Celebrity Wife Goes On Divorce TV, Gaslights Husband 'Til He Admits He's Sick & Breaks Down

Summary

Moral Of The Story – Episode Summary

Podcast: Moral Of The Story
Host: Stephanie Soo
Episode Title: Celebrity Wife Goes On Divorce TV, Gaslights Husband 'Til He Admits He's Sick & Breaks Down
Release Date: October 19, 2025

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Overview

This episode is the wild finale (Part 3) of Stephanie Soo recounting the “most insane” couple from the Chinese reality divorce show, See You Again, to her husband. The episode dives deep into the toxic, tumultuous dynamic between Mai—a combative, often emotionally manipulative wife—and her husband Lee, a mild-mannered, emotionally resilient musician. Stephanie and her co-host dissect the layers of gaslighting, public drama, group discomfort, and ultimate exposure of deeply rooted personal traumas—all through the rollercoaster ride of this show.

The podcast maintains its characteristic blend of sharp humor, exasperated empathy, and raw, sometimes bewildered, emotional commentary. The “moral of the story,” as usual, is left open—there is none, but plenty to talk about.

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Key Discussion Points

The Setup: Three Couples, One Explosive Storyline

• See You Again is introduced as a Chinese reality “divorce show” featuring three celebrity couples on a cross-country road trip, forced to confront the ruins of their marriages in a mix of relationship challenges and therapy sessions ([04:46]).
• Stephanie immediately brands Yang Zi and Eva as the "truly insane" couple, but quickly pivots: “Don’t lump Eva in… It’s a crazy man doing crazy man shit” ([03:36]).
• Mai and Lee are spotlighted as the most dramatic, dysfunctional couple, overshadowing the relatively mundane and healthy-ish “chill couple.”

Mai & Lee’s Dysfunction: A Recap of Emotional Extremes

• Mai is characterized by her obsession with being right, penchant for sabotaging others, and lack of interest (even pride) in her husband’s life and passions ([05:11], [09:29]).
• Lee, meanwhile, is described as almost pathologically accommodating, repeatedly seeking reconciliation no matter how many times he’s rejected and humiliated.

Public Humiliation: The “Death Point” and Its Fallout

• The “death point” moment—where spouses pick their ‘ideal partner’ in public—turns catastrophic when Lee points to another man's wife. This triggers an avalanche of Mai's emotional retaliation and public breakdowns ([06:01]).

Head of Household: All Control, No Compromise

• A new challenge gives “head of household” cards to the less dominant spouse in each couple, aiming to shake up dynamics—but Mai immediately flouts Lee’s simple requests (“don’t be angry,” “make music with me”), ignoring both the exercise and the group’s purpose ([14:42]).
• Instead of using her couple’s car, Mai imposes herself on another couple’s vehicle, derailing the entire group's chance for private reflection ([15:51]-[18:45]).

“She fucks up everybody’s day. She fucks up the whole day for everyone.” – Stephanie, [18:46]

Emotional Manipulation & Gaslighting

• Lee reaches a breaking point, expressing willingness to get help due to Mai’s constant messaging that he’s the problem. Stephanie calls out the gaslighting: “She has gaslit him to the point where he thinks he’s mentally ill” ([11:02]).
• Mai’s refusal to engage in mutual understanding extends to both Lee and their children.
  • Notable moment: “Why do I need to understand my daughter?”—this is the ultimate trigger for netizens and podcast hosts alike ([88:21]).
• At every opportunity to connect, whether by writing about their feelings, sharing activities, or exchanging gifts, Mai is openly dismissive, competitive, and keeps score with other wives, always comparing and never satisfied ([24:26], [51:00]).

Group Dynamics: The Black Hole Effect

• Mai’s behavior saps energy from the whole group—other wives are forced into emotional support roles for her, which leaves everyone (including viewers and podcast hosts) “suffocating” ([33:20], [98:21]).
• Attempts to reason with Mai are likened to “talking to a wall” or “shouting into a black hole” ([23:05], [70:17]).

"The only way she communicates is just a string of rapid fire questions… never ‘this is how I feel.’” – [97:15]

Moments of Vulnerability and Explanations

• Lee’s breaking point and his emotional confession:
  • Expresses pain over how Mai treats their daughter, fearing a repeat of his own trauma ([94:25]).
  • He sobs: “My daughter is the same as me. She is my shadow… We understand each other” ([94:25]-[94:42]).
• Mai’s backstory emerges: She was adopted, which led to lifelong insecurity and a compulsive need to “provide value to never be discarded”—framing, if not excusing, her controlling and frugal behaviors ([107:39]).

Attempted Redemption and Closure

• Following widespread online outrage and cyberbullying, Mai addresses her behavior, referencing her adoption trauma and pledging self-improvement.
• The couple, despite everything, “choose each other” in the show’s climactic RV “divorce challenge” by stepping out and embracing ([111:25]).

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On the aftershocks of the “death point”:
  • “Mr. Lee pointed at somebody else’s wife. It did not go well. This was… the climax of the shit show.” – [06:01]
• On group frustration:
  • “She fucks up everybody’s day. She fucks up the whole day for everyone.” – Stephanie, [18:46]
• Mai’s competitiveness:
  • “Your gift is the most expensive one.” (after being told another wife got a jade necklace) – Mai, [50:24]
• The black hole analogy:
  • “People are saying she just sucks energy… like shouting in a black hole.” – [70:17]
• Complete lack of self-reflection:
  • “There’s not a single moment of self-reflection, even at this type of moment.” – Guest, [96:47]
• Lee’s plea regarding their daughter (most emotional moment):
  • “My daughter is the same as me. She is my shadow… We understand each other.” – Lee, [94:25]
• Mai’s emotional detachment:
  • “Why do I need to understand my daughter?” – Mai, [88:36]
• “All I do is take care of you!”
  • “She uses being a housewife as a shield... it’s almost like how a parent acts, not how spouses act.” – Stephanie, [98:10]
• On group exhaustion:
  • “To be honest, I've never felt so suffocated in my life... and we're just outsiders.” – (Panel, as quoted by Stephanie), [98:43]
• On Mai’s final embrace with Lee:
  • “They get out and they embrace… Is this a happy ending or not?” – [111:25]-[111:38]
• On public reaction and aftermath:
  • “She was getting cyberbullied and it was bad… does she need to be tore up? No. That’s actually crazy.” – [111:48]-[112:12]

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Structure, Flow, and Key Segments

1. Introduction & Recap of Setup ([01:52]-[05:28])

• Quick intro of the show’s premise, the cast of couples, and why Mai & Lee’s drama is the wildest.

2. The Downward Spiral: “Death Point” to Public Meltdowns ([05:28]-[15:51])

• The infamous ‘ideal partner’ incident and Mai’s public upstaging for 24+ hours.

3. The Group Unravels: Car Fights, Ignored Rules, and Mai’s Disregard ([15:51]-[33:20])

• Breakdown of the “head of household” challenge and how Mai’s behavior negatively affects all.

4. Theoretical and Emotional Analysis: Gaslighting, Projection, and Comparing Lives ([33:20]-[70:17])

• Stephanie and co-host reflect on emotional manipulation, “saving face,” comparison traps, and Mai’s lack of introspection.

5. Lee’s Emotional Collapse and Parental Fears ([94:25]-[96:47])

• The most poignant segment: Lee’s fear for their daughter; Mai’s emotional coldness.

6. Backstory & Attempted Resolution ([107:39]-[113:19])

• Mai’s adoption story sheds light on her patterns—but doesn’t excuse them.
• The couple’s “even embrace” (RV challenge) and alleged real-life efforts at self-improvement.

7. Aftermath and Reflection ([113:19]-[117:00])

• Post-show cyberbullying, public apologies, and the broader takeaways.

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Takeaways & Themes

No easy moral—and no scapegoat

• The story is a messy, exhausting, genuinely fascinating portrait of destructive relationship cycles.
• Empathy for both main parties is tempered by recognition of damage done.
• Final message: unresolved trauma will perpetuate, transform, and spread—unless actively addressed.

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Segmented Timestamps

• Intro & Show Setup: [01:52] – [05:28]
• Couple Dynamics Revealed (“death point”): [06:01] – [14:42]
• Mai Disrupts/Ignores Group Bonds: [15:51] – [33:20]
• Gaslighting & Communication Barriers: [33:20] – [70:17]
• Parental Grievances & Lee’s Emotional Break: [94:25] – [96:47]
• Mai’s Backstory & Attempted Healing: [107:39] – [113:19]
• Reunion/Aftermath & Reflections: [113:19] – end

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Closing Thought

“You just have to take care of yourself. Otherwise you just cannot take care of anyone else.” ([115:45])

With her signature blend of empathy, snark, and exasperation, Stephanie wraps this saga as a cautionary (or, at least, spectacularly watchable) tale of unexamined trauma, group dynamics, and the true cost of refusing—ever—to change.

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For listeners who didn’t catch the full ride, this episode is a dense, emotional, darkly comedic masterclass in reality TV relationship chaos—serving as both warning and weird group therapy all at once.

Transcript

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[Host 1]

It.

[Host 3]

Is the final chapter that is the most insane relationship thus far on a reality show. This is part three of you again.

[Host 1]

I'm seeing you again. I saw you again. I'm seeing you again.

[Host 3]

And I'm done fucking seeing you like I want to. Yes, this is the finale. If you guys haven't watched the two earliest parts.

[Guest Commentator]

Yes, only for my.

[Host 3]

Though literally only for one of the three couples because the other couple is crazier. Is crazier.

[Guest Commentator]

He's crazier than Mai.

[Host 1]

He's so much more insane than Mai. He makes Mai seem like a playground.

[Host 3]

Like my. I think people were getting more riled up by Mai because it wasn't as crazy in terms of how severe it was. Like everything that the other couple does, you just go, oh my gosh.

[Host 1]

That's an actual crazy Red flag. Like, I don't even know how to comment on this, but Maya is just insane.

[Host 3]

If you guys don't know. See youe Again is a Chinese dating reality show. But it, well, it's a divorce reality show. I guess it's the opposite of dating. And it's where three Chinese celebrity couples come on the show and their marriage.

[Host 1]

Is already in shambles.

[Host 3]

It's on the rocks. They're about to get divorced and they.

[Host 1]

They'Re going to be on here for.

[Host 3]

18 days, doing a cross country road.

[Host 1]

Trip across China, seeing the sites, partaking in these little challenges, talking to the other couples, talking to therapists to see at the very end, do we want to keep trying, do we call it quits? And it's dramatic, it's intense. And on this season we have three separate couples. We've got Yang Zi and his wife Eva, famous actress. Yang Zi is a nepo, baby.

[Host 3]

That's the crazy couple. Yang Zi is the crazy one.

[Host 1]

Eva is fine.

[Host 3]

Don't lump her into this.

[Host 1]

She's not. You know what, you're right. It's not a crazy couple.

[Host 3]

It's a crazy man. It's a crazy man doing crazy man shit. That's them.

[Host 1]

And then you have the chill husband and wife. I don't think we're even going to do one episode on them because they have problems, they have fights, but they just seem like a regular couple where it's like, yeah, we fight. We kind of love each other. He's kind of hot, she's kind of cute. But like, we fight.

[Host 3]

But then, then you have.

[Guest Commentator]

They love each other again after they see the other two coup.

[Host 3]

They're like, I don't think we knew what you meant.

[Host 1]

When marriage is in shambles was like.

[Host 3]

Part of the description. We thought it meant like y' all fight. We didn't know that they should honestly not be together. Any of these people. Except for the chill husband and wife. And now you have Lee and my.

[Host 1]

Lee was a very famous singer.

[Host 3]

Still famous, but he had a very big breakthrough song 12, 13 years ago.

[Host 1]

He has never really replicated that level of success, but he's got a cult following. He has a successful career. They live in a $5 million Beijing mansion. My is the money.

[Guest Commentator]

Honestly, it's probably apartment I mean, when.

[Host 1]

You say mansion, you're right. Yeah.

[Host 3]

It's like in New York.

[Host 1]

You wouldn't get like a town. Well, I don't know how to.

[Guest Commentator]

It's not a mansion for sure. You don't get a yard.

[Host 1]

Oh, yeah.

[Guest Commentator]

Nobody gets a yard.

[Host 3]

When you get a yard in Beijing.

[Host 1]

And you say, spending time in my.

[Host 3]

Backyard and people know you live in Beijing, that's the craziest flex you can have.

[Guest Commentator]

That's billionaire money.

[Host 1]

Yeah. So they. They live in an apartment, a $5 million apartment in Bei.

[Host 3]

They live a good life.

[Host 1]

Mai is a housewife. She is the mother of their two children, and she is.

[Host 3]

I have no words to describe it.

[Guest Commentator]

Just flashback to the last four hours of stories.

[Host 3]

You just have to go on to those episodes. I can't tell you. You could throw a thesaurus at me and I wouldn't even be able to tell you anything. So that's my.

[Host 1]

So with that being said, the last round we left off with talking about. What were you talking about? What happened? Oh, she was sabotaging the other couples on their spending day because she wanted to be right. She has an obsession with being right.

[Host 3]

And then the whole death point thing.

[Host 1]

Happened where all the couples sat down and it was a moment where I. Like I said, in any other reality show, the husband would have been canceled. But the question was, in a very open manner, point to who in this group you think is the ideal partner? The other two husbands pointed at their.

[Host 3]

Wives, and my man, Mr. Lee pointed at somebody else's wife. It did not go well. It did not go well at all. This was. This is the downfall. This is the climax of the shit show.

[Host 1]

But it gets worse.

[Host 3]

So immediately the next day, the producers.

[Host 1]

Are like, you know what?

[Host 3]

We're just going to act like we.

[Host 1]

Did not set you guys up for failure.

[Host 3]

We're just going to keep rolling with it and make y' all roll with it. So we're going to do head of the house cards. We are going to give it to.

[Host 1]

One person in each couple, and obviously they give it to the person that's.

[Host 3]

Not as take charge in the couple.

[Host 1]

So they give it to Eva. So she has this card for the.

[Host 3]

Rest of the day, which means whatever.

[Host 1]

She wants, her spouse got to do it. Her husband, Yang Zi has to do it.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, they give it to.

[Host 1]

Not the aggressive ones. Yeah. So Eva gets it. The chill husband gets it, and then Lee gets it. Mai's husband gets it.

[Guest Commentator]

So they make the call.

[Host 1]

You cannot complain, you cannot refuse. You cannot be angry. And, like, obviously no one's asking you to do anything crazy or illegal, like go kill somebody or like, hey, lick every single in between my toes.

[Host 3]

No one's asking for stuff like that. It's just, like, normal stuff. No one's being unreasonable.

[Host 1]

About it. But we just know things are not going to go well because the whole death pointing thing happened last night. And the whole night Mai and Lee have been fighting. Mai has been crying for what Yang Jie has muttered under his breath, has been the 800th time. Like, apparently there have been lots of times that she has cried that they have not aired.

[Guest Commentator]

Wow.

[Host 1]

So he's just saying everyone's attempting to console her, Even the other two wives, instead of sleeping or instead of working.

[Host 3]

On their own marriages, they for again, the 800th time, just hanging out with Mai, trying to make her feel better. Meanwhile, Lee, he, he keeps getting kicked out. Mai's like, I don't want to talk to you, leave. So he keeps getting kicked out. And he's just trying to understand what's going on. Like he doesn't understand.

[Host 1]

He just wanted to be open. He wanted to have these open conversations.

[Host 3]

With Mai and none of this is working out the way that it should be working out. And he's just so freaking exhausted.

[Host 1]

Even when they talked right after the whole thing, like I said, he was very honest. He said the reason that he pointed at the chill wife was not because he found her beautiful, or I mean, she is, but it's not like anything like that, which that would have been crazy. He said, I don't even talk to her. I just talked to her husband, the chill husband. Because you remember the very first day he said, we bonded about our likes for photography, music, film. Like we had a lot of the similar taste. And so we just bonded off of that naturally. And then obviously the conversation of our relationship came up and he was talking about how his wife is honestly a very thoughtful person. He was saying how he would be interested in a camera. He would look at a camera at a store and then for his birthday, she would leave it on his pillow. So it's like she would notice these things. And even if she is not someone who's into the hobbies that he's into, she wants to know about it. She wants to support his hobby, she wants to be involved, she wants to ask him about it. And previously, Mai confidently and proudly said she's not interested in getting to know her husband.

[Host 3]

Like she doesn't find it interesting.

[Host 1]

She said, yeah, she could ask him about his taste in music, which side.

[Host 3]

Note, he's a fucking musician.

[Host 1]

She said. But then he would talk for two hours and then the whole time she would sit there and think about what to buy at the grocery store.

[Guest Commentator]

It's so crazy that she says it with a full Chest.

[Host 1]

It's, like, kind of weird because she's almost proud. Yeah. There are some people, like, I've actually met a few people before where it's, like, very proud to, like, hate their spouse publicly.

[Host 3]

And I'm like, I feel like y' all should just divorce that, because that's crazy. No.

[Host 1]

So she, like, publicly is like, so I, like, I don't give a. About him. And it's like, you're on national television.

[Host 3]

On national tv, and it's like, why are you even on this show, then? And it just.

[Guest Commentator]

He's like, she genuinely don't see a problem with couples having no interest in each other. Like, we have no common interest. What's wrong with that?

[Host 1]

Yeah. You know, and she's like, I don't see why I have to get to know his interests.

[Guest Commentator]

Right.

[Host 1]

And she said that he is telling her that he wants to make it work, but this show, it just kind of magnified their problems, which is probably how it is. You know, you're supposed to confront your problems, try to fix them. He said he just feels like in this relationship, she's just never happy. And he's like, I mean, I'll go get help. You keep making it seem like I'm crazy. So, like, I will go get help if there's something psychologically wrong with me that I don't even see. And I think a lot of netizens thought that that was also crazy because they're saying she has gaslit him to.

[Host 3]

The point where he thinks he's mentally ill. Like, he has psychological problems, and it's just.

[Host 1]

It's gnarly. And after he's opening up about all of this, he's like, I pointed at her for these reasons, and these are things that I just wish I had in a relationship. He's. And he's so calm when he talks. He's never emotional. He never actually says anything that's mean. He never is. Like, you never do that. For me, it's just very like, these are things I wanted. I think our problems are being magnified on this show. It's not like, see, you have so many problems and you refuse to work.

[Host 3]

On them, which she doesn't want to work on them. And nobody would even really be that mad for him saying that.

[Host 1]

But her response is, I'm really calm. Like, I'm actually very calm today. I think in the process of you exploring your own heart, maybe that's what you want. She's telling him, but I'm sorry, that's no longer what I Want to give. I have my own thoughts. And first of all, you don't have an apologetic attitude for pointing at her.

[Guest Commentator]

You don't have apologetic attitude for pointing at a different woman. Right?

[Host 1]

Yeah. Next, just like what you said, you hope that your wife could pay special attention to your world, buy you things that you like, but you don't do that for me, so I'm not gonna do it for you. You don't give, but you keep asking for it. And okay, could some of that be valid? Netizens are like, technically. I'm sure lots of couples have been in situations where like, okay, yeah, fine. I guess it's like, annoying when it's like, well, you. You do the change first. Right? But people thought it was messed up because the way he's saying it was so genuine of like, please help me. This is what I want. This is what's happening with me. And she's like, no, if you're not doing it, I'm not doing it. And people just thought it was like, God. And then also people didn't like the fact that he has to apologize when. Yeah, it's a very sad moment. Another thing, if you guys didn't watch the last episode where he pointed at the other wife, the first thing she said while crying was, the other husbands pointed at their wives. And so people felt like, it's not even that she's sad that their relationship has gotten to the point where he doesn't think she's the ideal partner anymore. It's the fact that all the other husbands did this, but he did not. That's what made her mad. And so people thought the fact that he has to apologize to her for this is weird because isn't the whole point of this being so brutally honest and being so vulnerable so that you guys can change to have a better relationship?

[Host 3]

And at this point, she just brings up dope, divorcing.

[Host 1]

She's like, maybe we should separate then. And again, a lot of people felt like she was saying that so that she can just win this whole conversation. And she even asked, if we divorce, can I have the kids and all the money?

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, that's when she asked right now?

[Host 1]

Yeah. She was like, so if we divorce, can I have all the kids and all the money?

[Guest Commentator]

That's crazy. All the money?

[Host 1]

Yeah. And Lee was like, Lee, again, is like, literally, I'm not even talking. I'm not. Divorce is not even on my mind. Like, I. I'm not gon talk to you about divorce right now. And then she's like, then you take all the money and I'll take the kids. Okay. Just to give you perspective, a lot of netizens know that Lee, both of his parents passed away very early, and so he has a very strong sense of family unit with his family, because he doesn't really have other family. I don't know if he has siblings. It doesn't seem like they talk about siblings or anything. It just seems. He seems very lonely, family wise. And so they have this whole conversation and Lee's like, I'm not talking about divorce. I'm not talking about divorce. They go to sleep, they wake up.

[Host 3]

And now he is the head of the household. He's got the head of the household card.

[Host 1]

And all of his demands for my are so simple. All the other couples, they've got bigger demands. And he said, just don't be angry. Try not to have such a salty face. And just maybe spend time making music with me.

[Host 3]

Like, these are all fun things. Like, don't be angry. Don't look salty. Fine. And then, like, make music with him. That seems like a good time, right?

[Host 1]

Clearly she's not gonna listen. So the next morning, those are his three demands. And the three couples are to get into three separate cars and drive on a road trip to the next destination. And the producers even are saying, you know, this is time for you guys to have alone and to reflect on the past few days. Because they didn't have a lot of couple to couple time. They had a lot of time with the other wives or as a group or the other husbands or, you know, there wasn't intimate moment time. A lot of the times the couples don't even sleep together. So it's like the girls will all sleep together and then the guys will sleep together. So finally, you're getting time. Immediately Mai goes to Eva and says, can I ride in your car? I don't even want to be in his car.

[Guest Commentator]

Okay? So she just ignored every instruction. And the purpose of the road trip.

[Host 1]

And the purpose of the show. But also, like, now you're putting another couple in a weird situation where they can't say no. But also, it's not their job to make you comfortable.

[Host 3]

They have their own relationship they need. The show is not Mai's show. The show is three couples trying to.

[Host 1]

Fix their own relationships.

[Host 3]

And mind you, the other wives have.

[Host 1]

Been spending a lot of time trying to make Mai feel better. And so Eva is like, what? That's like, don't do that. That's too obvious. Like saying, like, you're gonna make him Feel very damn high.

[Guest Commentator]

EQ response.

[Host 1]

Yeah, it's just a lot. And it also happened to be Chinese Valentine's Day while they're on filming.

[Guest Commentator]

Wow. So that day is Chinese Valentine's Day. Okay. Wow.

[Host 1]

So the. The chill wife, she tries to interject, and she's like, oh, so are you guys driving? Like, she's just saying, like, oh, are you guys ready to drive? And Maya's like, oh, I'm gonna take their car. So at this point, Eva had not said yes, but she's like, I'm gonna.

[Guest Commentator]

Take their car, and she's gonna share the ride with them.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

With Eva and her husband. So she's telling the other wife, like, I'm gonna go with the other wife. And even the chill wife is like, huh? And Mai is like, yeah, I'm gonna ride with Eva and chat with them. And she just, like, storms off into the car.

[Host 3]

Yang Zi, who does not care about.

[Host 1]

Eq, Eva's husband goes, hey, go away. He's like, go.

[Host 3]

Go back to your car. What are you doing? Like, go to your car.

[Guest Commentator]

Crazy.

[Host 3]

And Mai ignores them and just get.

[Host 1]

Then she goes, no, I don't want to go in that car. Yep. But why is that their problem?

[Host 3]

They don't want you in their car. Clearly. Like, your problem is not their problem. Like, the whole world is supposed to revolve around you, and that doesn't make any sense.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Also, this show is not just about you. Like, you just keep inserting yourself into everything, but, like, it's not about you. The whole point of the three separate.

[Host 1]

Cars is finally for the couples to talk on this road trip.

[Host 3]

Like, damn, what do you mean?

[Host 1]

I don't know. The things that she does are very odd, and people are getting very frustrated, and people are commenting like it's. Eva also has head of the household. Mai does not have head of the household card.

[Host 3]

But she's just deciding for everyone. Like, it's just so crazy.

[Host 1]

It's not even just deciding for her.

[Host 3]

And her family unit.

[Host 1]

She's now deciding for everyone. So she gets an Eva and Yang Zi's car, and now the chill husband and chill wife are in one car, and Mai's husband is alone. So the chill wife and chill husband, they get into Mai's husband car because they're like, I mean, we're not gonna let this guy drive completely alone. Like, that's fucked up.

[Guest Commentator]

That is crazy.

[Host 3]

So she fucks up everybody's day. She fucks up the whole day for everyone. Oh, my gosh.

[Host 1]

Wow.

[Guest Commentator]

So everyone just Catering to her childishness.

[Host 1]

Yeah, so she's like, fucking up everybody.

[Host 3]

So in the end, they take two.

[Host 1]

Cars instead of three.

[Host 3]

And nobody gets the intimate, alone couple.

[Host 1]

Time to talk and work on their relationship because of one person.

[Guest Commentator]

Damn, his head of household car mean nothing to her, right?

[Host 1]

No. She literally outright said, I don't care. So when they arrive at the next destination, they get out of their cars.

[Host 3]

The whole road trip has just been.

[Host 1]

Awkward, uncomfortable, and everyone's kind of pissy.

[Host 3]

Because it's like, I mean, what's crazy is that she ruined everybody's day for no reason.

[Host 1]

But everyone's still trying to be in high spirits. So they get to the next place and they're like, oh, my God, it's so beautiful. They're taking pictures and she's like, okay, guys, well, don't worry about me. She tells them, don't pay attention to me. Don't worry about me. And everywhere they go, she's just fucking speed walking ahead.

[Host 3]

Like, she's just always off in the distance.

[Host 1]

And then people would be like, are you okay? And then she'd be like, don't pay attention to me. It's okay. Like, enjoy your day. And then she'll just, like, speed walk into the distance. And like, let's be real, you can't.

[Host 3]

Not pay attention when someone's doing that. And it also throws off, like, the whole energy of the group. It's just like, no one can genuinely have fun. No one can be not on edge.

[Host 1]

Like, the whole time you're just like, like, so uncomfortable. And what's crazy is I think it's so understandable. There are other days where one of the other couples will get into a massive fight, but when they're in a group activity, you see them so uncomfortably.

[Host 3]

Trying so hard to, like, yeah, yeah, let's do that.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Because, like, you know, that's what you do. You get into a fight with your partner, and then you show up to the party and you're like, you're trying so hard. You're like, no, I'm not good.

[Host 1]

I'm not crying.

[Host 3]

You know, that's what people are supposed to do. People are saying, but she won't do it.

[Host 1]

Like, the other couples will do it. Because, like, you see them and it's like, I literally just saw them get.

[Host 3]

Into the biggest fight ever.

[Host 1]

Two seconds before they came out to this dinner with every single person.

[Host 3]

And, like, I just saw that they were both sobbing and they wiped their tears off and they sat down and they tried so hard to not make.

[Host 1]

It awkward for anyone, but like, she won't. So she, it's just people thought it was unfair and she, I think it's very interesting because she's doing everything she says she doesn't want to do. So in an interview she said, yeah, well, I mean, look, I don't want to be alone with him and I don't want to ruin the mood for everyone. That's why she was walking ahead. But she had a very sour face the whole time and she was walking ahead. So honestly, the mood was kind of ruined for everyone. What do you mean? Right. And then they get back into the car and she's telling Eva and Yang Zi and she's like, you know, last night after the whole death thing, the death point thing? Well, she doesn't call it that, but after that whole fight, she's like, you know, he came to find me and he just told me everything I did wrong. And the panel of judges that watched everything, they're like, that's literally not what he did. Like, that's not at all what happened. That's, that's actually crazy. Like, he opened up to Mai being completely vulnerable. He expressed his own emotions, he expressed his struggles. He even questioned if he needed therapy. He thought that something was wrong with him. He felt like their issues had been magnified. At no point did he say that Mai did anything wrong. The conversation wasn't even about like, you, you, you. It was very like, here's how I'm feeling about it and I just want to be open about it. She never mentions that she threatened him with divorce or how she coldly was like, well, then I'll take the kids and you take the money.

[Host 3]

Like, that's a crazy, crazy comment to just throw out there.

[Host 1]

She didn't do any of that. And so at this point, Eva and Yang Zi, they're comforting her. And honestly, it seems half hearted. It seems like everyone just knows if you comfort her, it's the easy way out. Because if you try to like have any sort of conversation with her, the.

[Host 3]

One biggest comment that netizens have is.

[Host 1]

Talking to Mai is like talking to a wall.

[Host 3]

Like, you're not going to get through it.

[Host 1]

There's nothing that's going to happen. You could try to slam your head into a brick wall 500 times, but.

[Host 3]

Your head's going to burst open before.

[Host 1]

That brick wall breaks. That's not going to happen. And so they're just like, oh, that's messed up. Yeah, yeah. And then she still keeps going and she's like, but don't you think he still doesn't realize that he did anything wrong today? Like, everybody was praising their wives, but he was praising another woman.

[Guest Commentator]

She's still on the finger pointing. Oh, my God.

[Host 1]

Isn't that ironic? I just feel like I'm always sitting on pins and needles. Yeah. And then she accuses her husband of speaking negatively about her constantly and making her feel like shit.

[Guest Commentator]

But where does the husband ever speak negative of her?

[Host 1]

Yes. And we never really hear her speak positively of him either.

[Guest Commentator]

I mean, she says she's saying, like, he's saying the issues in their relationship.

[Host 1]

Maybe, because that's the whole point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's weird. It seems like she almost came on the show to act like the perfect couple, and then she's pissed off that he's actually trying to work on their relationship. That's the vibe it gives.

[Guest Commentator]

Ah, I see.

[Host 1]

That's the vibe.

[Guest Commentator]

Ah, I can see that.

[Host 1]

Because.

[Guest Commentator]

Okay, it seems like she compares a lot. Right. She's constantly comparing with his friend, other couples. She's just upset that the husband won't play the role of, like, you're on Divorce show. What are you talking about?

[Host 1]

Yeah, what are you doing on the Divorce show? Go to a different show. There's one point where she has to guess his favorite color, and she guesses white, but he actually says it's green. And she goes on, like, this whole.

[Host 3]

Thing where she's like, but you never wear green.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, my God.

[Host 1]

And then he's like, oh, my God, this is crazy.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah. And this is crazy.

[Host 1]

And she's like, no, no, no.

[Host 3]

But that's weird because you never wear green.

[Host 1]

You don't have any clothes that are green.

[Host 3]

Which is, like, weird, because I don't know if everyone just, like, wears their favorite color all the time.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah. Even that could be a conversation. Like, crazy.

[Host 1]

Yeah. And she just seems, like, annoyed.

[Guest Commentator]

It's not even the moment. It doesn't seem like she's, like, reflecting, like, huh, that's fascinating. I don't know how I didn't think of that. It's more so like, no, you don't wear green.

[Host 1]

Yes.

[Guest Commentator]

Like, I don't believe you.

[Host 1]

And another thing is, like, people were saying, that's the energy you have in another reality show where couples are, like.

[Host 3]

Trying to win a prize.

[Host 1]

It's like, no, now it's about competitiveness.

[Host 3]

Like, you don't even wear green. Like, come on, we gotta get the point.

[Host 1]

Right? But for this, it's a divorce show. It's like.

[Host 3]

You'Re not Winning anything but a divorce. Like, I'm so confused. Everyone's confused because, yes, you get points.

[Host 1]

But the points are for later to see progress.

[Host 3]

It's not because it's a competition.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

When they get out of the car again, Yang Zi is, like, trying to ease things over. And he's probably sick of my being all up in his business.

[Host 3]

So he's like, lee, you should come say good morning to your wife. And Mai turns to him and goes.

[Host 1]

Did you ask me for my permission to Yanzi? Yeah. And all the comments are like, did you ask for permission when you fucking.

[Host 3]

Went into their car? That's actually insane.

[Host 1]

And then she proceeded to announce loudly, I'm just gonna stick to Eva. The entire day.

[Guest Commentator]

Eva's like, sos and.

[Host 3]

Again, did she ask for Eva's permission? And also, Eva is here for her own journey. You know, that doesn't make any sense.

[Host 1]

And then someone reminds her, like, it's the head of the house today. You know, you have to follow the rules. And even Lee on the side, the husband goes, it's okay, I'm just not gonna use the card. It's another thing where Mai always complains about how her husband doesn't save her face, which I hate that so much. I hate that phrase a lot. I hate that phrase. Okay. I don't know if it's the first phrase I hate, because it's a phrase also commonly used in East Asian households. If you hurt my feelings in front of other people, I'm going to be upset with you because you hurt my feelings. And there happen to be other people. But I think it's crazy when it's, like, about saving face. Saving face is like making you look good in front of people. Like, saving your reputation, saving your face in front of other people. So she's saying that he never saves her face. Like, never rescues her in these moments. But she's always saving his face.

[Host 3]

Meanwhile, nobody sees that, like, where she's just spitting on his face all the time.

[Host 1]

Even the other couples, Yang Zi dumpster fire. Arguably so much worse than Mai. But even head of the household days, he's waking up early, he's carrying Eva's bags. He's holding her hand throughout the day, like, there's a lot. And even the Chill wife, she's writing love poems for her husband.

[Host 3]

That's his wake up service.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

He asked for wake up service.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Yes.

[Host 3]

Just like Dear Love, that's his alarm. You know, everyone's making effort, but she.

[Host 1]

Will not talk to her husband. And they're trying to tell her my today is head of the household day. Like, you have to cater to him.

[Host 3]

You need to make him feel like.

[Host 1]

He'S truly the head of the household. And she announces in front of the whole group again. She, like, went on rants about saving face, and she said, all right, but the problem is, as someone who's about to get a divorce, and even Yang Zi is like, no, this is the rules of the game, okay?

[Host 3]

You gotta play the rules of the game.

[Host 1]

It's like the spirit of the game. People say yang Zi. Like, the only time he seems normal is in front of Mai.

[Host 3]

So I don't know what that says.

[Guest Commentator]

Real recognizes real.

[Host 3]

I guess they just. They be communicating. Maybe they should. I don't know. It's crazy.

[Guest Commentator]

That's crazy.

[Host 3]

But, like, I don't know. Okay?

[Host 1]

And Lee, the whole time is trying to reconcile with Mai. He's helping her take pictures, asking her if she needs water. Like, running after her as she's storming away. It's just a lot.

[Host 3]

It's just a lot.

[Host 1]

And they've been married for so long. Like, at that point, it's so exhausting. Just sit down.

[Host 3]

Speed walking is more exhausting than communicating.

[Host 1]

Trust me. Just sit down and be like, hey.

[Host 3]

I wish you would do this. And then he'd be like, okay, it's that simple. And then you're like, oh, okay. Literally, the coffee thing, just do that. It's fine. He's doing everything to please Mai, but she is ignoring everything.

[Host 1]

She does not consider his dignity, his feelings. When she's interviewed about this, she said, there's just a big issue in our relationship, and I don't really want to do this Head of the household day. I don't care to do it just for appearances or to save face.

[Guest Commentator]

What?

[Host 1]

Yeah. Even when they had to go up the stairs, he's, like, writing things for her. Like, I just want to stay together forever. He's, like, trying to console her, and she doesn't care. She says, yeah. I mean, they were asking us to do an activity where we write about what we want most in life. And he wrote down, stay together forever. I don't think that's what I want. And everyone in the comments is like, God, she doesn't want anything.

[Host 3]

Nothing is what she wants. The fucking green rice cakes weren't what she wants. Nothing is what she wants. Everyone's getting frustrated to the point where.

[Host 1]

It was so uncomfortable the whole day. She keeps walking ahead. Everyone keeps trying to keep up with her. People are trying to comfort her. She even does this thing where the chill wife walks up to her and is like trying to comfort her and she's like, you really don't have to stay with me. Like spend time with your husband. There's no need for you guys to not spend time together on my account. It's completely unnecessary. Like, it's very rare that you guys have, you guys have time together. So go.

[Host 3]

After you just like broke up everyone for the road trip. Like that's actually crazy for you to say. Like you, you are the reason that nobody was able to spend time with each other. Even now nobody can spend time with each other because how can they, how can they try to reconcile their relationship? When you walk 20 yards away and you got big ass sunglasses on and you're just like the angriest Secret service the whole time. Like, I would not be able to do anything. I would be so scared.

[Host 1]

While boarding a boat, Lee is trying to take Mai's hand to steady her. Pushes his hand away and she deliberately chooses a seat by herself, making everyone feel uncomfortable. It's just all day she just keeps saying, you don't have to pay attention to me. Like, just do your thing. Don't go. Spend time with your spouse. Like, don't split up on my account. Like, go. But how can they? It's like her actions and her words are just not matching up. If that's the case, go sit next to your husband and then just be like, hey, you're so annoying. I don't want to talk to you.

[Host 3]

And don't talk to him. But when you're sitting all the way.

[Host 1]

Away, everyone has to get involved now because there are other times where the other spouses are like, yeah, I'm not going to interact with my spouse because we just got into a fight. But I'm also not going to make it a big deal. Lee is on the boat trying to give her snacks, trying to engage with her attempt conversation. She absolutely just does not care. To the point where she outright just disrespects him and turns to the group.

[Host 3]

And says, I don't want to talk.

[Host 1]

To him and starts laughing.

[Guest Commentator]

Starts laughing?

[Host 1]

Yeah, like, just acts like he doesn't exist.

[Host 3]

And again, this is like a full.

[Host 1]

Grown adult with children. Like it's just not adult behavior. It's not really acceptable behavior. I don't even know if it'd be appropriate as like a 20 something year old. It's just weird. It just makes everyone uncomfortable. I don't know what the point of that is. And it's gotten to the point where the group is so uncomfortable. Now everything is Lee's problem. They tried everything they could with Mai. Doesn't care. So now the group are turning their efforts to the husband, and they're saying, you have to say something to Mai before she storms off again. Like, you have to say something to her before she storms off. You have to try to stop before she walks away again. Like, so now it's like, people are saying they understand why the rest of the group did that, but this is why Mai is the way she is, because you can't get through to her. So then everyone will just make her husband appease her, and that's why she feels entitled to act this way.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, because everyone's telling the husband to do something.

[Host 1]

First of all, everyone's catering to her.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Which maybe she likes that. Maybe she feels justified in her anger. I don't know. But it enables her to keep doing it. Like, you know, that's why usually, like, with children, if they throw unreasonable tantrums at a certain age, people say, you're not supposed to engage and, like, constantly be like, how can we make this better? How can we make this better? When it's like, no, you just can't eat five bowls of sugar before dinner.

[Host 3]

Like, you just can't.

[Host 1]

And that's okay. And so that's kind of what people were trying to say in the comments. That's what a lot of the panel were saying. But she just refuses. Even her husband is like, come back, my. Like, let's talk. And she's like, no, I can walk faster without you. And eventually he's like, don't you have to listen to me. I'm the head of the household. And she said, we don't even have a home anymore, so there's no head of the household. And then she runs off, and the rest of the group are now dogging on the husband. Like, go run after her. Like, come on, chase after her.

[Guest Commentator]

They're over it.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

They're like, we can't do it.

[Host 1]

You gotta do it now. Like, do everything you can because we're over it. They're like, go. So they try everything.

[Host 3]

And I will say, Lee has a very dumbass moment.

[Guest Commentator]

Dumbass moment is crazy.

[Host 3]

Everyone in the comments was like, oh, no. Oh, no. Why'd you do that? Oh, no. Even the panel, we're like, oh, no, don't do that. Before he. We saw what he was thinking.

[Guest Commentator]

Okay, give me the scene. Let me guess.

[Host 1]

Stairs.

[Guest Commentator]

Stairs. Okay.

[Host 1]

Everyone kind of has, like, their little Backpacks or tote bags. And there's stairs. He tries to hold her hand. She's not having any of it. She's like, don't touch me. Okay? Don't touch me. He's like, I have the head of the household card. And then she's like, don't touch me. And she's like, if I say no, it means no. Which, like, I agree. But also, it's like, it's a lot right now.

[Guest Commentator]

Okay, let me guess. He starts. He started walking up. Up the stairs.

[Host 1]

No, no. Oh, yeah. And then Yang Du walks by and, like, technically, he started all of this because he's the one that was like, oh, my God, Mai's gonna cry again.

[Host 3]

And then she started crying, remember? And then he.

[Guest Commentator]

Smiley.

[Host 1]

And he goes, oh, my God, am.

[Host 3]

I going to be on the top.

[Host 1]

Trending list for starting all of this? Are they going to cancel me?

[Host 3]

And everyone's like, this bitch wants to be on the trending list so bad. He's like, stop. This is all my fault. Are they going to.

[Host 1]

Are they going to make me trend?

[Guest Commentator]

Wait, I don't get it.

[Host 3]

Yang Zi is like, this fight is because of me. Are they going to make me trend online because of me? Yeah, it's because of me. So, like, am I going to be on the trending list on Weibo, on Twitter?

[Host 1]

And Eva is just climbing up the stairs, like, I gotta go.

[Host 3]

I can't deal with all of this right now. Like, you guys are a mess. And so Mai, she's just standing on.

[Host 1]

The middle of the steps, refusing to walk. She's like, I don't want to walk with you.

[Host 3]

Don't touch me. I don't want to walk with you. And again. And I keep trying to justify her actions, not because I think they're justified.

[Host 1]

But I think it's like, I know there's going to be people in the comments that are like, okay, girl, like me when I'm mad, right? And everyone is like, sometimes relationships are weird.

[Host 3]

Sometimes people do weird things, right? But this is a lot. This is a lot.

[Host 1]

It's one thing if this is just.

[Host 3]

A solo vacation, you two, even then, it's not something you should be proud of. It's kind of embarrassing. You know, we're all embarrassed of all of our own fights, right? But to do it in front of a group of people, inconvenience the group of people, and then to do it on national TV and feel justified doing it is, like, kind of crazy.

[Host 1]

So she's just like, don't touch me. I don't want to walk with you. And she's refusing to move on the middle of the steps.

[Guest Commentator]

Okay.

[Host 3]

So he can't walk away because picked her up. He can't walk away because then she's going to be like, how dare you walk away from me.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He puts her on his back.

[Host 1]

He tries to. Now Lee is a very frail boy.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, my goodness. He tripped.

[Host 1]

He tries to carry her. He tries to scoop her up like a princess. And he almost instantly drops her, and it is catastrophic.

[Host 3]

And we just know this is an.

[Host 1]

Even bigger shit before the storm situation.

[Host 3]

And every single person, even the panel is like, fuck.

[Guest Commentator]

Okay, so he tried to princess pick her up, but then he fell, right? Yeah, it was at the end of it. Or he's tried other methods.

[Host 1]

No, they get up the stairs, but it's not gonna be good.

[Guest Commentator]

What exactly is going on?

[Host 1]

This is just gonna add to her anger. She doesn't say it in the moment, but just know she'll be thinking about it. She'll be back.

[Guest Commentator]

Because why? Why? Because he fell.

[Host 1]

She's already pretty insecure. And like, you know what?

[Host 3]

I get insecure about stuff like that too.

[Guest Commentator]

Did he pick her up or. Or did she walk? Exactly.

[Host 1]

She walked. She walked. Talk to you after.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, after the felt attempt. Got it.

[Host 3]

She just is not having a good day. And like, I get you, girly. I get you girly. But also, like, if you had just, like, walked next to him, not even holding his hand, I don't think he.

[Host 1]

Would have done that.

[Host 3]

So anyway, people are confused. Some people are commenting, my husband used to think I was difficult until I showed him this season. A lot of girlies are saying, my husband is kissing the floor I walk on right now as we speak right now, because he thought I was crazy. All the other people are like, this.

[Host 1]

Is actually getting ridiculous.

[Host 3]

The entire group should ignore her. Like, this is actually insane.

[Host 1]

Other people are saying, like, I'm so exhausted just watching. Imagine living with someone like that. So after this very exhausting afternoon of everybody walking around eggshells, the whole group, not just Lee, everyone's sighing like, I'm so exhausted, you know? And everyone is just trying so hard to cater to Mai. At one point, to get to the next place, the chill wife comes up to Mai and offers to hold her backpack. And so Mai gives it to her and she sarcastically goes, oh, so this is what it feels like to be taken care of, girl.

[Guest Commentator]

Like, come on. Just like, shut up for a second.

[Host 3]

Two seconds.

[Guest Commentator]

Just like, not everything you say has to Be like a shot at someone. Like, come on. Yeah, it's getting so annoying.

[Host 3]

Like, you can have neutral comments, like a good old thank you. Perfect for this moment, actually. Like, things can be neutral to positive. Like, that was crazy and uncalled for. Uncalled for? People are commenting, like, did he not take care of you this entire time? Like, what were we watching? I don't know what you were saying, but this was not what we were watching. And so everybody just had enough of her.

[Host 1]

Finally, Yang Zi and Eva are walking hand in hand, and this was like, a whole thing. Eva says he never holds her hand.

[Host 3]

It's like a thing. Like, they live in two different worlds. They have their own different lives.

[Host 1]

So this is like a big thing for them to finally be like, you know what? Let's enjoy the moment together where we're not thinking about our own world, our own work, our own problems. Like, just you and me.

[Guest Commentator]

I'm so excited for this Yang Zi episode because I've seen, like, some videos on him. His lore is crazy.

[Host 3]

And so finally, Mai suddenly walks up to them, interjects, and goes, look, my jacket zips all the way up.

[Guest Commentator]

That's a neutral comment, right?

[Host 3]

It's giving and it has pockets. Like, just imagine you've been pissing off everyone all day. They finally have a moment without you, you woke up, and it has pockets. So pissed. I would be so pissed. Oh, my God, I would literally cry.

[Guest Commentator]

Because I was like, what was that about?

[Host 3]

She just like, I don't know. No one knows. Nobody knows. And then she notices that they're like, not the move.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

And she goes, oh, never mind.

[Host 1]

You two continue.

[Host 3]

How can they continue after that? And then she starts walking away really fast, and everyone's like, you clearly wanted them to pay attention to you. And then you feel like it's inappropriate.

[Host 1]

So then you're like, never mind. You continue.

[Host 3]

But you really want them to chase after you.

[Host 1]

So she, like, just does just enough so she can always hit back with a. What do you mean? I told them to continue.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

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[Host 2]

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[Host 2]

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[Host 1]

Say if you want to go fast, go alone. But if you want to go far, go together. At Amica Insurance, we're built for our customers and prioritize your needs. Call 87741Amica for a free coverage review. So they get to the next destination. They see a group of elderly women and they're sharing their love advice. You know, they've been married for so long. Obviously the advice is very profound. Poison them.

[Host 3]

No, no, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No, the advice is very nice and Lee thought okay, he's trying everything. He's a very logical man. But he said, clearly she wants an emotional grand gesture so I will publicly.

[Host 1]

Beg for forgiveness in front of everybody. He borrows the microphone of one of the elderly ladies.

[Host 3]

He was like, what the fuck?

[Guest Commentator]

Okay.

[Host 1]

And he says, I want to publicly apologize to my wife today. I'm not very good at making my wife feel better, but it is my duty to do so. And I know that it's Chinese Valentine's Day, and I upset my wife again yesterday in front of everyone. I just want to say how much I love my wife, and I hope to be with you for the rest of our lives. And I hope that we can learn to tolerate each other's shortcomings. And I want to tell you I love you very, very much. You are the person in this world that I love the most. And I wish you a very beautiful Chinese Valentine's Day, and I hope you can be happy.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, is this sweet? Was it sweet?

[Host 1]

It was really sweet. And people, even the group netizens, were like, wow, he's doing a lot, like, all day.

[Host 3]

Usually a guy, you're like, leave me alone.

[Host 1]

After, like, the third Leave me alone.

[Host 3]

You're like, where'd you go?

[Host 1]

Hello.

[Host 3]

All day.

[Host 1]

He's like, it doesn't matter how disrespected, how uncomfortable how. Like, honestly, the way she rejects him is pretty demeaning too.

[Host 3]

Like, I would have a hard time coming back from her rejections.

[Host 1]

It would just. I would be so.

[Host 3]

I could not.

[Host 1]

I could not keep going. He goes all day and even does this publicly, giving her so much face until her pride is satisfied so that she can finally forgive him. And he even takes out the small gift that he prepared. And he said, because we've been on.

[Host 3]

The show for, like, a week and.

[Host 1]

A half, you know, I couldn't prepare anything. All I had with it was this gift for you. And it's a drawing that I made. And it was a drawing where he says that she looks like these two very famous, very beautiful celebrities. And it was like, a whole thing that they were talking about with the.

[Guest Commentator]

Portrait people where he drew her.

[Host 1]

Yeah. And it's pretty.

[Guest Commentator]

It looks like her.

[Host 1]

Yeah. And she's smiling. And then he drew cow poop and a fresh flower in the cow poop. Yeah. Okay. So apparently this is a very common Mandarin thing where you say a flower stuck in cow poop. And mainly the idea is that a man is so utterly unworthy of a woman.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah. And, like, when you see a very pretty girl with a very Ugly man. You're like, why is this flower in a.

[Host 1]

In cow poop?

[Guest Commentator]

Cow poop, yeah.

[Host 1]

And so he's literally saying in front of everyone publicly on national tv, I'm cow and you are the flower. And all the netizens are like, okay, so everyone in this couple is delusional, huh?

[Host 3]

Because that's crazy. That's not what we were seeing. I'm not saying she's cow poop. We're just saying that maybe both of.

[Host 1]

You guys are flowers, but very different types of flowers. And when the group saw this, they were cheering immediately. And they're just like, it's like everyone is trying to be a supporting actor in Mai's drama. They're trying to clap and they're cheering.

[Host 3]

Hug him, hug him.

[Guest Commentator]

That's a step, right, for her to really just take that lead and take the branch and. Yes, go ahead. Yanzi starts saying some shit again.

[Host 1]

He's like, see, this is beautiful. Like, come on, come on, let's get a picture. And it cuts to Mai's interview.

[Host 3]

I was angry because of the portraits the painter drew. And then he drew me a picture.

[Guest Commentator]

She mad. She mad because it's another painting.

[Host 1]

She's saying, like, she was offended by the drawing. By the drawing where it looked like a man. And then he drew her something else. So she's like, I was upset about a drawing. So what does he do? Give me a drawing. Crazy.

[Guest Commentator]

Damn. I think she just wanted like a Chanel bag. Like she mentioned the very beginning.

[Host 3]

She mentioned multiple times about her friend's husband who always gives her lavish gifts.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah, but she doesn't want people to know she's materialistic.

[Host 1]

And she says he didn't even pay attention to my needs and what I want when apologizing. It's stupid because I cried over a.

[Host 3]

Drawing and you're giving me a new drawing. Maybe he's sincerely hoping to make me.

[Host 1]

Feel better, but it's not what I want at all. And all the comments were saying what you were saying. No, but she just wants a bag.

[Host 3]

No, but like, she literally just wants something expensive. Yeah, and that's fine, but like, damn, do we have to be a part of this emotional journey? Like, holy shit.

[Guest Commentator]

She'll never fully be happy until she gets the biggest and best bag among her friends.

[Host 1]

Yeah, but even that, it's like, I thought it was really sweet.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 1]

And the drawing was good. And I actually thought the drawing was. Am I about to cry because you.

[Host 3]

Draw me stuff all the time?

[Host 1]

I thought the drawing was good because it's like, if you have such a bad feeling of someone's drawing, it's almost like him being like, no, this is how you look in my eyes. That's not how you look at my eyes.

[Guest Commentator]

And drawing is fucking hard. Like, it takes so much effort. And then to draw someone, drawing a person, it's even harder because it. It's gotta look like. Look like them, and it's gotta look good. Yeah, that's fucking hard.

[Host 3]

Which is why he draws me as a shalom bao. Yeah, but it's like, I thought it was really cute. I'm gonna cry.

[Host 1]

But she was very upset about it, and she. Right afterwards, she's talking to Eva and she's like, oh, are you disappointed that you didn't get anything for Valentine's Day? Because we've been on this show.

[Guest Commentator]

Who's talking to who?

[Host 1]

Maya's talking to Eva.

[Guest Commentator]

What?

[Host 1]

Because she got, you know, the drawing for Valentine's Day, I guess. And then she's like, oh, yeah, because all of us are on this show. Like, you guys probably didn't get anything. And Eva was like, oh, he got me a gift this morning. And then she's like, what? It's like a jade necklace.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, my God, here we go.

[Host 1]

And then she. Literally, the first comment is, look at.

[Host 3]

How expensive your gift is. Like, this is the most expensive one. Your gift is the most expensive one.

[Host 1]

And then Yang Zhi comments the import.

[Host 3]

Also, this guy is fucking crazy too, okay?

[Host 1]

The important thing is it comes from the heart.

[Guest Commentator]

Shut the fuck up.

[Host 1]

Also, all he did was open his wallet.

[Host 3]

Okay?

[Host 1]

It was crazy. He's like, it comes from the heart.

[Host 3]

But she goes, yes, but the most.

[Host 1]

Important thing is he put into effort.

[Host 3]

Getting you a gift. Like, this is amazing.

[Guest Commentator]

So him, arguably, the drawing is way more effort. Way more.

[Host 3]

Okay?

[Guest Commentator]

Thoughtful effort time, no emotions.

[Host 3]

It's not even that, okay?

[Host 1]

All Youngzi did is pay money for.

[Host 3]

A jade bracelet or necklace, which also Lee could do.

[Host 1]

But she always gets mad at him for spending money, so he didn't do. He spent all day chasing after her.

[Host 3]

Getting publicly humiliated on national tv.

[Host 1]

And then at the end, he gave this grand old speech, publicly humiliating himself more, and then had this drawing prepared.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

When honestly, a lot of people don't even think that he should be sorry. And he still did all of this. And she thinks that Yang Zi is amazing.

[Guest Commentator]

See, she will never be happy. Like, doesn't matter even. Like, that's why she. Even when he buys her things, she's still unhappy. Yeah, she's never, ever, ever Happy.

[Host 1]

And like, if.

[Guest Commentator]

And again, like the fact that she said like, your gift is the most expensive meaning again, she's comparing the gift among her little circle again. And that's all she cares about.

[Host 1]

It's so weird. Yeah, it's so weird. And like, if you just wait until the Yang Zi video. Because he would never humiliate himself for his wife. Like, he would never do anything that makes him feel society wise, less of a man for his wife, the mother of his children.

[Host 3]

But Lee is like, ready to kiss.

[Host 1]

The floor she walks on for forgiveness. Yeah. After this episode aired, Mango TV had to hire eight new editors and eight post production interns for this season of See youe Again. And everyone said all the editors quit.

[Host 3]

Because they were pissed off by mine.

[Guest Commentator]

Shut up.

[Host 3]

Yeah, they were like, nah, I'm getting pissed off just watching. Imagine the unedited footage. Imagine the hours of footage to go through. And they're like, I'm suffocating. Watching 40 minute episodes suffocated. Imagine the raw footage.

[Host 1]

So the next day is another start.

[Host 3]

Of another couple trip.

[Host 1]

And this time they're like, okay, so the couples are going to do their own thing. The producers are like, you get three options to choose from. And they have got all the couples lined up outside. And they're like, so one couple is.

[Host 3]

Going to go to the zoo.

[Host 1]

One couple is going to go on a hot air balloon ride, and the other couple is going to go horseback riding. Chill couple immediately are like, hot air.

[Host 3]

Balloon, hot air balloon. They're like so excited. They're like, we love the hot air balloon, right? And then Yang Jie is like, we like horseback riding. I want to go horseback riding.

[Host 1]

And then you just see Mai's face change.

[Host 3]

She looks.

[Host 1]

Looks pissed off. And like, this is crazy. She looks so pissed off. And everyone is so scared of her that the chill husband goes, you know what? Let Mai and Leaf choose first because we don't want to ruin our lives, right? Just let them choose first. Like, everyone is walking on eggshells. And like, does it suck that everyone's just shouting what they want? Yeah, maybe, but like, it's not that big of a deal. Yeah. And Maya's like, no, it's fine. I want to go on the hot air balloon with you guys. So she wants to go on the.

[Host 3]

Hot air balloon with the chill husband.

[Host 1]

And the chill wife.

[Guest Commentator]

Bro.

[Host 1]

He says, no, we want to spend some time together. And remember, she said, no. You guys, remember yesterday she went, you guys, it's rare you guys get to spend time together. Go, remember? And she said, but you two can be together every day.

[Guest Commentator]

She cannot be serious.

[Host 1]

And so finally, the other husband is like, the hot air balloon can't hold that many people.

[Guest Commentator]

There's room for exact.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

We mean, yeah. I'm so confused. You keep interrupting the other couples. To this point, netizens downgraded her from.

[Host 1]

A wall to a lamppost.

[Host 3]

They said, it's like talking to a lamp post. There's like, there's no getting through. There's like, the lights aren't even on. The lamp post doesn't even have the light bulb right now. Like, people are saying, this is just. Just insane. There's no nunchi.

[Host 1]

And if she has nunchi, which is like emotional EQ reading the room. If she has it, it's even worse.

[Host 3]

Because she's choosing to ignore it, which is even worse.

[Host 1]

It just was a lot.

[Host 3]

And I think everyone could sense the.

[Host 1]

Energy of Mai was so insane.

[Host 3]

I think even her husband has way better nunchi than her.

[Host 1]

Because Lee is like, she about to get canceled online.

[Host 3]

So he says, let me take care of this. He said, okay, well, if you guys.

[Host 1]

Are taking the hot air balloon. Because he's like, you guys go take the hot air balloon. We won't do the hot air balloon. And she's got a bad back, so she can't go horseback riding. And the chill wife, I think she's sick of her shit too. She's like, well, I mean, Yang Zi already chose horseback riding anyway. And so then he's like, oh, yes. Okay, so we'll go for the remaining one. We'll go to Animal World. And then the chill wife says, oh, she's afraid of animals. Talking about Mai. So Mai had already told the girls, the wives, that she's scared of animals.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, wow.

[Host 1]

And Eva is like, oh, yeah, she's afraid of animals. And Mai says, he doesn't even know. And the husband says, the animals are in a cage.

[Host 3]

Right?

[Guest Commentator]

And who said this exactly?

[Host 1]

The husband, Lee, is like, the animals are in a cage, right? Like it's a fucking zoo. You know? Like, I get it, you know? Okay. I'm just gonna be so for real with you.

[Host 3]

I think Lee is just trying not to get his wife tore up on the Internet because this, when it's unfolding, it's not looking good. Especially after yester. You're going to try to do this again today.

[Host 1]

My. It's too much. One day unacceptable.

[Host 3]

Two days now. This is who you are. This is. You cannot run from this. Right?

[Host 1]

So he's like, Let me do some damage control. Let's just go with the only remaining option.

[Host 3]

There's only three. It's not like we had 10 and I chose the worst one. It's. We had one option, and that's the one I chose because I didn't have a choice.

[Host 1]

And so she looks at him and goes, look, you go to Animal World.

[Host 3]

And I'll go ride the hot air balloon with them.

[Host 1]

This way, everyone's needs can be met.

[Host 3]

I'm sorry, in what world would everyone's needs be met? Because now you're impeding on their date.

[Host 1]

And they already told you they want to spend alone time.

[Host 3]

So, like, why do you have to do this? And it becomes this whole freaking thing where she's genuinely fighting him in front.

[Host 1]

Of everybody, and he's trying to tell her, well, they already chose the hot air balloon. And I didn't hear Yang Zi choose horseback riding. But even if he hadn't chose horseback riding, you have a bad back. There's no way to ride a horse with a bad back. Yes, you're scared of animals, but at.

[Host 3]

Least they're in cages, okay? I thought in my logical brain, that's the only thing we can do.

[Host 1]

I'm not trying to do anything crazy. She won't give up. Up. She's still mad at him. So in the end, he is backed into the corner, and then he said, okay, I'm just gonna choose the hot air balloon.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, so he's choosing hot air balloon.

[Host 1]

Yeah, he's being the bad guy, and he's choosing the hot air balloon. And the chill couple are like, yeah, yeah, you guys go hot air balloon. And if I were the chill couple.

[Host 3]

I'd be like, at this point, I'm fucking two weeks deep into this shit. I'm mad, okay? I'd be like, no, I want to go on the hot air balloon.

[Host 1]

But she's so sweet. She's like, I like animals. Like, we'll go to the zoo. Yeah, like, let's go to the zoo. It's fine. And so she's like, I just want to connect with my husband. Like, let's just get away from my.

[Host 3]

Let's just leave. I just want to go. Let me get in the car.

[Guest Commentator]

Which direction are you going, Mai? Yeah, you're going west. Okay, we're going east. Let's go.

[Host 3]

I don't even know where the zoo is, but opposite direction right now.

[Host 1]

Mai does not thank anyone. She doesn't, like, say, hey, sorry, guys, I know you guys chose the hot air balloon, but, like, I'm scared of animals. She doesn't say any of that. Instead, she just attacks her husband. She said, I just really want to say something. And I'm like, usually.

[Host 3]

Usually when wise be like, I just.

[Host 1]

Want to say something. I'm like, say it.

[Host 3]

Say it.

[Host 1]

Say it.

[Host 3]

Say what's on your mind with my.

[Host 1]

I'm like, don't say it.

[Host 3]

How about we learn to never talk again? Like, don't say anything.

[Host 1]

Stop.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Host 1]

And she says, I just really want to say something.

[Host 3]

When you were talking about the zoo.

[Host 1]

Both the chill wife and Eva both said, I was afraid of animals. And so she's like, you didn't know I was afraid of animals, Right?

[Host 3]

And Lee, the husband, turns to her on national television, and this man is over it. He says, we have been to the.

[Host 1]

Zoo many times with our kids.

[Host 3]

The animals will not hurt you. We have been to regular zoos. We've been to safari zoos. We've been to wildlife zoos. They are in cages. We have been to the zoos with our kids.

[Guest Commentator]

Yo. And then what did she say?

[Host 1]

She shut up.

[Host 3]

But it's not over.

[Guest Commentator]

She said, I'm coming back.

[Host 3]

She said, let me think about it.

[Guest Commentator]

Hold on.

[Host 1]

Let me think.

[Host 3]

Okay. Meanwhile, all the comments are going off, and they say, what kind of MBTI is this? So I can avoid. So I can ask on all my future dates. And then people say, there's no way to tell. She has a new set of circumstances every day. Some days it's this, some days it's that. Some days it's.

[Host 1]

It's rare. You guys spend time together.

[Host 3]

Some days it's. You guys spend time together every day. Like, it's. Every day is a new character trait unlocked. She just decided she was deathly afraid of animals.

[Guest Commentator]

Okay.

[Host 3]

Everyone's like, this is actually crazy. So after that, everyone goes back to their residences before they get ready for.

[Host 1]

The day, and she starts.

[Host 3]

Starts complaining to the girls. Seriously, he chose Animal World. Like you.

[Guest Commentator]

He's just still on this.

[Host 3]

Yeah. She's like, you two.

[Host 1]

She's talking to the wives.

[Host 3]

She's like, you two said in unison.

[Host 1]

How I was afraid of animals.

[Host 3]

So they don't know that she's been to the zoo. They don't know. So she's like, you two have said that I was afraid of animals, and you guys said it in unison.

[Host 1]

Like, how long have we known each other? Since this trip.

[Host 3]

You know, how many years have I.

[Host 1]

Lived with my husband?

[Host 3]

Like, how am I gonna get out.

[Host 1]

Of this show alive?

[Guest Commentator]

She is so goofy.

[Host 3]

She's so goofy.

[Guest Commentator]

It's like, does she not know how television works?

[Host 3]

Like, does she not know that an SD card cannot be gaslit? Like, the footage is there, ma'.

[Host 1]

Am.

[Host 3]

You cannot gaslight the footage. That was you on that footage. And she just can't stop complaining.

[Host 1]

She's like, when I questioned him, he.

[Host 3]

Was like, well, all the animals will.

[Host 1]

Be in a cage.

[Host 3]

You'll be fine. Like, is that crazy or what? The girls are trying to comfort her, but their hearts are not in it. Like, in the beginning of the show, their hearts were in it.

[Host 1]

Near the end of the show, it's.

[Host 3]

Just like, that's that.

[Host 1]

Okay?

[Host 3]

And so as for Lee, he goes back to his room, and Yang Zi and the chill has said that, like.

[Host 1]

Let me give you some advice. Let me give you some advice. You know what a bad guy is? Yeah.

[Host 3]

Okay, so you two, when you were.

[Host 1]

Arguing today, she just wants you to comfort her. She's mad you haven't been comforting her. So you comfort her and you just say, I'm so dumb, but I love you. Forgive me. I was wrong, right? That's what they want. That's what the woman.

[Guest Commentator]

Didn't he just do that yesterday?

[Host 3]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Host 1]

And then Yang Zi is like, you know, for the zoo, you know, she's scared of animals. Then you blurt out, you're left with the zoo. So what do you do? You put the blame on us. You say, that motherfucker likes riding a horse, and that guy wants to go on a hot air balloon. These. These guys stole our chance at the hot air balloon. Look at them. They're so happy going on the hot air balloon. And Lee is like, we have been to the zoo so many times with our family. Yes, she is scared of animals, but she's not afraid of zoo animals. I think she just wants to find fault with me.

[Host 3]

Yes, yes, but if you point that out, you're exposing her in front of everyone, then of course we will all think she's being unreasonable.

[Host 1]

No, I mean, she really is afraid of animals, but not zoo animals. I think she's just finding fault with me in public. But you can't say that.

[Host 3]

You have to have some emotional intelligence.

[Guest Commentator]

No way. They say that.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

This is Brother Yang Zi.

[Host 1]

Say this.

[Host 3]

Yang Zi goes, just say.

[Host 1]

Just say, brother Yang has chosen this. And this one chose this. And then make us apologize. Right? And then we just say, oh, I'm so sorry. We just blurted out our answers. Right? Blame it on us.

[Host 3]

Be on her team. Go along with her.

[Host 1]

Netizens are so baffled.

[Host 3]

Netizens are like, why does everyone have to be the bad guy when Maya is the bad guy? Why? Why do these two husbands that we also don't like. We don't like y', all, by the way, young dude, shut up. You're on thin ice, okay? We barely are standing you in this scene. Like, we don't like you. But why does everyone have to be the bad guy? But my, like, it's kind of crazy. Why does everyone have to play triple mind games just so she doesn't have to act like a toddler.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Is why people are confused.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

So he goes to her.

[Host 3]

He listens to the advice. He goes to her.

[Guest Commentator]

No way.

[Host 3]

And she's like, what do you want? I'm here to comfort you.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Host 3]

To be fair, also, kind of lights out up there. It's just he's too logical. And she is like, I would say.

[Host 1]

I'm more emotional than logical, but I.

[Host 3]

Still got some logic in me. None. And he's got no emotion in him. He's like, I'm here to comfort you. Beep, boop, bop. And then she's like, it has been two days. What you thought about comforting me finally today, even though he's been kind of comforting her every single day. And then he goes, I was sick. Honestly, he was sick, though.

[Host 1]

But a lot of netizens point this out. Like, she didn't even notice that he's.

[Host 3]

Sick and didn't even give a fork.

[Host 1]

So people are saying non stop. She's been saying, I have to take care of him because no one else can. And, like, it's all me.

[Host 3]

Meanwhile, everyone's like, hey, you kind of suck at what you say you're doing very well at.

[Host 1]

And he tries to bring the conversation back to the drawing because, you know, she's upset about the Valentine's Day gift of the drawing. And he's just explaining, even with the drawing, I didn't know because you were laughing a lot, and I didn't. I was misreading your laughter. And I was trying to understand what the laughter meant. So he's basically saying, like. Like, I was trying to understand what the laughter meant because at some point, you know, it obviously, like, in the beginning, it might have seemed like she was going along with the joke and she thought it was funny, or she's just trying to laugh it off. But then it got very. A lot. And, like, clearly by that point, everybody knew something was wrong. But I think it's like, it's hard to be that Quick on your feed on how to perfectly handle this situation and make everyone feel okay. So he's just explaining he misread her laughter, which a lot of netizens actually don't like him for. Because some netizens were saying if you've been with her for like 20 years, you should have a better gauge on how she's feeling in that moment. They're saying after 20 years. I mean, I feel like you have a really good gauge of like when I feel insecure, but I'm trying to laugh it off. I feel like you have a pretty good understanding. Like I feel like anytime you poke fun at me, it's like never about anything I actually care about.

[Host 3]

It's like usually just like we're making fun of each other, but you know.

[Host 1]

Exactly what makes me sad or when I feel a certain way. So people are saying, had he not been paying attention to her for 20.

[Guest Commentator]

Years because, but like, but also like it sounded like they, these problems are so big and so deep rooted, it doesn't seem like they've actually worked on any of this. Yeah, it's just been this way.

[Host 1]

And some people were also defending him, saying things like, it's not even just about misreading her laughter. It's like sometimes you don't know the perfect thing to do in that moment.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And that's also really difficult. Like things happen very quickly and maybe he thought the best for her was to just quickly bypass this conversation. Like, let's get this conversation over with.

[Host 3]

Like, hurry.

[Host 1]

And if I start commenting, it adds it, it makes it bigger. Then another person will add input. And then now this whole conversation is about Mai and she probably just wants it to be over. Right. And he thought that she was going to express how she feels because he's, he's talking like this, he's talking very, hey, like this is what happened in that moment in my brain. And so some netizens are saying it's his fault for not noticing that she was upset. Like he should have noticed from the get go and done. Something others are saying even if he did eventually notice, which is already kind of crazy, he might not have had the perfect solution. So it's, it's just like a complicated situation. But ultimately it doesn't seem like it's his fault. So they're just saying that the chill husband, when he was making fun of the portraits, it seemed like he was making of the painter. But because of Mai's deep rooted insecurities, she thought he was making fun of her. And then her Husband's not standing up for her. So it seems like very. It's something that Mai is working through, and her husband can obviously assist and help her feel more confident, but it's not because of him.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah, that's how I feel about mine personally. That's how I feel. Like, she has a lot. Obviously she has a lot of problem. A lot of things that she's working through. The way she work. Working through it is to blame it on the husband for not fixing it quickly or help her get over it quickly.

[Host 1]

And then another thing is, like, some people are saying it's one thing if he's the one that contributed or caused these problems and insecurities, but he has never said. He literally only talks about how much he loves the way she looks. So it just seems like these are her own insecurities. And she's saying it's his fault that things are happening the way it's happening. And she. Instead of having this heart to heart, because every time he tries to talk to her, he's trying to be vulnerable. He's trying to have an open conversation, an open dialogue, and she hits him.

[Host 3]

With a fucking Inquisition, like a Spanish Inquisition. She's like, you don't know why I'm angry, do you? So how do you interpret those things?

[Host 1]

How did you interpret my laughter? Like, you don't understand, but, like, you can incense my emotions.

[Host 3]

And did you do anything about it? Why didn't you do anything about it?

[Host 1]

It's just like rapid fire.

[Host 3]

Like, to the point where Leigh starts.

[Host 1]

Saying, okay, clearly something's wrong with me.

[Host 3]

Like, I. I don't get it. Like, maybe I have to go get help.

[Host 1]

And then she's like, do you really not realize that everybody is comforting me while you're, like. While they're telling you what to do with everyone's attitude? Like, have you not reflected on yourself? My biggest reflection is, I don't know how I let you become so selfish over the years. Yeah.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, my God.

[Host 1]

She says, it's your selfishness. I don't want to carry it anymore. Do you understand? It's. It's. It's more than I can carry. Like, how can I make up my mind to divorce you because of what you said to me last night? Like, you came knocking at my door. You saw how emotional I was.

[Host 3]

And the words that you said to.

[Host 1]

Me in that moment were enough to destroy me. Like, when your wife is so sad and you don't even notice, and you haven't even done a single bit of reflection, you were still Talking about your feelings. So he's like saying, this is how I was feeling in the moment and that's why I didn't do anything.

[Host 3]

And then she's like, you tore me apart yesterday.

[Host 1]

Yeah, about like the whole pointing at someone else and then saying like, here's why I did this. And then she's like, do you understand? Like, my new friends knew to come over and comfort me and you didn't. You just kept saying like, I don't understand. You're so cold blooded. Throughout her entire monologue, all the netizen.

[Host 3]

Live reactions was like, I just don't.

[Host 1]

Understand how he's still sane. People are saying like, I'm so tapped up here. And people are saying, does she not understand? The only reason people comforted her was because she was crying and she was the one making people feel uncomfortable. And then she went from being a wall to a lamppost. And now people say she's just like a black hole. She sucks energy. And you just cannot, like, it's like shouting in a black hole. Like, you cannot have a conversation. There's nothing like nothing. And people are commenting like, you want to create a scene. Lee wants to get to the root of your relationship problem. People are saying, how can she say this so confidently? It doesn't even make sense. She says, you know, after you talk to me about this whole thing, I was very sure that I wanted to divorce you. Do you understand? I think you don't love me at all. You just can't leave me because we've been living together for so long and all I do is take care of you. And everyone also pointed out that when they were making instant noodles, she doesn't even know how to make instant noodles. And also they have helpers at home to like do the housekeeping and cooking.

[Host 3]

So everyone's actually like, wait, what do you do?

[Guest Commentator]

Because that's what she made it sound like, right?

[Host 1]

Yeah, she does cooking, cleaning, everything, like wiping the baseboards, taking care of the kids. And it seems like both of them are pretty involved with the kids. So people are like, wait, when he's.

[Host 3]

Working, what are you doing if everyone's doing all the house stuff? Because the house stuff takes a lot of time too.

[Host 1]

Yeah, it takes a good chunk of the time, right? And then she's like, have you ever treated me with affection? Like, you can't just say I like.

[Host 3]

You and then choose the zoo. Everyone was like, what the fuck? She literally was like, you can't just say I like you.

[Host 1]

I like you.

[Host 3]

I like you. And then choose the zoo. I'm so afraid of animals that friends who have only been with me for.

[Host 1]

Nine days already know that I'm terrified of animals. Aren't you ashamed of yourself?

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, my gosh. She's never gonna let that go. Ever. This, this animal thing, like you have.

[Host 1]

Never put yourself in my shoes. You haven't even thought about me for a second. You want me to be like the chill wife. Yeah.

[Guest Commentator]

Name drop the other girl to buy you things.

[Host 1]

But she can go out skydiving. She can have her own time. She doesn't have to take care of so many things like I do.

[Host 3]

I've taken care of everything.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, my God. This is actually, actually, actually, like, you're.

[Host 1]

Taking things way too far.

[Guest Commentator]

You need a trigger warning before this episode.

[Host 1]

I just. Again, I don't know. Okay. Relationships are tricky. I try not to meddle in other people's relationships. Actually, Just kidding.

[Host 3]

I love meddling in other people's relationships. I try not to, though. I try not to. I try to be sympathetic of both sides of every relationship that I meddle in. But I think the way she talks.

[Host 1]

About the other wives is just very ick. Like, there's always an undertone of like, she has time, she has freedom, but I don't. And I do everything for you. So, like. But you want me to be like her. It's very. I don't know. Yeah.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

It's not like a very nice thing.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And I understand that. As someone who maybe put their career on the back burner for their husband, I think that there could be a level of resentment that you hold for your partner and that kind of relationship. But to hold that against other women who haven't chosen, that is also strange.

[Guest Commentator]

Because again, like, she has her own problems, but she's. The way she's letting that out is so bad.

[Host 1]

Yeah. It's weird. And it does seem like she's always comparing to people. And among the comments, some of them are just saying, like, in the past, she mentioned that she was a full time housewife, completely supported his career, she's given him children, is in charge of taking care of all of these meals and all of these things. It just feels like all she does is guilt trip. Later they do their little activities and then they go to eat chicken. Smoked chicken.

[Host 3]

The fucking smoked chicken.

[Guest Commentator]

Why? What's wrong with smoked chicken?

[Host 1]

Before. I'm so sorry. Before they eat the chicken, they have to go meet with a friend. So all three couples are actually gonna meet with a friend who they have both decided that they Want to meet with. And they're just going to talk and give the viewers a third party perspective of their relationship. Because you know, these people could be.

[Host 3]

Lying on the screen all they want. Like, this third party friend could be.

[Host 1]

Like, hey, just so y' all know, Lee is the worst husband I've ever seen in my life.

[Guest Commentator]

The friend is gonna talk.

[Host 1]

Yes, the friend is going to talk. And the friend is also going to describe how they feel being a third party in their relationship prior to this show.

[Guest Commentator]

Yes.

[Host 1]

And maybe some future things that they can work on before this show ends.

[Guest Commentator]

Okay.

[Host 1]

And so they're in the car. Everyone's in their separate cars. This time, Mai cannot go with someone else because you can't just show up.

[Host 3]

To another person's like relationship conversations with.

[Host 1]

Their third party friend.

[Host 3]

And her friend is also waiting for her.

[Host 1]

So she's finally in her husband's car. And in their car, he's like trying to take care of her. Her, she's like, really just a negative Nancy Debbie Downer.

[Host 3]

Like, really, I get it. I got mental health problems. I get depresso, Espresso. But like, when I. I'm trying to have fun. Like, even if you don't feel fun, try to have fun.

[Host 1]

But she's just like the whole time. And she's putting in eye drops. And he's very caring for her. He's like, do you, do you want eye drops? Like, I have a new bottle if you want it. Did you cry last night because they didn't sleep together? And she's like, no. And he's like, do you have contacts in. Some people read this. Some netizens read this as. He's so dense. Like, why would you ask if she cried last night when you probably know she cried last night? Other netizens read this as it seems like he's trying to have a chill, vulnerable conversation. So it seems like instead of being like, I know you cried last night or tell me about last night, it's like maybe he's trying to get her to talk about her emotions in a non angry way. So that's always been his thing, is he wants her to tell him her feelings without just like fucking going crazy all the time. So he's like, just like, yeah, let's just talk for once.

[Host 3]

Let's just communicate.

[Host 1]

And so she's like, no, no, ignoring him all of a sudden. Why didn't you think of picking the hot air balloon first before anybody else?

[Guest Commentator]

This happened when? Yesterday?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Literally all the panel, you see all their shoulders drop, like, oh, My God, I'm so tapped up here. Like, I gotta get out of here. This is like genuinely the only word.

[Host 1]

To describe this relationship is suffocating.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Holy. Holy. And I. Have you seen that TikTok? That's like one thing about me. The horse is dead, and I'm gonna beat it again.

[Host 3]

You know, you beat the dead horse?

[Host 1]

Horse.

[Host 3]

That's the saying, like, you get with friends and you're gonna beat the dead horse again over brunch. Have we Talked about this 20 million times? We're gonna talk about it again. We're gonna beat the dead horse one more time. We're gonna bring it back alive and beat it again. Like, people make jokes, but, like, truly, this is a lot. Like, this is too much. We gotta move on.

[Host 1]

But she.

[Host 3]

Everyone is like, here we go again. This is. This cannot be real.

[Host 1]

He tries to explain very calmly, and it's crazy that he's so calm. And he says it's because at that point, almost instantly, the chill wife and the chill husband raise their hand really high.

[Guest Commentator]

Okay. As an upgraded model, like, she's not really asking for why. Like, she don't give a fuck about why at this point. It's more so she feels some type of way about what happened. So he should have done, you know, like, for example, comfort her more, apologize or whatever it is. But the way they communicate, he's like, you asked me why, I'm just gonna tell you why.

[Host 1]

Why? Okay. Normally. Incredible. I just can't side with Mai on this one.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah, yeah, no, I. I don't think you can side with my. I'm not siding with my. What I'm thinking is, like, even if.

[Host 1]

He does that, is that what she wants? Yeah, yeah, I think so.

[Guest Commentator]

Yes. She probably wants that. But he. Even if he does that in that moment, I don't think it will satisfy her. I think it might even egger on some more. She will be like, she will go off even more and more and more and more and more because she feels maybe more validated. Like, what happened is truly, she. She's been wrong so badly. Right?

[Host 1]

Okay, so this is another thing that a lot of people were psychoanalyzing. Problem is, she desperately. She wants. And I don't know if it's for the right reasons, she wants to be Cinderella, and that's okay. Lots of girls want to be Cinderella. They want to be romance, they want gifts, they want to be spoiled, they want to be treated like a princess, and that's totally fine. I don't think anything is wrong with that, like, it might be hard to find a partner that can satisfy those demands, but I don't think these are inherently incorrect or wrong wants in a relationship. She wants all of this, and she wants a man that's like, no, everybody shut up. We're going out of the hot air balloon. That's what she wants. She wants someone to be like, I don't care about any of y'. All. I'm doing what my wife wants. Like that. That seems the vibe that she wants.

[Guest Commentator]

Damn.

[Host 1]

But when she was talking to everybody about why she fell in love with her husband, all the characteristics that she fell in love with her husband for is not what she's asking for now. So it's like she loves that he is so stable. His temperament is good. He's like, very stable in Zen. But then now she's like, why aren't you crazy? And yelling at people and rattata for the hot air balloon? For me, it's like everything you fell in love with him for, you're using against him now. Now you're saying this is the personality trait I fell in love with you for now change it.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah, but again, I. To me, it just sounds like she. Everything she says out loud, it's not even true.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator]

She say, I don't want this. I don't like this. This is not what I want. Everything just comes down to she want to compare and feel like she's better in this way than the others. Like, it's not even what she wants. It's so weird.

[Host 1]

And then I do feel like she has a hidden message in everything she says. And that hidden message changes by the hourly basis.

[Host 3]

Like, some people's hidden message don't ever change.

[Host 1]

And it's like, you know, some people.

[Host 3]

Say one thing, but you know what.

[Host 1]

They really want, and that's always been kind of who they are.

[Guest Commentator]

It's just like you said about the game that humans play. Right. Subconsciously and she play on, like, the 10x level. Like, everything is. She just needs something to justify her feeling of this.

[Host 1]

Yes.

[Guest Commentator]

And she gives it whatever reason that she can find in that moment to make it feel like she's the victim. She should be mad at the husband.

[Host 1]

And it's exhausting.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And so he's explaining to her, and I feel like anything else would not have been appropriate. Like, no, I get what you're saying. But also, it's like, come on, you're an adult. Like, you saw what happened with your own eyes. The. The chill wife was so excited, she raised her hand really high and wanted the hot air balloon. And also, you've been fucking terrorizing her.

[Host 3]

For the entire trip.

[Host 1]

So, like, maybe let her get on a hot air balloon.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Host 1]

Like, she has been nothing but gracious to you and you have been nothing but oftentimes rude. And then Yangzi is like, well, I want a horseback ride. And like, she didn't even care about horseback riding. So, like, take that out of the equation. So realistically, the only thing left is the zoo. And he said, I just wanted, you know, to make sure everything was good. Very reasonable explanation, a very normal thing. And she says, let me tell you something. This is where I'm like, girl, stop telling people anything.

[Host 3]

Stop telling people what's up here. I don't think we want to know.

[Host 1]

She said, let me tell you something. If I thought you wanted to go on the hot air balloon ride, I would have said, hot air balloon ride. And it's just like, I don't know.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[Host 1]

And then she asks, what do you think that means?

[Guest Commentator]

What do you think that means? Damn, I hate that. I hate that.

[Host 1]

And the panel goes, it's exam time again.

[Guest Commentator]

Yes. I hate that.

[Host 1]

Yeah. And another panel member is like, that I love you more that you should feel guilty because it's like, I would do it for you. Why don't you do it for me? And it's just very.

[Guest Commentator]

They nailed it.

[Host 1]

They're. They're so done with her. And even Leah's like, that you will fight for what I like, and you don't care about other people.

[Host 3]

Okay?

[Host 1]

But like, that's the thing also, I feel like you're more like that if you know that I like a hot air balloon. You'll be like, fucking hot air balloon. Right. But I am like a peacemaker. I don't like to make people uncomfortable.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah, of course.

[Host 1]

And like, there's no way that you.

[Host 3]

Can make me do that and I can make you do this.

[Guest Commentator]

And for me to know that that will make you uncomfortable, that makes me never want to do that.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator]

Because like, what the fuck? You would be uncomfortable.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator]

For me being so aggressive for what?

[Host 3]

Yeah. And it's like, not that serious. The whole point is to spend time together, not get a free hot air balloon.

[Host 1]

Rest.

[Host 3]

Like, they're pretty well off. They can just go on a hot air balloon after this trip. You know what I mean? It's like, it's okay.

[Host 1]

It's okay. And so he's, he's, he's just saying, you know, you don't care what people say and you will fight for what I like. Then why can everyone else say what they want and you can't? And the panel is like, why does she always compare him with us?

[Guest Commentator]

Yes.

[Host 1]

Like, why is it always why can't they do this? Why can't you do this? Will they do this for other people? Why don't you do this? They were ahead of me. I wouldn't have to worry about that if I had gone first. Then why didn't you go first? I mean, it wasn't like it was like literally super like hot air balloon. It was very quick. There was no like, okay, go in order.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

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[Host 1]

And there's just, like, some things you can't change about a person. And this is, like, part of his personality. And she should also know that by now. She's saying, why? Didn't you know I was angry about the portrait, what happened? But it's also, like, you should know by now that your husband doesn't really like to be confrontational, and he is probably more of a peacemaker. And she says, no, this is your flaw. You don't take my feelings into account in this relationship. That's the core issue.

[Guest Commentator]

All right, mate, we heard you.

[Host 1]

And he says, but even if I had to fight for myself for the hot air balloon, I wouldn't. Like. It's just not who I am. And then she just goes off. He's driving, and she just goes off on the side. Do you think that I'm someone who would fight for the hot air balloon with them? Don't you think that in life, I always give in to others first? Like, why am I even discussing this with you? Is the problem with the game itself? Like, why are you so lazy to even think about these issues?

[Host 3]

Like, do you agree with me then or what?

[Host 1]

And she goes on to say that he never pays attention to her.

[Host 3]

I stopped this scene multiple times.

[Host 1]

And then she hits them with something.

[Host 3]

That I really hate.

[Host 1]

She hits him with that. After we get back, let's split the money, split the kids. I don't want to be together anymore. And it's just so clear that she's using this as, like, blackmail. Like, she's just threatening him. This is not serious. She did this last time, and she's doing it again. This is not for real. And then he's like. She's like, what do you think about the kids? I don't have a problem with the money, but, like, how do you want to split the kids? And he said. What I said a few days ago is my answer. Like, I don't want a divorce. And then he says, you know, but if we must. If you're gonna divorce me, there's no way I can stop you. Then I want full custody of our daughter. So they have a daughter and a son. And then she says, I don't get it. I'm the one that gave birth to the children. Why are you fighting for custody? And he says, aren't they my children, too? I didn't say you can't see her. I know, but that's also my daughter. You can spend time with her on the weekends, and you can also see her on the weekdays. I just think that I treat our daughter better. Do I not treat her well? And this is when you see him crashing out a little. He's like, you are too emotionally unstable and you don't get her. I understand her every emotion, every gesture. You don't understand anything about our daughter. Every time she cries, Aren't I the person to comfort her? And like, again, a lot of netizens read into that comment. It didn't give me, like, he's neglectful. It gave netizens the feeling of she likes to be the savior. So she's like, no, no, let me go talk to her. Let me comfort her. Let me save my crying baby. You're doing it, but it doesn't mean you treat her best. How do I not treat her best? We don't need to talk about this right now. Why not? Aren't we talking about the kids? As someone who doesn't understand her, do you think, why do I need to understand her? And the second those words came out of her mouth, netizens were gone for good. There's really no coming back. Like, it's one thing to not care about understanding your husband, which is already like, so far gone. It's like, why are you even in this relationship then?

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah. And why are you proud of that?

[Host 1]

Yeah, like, it's something you should be ashamed of and it's something you should work on and it shouldn't even be happening. Like, it's weird. What do you mean? You don't care about your spouse like that.

[Guest Commentator]

And for someone who's constantly saying, you don't understand what I want, what I need. Come on.

[Host 1]

Yeah, but then to say as a mother, like, why do you need to understand your kids? I think that was even for netizens.

[Host 3]

Who don't have kids like that.

[Host 1]

Because everyone's been a kid. Everyone knows what it's like when your parents don't understand you and they don't care. Care to understand why you think differently? Or maybe you have certain personality traits that they can't just wish away. It was just so ick. And people are like, it would be so sad being their kids. Like, feed her to the wolves at this point is what people are commenting. Especially because this whole time, all she's done all season is harp about how she's a housewife, she's the mother of his kids, she takes care of the Kids. She does everything. And then it's like, why do I even need to understand my daughter? It's just like, whoa, so that's how you really feel? And so he tells her, you're so self righteous, like, oh, okay, you took it all on your shoulders. She's like, I'm self righteous?

[Host 3]

Do I not do everything?

[Host 1]

He's like, do you really think that you've done everything? I mean, I think I've done everything and I, I don't think I've done everything well, but I think it's not bad. There are a lot of things that I don't agree with. If I were to take over, I don't think it would be any worse than you. He's like, I don't think life would.

[Host 3]

Be any worse than if I were in charge.

[Host 1]

And then she's like, then why do you always fight for things that I want to do?

[Guest Commentator]

Wait, what, what does that mean?

[Host 1]

He's like, why? I mean, you're saying it's not that bad, it wouldn't be worse, but like, why do you keep trying to do everything I'm trying to do? And then he's like, I can't even.

[Host 3]

Fight for my job.

[Host 1]

I had no choice but to take control of your job. If you don't, it will not collapse. If it goes wrong, I will have my ways. Okay, so this is where netizens got into a fight. So some netizens are saying they got together before he made a big name for himself. And she's so aggressive. She's probably the one making sure he's not taking advantage of in contracts, making sure that he's getting money that's due. She's probably the one handling all of this because he's so passive. He probably wouldn't. But then on the flip side, other netizens are saying, but he also seems like the type that doesn't care if he creates music and makes just enough money to live.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah, yeah, no, that's how I feel too.

[Host 1]

So it's like, yes, maybe they got this far because of her. But also he doesn't seem like the type where he gives a fuck about a five million dollar apartment.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah, and we don't, we don't even know that. We don't even know what exactly she, how she helped his career. Right.

[Host 1]

If at all.

[Guest Commentator]

How much credit? Like, yeah, we're not, we don't know that. So you know, and, but the way that she takes credit on all of these things and he's just going along with it and I Don't know.

[Host 1]

And so netizens are kind of fighting about it and they're going back and forth and he's just saying, if it goes wrong, I will have my ways to fix it. Like, I have methods. If you think I'm going to make a mess, I'll clean it up myself. If I do something wrong, I will always admit it. Like, it's fine. Like, you don't have to control everything. I can handle myself.

[Host 3]

And even if the worst case scenario happens, I can fix it. Like, I know what I'm doing, doing.

[Host 1]

And she says, so I've done so much, you're not even grateful and you're complaining that I haven't done it right and not to your liking.

[Host 3]

And he's like, you can't just keep.

[Host 1]

Guilt tripping me just because you've done a lot. Did I guilt trip you?

[Host 3]

Do you think I need you to.

[Host 1]

Do these things or do you want to do it? Because there's a difference.

[Host 3]

He's like, I never asked for you to do it. You just did it. And then you want me to, like.

[Host 1]

Owe you my life for doing it. Is it possible that it's because I do it every time? He's just like, the truth is you do it every time, but I don't need you to do it all. Like, I'm willing to take on so much more. And even the panel is actually commenting. Like, I mean, the panel has been a lot more chill than netizens. Obviously they've been a lot more like neutral. But they're saying it's very crazy that he's able to be so sensible in such an insanity inducing conversation. Like, he's being relatively, like he's getting a little emotional, but he's still making a lot of sense. It's not like this outburst of like, it's just like very, like, I can handle it. Like, you just won't let me. And then you get mad that I'm not handling it and then you want.

[Host 3]

Me to owe you my life because you handle it.

[Host 1]

Finally, the conversation goes silent in the.

[Host 3]

Car and then she hits him with a. I just find it strange.

[Host 1]

Stop. She says, I just find it strange why you don't fight for your son, bruh.

[Guest Commentator]

What are we on?

[Host 1]

And he says, he has a very similar personality to you. It's not because I love him less, but you have a lot of initiative. Like, you like to take charge and you go after what you like and you stay put on. I think that kind of personality could be good for our son. Because he's similar to you. So why can't my daughter take on those aspects of my personality? And this is when where netizens were like, oh, this is bad. Because it's very clear that she's trying to. The same way she's trying to push him to change his personality to fit her. She's probably doing that to their daughter. And he tries to be nice, and he says, have you not noticed that you've tried and failed to pass on your ideas to your daughter? She's a different kind of person. She. She's the same as me. So what she needs to accept is something different. Like she's just saying, like, I don't know why that's a problem. And he's just, like, trying to explain to her. My daughter has said so many times she likes apples, but you only buy pears.

[Host 3]

And you say how pears are more.

[Host 1]

Expensive and how pears are yummier. You don't even care that she likes apples more.

[Guest Commentator]

So sad.

[Host 1]

And he starts sobbing for the first time. Oh, my God, I'm gonna cry.

[Host 3]

Just thinking about was so emotional. He's like, driving the car and he's like, my daughter is the same as me. She is my shadow. You're both different from me.

[Host 1]

Like, about the son and the wife, she's the only one who is like me.

[Host 3]

We understand each other.

[Host 1]

And so, like, netizens are saying, he's basically trying to. I think a lot of netizens didn't understand why Lee is with her. Some people thought that he's with her because he just likes having a mom take care of him. But then other netizens were like, I don't even know if she's taking care of him. And then this was the moment a lot of netizens realized it's for the kids. Yeah, it's. It's pretty clear. He doesn't want the kids to live without their mom. He doesn't want to live without their kids. He. It seems like he almost is protecting his daughter, like, trying to live his life protecting his daughter almost. It's giving, like, you can do that to me, but don't do that to my daughter. And so, yeah, it just. And the way he's sobbing. She looks disgusted. Like there is a frame of her on the side just, like, looking at him like. Like she has all of these emotional outbursts. And then he has an emotional outburst, and she's just like, oh, my God, why are you so emotional? And so she's like, okay, it's not that Serious. She's like telling him, chill out. It's like, not that serious. And all the panel is like, why didn't you calm down when he told you to calm down? And then also some netizens are like, girl, you're the one that brought up divorce. What do you mean it's not that serious? It was really sad. Like, she genuinely does not care to hear about herself. It's really weird because the other couple on the show, they all have different ways of expressing, okay, young Tzu, let's not even talk about him. But the other couples on the show, like, they have weird ways. Everyone has a different way. Some couples may not. Or some people may not have strong verbal instant reactions to these fights. Like, they might not immediately be like, okay, you know what, you're right, I'm gonna change. But usually it's like, okay, I'm gonna think about this, because this is something I should think about. And they'll think about it. But hers is just like, okay, like, that was a lot. Let's move on.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah, there's like, there's not a single moment of like self reflection, right?

[Host 1]

No.

[Guest Commentator]

Even at this type of moment.

[Host 1]

No. Yeah.

[Guest Commentator]

She probably chop it up at like he's throwing a tantrum again.

[Host 1]

Yeah. And all because of a hot air balloon ride. Ride is the craziest thing people are saying he gets emotional when it's serious and she's just upset about a hot air balloon ride.

[Guest Commentator]

Yep. That he didn't shout it out first for her.

[Host 1]

And the panel is so sick of my. They even say at this point the only way she communicates is just a string of rapid fire questions. The only way she communicates about their relationship is never like, this is how I feel. How do you feel? Or like, you made me feel this way and it made me feel sad. It's always like, why don't you? Like, just question after question after question. It's like rapid fire. Like, why didn't you understand? Why didn't you? It's like, that's the only way she communicates about their relationship. She'll communicate, but when it comes to about their relationship struggles, that's how she communicates. Just non stop questions. And they say her biggest problem is she uses being a housewife as a shield. They can never have a good relationship unless she drops that shield. Because it's always, I raised your kids. How dare you accuse me of doing anything wrong ever. I'm a housewife. Can you still say that I'm wrong of anything? They say it's like A convenient stamp from heaven.

[Host 3]

You have been decreed a housewife.

[Host 1]

I've given everything to this family. You can never argue with me. Like, it's very. Like, it's almost like how a parent act, not how spouses act.

[Host 3]

And even parents.

[Host 1]

Parents.

[Host 3]

That's so toxic. You should not be behaving like that.

[Host 1]

But that's how you know people sometimes. You know, a lot of parents will act that way.

[Host 3]

Like, I've given you everything. I've birthed you. I've raised you. I put a roof over your head.

[Host 1]

But she's, like, doing that to her.

[Host 3]

Spouse, too, which also people question, how much worse is it for her kids?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, yeah. Oh, my God.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator]

She reminds me so much of my grandma.

[Host 1]

Yes. Oh, my gosh. And. And one of the panel members just says, to be honest, I've never felt so suffocated in my life, like, just watching. And we're just outsiders. Like, we don't even have to respond to her. We don't even know her. So they get to the point where they're meeting their friend. Her name is Anna. The three of them are sitting at a table. They're supposed to have lunch while talking through their issues. And as the conversation begins, it's pretty clear that Lee is the one that does not want a divorce. So Leigh is, like, saying, I just am unable to communicate my emotions across to her, and I just have come to peace with things. Like, she'll never be happy with me, and it's fine. I will just work hard and hopefully she'll love me.

[Host 3]

Basically, like, he is very resigned to this miserable life.

[Host 1]

And my. You would think that she's like, okay, you know what? That also sucks for my husband to be so miserable in this marriage. Maybe then I should be making him.

[Host 3]

Less miserable, or maybe we should break up, because why do I want this person that I love to be miserable?

[Host 1]

But instead, she just goes on to rant to her friends. In terms of communicating and expressing himself, he's so bad. And everyone's like, girl, you're bad.

[Host 3]

Like, he actually communicates really well. He expresses emotions very well, like, you.

[Host 1]

Would think, because he's logical. He's not good at telling people how he feels and being vulnerable. He's very good. And then she's like, if I realized he was like this, I would have never married him. And even Anna is getting annoyed. And she's just expressing like, Mai needs to be more free, you know, like, make time for herself, stop centering her entire life around this relationship and her family and like, just do what she wants for once. Basically saying, stop fucking being miserable and holding it over their heads. And every time she's talking to Mai, the friend is, like, twisting a tissue in her hand, and she's so nervous.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, my God.

[Host 1]

So, I mean, it just seems like people are saying, is Mai just, like, bullying everyone? Yeah, the friend is like, you know, just. Just to be honest, I don't know if you realized it, but your love for him is kind of like a. Like a mother's love for her son. Oh, I know. Huh?

[Host 3]

You know, and even Anna is, like, at a loss for words.

[Host 1]

Like, what do you mean, you know? And why are you saying, like, I know. As if you're so proud of it.

[Host 3]

So you've always known.

[Host 1]

And Lee is like, yeah. I mean, we often joke about it, like, I'm the eldest kid at home. Do you have any reason on why this motherly love towards a son exists in this romantic relationship? And Mai says, I think it's because his parents passed very early on.

[Guest Commentator]

Of course. Of course.

[Host 1]

So do you feel obligated to take on the role of his mom? And Mai starts crying, and she's like, yeah.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, she started crying?

[Host 1]

Yeah. And everyone in the comments is like, I don't believe you. Even. Even Lee says the way she loves me is very different from how my mother loved me. And I don't know.

[Host 3]

That's really weird because I'm like, I feel like, yeah, because I feel like.

[Host 1]

If early on in our relationship, your parents passed away, I would feel obligated to support you in the grief, but.

[Host 3]

I would not feel obligated to become your mommy. Like, that's really.

[Host 1]

I don't understand.

[Guest Commentator]

She's crying. She's feeling bad for herself, right?

[Host 1]

Yeah. She's like, yeah, I feel like this is on me.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah, she. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Victimhood through the roof.

[Host 1]

And Anna is just like, well, my. That gives. That kind of love gives people a lot of pressure. Like, it just. It's. It's a lot. It's like, when you give someone that love, it doesn't feel like romantic, mutual love of connection anymore. And she's like, yeah, I know. I know what the problem is.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, yeah.

[Host 1]

And it's just like, everything. She's just like, yeah, I know. No, I know. I know. But it's like, no, we're trying to have a serious conversation.

[Host 3]

Like, it's just.

[Host 1]

It's. You know, people that receive that type of love from their partner, they can feel suffocated. They can feel like they're Being oppressed and my snaps. How am I being oppressive? Anna is, like, nervous, twisting this tissue. Like, she can't even look at Maya in the face.

[Host 3]

Like, she's just, like, she's being very stressed. Doesn't even know.

[Host 1]

She doesn't even know what to do. And so Anna is like, you know, previously, Lee was telling me, because we're all friends, that he just wants you to find happiness and for you to have your own space and your own hobbies and for you to find life outside of being a housewife that you're so good at. Like, you know, being a wife that you're so good at. And she says, yeah, I know it might sound up, but, like. Like, I. I was very upset when he told me that because it just felt like my child was growing up and was going to leave me and this relationship was going to be broken.

[Host 3]

And Anna is like, do you not see how crazy that is?

[Host 1]

And then she's like, okay, but let me tell you, it's not about a kid growing up like you. It's about your sense of loss of control. He won't be under your control anymore, and that makes you panic. Yeah, it feels like I can't hold on to him anymore. Anna is trying to get her to open up of, like, why do you want to control your husband? Like, this is your spouse. Like, that. That's not.

[Host 3]

That's not normal. Like, why do you want to control your partner?

[Host 1]

But then she would turn my turns to Lee and goes, do you think I'm controlling?

[Guest Commentator]

Here we go.

[Host 3]

Do you think that I'm, like, being oppressive?

[Host 1]

And the whole time he's just sitting there, like, staring at the ground, and then she's just like, what Anna said is accurate.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, is that what he said?

[Host 1]

Yeah. And Anna's just like, you know, it's not physical control. It's also mental oppression. And that can be terrifying. Am I. And then at one point, you know, Anna is even just saying, like, he worked so hard to create this career. And she's not saying, like, you didn't work hard, but for him, sometimes he wants to buy things. Not even that are expensive or flashy, but, like, I think, okay, I don't know if I was, like, relating, because I'm like, maybe it's like a thing, like when you're, like, creating something you like, like. Like to have certain things that remind you of certain places or, like, I don't know. Right. He's a musician. He wants to be creative. And sometimes he wants belongings that are not just material but they feel almost like creativity inducing, very spiritual and things like that.

[Host 3]

She's just like, what does he need?

[Host 1]

Just tell me what he needs then.

[Host 3]

Like, what does he need?

[Host 1]

I. I will get it. Like, just tell me what he needs.

[Host 3]

Everyone's just like, oh, my God.

[Host 1]

And then she tries to turn the conversation back about, like, how she has needs that are not being met. And then remember how she's like, I always take care of him. So Anna turns to Lee and is like, is there anything you want from her? And he said, for the past five years, I've been asking her to make me a dish of scallion noodles. They're my favorite noodles. And he just wanted to try her making it.

[Guest Commentator]

Damn, it's like the easiest thing to make.

[Host 1]

I think even I know how to make scallion.

[Guest Commentator]

Holy. It's like, all right. Oil scallion noodles and maybe some diced meat. Maybe like, it's like the most basic dish. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Host 1]

Like, you need like five ingredients. Not even. And she would just make excuse about how she's busy, how she's this, how she's that.

[Host 3]

And so people are also like, wait, I thought she's so busy taking care of him, but he can't even get like a fudgeing egg dish. Like, this is as easy as making scrambled eggs. Some people were saying on, like, netizens were saying, this is literally like tomato egg. Like, it's so simple to make. It's crazy. And she won't even do that for him.

[Host 1]

Him.

[Host 3]

But she's so busy taking care of him, she doesn't have time for herself. Like, what's happening? Something's not. The math isn't mathing.

[Host 1]

And so Anna is like, okay, well, my. If the roles were reversed and you've been asking for five years for scallion noodles, what would happen? And he didn't give it to you. And she just says like, well, then he'd be dead. And even about getting new hobbies. Anna finally calls her out and is like, you know what? I think you're just pretending to be busy. And like, what I mean by pretending to be busy is it's the kind of busyness where you, you feel like you need to feel needed. When you finally live the life that you want, you are going to be an even better mother and an even better wife. Like you. You put these so many labels on to define you, and you haven't even thought about living your own life. You need to give your husband, you need to give your children some room to breathe and to grow. Like, that is another way of showing love. And she's like, well, I haven't thought about that before. She's like, yeah, well, think about it. And she brings up the. This quote, and she says, no one is coming.

[Guest Commentator]

Who brings up Anna.

[Host 1]

Yeah. And I was like, there's this quote that I like, and it's. No one is coming. Meaning you want people to change, you gotta change first, because no one's coming to save you. No one's coming to change. Like you keep saying, well, he won't do that for me, so why should I do that for him? Like, no one's coming. And she's like, look at him. And Anna is like, no, this quote is for you. And she says, why do I always have to change?

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, my gosh. She doesn't get it.

[Host 1]

She didn't get it.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah, the black hole doesn't get it.

[Host 1]

No, but she says she gets it. And they see. They, like, play this very uplifting music. And she does. She does open up. People have comments about this. Okay, so Mai eventually does open up about how she was adopted very early on. So her biological parents, I guess they just couldn't take care of her. And so she was adopted by a family close to her. And that explains a lot of the times of why she feels the need to be frugal, because she felt like she could get discarded at any moment if she was. Maybe, I'm sure, maybe her adoptive parents, maybe they didn't even know she could hear or was listening to them. And they would say things like, oh, it's getting too expensive to raise her. And maybe they were just saying that because of financial distress.

[Guest Commentator]

She said that?

[Host 1]

No, no, she's just saying, like, the frugality comes from being adopted. And so I. I am just trying to be sympathetic.

[Host 3]

And I'm like, I don't know, maybe.

[Host 1]

Like, that made sense. Like, maybe they're saying these things where it feels like, oh, I have to be the least amount of financial burden possible ever.

[Host 3]

Ever.

[Host 1]

And so they're like, okay, maybe it's that, right? And then she's saying that. And I think that's why I'm obsessed with feeling valued, because I feel like if I have value, then, like, you can't get rid of me. I guess she maybe felt the need to always, always provide value to the adoptive family so that they can't get rid of her. And, like, that's how she is worthy of being a family member. And so when she's saying these words, a lot of Netizens, they felt really bad for her and they're like, I get it now. Like, I get it. Like, that makes a lot of sense of why she behaves the way she behaves. But then a lot of netizens were.

[Guest Commentator]

Like, yeah, just because we know why you act the way you act doesn't. Still doesn't excuse abuse the way you're acting now. Right now, she's not only. She's putting it on the husband, on all the friends, everybody around them and their kids. Hello. Yeah, this is. We can't continue the cycle. Right.

[Host 1]

And I think a lot of people were upset because a lot of people.

[Host 3]

Were like, hey, so I'm adopted and I don't bully everyone around me.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Like, I don't terrorize my husband on a daily basis. This, you know.

[Host 1]

So I think there were lots of conversations. I think it explains maybe a lot of what's happening. But I also think that she just is not open to learning communication methods, because I think those are very reasonable things. And I think if she were just to tell her husband, hey, this is how I feel. And I think it's coming from this, like, deep rooted fear that you're just gonna abandon me. I think he'd be like, oh, yeah, okay, I will stop doing that. And that makes total sense. And I feel bad that I made you feel that way. But instead, it's like she lashes out a lot and then won't even try to communicate better. But anyway, she brings this up and then they play this beautiful music and people are like, I'm gonna cry. They're improving. They're finally getting. They go on the hot air balloon ride and they're holding each other's hands. And then at the very end, they get.

[Guest Commentator]

They do the van thing. Rv. Okay, okay. And they so tell people the setup. So each couple.

[Host 1]

Okay, okay, so husband and wife, life, they each get in an RV, and these RVs, they, when they say like.

[Host 3]

Three, two, one, go, you have to.

[Host 1]

Start driving away from each other in.

[Host 3]

This, like, desert land. So cinematic.

[Host 1]

There's a timer. So let's say you have two minutes. You have to decide in two minutes if you don't stop this car and.

[Host 3]

Get out of the RV in two.

[Host 1]

Minutes, you're getting a divorce.

[Host 3]

And so you have to stop the.

[Host 1]

Car and then you have to get out.

[Host 3]

And you don't know if your partner.

[Host 1]

Is going to stop the car.

[Host 3]

You don't know if they're gonna get out. And then if they do get out, you run to each other and you embrace.

[Host 1]

And so they both get in their cars, and everyone's like, I mean, I already know where this is going. They get out and they embrace.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, immediately.

[Host 1]

Like, pretty. Instant pretty.

[Guest Commentator]

They drive, they stop. They both came out at the same time.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator]

Wow.

[Host 1]

They embrace. And so, I don't know, man.

[Guest Commentator]

Is this a happy ending or not?

[Host 1]

And so afterwards, I mean, I will say that I think Mai is a very frustrating character, but afterwards, she was.

[Host 3]

Like, getting cyberbullied and it was bad, and I was like, okay, she did not actively harm someone. Was she a burden to other castmates?

[Host 1]

Was she being inconsiderate and sometimes rude? Yes.

[Host 3]

Like, does she need to be tore up? No. Like, that's actually crazy. And so people are, like, going to her page, reporting her. They're like, emailing her, sending her message.

[Host 1]

Insanity. She has to come out with this whole video. And she's like, listen, this is like, what happened? And she brings up the adoption story, and she's explaining like, well, I'm changing now. And, you know, I. During this time while this was airing, my husband has been very helpful. And, like, things are good. We're working on it. It. And so you had some netizens that are like, okay, I feel bad for her because, you know, the adoption story makes sense. And then even all of the hate is just too much. And, like, you know what? Slay. Like, I get it. She's just having a hard time. I wouldn't want my relationship online and being dissected by Internet users, but others are saying it just doesn't matter. Like, the way she conducted herself was weird. And there's not many people in all the seasons that. That received this much passionate emotion from viewers other than her. And like, Yang Zi, all the other couples, it's like, so clear. Sometimes they be saying stuff in the.

[Host 3]

Relationship where it's like, yikes, that wasn't nice.

[Host 1]

Right? But it's also, like, you kind. It's very easy to understand because everyone has been in some form of a relationship. So you get it to some degree of, like, yeah, sometimes you're not perfect in a relationship.

[Host 3]

But with her and Yang Zi, they're like, y' all are so messy. See, it's kind of.

[Host 1]

I don't know what to say about it. So it's just. I do think that the netizen were a little nicer afterwards. After her adoption story comes out and she's telling them more about it. She goes on a weight loss journey. She goes on a few more variety shows. She lost a Lot of weight. And she comes onto the reunion show and she says, you know, things have been good. She made him scallion noodles and they're working on their relationship. And she said it was, it was like an eye opening experience to see the show.

[Guest Commentator]

So you think it took like the whole Internet to tell her that she's wrong for her to realize? Because it seems like this whole trip what everybody told her, but she just like, doesn't matter.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I think she's so strong of a personality that no one can tell her to her face that she's wrong. And like I am on this sentiment. Like when I see someone with a strong personality, sometimes I just can't say.

[Host 3]

It to their face.

[Host 1]

It's so hard. Especially when it's like you don't feel like it's your place. And her husband clearly doesn't say it to her face. And even if he did, I don't think she would care. So, like, no one can say it to her face.

[Host 3]

And then finally the Internet was like.

[Host 1]

I'll say it to your face. I'll say it to your face. Do I think it's okay? No. I just hope that she's in a better place now. So that's what it seems like. She said it was one of the darkest periods of her life because of all the comments that she was reading. And it was just really dark. Dark. But then now, you know, she has worked on self improving. She is getting into fitness, she's getting into making sure her relationship is good. She's focusing on herself and she just wants to make the best of life.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah, that sounds about right.

[Host 1]

Like, yeah. I mean, some people are skeptical still. Some people are skeptical that that whole end scene was scripted.

[Guest Commentator]

The re embracing is scripted or not.

[Host 1]

The re embracing, but the whole thing with a friend. Some people just think, think it's weird. Some people thought that it was just so sudden that she's like, you know what, you're right. You're right, I'm gonna do better. All of a sudden when this whole time she never even thought about it and then she suddenly wants to do better. Some people saw like discrepancies of like the bags change when they're talking to the friend. I don't know. It was just. There's conspiracies out there that it might be scripted. I think the only lesson there were some netizens pointing this out. And I agree with it. The lesson is not about mine. Like, the lesson is not about is my a good person is my a bad person should we comment on my. I think the lesson ultimately at the.

[Host 3]

End is just like, you just have to take care of yourself.

[Host 1]

Otherwise you just cannot take care of anyone else. And it seems like Maya's finally taking care of herself. And she seems really happy. She has more followers than her husband, by the way. She also got.

[Host 3]

Yeah, I know.

[Guest Commentator]

What a tournament.

[Host 3]

I know.

[Host 1]

Everyone's like, suddenly she's the breadwinner.

[Host 3]

They said, suddenly she's happier.

[Host 1]

Suddenly she said house husband.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah, that might actually, that might be something.

[Host 3]

I honestly think they would do better that way.

[Host 1]

Right. Like, some couples have that vibe. He just is so, like, I feel like he would be best.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah. Just do his own thing without.

[Host 1]

Yes.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And she gives me.

[Guest Commentator]

Maybe she will be more relaxed.

[Host 3]

Oh, yeah. Like, I gotta run 12 businesses and I want to boss around 50 employees. Like, I think she'll come home so happy and she'll be like, hey, babe.

[Host 1]

I just yelled at an employee.

[Host 3]

High five.

[Guest Commentator]

That's crazy.

[Host 3]

Yeah, that's the vibe she gives me. Is that okay, by the way? No, but you get what I'm saying.

[Guest Commentator]

Wow.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator]

Okay.

[Host 1]

And so a lot of people are.

[Host 3]

Actually really happy for her.

[Guest Commentator]

Damn.

[Host 1]

Yeah, they're like, I'm just glad that.

[Host 3]

You'Re learning from it because I don't think.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Young jizz. So if you want to see.

[Host 1]

What'S.

[Host 3]

Happening over there, let me know so I can just. I'm gonna need a little more therapy though. But I'll get there. Let me know in the comments. I hope you guys enjoyed it. I'll see you in the next one.

[Host 1]

Bye. I feel like I'm about to have a stroke. Okay.

[Host 3]

Hey, neighbor.

[Host 2]

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