on ebay.

Brian (14:06)

So what happens if you're going to protect the package and someone's walking out of the house and they're getting the package?

Package Flipper (14:13)

I'll just say, hey, it's over at my place.

Mortgage Expert (14:14)

But I'm right there in front of you.

Package Flipper (14:16)

Yeah, I'm walking on. Hey, it'll be over at my place when you need it.

Brian (14:19)

Well, what if they were just like, I'll just take it now.

Package Flipper (14:21)

I already have it. Possession 2, 10 of law, baby.

Brian (14:23)

This is like redneck protection plan, you know, because you all the movie plots where, you know, you have an action hero who does revenge, there's always like some mobster or something that's coming and shaking down the organization. This is just the redneck version of that. I don't even know who that guy is. We've covered his content like three or four times. Ought to figure out who this Randy Savage of personal finance is. And I just don't know who it is yet.

Bo (14:44)

When it comes to building wealth, there are not shortcuts. And you don't have to take advantage of someone else or take something from someone else in order for you to have financial success. So anybody who has a system or an idea and a structure where you have to undermine and take advantage of someone else is likely not going to be the best path for you to build your long term wealth.

Brian (15:10)

Now all I can think about is Jean Claude Van Damme or Steven Seagal fighting this redneck off the front porch. So thank you for that imprint into my brain. But guys, we love creating this type of content and this reacting to the zany, goofy world of what people are putting out there. If you want to know the real way or the clear way, we're always trying to show you there's a better way to do money. And that's@moneyguy.com I'm your host, Brian Mr. Bo Money Got Team out.