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John Bickley
The DOJ's Epstein files release sets off a firestorm on both sides of the aisle and even prompts a response from Bill Clinton.
Tim Pierce
I didn't notice that kind of reaction when they put out pictures of President Trump from the Epstein estate that were out of context.
Georgia Howe
Why were hundreds of pages blacked out? And what's next in the Epstein political battle?
John Bickley
I'm Daily Wire Executive Editor John Bickley with Georgia Howe. It's Monday, December 22nd. This is Morning Wire.
Donald Trump
I ordered a massive strike on the terrorists that killed our three great patriots last week and it was very successful. It was precision.
Georgia Howe
The US Launches retaliatory strikes in Syria after an ISIS attack and seizes another Venezuelan tanker.
John Bickley
And Turning Point USA's jam packed and at times contentious AM Fest wraps up with a bang.
Donald Trump
Together we can fulfill the promise of.
Ben Shapiro
The greatest nation in the history of the earth.
Donald Trump
Merry Christmas my friends. Let's keep fighting.
Georgia Howe
Thanks for waking up with Morning Wire. Stay tuned. We have the news you need to know.
Ben Shapiro
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Georgia Howe
Justice Department has begun publishing thousands of pages of material tied to its investigations into Jeffrey Epstein. But the rollout has sparked immediate controversy with claims of heavy redaction and missing files.
John Bickley
Joining us with the latest is Daily Wire culture reporter Megan Basham. Hey, Megan. So a lot of people pouring over all of these files that were just released. First, can you walk us through what exactly has been released so far?
Megan Basham
Yeah, John. So thanks to the Epstein Files Transparency act that was passed just last month, the DOJ has now released an initial batch of over 13,000 files. These include investigative materials, grand jury transcripts from cases that were adjudicated in the early 2000s, also police reports, flight logs, handwritten phone messages, and the headline makers, dozens of photographs. So much of this material was already public from prior lawsuits or congressional releases. But we do have some new Items like a 1996 complaint from artist Maria Farmer and that alleges that Epstein possessed and distributed child pornography involving her underage sisters. And then there's also more detailed victim testimonies describing recruitment and abuse that was facilitated by Ghislaine Maxwell.
John Bickley
So some new material but no blockbuster client list then, right?
Megan Basham
Unfortunately not. Basically, I would say what these documents do is reinforce what we already knew. Epstein and Maxwell recruited underage girls for sexual massages that often escalated. They paid them hundreds of dollars and they used threats to silence them. In one, grand jury testimony we have from 2007 describes a recruiter bringing in 7 to 10 high school girls, including a 14 year old girl. So crucially, we do have to note that the DOJ has stated that these files contain no evidence warranting new investigations or charges.
John Bickley
Let's talk about the high profile names involved. Both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump have long been linked to Epstein socially. They both appear in these files. What's the context there?
Megan Basham
Yeah, those photos are definitely what's making the most news. And several undated images show Bill Clinton with Epstein. In one, he's shirtless in a hot tub with someone whose face is blacked out but is described by the DOJ as a victim. Another shows him swimming with Maxwell and others. One shows him on a plane with a Young woman draped over him. Once again, her identity is redacted. So all of this led CNN commentator Scott Jennings to say that he thinks these should really be called the Clinton files.
Donald Trump
Regarding Bill Clinton. I'm sorry to tell you the reason that Bill Clinton's picture is in the Epstein files is because this has always been a story about Bill Clinton and not Donald Trump. We should call it the Clinton files, not the Epstein files.
Megan Basham
But Clinton's spokesperson said that he cut ties with Epstein before these crimes were widely known. Now, for President Trump's part, despite a lot of viral claims that you may see circulating on social media, I would say that his mentions are fairly minimal. There's a handwritten phone message noting a missed call from him. There's also a book of his on Epping Epstein shelf. And one photo that was initially released but later removed from the DOJ site until they put it back, saying that they determined that it didn't reveal any victim identities. It shows a desk with an open drawer with pictures including Trump with Epstein, Melania Trump, and Maxwell. And then there was also another photo of Trump surrounded by women. But, you know, we want to stress these were adult women in the photo. No documents accuse Trump or Clinton of sexual misconduct or knowledge of Epstein's crimes. And the same does go for a lot of other celebrities that we see in these photos. People like Bill Gates, for example.
John Bickley
But we should note there has been a lot of criticism of files disappearing from the website, hundreds of pages, fully redacted. What's the explanation from the administration for that?
Megan Basham
Yeah, you're hearing a lot of critics saying that the DOJ violated the law by not releasing everything at once. So over 680 pages are completely blacked out, and at least 15 images, some that are related to Trump, vanished from the site overnight. Senate Democrats are accusing the DOJ of trying to protect Trump here, but Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche has strongly denied that. He said that these redactions are to protect the over 1200 victim identities. The White House, meanwhile, is also pushing back hard. They say this is unprecedented transparency, more than any other prior administration, and that these rolling releases are necessary due to the sheer volume of records and to protect victims. But that said, there are still hundreds of thousands of records under review, and those are still going to be released on a rolling basis in the coming weeks. So we could be learning more in the near future.
John Bickley
We'll certainly be keeping an eye on that. Megan, thank you so much for reporting.
Megan Basham
Yep, my pleasure.
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John Bickley
President Trump has followed through on his promise to avenge three Americans killed in Syria last week, carrying out dozens of strikes against ISIS in Syria. Meanwhile, the US has seized another Venezuelan tanker.
Georgia Howe
Daily Wire reporter Tim Pierce is here to talk about the US Strikes, plus the latest from Venezuela. So, Tim, first off, what happened in Syria?
Tim Pierce
Right. Well, Trump promised that anybody who targets Americans would be hit harder than you have ever been hit before. Obviously, the President has a hyperbolic way of speaking, but then you look at what happened Friday and you understand what Trump warned about. These were significant strikes. The US military, with some help from Jordan, hit 70 plus ISIS targets across Syria. An early report from a Syria monitoring group said that at least five ISIS terrorists were killed. That number could climb. But even if that's all, the destruction of ISIS infrastructure was extensive. That includes munitions, supplies, hideouts. And as a reminder, this was because a gunman killed two US Service members and one American civilian translator last week. So was it proportional? Probably not. But the underlying message from the administration is that proportionality isn't the point. Rather, the point is that anyone who wants to attack an American should be prepared to suffer drastic consequences. Despite the scope of the retaliation, war Secretary Pete Hegseth tamped down fears that this could lead to a wider conflict. Hegseth said on X, quote, this is not the beginning of a war. It is a declaration of vengeance. The United States of America, under President Trump's leadership, will never hesitate and never relent to defend our people.
Georgia Howe
Now, Syria's president and President Trump had been attempting to normalize relations. He had just visited the president at the White House. What does this attack mean for that relationship?
Tim Pierce
Yeah, Trump made it a point on Truth Social on Friday that Syrian President Ahmed Al Sharah is still okay with the White House. Trump said, quote, the government of Syria, led by a man who is working very hard to bring greatness back to Syria, is fully in support. The Syrian government released its own statement on Saturday that reaffirmed the government's support for stamping out ISIS and that it invites the United States, United States to support these efforts in a manner that contributes to the protection of civilians and the restoration of security and stability. In the region. But there are also a lot of complications in this region that are worth noting, such as Al Sharaz background is riddled with its own connections to terrorism and it's the same case with this government. The man who killed the Americans and set off this retaliation from the United States was apparently a member of Syrian security forces, though Syrian officials have said that that man was under scrutiny and was probably soon to be fired because of his extremist view.
Georgia Howe
Now, as we mentioned at the top, the US Military continues to carry out operations against Venezuela, which itself has a connection to terrorism. What's the latest on that front?
Tim Pierce
Yeah, we've had another tanker seized and this as the president continues to ramp up his pressure campaign. Here's Daily Wire reporter Ginny Terror with the latest on that.
Georgia Howe
It's part of the president's new blockade to stop the sanctioned vessels from going in and out of Venezuela and concealing their whereabouts in order to circumvent legal restrictions.
Amanda Presto
The vessel, known as Bella 1, was.
Georgia Howe
Sanctioned by the US for allegedly moving cargo to line the pockets of US designated terrorist organizations Hezbollah and Iran's IRGC.
Tim Pierce
Now, that was after Trump spoke to NBC News last week and said that war with Venezuela isn't off the table. Now, this could just be another pressure tactic, but from the standpoint of Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro, he may be at least a little concerned that Trump might be serious about this.
Georgia Howe
No doubt. Tim, thanks for reporting.
Tim Pierce
Good to be on.
Georgia Howe
Turning Point USA's big annual conference, America Fest had more eyes than ever this year as organizers set out to honor its founder Charlie Kirk and give the stage to the most influential voices in the conservative movement.
John Bickley
Joining us now to discuss is Daily Wire reporter Amanda Presto. Giacomo. Morning, Amanda. So there were obviously some pretty explosive moments at this event, and Daily Wire's Ben Shapiro certainly played his part there. But let's start big picture. Our team was on the ground there. What was the energy, the atmosphere like at the event?
Amanda Presto
Well, first of all, this was a truly massive event, surely the most well attended and streamed AM fest ever. And the energy matched that. As you noted, John, we had our DC Team hosting a marathon livestream event all four days and our two lead hosts were DC Bureau Chief Tim Rice and White House correspondent Mary Margaret Olihan. We asked them about the energy at the event. Here's what Tim told us.
Ben Shapiro
It has been an absolutely electric few days here in Phoenix. Of course, the headlines and the conversation on Twitter is all about the fiery speeches we've seen on the main stage. But in the crowd at the conference. Everyone was just having a blast, engaging in friendly conversation, really taking time to honor Charlie's legacy and get excited about the future of the conservative movement and the Republican Party.
John Bickley
Now, the final day was really hyped up by organizers, and it didn't disappoint. What did we see yesterday?
Amanda Presto
Yeah, yesterday was insane. It was very much Turning Point. It was very Charlie Kirk. Erica Kirk brought out rapper Nicki Minaj on stage. She's been speaking out about Christian persecution abroad and praising the Trump administration. Minaj earned big applause, and her remarks really resonated with the crowd. Here she is.
Georgia Howe
We're going to stay joyful and peaceful.
Megan Basham
And iconic and smart, and we're gonna.
Georgia Howe
Stay thinkers in a world that doesn't.
Megan Basham
Want us to think.
Amanda Presto
There was also a very well received speech from Vice President J.D. vance. He's loved at Turning Point, during the conference, Erica actually endorsed vance for a 2028 run. And finally, the biggest of all names, President Trump called in, and he really revved up the crowd.
Donald Trump
I just want to say that nobody did more for me than Charlie, and there's nobody better than Erica, and you are the greatest people on earth. We won in a landslide, and we're going to continue to do it.
John Bickley
Now, we mentioned some of the fireworks from the weekend. Charlie Kirk's vision for the event was in part to bring together conservatives across the spectrum. But he and TPOSA also stressed that conservatives need to be clear about what they believed. Those issues were major themes from the start. Tell us about that.
Amanda Presto
Right. The issue of where conservatives draw the line on things like platforming neo Nazis or pushing conspiracies, including ones aimed at Turning Point, became a major theme of the event from day one. When Ben Shapiro spoke, he specifically cited Candace Owens pushing conspiracy theories, suggesting people in Turning Point, even Erica Kirk, were somehow, quote, complicit in covering up the supposed truth about the assassination of Charlie Kirk. These false claims, Shapiro said, must be called out by conservatives.
Donald Trump
The people who refuse to condemn Candace's truly vicious attacks, and some of them are speaking here, are guilty of cowardice.
Amanda Presto
Shapiro also outlined obligations that conservatives owe their audiences.
Donald Trump
We who speak to people on a regular basis, who have a microphone and an audience, we have duties to you. The duty to speak the truth, the duty to speak from principle, not personal feeling, the duty to take responsibility for our own actions, the duty to provide you with evidence, to do more than conspiracies or just ask questions, and the duty to posit real solutions. And if we fail in those duties, you shouldn't listen to us.
Amanda Presto
Notably, Owens was not invited to the event, but Shapiro's reference to the people speaking at Amfest did cause a stir, to say the least. He specifically named Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly and also slammed Steve Bannon. All three of them did go on to speak and unsurprisingly criticized Shapiro, claiming he was calling for censorship and deplatforming, though Kelly did say that she wants Owens to move on from Turning Point. And Erica Kirk now, while there was some drama, there was also a lot of unity at the event. And it seems right to give Erica Kirk the last word on this here, as she remarked on some of the contentious moments when she took the stage on Friday after Megyn Kelly and Jack Posobic discussed Shapiro's speech. Well, say what you want about Amfest, but it's definitely not boring. Feels like a Thanksgiving dinner where your family's hashing out the family business.
John Bickley
And she's certainly right too, that this event was not boring. It had a little bit of everything.
Amanda Presto
Yeah, it did.
John Bickley
Amanda, thanks for reporting.
Amanda Presto
You're welcome.
Georgia Howe
Before you go, we have some programming notes as we start the Christmas holidays. We're going to be changing up a few things for the next week or two. We won't have evening wires, but we will continue to offer fresh content every morning, including our regular news show for the first half of the of this week, followed by some original interviews and special episodes during the holiday. And as always, if there is a massive breaking news story, we won't hesitate to drop a special episode. Thanks for waking up with us. We'll be back tomorrow morning with the news you need to know.
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Date: December 22, 2025
Hosts: John Bickley, Georgia Howe
Featured Reporters: Megan Basham, Tim Pierce, Amanda Prestigiacomo
This episode of Morning Wire covers three major news stories:
Key Segment: [02:52] – [07:48]
“...one grand jury testimony we have from 2007 describes a recruiter bringing in 7 to 10 high school girls, including a 14 year old girl.”
— Megan Basham [04:33]
Bill Clinton:
“He thinks these should really be called the Clinton files.”
— Megan Basham [05:20]
Donald Trump:
“These redactions are to protect the over 1,200 victim identities. The White House, meanwhile, is also pushing back hard. They say this is unprecedented transparency, more than any other prior administration.”
— Megan Basham [07:10]
Key Segment: [08:26] – [11:55]
“These were significant strikes. The US military, with some help from Jordan, hit 70 plus ISIS targets across Syria... the destruction of ISIS infrastructure was extensive.”
— Tim Pierce [08:53]
Policy Statement:
“This is not the beginning of a war. It is a declaration of vengeance. The United States of America, under President Trump's leadership, will never hesitate and never relent to defend our people.”
— [09:46]
Diplomatic Context:
“The vessel... was sanctioned by the US for allegedly moving cargo to line the pockets of US designated terrorist organizations Hezbollah and Iran’s IRGC.”
— Georgia Howe [11:29]
Key Segment: [12:00] – [16:40]
“It has been an absolutely electric few days here in Phoenix... Everyone was just having a blast, engaging in friendly conversation, really taking time to honor Charlie’s legacy and get excited about the future of the conservative movement and the Republican Party.”
— Tim Rice (via Amanda Prestigiacomo) [12:53]
“We’re going to stay joyful and peaceful... and iconic and smart, and we’re gonna stay thinkers in a world that doesn’t want us to think.”
— Nicki Minaj [13:37]
“I just want to say that nobody did more for me than Charlie, and there’s nobody better than Erica, and you are the greatest people on earth. We won in a landslide, and we’re going to continue to do it.”
— Donald Trump [14:05]
“The people who refuse to condemn Candace’s truly vicious attacks, and some of them are speaking here, are guilty of cowardice.”
— Ben Shapiro [15:04]
Shapiro’s Duties for Conservative Media:
“Duty to speak the truth, speak from principle, not personal feeling, take responsibility, provide evidence, more than just conspiracies or asking questions, posit real solutions.”
— Ben Shapiro [15:15]
Onstage Fallout:
“Say what you want about Amfest, but it’s definitely not boring. Feels like a Thanksgiving dinner where your family’s hashing out the family business.”
— Erica Kirk (quoted by Amanda Prestigiacomo) [16:18]
“We should call it the Clinton files, not the Epstein files.”
— Donald Trump quoting Jennings [05:30]
“The people who refuse to condemn Candace’s truly vicious attacks [...] are guilty of cowardice.” [15:04]
“We who speak to people on a regular basis [...] have duties to you. The duty to speak the truth...” [15:15]
“Feels like a Thanksgiving dinner where your family’s hashing out the family business.” [16:18]
This episode offers a comprehensive, factual analysis of three major stories shaping U.S. politics and culture as 2025 ends:
The reporting maintains a pointed, matter-of-fact tone while calling out ideological differences and offering a behind-the-scenes look at unfolding national conversations.