43:I[185,["/_next/static/chunks/0sxns9k8ywops.js","/_next/static/chunks/1z5eijs5qdv02.js","/_next/static/chunks/2eylv_sshoiot.js","/_next/static/chunks/3owl5o1y-37u7.js","/_next/static/chunks/0agcep-t686m_.js","/_next/static/chunks/09e73exje0qtu.js","/_next/static/chunks/1nsk8jrr9fqe6.js"],"SendEmailButton"] 45:I[63625,["/_next/static/chunks/0sxns9k8ywops.js","/_next/static/chunks/1z5eijs5qdv02.js","/_next/static/chunks/2eylv_sshoiot.js","/_next/static/chunks/3owl5o1y-37u7.js","/_next/static/chunks/0agcep-t686m_.js","/_next/static/chunks/09e73exje0qtu.js","/_next/static/chunks/1nsk8jrr9fqe6.js"],"AddToLibraryButton"] 46:I[29721,["/_next/static/chunks/0sxns9k8ywops.js","/_next/static/chunks/1z5eijs5qdv02.js","/_next/static/chunks/2eylv_sshoiot.js","/_next/static/chunks/3owl5o1y-37u7.js","/_next/static/chunks/0agcep-t686m_.js","/_next/static/chunks/09e73exje0qtu.js","/_next/static/chunks/1nsk8jrr9fqe6.js"],"ShareButton"] 47:I[58016,["/_next/static/chunks/0sxns9k8ywops.js","/_next/static/chunks/1z5eijs5qdv02.js","/_next/static/chunks/2eylv_sshoiot.js","/_next/static/chunks/3owl5o1y-37u7.js","/_next/static/chunks/0agcep-t686m_.js","/_next/static/chunks/09e73exje0qtu.js","/_next/static/chunks/1nsk8jrr9fqe6.js"],"ProcessEpisodeButton"] 48:I[45269,["/_next/static/chunks/0sxns9k8ywops.js","/_next/static/chunks/1z5eijs5qdv02.js","/_next/static/chunks/2eylv_sshoiot.js","/_next/static/chunks/3owl5o1y-37u7.js","/_next/static/chunks/0agcep-t686m_.js","/_next/static/chunks/09e73exje0qtu.js","/_next/static/chunks/1nsk8jrr9fqe6.js"],"SignupCTA"] 3b:["$","time",null,{"dateTime":"2026-03-04T04:00:00.000Z","children":"March 4, 2026"}] 3c:["$","span",null,{"aria-hidden":true,"children":"·"}] 3d:["$","span",null,{"children":"00:44:04"}] 44:T553,

Improving the relationship between money and mental health is one of Clare Francis 's missions in her work at both Barclays and the Money and Mental Health Policy Institute.

It is also a personal story – Clare lost her husband to suicide in 2011. Ever since, she has been driven to improve how we deal with our mental health when it relates to money.

Clare, savings and investments director at Barclays, spoke to Kalpana Fitzpatrick about money and mental health, why Brits should start investing, and how to build long-term financial resilience.

Alongside her role at Barclays, Clare is a trustee of the Money and Mental Health Policy Institute, a charity whose mission is to help people with mental health problems protect themselves from financial difficulties and get out of debt.

This episode contains mentions of suicide. If you or someone you know needs support with their mental health, you can contact the Samaritans.

You can call them for free on 116 123, email them at jo@samaritans.org, or visit samaritans.org to find your nearest branch.