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This week, we’re down in Nashville with The Maine’s John O'Callaghan and Pat Kirch talking about what it’s really been like growing up in a band for almost 20 years, more or less. From touring as dads to building the kind of community that keeps fans coming back generation after generation (shout-out 8123 family), this episode is all about belonging and connection. Pat and John open up about making their 10th album, Joy Next Door, a record that pushed them to slow down in new ways. This conversation is a reminder that joy often lives in the little moments, even right next door. 🔗 More or Less Links:Follow us on social media by clicking here.Rate & subscribe to our show on Spotify and YouTube.🔗 The Maine Links:Stay connected with The Maine here.Credits:🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

Daisy Grenade's Keaton + Dani join us for a conversation on friendship, theater roots, and building a band from a backyard show in Queens to their first-ever, upcoming headline tour.We dive into life on the road, the intensity of touring, and how they protect their mental health through rest and routine. Keaton also opens up about her sobriety journey and lessons learned along the way. This one's all about growth, intention, and trying to create art with presence and a sense of purpose.🔗 More or Less Links: • Follow us on social media by clicking here. • Rate & subscribe to our show on YouTube.🔗 Daisy Grenade Links: • Stay connected with Daisy Grenade here.Credits:🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

Ahead of his debut album, Orchid, Matt Hansen joins More or Less with Jess for a vulnerable conversation. After a viral TikTok cover of “Godspeed” changed his life overnight, @matthansen has gone on to sell out tours across three continents, reach over 6M monthly Spotify listeners, and build his career fully on his own terms as an independent artist. In this episode, Matt opens up about sustaining success in today's music industry while navigating being both CEO and artist. We dive into the catharsis of songwriting and how learning to let go has shaped his sense of self. This conversation is a reminder of how embracing discomfort can lead to the most growth. 🔗 More or Less Links:Follow us on social media by clicking here.Rate & subscribe to our show on Spotify and YouTube.🔗 Matt Hansen Links:Stay connected with Matt here.Credits:🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

The last time Em Beihold was on More or Less, her breakout single Numb Little Bug was everywhere. Since then, life has changed and she’s no longer “a little bit tired of life.”Back with her debut album Tales of a Failed Shapeshifter, Em opens up about depression, jealousy, and the pressure to recreate viral success. She shares her experiences with outpatient therapy, medication, and navigating identity as a 'pop girl'. As our first returning guest, Em and Jess discuss growth, healing, and what it really means to be a “mental health advocate." 🔗 More or Less Links:Follow us on social media by clicking here.Rate & subscribe to our show on Spotify and YouTube.🔗 Em Beihold Links:Stay connected with Em here.Credits:🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

Travie McCoy of Gym Class Heroes joins Jess for an incredibly candid conversation on moving from the chaos of fame to living fully in simplicity. The frontman reflects on intense isolation, periods of self-medicating, and how addiction shaped his twenties.Best known for hits like Cupid’s Chokehold and Billionaire, Travie spills the story behind the name Gym Class Heroes and reminisces about iconic moments on Warped Tour and Jingle Ball. Disclaimer: This episode reflects personal experiences with substance use and addiction and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult a qualified healthcare professional. 🔗 More or Less Links:Follow us on social media by clicking here.Rate & subscribe to our show on Spotify and YouTube.🔗 Travie McCoy Links:Stay connected with Travie here.Credits:🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

Alec Duckart, the creative force behind Searows, talks creativity, identity, and songwriting. We dive into his latest cinematic album, finding community in the music industry, and the freedom of genre-bending. This episode is a refreshing reminder to take a deep breath & remain present when life feels overwhelming.🔗 More or Less Links:Follow us on social media by clicking here.Rate & subscribe to our show on Spotify and YouTube.🔗 Searows Links:Stay connected with Alec here.Credits:🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

In honor of World Mental Health Day, we brought the More or Less community together IRL for a night of honest conversation, music, and connection. Joined by singer-songwriter Rosie, this unforgettable evening featured a live podcast recording, audience Q&A, and a stunning performance.Jess reflects on the past five years of More or Less....the growth, the challenges, and what it truly means to hold space for others. Over the past few years, Rosie has brought a new definition to “unfiltered,” choosing not to edit her photos or wear makeup and embracing her natural features. Navigating depression and anxiety, she opens up about her mental health journey, sharing how she practices self-compassion and manages her inner critic.Here’s to creating space for mental health and another five years of conversations like this one. 💛Credits:Host & Executive Producer: Jessica McDevittLead A/V Producer & Editor: Remy HernandezAssistant Camera: Miles KellyLocation: The Bridge Studio

Six months into performing, Daya was already playing arenas and winning a GRAMMY - all before she turned 18. She then made the bold choice to pause and rediscover who she was beyond the spotlight.Nine years later, she returns with a new album, Til Every Petal Drops - her deepest project yet. In this episode, Daya opens up about her early success with “Hide Away” and “Don’t Let Me Down,” growing up in the public eye, and how stepping away helped her find a more grounded version of herself.A conversation on fame, identity, healing, and the power of leaning on your support system through it all.🔗 More or Less Links:Follow us on social media by clicking here.Rate & subscribe to our show on Spotify and YouTube.🔗 Daya Links:Stay connected with Daya here.Credits:🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

Multi-platinum, GRAMMY-nominated Mary Lambert first captured hearts with Macklemore’s “Same Love.” Now, she’s back with her powerful new single “The Tempest” and a full album on the way.Mary opens up about her lifelong journey of healing…from confronting shame and embracing self-compassion to living authentically. She reflects on the activism that shaped her career and the liberating act of producing her own music.In this episode, she and Jess explore the intersectionality of mental health, body image, altruism, and creativity. They talk about staying grounded and intentional in a world that often demands performance over presence, the role of community and creativity in healing, and the power of giving yourself permission to feel it all.If this conversation brings up heavy feelings, you are not alone: text HOME to 741741 (Crisis Text Line) or call RAINN at 1-800-656-HOPE (4673) for confidential support.🔗 More or Less Links:Follow us on social media by clicking here.Rate & subscribe to our show on Spotify and YouTube.🔗 Mary Lambert Links:Stay connected with Mary here. Credits:🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

Debbii Dawson was born with music in her DNA... literally, her mother gave birth on tour (Debbii's parents were traveling musicians!)This first-generation singer-songwriter has toured the globe alongside The Beaches, Orville Peck, and Role Model. A gifted lyricist, she finds songwriting inspiration from quiet observers like Emily Dickinson.In this episode, Debbii opens up about growing up with music, navigating nerves + social anxiety, and finding joy in the small moments. 🔗 More or Less Links:Follow us on social media by clicking here.Rate & subscribe to our show on Spotify and YouTube.🔗 Debbii Dawson Links:Stay connected with Debbii here. Credits:🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez