S20 Ep15: Terror South of the Border: Tales from Mexico (Sn. 20 Ep. 15)

Summary

Monsters Among Us – S20 Ep15: Terror South of the Border: Tales from Mexico

Host: Derek Hayes
Date: December 2, 2025
Episode Theme:
This episode collects a chilling set of firsthand paranormal accounts originating from Mexico. Across themes of ghosts, eerie cryptids, urban legends, UFOs, and unexplained phenomena, listeners share the stories their families and friends have carried for generations. Host Derek Hayes weaves listener calls together with context and folklore, giving a special focus to infamous Mexican legends like La Llorona, the Lechuza, Chupacabra, and mysterious lights in isolated landscapes.

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1. Episode Overview

Derek welcomes listeners back after the holiday, promising a curated selection of calls that all center on eerie happenings south of the US border. With a blend of nostalgia and deep respect for Mexico’s layered folklore, he sets the stage for a spooky journey through firsthand encounters—emphasizing Mexico’s rich tradition of supernatural storytelling.

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2. Key Stories & Discussion Points

I. Summoning the Rain & Encountering a Witch (Patty, Ohio)

[03:55 – 08:53]

• The Story: Patty recalls visiting family in Durango, Mexico during a drought. She and her sister nostalgically perform a rain-summoning chant from “The Secret Garden,” playfully tweaking it to ask for rain.
• Shared Nightmare: Both sisters nap afterward and each dreams of an old witch trying to harm the sister—remarkably, both have nearly identical, simultaneous nightmares. They awake deeply shaken.
• Aftermath: Days later, heavy rain begins, lasting for the rest of their visit.
• Reflection: Patty wonders if their joint belief lent power to the chant, or if they perhaps attracted something unintended.
• Quote:
  “We both saw the same thing. It was really trippy…” – Patty (07:42)
• Derek’s Take: Considers the possibility of belief itself being a powerful force or speculates that they encountered something darker.

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II. The Disembodied Voice – A Ghost in Chihuahua (Luis, New Mexico)

[09:44 – 12:05]

• The Story: On vacation in Nonuva, Chihuahua, Luis hears his name called clearly while unloading a car. No one present admits to calling him.
• Local Lore: A neighbor tells him a “lady” is often seen in that area at night—believed to be a ghost.
• Haunted Activity: Residents report sightings of the apparition, strange noises, and poltergeist phenomena.
• Quote:
  “I had a ghost call my name. And that was kind of freaky.” – Luis (11:27)
• Derek’s Take: Reinforces that Mexico is rife with ghost stories, and this one is especially classic.

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III. Mysterious Lights in the Hills – Family UFOs (Joelle, via Dad’s story)

[15:56 – 22:32]

• The Story: Joelle recounts their dad’s childhood memories in Chihuahua village, where locals often watch mysterious, yellow “flare” lights in the hills at night. The village treats them as a matter of fact.
• Investigation: Joelle’s father and uncles try to track down the source; the lights always stay just out of reach, seemingly “playing” with them. Despite their efforts, the lights remain unexplained.
• Memorable Moment:
  “Everywhere that they went, the flash was in the other direction. It’s like the flash was playing with them.” – Joelle (17:54)
• Scare: A tension-breaking moment when Joelle’s father, in the darkness, hears heavy breathing—only to discover it’s a sleeping horse.
• Derek’s Take: Compares the event to the Marfa Lights of Texas; admires Joelle’s family’s hands-on curiosity.

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IV. Strange Lights in Anza-Borrego – A Borrego Triangle Sighting (Karen, Baja Peninsula)

[24:31 – 26:30]

• The Story: In 2008, while camping in the Anza Borrego area, Karen witnesses a brilliant light overhead split into multiple smaller lights that “zip and zap” around at high speed, then regroup.
• Context: This was before commonplace drones. Karen later finds online reports and videos of similar phenomena.
• Quote:
  “It turned into, like, 20 little lights, started zipping and zapping every which way…” – Karen (25:28)
• Derek’s Take: Places this sighting within the infamous Borrego Triangle, an area known for high strangeness.

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V. La Llorona – Legend Encounters from Illinois & Parts Unknown (Omar & Phil)

Omar’s Bedroom Visit (Chicago)

[30:10 – 32:17]

• The Story: Omar has a vivid dream in Mexico of a woman in white asking, “Do you know where my daughter is?” He awakes to see a translucent woman in a white gown standing beside his bed. When the light turns on, she vanishes.
• Quote:
  “I woke up, this lady's standing there. She's see-through, she's wearing a white nightgown. … I clearly saw her standing there.” – Omar (31:20)
• Derek’s Take: Questions whether La Llorona appears in bedrooms or if this is a ghostly variant.

Phil’s River Encounter (Parts Unknown)

[33:23 – 38:22]

• The Story: As a child, Phil and his siblings see a glowing white fog drift toward the nearby river, then a weeping woman in white appears near their window, crying softly before retreating to the river.
• Family Legend: An aunt explains the story of La Llorona, with localized variations in detail.
• Quote:
  “I see this lady standing in front of the house, just looking.” – Phil (35:35)

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VI. Other Mexican Folklore & Cryptids (Host Commentary)

[38:22 – 40:53]

• Derek gives a whirlwind tour of legendary Mexican cryptids:
  • Chupacabra: Goat-sucker, generally described as a hairless canine.
  • El Chaneque/Alux: Small, mischievous sprite-like beings, similar to the Duende.
  • Cizimite/Alcizomite: Regional “Bigfoot” analogs.
  • Lechuza: The owl witch—a woman transformed into a giant owl, feared for her shriek and associations with vengeance.

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VII. Burnt Skin Entity – A Family's Eerie Sighting (Noelia, San Diego)

[40:53 – 42:33]

• The Story: Recounting her mother’s youth in Degollado, Mexico, Noelia describes a strange “burnt skin” creature climbing a tree, making crackling, horrifying noises. Elders claim this is not an isolated sighting.
• Quote:
  “She said there was this thing climbing up the tree that was in the shape of… burnt skin... making a horrific sound, like crackling and crushing.” – Noelia (41:10)
• Derek’s Take: Reminds him of campfire stories about disfigured animals taking on monstrous qualities.

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VIII. Bones Beneath the House – A Haunting & a Tragedy (Alma, Houston)

[46:19 – 50:52]

• The Story: Alma shares several generations of unsettling experiences in their family’s Mexican home: shadowy presences, children’s aversion to the property, and a murder occurring on the site.
• Discovery: Bones found during a renovation are quietly reburied; the family later plans for a proper investigation and burial, suspecting a connection with ongoing supernatural occurrences.
• Quote:
  “They found bones there. … When they dug them up, they just buried them back again.” – Alma (47:33)
• Derek’s Take: Details legal and ethical steps for handling such finds, urging proper burial and calling authorities.

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IX. The Haunted Doll – Lightning and Moving Objects (JW, Alabama)

[54:00 – 56:22]

• The Story: As a child visiting Monterrey, JW bought a wooden marionette. That evening, the hotel experiences a blackout accompanied by a bright, inexplicable lightning-flash. When the lights return, the doll has moved to the center of the room.
• Quote:
  “When my dad… turned the bathroom light on, my doll… had moved to the center of the room. … One of the freakiest things that’s ever happened in my life.” – JW (54:48)
• Derek’s Take: Notes that haunted doll stories are a worldwide phenomenon, drawing a parallel to similar accounts (e.g., Robert, Annabelle).

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X. Shadow Man and The Witch’s Owls – Village Terror (Joe, Texas)

[59:25 – 71:27]

• The Story: Joe describes summers in a remote Mexican village plagued by a shadow man who appears around outhouses, windows, and the cornfields. Peculiarly, a village witch pays children for owl legs (used in her rituals), leading to nighttime “hunting.”
• Climax: While pursuing owls, Joe and friends are bombarded by falling clods of earth and encounter a squatting, white-eyed shadow figure. They flee in terror as the entity chases them with a supernatural gait. Despite search parties and shots fired, it’s never caught.
• Aftermath: The shadow man continues to appear in the village for years, especially linked to owl-related superstitions and the local witch’s activities.
• Quote:
  “It looks like a human, but there’s no – no, it’s like a shadow. But we can definitely see the eyes.” – Joe (01:04:24)
• Derek’s Take: Suggests a possible connection to Lechuza folklore and questions the morality of sourcing ritual ingredients this way.

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3. Quotes & Notable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 07:42 | Patty | “We both saw the same thing. It was really trippy…” | | 11:27 | Luis | “I had a ghost call my name. And that was kind of freaky.” | | 17:54 | Joelle | “Everywhere that they went, the flash was in the other direction…it’s like the flash was playing with them.” | | 25:28 | Karen | “It turned into, like, 20 little lights, started zipping and zapping every which way…” | | 31:20 | Omar | “I woke up, this lady's standing there. She's see-through, she's wearing a white nightgown. … I clearly saw her standing there.” | | 35:35 | Phil | “I see this lady standing in front of the house, just looking.” | | 41:10 | Noelia | “She said there was this thing climbing up the tree that was in the shape of… burnt skin... making a horrific sound, like crackling and crushing.” | | 47:33 | Alma | “They found bones there. … When they dug them up, they just buried them back again.” | | 54:48 | JW | “When my dad… turned the bathroom light on, my doll… had moved to the center of the room. … One of the freakiest things that’s ever happened in my life.” | | 01:04:24 | Joe | “It looks like a human, but there’s no – no, it’s like a shadow. But we can definitely see the eyes.” |

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4. Timestamps of Important Segments

• [03:55] – Summoning Rain and Witchy Dreams – Patty
• [09:44] – Ghostly Voice in Chihuahua – Luis
• [15:56] – Mystery Lights in Hills – Joelle
• [24:31] – Borrego Triangle Lights – Karen
• [30:10] – Bedroom Llorona – Omar
• [33:23] – River Llorona – Phil
• [38:22] – Host Discussion: Mexican Legends
• [40:53] – Burnt Skin Creature – Noelia
• [46:19] – Bones and Haunting – Alma
• [54:00] – Haunted Doll Incident – JW
• [59:25] – Shadow Man & Village Witch – Joe

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5. Tone & Atmosphere

Derek Hayes keeps the tone warm and welcoming, honoring both the spooky fun and genuine fear in these tales. He provides additional context about Mexican folklore, adds personal anecdotes, and sometimes injects gentle humor. Throughout, there’s a sense of nostalgia and respect for cultural traditions—balancing chills with compassion.

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6. Final Thoughts

Derek wraps up by noting the depth of history and folklore in Mexico, emphasizing the importance of respecting these experiences. He highlights procedural advice regarding skeleton discoveries, reassures listeners about legal and cultural protocols, and thanks all contributors—inviting more stories for future episodes.

Closing Quote:
“You keep it spooky and have a good night.” – Derek Hayes (73:41)

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Heard The Episode

This is a genuinely atmospheric journey into Mexico’s supernatural—brimming with firsthand accounts of ghosts, cryptids, shared nightmares, and legends that blur the line between folklore and lived experience. The episode showcases why Mexico is considered a hotspot for paranormal encounters and why its stories have captivated imaginations for generations.

Transcript

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What do you think makes the perfect snack?

[Derek Hayes]

Hmm, it's gotta be when I'm really craving it and it's convenient.

Could you be more specific?

When it's cravinient. Okay, like a freshly baked cookie made with real butter, available right down the street at a.m. p.m. Or a savory breakfast sandwich I can grab in just a second at a.m. pM.

I'm seeing a pattern here.

Well yeah, we're talking about what I crave, which is anything from AM pm. What more could you want? Stop by AM PM where the snacks and drinks are perfectly craveable and convenient. That's cravenience ampm. Too much good stuff. Good evening and welcome to Monsters Among Us. I'm your guide, Derek Hayes. It's a real pleasure to be back with you here in the studio and I hope you all had an amazing Thanksgiving holiday filled with turkey, gravy, mashed potatoes, appreciation, and of course some football. I had a great holiday myself. I was solely in charge of Thanksgiving dinner and the reviews are in. Apparently I nailed it. But we're back and we're ready to tackle the last couple of weeks of what we around here call spooky season. And tonight I have a real treat for you. Tonight's collection of calls all stem from the same place. Not a location here in the States per se, but a very close neighbor with all kinds of scary monsters, ghosts and folklore. So without further ado we present to you our collection of stories from south of the border. Tonight's calls all stem from the land of the sun and the land of the Aztecs and our next door neighbors to the south. Folks, I present to you Tales from Mexico. And we begin this episode with a call from Patty in the state of Ohio.

[Patty / Karen]

Hi, this is Patty from Toledo, Ohio. I was actually just listening to the show, season 8, episode 11, and you mentioned the forest fires and if someone could summon some rain. And it reminded me of something that happened to me and my sister some years ago. It's probably been at least 10 years, if not more. We were in Mexico visiting family in the state of Durango. And at the time they had been going through a drought. I think had been like a year, maybe over a year. And growing up, we would always drive down there and stay a while. And it seems like every time we went, we would bring the rain with us. It would be a drought, you know, we'd get there and within a couple days of us arriving, it would rain for a week or something. And like, we always just brought the rain. On this occasion, you know, there was a drought and me and my sister were like, well, there's no rain to bring because here, back home at the time, actually it had been fairly dry.

[Derek Hayes]

So we were, I guess, just being.

[Patty / Karen]

Silly and remembered a. I guess a chant that was in a movie, the Secret garden in the 90s. In the movie, this little boy is trying to summon his father. He's away and he wants his father to return home. So these kids go out on this beach or whatever and say some little chant and his dad ends up coming home. Anyways, this little chant, for whatever reason, kind of always stuck with us. We watched that movie a lot, but we remembered and we were like, oh, let's try it. We just changed, you know, a couple of words. Instead of, you know, it being the dad, you know, we make it the rain. And we did this. We're walking down some little street. I think we were walking like one of my aunt's houses or something. And we're just doing this chance and that was that. Later that day, or maybe even the next day, my sister and I decided to go take a nap. So we went to lay down and we were sharing a bedroom, and there was two beds next to each other with a little nightstand in between. And we take our nap. And I've always had these weird experiences growing up. But I was sleeping and my sister woke me up because I was crying in my sleep and I had Been dreaming, I guess that there was some old woman that I somehow knew really wasn't an old woman, but it looked like an old woman was trying to hurt my sister. We were somewhere and I just see this old witch lady, whatever, trying to attack my sister. And I'm trying to help her and I can't. And that's what makes me start crying in the dream. And my sister hears me and she wakes me up and I'm like, I'm so glad that was just a dream. I'm so glad you're okay. And, you know, since I was crying, she knows that I've always had these weird dreams. Growing up, she asked me what it was and I told her that, you know, some old woman was trying to hurt her. And she just got really wide eyed and said that she had just been having a nightmare about some old witch who was standing over the bed trying to hurt her. I've never experienced anything like that, where someone sees what I saw, what I dreamt, whatever you want to call it. I've often wondered if maybe they're out of body experiences. And I don't know it. I don't know how to control it. I don't know how to. It just happens. So it really weirded me out, you.

[Luis / Joelle / Omar / Phil / JW / Joe / Alma]

Know, both of us.

[Patty / Karen]

It weirded us both out that we both saw the same thing. It was really trippy. Within a couple of days of this experience that we had, it started raining and it actually rained the rest of the time that we were there. I mean, it was just a movie.

[Luis / Joelle / Omar / Phil / JW / Joe / Alma]

Sure.

[Patty / Karen]

It wasn't a real chance, but I guess when you believe in something or if you give it enough belief, maybe that gives it power.

[Luis / Joelle / Omar / Phil / JW / Joe / Alma]

I don't know.

[Patty / Karen]

I was raised Catholic. I don't practice it. I consider myself to be more spiritual than religious, whatever that means. But I do believe in like the power of prayer. Because essentially prayers are like chance. Maybe we did that. I don't know. Maybe we tapped into something that we weren't supposed to. Then this witch showed up. I don't know.

[Luis / Joelle / Omar / Phil / JW / Joe / Alma]

It was trippy.

[Patty / Karen]

It was a weird experience. Did we summon the rain? Did we really summon rain? I said, shit, I don't know. It was weird. Anyways, that's my story and thanks for your time.

[Derek Hayes]

Thank you, Patty. The power of belief. I wonder. Or perhaps the power of a witch. Whatever it was, I'll remember this call come next September when our local fire season hits its fever pitch. Maybe Patty can do a little chant for us folks living up here in this Tinder box. Well, it's awesome stuff, Patty. And we thank you again for taking the time to call. Now folks, with the 10th largest population in the world, in a history that goes back at least 10,000 years, Mexico is the perfect place to produce a ghost. And here to support that claim is Luis. Please welcome him to the program.

[Luis / Joelle / Omar / Phil / JW / Joe / Alma]

Hey, Derek, my name is Luis. I'm calling in from Farmington, New Mexico. Just want to tell you a story about what happened to me last summer. We were on vacation in Cancun. Flew from Cancun to our friends of ours hometown. It's called Nonuva, Chihuahua, Mexico. So it's an old little town, been around for a long time. So what happened to me was we pulled up to our friends at the aunt's house, which is old house, you know, and we unloaded everything. They sent us to go get drinks. It was broad daylight. We went to the store, got drinks, whatever. We came back, we pulled over, whatever. We were getting stuff out. I was in the passenger seat. I got out and I was starting to get the drinks out and I heard somebody call my name. They were like, hey, wait. And I thought it was my friend that was driving. I thought he was the one calling me. Well, I thought it was weird, right? So I grabbed the drink and then he walks around, gets out of the driver's seat and I'm like, hey, dude, like, did you call my name? And he just looks at me like, no, I'm. Are you sure? He's like, yeah. Why? I was like, because I just heard somebody call my name. Okay, whatever. We walked inside. So, you know, I just kind of just sitting there thinking about it. I told his mother in law the hey, the weirdest thing just happened to me. She's like, what happened? I just heard somebody call my name, like outside. And she's like, go, show me where. So I went and showed her where it happened and she just like got kind of like, hey. She's like, they said that there's a lady that is seen walking through here at night. Like a ghost lady, you know. And I'm like, for real? She's like, yeah, that's crazy. So I had a ghost call my name. And that was kind of freaky. One side of that house is, you know, I guess haunted because they hear things. They see that lady walking through the side of the window. You know, they hear stuff moving around at night. So kind of creepy. Thought it was a cool story. I would like to share, but. Thanks, man.

[Derek Hayes]

Thank you, Luis. Now, typically, this is where I would list the most haunted places in Mexico. But frankly, I don't think any of you want to sit here and listen to me butcher a bunch of Spanish names. So instead I'll just link to that list and I'll tell you that Mexico is packed to the gills with stories of ghosts, spirits and poltergeists. So for Luis to hear a disembodied someone call his name there, that probably shouldn't surprise anyone. Creepy stuff. Luis, we thank you again for making the call. Now folks, it's time for a quick break, but when I come back, more tales from down South. Don't go anywhere over the last many, many months. This episode is sponsored by Better Help. The holidays can be a joyful time filled with beloved traditions, but it's also important to take time for yourself and create your own traditions around self care. Taking time for therapy could be a new tradition you start this year because while the holiday season is merry and cheerful, it can also be stressful, exhausting and lonely for many, therapy has been there for me during the most difficult and stressful times of my life, and I really think the right therapist who you can speak to freely without judgment can make a huge difference in your life and Overall, well, being. BetterHelp therapists work according to a strict code of conduct and are fully licensed in the US A short questionnaire helps you get matched with a therapist that meets your needs and preferences. And if for some reason you're not vibing with your therapist, you can switch therapists at any time. With over 30,000 therapists, better help Help is one of the world's largest online therapy platforms and it works with an average rating of 4.9 out of 5 for a live session based on over 1.7 million client reviews this December. Start a new tradition by taking care of you. Our listeners get 10 off at betterhelp.com forward/MAU again, that's better. H E L p.com forward/better it met.

You like, you know, to check the weather first.

Now, wouldn't you know, Mexico is a bit of a UFO hotspot. Even as a kid, I took notice of just how many UFO reports came out of that country, especially Mexico City. Now, I'm going off of my aging memory here, but I remember the television show's sightings covering Mexican UFOs quite frequently back in the late 90s. And that coverage had an obvious influence on me for whatever reason. And Jaime Muson, a researcher, journalist and TV personality there in Mexico City, seemed to be the gateway to many of these sightings. Sightings that coincided with strange natural events like volcanoes erupting or a total solar eclipse. Now, if any of this rings any bells and you'd like to dig a little deeper on the subject, I tossed a few links up in the show notes for you to explore, you know, like I always do, including a link to at least one of those sightings packages. But anyway, on the topic of UFOs, we present our next submitter. Please welcome Joelle to tonight's program.

[Luis / Joelle / Omar / Phil / JW / Joe / Alma]

Hey, my name is Joel. This is just a story that I want to tell from my dad. My dad is from Chihuahua, Mexico, where my dad's from. He's from, like, a small village. Everybody knows everybody. And I'll tell you, I was probably, like 10 years old when this happened. So I'm 31 years old right now. So 2010ish. You know, that's probably around the time that we went to go visit my people over there. You know, the village was so small that my uncle, he actually gave me money to go buy him a pack of cigarettes, and I was able to get it because they know everybody. Just to give you an idea of everybody knows everybody, you know what I'm saying? There was, like, one church. There was a basketball court in the middle of the city. I don't think there's any clubs or anything. All the roads are dirt. This is like, pretty much everybody's family. If you're not from there, nobody knows who you are, you know, I'm saying. But if you're from there, everybody knows you are. So, like, it's kind of hard to really describe unless you've been there. What I'm trying to get at is there's that little village and then there's hills. Like, it's surrounded by hills. There's streams, waterfalls. My family's got a little ranch over there, and here's where things get weird. So at night, when you look into the hills, you'll see, like, a spark. The way that I can explain it is like a flare. It just flares and then it just disappears. And the flare color is yellow, not red. It's not pink, it's yellow. Like, it just flares, and then it just disappears. It's weird because nobody's up there in the mountains. My dad says that he asked people around the little village, and everybody can see it. Everybody can see it, but nobody knows what's up there. Two of my uncles and my dad went up there, and they went to the mountains because they thought it might just be like, you know, for some reason, the word oil is Coming up to my mind. So I think that they thought, like, okay, so somebody's like, doing something with oil. And I have no idea why that comes to my mind, but it does. And we went there to go visit my aunt at the same time, my dad and his brothers, they wanted to go see what this is about. We always see these lights every weekend. We always see these lights every night. Let's go over there and figure out what are these lights. So my dad went over there, and it was me and my brother and my cousin Alan. My Cousin Alon was 12 years old. I was 9 or 10, and my brother was 12 years old. And we stayed at my uncle's house with the walkie talkie. My dad and my two uncles, they went into the mountains to look for these lights with the walkie talkie. And so they had to be like two or three miles away. But all you can see, it looked like a video game a little bit, because you can see, like, the flashlight, you know, going left, going right. And then we're telling them, like, we can see the flash over here. Go that way, go to left, go to left. And they go to left, and then you can see the flash. Go to the right, go to the right, go to right. And it just seemed like everywhere that they went, the flash was in the other direction. It's like the flash was playing with them. And it's weird because it's like, what is this flash? And it was this flash that the whole village can see. But at the same time, nobody's talking about it. They're just in this small village. They just say, hey, it is what it is. And to me, it's crazy, but I still remember when me and my cousin and my brother were watching my dad and my two uncles go into the hills and try to find it. And we see the flash of lights, and we said, hey, it's right behind you. And nothing. They said, no, it's pitch black. They said they couldn't see nothing. To this day, it's just weird. My dad's been back over there to visit his sister plenty times. Sometimes him and his brother will go to the hills and go and try to figure it out. And my dad said, you know, all I had was my flashlight. And he said, I can't see nothing, but I'm trying to figure it out. So he turns his light off, thinking that, like, if it's a spirit or whatever, it's going to pop up and show itself. And my dad said he had his flashlight off and then he heard Heavy breathing, like. And my dad said, oh, my God, I think I found it. And he was scared. And my dad clicked his flashlight on. It was just a horse. A horse was sleeping, but he thought it was like a demon or something. And at the end of the day, he just turned his flashlight on, and it was just a horse standing right in front of him. But he was scared. Been a fan for probably two or three years. Like I said, caller from Bowling Green. Go Falcons. Yeah, man, keep doing what you do. Thank you, man.

[Derek Hayes]

Roll along, friend. And thank you for calling in. Now, I'm not gonna lie, this little plot of land sounds pretty awesome. And I think I need to find myself a piece of land similar to it. My own personal paradise, complete with the unusual lights that Joelle's family saw on the ridge. And, you know, I love the effort made here to find whatever was causing those lights. And the whole scenario reminds me a bit of the Marfa lights out of Texas. But what these strange lights were. Ball lightning, a piezoelectric charge release, or swamp gas, or maybe ghosts or even aliens, I cannot tell you. But I can tell you coming across a horse in a situation like that would leave you frozen in your boots, if only for that split second. So, awesome stuff, Joelle. We appreciate the phone call, and be sure to let us know if the mystery is ever solved. Now, folks, if you have a story you would like to share, give our hotline a call at 888-608-night. That's 888608, Nig HT. Or record your story as a voice memo and email it to me at Monsters Among Us [e-mail]. and don't forget about Monsters Among Us Junior. A new episode drops this Wednesday, and that number is 833-MAU-kids. Or you can send an email over to Monsters Among Us JR gmail dot com. No matter how you reach out, we can't wait to hear from you. And we can't wait to hear from this next caller either, calling in from Mexico. Please welcome Karen to the program.

[Patty / Karen]

Hey, there. My name is Karen.

[Derek Hayes]

I'm on the Baja Peninsula in lovely Mexico.

[Patty / Karen]

I'm from San Francisco area. Lived here three years. Best decision I ever made. Anyways, I remember you talking about the Anza Borrego Triangle.

[Derek Hayes]

So back in 2008, I went camping.

[Patty / Karen]

In that beautiful part of the world with my sister and her husband.

[Derek Hayes]

It was between Christmas and New Year's.

[Patty / Karen]

We were on the way to San Felipe in Mexico. You know, we had a campfire and just hanging Out. Nothing fancy.

[Derek Hayes]

I saw what I thought was a.

[Patty / Karen]

Plane, like one that's coming towards you.

[Derek Hayes]

Very, very bright light.

[Patty / Karen]

I know this has been reported by other people many times.

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It, like, turned into, like, 20 little lights, and they started zipping and zapping every which way. And then they go back to the.

[Patty / Karen]

Center and make that one big light.

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And then they.

[Patty / Karen]

They made a formation of, like, a line, and then they'd separate and go all different ways. But it was like, zip, zip, zip, zip, like, super fast.

[Derek Hayes]

This was like before drones.

[Patty / Karen]

And it was far enough away.

[Derek Hayes]

It was looking west.

[Patty / Karen]

It was my first time in that park.

[Derek Hayes]

So I thought it was maybe the Air Force Base San Diego or something like that, but I've never heard of technology like that. But I looked on the interwebs and.

[Patty / Karen]

Actually saw some videos of the same phenomena. I don't remember where. I think it was other locations. But then I heard your podcast about the Anza Borrego Triangle or something. Yeah, I don't know. It was just very peculiar.

[Derek Hayes]

Okay, be well. Bye.

Thank you, Karen. Incredible. And exactly the type of thing you can expect to see in the infamous Borrego Triangle. Admittedly, using this story is a bit of a cheat as it doesn't exactly take place in Mexico. But the call does come to us from south of the border. And that Borrego Triangle that I just mentioned ends on the US Mexico border in a place called Hakumba Hot Springs. So I think this is close enough to qualify here tonight. Now, as for the craft that Karen saw, like I said, that's par for the course in that unusual location. So if you're in SoCal and you're looking for a little escape, rent a place or a campsite in Borrego Springs or Julian or Anza. Anywhere in that direction, frankly, post up at night with some binoculars and a plane identifier app and go enjoy yourself. I promise you'll see something that'll leave you stumped. And from the sounds of things, I think Karen can promise that as well. Now, folks, in regards to UFOs in Mexico, a survey conducted in June of 2019 suggests that more than 58% of the people surveyed in Mexico claim to believe in the existence of extraterrestrial life. And in a similar survey also conducted In June of 2019, more than 76% of the people surveyed there in Mexico said they had never witnessed such an event, while almost 13 and a half percent affirmed that they have indeed witnessed a UFO. That info courtesy of a company called Stata Tista. Now, when I return we're going to explore a couple of Mexican folklore staples. But first, a quick ad break. Don't touch that dial. And I'm sure tonight you're gonna probably.

[Luis / Joelle / Omar / Phil / JW / Joe / Alma]

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Now, of course, we cannot have a collection of calls from Mexico and not mention the infamous la. So here to help us fill our quota is Omar, by way of the state of Illinois.

[Luis / Joelle / Omar / Phil / JW / Joe / Alma]

Hey, what's up, Gary? My name is Omar. I'm from Chicago, Illinois, and I want to tell you the time where I think I saw the Llorona. I was in Mexico. This happened around 2002, 2001, I believe, for me and my parents and my sister who went to a vacation in Mexico to visit one of my uncles. And this one night I had like this very intense dream where I was walking on a beach by myself and this lady came up to me and she aggressively just grabbed me and she grabbed me and she asked me, do you know where my daughter is? In Spanish. And I said, no. And when I said no, she let out like this very like intense scream. Like it was this in my face and it was so lifelike that I woke up from my dream. And when I woke up from my dream, there was clearly a lady standing right on the edge of the bed. So I woke up this lady standing there, she's see through, she's wearing a white nightgown. And I could see her hair, it was like covering her shoulders. Her head was tilted sideways. She had her mouth open, but I couldn't make out the features in her face. And I could clearly see her standing there. So I thought it was my mom. So I started going, mom, Mom. And my sister who was sleeping next to me, she woke up and she's like, who are you talking to? And I was like, there's somebody standing right there. And I don't know if my sister saw it too, but she was like, turn the light on. Turn the light on. And the light switch was like arm's distance away from me. So I got the courage and I got up and I turned the light on. And as soon as I turned the light on, the person that was standing there was gone. But I clearly remember her. I clearly saw somebody standing there. Like, she was wearing a white nightgown. I could see right through her. I could see her hair. I could see her head. I could see her mouth wide open. And yeah, I think it might have been the Llorona. Or it might have been just some lady trying to scare me. But yeah, that's my story. And thank you very much for your show. I love it. Keep it sweet. Thank you.

[Derek Hayes]

Thanks, Omar. Well, folks, what do you think? Leah, Rona, the weeping woman, the crying woman. It sort of sounds like that's what Omar experienced. But you know, there is one detail that makes me hesitate. The lack of a detail, perhaps. Now, I'm not an expert on the Lyrona legend, but isn't she supposed to haunt bodies of water and not bedrooms? Would that make the woman no more experience, just a regular old ghost? Or does La Llorona bend the rules from time to time? Well, if so, that certainly doesn't make this story any less scary. But I promised La Llorona and I aim to over deliver. So here with yet another experience, an experience that does take place along a body of water, please welcome Phil, out of parts unknown.

[Luis / Joelle / Omar / Phil / JW / Joe / Alma]

Hey, Derek, this is Phil. So I had to have been like about nine or ten by this time. My parents were already divorced. My mom moved us out to a country house right on the outskirts of town. It wasn't so far away from town. I used to walk into town. The town was kind of expanding at that time, so they had some new houses built up back to the left hand side of our house. And if you go right, should take you out into the country. So one day my mom said she was going out with some friends, left me in charge of the kids. One of her friends came over, left her kids there with us. Mind you, have to be better 9 or 10. Back then it wasn't too uncommon for the parents to leave their kids by themselves. You know, it wasn't the first time, but it was the first time in this new house. They take off, I have to say, about 7:30pm and it's me, my three brothers and two of our friends. So we're just, you know, sitting there watching Kimono, my brother's playing the PS2 in the room. And eventually about 9:30, everybody's pretty much asleep, me and one of the other boys that my mom's friend hitting homer was awake and we were watching tv. I recall music videos actually back on mtv. And I just get this uneasy feeling in my stomach. So you know, like you think you have to go to the bathroom but you don't. And something kept drawing me to my window. Mind you, in this house we had a big maybe 4 foot by 8 foot window, nothing in the middle, just one big panel of glass. I look out the window and from my house to the street it's about a football field length trees in between the middle of fields, plum trees actually. I remember seeing this white glowing field fog. Not sure what it was at first, kind of stuck on it, you know. And just walking along with the row, mind you, behind my house, about another football field. Back behind us is a river and I see this fog walking towards the river, kind of, you know what I mean, Catches my attention, I'm stuck on it. I wake up the boy that was next to me, cuz he had fallen asleep and he's looking, he says he doesn't see nothing. I look back, the white figure was gone, whatever it was. And I closed the window and I'm just like, what the heck was that? So as he goes to the bathroom, as he goes to the bathroom, I look back out the window, there's this lady standing in front of the house, I must say, about 100ft from my house, just looking at the house and I keep hearing this cry, like a whimper, like she's whining about something. And I close the window again and I'm just like, look back out and this time she's walking back away, back towards the river and I can still hear the crying. My friend comes back out and I'm like, look at this. And he looks, he goes, there's nothing there. I look back out behind him and there's nothing there. My mom came and I told her what it was, you know what I mean, what I saw and everything. And she kind of brushed it off. But I talked to my tia, my aunt and she explained to me that what I saw was a lady called the Llorona or the Crier, something like that. And the story is, I guess she was gonna get married to this guy, but in order for her to get married to this guy, she had to get rid of the children she had. I think it was two, if I'm not mistaken. And she took him to the edge of a cliff, sat him down, gave him ice cream, and I guess pushed him. She went back to go tell the guy what she had done, but she ended up coming back, and the guy was with another girl. She ran to that same cliff and I guess jumped off and killed herself. And I guess it says that she's on the road looking for her two kids. I don't know if it was her. Can't really explain what it was. But I do know I saw a lady, all white. The only thing that was really dark on her were, like, the outlines of her face. You could definitely see her face, but she had kind of like a veil on, but not covering her face, just like kind of draping down to the side. She was about the same size as my mom. I'm gonna say five, eight, around that height. She was an adult woman. And that's what I saw. And that one right there really left, like, a eerie feeling in my body. Never went outside my house again in the night, mind you, in the country, I mean, you hear a lot of stuff, coyotes and stuff, and as a kid, you get scared. But this right here was just something different. I had never seen something so defined, something so. So real, like, but yet white and misty. But that's what I saw. And, yeah, that was my experience with that one.

[Derek Hayes]

Thank you, Phil, for making the call. The story that I know about La Llorona has her drowning her children in a river. So maybe there are several variations to the La Llorona story. And if so, perhaps there is a version where she stands on the end of your bed. Perhaps our friend Omar is onto something. But regardless of the details, the legend of La Llorona is deeply rooted in and around Mexico. Just ask anyone that's claimed to have seen her. Thank you again, gentlemen, for taking the time to call in. Now, before we move on, like I said earlier, La Llorona is a Mexican staple, but she's not the country's only well known legend. There is also the El Chupacabra, translated to goat sucker, first reported in Mexico in the early 2000s. No, descriptions vary, but most describe a hairless, skinless dog with protuberances down its spine and bright blue eyes. Then there's the elush, a knee high trickster figure from Mayan folklore, believed to aid farmers in their crop harvests, but may turn malevolent if they feel they've been wronged. Mayan communities still leave offerings for these beings, very similar to but not identical to the gnome like duende, also found in the region. Or the alcizomite, commonly referred to as the Mexican Bigfoot. Although reports have emerged from Belize, Honduras, Nicaragua and Guatemala. Eyewitness accounts describe an unusually large, upright bipedal creature covered in dark fur, no thumbs, four backward facing toes, and it's purported to feast on berries and humans. Then there's the lechuza, the owl witch. Legends tell of a powerful sorceress who made a dark pact to transform into a giant owl. Revenge seeking or sent to torment evildoers. Donning white feathers and red eyes. Some say she carries her victims away in her beak, while others claim she drives victims mad with her piercing shriek. And then there's also whatever the hell this thing is. A Noelia story out of my state of California.

Hi everyone, my name is Noelia. I'm calling from San Diego, California. However, this story is not mine. It's my mother's from Degollado, Mexico. This happened to her when she was a pre teenage. She used to live in a little house pretty much in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of land in the back and there was this big tree. One day my mom was walking out of her house heading towards the tree when she spotted something that she describes as what looked like this is gonna sound crazy, but burnt skin. She says that if you've ever seen those like cow rugs that are like shaven down, that are like shaped, it's hard to explain, but if, you know, I think, you know, if you've ever seen them, they're just rugs with animal print on it. She said that there was this thing climbing up the tree that was in the shape of that and it looked like burnt skin. And apparently while it was climbing up the tree, it was making a horrific sound, like crackling and crushing. Like it was just like poppling. And she was sitting around one day with her aunts telling scary stories as you do in Mexico. And she had the courage to bring it up and her aunt said, oh yeah, we've seen that before. Like if it was normal. Yeah. Thank you. Bye.

Thank you, Noelia. My very first thought here is of a campfire story my cousin told me when I was probably 10 years old. He had just returned from camp or something and had a whole mess of stories, but one that really stuck with me was about a creature like this that terrorized campers on a remote island somewhere out west here. Witnesses claimed it was large, misshapen, and had what appeared to be burnt skin. Now, the hook of the story ended up being that a few years prior, a forest fire ripped through the area and in the process it burned up a young black bear. But against all odds, it survived. But maimed and disfigured by the fire, it was forced to hunt nature's easiest prey, humans. Now, for obvious reasons, that story came to my mind and I love it. Noelia so thank you for sharing your mother's story and for giving me hope that that campfire story just might be TR.

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Now. Like I said earlier, human history runs deep in Mexico. 10,000 years of advanced culture in that region means that there are many bones in the ground. And sometimes when you're digging, you come face to face with that history. Just ask Alma, and please welcome her back to the program.

Hello, Derek, this is Alma. I'm actually from Houston. And the reason I'm bringing it up is because I heard G's story on the June 16 episode, which is volume three, Shadow People Files. It's not exactly related to Shadow People, but the fact that he talks about his family uncovering bones on the property reminds me of a story that my mother told me a couple of years ago. In Mexico. My father owns a home that my grandmother, his mother lived in, and the home is actually neighboring two of his brother's home. He has two brothers that have property in Mexico as well. Her house was next to one of my uncle's homes. And the reason I bring this up is because a couple of my cousins grew up in that house. That neighbor, my grandmother's house, and they always talked about having weird experiences in the house that my grandmother lived in. My grandmother would even talk about seeing or sensing some kind of weird shadow. I guess it is a shadow person. She unfortunately passed away, so I can't really get a lot of information. But I do remember her bringing that up a couple of times. And then my cousins were to tell me that they never liked going to my grandmother's house at night because the lighting wasn't very good. And it was just my grandmother, she only slept in the bedroom. They never really used any of the other rooms because she would just go to my uncle's home to eat and hang out with the family. But they would talk about how they always got a weird sensation. And a couple of times they thought they would see some kind of dart shadowy thing in the corner of her bedroom. And my grandmother just kind of got used to it. Actually, she really didn't think it was that weird. She just thought it was odd. But my cousins refused to go to her home at night. And then about 10 years ago, they were expanding that home and they had to excavate around it and in, I think either the new Additional bedroom they were adding or the bathroom of that bedroom. The contractors found bones because they were excavating for the new foundation and they found bones there. They basically mentioned it, I think, to my uncle at some point, but no one really brought up. So they just. When they dug them up, they just buried them back again. And my mother found out a couple of years ago, so that that's what happened. At this point, they don't really want to dig up the bones anymore. So they're just staying under the foundation of that house. So I'm wondering if it was related to that uneasy feeling. My cousins would get along with seeing things in that home. And then a couple of years ago, since my parents don't really use that property for anything, they had my uncle take care of it. And one of the things they do is they rent it out. Well, when they rented that house out, one of the tenants they had at one point was a single mom. And no one really knew a lot about her. They just knew she was not from my parents hometown, she was from another town. And she had moved there because apparently she was escaping an abusive relationship and somebody murdered her in that house near the same vicinity of the area of where the bones were found. The weird part is people claim didn't hear anything because she was killed in the middle of the day. So I was wondering if this was maybe just bad luck the poor person was killed or that property just had some negative energy attached to it because of the bones that were found. But I just thought it was strange that all those things happened in one property. I do know that my parents will eventually have the house excavated again within the next year because they're going to actually find those bones and give that person a proper burial, whoever that is. It's really sad to think about all the negative things that happened in that home, but I just wanted to share the story. Thanks for what you do. You have a good day and thank you for listening to my story.

Thank you, Alma. Now, Alma's story got me thinking. What is the proper protocol should you accidentally dig up a human skeleton? Well, after some quick googling, I learned, thanks to the Florida Division of Historical Resources, that there are certain steps that you legally need to take. First off, stop working. Do not disturb the bones or the soil around them any further. Do not touch, avoid touching, moving or collecting any parts of the remains or associated artifacts. Take photos. If possible, take photos of the remains exactly as they were found, noting the date, time and time, exact location, and call the authorities. Contact the local police or the sheriff's department immediately. You should also contact the regional medical examiner or coroner, as they may have jurisdiction, depending on the age of the remains. And those instructions seem to be pretty similar for just about everywhere here in the United States, so I can only assume that it's probably similar down there in Mexico. So my advice to your parents, Alma, is to let local authorities know when they do begin that remodel. You never know. Doing so might help bring closure to a grieving family somewhere. Or those bones might be a missing link to a historical mystery that's existed for decades. When it comes to bodies buried beneath your home, I think you're gonna want all the good karma you can manage. Thank you as always, Alma, for sharing the entry. Now, folks, since the holidays are right around the corner, now is a great time to tell you that we have all your holiday shopping needs in our merchandise shop. Just visit monsters among us podcast.com and click the Shop tab to get your hands on the spookiest gifts out there, all designed by artists in the paranormal space. And I'm afraid I have a bit of bad news regarding the shop. I'm sorry to have to do this, but for now, we are forced to suspend international shipping, including shipping to Canada. Frankly, the tariffs are killing us. People aren't getting their packages. They're being forced to pay twice their value just to release them. It's been a mess that's cost us a good deal of money. So sadly, until things improve, we will no longer be offering any sort of international shipping. A bummer time of year for that to happen, but unfortunately, it's out of our hands. But for those of you in the States, visit monsters among us podcast.com and click the Shop tab to get all the goods. We sure do appreciate your patronage now, folks, this next entry is pretty damn freaky. Please welcome JW out of the state of Alabama.

[Luis / Joelle / Omar / Phil / JW / Joe / Alma]

Hey, Derek. This is JW calling from North Alabama. This happened around 1996. I was a kid at the time. Me, my family, and some family friends we had took a trip down to Monterrey, Mexico. There's street vendors, downtown marketplaces, and a lot of people that make, you know, things that are handmade where we were at. Again, I was a kid and I saw like a little handmade puppet, very similar to Pinocchio. You can move it with, you know, strings and things like that. And I really wanted it. We got it. Well, later that night when my family and I went back to our hotel, it was not late in the evening and out of the blue the lights went out in our hotel room and when the lights went out, there was something that looked like a literal lightning bolt flash. It just kind of appeared nearly in the middle of the room. I mean, as quick as lightning. It looked like lightning. It did not look like when a light bulb blows, you know, I'm 35 now. I can look back at that memory and look at, you know, when a light bulb blows today, and I'm like, yeah, that's not what I saw when I was little. And what's crazy is, you know, when my dad, he got up out of his bed and he went to turn the bathroom light on, my doll that my family had purchased for me, the Pinocchio like doll, it had moved to the center of the room. That was one of the freakiest things that has ever happened in my life. You know, I know there have been tales of haunted dolls all throughout, you know, the world. You got Robert the doll, you got Annabelle the doll. But whatever this was, you know, the power going out, the lightning bolt flash, and that doll apparently moving from my little nightstand dresser to the center of the room on its own. Like, I can't explain that, you know. Anyways, we all love your podcast, man. We love what you do. We appreciate giving us all platform. Stay easy.

[Derek Hayes]

Thank you, jw. You know, just this week I received a package in the mail and in that box was a small beaded doll of African origin and a short note saying that the doll was purchased in Africa and that the sender's children are downright terrified of it. So of course I gave the piece a good home here in my collection. And so far nothing weird has happened. But I'll certainly keep you posted. Thank you again, JW for sharing the call.

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I really didn't expect to see that. And folks, that takes us to the final call of this evening. Please join me in welcoming Joe out of Texas to the show.

[Luis / Joelle / Omar / Phil / JW / Joe / Alma]

So my name is Joe and I am from Texas. And in the summertime, I used to go to my grandma's house in a small village about an hour south of the border of Mexico. The town was. Was the big city. But if you traveled like maybe 15, 20 minutes outside of that bigger city, there's a small village named la. Close to when I started going over there in the summer, I would hear these stories about this shadow man that would show up at night because this village is out there surrounded by cornfield, so they didn't even have indoor bathrooms back then. And it was one time that when my mom's neighbor had to go to the restroom at an outhouse behind her house, she screamed really loud, everybody came running, and she said, she saw a shadow person staring at her while she was using the ouse out there. All the neighbors gathered up, went through the corn field, searched around. They couldn't find anybody. Then my cousins one time were asleep in their room. It felt like somebody was staring at them through the windows because they didn't have any AC units either. So they would sleep with the windows open. And my boss cousin screamed really loud. My uncle woke up, my aunt woke up and they said that there was a shadow person staring through the window. So my uncle ended up putting bars on the windows. And they actually bought an AC unit because they didn't want to sleep with the windows open anymore. And so this shadow person would appear on one side of the town, the other side of town, because all the whole town was surrounded by cornfield. And in the town there was a old lady that was the witch of the village. And she would pay us to bring her owl legs for her witchcraft. And so whenever we would find an owl, we would kill it by throwing either rocks or with slingshot. And they would die, and they were huge. And we would cut the legs off and we would send them to her, and she would use it for her witchcraft. And so one day, a bunch of friends of mine from the ages between 8, all the way up to 16, 17, we were playing a game of touch. In Spanish, it's called Conjelao. And across the street from where we were playing touch at, there was an abandoned ranch. We stare across the cornfield to that abandoned barn over there, and there's like at least three or four huge white owls flying around in circles. And we all point at them. Oh, look, there's some owls flying around over there. Let's go kill them and take the legs off to sell them to the witch of the village. So he suffering us, we start walking through the cornfield. At night it's pretty dark, but the moon is a full moon that day, so it's pretty bright. As we're walking towards the barn, we get pretty close to it. We're talking over there. We're walking, like in a group, but we're kind of like marching, like side by side. At least seven of us. As we get close to the barn, we start feeling a bunch of rocks falling from the sky. But they're not stone rocks, they're rocks of dirt, like mud rocks. So they started hitting us on the back and on the head. And they're breaking apart as they're falling down. A lot of them like it was raining rocks. And so we start like what the heck? Who's throwing rocks at us? Thinking there's somebody throwing rocks from the abandoned barn towards where we're at. So we start grabbing rocks, start throwing them back at this barn where these owls are flying over. And so he's throwing rocks, we're throwing box, we're throwing boxing. I'm at the very right side of this group. Like, we're in a line side by side. I'm on the very far right. The corn is 35, at least over our head for sure. And in the corner of my eye to the right side, I see, like, a black figure. Looks like the shape of a person, but squatting down on the corner very clearly. I see it. I can only see their eyes kind of bright white. And I'm looking at it, and I'm throwing rocks towards the barn. But I'm also kind of, like, looking at this thing on the corner of my eye. And I stop throwing rocks, and I look at it, and I start staring at it. And I'm like, who's that? I told my friend in Spanish, you know, I say, hey, guys, stop throwing rocks. Who's this person squatting down right next to us? And everybody stops throwing rocks. And when we stop throwing rocks and focus on this person or what we think is a person, the rocks stop falling. Like, nobody's throwing rocks in it anymore. We're looking at it, but we can't see, like, any shape. It looks like a human, but there's no, no, no. It's like a shadow. But we can definitely see the eyes. And me and my friends are like, hey, who are you? And we're talking at it, all of us. There's like, seven of us. One of my friends that's like, the tough guy of the group had a baseball bat, and he comes pretty close to her, and he says, if you don't tell me who you are, I'm gonna hit you with my bat. And when he says that, that person thing pops up in the air. Like, jumps up and stands up and is pretty tall. My friend throws the bat at it and runs in the opposite direction. And we all just run. But I was so scared that I couldn't run fast. I remember trying to run, but I couldn't. I was running really slow. And we start running towards the village. And I looked back to see it, and it's running behind me, but in such a weird way. It's such a creepy way. It's kind of like skipping with its arms, running up and down. Very weird. I got even more scared watching it run behind me, that creepy that I almost froze. But my friend grabbed me and pulled me. I was like, come on, let's go, let's go. Get to the edge of the cornfield. And the first house out of the cornfield into the village is my uncle's house. And by the time I get there, they already had knocked on my uncle's door. And they said, hey, that shadow thing is in the cornfield chasing us. My uncle whistled screams through the whole village. Nobody even asked any questions. Everybody brought their shotguns out, their guns, everything. The whole village gathered up with the flashlights, and they're like, let's look for it. And us, the kids, we stayed there. The adults went in the cornfield to the back of the village. There was also at the small forest. They went to the forest with cars, trucks, guns, searched for the thing all night. They couldn't find it. But they didn't even ask us any questions because they already knew what it was. And so me and my friends were like, oh, my God, that was crazy. What was that? And so nothing happened for a while. And then one day, we end up going to a quinceanera, which is like a sweet 16, but for 15 years old in Mexico. And so I go with my uncle, my aunt and my cousin. It ends up finishing, like around 12 o' clock at midnight. They come back at midnight, back to the village, to my uncle's home where I'm staying at for the summer. And my uncle and my aunt have this weird thing. I don't know if they're the only ones that do this, but where my uncle goes, uses the restroom at the outhouse, which is behind the house. My aunt would always accompany him, take toilet paper and the flashlight that she would wait outside while he used the restroom. And so we get back from the quinceanera, they put the kids to bed and everything in the room. On the other room, the at had broke down, so the kids were gonna all sleep in one room with my uncle. And I'm in there while they're laying down, going to sleep, and my aunt and my uncle to the restroom. And all of a sudden my aunt comes running in by herself, really scared, goes inside the room where I'm at and the kids are asleep. And she just doesn't even say anything. She just goes straight to the closet. And I'm like, what is she doing? She's going through the closet looking for something. All of a sudden she turns around with a handgun and some bullets. Handgun on one side, bullets on the other. Side of it. And she looked at me and she says, here, go help your uncle. He's chasing that thing again. And I was so scared that I said one of the most weakest things I could say. I said, no, I'll stay here with the kids. You go with my uncle. And she said, heck no. I'm not saying you're the kid, you're the man. You go help your uncle find that thing. So I'm like, damn. So I get the gun and I get the bullets, and I have the bullets on my right hand and the gun on my left, and I start walking to the back. She locks the door, make sure nobody comes in. And I'm out there looking for my uncle in the cornfield, trying to help him find this creature. And I keep whispering in Spanish and I say, uncle, where are you? It's me, uncle, where are you? I didn't even put the bullets in the gun. The gun had no bullets because that's how scared I was. I kept the bullets in my right hand and I keep on whispering, uncle, where are you? Where are you? And I hear him say, hey, shoot me. I'm walking up towards you. And he does. I see him and I'm like, oh, I feel so relieved. I said, here, I give him the bullets, I give him the gun. He said, you need to put the bullets inside the gun. I'm like, I'm shaking. I'm so scared. I don't know what to do. And so he ends up waking up the neighbors again. They all grabbed their rifles and their flashlights and we again started looking for for it through the woods, through the cornfield. We could not find it. We never found out what that thing was. We never found it. And that's the last time I remember hearing about that shadow person, that creature in the cornfield. But it didn't happen once. It happened multiple times, and it happened to different people. That is my story. I hope you guys enjoy it.

[Derek Hayes]

Thank you, Joe. You know, there has to be a more humane way to source owl eggs. Surely by now there are lab grown options, right? What a gruesome way to make a buck. And in all honesty, a bold move on your part, Joe, given that you were in the land of Lechuza, the owl witch that we talked about earlier. And you know, maybe that's what Joe encountered that day. Lechuza summoned to avenge the deaths of its fellow owls. But whatever it was there in the corn, we sure are glad that you told us all about it, Joe. Thank you again for calling it. And folks that's going to do it for this All Mexico episode. We sure do appreciate you joining us here this evening. The Monsters Among Us podcast is written and produced by me, Derek Hayes, copyright Red Grow Media. Additional support is provided by Sarah Carter Hayes, Delaney Bowers and Connor Ryan. All media used in this production is done so under the protection of fair use. Be sure to join us on our social media pages, give us a like and follow on YouTube, leave us a rate and review wherever that sort of thing is possible, and join us in our Discord server to keep the conversation going. Now don't forget you can catch the show every Saturday evening at 10pm Eastern on the Unex digital network. Just visit onxnetwork.com to tune in. Tonight's score was performed provided by Iron Cthulhu, Apocalypse Code at Ag Music and Carl Casey at whitepad Audio. Now watch our movie about the Borrego Triangle, that hot spot that we spoke of earlier. Just visit borregotriangle.com to learn how. And join us in the beyond where you can get tons of bonus content and ad free content, all for the cost of a cup of coffee. Visit monsters among us podcast.com and click that Patreon tab. All right gang, that's all I have for tonight, but I'll be back here on Thursday with a brand new episode. Until then, you keep it spooky and have a good night.

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