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Throwback Ads Dominate the Super Bowl & Dow hits 50,000
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A hit of nostalgia for the big game & the Dow booms
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Oh, could this vintage store be any cuter?
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Right.
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And the best part, they accept Discover. Except Discover in a little place like this? I don't think so, Jennifer.
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Oh, yeah, huh?
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Discover's accepted where I like to shop. Come on, baby, get with the times. Right. So we shouldn't get the parachute pants. These are making a comeback, I think. Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide.
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Based on the February 2025 Nielsen report.
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Good morning, Brew Daily Show. I'm Neal Freyman.
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And I'm Toby Howell.
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Today, the highlights and the lowlights of the Super Bowl.
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Ben, if you're not fiber maxing, what the heck you doing? It's Monday, February 9th. Let's ride.
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Good morning and welcome back to the week. If your office is looking a little empty today, it might be because some of your co workers have come down with the old super bowl flight loo. Even before last night's game, about 1 in 100 workers scheduled PTO according to HR platform Bamboo. And ultimately over 26 million may miss work today. A separate survey by workday as people taking off their primary reasons for doing so. 45% said they needed to catch up on sleep, 34% said they were feeling unmotivated, and 27% acknowledged they'll be too hungover.
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You know it's going to be even worse next year, though. The super bowl lands on February 14th. You know what day that is, Neil?
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I think I have an idea.
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It marks 10 days until my birthday. And it's also Valentine's Day. It is no holiday sacred anymore. The NFL has come for Thanksgiving. The NFL has come for Christmas Day. Now they have overtaken Valentine's Day, just as Monday brings a surge of the super bowl flu. I'm predicting next year will bring a surge of brunch reservations rather than dinner reservations. But the relationship strife will hopefully be worth it because the day after the super bowl is President's Day, which is a national holiday. So hopefully that will smooth things over and give you plenty of time to do the dishes left over from the super bowl party. And now an ad from our new sponsor, Flav City. I Top of the morning to you, Neil.
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Toby, it is way too early for this.
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Game was yesterday, and for a while there it looked like Neil and I were going to score as many points as the entire Patriots offense. Eventually, the Seahawks prevailed, making Sam Darnold the first ginger quarterback to win a Super bowl in league history. I made that stat up, but it feels right. As for the rest of the spectacle, Bad Bunny did his thing during halftime, bringing out Lady Gaga for a surprise appearance. And in addition to some cameos from Alex Earl, Jessica Alba, Carol G and Ricky Martin and a really cool set design, I hummed along and yes, my hips were moving. The ads, which cost as much as $10 million for 30 seconds, were dominated by AI and Mr. Rogers. Anthropic's ad making fun of OpenAI's incorporation of ads seem to have fallen flat to a Wider audience, but Mr. Rogers and his unique brand of neighborliness was were invoked in both an NFL and a Rocket Mortgage commercial. Seemed like kindness was a theme. Other standouts were a really freaky Dunkin Donuts spot with D stars from Goodwill hunting Friends and Cheers Post Malone fell down a hill for Bud Light and Coinbase literally played the karaoke lyrics to everybody by the Backstreet Boys for their entire ad. Neal Seattle won the game, but I'd argue the biggest winner yesterday was the broadcaster NBC, as NBC is airing the Olympics alongside the super bowl, meaning a lot of eyeballs and a lot of money are coming their way right now. But first things first. How did your nine layer dip go over?
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Well, it was certainly more satisfying than the game that was played on the field, I'll tell you that. Let's talk about this Coinbase ad because this was my experience and I want I wonder if this also happened to everybody at our party. Everyone started singing along once they realized this was karaoke and it was very cool. The vibes were very high and then at the end the Coinbase logo comes on and then there is just very loud booing and jeering. We all know bitcoin and crypto is absolutely in the dumps right now, and I don't think anything better encapsulates the mood around the crypto market or these these particular platforms than what happened there.
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I think that experience was shared across many households. But it's smart because Coinbase are like, most people are watching their phones. It's kind of like how Netflix shows are being watched right now as a second screen. So they're like, let's break the sensory moment here. It's, do they do this big karaoke spot? Another ad that stood out to me was Salesforce's ad with Mr. Beast. This was very polarizing because a lot of people said it wasn't pulled off well. But essentially, Mr. Beast came on screen. It's like, hey, I have $1 million waiting for someone who slacks me the correct answer to this riddle I'm about to lay out for you all. Look for little Easter eggs in this ad. Look for Easter eggs and other videos I have put out. And whoever solves this problem first gets the million dollars. But they only flash the QR code on the screen for, like, the last point, two seconds. So everyone said the execution wasn't there, even though the idea is pretty fresh.
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And unique and you can't resist online.
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Someone help me. If anyone has any leads, please, please send them our way.
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And then one of the biggest clashes that played out over the airwaves was AI wars. There was a Gemini ad, there was an Amazon Alexa plus ad. And then, of course, there was an open air and a Claude anthropic ad. And you said that the anthropic ad, which was much discussed earlier in the week before the super bowl, kind of fell flat. You want to elaborate?
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Yeah, because a lot of people said that watching with my normie friends. They did not know that that was supposed to be how chatbot talks. They did not pick up on the AI voice that, you know, the guy was supposed to be conveying there. And they're just like, why is he talking weird? So they didn't get, you know, the entire concept of it. They also tweaked the slogan at the end right before they aired. So I think there is some back and forth about what they really wanted to convey there. So even though amongst, you know, the online community, the AI Fluent community, they were saying that this is a massive win for Anthropic. I don't know if it's translated to the broader audience.
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And one industry that's basically evaporated from super bowl commercials is automakers. In 2012, automakers accounted for 40% of Super bowl and ad minutes. So if you're watching the super bowl back then, you were blasted with car ads. Last year, it dropped all the way to 7%. And then this year only three automakers aired ads for just two minutes. So that industry is going through a whole lot of trouble right now. And I think that is reflected in the lack of super bowl commercials that they bought.
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I also want to talk about just some funny stats that I have for you all. So Bad Bunny had a pretty well received halftime show. But but he also was carrying a football throughout that halftime show and Next Gen Stats, which provides stats to the NFL, said that he actually traveled 124.4 yards with the football during his halftime show. The Patriots rush for 70 yards total in the entire game. So Bad Bunny outgained the Patriots by a pretty hefty margin.
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And this halftime show, I mean it was visually stunning. I think a lot of people had a very similar experience where I was like this is incredible to look at and the music's good. Do I know? Do I understand anything? No, because it was all in Spanish. And Bad Bunny actually back in October he said that English speakers had four months to learn Spanish. You can to understand what he was saying. You can understand why this the NFL picked Bad Bunny. He was the number one streamed artist globally last year on Spotify and he has been for four out of the last five years. NFL is making a huge push internationally. They held seven international games in the past year and they're doing the same in the Upcomin. Babel said. It's a language teaching app. Said that the share of American users studying Spanish shot up from 26% in 2012 to 60% in 2025. So Bad Bunny just sort of celebrating Latino heritage in the United States certainly tapped into that. We have to mention there was also an alternate broadcast of a halftime show because a lot of conservatives push back against Bad Bunny. We found out that that halftime show had about 5 million watchers viewers on YouTube, which is not a not an insignificant number that was headlined by Kid Rock. Moving on among the industries battling out on the airwaves last night were the makers of GLP1 blockbuster treatments that can induce significant weight loss. Novo Nordisk and Eli Lilly both ran ads touting their weight loss drugs, as did telehealth startups Row and Hims and Hers. The adwords come at a particularly dramatic time for GLP1s, where prices are plummeting and the battle for market share is cutthroat. Much of the recent drama started last Thursday when Hims and hers released a knockoff of Novo Nordisk govi pill at a shocking price point. $49 for the first month undercutting Novo's offering by 100 bucks. Hims and hers has become one of the top selling brands for what are known as compounded weight loss drugs, which don't go through a clinical trial process and don't require FDA approval. The release was almost immediately met by criticism and the threat of legal action by the Trump administration's health department. FDA Commissioner Marty McCary said that his agency would, quote, take swift action against companies mass marketing illegal copycat drugs claiming they are similar to FDA approved products. Rather than lawyer up, Hims and Hers wave the white flag. On Saturday, the company said it would stop selling its knockoff with Govey pill after, quote, constructive conversations with stakeholders across the industry. But this is not the last role here of this controversy.
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Yeah, I want to dive into what compounding drugs are and why they are sort of a loophole for these pharmacies. So compounding allows you to do two things. One, you can say that you're customizing formulas for patients so you can add a little, you know, vitamin or like a B12 into a semaglutide and say, this is a new product that I can sell to consumers. But also the real Trojan horse that allowed these to enter the market is short. It is, remember, if you go back to 2024, GLP1 drugs became all the rage and all the ingredients that went into making Ozempic, Wegovy, Manjaro, Zepbound and entered shortages. And they are that the FDA actually steps in and says, hey compounders, we need you right now. We are opening the floodgates for you to provide these medications to people. And that just absolutely rose their star. It just made them a lot more popular. Those shortages ended in late 2024 and early 2025. And the FDA has tried to step in and say, hey, stop making these copycats. But again, the floodgates were open. It's very hard to. Once the moneymaker has been, once the golden goose has been established, you can't say to Hims and hers, I want to take that away. They're going to fight tooth and nail for it.
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And the entrance of these telehealth startups like Ro, which had a commercial last night that starred Serena Williams and Hims and hers, has led to a very bizarre price war in the GLP1 space. And pharmaceutical industry experts are saying, we have never seen anything like this. Usually when a pharmaceutical product comes out, it is patented by a company and the price rises over time. But here we're seeing a dramatic fall in prices just two years ago, a GLP1 prescription basically cost an uninsured patient patient more than $1,000 a month. Remember Bernie Sanders? Others were very outraged about this, how much it would cost. But today Novo Nordisk released a wegovy pill that starts at just $149 through a cash pay program. And that cash pay is the key piece here. Insurers were very slow to get hip to the GLP1 trend. They weren't offering it. So people just said, I, I want to do this, I'm going to pay cash. And that led to this, this price war that resembles a more of a high growth consumer product rather than a pharmaceutical treatment.
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And it has exacerbated the gap between Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk. Even even though Novo Nordisk was the original one to the space with Ozempic, they were the ones who popularized the entire category. They have been left behind by Eli Lilly. Eli Lilly now claims a 60% share of the US GLP1 market, which is they were not ahead to start, but they have made up ground in the process because they've been able to meet these people where they're at in terms of price. Novo Nordisk has started cutting prices aggressively to try to catch up, but they're expecting 2026 sales to fall 5% to 13%. They were a little late to the boat when it comes to this price.
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And there's and their stock is just absolutely in the dumps, which is crazy. Their stock price is now lower than it was before. This whole Craze started in 2022.
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Moving on. Welcome to winners of the weekend. The segment where Neil and I picked two stories that had a better weekend than the Patriots left tackle. I won the pre show game of bench pressing. Neal has we arms. So I'm up first. And my winner of the weekend is old fashioned fiber. Because suddenly it's the dietary trend of the moment. For a long time, fiber was for old people regulated to bland cereals that your grandparents ate. The prevailing thought was it's tough to market something that in essence makes you poop. But now brands are leaning into fiber's main value prop and doing it using the language all demographics respond to potty humor. During the super bowl, you may have caught a raisin brand ad starring William Shatner, AKA Will Shat, embracing this cereal at its bowel moving best. In years past, maybe the sweetness of the raisins would have been highlighted. But now fiber is the star of the show because of changing nutrition trends. Protein has been the macro of the moment, but now fiber maxing is where it's at. PepsiCo CEO said on an earnings call that fiber will be the next protein and announced plans to roll out more fiber enhanced drinks and snacks. Coca Cola is also exploring fiber, added sodas and already released Diet Coke with fiber in Japan seems like the right directional bet to make, especially as colon cancer rates are on the rise amongst young people and too much protein without fiber leads to unhappy stomachs. So the pendulum might be swinging back into balance. Neal, if someone passes gas in front of you, maybe even your co host, rather than being grossed out, compliment them for their high fiber diet.
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You're a cereal crop duster and a bunch of us have been talking about it. So I'm glad I can actually say it to your face now. What's interesting between the protein and fiber comparison is that there's been this huge push into protein. But experts generally say that we get enough protein. We in fact, we're probably eating too much protein at this point. But when it comes to fiber, we're certainly not getting enough fib. So health experts are like, well, I'm glad will Shatton. These other companies are actually pointing out that we should be eating more fiber. The recommended allotment of fiber is 25 grams for women and 38 grams for men a day. A study said that 95% of Americans aren't hitting that. So it seems like in terms of where there's an actually, where there's actually a gap, it's not necessarily protein, it is fiber.
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Yeah. And most Americans get their fiber currently from bread or pasta, you know, grain forward ingredients. But those have kind of been vilified by the protein movement. A lot of people are saying, you know, eat less of these carbs, eat more of protein. So it's made the problem even worse. It's also become a big social media trend. I don't know if you've seen this guy. He kind of goes by the moniker online of Fiber Daddy. His real name is Alan Lynn, where he eats the most fibrous meals you've ever seen. Disgusting. Like I have to put it out there. His goal, he calls it fart maxing, actually is to create so much gastrointestinal action in there that it's going to come out the other end. He's got 100,000 TikTok followers. He also has a brand of liquid salad which is kind of like those packets, those squeeze packets that usually have fruit in it, it's got vegetables in it and it's supposed to aid with digestion. So this is a niche subculture but one that I've unfortunately stumbled upon.
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I have not. I have not stumbled upon. I think I would remember if I came this guy. You also mentioned colon cancer. Well, there is. Scientists are investigating whether low fiber diets are among the factors that are causing this rise in colon cancer among young people. But it is alarming health experts. There is this 2024 report from the American Cancer Society that showed that the disease colon cancer moved from being the fourth leading cause of cancer death in young adults to the first among men under 50 and second among women. And so I think there's just going to be a whole reawakening. And fiber was big in the 70s and 80s. You said it's associated with, with the boomers and grandparents. But I think it's certainly having a second win now.
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Lot of grandparent content this morning. Fibers back. The Dow is back right now. But yeah, the Dow kind of gets made fun of a lot because it's looked at stodgy. It's, you know, price weighted, not market cap rated. It's 30 of the largest blue chip companies in the US but oftentimes people say that it's missing the moment. It doesn't feel modern anymore because it just doesn't appeal to younger investors with the techie names that they like to invest in. But the fact that we have seen the Dow do so well of late shows that maybe we're seeing a broadening of the stock market rally. So much of the gains over the past couple of years have been driven by a handful of mega cap stocks, the Big tech, the Magnificent Seven, whatever you want to call it. But now people are rotating a little bit more into materials sector, into consumer staples, into industrials. And the Dow usually does well when that rotation starts to occur.
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Yeah, let's talk about some of the names in the Dow. I mean, the number one weighted stock in the Dow that's really propelled it recently is Goldman Sachs. And then the second one is Caterpillar, which was our stock of the week on Friday. That just hit a record high. And what's the sixth most influential stock in the Dow, which is Sherwin Williams, the paint company, a $90 billion company. We're talking about real world companies then. You know, I think Sherwin Williams is certainly one of the ones you have to point to. You mentioned some of the criticism of the Dow, which is that it is weighted by share price and not by market cap. And that is certainly true. That's been one of the huge pushbacks against the Dow. And that leads to very weird situations where Sherwin Williams is the sixth most influential stock in the Dow. And in video, which is the largest company, largest publicly traded company in the world is ranked 20th. And we should add that Nvidia and Microsoft didn't even get added to the Dow until 2024. So those are some of the reasons that, you know, if you talk to a stock professional, they're going to say don't look at the Dow, look at the S&P 500 and also maybe look at the Nasdaq because that's a better indication of what's going on in the economy. And yet The Dow hit 50,000. It's worth celebrating.
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It does well though when you look in terms of historical continuity because it's always been valued this way. It's so there's apples to apples comparison that goes all the way back to 1928 when expanded to 30 companies. So the fact that it's just so old gives you some measure of usefulness, even though right now it probably doesn't reflect the market writ large.
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Isn't that wild though? Is 6,600 points during the 2009 recession and now it's at 50. I mean it's doubled since the pandemic.
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I remember a Dow 10,000 hats were like going to be made. Dow 20,000 hats now Dow 50,000.
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We're going to now Dow 100,000 is coming up.
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That's maybe knock on wood. Geez Louise.
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Okay, it's Monday again, so here's what you need to know to stay ahead in the week ahead. Wall street will hope to find solid ground after a nauseating start to the year, though that is unlikely with a huge week on tap. We've got earnings coming from big names like McDonald's, Robinhood, Spotify and Coca Cola, as well as two crucial data releases, the delayed jobs report for January on Wednesday and the monthly inflation report on Friday.
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I think McDonald's and Coke earnings sort of qualify as crucial data releases too because they tell us who is buying what. I'm looking at McDonald's traffic, particularly from a lower income consumers because if we flashback to its its previous quarter's results, they cited a double digit percentage drop in traffic from that demographic. And if we want to talk about a defensive stock, McDonald's is it basically what we were just talking about in the Dow segment. It also fun fact about McDonald's earnings. I'm getting ahead of my skis here because we might talk about this later in the week. If it raises the dividend and pays out to investors later this year, which looks like it will, they will have increased their dividend for 50 consecutive years. That is reliable right there.
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The Winter Olympics enter their first full week in Northern Italy and if this weekend was any indication, you're going to want to have it up on your second monitor at work. Breezy Johnson won USA's first gold medal of the games in the women's downhill while fellow American Lindsey Vonn crashed hard in a valiant if perhaps ill advised attempt to race on a torn acl. Plus the quad. God, Ilya Malin did a backflip as the US Claimed gold in the team figure skating competition. Meanwhile, I am all in on the American mixed doubles curling team of Corey TC And Corey Dropkin, who booked their spot in the upcoming medal round.
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Breezy Johnson, best name in sports, Best name in the Olympics. And also we are fully addicted to curling. Corey Dropkin sweeps harder than any person I've ever seen in all my years watching curling. Haven't watched that many years. But I also do want to shout out the Swiss women's hockey team, specifically their goaltender. They lost four nothing to Canada in their second game for nothing. Seems like a bad game for the goaltender until you see that she faced 55 shots and she stopped 51 of them. That is an MVP performance in my book.
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On Friday, possibly the most controversial movie of the year hits theaters. Wuthering Heights, starring Margot Robbie and Jacob Elordi. The adaptation of Emily Bronte's 19th century novel has been the talk of Tinseltown for its amped up sexuality and anachronisms like Charlie XCX on the trailer soundtrack. But shock and awe is to be expected from director Emerald Fennell, who was also behind a promising young woman and Saltburn. I am obviously seeing this.
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I am also all in on Emeril Fennell. Loved Saltburn. I do have a confession, though. I know nothing about Wuthering Heights. I couldn't tell you the plot other than it's a story for Yearner. So I need to educate myself or should I go and just.
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No, no, I'll give you the book. I read it last year. I thought it was this classic Victorian love story, but it is cursed. There's ghosts, it's haunted. It's very gothic, like, we'll keep you up at night. Everyone is extremely mean to each other. I was very much shocked when I read this book. I thought it was going to be, you know, and here we are courting each other in the, you know, on the estate. And it was absolutely not like it was cursed at many points. So I will give it to you and I want to know what you think.
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That was a very good book review and it did make me want to read the book.
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So well done and hopefully see the movie. If Wuthering Heights doesn't quench your thirst for romance or lust, Saturday is Valentine's Day, preceded by Galentine's Day on Friday. A Leslie Knope original where ladies celebrate ladies.
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What's the guy's version of Galentine's Day? Is that just the Super Bowl?
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That's maybe. I was thinking it's maybe that, but that's not men celebrating men. That's everyone together.
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Think about it a little bit.
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I mean, maybe it's. Maybe it's the men's March Madness tournament on Thursday. Yeah. Okay. That is all the time we have. Thanks so much for starting your morning with us and have a wonderful start to the weekend week. If you want to get in touch, send an email to Morning Brew Daily at Morning Broadcom or DM us on Instagram at me. Daily Show. Let's roll the credits. Emily Milian is our executive producer. Raymond Lu is our producer. Our associate producers are Olivia Graham and Olivia Lake. Hair, makeup. Hope you feel better. That super bowl flu is nasty. Devin Emery is our president, and our show is a production of Morning Brew.
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Great show today. Now let's run it back tomorrow.