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China Squashes Meta's $2B AI Deal & MAHA Moms Rage Against Pesticides
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China Squashes Meta's $2B AI Deal & MAHA Moms Rage Against Pesticides
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n Good morning Brew Daily Show. I'm Neal Freyman.
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And I'm Toby Howell.
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Today, Maha and Trump clash at the Supreme Court over pesticides.
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Then how GLP1 drugs are shaking up the wedding dress industry. It's Tuesday, April 28th. Let's ride.
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Good morning. Okay, here's a wild story about how a missed field goal kick may have saved a man's life. Yesterday, the AP revealed the remarkable tale of Mark Toothaker, a thoroughbred trainer in Kentucky. Last December, he was watching a New York Giants game on tv. Kicker Young Way Koo whiffed on a field goal kick, causing him to laugh really hard. And I mean really hard. That laugh triggered a seizure that sent him to the hospital where doctors discovered a tennis ball sized tumor in his brain. It was removed and he was home by the end of the week. Toothacher credits this hilariously botched kick with saving his life, considering he had no clue this tumor was even there. Toby, this may be the Giant's most positive contribution to society in the last decade.
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So? So Toothacher works with thoroughbred horses and his most successful one is Further Ado, which is running in the Kentucky Derby this weekend. And I feel like you got to back it. It has spades of good luck attached to it. At this point, Toothaker also invited KU to be his guest at the Kentucky Derby. He hasn't responded yet and is currently without an NFL team, actually. So maybe he's not seeing the bright side of this story like the rest of the people are. But now, without further ado. Honestly, a word from our sponsor, Windmill. Hey Neil, how often do you sneeze at home?
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China just poked the guy who invented poking In a surprise move yesterday, the Chinese government ordered Mark Zuckerberg's Metta to unwind its $2 billion acquisition of Manus, an AI startup that makes agents. The breakup order, which cited national security, seems designed to keep Beijing's homegrown technologies out of the hands of American companies as the US China air race heats up. Not that it will say that explicitly in a one sentence notice. China's powerful National Development and Reform Commission ordered the deal to be unwound, saying the decision was made in accordance with laws and regulations. If Meadow were to follow through, it'd be a more daunting operation than organizing all the stuff accumulating in your parents basement. This deal closed four months ago. The capital has been transferred. Manus's employees have started working for Metta. Investors have been paid out. It's an absolute nightmare. In a statement, Metta was vague about its plan, saying that its transaction complied with applicable laws and that it expected a resolution to Beijing's inquiry. That China stuck it to the menace now is probably not a coincidence. President Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping are holding an IRL summit next month, and each side is jockeying for leverage ahead of the meeting.
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I think that's the big question. Can this deal actually be reversed or is it more symbolic in nature? Because a lot has already been exchanged. As you mentioned, there's been a human exchange with workers, you know, moving to Singapore and becoming integrated in the Meta teams. There's been a technology exchange already. It's very integrated into Meta's product suite at this point. So if you force Manus's founders to return the money to return to China, you're basically handing over a lot of that technology for free in the process. So some industry watchers are saying this is probably more symbolic than actually practical because of just how deeply these companies have already integrated.
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But the Wall Street Journal reported overnight that Metta is preparing to unwind its acquisition. That is the heft of Chinese regulators. So a little background on Manus. What is it? Well, it started as a Separate company in 2022 and they launched Manus in March 2025. It's an AI agent that went viral on X and other social platforms because it kind of just takes over your computer and accomplishes all of these tasks that you would have to do on your own. And what they did was try to create a break is comprised many of Chinese nationals, especially at the executive level. But they actually moved to Singapore to try to establish a break from China because they wanted to court outside investors like Benchmark, which is a Silicon Valley firm. And they wanted to get, you know, American capital. And like many Chinese companies or many overseas companies, they want that Silicon Valley money. And then Metta in this big race for AI agents with Anthropic and Google and Chat and OpenAI bought it earlier this year for $2 billion. Now it looks like they may have to unwind it.
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China though, does have immense regulatory power because you just think back to some of the other crackdowns that have happened in Beijing. Jack Ma, which was the co founder of Alibaba, he wanted to bring ANT Group to ipo and it was going to be one of the biggest IPOs of all time. This was back in 2020. Regulators stepped in at last moment. Jack Ma kind of disappeared from the public eye for a long time. That IPO didn't never happen. So this is something that they do from time to time exert their regulatory might over big financial transactions. So it's not out of the ordinary for China to do something like this. But also it's kind of like a spider man pointing meme. The US would do something likely very similar if one of the buzziest AI companies in the world sold to a Chinese entity.
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So they would not let that happen.
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Yeah, it absolutely would not fly here. So it's kind of going both ways in this geopolitical.
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But here's the thing. Metta doesn't have any operations in China because they're blocked. There's no Instagram or Facebook in China. And then Manus is in Singapore. So it is a little unusual in the sense that they're probably going to a level that they haven't got before. I'm talking about Chinese regulators to unwind this deal between a company that doesn't even operate in China and a company that also doesn't even have its headquarters in China. And it shows the depths of concern about China and the United States also about giving AI technology to their geopolitical. Rival. And it's really a message that's. That's being sent to a bunch of other Chinese AI startups that, like, don't, don't give your technology to the Americans. Because we are in this heated race and especially ahead of this big meeting coming up next month, we need all the leverage we can get to talk about trade and talk about technology transfers and things like that. So really, this is a big message sent.
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The Supreme Court heard a case yesterday about tech companies getting all up in your business. The practice of geo fencing was the topic of debate. A technique that lets law enforcement see where your phone has been, which can be used to determine who was near a crime scene. A lot of tech companies have settings that, when enabled, track your location every few minutes if you have an active cell phone. When Google rolled out the feature In 2019, around 500 million people voluntarily opted in. But as technology has evolved, the fourth Amendment, which bans unreasonable searches of people and their property, has struggled to keep up. It's the central question of yesterday's case, which deals with a bank robbery in a tiny Virginia town. When the case went cold, police applied for a geofence warrant. Google complied a masking three potential users, leading to the eventual confession and arrest of Okello Chatri. The defense is arguing that the warrant to search geofencing data was unconstitutional and because it allowed law enforcement to cast too wide a net and search too many people's cell records. Meanwhile, the government is saying that, hey, Chatri opted into location tracking and in doing so, waived any right to privacy in the process. Neal, a very relevant question right now. Is the power tech companies possess to snoop on your cell phone, constitutional or not?
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Yeah. So here's how a geofence works. Or actually, let's start with a traditional warrant. A traditional warrant is there's an identified suspect based on probable cause that they committed a crime, and you can go sear things. Well, a geofence basically operates in reverse. You start with the area and not the suspect. You basically geofence. It's kind of what it seems like. You draw a virtual fence or a boundary around a geographic area, say, this bank, and then you ask Google to give all of the device information that has on everyone who is in that particular geographic area, say, during a given time, say before or after the crime was committed. So you can imagine that while, yes, you can probably get the suspect, but at the same time, you're getting tens of thousands, millions above other information on people who have nothing to do with anything. And that's what really raises privacy concerns?
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Yeah, Chattery's team is saying it's like trawling, where you bring a giant net behind a fishing boat and you just catch everything behind you. And that is unconstitutional because you're searching too many data. But the government's argument is like, this isn't even a search under Fourth amendment purposes, because when you allow a tech company to collect your data, you are doing so voluntarily too. So US Solicitor General told the Supreme Court that Chatri took no steps to protect his location from disclosure, such as pausing the location history feature he had enabled or adjusting, deactivating or forgoing his cell phone during, during the crime. Basically saying he could have left his cell phone at home if he didn't want to be targeted in this way. He could have not opted into this location tracking feature. He did none of those things. So he has foregone his right to privacy.
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So what is the tech company's position here? Because they are kind of central to this case. Well, Google has not taken a position one way or the other, offered this vague statement saying it advocates for robust Fourth Amendment protections for sensitive data like location history, and that it has objected to thousands of geofence warrants in the past that it thought were too broad or overboard. And in fact, it doesn't even keep your location data in its cloud anymore. So it doesn't even do this. Other tech companies do, but Google has now started storing in its data on your device itself. So it says, like, we don't even have anything to do with this anymore, but Snapchat, Lyft, Apple, Microsoft, Yahoo, every tech company collects your data these days. So it remains very relevant.
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I think the big issue too is that the Fourth Amendment is old. I mean, it was ratified in 1791, and technology has changed a lot in that time. What do you do with GPS trackers? What do you do with chats, with artificial intelligence bots, with ring door cameras? These are new frontiers that the amendment was, was not necessarily built for. And which is why we keep bounding up against, like the upper bounds of what a search is, what a warrant is, and it just changes in this area of rapid technological advancement.
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Right. Very interesting to see the difference between physical records like the papers you have in your house, which is probably very relevant, was in 1791, but is not as relevant today when all of our stuff is stored in tech. Moving on. That wasn't the only high profile Supreme Court case kicking off yesterday. Arguments began on a pesticides trial that's causing a schism between the make America Healthy Again movement and the Trump administration it once embraced. The case centers on glyphosate, the most widely used herbicide in the United States and the active ingredient in Roundup, developed by Monsanto and now owned by German chemicals giant Bayer. Bayer has spent the last many years defending itself against hundreds of thousands of lawsuits over Roundup, which has been linked to cancer. And it's asking the Supreme Court to toss out most of that litigation. Enter the Maha moms. These acolytes of RFK Jr. Hate glyphosate for infiltrating the food system. They hate that the Trump administration is backing Bayer in this case, and they hate that Trump has promoted American production of glyphosate. They staged a protest outside of the Supreme Court building yesterday dubbed People versus Poison, chanting slogans like Round up the Guilty and Make Monsanto pay. Protest organizer Vanny Hari said the Trump administration should know that siding with Bayer over American families is a losing position. People expect leadership that puts their health first and foremost, not policies that protect corporations from being held responsible. Bayer has maintained throughout its legal ordeal that Roundup does not cause cancer and says it's backed up by the US EPA and European regulators who've said it's unlikely to be carcinogenic. Toby, the lesson here, do not get on the Maha mom's bad side.
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Yeah, they are a force to be reckoned with, and that is what they are counting on, that they can exert pressure on the Trump administration to kind of walk back some of its support of glyphosate. Crucially, though, this case that is before the Supreme Court is not about whether glyphosate causes cancer. It's actually dealing with a federal law that was passed in 1972 and whether that supersedes the ability of individual states to set their own rules when it comes to product labeling. So Bayer's argument is like, hey, we need this federal law, because if not, we're dealing with a patchwork environment that makes it very difficult to actually figure out how to label stuff from state to state. So that is what they are arguing, while the subtext is that glyphosate is a very hot button issue that is becoming more relevant, especially as we enter midterm elections.
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Don't gatekeep the name of this act because it's a very interestingly named law. It's the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide act, or FIFA. I didn't learn about that in Schoolhouse Rock, but it's a thing, and that's central to this Supreme Court case. So pressure has been building around this issue for months. Last year, a big landmark paper saying that glyphosate did not cause cancer, was not carcinogenic was retracted over months over alleged Monsanto's involvement in it. And then the other big thing that happened was that the Trump administration came out and actually wanted to promote glyphosate production in the United States, citing national security. Meanwhile, RFK Jr. Is here talk, you know, trying to defend glyphosate where he has been an environmental lawyer, help someone win a $290 million around glyphosate A couple of years ago. So he's stuck in the middle with the Maha people and the Trump administration. So, yeah, the Trump administration all in on glyphosate and. And its Maha base all in against it.
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Yeah. Just doubling down on why the Trump administration would be for glyphosate at all. You mentioned national security. Because they're saying that we could destabil. Destabilize the American food supply if you leave crops vulnerable to weeds, to vermin, to the things that glyphosate protects against. So they're taking a very, you know, rational approach to it versus the health approach. And you're all right. RFK Jr. Finds himself caught in the middle trying to speak out of both sides of the mouth, defend, you know, his previous stances on glyphosate, but also align with the current administration talking points. It is a very interesting subtext heading into midterm elections. All right, we're going to take a quick break and come back with Toby's Trends right after this. Neil, it feels like everyone's trying to get more protein these days.
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Yeah, I've seen protein popcorn, protein cookies, and even a protein martini recently.
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I think I'll stick to Flav cities all in one. Protein smoothies. They've got delicious flavors like mint chocolate, banana bread, brownie batter, and more that are as good as any dessert. No martini flavor yet.
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one in the first place, this is causing chaos. Let's look at David's Bridal, which is the US's largest wedding dress retailer. Typically, people come in five to six months to shop for their wedding dresses. Now it says brides are coming in like 45 days before their wedding. Rush orders, which have a turnaround within four weeks of a wedding, are up 50% in the last two years. It's paying overtime for its alterations specialist as 3,000 of them. So David's Bridal is just kind of symbolic of many of the. And then there's plenty of smaller businesses that probably this is even a bigger inventory challenge. The way GLP ones are just totally shaking up the way people shop for wedding dresses.
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And the issue is that you face with an unwinnable situation because either you don't take the dress back or you don't alter the dress and you risk running into negative reviews or you do refund the dress, and that means you lost out on a lot of money right there. So it's a Cat 22 situation. I also just feel bad as a groom, as a, as a groom to be, because altering a tuxedo is a lot easier to do. I mean, if push comes to shove, you can even have a rental come in with your size. It's not that hard to alter. But these dresses are, you know, up to $10,000, where every stitch is matters. And you can't just, you know, make it 3 inches smaller if, if necessary. I also, when I got fitted for a tuxedo for my upcoming wedding, they said the only measurement that you can't really change very easily is the measurement across your chest.
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So lay off the bench.
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And that's what I said. I was like, oh, man. I was trying to actually beef that up a little bit. So very different struggles. It's much more difficult to alter a wedding dress than a tuxedo.
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And I kind of have an adjacent trend to tack on, which is the booming demand for tailoring and tailoring. You know, you can be with a dress and your, your tuxedo is, you know, those are far more in demand now because of GLP1s, but also the rise of, of resale. Nordstrom has this new program with New York's Fashion Institute of technology. There's 15 spots for a sort of an apprenticeship for alterations in tailoring. Well, they had 190 applications. So tailoring is booming from GLP1s and, and from resale and a host of other factors because a lot of tailors, a lot of tailors are retiring Right now, they're boomers and there's not really a new class of younger tailors. So this is a big occupation in demand right now. And if you know your way around a needle, could be something interesting to look into.
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It's also seen as a very anti, anti air job at this point. Like, you're always going to need someone who can hem some pants, who can, you know, adjust the waistline here and there. So if you're looking for a job that won't be replaced anytime soon, maybe look at tailoring. Let's sprint to the finish with some final headlines. The King and Queen are coming to town. King Charles and Queen Camilla landed in Washington yesterday afternoon for a four day state visit to try and smooth over a relationship damaged by tensions in the Middle East. The timing is, in a word, delicate. It's week eight of Trump's war with Iran, a war Britain has refused to join, prompting Trump to spend months calling PM Keir Starmer a coward and trash talking the Royal Navy. The Pentagon has floated yanking US Support for British sovereignty over the Falkland Islands as punishment. So the King is coming to try and create the sort of mano a mano photo op that Trump likes to charm. Trump. While things remain testy with Starmer, Trump, Melania, Charles and Camilla, now that's an afternoon tea session in all senses of the word.
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I mean, I really need to hear what these guys are talking about. They, Trump and Charles could not be any different. Just look at the books they wrote. So Charles wrote a book called Harmony, A New Way of Looking at Our World. And Trump three years earlier wrote a book called Think Big and Kick Ass In Business and in Life. Trump calls climate change a hoax. Charles thinks it's a. We're carrying out a vast, frightening experiment on the planet, he said. And then Trump says that windmills are pathetic. But seems that Trump has a very special reverence for the English monarchy stemming from his mom. When Queen Elizabeth the Second was on television, he's told this anecdote. Trump's mom would say, everybody be quiet. We're listening to the Queen. You have to respect the Queen. So maybe they'll get along. Because for some, Trump, yeah, does not seem to like the Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, but it seems like he has deeper respect for, for the King and the Queen. Very interesting. Well, I wonder, I do wonder what they're going to talk about. Okay, up next, Spotify is like you every January 1st and getting into fitness for real this time. The audio streamer is continuing its expansion into new domains by aiming to become your home for workouts, it's partnering with popular Internet creators to offer their content within Spotify. Plus, it inked a deal with peloton to bring 1400 free on demand workout classes to Spotify premium subscribers to Clearly, Spotify has seen a lot of success with its workout playlist. There are over 150 million of them on the platform now. It's doubling down.
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Yeah, it makes sense. I mean, everyone listens to music while working out, so it's not a quantum leap to say, maybe we should offer this workout content ourselves within our app. It's part of Spotify's push to become more of a all encompassing compassing multimedia service to compete with the likes of YouTube. They've been investing very heavily in video podcasts as well. So that's what's in it for Spotify. Makes a ton of sense. And then Peloton is like, heck yeah, we want this. It drastically helps it increase its global reach. Right now, Peloton only operates in six countries. If they go into 180 markets where Spotify is available, that is a big win for them. And we actually saw Peloton stock jump as much as 11% on news of this partnership rolling out. So it seems like a win win for both parties.
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Finally, the newest sensation in San Francisco has nothing to do with AI or technology at all. He is a 2000 pound sea lion named Chonkers. Chonkers swam up to a dock and Pier 39amonth ago and hasn't left, drawing hundreds of onlookers and being heaped with praise in all the local blogs. Sea lions are a common sight on San Francisco piers, but none are as chonky as Chonkers, who was given his name by a Reddit poster, official Latin name Chonkist Maximus. And why is he so chunky? Well, Chonkers is a different species than the typical San Francisco sea lion, a stellar meaning he's up to three times the size as the others. Which raises the question, is this the first time a sea lion has been peacocking?
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So sea lions are. I just learned this word figmo tactic, which is a scientific term according to the New York Times, for very social creatures who like to cuddle. And so because they like to cuddle, they often hoist themselves up onto these docks and these floating piers. And that makes everyone very excited because it's very funny to see these big animals kind of jumping on each other. But one person is really nervous is Sheila Kander, who's the harbor master for Pier 39. She's like we did not build these floats for 2,000 pound animals. So every time Chonkers gets out of the water, she's kind of closing her eyes because the dock might sink because he is just so gosh darn chunky.
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Love everything about Chonkers. If you're listening in San Francisco and get near I'm so snap a pic and send it to us. Okay? That is all the time we have. Thanks so much for starting your morning with us and have a wonderful Tuesday. If you'd like to reach us, send an email to Morning Brew daily at Morning Broadcom or DM us on Instagram at me Daily show let's roll the credits. Emily Milian is our supervising producer. Raymond Lu is our senior producer. Our producer is Olivia Graham and our associate producer is Olivia Lake. Hair and makeup is cuddling with chalkers. Devin Emery is our president and our show is a production of Morning Brewing.
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Great show, Danielle. Let's run it back tomorrow.
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