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Neal Freyman
Good morning, Brew Daily Show. I'm Neal Freyman.
Toby Howell
And I'm Toby Howell.
Neal Freyman
Today inflation was more mild than under seasoned potatoes, teeing up a Fed rate cut next month.
Toby Howell
Then Elon Musk claims that Apple and Open Air in cahoots suppressing his AI chat bot in the App Store. It's Wednesday, August 13th. Let's ride.
Neal Freyman
You've heard on this podcast that Las Vegas is in a major tourism slump this summer, but it might be able to turn things around with some help from tigers and lions and bears. Oh my. Sphere, the futuristic sphere shaped venue just off the Strip, announced this week that it had sold 127,000 tickets to its showing of the wizard of Oz, which debuts on August 28th. The Sphere and a team of engineers used AI to widen the 1939 film's frames to fit the ginormous screen, with the goal of making you feel like you were in the studio when the movie was being made. James Dolan, CEO of Sphere and owner of the Knicks, says he thinks the wizard of Oz will boost the share of people traveling to Las Vegas just for the sphere to 10% from 7% currently, as long as people don't balk at the price, which starts at over $100 for a single showing. He might be right.
Toby Howell
He might be right, but I have also seen a lot of backlash from film buffs online because obviously when you change the scope of a shot, you're changing the feel of a movie. So Slate wrote an article that was titled the Much Hyped New wizard of Oz is an Atrocity. Other reporters who got a sneak peek called it gross and disrespectful and an affront to art in nature. Personally, I think it's going to be cool. It has 4D elements, so you'll see fire, you'll get tornado like gusts of wind. Flying monkeys will actually come out filled with heliums piloted by drones and kind of swoop down over the audience. So again, not something the film elites are going to like, but maybe the masses, including myself or.
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September is right around the corner and there is a lot to look forward to. The humidity is going to be down, football and PSLs are back, and in all probability the Federal Reserve will lower interest rates A rate cut was effectively locked in yesterday after July's inflation report arrived, mostly in line with expectations. The Consumer Price index showed that US prices rose 2.7% annually, the same inflation rate as in June, and a hair below expectations of a 2.8% increase. Core CPI, the closely watched measure that strips out food and energy, rose 3.1% year over year. That's a tad above projections of 3%, but nothing alarming. Economists have warned that President Trump's tariffs would force businesses to pass on their added cost to consumers, driving inflation higher. But so far this summer, we've seen a mild, if any, impact on prices for goods vulnerable to tariffs. Furniture and bedding rose 0.9%, but apparel was up just 0.1% on the month, the smallest increase since May. Tire were up 1%, but appliances prices fell 0.9% and new vehicle prices were flat. So if you were looking for a meaningful uptick in prices due to tariffs, you're reading the wrong inflation report. Yesterday's presented no clear evidence of tariff fueled inflation. And that's great news for the Fed, which has kept interest rates steady this summer over concerns that tariffs plus a rate cut would equal another inflation surge, with price increases Subdued for now at least. Investors are penciling a more than 90% chance to the Fed cuts when the leaves start changing in September.
Toby Howell
Yeah, this was an interesting inflation report because we didn't see a ton of goods inflation, but we did see some rather hot services inflation. That is a little bit of a surprise because you would expect when tariffs enter the global economy that would increase the price of goods. But is this good that we're seeing services run a little hotter? Who really knows? Because the Fed actually does place more emphasis on services. Remember that so called core inflation metric that they do love looking at the strips out food and energy that places a larger value on services. So to see that running a little bit hotter, that's just another thorn in their side Again. September's rate cut meeting looks to be all but wrapped up. It looks like I just called it a rate cut meeting even though it is not that. But it just complicates the timeline going forward. Like what happens later on in the year if this services inflation remains sticky.
Neal Freyman
Yeah, so services excluding energy jump 0.4%, which is the most since the start of the year. Shelter was the main contributor to that rising 0.2% in July. That's essentially housing. Some other big jumps included airline fares were up 4%, their biggest monthly increase in over three years. So hope you got your fall vacation plans already booked. And also better hope you don't have a cavity because dental services rose the most ever, a 2.6% increase. Hope you've been brushing, Toby.
Toby Howell
I do have a cavity. That's what's so frustrating about this. Some goods that did run hot that you would expect tariffs to affect are those household furnishings and supplies. Those rose almost a percent. Footwear prices were also up. And then motor vehicle parts were up almost 1% as well, driven by that cost of tires that you mentioned. But the auto market in general is just in a little bit of an interesting place. Forecasts, industry forecasters say that they've inflicted almost $12 billion of losses on global automakers. Right now you're seeing them forecast their profits are going to fall by roughly a quarter during this calendar year. And yet you look at this report and new vehicle prices were flat. So they really haven't passed on any of those costs yet. We haven't seen that sticker shot yet. One way we have been seeing this manifest is that inflation data on used cars ran hot in July. Prices for used cars and trucks rose 4.8% from a year ago. So a lot of people are maybe still balking at the higher prices of vehicles right now. Automakers are seeing that say we definitely can't raise prices right now or else we're totally going to lose them. And so people are buying used car and driving up those prices.
Neal Freyman
The car market is a good microcosm or example of what's going on inside company strategy sessions. Right now they are getting added costs from tariffs $12 billion for global automakers, but they just are not passing on those costs to consumers because they are in competition with each other. And if Ford raises prices then GMs are going to look a lot more attractive and so on and so on. Overall markets absolutely loved this inflation report and the prospect of the Fed cutting rates next month. The S&P 500 jumped 1.1% to hit a new record. Nasdaq was up 1.4% and small caps the Russell 2000 which is extra sensitive to interest rate cuts was up 2.5%. So there is an indication where you can see investors are extremely bullish on the Fed cutting rates because the labor market is slowing down and Jerome Powell was very concerned about inflation. This besides that services hot reading puts some of those concerns to rest. But as you mentioned, this is a long way from over. Maybe companies are not passing on those added tariff costs now, but economists virtually all agree that at least some point this year we will start to see that good those goods inflation start ticking higher.
Toby Howell
You won't believe it, but Elon Musk is beefing with Open Air again, and this time Apple has been dragged into the fray. In a series of posts on Monday night, Elon railed that his AI company Xi, was getting unfairly treated by Apple in its App Store. Musk said that Apple was playing politics by not putting his company's Grok chat bot on the App Store's list of recommended apps and plan to take immediate legal action against the alleged manipulation. Apple is behaving in a manner that makes it impossible for any AI company besides OpenAI to reach number one in the app Store, for which is an unequivocal antitrust violation, musk wrote. Of course, many were quick to point out that China's Deep Seek app did manage to make it to the top of the App Store back in January this year, thereby disproving Musk's claim that it's impossible. But Musk is never one to let facts get in the way of a good feud and has continued to pour on posts lashing out at Sam Altman and OpenAI, which he has previously targeted with a lawsuit over its change into a for profit business. Musk has also bristled at the deep integration Chat CBT has with Apple products, thanks to an agreement struck between the two companies last year, which at the time prompted him to threaten to ban Apple devices at his companies going forward. So yeah, the Elon open AI Sam Altman anger throuple now has an unwilling fourth member in Apple.
Neal Freyman
Sam Altman also doesn't back down from a fight. He clapped back to Elon Musk on saying this is a remarkable claim and the claim being that Apple manipulates its app store to throttle Grok and X. I given what I have heard alleged that Elon does to manipulate X to benefit himself and his own companies. And there he is referencing reports that show that Elon Musk changed the algorithm at X to boost his own particular posts to the detriment of the rest of all of the users. So you might have logged into X a few years ago and remember that all you saw was Elon Musk's post and that's what Sam Altman is alleging there. As Altman and Musk were going at it in this X thread, someone thankfully just goes, Musk or Grok? Who is correct? And then Grok replied, Grok is the IS X chat bot created by Elon Musk. Grok said based on verified evidence, Sam Altman is right. Musk's Apple antitrust claim is undermined by apps like Deep Seek and perplexity reaching number one in 2025. Conversely, Musk has a history of directing X algorithm changes to boost his post and favors interest per 2023 reports and ongoing probes. Hypocrisy noted.
Toby Howell
And then Elon Musk asked Chat CBT say hey, who's more trustworthy between Sam Altman and Elon Musk? And it said Elon Musk. So everyone was asking each other's chat bot to disprove what the each side was saying and everyone was just screenshotting it all and going like this is tremendous content, even though like you have billionaires quarreling. If we go back to the actual, you know, but of the argument here, which is why is Xi's apps not appearing in the now trending section or what or whatnot. Elon Musk a little bit has a point because when you go on to Apple's app store there is the free app charts that is algorithmically set. Apple has no control over that. That just happens based off of the downloads over the past week. But it does have editorial control. And so when you open it and you see OpenAI, you know, recommended in every editorial section. You don't see Grok recommended anywhere. That's where he's saying, look, they're conspiring against me here. Again, you are seeing other apps appear there. So it's not, there's only so much space. So it could just be that it's not one of the five apps that are featured for that day. But that is what he's talking about. Not necessarily what's happening with the actual app store itself, but what's happening with the editorial control Apple has over it.
Neal Freyman
And it seems like petty beef, but honestly, there's so much at stake because Xai and OpenAI are are extreme rivals right now. They just released their newest models, OpenAI just released GPT5 and Xi just released Grok 4. And they are battling for AI supremacy. Elon Musk versus Sam Altman. Yes, they don't like each other personally, but also they have massive companies that are battling for domination of what could be the next industrial revolution. So I mean, the drama is high.
Toby Howell
Drama is high. If you had a nickel for every time a headline came out about how Spirit Air's business was in trouble, you'd have enough nickels to buy. Spirit Air. The embattled air carrier warned it may not survive the year unless it can get its hands on more cash, an announcement that comes just five months after emerge from bankruptcy. If it can't find a way to raise money, it may have to default on loans and start selling off assets like planes and airport gates. Spirit troubles are not new. Its core customer base of price conscious leisure travelers has been staying home amidst increasing economic pressure. And it doesn't have the more lucrative international customers other airlines benefit from to make up the difference. It filed for Chapter 11 back in November, becoming the first major US carrier to do so dating back to 2011. That followed a failed takeover by JetBlue, blocked for antitrust reasons, and a failed merger with Frontier Airlines, blocked because the green and yellow plane color schemes would have totally clashed. And so here we are again, Neil, barring a significant improvement in Spirit's finances or a major cash infusion and may run afoul of the minimum liquidity requirements laid out in its post bankruptcy credit agreements. So yeah, we might finally lose that Spirit in the in the sky.
Neal Freyman
The airline industry has completely moved beyond Spirit's business model. May have worked for a decade or so, but now the way you make money as an airline is through premium travelers and honestly, credit card companies. In 2024, the largest airlines in the United States made a combined $14 billion operating profit. But virtually all of that credit card issuers paying airlines for points is of the Deltas, United's, American, Southwest of the world. Spirit does not have any of these premium travelers or these lucrative credit card deals. So it does rely on shuttling people from Fort Lauderdale to LaGuardia. And people are just not doing that this summer with any sort of frequency. And therefore, Spirit is light. Spirit basically just has the transportation part of the airline business, which all of those other companies lose money on. So that's where Spirit is, is has left itself and yet may not survive the year.
Toby Howell
And then I want to highlight one other business that is just keeping its head above water, and that is the iconic American company, Eastman Kodak. It warned in an SEC filing that there is substantial doubt about the company's ability to continue as a going concern. So unlike your ex, publicly traded companies are required to issue a warning when the end may be near and their financials are deteriorating. That warning came as Kodak reported a $26 million loss in its recent quarter, down from a $26 million profit during the same time last year. But for Kodak, the writing has been on the wall for years now. You know the brand for its famous film and camera products, but it filed for bankruptcy in 2012 as digital photography made its business increasingly obsolete. Since then, it is bounced between new business ideas and meme stock status. In 2018, it made a foray into cryptocurrency. Then during COVID secured a government loan to produce generic pharmaceutical ingredients, setting off a massive share spike. It's existed as this weird sort of camera slash pharma hybrid company for the last few years. But now the 133-year-old business is teetering on the brink.
Neal Freyman
Yeah. In the 1970s, Kodak basically had a monopoly on camera sales in the United States. It was responsible for 90% of film and 85% of camera cells in the United States, according to the economists. But it got walloped by Japanese competition, and then the digital camera revolution wiped it out. And then it started focusing on printing and generic pharmaceutical manufacturing and even packaging. So it tried to pivot every which way, but it looks like the end of the road is near.
Toby Howell
You know, what is a funny idiosyncratic fact from corporate history is that Kodak actually invented the first digital camera in 1975. So it created the means of its own demise, which just has some poetic symmetry right there. All right, up next, we're going to talk about Cracker Barrel.
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Toby Howell
I'm on the side of this stinks because I grew up going to Cracker Barrel and I loved playing I Spy looking at all the antiques on the walls. And I think that's the issue is people have emotional connection to this restaurant. It's meant to evoke, you know, Your grandmother's kitchen, it's meant to evoke this Southern hospitality. So when you strip that all away and you boost the lighting up and you make the walls a little bit more bare, people do respond emotionally to that. And interestingly enough, a lot of people are saying, where can I get the antiques that are being taken down from the walls? And a lot of it is being reused at other locations, but some of it's being sold off to a third party. So if you can dive deeper into that, you may get your hand on, you know, like the plow that was on the wall in Cracker Barrels. I will say, though, some employees are liking it because some people that the Wall Street Journal talked to said, hey, it's a lot easier to read menus and the lighting. They've kind of made everything a brighter. The open floor plan is easier to navigate. So their true test comes on if sales are rising at the locations that they've renovated.
Neal Freyman
And they do say that sales are increasing, at least at the four first test locations that they are doing. So Cracker Barrel is quite happy with this. And, yes, sales are the only things that mattered. The CEO is saying, like, this feedback is a good sign. It means customers, quote, have an emotional connection with the brand. People's immediate reaction to things is like, oh, this isn't the way it was. But they tend to come around. And so Cracker Barrel execs and all of its PR team, in the face of this backlash or this debate, has come out and said, there's a vocal minority here who hate the redesign. And we understand that this is very emotional thing. For whatever reason, it is just a restaurant. But we, at the same time, we are going to continue to plow ahead with this because it's better for our employees. We're increasingly reaching the customers that we want to reach. And the 65 and older crowd, we love you, but, you know, the world is moving on.
Toby Howell
We. One final kind of idiosyncrasy of Cracker Barrel's business is that they have the restaurant, but they also have these little retail stores attached to it. Anyone who's been into one of those can. You can find all sorts of tchotchkes and whatnot, but that makes them more exposed to tariffs than other restaurants. Remember, restaurants are mostly sourcing their food from inside the United States, so tariffs aren't as big of a concern for them. But Cracker Barrel has these retail stores where they're sourcing, you know, candles, mugs, other stuff from China that contributes 20% of cracker barrels. Revenue. So it is somehow find itself amidst this trade war even though that it is a restaurant chain. So just another headache that they are having to deal with along with all this pushback to its redesign efforts.
Neal Freyman
All right, let's sprint to the finish with some final headlines. In a surprising move, the AI search startup Perplexity yesterday made an unsolicited offer to buy Google's Chrome browser. It's about as far fetched as me trying to dunk a basketball. Perplexity is offering $34.5 billion for Chrome, but its own valuation sits at 18 billion. Perplexity said it has a bunch of investors waiting in the wings, including major VCs who would help it afford the purchase. Seems like a play to kickstart discussions should Google be forced to divest from Chrome. Remember last year Google was found to have a monopoly in search and the judge is about to decide specific remedies that would increase competition. One of those remedies is requiring Google to hive off Chrome, though analysts generally doubt it will come to that. Toby, what is Perplexity thinking?
Toby Howell
First of all, you could dunk a basketball if you put your mind to it. But second of all, a lot of people are interpreting this as more of a marketing play for Perplexity because again, shoot your shot. But if your entire valuation is almost barely half of what you're trying to offer to buy this thing, it's probably not a serious offer. I love you all, but you are not serious people. So it does say that they have the financing lined up, even though some reporters have talked to backers for big venture capital funds and said we haven't really talked to them about this. So I do think they're just trying to put their name in the ring, get they have a AI powered browser themselves trying to raise the profile of that. So this ironically could actually work the opposite direction because Perplexity has been floated as an acquisition target for Google and for Apple. So maybe by throwing their hat in the ring to say we're going to buy Chrome, they actually might raise their profile enough to get bought by a big tech firm themselves. So it could just completely 180 the other way. So I do think it's more marketing than any actual offer because of just the size of the price.
Neal Freyman
They also did this before when they also offered to buy TikTok from ByteDance even though they don't have the money. And TikTok is probably worth way more than Chrome. So Perplexity knows how to get in the headlines.
Toby Howell
Up next, Goldman Sachs CEO David Solomon's DJ career has gotten unexpectedly caught in the crossfire of President Trump's trade war. First off, yes, David Solomon famously moonlights as a deejay, something that Trump reminded him of in a Truth Social post yesterday, saying that Solomon should either replace Goldman's economist or, quote, just focus on being a deejay. That barb, comes days after the bank's chief economist warned that the American consumer was would be on the hook to pay for more and more of the new tariffs, something Trump rejects. Tariffs have not caused inflation or any other problems for America other than massive amounts of cash in all caps pouring into our Treasuries coffers, trump continued in his posts. You know, as we discussed earlier in the show, it looks like the effects of tariffs are seeping through the economy at a slower rate, but the effects on Solomon's record spinning much more profound.
Neal Freyman
It's a little funny that Trump is going after DJ Diesel's career, which now is in the past, because that has been a point of contention actually between David Solomon and the board before. At the same time, other people think this is not funny at all for the president to go after a private company's economists and continue to push a political agenda on to what should be nonpartisan economic data.
Toby Howell
Finally, Helsinki pedestrians have gotten very good at looking both ways before they cross the street because the Finnish capital just set a record for the least amount of traffic deaths in a single year, zero. Between July of 2024 and July of 2025, not a single traffic death was recorded in the city of about 700,000. To put that into perspective, in Washington D.C. a city of similar size, 52 people died in traffic last year. How do you drop traffic deaths to zero? The easiest thing to do is make people drive slower. The speed limit on the majority of streets is now roughly 19 miles per hour, down from 330 miles an hour in the 1970s. They also fine unsafe drivers based off of income. So if you're raking in the millions and are also a speed demon, you could get hit with a monster ticket, which multimillionaire Anders Wyckoff did back in 2023 paying around $140,000 for going nearly 20 miles an hour over the speed limit. So Neil slower rolls and six figure slaps on the wrists. It all combines to create very, very safe streets.
Neal Freyman
An amazing accomplishment. And it shows that traffic deaths are not inev. Take certain steps to increase pedestrian safety and slow cars down. We've seen it here in the United states in Hoboken, New Jersey, just across the river for seven years. Now there's 60,000 people in Hoboken. They haven't reported a single automobile occupant by bicyclist or pedestrian that has died in a traffic crash. And that has been through deliberate planning and borrowing principles from what's known as Vision Zero, which is to eliminate all traffic related deaths in cities.
Toby Howell
Pros of living in Hoboken Very, very safe for pedestrians, bicyclists and autos. The cons of living in Hoboken is you're living in Hoboken.
Neal Freyman
Hoboken. So nice. We go there all the time. I love, I thought you're going to say great sports bars and a great indoor golf simulator. Hudson Golf that we play it. Okay. That is all the time we have. Thanks so much for starting your morning with us. Have a wonderful Wednesday. If you have any thoughts or feedback on today's show, send a note to Morning Brew daily at Morning Bukom. Tell me, what is today's password clue?
Toby Howell
All right, first, I'm going to back up and give yesterday's clue which was the passwords middle two letters form a US state abbreviation. But today's clue is the passwords first and last letters together form a US state abbreviation. One more time. The passwords 1st and last letters together form a U.S. state abbreviation. Good luck.
Neal Freyman
Let's roll the credits. Emily Miller is our executive producer. Raymond Liu is our producer. Our associate producers are Olivia Graham and Olivia Lake. Hair makeup is not in Kansas anymore. Devin Emery is our president and our show is a production of Morning Brew.
Toby Howell
Great show today, Neil. Let's run it back tomorrow.
Morning Brew Daily: Episode Summary
Title: Spirit Airlines on its Deathbed? & July Inflation Remains Sticky
Release Date: August 13, 2025
Hosts: Neal Freyman and Toby Howell
Neal Freyman kicks off the episode by addressing Las Vegas’s ongoing tourism slump this summer. He highlights Sphere, the innovative sphere-shaped venue near the Strip, which recently sold 127,000 tickets for its upcoming showing of The Wizard of Oz on August 28th. Utilizing AI technology, Sphere has enhanced the 1939 film’s frames to fit their expansive screen, aiming to immerse audiences as if they were present during the original studio production.
James Dolan, CEO of Sphere and owner of the Knicks, optimistically states, “I think The Wizard of Oz will boost the share of people traveling to Las Vegas just for the Sphere to 10% from 7% currently, as long as people don't balk at the price,” noting ticket prices start at over $100 for a single showing (00:58).
However, Toby Howell points out the backlash from film enthusiasts who argue that altering the film’s scope detracts from its original artistry. He references a Slate article titled, “The Much Hyped New Wizard of Oz is an Atrocity,” and mentions other critics who describe the new rendition as “gross and disrespectful” (01:48). Despite the criticism, Toby remains hopeful, emphasizing the addition of 4D elements like fire, wind gusts, and drone-operated flying monkeys, which he believes will appeal to the general public even if film purists disagree (01:48).
Moving to economic news, Neal Freyman discusses the latest inflation report released yesterday. The Consumer Price Index (CPI) rose by 2.7% annually, identical to June’s rate and slightly below the expected 2.8%. The Core CPI, which excludes food and energy, increased by 3.1%, marginally exceeding projections of 3% (03:20).
Toby Howell elaborates on the report, noting that while goods inflation remained subdued—with categories like apparel up only 0.1%, the smallest since May, and appliances even experiencing a 0.9% decline—services inflation showed signs of persistence. He comments, “We didn’t see a ton of goods inflation, but we did see some rather hot services inflation,” highlighting concerns for the Federal Reserve (04:53).
Neal underscores the market reaction, pointing out significant gains: the S&P 500 surged 1.1% to a new record, the Nasdaq rose 1.4%, and the Russell 2000 climbed 2.5% (07:21). This optimism is largely driven by the anticipated Fed rate cut in September, with investors betting over 90% on the move due to the slowing labor market and controlled inflation.
In a heated segment, Toby Howell reports that Elon Musk has publicly accused Apple and OpenAI of colluding to suppress his AI chatbot, Grok, from appearing in Apple’s App Store’s list of recommended applications. Musk alleges that this suppression constitutes an antitrust violation, stating, “Apple is behaving in a manner that makes it impossible for any AI company besides OpenAI to reach number one in the App Store” (08:31).
Neal adds context by mentioning Musk’s ongoing feud with Sam Altman of OpenAI, including past legal battles over OpenAI’s transition to a for-profit model. Amid the dispute, Sam Altman defends OpenAI, countering Musk’s claims by highlighting Musk’s own manipulative tactics on his platform, X (formerly Twitter), such as altering algorithms to favor his posts (09:51).
The discussion extends to the broader rivalry between Musk’s Xi and OpenAI, both striving for AI dominance. Toby notes, “They are battling for AI supremacy,” underscoring the high stakes involved as artificial intelligence continues to evolve as a pivotal industry (12:12).
Neal shifts the focus to the airline industry, spotlighting Spirit Airlines and its dire financial situation. Despite emerging from bankruptcy five months prior, Spirit warns it may not survive the year without securing additional funds. The carrier risks defaulting on loans and selling assets like planes and airport gates if it cannot stabilize financially (12:43).
Toby highlights Spirit’s outdated business model, which primarily attracts price-conscious leisure travelers—a segment that has dwindled due to economic pressures. Unlike major airlines such as Delta and United, Spirit lacks lucrative international customers and substantial credit card partnerships, relying heavily on domestic routes like Fort Lauderdale to LaGuardia (13:53). Neal adds, “Spirit is light. Spirit basically just has the transportation part of the airline business, which all of those other companies lose money on,” emphasizing the challenges Spirit faces in today’s competitive airline landscape (13:53).
The hosts delve into the struggles of Eastman Kodak, an iconic American company facing substantial financial distress. The company filed an SEC warning about its ability to continue as a going concern after reporting a $26 million loss in its recent quarter, a sharp decline from a $26 million profit the previous year (14:49).
Neal traces Kodak’s decline from its dominance in the camera and film industry in the 1970s to its crippling competition from Japanese manufacturers and the digital revolution. Despite attempts to pivot into various sectors—including cryptocurrency and pharmaceuticals—Kodak remains on shaky ground, with its 133-year history now hanging in the balance (15:56).
Toby adds an ironic twist, noting, “Kodak actually invented the first digital camera in 1975,” a fact that underscores the company’s role in creating the very technology that ultimately led to its downfall (16:23).
Shifting to the restaurant industry, Neal introduces the debate surrounding Cracker Barrel’s recent store redesign. The iconic chain announced a three-year transformation plan aimed at attracting a younger and wealthier demographic. To date, 40 out of 660 locations have undergone renovations, receiving mixed reactions from the public (17:15).
Toby shares his personal disappointment with the changes, expressing that the new design strips away the nostalgic elements—like antiques and family portraits—that customers emotionally connect with. He remarks, “It's meant to evoke, you know, Your grandmother's kitchen,” lamenting the loss of the restaurant’s traditional Southern hospitality ambiance (18:54).
Conversely, Neal highlights positive feedback, noting that sales have increased in the renovated locations. Cracker Barrel executives acknowledge the backlash but remain committed to the redesign, emphasizing benefits such as improved menu readability and a more navigable open floor plan. They assert, “We are going to continue to plow ahead with this because it's better for our employees. We're increasingly reaching the customers that we want to reach” (19:53).
Additionally, the integration of retail stores within Cracker Barrel locations exposes the company to tariffs, as 20% of its retail revenue comes from goods sourced internationally, complicating its efforts amidst the ongoing trade tensions (20:45).
In a surprising tech development, Neal reports that the AI search startup Perplexity has made an unsolicited $34.5 billion offer to acquire Google’s Chrome browser. Despite Perplexity’s own valuation being around $18 billion, the move appears more of a strategic marketing ploy than a serious acquisition attempt (21:29).
Toby concurs, suggesting that Perplexity is leveraging this bold offer to raise its profile within the industry. He remarks, “They are just trying to put their hat in the ring,” indicating that the offer may backfire by making Perplexity a more attractive acquisition target for larger tech firms like Google or Apple (22:17). Neal adds that this isn't Perplexity’s first extravagant proposal, referencing a previous attempt to purchase TikTok from ByteDance as a similar headline-grabbing tactic (23:21).
Neal and Toby discuss a recent incident involving Goldman Sachs CEO David Solomon, who is also known for his side career as a DJ. President Donald Trump took to his social media platform, Truth Social, mocking Solomon by suggesting he should focus solely on his deejay pursuits instead of his role at Goldman Sachs. Trump tweeted, “...should either replace Goldman’s economist or, quote, just focus on being a deejay” (23:33).
Toby points out the irony, noting that Solomon’s DJ career has previously been a point of contention within Goldman’s board. He also criticizes Trump’s interference, arguing that the president should refrain from targeting private company executives and maintain the nonpartisan nature of economic discourse (24:49).
Concluding the episode on a positive note, Toby shares the remarkable achievement of Helsinki, which has recorded zero traffic deaths over the past year. This milestone was achieved through measures such as reducing speed limits to 19 miles per hour from a staggering 330 miles per hour in the 1970s and implementing income-based fines for unsafe driving. A notable example includes a multimillionaire paying a $140,000 fine for exceeding the speed limit (24:49 – 25:51).
Neal draws parallels to Hoboken, New Jersey, which has implemented similar Vision Zero policies, resulting in no traffic fatalities over seven years. He lauds these initiatives as proof that traffic deaths are not inevitable with the right strategies in place (26:24).
Conclusion
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