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Eugene Daniels
So yes, tomorrow, August 1st, the reciprocal rates will be going into effect. If more deals are cut between now and midnight, I will never count out the president. You've seen him do it before. He cut three deals in one day very recently.
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Jonathan Lemire
So we'll see what happen.
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Eugene Daniels
I do know foreign leaders are ringing.
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Jonathan Lemire
His phone, realizing this deadline is a.
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Eugene Daniels
Real thing for them tomorrow, and they're bringing offers to the table.
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Caroline Levitt
That's White House press Secretary Caroline Levitt. Perhaps overselling yesterday's trade negotiations, the Trump administration did not announce any new deals ahead of today's deadline. Instead, the president formalized several of the high tariff levels and trade agreements that he'd already announced in recent weeks. We will go through all of that. Plus the family of Virginia Giuffre, who survived years of Jeffrey Epstein's abuse, is criticizing President Trump's recent comments about her, what that family had to say. Also ahead this story. The Smithsonian has removed Donald Trump's impeachment from an exhibit. We'll have the museum's explanation for what happened. A rewriting of history. There's another interesting headline out of the White House. President Trump is bringing back the presidential physical fitness test. We'll have more about that. And we'll break down the big moves from a wild trade deadline day in Major League Baseball. Good morning and welcome to Morning Joe. It is Friday, August 1st. It is August, folks. I'm Jonathan Lemire in for Joe, Mika and Willie. The gang will be back on Monday, but we are joined by a great group. We have managing editor at the Bulwark, Sam Stein, MSNBC senior Washington correspondent and co host of the weekend, Eugene Daniels. You just saw him ably fill in on way too early. And former White House director of communications to President Obama. Jen Palmeri, thank you all for being here. Sam, I know you could not pass the presidential physical fitness test, but I'm still going to go to you for a little baseball analysis here. A lot of teams yesterday in the hunt in the American League east across the American League wildcard landscape made a series of moves to get better. I can't say our Boston Red Sox were among them.
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Sam Stein
Well, it's great to hear from you, Jonathan. And so I'm so happy to be here. Let me just start with that. Yeah, it was very deflating deadline again. Look, I don't want to be too grumpy about it because you and I obviously felt very opinionated about the Rafi Devers trade and since then they have played better. So perhaps the management knows what it's doing. But we needed some help and we got two rental relief pitchers and we gave up one of those Devers prospects for them. So you come away and you say this ownership, this management doesn't want to pull the trigger on big acquisitions every single time. This is the takeaway you get from.
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Caroline Levitt
One of these moments that has been the pattern the last few years. Red Sox go into the deadline like they are now in the playoff mix, could use reinforcements. But when management doesn't do much, it feels like the locker room takes that as a vote of no confidence. Usually an August swoon follows. Let's hope that's not the case this time around. They have been playing well. It's a young, exciting team. We'll have more on this a little later in the show, but now from the MLB trade deadline to, well, the global trade deadline. Just hours before President Trump's trade deadline was set to take effect today, he signed an executive order announcing sweeping new tariffs for dozens of countries, as well as formalizing the trade deal frameworks that his administration had already negotiated with a handful of nations. These new rates range from 10% to as high as 41% and they're scheduled to take effect on August 7th. Next week, in an exclusive phone interview with NBC News, Trump said that it was too late for other countries to avoid the higher tariffs, but then added the door will always be open to compelling offers, saying, quote, it doesn't mean that somebody doesn't come along in four weeks and say we can make some kind of deal when it comes to America's three largest trading partners. Talks with China do continue with an August 12 deadline approaching and Trump announced yesterday a 90 day extension for Mexico. However, Canada was hit with a 35% tariff on imports that goes into effect today. The president addressed the higher rate just hours before he signed the order.
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Jared Bernstein
They have to pay a fair rate. It's all, it's very simple. They've been treating our country very badly for years. And look, we like Canada. I love Canada. I have so many friends in Canada. But they've been very poorly led. They've been very, very poorly led. And all we want is fairness for our country.
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Caroline Levitt
Jen Palmieri, we have said a lot. There isn't much that's ideologically consistent from President Trump, but his beliefs in tariffs is an exception. He certainly does and has for decades. There's been just so much sort of chaos, unpredictability into how these tariffs have been rolled out. I think that's sort of the point. In some ways he's been trying to get these deals done. Give us your though as some of yet raise the deadline as some of these tariffs go into effect. You know, at some point American consumers are going to start to feel them.
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Eugene Daniels
Yeah, I first, I want to laud your, your segue from the baseball trade deadline to the global.
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Caroline Levitt
Alex Corson deserves credit for that. The indefatigable executive producer here. That's Alex.
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Eugene Daniels
Good morning, Joe. So, you know, when I look at, when you look at the right at some point, I mean the, the, the economy, you know, I was just listening to CNBC on my way in here and you know, talking about signs, you know, concerns about signs of the economy weakening and that the tariffs starting to take, take hold. If we look at it, though, from a political lens, there is, you see polling that shows people think that the economy is doing well. And I've seen enough focus group data to know that part of the reason why people think that is because in January and February, everyone heard that the economy was going to collapse because of tariffs and it didn't happen. Right. So I think that in terms of how Democrats should, should talk about this, it is in the context of this is more, you know, he said he was going to get elected to lower costs. And what we're concerned about is we're, what we're seeing instead is a lot of chaos, not any move to actually lower costs and these tariffs could have that kind of impact. But bring it back to what he said he was going to do and how it is not that has not happened. Right. Grocery prices haven't really go gone down. That hasn't happened. People are concerned about housing in particular and how affordable that is and, and bring it back to that. As opposed to what, what this as opposed to Predicting, you know, first of all, you don't want it. You don't want to predict some kind of economic impact collapse from the tariffs.
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Caroline Levitt
All right, we're bringing into the conversation now former chair of the Council of Economic Advisers under President Biden, Jared Bernstein. Jared, good to see you this morning. Let's start, if you will, by taking a step back. There's been a lot of sort of conflicting numbers, data that's come in in the last couple weeks, just about the state of the economy, whether how healthy it is or not. Let's start there. Give us your assessment. Just as August 1st arrive, these deadlines arrive, how is the American economy doing right now?
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Jen Palmieri
It's not doing as well as it was before Trump took office and certainly before the trade war. Probably the best overall measure of how the economy is doing is GDP growth. And that was trending north of 2%. Now it's around 1% for the first half of the year. The job market is still in pretty good shape. We heard that from Chair Powell this week. But at the same time, we're seeing some cracks. Employers have really slowed the rate of hiring. They haven't engaged in layoffs yet. You can't have a recession without layoffs. And in fact, I don't see a recession coming at least in the next six to 12 months. What I do see is slower growth and higher prices, AKA stagflation. That's tough for American consumers. It's tough for the Federal Reserve because those forces go in opposite directions for them. And I think it's largely a symptom of this really foundationally misguided trade war.
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Caroline Levitt
So Jared, let's talk now about this trade war and these tariffs about to take effect. What sort of impact are they going to have on the American consumer? Yes, but also some of the core businesses as they try to factor this in into what they're doing.
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Jen Palmieri
When goods arrive in this country, imported goods arrive in this country, the tax or the tariff on those goods is paid by the importer, by the American company that imports those goods. That's the first so called incidents of the tariff. Then you go down the chain. So it's importers, wholesalers, retailers. And standing at the end of that line is the American consumer. And just as we just heard from Jen, a lot of those people who voted for Trump did so because they believed he was going to lower prices. It's not a matter of when the this consumer pass through will occur. We are now seeing it. We're seeing it at the company level through lower profits and that's corporations eating some of the tariffs. But that, that can only go on for so long. They can only let their profit margins get squeezed for so long. They're already working through their buffers on their inventories where they front loaded to try to avoid the tariffs. We are now unequivocally seeing tariffs pass through to consum prices. We're seeing it in furniture, toys, we're seeing it in apparel, we're seeing it in electronics. And we're just going to see more of that as time goes forward.
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Sam Stein
Hey, Jared, it's Sam Stein here. That map made me anxious. There's so many different numbers for so many different countries. I want to talk about the process here and how we got to those numbers. First of all, it's unclear to me where Trump derives all this authority to set these numbers. For instance, if you look at South Korea, we had a congressionally ratified trade deal with South Korea. Suddenly that's whisked away by Trump and different numbers put in the country. But secondly, one of the things that we've noticed in the past six months is that if the markets react negatively to any of this economic news, Trump just goes with a different number or delays the negotiations. That to a degree has prevented some of the worst outcomes, I would argue. But surely there is some side effect to having this back and forth or uncertainty, I should say, around the tariff rates. And I'm kind of curious if you can illuminate what that side effect effect is.
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Jen Palmieri
Well, there's a lot to unpack there. By the way, this morning the markets are poised for a pretty big sell off in the equity markets and we're already seeing that across Europe and Asia as well. In terms of the process, you know, you mentioned the South Korea trade deal. We had a trade deal with Mexico and Canada. It's one that was originated and signed by no less than Donald Trump himself. No question that. And now he's talking about, you know, a different trade deal with Canada. So there's no question that these measures lead to considerable uncertainty with businesses. And it's one of the reasons why those cracks in the economy I described in my first response have been so problematic. Businesses are basically saying to themselves, especially those exposed to the tariffs, we're going to sit on our hands in terms of investment. Business investment has taken a hit. We're going to sit in our hands in terms of hiring. I was going to build that warehouse extension, but let me see where this lands. So as long as the plane never lands Lens, that kind of uncertainty just festers and the problem is, and I think a lot of folks are getting this wrong. This is not over today. Anyone who thinks that we've resolved the chaotic trade war on August 1st is engaged in wishful thinking. There's lots more negotiation that's going to go on, especially when Donald Trump realizes that many of these side deals he thinks he's made with the EU and with Japan to buy hundreds of billions of dollars worth of American energy or invest, those are extremely flimsy. And the partners on the other side, they don't see it the same way he does. And I think when that reaches him, he's going to start renegotiating so that I don't see that uncertainty going away.
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Caroline Levitt
Sam we will have a lot more on these tariffs and other and our nation's economic picture throughout the show. We also get a jobs report later today. Former chair of the Council of Economic Advisers under President Biden, Jared Bernstein. Jared, thank you for joining us. We'll turn now to the latest in the Jeffrey Epstein matter. The family of Virginia Giuffre, the woman who accused Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell of abuse, is now demanding answers after President Trump's recent comments about his falling out with Epstein. NBC News correspondent Hallie Jackson has the details.
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Jonathan Lemire
The family of one of Jeffrey Epstein's most vocal accusers speaking out publicly.
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Caroline Levitt
She wasn't an object.
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Jonathan Lemire
They're responding to this moment this week when the president suggested Epstein stole Virginia Giuffre from his Mar A Lago club decades ago when she worked there.
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Jared Bernstein
He stole her. And by the way, she had no complaints about us, as you know, none whatsoever.
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Jonathan Lemire
What went through your mind when you heard that?
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Caroline Levitt
I think we were shocked by it, especially to use the term stolen.
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Jared Bernstein
Because.
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Caroline Levitt
She'S not an object, she's a person.
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Jonathan Lemire
The White House press secretary says President Trump was directly responding to a question posed by a reporter about Ms. Giuffre. He did not bring her up. President Trump has denied any knowledge of Epstein's wrongdoing and said he kicked Epstein out of his club for being a creep.
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Caroline Levitt
Did you know why he was taking.
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Eugene Daniels
Those young women, including Virginia?
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Jared Bernstein
No, I didn't know. I don't know really why. But I said if he's taken anybody from Mar A Lago, he's hiring or whatever he's doing. I didn't like it and we threw him out.
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Jonathan Lemire
Jeffrey, who died by suicide in April, said it was Epstein's convicted accomplice, Ghislaine Maxwell, who recruited and trafficked her. Her family now urging the administration and the president not to pardon Maxwell.
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Dr. Horton
You know, I think that my sister.
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Jared Bernstein
Would have been mortified if she were let out of prison.
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Caroline Levitt
I think the word that comes to mind is it would be an abomination.
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Jonathan Lemire
A senior administration official tells NBC News no leniency is being given or discussed, but President Trump has not publicly ruled it out.
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Caroline Levitt
There's more to be said and there's more to be done for these survivors. They deserve justice. We deserve to know.
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Jonathan Lemire
Sky, will you keep fighting on behalf of your sister, on behalf of other survivors.
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Caroline Levitt
Every day? Hallie Jackson with that report. Certainly. Heartbreaking words, Eugene. This is a story that just won't go away for President Trump, despite his best efforts. We're in August now. Speaker Johnson sent the House home hoping this would dissipate. We'll see what lawmakers hear from their constituents as they return to their districts. But this is something, as you well know, that just sort of hovers over the West Wing to Trump's deep frustration. He simply can't change the narrative.
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Hallie Jackson
Well, he can't change it because he continues to talk about it. It's not just us asking him questions when he, when someone does something, he has something to say. He has social. He throws on social media. And so it's not just that, you know, Republicans or Democrats want to talk about it, that the media is talking about, that these families and these survivors still have stories to be told. It's that President Trump, despite his, you know, typical ability to move on from things and stories, he continues to bring it up. And more importantly, his story keeps changing. Jonathan. Right. Like you see, you know, the idea of why Jeffrey Epstein, in the president's words, still has been stealing these, stole these girls from Mar a Lago. And more than one of, according to the president, not according to us, that story continues to change. That's the opposite of what Caroline Levitt said. Why they fell out. Right. Caroline Levitt said is because he was being a creep there. That's not what the president said. I think it isn't going to go away. You also have the continuing to issue simmering in the MAGA base about the release of the file. So there's so many different avenues here as to why this story continues to be a problem. It also speaks to a larger conversation in this country about rich people, rich and powerful, doing things that are bad. Right. And so that is not. That's why one of the things, President Trump is not going to be able to shake this anytime soon.
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Caroline Levitt
Yeah, it's a great and underreported point here. I think that President Trump's version of events as to why he and Epstein fell out keeps changing. And you're right, Eugene, to bring up why this story has resonated, including on the maga right, which has been pushing the conspiracies for so long and won't let it go despite what Trump wants. We'll have more on that later on. Next up here on Morning Joe, we'll dig into the pressure that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is now facing amid the growing concerns over the worsening humanitarian crisis and famine in Gaza. And the latest on how the White House is trying to handle the situation. Plus, speaking of town halls, a Republican congressman faces tough questions from constituents who are upset with President Trump's one big beautiful bill. We'll show you some of that contentious event. And of course, a reminder, the Morning Joe podcast available each and every weekday, featuring our full conversations, analysis and jokes about Sam Stein's physical fitness. You can listen wherever you get your podcasts. You're watching Morning Joe. We'll be right back.
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Jonathan Lemire
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Jared Bernstein
I am so disappointed, I am so disappointed in how you represent us as the citizen of Walworth County. South Wisconsin has not been represented by you. President Trump seems to run southeast Wisconsin through you. And all I have to ask is I will be out there working hard if you choose to run for any office.
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Eugene Daniels
I don't think you, you're the right fit for us anymore.
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Caroline Levitt
I just think it's time to.
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Eugene Daniels
You just don't relate to most of us anymore. And you gotta know when step down. I think it's time.
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Caroline Levitt
That was Congressman Stiles first town hall since the passage of the Republicans budget mega bill. The so called one big beautiful bill. Jen Palmeri we've talked a lot about how Republicans during this August recess are going to go home and face tough questions. This congressman certainly did and it's striking though about what he was asked about. Certainly, you know, we wondered if Epstein would come up sometime. Certainly cuts to Medicaid and the like but this one in particular seemed to really draw the constituents anger over immigration, the deportations of their neighbors, particularly by masked ICE agents. Do we think this Congressman Wisconsin saw last night is coming attractions for what his colleagues will throughout this next month.
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Eugene Daniels
If they have the nerve to do the town halls. Right. I mean what's interesting about that, there's two, there's one of two things happening in that town hall. Either it was organized by Democrats and that shows that Democrats in Wisconsin are organized and that's positive news for Democrats or It was not organized. And that is organic anger. And that is also positive news for Democrats. I mean, so the things that we're supposed to be trying to Trump's that were supposed to be his strengths. Right. Immigration was supposed to be his strength. And you see public opinion continues to. That he continues to lose in public opinion on immigration, that number is going down. And I think it's because people just sort of feel at their gut, as that woman expressed, like, why are they wearing masks? You know, it's naughty. She doesn't go to the deportation, the question of people being deported, but it's also just the manner in which it's happening. So, you know, that just seems, it's the kind of thing that strike a chord with people because you're like, that's not who we are as Americans. And you feel that with immigration, you see public support for immigrants and immigrant state in the country is going up as a result of this. That's out there. It's a gut thing with people. They don't like how this is being handled and that. And it's sort of. I mean, one of those women sounded like she might have been a Republican who had supported him in the past. But on the Medicaid, I think that's the. So what Democrats should do in August is really define what happened in the big beautiful bill to be able understand that, how it impacts their health care costs. And I would make that a singular focus so that people understand Medicaid costs, what they mean for rural hospitals, and even if you're not reliant on Medicaid, what it likely is going to mean. More visits to the emergency room for people who are on Medicaid and can't get support now. And that means your health care costs are going to go up, up as well and go into September with whatever people feel about immigration, but also some definition around health care costs, which is one of the biggest concerns people have when they're, you know, sitting around the Christian table talking about what their. How their own personal economy is going.
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Caroline Levitt
And Sam, we are a long way from November 2026, but any Republican looking to hold on to his or her job then has to look at that last night and feel a little bit antsy.
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Sam Stein
Yeah, I haven't seen a negative reaction like that since we ran those focus groups on your early. Way too early hosting. It was brutal.
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Caroline Levitt
Yeah, you're right. Someone just said I wasn't a good fit.
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Sam Stein
Yeah. Your time probably should. You should probably leave the stage. I'm with Jen. The notable thing Here is that he showed up.
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Hallie Jackson
Right?
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Sam Stein
I mean, here's the thing. These Republicans have been instructed to not hold these town halls for a reason because they're going to produce spectacles like that. The electorate, at least the electorate that is willing to get up and go to a physical town hall and express their opinions is deeply angry with Republicans. I think the surprise I'm with Jen here is not just that it's about, you know, health care or the big beautiful bill. The surprise to me was that they mentioned the ICE agents and the masking. It's not a one issue, but it's becoming that. And you see that in the polls now, too, where public perceptions about immigration, which was Trump's strength, have really soured. And he now is underwater on the topic, not necessarily on securing the border. He still gets positive remarks. Sorry, positive remarks for that. But on the other facets of immigration policy, he is underwater. And so if you combine that with the big beautiful bill, with Medicaid, with the possibility that there's going to be premium increases because the Obamacare subsidies go away with the issue of, of the cost of goods, as Jared Bernstein talked, I mean, that is a bad brute for Republicans. And if you can't show up at town halls to pitch it, it becomes even harder to turn it around.
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Caroline Levitt
Yeah, no question there. I think the Republicans who do have these town halls are going to be in for it. Many districts across the country. We turn now to a frankly jaw dropping story. The Washington Post has a new reporting on the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History history removing a label referring to President Trump's two impeachments from an exhibit display there in the museum. In response to that reporting, a spokesperson from the museum told NBC News, because the other topics in this section had not been updated since 2008, the decision was made to restore the impeachment case back to its 2008 appearance, adding, quote, a large permanent gallery like the American presidency that opened in 2000 requires significant amount of time and funding to update and renew a future. And updated exhibit will include all impeachments. A temporary label that included content about Trump's two impeachments had been on display since September 2021. Now the exhibit notes that only three presidents have seriously faced removal. A person familiar with the exhibit plans told the Washington Post a change came as part of a content review that the Smithsonian agreed to undertake following pressure from the White House to remove an art museum. Museum director Eugene this is an attempt to literally rewrite history. We know that as the Washington Post terrific report. White House pressuring the Smithsonian to remove its director as part of this, the Smithsonian just decided to restore that exhibit. Just picking a year 2008. Sort of a random choice, but one that predates President Trump's time in office and his two impeachments that will be in the history books no matter what he tries to say.
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Hallie Jackson
Yeah. I think the thing that so shocking here is that their explanation, the museum's explanation for this is kind of winding and hard to figure out.
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Eugene Daniels
Out.
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Hallie Jackson
Right. Which is for all of us that are skeptics by trade, know what that means typically, is that something is happening behind the scenes and it's that this president not only wants to change and has changed the way politics works, he's obsessed with the culture. And I think this is something that we don't talk enough about, which is Donald Trumpand he understood this as we went into November, and he still continues to understand that if you change the culture, tweak the culture and have control over the culture, that is much more important sometimes than the actual politics and power policy of the country. And anything that goes against him, so it shouldn't be a surprise is something that he has an issue with. It is a fact that he was impeached twice. Right. We all saw it. We all watched it. But as folks come here, whether they're from other countries, whether they're young kids learning about these kinds of things now, they won't see that 2008 is a very random date to choose about when the last president was impeached. It wasn't then. We know that. And the fact that 2021, it's been there since 2021 that President Trump was impeached. And now they're moving it as one of those things that is we're watching the changing of and the Donald Trump putting his thumb on the scale in places where presidents typically completely stay out of. Right. It should concern Americans because these are the kinds of things that you tweak and slow walk that become much bigger issues at the end of the day. And we've seen Donald Trump and folks that work for him for years lie about whether it was the election or the 2020 election or the 2024 election, that that's continued and that's not going to stop. But now we're starting to see kind of our institutions doing the same thing.
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Alex Corson
Yeah.
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Caroline Levitt
And Janet Palmeri, quick final word to you on this. To Eugene's point, this is not the kind of thing that happens in a healthy democracy. This is a, this is feel. You could argue it's small. It's not. It feels like it's the kind of thing that leads us on a very slippery slope.
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Eugene Daniels
It does. And the other thing that it reveals is how much they've thought this through. Right. I'm not sure it would have occurred to me I had been White House communications director to worry about what was on display in the American President's wing of the Smithsonian. But they have thought that all through and they have obviously, you know, and then and pursued the strategy to, to rid, to rewrite history and you know, in every manner, every like angle of the federal government.
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Caroline Levitt
Yeah, absolutely. Right. An important story. We'll keep an eye on it to be sure. Next, though, we will turn to sports and the aforementioned flurry of moves across Major League Baseball ahead of the trade deadline. Pablo Torre will join us for that conversation. That's straight ahead here on Morning Joe.
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Caroline Levitt
Oh good song choice there. Live look at Kennedy Space center where we expect action today. We didn't get any yesterday because with just one minute until liftoff, NASA and SpaceX had to scrub the launch of its Crew 11 mission to the International Space Station. Officials say the decision came down to poor weather conditions as well as a missed window to properly align the Falcon 9 rocket with the ISS. They will indeed attempt to launch again today a little before noon. The crew, made up of American, Japanese and Russian astronauts, is expected to spend at least six months aboard the space station and will relieve the team that was sent up there in March. We will see if they can achieve liftoff later today. Elsewhere in the skies, new details on a story we brought you yesterday. The FAA says it will investigate a case of severe turbulence that forced a Delta Air Lines flight headed to Europe to make an emergency landing and sent more than two dozen people to the hospital. NBC News senior correspondent Tom Costello has the details.
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Dr. Horton
Minneapolis airport plane spotter streamed the emergency landing live.
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Sam Stein
Delta 56 was bound for Amsterdam.
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Caroline Levitt
Schiphol departed Salt Lake City a few hours ago.
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Dr. Horton
Ambulances lined up for dozens of patients after the Delta jumbo jet hit extreme turbulence over Wyoming.
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Eugene Daniels
The heavy air buff. And they do have a medical emergency on board.
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Dr. Horton
Photos show the aftermath. Food bottles, backpacks and service cards, 25 passengers and crew members taken to area hospitals. Leanne Nash, on board with her husband.
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Jonathan Lemire
Says everything went flying literally without absolutely any warning.
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Caroline Levitt
We just, we hit what, you know, appears to be like a brick wall.
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Jared Bernstein
We really thought that this was going to tear the plane apart. So for a brief moment, we thought we were going to die.
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Dr. Horton
In a statement, Delta says all seven crew members who were taken to area hospitals were treated and released. Aviation experts say summer heat can supercharge violent, clear air turbulence. Flights over mountain ranges can be especially vulnerable.
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Alex Corson
If you imagine the airflow over this wing experiencing a sudden updraft, this wing will be pushed up violently and instantaneously and the airplane will tilt to the.
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Dr. Horton
Left, invisible to radar. Pilots rely on fellow pilots radio reports to avoid it. As we saw at the American Airlines command center, when you get into bad turbulence, what are your options?
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Caroline Levitt
Either rise above it or dip under it.
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Jared Bernstein
Most of the time when you're in it, you have to write through it.
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Caroline Levitt
NBC's Tom Costello with that report. Still ahead here, President Trump signed an executive order bringing the presidential fitness test back to public schools. We'll tell you about that and the big names flanking Trump during yesterday's White House event. Plus, Democratic Congressman Dan Goldman of New York will be our guest to discuss the lawsuit he's filed demanding access to ICE detention facilities. Morning Joe will be right back.
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Jared Bernstein
It's fun playing first base. The Yankees have acquired Jose Caballero from the race for Everson Pereira and a player to be named later so Caballero will be pulled from this game.
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Caroline Levitt
He will only have to walk from.
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Jared Bernstein
The third base side to the first base side to meet his new team.
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Caroline Levitt
That was the moment that Jose could. Caballero found out the Tampa Bay Rays traded him to the New York Yankees mid game in a game against the New York Yankees. So he didn't have to go far. It's always fun when that happens. That was one of several moves by the Bronx Bombers yesterday who added three good relief pitchers with one of the trades coming minutes before the deadline. Yankees bolster the pen. San Diego Padres, unsurprisingly, were the most active team of the day with five trades involving 22 players. Another big headline. The Minnesota Twins made a surprising move sending Carlos Correa back to the Houston Astros. Correa, of course, was a franchise player in Houston for several years before signing a free agent deal with the twins back in 2022. Mets and Phillies also bolstered their bullpens. Joining us now, the host of Pablo Torre finds out on Meadowlark Media, MSNBC contributor Pablo Torre. Pablo, good to see you.
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Alex Corson
Strong armed, strong arm, which I believe is a positive back page.
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Caroline Levitt
It has been a while since the Yankees have had a positive back page post. But let's start right there. You well known, well chronicled Yankees fan, very objective, very objective, talking about the Yankees, look, they did what they had to do. Right. They needed to reinforce the bullpen. They did. And I will say there wasn't like a big name traded yesterday. No star moved. No, but there was an extraordinary amount of trade across the league. Clearly showing you a lot of teams think they're in it.
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Alex Corson
Yes, a lot of teams think they're in it. The economics of baseball are in flux as players are yelling at the commissioner, reportedly in clubhouses about, you know, salary cap proposals and so forth. Bleep you was what Bryce Harper said to the commissioner of baseball, which is a fun subplot to all of us, but the Yankees, look, we needed some bullpen help. We got two and a half closers, I believe, two to three. Devon Williams, our incumbent closer, is not the closer that we thought he was. That job remains open. And so I feel better, John. I feel better. I don't know how the Red Sox feel. While you guys are not. I'm looking for you guys. Where are you in the Legend?
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Caroline Levitt
Yeah, we didn't, we didn't do too.
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Alex Corson
Much pages here with his name not in there.
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Caroline Levitt
No, we, Sam and I mentioned earlier this is yet another trade deadline. The Sox enter it in contention don't really do anything which can't, you know, they picked up a couple relievers, but they can't, can't be perceived in the clubhouse as a vote of confidence going forward for a team that's very much still in the mix.
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Alex Corson
Yes. Neither buying nor selling. Standing pat, making you guys the fan base of the Red Sox, feel like, do we trust the people in charge?
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Caroline Levitt
Yeah.
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Alex Corson
So far the answer is, I mean.
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Caroline Levitt
That has been the question since 2018. And I will say as a final note on them, they trade Rafael Devers. They played well since then. They have. But part of it was to save that money. Okay, let's see them spend that money. They didn't do it now at the deadline. They better do it that off season. Let's hit another sports headline now. An unexpected one, perhaps. Yesterday at the White House, President Trump signed an executive order restoring the Presidential Fitness Test in public schools. The program, which was originally established back in 1956, assessed students physical fitness through exercises like runnings, push ups and sit ups. It was replaced in 2012 by the Obama administration with a program that emphasized individual progress over standardized benchmarks. Trump made the announcement while introducing his new Council on Sports Fitness and Nutrition, while he was flanked by Pro golfer Bryson DeChambeau, NFL kicker Harrison Butger, hall of Fame NFL linebacker Lawrence Taylor, and chief content officer of the wwe, former pro wrestler Paul Triple H. Levesic.
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Jared Bernstein
Well, I'm delighted to be here with some of the truly great sports legends of all time as we formally announce the newest members of the President's Council on Sports, Fitness and Nutrition. The order that I'll sign today in a few moments directs the council to develop strategies to improve America's physical fitness and renewal the American spirit, excellence, competitiveness and sportsmanship. To that end, I'm pleased to announce that we're officially restoring the Presidential Fitness Test and the Presidential Fitness Award. And it's going to be a very big thing.
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Caroline Levitt
I remember crushing the push ups during the Presidential Fitness. I'm not back in my great school. Many patches you guys collected in Lowell, Massachusetts. Okay, it's back. I will say, though, he was joined by a somewhat problematic group of celebrity athletes.
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Alex Corson
I mean, Lawrence Taylor, one of the, maybe the greatest mental player of all time, also at one point, literally a registered sex offender, Triple H, notably not a professional athlete.
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Caroline Levitt
There.
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Alex Corson
He is the guy on the right that Donald Trump also needed help identifying at one point in this video. He is the guy who I guess replaces Nick Saban, who was promised as part of this council to reimagine college.
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Dr. Horton
Sports and college football in particular.
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Alex Corson
That whole group is a bit of a DC Comics suicide squad of misfits running sports. And Jon, I was, look, Presidential Fitness test. I get it. I actually think that's a good thing to bring back. I believe that. Yeah. Maybe I'm just showing my age now. I believe that trophy culture in America is what growing up was like. I needed to stress out about the pull ups. I still reckon with this America. Not easy for your guy. However. However, the other stuff about like we're gonna do stuff that now is in, I don't know, in the remaking of sports in America. Trust us. I'm like, this is a Supreme Court decision. There are settlements. There's triple h now.
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Caroline Levitt
Yeah. RFK and Jen Palmeri.
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Hallie Jackson
Yeah.
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Caroline Levitt
Robert R. Kenny Jr. There as well. Yeah. Presidential Fitness test. Yeah. That's probably a good thing, you know, but, but let's. But it's another example of how Trump makes everything political. Also there. Harrison Butler, the Kansas City Chiefs kicker made some, you know, drew the ire of many for what was perceived like really controversial sexist remarks.
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Eugene Daniels
Yeah. The. I know. And I was trying to keep the news that Lawrence Taylor was part of this for my husband who was a die hard Giants fan and you know, an elder. Ld's a real problematic guy too. So it is a, it's a. You know, I think it's great. I do. I'm like for coming back. When I first heard about it, I thought maybe Donald Trump would take the Presidential Fitness test. But I don't think that's probably in the cards. But you know, but it. I suspect if Barack Obama had not been the president that had undone this, it probably would not have gotten brought back. But it's like another thing that a Democrat did. So he's got unfortunately do it.
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Sam Stein
Eugene.
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Hallie Jackson
Uh huh.
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Sam Stein
Could you pass the fitness test?
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Hallie Jackson
Absolutely. I could call trouble by baby.
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Caroline Levitt
So don't.
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Hallie Jackson
I could absolutely pass.
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Sam Stein
Maybe, Maybe back then you could pass it, but now could you pass it?
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Alex Corson
Yeah.
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Hallie Jackson
These knees still bend. They still do all the things. The back heel reaches. I can still do all.
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Sam Stein
I'm with Pablo. I have like kind of fond memories of freaking out about the pull ups when I was young and being like I had these like tiny arms and.
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Caroline Levitt
Could I do it?
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Sam Stein
And so, you know, I eventually like jumped up into one probably. But no, I'm totally fine with this being brought back. Even though this is a misfit group of ambassadors, let's put it that way.
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Caroline Levitt
All right, well, we're unanimous. We're glad it's back. We have some questions though coming up here. Thanks everybody.
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