Gary Brecka (2:44)

I agree with that.

Peter Diamandis (2:45)

This coming decade, I'm imagining that when I come back to Gary Bareca's home in the next few years, I'm going to be. You're going to be sitting there talking to Jarvis, and Jarvis is Jarvis is going to be picking up all of your, you know, all of your sensors on your body and saying, gary, hop in the hydrogen bath. I need some cryo. I need this. It's going to be. I mean, you can turn on your AI biohacker support system.

Gary Brecka (3:10)

Right, right, right. Yeah, I believe in that, too. You know, I think everybody's excited about my biohacking habit except my wife, because I. Every single room in the house has got something in it. You know, I mean, I guess there are other things, better things you. Or worse things you could be.

Peter Diamandis (3:23)

I guess when I show.

Gary Brecka (3:24)

I don't collect cars or anything like that.

Peter Diamandis (3:26)

She was in the Jacuzzi, right. Right there, anyway. At the time.

Gary Brecka (3:30)

Yeah. She was in the Cold plunge.

Peter Diamandis (3:32)

That's right.

Gary Brecka (3:33)

Yeah.

Peter Diamandis (3:33)

Yeah.

Gary Brecka (3:33)

And. But I think when I finally put the hocat machine, when I put the transdermal ozone machine in our master bedroom, she was like, okay, I've had enough of your biopacking. But it's amazing, you know, I mean, it's. I'm just. I have a childlike fascination with human performance and cellular biology and all of the technology, this bridge between artificial intelligence technology and human optimization. And there's some really fascinating technologies out there, not all of them are very expensive either, that have significant impacts on our cellular biology.

Peter Diamandis (4:09)

Yeah, we're going to talk about that. And I think this is what I call the golden age of healthspan. This is the age of the healthspan revolution. And I want people to understand what's possible today. And I think, you know, actually it's funny because you and Tony Robbins. I've been in both of your homes. Tony's a dear friend and a partner, and you've been there as well, and you've got the best toys on the planet.

Gary Brecka (4:36)

Yeah, but we just collected, you know, the right toys. You know, some people collect cars. You know, we collect biohacking devices.

Peter Diamandis (4:43)

Well, we'll get. Well, we'll chat that. Now, what do we got here? And mine is colored red and yours is colored.

Gary Brecka (4:50)

Yeah, yours just needs to be charged.

Peter Diamandis (4:52)

I just thought maybe.

Gary Brecka (4:52)

Telling me that it's charged.

Peter Diamandis (4:53)

This is a Reflection of my inner, you know, inner.

Gary Brecka (4:56)

It didn't turn red when you grabbed it. This is hydrogen gas. I mean, probably of, of all, of all the biohacks, you know, under $30 a month, let's say I'm probably most excited about hydrogen gas and hydrogen water. You know, this, this bottle will run you about $250, but you can get tablets, these elemental magnesium, table them in a bottle of water and create high part per million hydrogen gas. But I think it's the most overlooked modality in all of biohacking today.

Peter Diamandis (5:31)

So let's dive in there because listen, I'm a scientist, I'm a physician, I'm a biohacker and understanding fundamentally what's driving hydrogen's benefit. I'd love to understand it.

Gary Brecka (5:46)

Well, there's, there are lots of, of studies and I'll send them to you so you can link them in the show. Notes on, on hydrogen gas and its capacity to lower inflammation, improve circulation, to improve markers of methylation. There's a really interesting study that I, I thought it's probably worth mentioning in, in the Journal of Experimental Gerontology. It was published in November of 2021. And what was interesting about this study, and we could talk about a lot of the other clinical evidence for hydrogen gas, which is a very prevalent gas in the human body. It's, it's harmless to human beings. It is an antioxidant. Right. It actually donates electrons. But historically and, and evolutionarily, we have reduced the amount of hydrogen gas that is in our diets, that is in our gut, microbiome, that is in our water. Most of our water is very still. Now, if you scooped water out of a running stream, you'd find high part per million hydrogen versus bottled water, which is going to be more stagnant. You know, most of the time. It's been sitting for about two years. It's a really interesting thing. You could do it even at home. You can order off of Amazon for a couple of bucks. You can order something called an ORP meter, oxidative reduction potential. You just go on Amazon, they're between 12 and 15 bucks. And this is a millivoltage meter that will actually measure the capacity of a fluid like water to either slightly cause oxidation or to reduce oxidation to actually. And you want this number to be negative. The more negative the number, the more it has the capacity to reduce inflammation. And what you'll find is if you poured standard bottled water into here, it would have a positive orp, meaning it's not reducing inflammation it's actually causing some oxidation of about 150 to 200. The second you hit that button and add hydrogen gas or you drop an elemental magnesium tablet in that glass of water and it effervesces into hydrogen gas, you'll see the ORP drop to negative 400, negative 500. And this, this study in the Journal of Experimental gerontology back in 2021 actually looked at a six month placebo controlled randomized group of.

Peter Diamandis (7:53)

Is this about the acidification of your body?

Gary Brecka (7:55)

If that's. Yeah, it's about the acidification of your body. Exactly. Because we know that we can't change the PH of the body by drinking alkaline water. Can change the PH of the body by adding hydrogen gas, micro bubbles of hydrogen gas to, to the, to your water. Because ph stands for the potential of hydrogen, they'd say it's a charge. If you want to change the charge in the body, you change the charge with hydrogen. Or you can do it by touching the surface of the earth or laying on a PEMF mat and using a low gauss current. But what's really fascinating is most studies will look at healthy populations when they want to study recovery or traumatic brain injuries or post surgical recovery. This particular study looked at 70 year old men and women over a six month period of time with a somewhere just drinking regular water. The others were drinking high part per million hydrogen water. And I really encourage your readers to your viewers to look this study up. It's incredible. And they actually used well known markers of methylation, one called Tet2TET methylcytosine deoxygenase to actually measure the impact on, on methylation. So cellular methylation, which is a marker of cellular metabolism, how well your cells are actually taking nutrients and converting them into the usable form. They measured choline levels in the left frontal lobe of the brain. They measured creatine levels in the right parietal area of the brain. They measured sit stand ratios. So they found that it was an antisarcopenic. Measured several markers of inflammation, C reactive protein, creatine, phosphokinase and, and others. And across adding hydrogen gas to the water improved all of these markers including.

Peter Diamandis (9:34)

Telomere length, which is amazing.

Gary Brecka (9:35)

Pretty astounding.

Peter Diamandis (9:36)

Let me put some numbers against this. So how much hydrogen gas enriched water will you consume per day?

Gary Brecka (9:44)

So in, in the mornings I'll use it instead of caffeine. So you know, a single tablet will get you to between 9 and 12 parts per million. Hydrogen. Some people can tolerate more than others. I drink Four or five of those a day.

Peter Diamandis (9:57)

Four or five tablets.

Gary Brecka (9:58)

Four or five of those tablets throughout the day, or four or five of these bottles throughout the day. It'll mitigate all of the effects of travel. I mean, if you want to do an interesting experiment, when you, when you wake up in the morning, take four or five of these elemental magnesium tablets, four or five of them, and drop them in about a half a liter of water, about 750mls of water in room temperature, and about 50 seconds, they, they will effervesce and those micro bubbles will be in the water and just drink that entire 750 milliliters of water and just feel how switched on you are. Really, you are. Oh, you are instantly switched on. You can feel the inflammatory cascade dropping. You feel more mentally alert, more clear, more cognizant. I mean, it sounds like I'm just trying to sell hydrogen water, but I mean, technically I am. I'm just. I think of all of the biohacks that are out there. You know, you got a red light bed, it costs $119,000, and elemental magnesium H2 tabs will cost you less than a buck a day. Yeah, and will completely change the trajectory.

Peter Diamandis (10:54)

Listen, so you know, I am again an experimentalist, and it is. Does. Do you have a visceral impact? Do you feel different?

Gary Brecka (11:02)

No question that you will feel different. I mean, the, the markers for sleep improved in the majority of these people. You found better deep and REM sleep. And you know, as we know, deep sleep is where we're detoxifying our glymphatic systems. Active REM sleep is where we're assembling memories and putting the cognitive actions of the day together with our subconscious and our learning.

Peter Diamandis (11:22)

Give me one second about carbonated water. How do you feel about that?

Gary Brecka (11:28)

So CO2, I think, has the opposite effect. I haven't seen any studies on carbonated beverages having an impact on inflammation, cognitive function.

Peter Diamandis (11:41)

Are you warning people against using carbonated water?

Gary Brecka (11:44)

I think if you're going to drink water, you should drink hydrogen, still water. With, with hydrogen. Okay. I think there's. There is. The two shouldn't even be in the same.

Peter Diamandis (11:51)

I'm going. So I have not been. And I will go and run this experiment.

Gary Brecka (11:56)

I'll link the studies and you know, I even have a hydrogen bath at the house.

Peter Diamandis (12:01)

I saw that when we're taking the tour. And in fact, and in fact, the way you described it was such that, okay, if I have 20 minutes extra, I'm jumping in the bathroom.

Gary Brecka (12:08)

No, no question.

Peter Diamandis (12:09)

So what's your. So this is. So we'll show an image of this in a little bit, but this is a, this is a normal bathtub where the external hydrogen generator that's bubbling hydrogen into the water and you're not consuming it, you're just bathing it.

Gary Brecka (12:24)

It's going right transdermal. So you, you. It's, it's, it's a hydrogen gas generator. You essentially fill it up with distilled water.

Peter Diamandis (12:31)

Yeah.

Gary Brecka (12:31)

And what it will do is it'll take distilled water, it'll break it apart, it'll throw the oxygen into the air, and it'll put the hydrogen gas.

Peter Diamandis (12:36)

So I've got, I've got this up on the screen here.

Gary Brecka (12:38)

Yeah, that's it.

Peter Diamandis (12:39)

That's the generator.

Gary Brecka (12:41)

That, that, that is an absolute game changer. I think if I only had a single biohacking device, it would be a toss up between that and a red light therapy bed. And a good red light bed is going to cost you over 100 grand. That'll cost you seven grand.

Peter Diamandis (12:57)

So a hydrant bath is, is seven grand.

Gary Brecka (12:59)

Yeah. And there are places where you can go and do this. I mean, so what's the.

Peter Diamandis (13:03)

Okay. I'm still trying to understand as a physician and a scientist, how this is impacting me.

Gary Brecka (13:10)

Well, when you say something is an antioxidant, what does that mean? What does it mean when blueberries are antioxidants? It means that they're donating ions, they're reducing the inflammation. So, and, and very specifically, if you can get hydrogen gas to go transdermal, which you can, you're affecting microvascular circulation. If you look at the, our circulatory system, you know, a lot of people don't realize that, you know, 70% of our circulation is not actually done by our heart. Nobody has a heart that's strong enough to pump blood from the center of your chest to the tip of your toes, through all the capillaries in your brain, your liver, your lung, your pancreas, your kidneys. The heart's circulating about 30 to 32% of the blood in our circulatory system. And the rest of it is done by an activity called vasomotion or vasomotor. It's almost think of a snake swallowing a mouse pumps the blood to the entrance of these very small capillaries. And then there's a wave like peristal.

Peter Diamandis (13:59)

And you've got these valves in your venous system that only flow the blood in one direction.

Gary Brecka (14:04)

Only flow the blood in one direction. In this phase of motor activity, again, like a snake swallowing a mouse. And the mouse never goes back the other way. Similar to how our intestinal tract works. There's no pressure behind the intestinal tract. There's a peristaltic motion to the, to the intestinal tract. And, and this is the first part of our circulatory system to be compromised. If you think of 70% of our circulation is, is microvascular and it, it needs a vasomotor or vasomotion activity in order to function. You could improve 70% of your circulation if you were able to affect vasomotor activity, which transdermal hydrogen will, Oral hydrogen will do the same thing.

Peter Diamandis (14:41)

So I want to put some numbers on this again. So you said, okay, run the experiment. Have 3/4 of a liter of water, put in 4 or 5 the tabs down it, see how you feel.

Gary Brecka (14:49)

Instead of, instead of, instead of coffee, next time you have a hangover, take four or five. I don't drink. But if you drink and you get a hangover or you just have a headache, you have a migraine, you have a headache, you feel brain fog and you need to be awake, take four or five of those H2 tabs, drop them in water. You can, you can get them at drink h2tabs.com Like I said, it's less than a buck a day. One of the reasons why I'm so fascinated by it. And drop those in there and just drink that 750 milliliters of water and you're, I promise you, the worst of all headaches or worst of all hangovers will be gone in 10 or 12.

Peter Diamandis (15:25)

Amazing. So having done that, what do you do during the day? Do you continue this level of consumption?

Gary Brecka (15:30)

Yes. Just a single tablet and 12 to 16 ounces of water. I, I, you know, I drink the mountain valley spring water that comes in the bottles.

Peter Diamandis (15:37)

Yep.

Gary Brecka (15:37)

So it's like 750mls is half a liter. You can get the big liters, too. Just put a single hydrogen tablet in there and just sip on that throughout throughout the day. I'll take four or five of those throughout the day. It's, it's an absolute game changer, everybody.

Peter Diamandis (15:51)

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Gary Brecka (16:34)

So one that's in the public domain recently, Jon Jones, you know, when he was preparing for his fight, I think he fought on November 16th of last year, was his last heavyweight fight. He was intending to retire initially after that fight. I sat next to him at a UFC fight in the sphere, and he leaned over and he put his hand on my. My leg. He grabbed my leg. I was like, oh, God, you do whatever you want, bro. And.

Peter Diamandis (17:06)

And he literally looks.

Gary Brecka (17:07)

He looks me in the eye, and he goes, you. You're a man of God, aren't you? And I said, yeah. Yeah, I am. And he said, I feel like God put you in my life at this moment. I really need to talk to you. And I. And he's put this out in the. The public domain. And when I spoke to him, he said, listen, I'm. For the last 12 or 15 years, I just wake up every morning in excruciating pain. I mean, He's a Division 1 wrestler. He was, you know, beat up his body a lot. He beat up his body. He's the greatest heavyweight, maybe, maybe one of the greatest fighters, according to Dana White, to ever live. I. I believe that. And he's an absolute gem of a human being. He's an absolute gem of a human being. But so I. A few weeks later, I flew out to his fight camp, and when he told me about how sore and achy all of his joints were, and he was in slow time recovering, and it was taking him a long time from waking in the morning till he could start to train. And he was only training five days a week, not six days a week. So he's taking two days off on the weekends. I introduced hydrogen water to him.

Peter Diamandis (18:12)

So you're thinking this is whole body inflammation.

Gary Brecka (18:14)

This is the whole body inflammation. If you think about where we get inflammation, you know, the majority of this is going to focus in the. In the areas of the least. The most compromised blood flow. So ligaments, tendons, bones, cartilaginous surfaces, joints, areas where, you know, the musculotendinous insertion, that area where you don't have a lot of Blood flow. You know, you don't get a lot of soreness in your muscles if you're used to training, but you get a lot of joint soreness, and you get a lot of tendon ligament soreness, and you get a lot of chronic inflammation in those areas. Well, if you can get hydrogen gas, which you can to go transdermal and, and reduce that inflammatory process and improve circulation, which I'll also give you the links to some of the, you know, grade one, grade two sprain strain injuries that they treat with hydrogen water versus the RICE protocol. The rest, ice, crest and elevate, and how, hands down, transdermal hydrogen was more effective than ice and compression and elevation. But long story short, John texts me a few weeks later, and it's like, man, I can't believe that I'm waking up not in pain, pain free. I'm adding a sixth day to my training schedule. And of course, he went and dominated his fight, which I take no credit for. And he's announced that he's going to continue fighting. And, you know, I gave one to Michael Chandler for his last fight. You know, I've given these hydrogen baths to a ton of people. My parents get in it every single day. Both my mother had bilateral knee, so.

Peter Diamandis (19:37)

This is the equivalent of the cure, sort of bathing in the.

Gary Brecka (19:41)

I mean, it sounds like a. I'm so high on. On hydrogen gas.

Peter Diamandis (19:45)

Okay, so talk.

Gary Brecka (19:46)

Nobody's talking about it.

Peter Diamandis (19:47)

All right, so someone who has a high inflammatory load, and you can measure that and the technology is there.

Gary Brecka (19:53)

Absolutely.

Peter Diamandis (19:55)

How often are they. And how long are they bathing in this?

Gary Brecka (19:58)

25 minutes, once a day. So my wife sage has an L5S1 fusion. You know, shortly before we met, a little over 10 years ago, she was in a really bad car accident. Ended up dislodging her L5S1 disc. It degenerated, and she had to have a fusion. So they went in through an anterior approach to the disc out, put a spacer in cadaver bone. Ever since then, she's had, you know, low back pain, radiculopathy, you know, all. All of the usual byproducts of L5S1 fusion. If she gets in the hydrogen bath for 25 minutes before she goes to bed, she sleeps entirely through the night, pain free. If she doesn't, you know, often she's waking up, you know, in the middle of the night and having to go stretch or walk around or move it and then get back into bed. So I think these modalities where you can replace things like methotrexate and methylprednisone and prednisone and anti inflammatories and corticosteroids.

Peter Diamandis (20:55)

This stuff is poison.

Gary Brecka (20:56)

It's so, it's so poison. I mean initially it has an anti inflammatory response, but it will eat the joint like a termite.

Peter Diamandis (21:02)

Yeah, yeah, no, it's, it will solve your problem in the near term and cause you many more in the long term.

Gary Brecka (21:07)

I mean, I think cortisone injections, but probably ended more careers in professional sports earlier than they should have than maybe any other interventive therapy.

Peter Diamandis (21:17)

I want to, I want to jump into something that is, you're passionate about and is fundamental, which is methylation. Just if you would take us from there.

Gary Brecka (21:30)

You know, I, I think methylation is.

Peter Diamandis (21:33)

So what is methylation?

Gary Brecka (21:34)

So methylation, also called one carbon metabolism is essentially the best way I can describe it is. It's the, that the human body goes through to take all of the nutrients that enter our body. First we have to understand that there's not a single compound known to mankind. No vitamin, mineral, amino acid, fluid, protein, carbohydrate, you know, fat, nothing that we put into the human body that is used in the format that we put it in. Most of us know that we actually don't eat to fuel our cells. We eat to feed our bacteria and our bacteria eat to feed us. Right. So there's an intermediary between our food and our.

Peter Diamandis (22:10)

Just, just to, and just to comment on that. Right, because it's so important. The bacteria in your microbiome determine how foods are digested, how medicines are digested. You know, if you've got the wrong, you know, how much exactly, it really is everything. You are a collection of 40 trillion human cells and like 100 trillion bacterial cells.

Gary Brecka (22:34)

Right.

Peter Diamandis (22:35)

So companies like Viome and others help you understand how these bacteria are metabolizing what you eat in the drugs and what it, what works for you.

Gary Brecka (22:46)

I mean, huge fan of biome. And ultimately they are having a positive impact on methylation. That's one of the mechanisms that the outcomes of that test impact. And so if you, you know, for example, we take in folate or folic acid and this goes through a series of enzymatic reductions and it eventually becomes something called methylfolate or 5 methylfolate, which is the active form.

Peter Diamandis (23:13)

So I'm going to steal one of your hydrant tablets while you're here. You can throw it in because my battery is dead on this. Oh, it is, yeah. And by the way, just for folks, you know, a Methyl group is a carbon with, with four.

Gary Brecka (23:29)

Yeah.

Peter Diamandis (23:29)

With three hydrogens.

Gary Brecka (23:30)

Right? Yeah.

Peter Diamandis (23:31)

And just to connect it back to our space cadets when, when people are talking about when starship is going to land on Mars, it's being fueled by liquid oxygen and methane, which is a carbon, and four hydrogen.

Gary Brecka (23:44)

So you know what's incredible is in microbiology or in chemistry, the difference between the molecular impact of a compound by simply attaching or detaching a methyl group is night and day, it's everything. So neurotransmitters are activated and deactivated. You know, we downregulate neurotransmitters, for example catecholamines, you know, fight or flight neurotransmitters. There are genetic mutations that don't allow people to metabolize to break down these neurotransmitters. And let me just back up and I want to touch on that because it's an important subject. But this process of methylation, or one carbon metabolism is the process that our body goes to take something from the non usable form and convert it into the usable form. So for example, if you ingest folic acid, folic acid is useless. It does not prevent neural tube defects. It doesn't have any other positive effects in the body. In fact, folic acid is a man made compound. You can't find it anywhere on the surface of the earth. It does not exist naturally in nature. Or folate does, but folic acid doesn't. But regardless, folic acid and folate follow the same enzymatic pathway until they reach one of the primary genes of methylation called the MTHFR mutation, the infamous gene.

Peter Diamandis (25:07)

We can, we can, we can. And understanding your genome and understanding what.

Gary Brecka (25:11)

Your MHFT are, 44% of your listeners have that.

Peter Diamandis (25:14)

Yeah, that's a problem.

Gary Brecka (25:16)

It is, it is a huge problem. And the consequences, meaning you're not properly methylating in your body, you're not properly methylating. So this is one of the main genes of methylation. So our methylation genes will say, okay, we pull crude oil out of the ground. Right. But you can't put crude oil into your gas tank. And the reason why you can is because the car doesn't understand fuel source. Yeah, if you can refine crude oil into gasoline now, the car can accept that as a fuel source. The human body is no different. Our cellular biology does not use folic acid, doesn't use folate. It uses the form of folic acid and folate that is methylated into, through the process of methylation, which is Why?

Peter Diamandis (25:52)

I.

Gary Brecka (25:52)

You know, if you look at this gene mutation, the MTHFR gene mutation, which is probably the most common gene mutation in the world, I mean, it's estimated between 44 and 62% of the population has this. It doesn't sound like a big deal to not be able to convert folic acid into methylfolate until you realize that folic acid is the most prevalent nutrient in the human diet. Right. In the United States, all of our grains, all. All white flour, bread, pasta, cereals, grains of any kind, are sprayed with folic acid. We call it fortified or enriched.

Peter Diamandis (26:23)

Yes.

Gary Brecka (26:24)

So fortified or enriched foods are sprayed with chemical folic acid. So what happens if you put fortified or enriched foods into the body of somebody who can't process it? Well, now they go nuts. So if you look at history of postpartum depression, which, for the record, can begin during pregnancy, most of the women that get postpartum depression have the MTHFR gene mutation. They're told by their doctor to take high doses of folic acid, 1500, 1800% of the daily allowance to overcome the.

Peter Diamandis (26:55)

Fact that they're not methylating.

Gary Brecka (26:56)

And. Yes, and this makes it worse. And now all of a sudden, because I haven't seen any RCTs, randomized clinical trials linking elevated levels of pregnancy hormones to postpartum depression, but we will still blame pregnancy on postpartum depression, and, and we should be blaming it on the high ingestion of folic acid. Now, if we gave those women methylfolate, if they took a methylated prenatal vitamin, their incidence of postpartum depression would collapse. Yeah, it's not the, it's not the rise in estrogen, you know, going from in the 400s during their normal menstrual cycle to going into the 4000s, like you see when they get pregnant, that's perfectly normal for estrogen. You go up by 10 times, bind water in the interstitial space while the uterine wall, you know, increase the, the, the, the. The laxity of the, of the pelvic girdle, all those things that need to happen during pregnancy. But then you take 1500-1800% of the daily allowance of folic acid because your obgyn. OBGYN tells you to do that. And the next thing you know, you're. You're. You're going nuts. Anxiety, anxiousness, depression, racing thoughts. I mean, there's so many people listening to this podcast right now that have that G mutation or they have a genetic mutation called COMPT C O M T, which is Another bad one for women, women that have had hormone testing done, if, if they've ever had what I think is the gold standard of women's hormone testing, which is called a Dutch test. It's a, it's a multi hour urine test.

Peter Diamandis (28:21)

Yep.

Gary Brecka (28:22)

On that test you will see this genetic mutation. Compt catechol o methyltransferase. And the reason why this, this particular gene of methylation is important is because it determines a number of things. It determines how rapidly or how slowly you break down catecholamines. And why that's important is that a rise in catecholamines is anxiety.

Peter Diamandis (28:48)

Yes.

Gary Brecka (28:49)

There are so many people that are.

Peter Diamandis (28:50)

Suffering from anxiety and, and you hold.

Gary Brecka (28:53)

On to it and what the point is that no one's told them what it is. If you ask 15 practitioners what is anxiety, they will describe the characteristics of that condition. It's a fear of the future. It's a sense of impending doom. It's a sense of fear without the presence of a fear. Well, that's all of the things I'm feeling, what's causing it. And the majority of people that have anxiety cannot tell you. It's not like every time I step on a crowded elevator and I'm claustrophobic, I have a panic attack. Or every time I walk to the edge of a 30th floor balcony, I'm afraid of heights, I have a panic attack. These are people whose anxiety comes and goes seemingly without a trigger. I promise you, you should be investigating that gene C O M T because you may be a slow to break down to downregulate these catecholamines, these fight orf flight neurotransmitters. And as they rise, they do three things. Number one, they create awakened state. And so someone could be sitting, having a podcast just like you and I are right now in a, in a very safe room with our friends right outside the door and just all of a sudden be kind of overwhelmed with anxiety.

Peter Diamandis (30:01)

Yeah.

Gary Brecka (30:01)

And now what they're going to try to do is relate it to their outside environment and maybe I'm afraid they're.

Peter Diamandis (30:05)

Going to turn around. You're going to rationalize it more.

Gary Brecka (30:08)

Yeah. And, and they're going to try to rationalize it by looking at a cluster of symptoms outside of their body. The truth is, if they understood that it's a rise in catecholamines, they could start to take methylated vitamins, the complex of B vitamins, methylcobalamin, methylfolate, sometimes SAM e s adenosylmethionine over the vitamins and nutrients that would then allow them to begin to methylate these neurotransmitters and down regulate them and calm that down.

Peter Diamandis (30:38)

I mean, what I get so excited about is this knowledge. This is, you know, this is William Gibson who said, you know, the future is here. It's just not evenly distributed. And I think that you know all of this knowledge and cheers to hydrogen water. Take a sip.

Gary Brecka (30:55)

Yours is higher part per million than mine now.

Peter Diamandis (30:57)

I'll enjoy it. But I think what's fascinating is going to be we're on the brink of a moment in time when all of this knowledge is knowable by anybody. Not because they happen to listen to this podcast or they've happened to listen to, you know, the ultimate human work and media platform that you've built, or your books, or my books. It's because they've turned, turned on their AI health system.

Gary Brecka (31:24)

I agree.

Peter Diamandis (31:25)

And that, that system, I mean, when you're born, you have 3.2 billion letters that guide your life for the, it's your software for the rest of your life. Unless you do a CRISPR therapy or gene therapy, it's there. And so that plus the, you know, I don't know, hundreds of subdermal and wearables that are being developed will be able to know at any one moment in time what is your physiological state and how to optimize it. And so, you know, I've been having this argument recently. Take my sip of hydrated water here.

Gary Brecka (31:59)

By the way, I happen to agree with you. I think the greatest intersection for humanity is the intersection of artificial intelligence, big data and early detection. And you know, specifically with respect to methylation. I mean, these are 300 billion independent metabolic transactions going on in at any given moment. And AI can make sense out of it all.

Peter Diamandis (32:24)

And we, you know, meat sacks on our own cannot. You know, I've been having this debate with a number of, shall we say, more old school physician and scientists that are in the media right now saying, no, you will not make it to 120, no, we're not going to bend the health curve. And they're absolutely positive. And the equivalency for me is the individuals back in the 1890s saying, no, humans will never fly. No, we'll never go to the stars.

Gary Brecka (32:58)

Well, it was the Wright brothers that said mankind will never fly.

Peter Diamandis (33:01)

From New York to Paris, it's amazing.

Gary Brecka (33:03)

It was the Wright brothers.

Peter Diamandis (33:04)

I recently did a podcast with Neil Degrasse Tyson and we were talking about 30 year increments of human technological progress. And we're talking about the Kitty Hawk flight. And then Wilbur Wright goes, no, you're not making it.

Gary Brecka (33:17)

You'll never make it to Paris.

Peter Diamandis (33:18)

And the other thing that Neil said was, oh, by the way, the first real commercial aircraft was the Boeing 707 with conversion. It was the conversion, I think, the KC 135. And the length of, of the.

Gary Brecka (33:34)

Oh, that's right. The wingspan.

Peter Diamandis (33:35)

The wingspan, the 707 was greater than the length of the first Kitty Hawk flight. Which is. Which is crazy. And, and we are living in a world where, yes, the history, our history does not necessarily project what our future is going to be. And, you know, my, my basic premise, Gary, is we are running, you know, billions of chemical reactions per second in 40 trillion cells in your human body. And we've never been able to understand that, but AI will enable us. And there is fundamentally a reason of why aging takes place. It's not this random thing why some people live to 120 and others are dead at 50. There's a reason, and we're going to be able to understand that and begin to impact that.

Gary Brecka (34:24)

Right. And I, and I think what AI is going to do is, is because we all know it's multifactorial. It's not just methylation. It's your detoxification pathways and your transulfuration pathways and how many, you know, microtoxins you're ingesting every single day, which we're doing a great job of here in the United States. We actually just dropped to, what, 66th in the world in life expectancy on December 6th. 66th in the world. We're below some sub Saharan South African nation that don't have clean water and sanitation.

Peter Diamandis (34:51)

And guess what? We're number one in health care costs.

Gary Brecka (34:54)

Yeah, yeah. We're Healthcare spending. Yeah, yeah, healthcare spending. And we only really lead the world in seven things, and it's morbid obesity, type 2 diabetes, multiple chronic disease in a single biome.

Peter Diamandis (35:05)

Proud to be American.

Gary Brecka (35:06)

Infant mortality, maternal mortality. And, and what is it? Type. Yeah, type 2 diabetes, if I didn't mention that one. But, you know, it's astounding how much we spend in the outcomes that we're getting. But I do agree with you that, you know, aging is multifactorial. Methylation is absolutely a process, a part of it. You know, whenever I speak to crowds of. Of people are on stages, I'll put up this horrifically confusing chart of methylation. Right. It's like, you know, it literally looks like somebody took you know, colored spaghetti and threw it against the wall. And it, and it shows all of these intricate cellular processes. And the only reason why I show that chart is I tell people to look at it for a minute, and I say, look at this chart. And this is what's going on inside of your cellular biology 300 billion times every day. Every time we turn, we turn over roughly 300 billion cells a day. And this is happening 300 billion times a day. Now, look at this chart and try to find a chemical, try to find a synthetic, try to find a pharmaceutical. You won't find any of those things. What you find on that chart are vitamins, minerals, amino acids, nutrients, and Lego blocks. Yes. And so when you start to deplete certain vitamins, minerals, and amino acids, when you start to pluck them out of that chart, you can see that the system goes haywire. And so many people are suffering from what they think are the consequences of aging. Brain fog, weight gain, water retention, poor response to exercise, poor sleep, poor deep sleep, you know, all kinds of hormonal imbalance. And they think that these are just consequences of aging. They're not. They're consequences of missing raw material. It is astounding what happens to human beings when you just give their body the raw material. Material it needs to do its job. You know, in plant physiology, we believe this right? If, if, if anyone had a leaf rotting in a palm tree or a tree in their yard, and a true botanist, a true arborist came to their house, they wouldn't even touch the leaf. They would court test the soil, and they would say, you know what, Peter? There's no nitrogen in the soil. And then they would add that nutrient to the soil, and the leaf would heal. Human beings are no different when we deprive the body of certain raw materials. You know, people get diagnosed with mental illnesses because. Or mood disorders because they're low on serotonin. But serotonin is methylated from tryptophan, which is a simple amino acid. And in order to methylate tryptophan, the amino acid, into serotonin, which happens in the gut. About 90% of our serotonin in our bodies is in our gut. And if you don't have it here, you can't have it here. It travels up the vagus nerve. But what, what happens in the gut is deficiencies in amino acids, and it deficiencies in the complex of B vitamins that cause this methylation process to occur. To convert tryptophan into serotonin or to convert phenylalanine and tyrosine into dopamine. And once you have the deficiencies in these neurotransmitters, now you can't assemble moods and emotional states that require these neurotransmitters. So you get told that you have a mood disorder or you have a mental illness, and now you're down the bandwagon of chemicals or synthetics to reduce certain synaptic uptakes of neurotransmitters when really you have deficiencies that are born out of a lack of nutrients. That's why I'm so fascinated by methylation.

Peter Diamandis (38:20)

Yeah. And of course methylation of our DNA is also how we control what genes are on and what genes are off.

Gary Brecka (38:28)

Yeah. It's also how we know that genes are not necessarily our destiny. It might be our predisposition. I love this slideshow.

Peter Diamandis (38:34)

You know, let's turn to some of the fun toys in your bedroom and your apartment, your incredible penthouse apartment. So this is a, a red light bed and there are a multitude of them. And like you said, this typically will run you 100k or so.

Gary Brecka (38:53)

Talk about this. So I'm a huge, huge fan of red light therapy. Let me also tell your listeners you don't need to run out and spend 100 grand on a red light bed. You know, you can Google around.

Peter Diamandis (39:03)

There are red light panels.

Gary Brecka (39:05)

There are red light panels. There are smaller red light beds there, there, there are other ways to get red light. You can usually find a in your area that will allow you to use these things on a membership basis. Or at the very least you can expose your skin to sunlight because we are very photovoltaic beings.

Peter Diamandis (39:23)

You and I were just, we're sitting here in Southern California and we were both outside like just, you know, soaking in.

Gary Brecka (39:29)

Yeah, yeah.

Peter Diamandis (39:30)

Well, we just did it just now. Yes, exactly.

Gary Brecka (39:32)

And so I always.

Peter Diamandis (39:33)

So what do you think? What do you normally when someone says, hey, why, how often you hanging out in red light bed? How long and what does it do for you?

Gary Brecka (39:42)

Ten minutes a day, every day, seven days a week? If I, if I can, you know, I have it in a separate room in the house. And I have this sort of pattern that I go through. I wake up in the morning, brush my teeth, splash.

Peter Diamandis (39:55)

What time do you wake up?

Gary Brecka (39:57)

Between 6 and 6:30, latest. Usually trying to be up with, you know, first light. So I really intentional about trying to, trying to get first light. In fact, we're out in LA now and we rented an Airbnb and I actually found a ladder behind the Airbnb. So I put it up over the, on the, there are three roofs on this house. And I put it up on the low roof and I climbed up on that, then got on the second one. They got on the third one. And I did my breath work up there on the, on, on the rooftop in the morning because it's nice and cool here. It's like in the high 40s.

Peter Diamandis (40:24)

Yeah.

Gary Brecka (40:24)

So I just took my shirt off and, and did some breath work up there. But, but exposing your skin to sunlight is, is, I don't want to say the poor man's red light, but it is the best way to get light therapy. But, but red light does a number of things. There are, there are a number of therapeutic wavelengths. If, first of all, light can be very damaging or can be very therapeutic in the body. If you look at the light spectrum, you know, starting with something like X ray, which is light, these are very damaging. Moving to uva, uvb, which are the damaging rays from the sun that, that cause skin cancer. And then there's a very narrow spectrum of light, Very, very narrow spectrum of light, which is the visible light spectrum. The reds, the orange, yellow, green. What is it? Blue, indigo and violet.

Peter Diamandis (41:08)

Yes.

Gary Brecka (41:08)

And then.

Peter Diamandis (41:09)

Roy G. Biv.

Gary Brecka (41:10)

Yeah, Roy G. Biv. I remember that still from, from biology. That's what I was playing in my head. Roy G. Biv. And then after that you get into infrared and near infrared. And what happens in these wavelengths, from red to infrared and this near infrared is that when these wavelengths of light pass through the body, one of the most powerful things that red light does is it goes into your mitochondria and it kicks out a gas called mitochondrial nitric oxide. And so it kicks out nitric oxide and it forces oxygen to dock. So there is a part of the Krebs cycle inside of the mitochondria where oxygen docks called cytochrome C oxidase. And you want to think of cytochrome C oxidase as a one armed man. He can either shake hands with nitric oxide or he can shake hands with oxygen, but he can't do both. He can't. If you can get cytochrome C oxidase to bind to oxygen, you can upstage the mitochondria. You can improve its production of adenosine triphosphate at the ATP. You know, we know that aerobic respiration yields 36 ATP. We know that anaerobic respiration yields 2 ATP. So an ATP is what really powers human beings.

Peter Diamandis (42:18)

Take me back to seventh grade.

Gary Brecka (42:20)

Yeah.

Peter Diamandis (42:21)

And to medical school.

Gary Brecka (42:22)

It's all about the mitochondria. So not to get over complicated, but what red light will do is it will kick out this gas and force oxygen to dock. So that is already a battery charger for your cellular biology. Literally charges you up like a battery. We also know that certain wavelengths of red light are. These are mostly the visible spectrum of lights because they're very superficial, are excellent for collagen, for elastin, for fibrin. It also back to the vasomotor circulation and vasomotion. It has a positive impact on both vasomotor and vasomotion. And there are numerous clinical studies in the public literature on PubMed and I'll have my team link them here on the improvement of eyesight because it improves microvascular circulation to, to, to the back of the eye. There are several cataract studies involving. So when you're.

Peter Diamandis (43:16)

When you're in a red bed, in a red light bed, do you need to shield your eyes or you.

Gary Brecka (43:20)

No, I leave my eyes open because you get these red light beds will have all four and sometimes five wavelengths. I use one called Lumapod Pro. It's got 45,000 light diodes. It has five wavelengths of light. A typical session is 10 minutes. You could do it for 20 minutes. And you're not only improving collagen, elastin, fibrin in your skin, you're improving microvascular circulation, you're reducing inflammation, you're charging up your mitochondria. I mean I, I think that and, and the hydrogen nanobath would be my, my two go to when I'm.

Peter Diamandis (43:54)

So I use a red light panel because I'm also got a red light cap on my head for stimulating circular circulation and hair growth. I'm using a red light oral device as well.

Gary Brecka (44:08)

I've seen those like it looks like a tongue device.

Peter Diamandis (44:10)

It basically.

Gary Brecka (44:11)

Is that my neuronic? No, because neuronic makes these helmets that actually go blank. Transcranial.

Peter Diamandis (44:17)

No, this is, this is both red light and blue light. This is impacting the pathogens in my mouth. Right. I've gotten so focused on oral health.

Gary Brecka (44:26)

Yeah.

Peter Diamandis (44:26)

Right. Because people should know your mouth and the bacteria and other pathogens in your mouth are a capillary away from your brain.

Gary Brecka (44:37)

Yes. And not too many capillaries away from your heart.

Peter Diamandis (44:41)

Yeah.

Gary Brecka (44:41)

And what's interesting is some of the bacteria that create calcification hydroxyapatite we find in. In cavitations in the mouth, but we all also find them in calcium in the heart. And I think Most people think that these. These hard plaques, like our bones are calcium, and they're actually not. They're. They're calcium combined with. With phosphorus, which is forming something called hydroxyapatite, very similar to what's. What's in our teeth. And, and in order for that to form, you need something like an osteoc blast that. That creates bone, or you need a bacteria that can. That can combine calcium and phosphorus to form this hydroxyapatite, which you find in cavitations in your. In your mouth. I'm a huge fan of, of getting, you know, seeing a quality biologic dentist. If you've had a root canal for sure and getting that cleaned out.

Peter Diamandis (45:29)

Testing your. Testing your oral microbiome to understand. Do you have any of the pathogens there that are really.

Gary Brecka (45:36)

I'm actually waiting for a tooth right now. Not to be gross, but.

Peter Diamandis (45:39)

Yeah, exactly.

Gary Brecka (45:40)

See that guy?

Peter Diamandis (45:41)

Yeah. Wait, waiting for it? In what respect?

Gary Brecka (45:45)

No, So I had a root canal here, and I. I went to a biologic dentist named Dr. Jugar Gandhi. Phenomenal biologic dentist. As far as I'm concerned. He's probably the best in the country. I cracked a tooth one day in the back of my mouth on the other side, and I called him and I was. I mean, I hate the dentist.

Peter Diamandis (46:04)

Yeah. I mean, who loves dentists, honestly?

Gary Brecka (46:07)

Sorry, Dr. Gandhi, but. And I. And I called him and I said, you know, dude, I've got to come up and see you, man. I cracked this tooth in my mouth and he goes, take a picture of it. And so I snap a picture of it and he goes, oh, that's your 19th tooth meridian. He goes, do you ever get left anterior shoulder pain?

Peter Diamandis (46:26)

No.

Gary Brecka (46:27)

And I swear to God, I did a whole podcast with him. I was so. I was so fascinated by it because I'm pretty, like, woke to, like, what's going on in the wellness where I watch the. Everything goes in my mind mouth, I'm in red light, I'm drinking hydro, I'm doing all this stuff. And. And I go, you know, that's. That's weird. I actually do get left anterior shoulder pain. I thought it was like a bicep tendonitis or something. It wasn't like enough for me to go to the urgent care or something. And then he said, do you ever get left lower lobe lung pain? I. He was that specific. I go, dude, you are freaking me out. Whenever I do hits cardio, I have a catch right here in my rib. I just thought it was like a runner's.

Peter Diamandis (47:05)

Yeah.

Gary Brecka (47:05)

Or something.

Peter Diamandis (47:06)

Yeah.

Gary Brecka (47:06)

And, and then he was super freaked me out because he said, does your left toe ever go numb?

Peter Diamandis (47:12)

No. Come on.

Gary Brecka (47:13)

I, I right hand to God, he. And it didn't go numb, but it would, it would tingle and itch. And my wife used to tease me because I would take my shoe off and I would itch my big toe and then I would put my shoe back on or I'd be talking to somebody and I would just tap it.

Peter Diamandis (47:26)

Yes.

Gary Brecka (47:27)

And because it would feel like it was going numb. And he goes, yeah, that's your 19th tooth meridian. And he sent me this chart and it mapped to the meridian. He's like, yeah, you had a root canal in that tooth. And I was like, I did actually. And he said, come up, we'll do this cone beam X ray. We'll, we'll check for cavitation. So I went up and they, this 360X ray, he actually found several of them, but two of those were in, in root canals. Yeah. And I posted this on my Instagram because I was so fascinated by what he was able to predict by this meridian. And then when he took my tooth out, there was this little balloon on, on the bottom of the tooth. It's getting gross. So if you're, if you're squeamish.

Peter Diamandis (48:03)

Caution for the viewers.

Gary Brecka (48:04)

Caution for the viewers. He took a, I go, what is that? He goes, oh, that's a cavitation. That's a pus filled sac with bacteria and parasites. I said, no way. I have no pain, I have no symptoms, I have no inflammation, I have no gum bleeding and nothing. So he pops it, puts it on the slide, and we darkfield it in his office. And I posted this video. You could see my macrophages going after the parasites and going after the bacteria. I mean, I was horrified by it. And so he cleaned it all out, ran red light in there, put platelet rich fiber in.

Peter Diamandis (48:35)

Yeah, let's just stop right here and tell people your, the health of your mouth is so critically important. Right. So you're 50, what now?

Gary Brecka (48:44)

54.

Peter Diamandis (48:45)

54. I'm 63 and I wish I had started paying attention even earlier in my life. Yeah, it is. People ignore it. They go to the dentist because they have to. When they have a, you know, that's fine. But there is so much more that you could be doing in terms of using an electric toothbrush. I have actually have a device. Flossing. Flossing. I actually have a device. It's called proclaim. I don't know if you know this. You Go in your mouth, gets scanned, and it's a mouthpiece that has a jet in between every single tooth. And so it is like high energy, high speed water pick flossing in 30 seconds. You put this in your mouth.

Gary Brecka (49:27)

I love it.

Peter Diamandis (49:28)

You put this in there. I know. You put this in your mouth. You know, you bite down like you would a mouth guard and like this whole container of water just gets pumped in through all of those and your mouth is, is clean. So I mean, it's amazing, right? And then there's another product, they changed the name recently, which is a toothbrush with a very similar structure, but it's with all of these brushes that you basically chomp down on it and it brushes everything. So, I mean, I remember I Knew Jeff Bezos 45 years ago and when he was purely a space cadet before Amazon. And then he and I reconnected and I was talking to him about X Prize in space and all. And one day I said, hey, is there any chance you can come and speak at space? This event is like 20 years ago. And he goes, peter, I'm so short on time. I'm trying to optimize my, my toothbrush time, my toothbrushing time. And I said, okay, I get that. But this is what you're actually doing. You're able to like, you know, take those. Yeah, 15 minutes, 10 minutes. And make them much more efficient. The technology is there.

Gary Brecka (50:35)

Technology.

Peter Diamandis (50:35)

But more importantly, going to a biological dentist to check out the floor and floor on your mouth.

Gary Brecka (50:42)

Highly recommended. So, so then this tooth, which I'm waiting on, he, he also pulled this one, cleaned it out. Red light, ozone gas.

Peter Diamandis (50:50)

Yes, exactly.

Gary Brecka (50:51)

Which is wild. When they take the tooth out, it doesn't even bleed. And that's a bad sign. And so he runs the ozone gas and the red light and, and increases the perimeter of, of the hole until you get fresh red blood. Then he packs your own platelet rich fibrin in there, you know, your own, your own platelets. And he puts the stitches it shut, the bone grows shut. And then he puts the. Believe it's a porcelain implant. I mean, he doesn't use any metal. And now I just got to go back up and have the two put on there. But I think it's one of the best things I ever did. And I just can't believe that. That just flew by me. But he also uses red light. The full red light bed, but he uses those red light.

Peter Diamandis (51:31)

It's about 13 years ago. I had my two kids, my two boys. And I remember at that moment in time, I made a decision to double down on my health. Without question. I wanted to see their kids, their grandkids, and really, you know, during this extraordinary time where the space frontier and AI and crypto is all exploding, it was like the most exciting time ever to be alive. And I made a decision to double down on my health. And I've done that in three key areas. The first is going every year for a Fountain upload. You know, Fountain is one of the most advanced diagnostics and therapeutics companies. I go there, upload myself, digitize myself, about 200 gigabytes of data that the AI system is able to look at to catch disease at inception. You know, look for any cardiovascular, any cancer, neurodegenerative disease, any metabolic disease. These things are all going on all the time. And you can prevent them if you can find them at inception. So super important. So Fountain is one of my keys. I make that available to the CEOs of all my companies, my family members, because health is a new wealth. But beyond that, we are a collection of 40 trillion human cells and about another 100 trillion bacterial cells, fungi, viri, and we don't understand how that impacts us. I use a company and a product called Viome. Viome has a technology called Metatranscriptomics. It was actually developed, developed in New Mexico, the same place where the nuclear bomb was developed as a biodefense weapon. And their technology is able to help you understand what's going on in your body, to understand which bacteria are producing which proteins. And as a consequence of that, what foods are your superfoods that are best for you to eat, or what foods should you avoid? What's going on in your oral microbiome? So I use their testing to understand my foods, understand my medicines, understand my supplements. And Viome really helps me understand from a biological and data standpoint what's best for me. And then finally, you know, feeling good, being intelligent, moving well is critical. But looking good when you look yourself in the mirror, saying, you know, I feel great about life is so important, right? And so a product I use every day, twice a day, is called One Skin, developed by four incredible PhD women that found this 10amino acid peptide that's able to zap senile cells in your skin and really help you stay youthful in your look and appearance. So for me, these are three technologies I love and I use all the time. I'll have my team link to those in the show notes down below. Please check them out. Anyway, I hope you enjoyed that. Now back to the episode. Let's jump into saunas. You know, I just bought a, a portable infrared sauna which is, you know, the size of a chair that I can hop into.

Gary Brecka (54:43)

You just kind of zip it up.

Peter Diamandis (54:44)

You, you zip it up. But I mean this is a full on sauna. Talk to me about your sauna practices.

Gary Brecka (54:49)

So sauna is, is one of the best ways to activate your detoxification pathways. You know, if you talk to any functional medicine practitioner where they're trying to detox somebody from anything, mold, mycotoxins, pathogens, you know, bacteria, metals, they will tell you that sauna and sweating, both infrared and near infrared, I mean, sorry, both infrared and dry sauna is, has to be a part of your, your regular routine. So I'll usually put a liter of fluid through myself after I get out of the sauna. I have a dry sauna. I, I actually have my parents who've been staying with me for several weeks. Yeah, you did. That's right. They were there when you're there. They're still staying with me. So Captain John Brecka and Judy Brea. Mom has bilateral knee replacements and dad had a very bad boating accident years ago which left him with hemiparalysis on one side of his body. So both of them are rather deconditioned from a physical standpoint. And so I was following Dr. Otto Warburg's work in multi step oxygen therapy or EWAT exercise with oxygen therapy. And since it's difficult for them to get their heart rate up, I'll put both of them in the sauna and I'll run a nasal cannulus under the door and, and they'll just breathe high ppm oxygen for about 20 minutes. And the difference in their cognitive function, even, even immediately after getting out of the sauna, they would both tell you is, is, is night and day. My mom's a chatterbox and so is my dad. You just feel clear and clean and cognizant awake. So my wife and I do sauna regularly and, and now how long, how.

Peter Diamandis (56:27)

Many days a week?

Gary Brecka (56:28)

20 minutes minimum, three times a week. It's just something we really like to do. It's right next to our bathroom. And so she and I will very often end the day in there together and, and they'll get out of the sauna and I'll do just a 20 or 30 second cold plunge. Not a long cold plus plunge, but a 20 or 30 second cold plunge and I'll dry off. And you know, that's proved to be quite the little sleep hack for me, I mean, people could do it with a contrast shower too. Hot shower followed by cold shower. Especially if you're one of those people that ruminates. If your environment quiets and your mind wakes up and you have ruminating thoughts, or you just replay the day, or you go through your grocery list and all of that. But sauna is excellent for detoxification and steam room. So steam room is.

Peter Diamandis (57:13)

If you had to choose between sauna and steam room.

Gary Brecka (57:15)

If I had to choose between sauna and steamer, I would probably choose sauna. And here's why. I think most commercial steam rooms are not filtering the municipal water when they bring it into the steam room. So you're vaporizing chlorine gas, fluoride gas, microplastics, pharmaceuticals, polyfluoro alkyls, these pfas, which are very, very high in the municipal water supply in Miami. So unless you are still certain that they are running that through, preferably like a forge stage reverse osmosis filter or some other type of, of micron filtration, which I do at the house, I don't trust a lot of steam rooms. So my preference is not to breathe vaporized fluoride and chlorine, but, but it can be even more effective at heating the body up than sauna. Remember, water is 29 times more thermogenic than air. Yes.

Peter Diamandis (58:03)

And what you mean by that is its ability to take away or provide heat.

Gary Brecka (58:08)

Yeah, that's right. Like you can die in 72 degree water heat capacity. You can't, you can't get hypothermia in 72 degree air. Right. Your body can maintain the temperature gradient. So I have both steam and sauna, but I, I actually use a reverse osmosis and charcoal filter.

Peter Diamandis (58:23)

I saw it, I saw the closet.

Gary Brecka (58:24)

Yeah. And then I have another step down filter. Like I'm such a psycho, but. And then that's a cold plunge. That's one of my favorites. You know, here's the thing about cold plunging. I, you know, there's no evidence that I've seen that colder is better or longer is better. Three minutes minimum. Six minutes maximum. 50 degrees Fahrenheit is plenty. You know, you get a peripheral vasoconstriction which, you know, drives all the blood into the core, liver, lungs, pancreas, kidneys, up to the brain. You also get a really interesting activation of brown fat, which is different than, than white fat. It's, it exchanges a, it's our thermostat, you know, essentially exchanges a calorie for a measure of heat. So you mean to tell me that when I get cold my body's going to use calories and turn it into heat? Yes. There is a cost to having your body temperature return to normal. Let's not forget, if you're in 50 degree water and you get out and you're in 70 degree air, your body's still going back to 98.6. So how, how does your body continue to raise your, your temperature? There's a cost to that. It's not free. And the cost is calories, increased caloric expenditure and, and so brown fat turns calories into heat.

Peter Diamandis (59:33)

But what, and by the way, one of the things that I think is important is these small hacks of increasing your, your caloric expenditure.

Gary Brecka (59:42)

Right.

Peter Diamandis (59:42)

So I'm gonna point out those who are joining us on, on YouTube here. Gary's wearing this beautiful little vest that looks like it's just a normal vest, but it's a, it's a 10 pound.

Gary Brecka (59:53)

10 pound or 10 kilogram, it's 10, 10 pounds.

Peter Diamandis (59:55)

10 pound vest.

Gary Brecka (59:57)

10 kilograms I'd probably notice. But yeah, 10 pound vest.

Peter Diamandis (59:59)

And I tried it on and it really felt, you know, slightly heavier.

Gary Brecka (60:06)

Yeah, it was like, it feels kind of snug. If you ever use a weighted blanket, feels good.

Peter Diamandis (60:10)

And you said that, you know, your estimate on your particular muscle mass and caloric expenditure that you're thinking wearing this during the day.

Gary Brecka (60:18)

Close to 600 calories if I wear it, which is 10, 12 hours, which.

Peter Diamandis (60:22)

Like I said, it's a Big Mac.

Gary Brecka (60:23)

It's significant. Yeah. I don't say wear a weighted vest and get a Big Mac. But you know, I, I'm a big fan of rocking too. And you know, I've got the, I think it's rogue where you put the plates in the front and the plates in the back, but it kind of hangs over your shoulders.

Peter Diamandis (60:39)

That's a, a actually a large commitment.

Gary Brecka (60:42)

This was super easy, super bulky. These guys at AON A I O N, I think they pronounce it ion. They make these weighted vests that, that actually zip snug to your body you can use during workouts or they make these more decorative ones you can just wear. If you're just walking through the airport and, and it looks very translucent. I'm traveling, I'm just trying to bio stack things. I'm like, well, I'm going to be walking anyway, I might as well add weight. Yeah. You know, and by the way, one.

Peter Diamandis (61:07)

Of those, the mental hacks here and I keep on reminding people of this is it's like take the stairs instead of the escalator. You know, if you need to park. If you're having a difficulty finding a parking spot, park two blocks or three blocks away and think of it as free exercise. You're not paying a trainer to give you. Yeah, just those little.

Gary Brecka (61:26)

Yeah, my wife and I play that game at the airport. You know, we always try to find the stairs and not the escalator. What's amazing is they have this moving walkways, and they're actually called moving walkways, but people turn them into moving standways.

Peter Diamandis (61:36)

Yeah.

Gary Brecka (61:36)

And they just get on them and they just sort of ride, you know, and they get off and walk four feet to the other one.

Peter Diamandis (61:41)

Lazy bastards all.

Gary Brecka (61:42)

I actually love a good walk in the airport before I get on a plane because.

Peter Diamandis (61:45)

No, absolutely. And so I will not go on the moving walkways. I will actually try and keep up with everybody by walking faster on the side. So, cold plunge. You said something interesting a second ago, which is it doesn't have to be that cold. It doesn't have to be that long.

Gary Brecka (62:01)

So if quarter's not better, longer's not better. I mean, so if you, if you're in the shower.

Peter Diamandis (62:05)

In my typical practice. Because I don't have a cold plunge.

Gary Brecka (62:09)

I thought I just saw one out there.

Peter Diamandis (62:10)

Yeah, well, I do, but this is. I'm not always around here.

Gary Brecka (62:14)

Yeah.

Peter Diamandis (62:15)

At the studio. But there is. There's a. There's a sauna, a cold plunge right there. But I will, you know, take my hot shower and then for the last 60 seconds, take it to as cold as possible.

Gary Brecka (62:26)

Absolutely. That's the other thing. I mean, again, you know, all these modalities are great, but. But people can take Tupperware containers, freeze large blocks of ice in their. In their freezer, throw them in their bathtub. It's good for about three days. If you cut a couple of these big blocks, your water will stay cold for three days, you know, and it's a great way to make a cold plunge because, you know, even if you're just buying ice from 7 11, eventually that's. That. That adds up. So you can. You can freeze.

Peter Diamandis (62:52)

That's a great hack.

Gary Brecka (62:53)

Yeah, you freeze these and you drop them in. You know, just like I said, you. You can access a lot of these modalities. You know, sunlight, grounding, breath work, you know, cold plunge for little or next to nothing. But the other thing that, you know, I was about to mention was the release of something called cold shock proteins, which are specialized proteins released from your liver. There's a lot of research now looking at cold shock proteins and a lot of these benefits. And there's a few in particular, LIN28A and Lynn Kefal LIN28B, which are implicated in the improvement of insulin resistance. So making you more sensitive to insulin, they scour the body of free radical oxidation. There's some evidence that they improve protein synthesis, you know, the rate of muscle repair. And so just think, in three minutes, you get a dopamine spike, a peripheral vasoconstriction, you know, a, an activation of brown fat and a release of cold shock proteins. Three minutes and get out. I mean, and that's why you feel. I call it my drug of choice because you, you, you feel so good for so long. Yeah. And, and you don't have to get into 35 degree water and you don't have to go for 12 minutes. I see people on online, you know, going underwater with snorkels in 37 degree weather.

Peter Diamandis (64:09)

It's a macho move.

Gary Brecka (64:10)

I'm like, man, that's just not a good idea. Your brain's only this far inside the surface of your skull.

Peter Diamandis (64:14)

All right, so I want to talk about hyperbaric oxygen because I've seen and heard miraculous results and, and mixed results.

Gary Brecka (64:24)

And I'll tell you where that's coming from.

Peter Diamandis (64:26)

And, and so there's, there's a therapeutic level and a hobbyist level.

Gary Brecka (64:31)

Right.

Peter Diamandis (64:32)

So let's talk.

Gary Brecka (64:33)

So this is a hobbyist version. I actually have one of these soft shell chambers.

Peter Diamandis (64:37)

1.3 atmospheres.

Gary Brecka (64:39)

It goes to about 1.3, 1.4. The hobbyists will go around 1.3 atm atmospheres, which is good. But as I've gone deep down the rabbit hole of hyperbaric, and I'm sold on hyperbaric, I'm actually building my podcast studio inside of a hyperbaric right now. So February, middle of February, I'll have the first ever podcast studio inside of a hyperbaric.

Peter Diamandis (65:01)

I'm coming back on your show.

Gary Brecka (65:02)

You're on the ultimate human. We're going to be doing in a hyperbaric. But if you look at the majority of the research on hyper varic oxygen therapy, it's done at 2 atmospheres or greater.

Peter Diamandis (65:12)

Yes.

Gary Brecka (65:13)

What I found, sadly, is that most of the soft shell chambers will borrow that research, you know, as outcomes for soft shell chambers. Now I have a soft shell chamber. I'm not on those guys, but you know, mimics deep sleep. It can actually be not a replacement for, but an adjunct to, you know, poor sleep. My, my wife all the time. She does not get a good night's sleep. She'll wake up and she'll go spend an hour in the hyperbaric, breathe 92-95:02 through a nasal canvas, and then you are switched on. If you've ever done hyperbaric therapy, even at 1.3 atmospheres, you feel amazing after you get out of there. And you, you've, you've been breathing that oxygen, but the compressed gas at, at, at 2 atmospheres. And I've just started to go way down the rabbit hole in hyperbaric oxygen therapy. I have one of the top experts in the world come into the house to help me design some protocols, because my, my concern is that I become adaptive, right? And, you know, we can adapt to altitude. We could also adapt to hyp hyperoxemia. And I also use hydrogen tablets to offset the oxidative, you know, free radicals from hydrogen, which is one of the.

Peter Diamandis (66:29)

Question I was going to ask, because you're driving oxygen, which is an oxidative force in.

Gary Brecka (66:34)

It is. Yeah, it is an oxidative stressor. And so, But a hydrogen gas offsets that. So I do another one of those hydrogen bombs, you know, four or five of those H2 tabs, I'll drop those in water, I'll put down 750 milliliters of water, and then I get in a hyperbaric. And, man, I'm telling you, you feel like you took a limitless pill. You're so cognizant, so clear, so awake, so alert. It comes very close to mimicking deep sleep. And so if you're sleep deprived, you know, hyperbaric, it's excellent for wound healing, it's excellent for circulation, it's excellent for cognitive function. I put both of my parents in a hyperbaric chamber. I'm super excited about the podcast studio. This will have, you know, AI.

Peter Diamandis (67:17)

I mean, I don't know why you don't sleep in there.

Gary Brecka (67:19)

Michael Jackson used to sleep well.

Peter Diamandis (67:22)

He's not doing so well right now.

Gary Brecka (67:23)

He's not doing so good.

Peter Diamandis (67:24)

But, but interestingly enough, I was in Israel. I met the team that did.

Gary Brecka (67:27)

That's where all the good work and good cognitive function work.

Peter Diamandis (67:32)

Yeah, and a whole slew of different repairs. Like, if you've ever had a, if you've had a stroke, if you've had any kind of neurodegenerative disease, it really is stimulating neuronal growth in an amazing fashion. But my concern is their work is premised on a significant amount of time in those hyperbaric Chambers. And you know, I'm stealing. I'm going back to Jeff Bezos is. I'm trying to optimize my toothbrushing time right now.

Gary Brecka (68:00)

Well, that's why I built the studio in the Hyperbaric, because I was like.

Peter Diamandis (68:03)

Not everybody, not everybody can do that. I don't know that I have an hour. And if I had an extra hour, I don't know that I would spend it like this.

Gary Brecka (68:10)

I wouldn't either. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't say, you know, a hyperbaric would, Would. Would make my.

Peter Diamandis (68:17)

Now if I, God forbid I should, you know, have had a stroke or something, then I'm all in. It's like getting 100, getting your.

Gary Brecka (68:27)

Or if, you know, post surgical recovery. This is also one of my favorites.

Peter Diamandis (68:31)

Hocat. What's the hocat stand?

Gary Brecka (68:32)

So that's a hyperthermic oxygen carbonic acid transdermal therapy. So it's a mouthful, but basically a hocad is transdermal ozone.

Peter Diamandis (68:42)

Okay.

Gary Brecka (68:43)

So ozone can be infused into the bloodstream transdermally. You know, I mean it'd be huge fan of ozone, mold, mycotoxins, metals, glyphosate.

Peter Diamandis (68:57)

I remember during COVID one of the phys, one of the many effective therapies I had iv. I. My. You take my blood out, circulate it with. With ozone and then put it back in.

Gary Brecka (69:09)

Yeah, yeah. So. So there's multiple ways you could do ozone. You know, you could just take an ozonation ozonator and, and put it. The air into a syringe and you can hang an IV bag below the level of the heart, allow the blood to drain into a sterile IV bag and then add the ozone gas to the IV or to. To the blood. You'll see the blood go from like a cabernet wine to a bright red as. As red blood cells take up that oxygen and then you can infuse that back in. Now ozone's O3. So. So there's an oxygen, it's an O2.

Peter Diamandis (69:43)

It is the ultimate oxidator.

Gary Brecka (69:45)

It is the ultimate oxidator. And that third oxygen molecule is one of the most reactive species.

Peter Diamandis (69:50)

No, it's like, it's like a missile.

Gary Brecka (69:52)

To free radicals in oxidation. And so, you know, we happen to live in the mold capital of the world, you know, in Miami. And. And so I don't think I've seen anything as effective for mold toxicity as ozone. And then you can do what's called 10 pass ozone, which is. Which is where it's pulled into a glass vial and, and agitated with ozone and put back in. And pulled out and put back in. There's a very advanced form of ozone called EBO2.

Peter Diamandis (70:23)

I haven't heard about that.

Gary Brecka (70:24)

So EBO2 is extra blood, corporal ozone.

Peter Diamandis (70:29)

But it sound, it sounds actually what I like what I did during, during.

Gary Brecka (70:33)

COVID If it had a filter, that's what it was. So, so essentially the blood comes out, it comes out of one arm, it goes back in the arm, it comes out, it goes through a filter. And this is a filter that's designed to remove BPAs, these bisphenols. It will remove mold spores, mycotoxins. It will also alter. Remove metals. It'll remove microplastics and, and glyphosate. And as it passes through the filter, it's also ozonated and the ozone gas is added to that and then it's circulated around and comes back in. Sometimes they also pass it, pass it through a light filter. But. So EBO2 is probably in my opinion the most advanced. If you have a mold, mycotoxin, metals, something like that, and you can't get down to Tijuana to do like an exterra blood filter, then, you know, EBO2 is a great choice. That machine, the previous one you were showing will. Okay, Will, actually, so what that does, those doors close, they close around your neck and it will steam you up like a, like a steam room. And then it will release ozone gas into the chamber first. It releases CO2 gas. CO2 is. Carbon dioxide is the main vasodilator in the human body. People think it's nitric oxide. It's not. Nitric oxide is actually a caustic gas because it competes for oxygen. I wouldn't take any kind of nitric oxide supplement on purpose, but the reason why we get vascular during.

Peter Diamandis (71:59)

You wouldn't do nitric oxide tablets for increasing NO2 in your, in your vaso, your vascular system?

Gary Brecka (72:10)

No, never, Never on purpose. I mean, there's a great book called the Ultimate Guide to Methylene Blue. He goes deep down the rabbit hole of nitric oxide as an, an oxidative free radical and then also its implication in all kinds of neuropathic disorders, including Alzheimer's, early onset dementia, cognitive decline, autism, all learning disabilities. The, the, you know, nitric oxide will compete with cytochrome C oxidase for oxygen. And so anytime we are depriving the, depriving the mitochondria of, of oxygen, that's. It's a bad thing. We. In fact, when, when, when you do red Light, you release the nitric oxide, which will go into the. The vascular wall and. And cause a. We say vasodilation. It's really a vasorelaxation effect in the arterial wall. So you do get some increased circulation, but you also get the benefit of the oxygen. But this will. This has also rife frequency in it. So you put your feet on rife frequency plates and you can select different modalities. So you could select, you know, thyroid, immune system adenoids, what have you. But it runs carbon dioxide to dilate the blood vessels and dilate your pores, and then it will run transdermal ozone, and that goes right. Transdermal right into the bloodstream. And I'm telling you, that will shift you from a sympathetic to a parasympathetic state like nothing you've ever done in your life. You are so relaxed. Relaxed and Zen getting out of that thing.

Peter Diamandis (73:41)

That's great. All right, we got the Balancer Pro here.

Gary Brecka (73:45)

Those are just very expensive compression gear, but they work.

Peter Diamandis (73:49)

Okay, so this is a vascular muscular compression.

Gary Brecka (73:52)

Yeah. So this is mainly lymphatic compression. You know, a lot of the compression gear, people think that the more pressure, the better. And that's absolutely not the case with, with lymphatic circulation. You know, there's. There's no pressure again behind the lymphatic system. It's a static system. So it needs muscular contraction in order for it to flow. So it needs motion and activity. So these balancer pros, they'll start at your feet and they'll. They'll actually. And very rhythmically and gently, and the pressure will slowly increase. They will push all of the lymphatic fluid up.

Peter Diamandis (74:21)

Like toothpaste through.

Gary Brecka (74:23)

Yeah, like toothpaste through a tube. Yeah.

Peter Diamandis (74:26)

All right. Pemf. Pulsed Electromagnetic Field Therapy. People swear by it.

Gary Brecka (74:33)

I swear by it, yeah. My, I have one of my. SO pms. Pulse Electromagnetic Field. So this is one of those modalities where you can use high frequency pmf, which, it could actually cause a muscle contraction and, and is really good for muscle spasms, you know, muscle soreness, recovering from joint injuries. But as a daily modality, you want to use something called a low gauss pdmf. Gaus, which is a current measurement similar to the surface of the earth. Has a logo.

Peter Diamandis (75:04)

It's a magnetic field.

Gary Brecka (75:06)

Yeah, magnetic field, Sorry. Measure.

Peter Diamandis (75:08)

And does this go under your. Under your sheets of your bed?

Gary Brecka (75:11)

Yeah. So you can put it right under the sheets of your bed. You pull the sheets over top of it. I'm an eight Sleep mattress. It'll blast right through that. And what it will do is it'll just run a low gauss current through the body through Logos field. Sorry, through the body. And what this low gas field does, and you can measure this, you could dark field your blood. You can just like you can measure the outcome of red light bed. You can actually do nitric oxide strip testing before you get in and before you. And when you get out and you can prove that your red light bed is working. You know, you get in before you get in the red light bed, just put a nitric oxide test strip in your mouth, which you can get for like six bucks on Amazon. It'll be like a pale pink.

Peter Diamandis (75:48)

Yeah.

Gary Brecka (75:49)

And then you'll lay in the bed for 15 or 20 minutes, wait about 10 or 15 minutes and do it again, and you'll see that your nitric oxide levels.

Peter Diamandis (75:56)

Nice. I had those bedside.

Gary Brecka (75:58)

Yeah, but, but this will, what this will do is repolarize the surface of your cells. So if you. I think they call it rulo. When they, when the red blood cells start to stack and stick together, when, when, when cellular surfaces have similar charges, they repel. When they have opposite charges, they attract. Everywhere that they touch, you lose surface area to exchange with the outside environment. So now you're comparing this cell's capacity to eliminate waste or repair or detoxify or regenerate. So what, what a pulsed electromagnetic field will do is it will restore that surface polarity. And you can see this pre and post pmf, by the way. You can see it pre and post grounding as well. People think that grounding and earthing is, is like voodoo science. It's not. If you can't, if you don't have the budget for a PEMF mat, take your shoes off and touch the surface of the earth.

Peter Diamandis (76:46)

Yeah. What does one of these put? Sent you back here.

Gary Brecka (76:49)

So this one will run you about five grand. But it really works. Works. If you look at the coils, they go from the top to the bottom. Yeah.

Peter Diamandis (76:56)

So I have a eight sleep mattress. And this will, this goes underneath the.

Gary Brecka (77:02)

It'll go right under the eight sleep. Because the eight sleep, the thing I love about the eight sleep, there's no emf. And that's just the coils in the bed. I get markedly better sleep when I use the, the eight sleep too. And again, like you, I'm just trying to condense time. Like how can I bio stack these accounts? Lay down. I can run pulse, electromagnet, magnetic field, which is mimicking this Will be on.

Peter Diamandis (77:21)

My survival my buy list after this.

Gary Brecka (77:23)

Yeah.

Peter Diamandis (77:23)

Yeah for sure.

Gary Brecka (77:24)

And. And then the. And then the eight sleep. But these are. These are. These low gauss current mats are. Are phenomenal for. For restoring cellular polarity.

Peter Diamandis (77:37)

Fantastic. I'll just add a few of these. I'm usually. I'm usually wearing a continuous glucose monitor and it's not.

Gary Brecka (77:46)

It drove me crazy when I wore CGMs.

Peter Diamandis (77:48)

It's for no other reason than to gamify what I eat. That's basically it.

Gary Brecka (77:54)

Have you gotten used to seeing what causes.

Peter Diamandis (77:56)

Yeah. So it's. I. My game is. And so you know, I'm not wearing it today. I should have but the battery ran out two days ago. I've got a stack. I moved out of my house because of the. You know, the fires.

Gary Brecka (78:09)

Wow.

Peter Diamandis (78:09)

Oh yeah. No, I was on the edge of the Santa Monica and Pacific Pacific Palisade. So the house is now I've been out of it for three weeks and we have remediation to get all the. The smoke there out. Anyway, long story short so a lot of my stuff is. Is there but I wear it simply to see how low I can keep my blood glucose from spiking throughout the day. I mean that's basically it. And it's fun to see that and fun to play that game.

Gary Brecka (78:40)

Yeah. And do you see what happens if you eat high glycemic carbs? Yeah.

Peter Diamandis (78:43)

It's like.

Gary Brecka (78:44)

It's like I just not worth it.

Peter Diamandis (78:45)

It's interesting right. Because I will say okay, if I eat that I'm going to spike it and I'm not going to be happy about that. So it just creates a hack.

Gary Brecka (78:51)

Yeah.

Peter Diamandis (78:52)

It's like we'll talk about the Oura ring in a second which I'm wearing and the only. You know or an aura ring is not going to help you get to sleep better. But it. At the. In the at night when I'm going to sleep I know if I. So I've pretty much given up most alcohol. I'll have like a sip of red wine, something like that. But if I should ever drink a glass of alcohol my aura score will. Will plummet.

Gary Brecka (79:15)

Or if I go to sleep so true.

Peter Diamandis (79:17)

If I go to sleep late it will plummet. So CGM for me it's super easy fun gamify what I eat. Here's the aura ring I got last night in preparation for you. I got like one of my. My high scores at 95.

Gary Brecka (79:32)

You did? Nice.

Peter Diamandis (79:33)

So one of the things that's interesting that's what I. When I get here, here in.

Gary Brecka (79:37)

That's great. What time did you go to bed?

Peter Diamandis (79:40)

I went to bed at 8:45pm and I tell you, I tell you that is everything.

Gary Brecka (79:47)

It is everything.

Peter Diamandis (79:48)

It's, it's.

Gary Brecka (79:49)

It's how everything that we discussed.

Peter Diamandis (79:51)

Yes.

Gary Brecka (79:51)

Matters little compared to sleep.

Peter Diamandis (79:53)

And it's like when I go to sleep impacts everything fresh a day. And you know, I used to be a Nate. A night owl where I'd be up till midnight, one or two o' clock and you know, my wife and my friends like, you know, you don't go out and party with us. Well, you know, it's. Yes, true. But I get up at 5 and I write. And so last night I got hour and a half of REM and an hour and 15 of deep sleep.

Gary Brecka (80:19)

You get up and you write or you ride.

Peter Diamandis (80:20)

You said I write.

Gary Brecka (80:21)

Oh, you write.

Peter Diamandis (80:21)

Yeah, I write. It's like my first two hours are mine.

Gary Brecka (80:25)

So good.

Peter Diamandis (80:26)

But the Oura ring doesn't give you good night's sleep. It does gamify the fact that if I eat too late, if I drink too much water too late, I have to get up and urinate. If I go to sleep too late, if I drink, it's like I'm gonna have a shitty score in the morning.

Gary Brecka (80:43)

Yeah. You know that if you eat too close to bedtime, if you drink at all, you know, any of those things.

Peter Diamandis (80:49)

So have you. So I get a sleep score on my eight sleep mattress as well. My eight sleep always gives me hundreds. My aura ring is a harder greater.

Gary Brecka (80:58)

Yeah, same with, Same with whoop. It's usually, they're usually within. I wear a whoop. I. I actually am charging it right now. Yeah, the. I think aura and whoop both do the same thing. You can disconnect the Bluetooth at night and then it will upload in the morning, which I like.

Peter Diamandis (81:13)

Yeah.

Gary Brecka (81:14)

But the, the eight sleep is always slightly better than my whoop. But usually is not demonstratively. It's like 96.97, 96, 98.

Peter Diamandis (81:24)

It. I feel like it's A grades on a higher curve.

Gary Brecka (81:26)

Okay.

Peter Diamandis (81:28)

But I was like, was like one of the earliest investors in Aura when it first came out. And the Oura ring used to be this giant like scarab size thing on your.

Gary Brecka (81:36)

Yeah, they're beautiful. That's it right there.

Peter Diamandis (81:38)

Yeah. I mean this is, this is the gen 3 that's out now, but when you think about the amount of integrated electronics and circuitry in there.

Gary Brecka (81:47)

Right.

Peter Diamandis (81:48)

And battery life, it's got four or five days of battery. It's got a multitude of sensors and lasers and Bluetooth. I mean it is amazing. It's the beginning of what we're going to see in the, in the wearables revolution.

Gary Brecka (82:02)

Well, when this integrates with labs, you know, genetic testing, you know, you know, body scans, all of these different modalities, when AI is able to pull all of that into one, one place. You know, the thing I, I'm really a fan of wearables for is, you know, aura. Whoop. These guys can do studies that I think are more important than individual randomized clinical trials. Because when you take, you know, six people or eight people and you send them to the University of Miami to do a sleep study and they walk into a sterile room that's like two clicks shy of a jail cell, you put the monitors all over their body and you tell them to go to sleep. Versus you get a thousand people or five thousand or ten thousand people to opt into a study with whoop or with aura. And you're studying them in their own environment or in their own family, sleeping in their own bed and you know, in their own habitual pattern. I think you get better data.

Peter Diamandis (82:58)

You do. It's amazing. And I've got, you know, eventually there'll be implantables. I've got a. If you feel this right over here, there's a. Oh wow. A little glass capsule in there.

Gary Brecka (83:10)

Well, you're next level. What is that? Dude, what is going on there?

Peter Diamandis (83:13)

That's my business card.

Gary Brecka (83:14)

Yeah. Is it really?

Peter Diamandis (83:16)

Yeah, I've been chipped first.

Gary Brecka (83:18)

Really?

Peter Diamandis (83:18)

So I was on stage, I was in stage in, in Amsterdam at a singular university event and the guy was there showing the future of implantables. This is like God, 12 years ago, really early on.

Gary Brecka (83:32)

That's how long that's been.

Peter Diamandis (83:33)

Yeah, it's been in there. And so it's a, it's a non bioreactive glass and inside is a near field reading device. So a nrf. And it's like when you chip a dog, you know, and you can read. That's what this had my business card on it. But eventually it will be measuring everything. Not, you know, not on the surface, but subdermally. And so these are coming. My venture fund, we've invested in a number of these.

Gary Brecka (84:02)

Really? Yeah. That's so fascinating.

Peter Diamandis (84:04)

Tonal. You know, I love the device for its ease of use and it's all about consistency. It's all about consistency. You know, I use an in body. I mean, I love the device to measure Your. Yeah. And again it's gamified. So last year I focused on adding 10 pounds of mass, muscle mass. And it was like consistency in the gym. Five days if I could. Six days creatine, 150 grams of protein because I weigh 150 pounds. And it was like just measure, measure, measure, measure, measure. To play that game.

Gary Brecka (84:36)

Yeah.

Peter Diamandis (84:37)

And you have to want to play the game.

Gary Brecka (84:38)

Yeah. But you also have to enjoy it. And you got to have the, the, you got to have trackable things to track it. Like this.

Peter Diamandis (84:44)

Yeah. And then I love my sleep. My Manta sleep mask. This is the.

Gary Brecka (84:49)

I use one.

Peter Diamandis (84:49)

There are three versions of it. This is the most advanced version with a, with speakers in it. I actually don't use. This one's a little bit heavier, but I can't sleep without it.

Gary Brecka (85:01)

I can't sleep without a sleep mask either.

Peter Diamandis (85:03)

I also use a. I don't have it on the list here, but a mandibular advancement device. It is a upper and lower device that moves the jaw forward. The mandible that opens up the airway keeps me from grinding my teeth. And the oura ring, the Manta, the H sleep. Those are my sleep kit.

Gary Brecka (85:25)

I feel like I am just throwing as many hacks as.

Peter Diamandis (85:27)

But I, it's like I travel with this stuff.

Gary Brecka (85:29)

Yeah.

Peter Diamandis (85:30)

And my slippers, got my slippers. I'm at home. And that's. You know, we talked about the cooling mattress and it's really for me maintaining that body temperature at, you know, I put it.

Gary Brecka (85:46)

I'm fascinated by how much of an impact just slight changes in temperature variation have at holding you into. Because I noticed I will sleep the same length of time, but my REM and deep scores will not be as much. And when I look back at what the eight sleep is doing, changing its temperature to hold you in deep sleep, to hold you in REM sleep. I mean honestly, how it even knows that is wild to me. But it, you know, my, my whoop will validate that you know as well.

Peter Diamandis (86:17)

And people should know. On your sleep there are two important phases, right. There's your deep sleep, which typically occurs in the first half of your night sleep cycle. And your deep sleep is where your glymphatic system is clearing proteins, toxic proteins in your brain. And if you have to choose, deep sleep is, I think more critically important for our long term health. REM is where you're consolidating memories and REM will typically occur at the later stage of your sleep cycle. So if you are getting good deep sleep, but you wake up four hours after you start, you might get an hour. I try and get at least an hour of deep sleep and at least an hour of REM sleep is my goal. And it's hard to control that. The only way I control it is no alcohol, no food for a couple hours before and getting asleep early. And when I do that, I'm typically getting to that great cycle. But if I wake up after a shortened sleep, the deep sleep is there, but the REM has been eliminated. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I'd like to wrap with a conversation on a technology that, that we're both passionate about, which came out of DARPA called Xterra.

Gary Brecka (87:37)

Yes.

Peter Diamandis (87:37)

And their filter. Let's. So I'm going to have Xterra on stage with me at the Abundance Summit, you know, this year for the first time. So every year at the Abundance Summit, which I hold in March, I've got a day on AI, a day on exponential technologies, a day on moonshots, a day on longevity. And this is the first year that I'm really going from a focus on diagnostics to a focus on advanced therapeutics. I mean the tech to enable you to extend your life and to really cure, prevent diseases is finally coming online right now.

Gary Brecka (88:15)

I'm a huge believer in the exterior.

Peter Diamandis (88:17)

Yeah.

Gary Brecka (88:18)

So talk about it, please. So I did a podcast with Dr. Mink Chawla.

Peter Diamandis (88:23)

Yeah, the CMO Chief Medical Officer.

Gary Brecka (88:24)

Yeah, he's the chief medical officer there. And it's worth a watch. If and please.

Peter Diamandis (88:29)

Then the ultimate human podcast.

Gary Brecka (88:32)

Yeah, the ultimate human podcast. But so Dr. Charles, a nephrologist, he was an IC ICU septic specialist. You know, one of the challenges in ICU is that people get sepsis. It's pretty common. You're bacteria in your blood, Bacteria in your blood.

Peter Diamandis (88:46)

Very painful, very dangerous, very dangerous.

Gary Brecka (88:49)

I mean sometimes not painful because you're not conscious, but you know, but, but very, very dangerous nonetheless. And, and a part of what happens is can shut your kidneys down. So he was nephrologist, so obviously he's been studying how the blood is filtered throughout, throughout his entire career. He's also published some unearthly amount of, of peer reviewed studies. It's well in excess of 100.

Peter Diamandis (89:08)

And he's a sweetheart guy.

Gary Brecka (89:10)

He's a sweetheart of a guy. I mean he's one literally one of my favorite humans. And I've been talking to him about spike protein detox. But and so this filtration system that, that he's co developed has not just filters which Most filters are filter based on size. Right. So that, so a filter will be a step down filter will have progressively decreasing size pores that things can get through. Yeah, exactly. And so you're filtering things out by size, but when you're, when you're filtering the blood and you're filtering it by size, like you want to get down to the size of the micron size of a virus. Well, now you're going to take platelets and you're going to take all kinds of growth factors, you're going to take all kinds of useful stuff, useful things out of the bloodstream. So you, what you'd prefer to do is creating a binding affinity and if you could, you know, selectively create an affinity that attracted things like viruses, mycotoxins, circulating tumor cells, which is fascinating to me that you can get circulating tumor cells, bisphenols, microplastics, and you could create this binding affinity. And, and essentially what these heparin binding sites do, you know, aside from increase the surface area inside this filter, is they sort of mimic the wall of the artery. The glycocalyx.

Peter Diamandis (90:33)

The glycocalyx, yes.

Gary Brecka (90:35)

And so which a lot of pathogens have a natural affinity for because that's how you leave the blood and enter the tissue.

Peter Diamandis (90:42)

The way when he was speaking at my Longevity Platinum trip, he said, listen, you typically have these things that are circulating through your blood and if they're trying to attack you, they need to attach to the surface of the blood vessel and then enter through that. And our blood vessels are coated with this glycocalyx, this large protein structure. And he built this filter, he called it the Sephora Serif. Serif. Serif filter. And the number I remember, it's a tennis court size surface area of this glycocalyx protein that your blood flows through. And so if your blood has any kind of viruses and we are constantly building up these viral loads.

Gary Brecka (91:30)

Thousand percent. I mean, crazy. You know, we were talking before the podcast and I'm a big fan of this sort of emerging viewpoint that aging is this process of immunofatigue.

Peter Diamandis (91:41)

Yes, Immuno exhaustion is immuno exhaustion.

Gary Brecka (91:43)

Yeah. So it's, you know, the immune system is just fighting on too many fronts. You know, eventually we're, we're sort of micro poisoning ourselves to death. We're bathing our cellular biology in this toxic soup. Even, even those of us that are trying our best not to. And if you could filter these pathogenic compounds, including a lot of the inflammatory compounds out of the human, out of the bloodstream. Now all of a sudden, you give your immune system a leg up, you know, so, you know, so mold, mycotoxins, viruses, you know, they have some really interesting data on long Covid. And you know, 27 million people report suffering from long Covid. They can filter long Covid out of your blood in two or three filters.

Peter Diamandis (92:27)

It's incredible.

Gary Brecka (92:28)

Astounding. That gives somebody their life back.

Peter Diamandis (92:30)

It does. And the way I think about it is the following. We are living in this world of embedded with viruses and we get a, we might get a cmv, we might get a Epstein barr virus.

Gary Brecka (92:50)

Shingles.

Peter Diamandis (92:50)

Yeah. All of these viruses, and they don't go away. They're embedded in your cell, in your.

Gary Brecka (92:56)

DNA, and they flare up, literally wound into your DNA.

Peter Diamandis (93:00)

And it turns out your innate immune system, your natural killer cells are there. And they have two primary functions. One is they're looking for cells infected by viruses and killing those cells. The other one is they're looking for.

Gary Brecka (93:16)

Cancer cells, the same circulating tumor cells. Yep.

Peter Diamandis (93:19)

And if you are bombarding your body with these embedded viruses that you're getting, and you get a cold and you get Covid on top of that, you exhaust it to the point where it can. Cannot battle on all these fronts.

Gary Brecka (93:32)

Right.

Peter Diamandis (93:33)

And so when you put one of these filters and you literally are taking the blood out of your body, you're filtering it over this tennis court, size of glycocalyx, all of those, those, you.

Gary Brecka (93:45)

Know, circulating tumor cells, pathogens get, get.

Peter Diamandis (93:49)

Pulled out and you return to your blood and then your immune system is like, ah, it's a field day. We're going to sweep up all the guys that are left.

Gary Brecka (93:56)

Yeah, I think it would be a great treatment to do. Before you did biologics. So if you were doing stem cells or exosomes or a natural killer cell treatment or one of the other advanced biologic treatments to actually have a clean slate.

Peter Diamandis (94:07)

Yes.

Gary Brecka (94:08)

You know, one of the things that we do for, you know, athletes and other folks that are leaving the country to go do stem cell treatments is we say, well, let's take 10 weeks and really get your blood as clean as we can. Right. Let's, let's lower.

Peter Diamandis (94:20)

Don't want to hit your body with stuff. Stem cell treatments. If you've got any kind of cancer in your body or anything that the stem cells could activate at continuous growth.

Gary Brecka (94:31)

And not only, not only that, you don't want to do it. If you have, you know, hyperinsulinemia, you know, a lot of pro inflammatory cytokines or, you know, very high C reactive protein, high homocysteine. These, you know, stem cells have an affinity to, for inflammation and you want, you want the inflammation to be in the areas where you need the stem cells to go to work, not just sort dispersing once they get to the, to the bloodstream.

Peter Diamandis (94:55)

Yeah, buddy. Tell everybody where they can find you.

Gary Brecka (94:59)

My first and last name. Just at Gary Breca on Instagram or at the Ultimate Human. My podcast is the Ultimate Human. I have a community. I write, I write a free newsletter every week. I write challenges and guides. I host free challenges about every other month. Cold plunge challenges, breathwork challenges, whole food challenges, gut challenges, all kinds of things.

Peter Diamandis (95:24)

And people go through a community with a community. Go through that challenge together.

Gary Brecka (95:27)

I, I have, I have a paid community that's 97 bucks a month. I do four private podcasts a month with that community. Do a lot of one on one like, you know, Q and A's. Bring lots of special guests on there. I've had Dana White, Jelly Roll, Stephen A. Smith, you know, lots and lots of fun folks on our challenges. I have a free challenge coming up in, in February, which is my morning routine challenge.

Peter Diamandis (95:50)

Nice.

Gary Brecka (95:51)

So we're going to go through the science of morning routines, the science of circadian rhythm. I stayed with them for three days. We're actually measuring sleep scores. It's a really, really cool, fun, active, engaged community.

Peter Diamandis (96:02)

And you know, listen, if you want to make a change in your life, doing this with a community is the number one way to do it. Yeah, for sure.

Gary Brecka (96:11)

And that's what we're trying to do it or that's what we are doing at. The Ultimate Human is just building a community and them the ultimate human VIPs. So you can go to theultimatehuman.com read, read what it would be like to become an ultimate human vip.

Peter Diamandis (96:25)

So I'm back in Miami. Date of February. The FII summit is happening down there. Yeah, I'm coming through to play with your toys.

Gary Brecka (96:33)

Let's do it, man. You'll get. We'll do a podcast in the hyperbaric chamber.

Peter Diamandis (96:38)

Oh, I love that.

Gary Brecka (96:40)

All right. Awesome, Peter.

Peter Diamandis (96:41)

All right. You are my friend.

Gary Brecka (96:43)

Thank you.

Peter Diamandis (96:43)

Take care, everybody. Live healthy.

Gary Brecka (96:58)

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