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Georgia Howe
President Trump leans on Russia and Ukraine for a swift deal as Zelensky meets with European leaders in London.
Luke Rosiak
There are some things which we can't.
John Bickley
Manage without Americans, things which we can't without Europe.
Luke Rosiak
That's why we need to make some important decisions.
Show Host
Well, new allegations of corruption against Ukraine affect the peace talks.
Georgia Howe
I'm Georgia Howe with Daily Wire executive editor John Bickley. It's Tuesday, December 9th, and this is Morning Wire.
Luke Rosiak
I can say in my opinion that the contracts that I feel were signed felt like we weren't doing 51% of the work and I never.
John Bickley
What were you doing?
Show Host
A major hearing on Capitol Hill this week on fraud within the government. We talk with Daily Wire investigative reporter Luke Rosiak, who's testifying before the Senate.
Georgia Howe
And a new memo reportedly shows that former President Biden Biden ignored warnings about the chaotic implications of his immigration agenda.
Show Host
Thanks for waking up with Morning Wire. Stay tuned. We have the news you need to know.
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Ukraine's President Zelensky met with European leaders on Monday to rally support for the war. Meanwhile, the New York Times published an explosive report on Ukrainian corruption.
Georgia Howe
Daily Wire reporter Tim Pierce is here to talk about the latest on Ukraine. So, Tim, President Trump has been mediating peace talks between Russia and Ukraine. Has he made any progress? Where do things stand now?
Tim Pierce
Yeah, there has been some progress over the past few weeks, but talks at the moment are stuck. President Trump seemed a bit frustrated on Sunday when he suggested President Zelensky had ignored the latest iteration of the plan.
John Bickley
I'm a little bit disappointed that President Zelensky hasn't yet read the proposal. That was as of a few hours ago. His people love it, but he has. Russia's fine with it. Russia's, you know, Russia, Russia, I guess, would rather have the whole country when.
Show Host
You think of it.
John Bickley
But Russia is, I believe, fine with it.
Tim Pierce
Zelensky did talk a bit about the current framework on Monday. He said the disagreement is over the Donbass region in Ukraine's east. The Trump administration reportedly wants Ukraine to hand over control of the rest of the Donbass to Russia, which already controls most of it. In return, Ukraine would get security guarantees and financing to help rebuild. But Zelensky doesn't want to give up that land, or rather he says he can't because the Ukrainian constitution won't allow it.
Georgia Howe
Now, Zelenskyy is quite reliant on the US to continue this war. So what's his alternative?
Tim Pierce
Well, Zelenskyy wants to freeze the conflict along its current lines. And he isn't the only one not really happy about the way the negotiations are going. European leaders are frustrated, too. Zelenskyy was in London yesterday and he met with the E3 or the top leaders in Europe. UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer, French President Emmanuel Macron, and German Chancellor Friedrich Mears. Here's Starmer laying out Europe's position on the negotiations.
Show Host
The principles remain, the principles that we've raised on for a very, very long time, which is that we stand with Ukraine and if there's to be a ceasefire, it needs to be a just and lasting ceasefire.
Tim Pierce
MERS was the most vocal about disagreements with the U.S. we are still and.
Luke Rosiak
Remain strongly behind Ukraine and giving support to your country, because we all know that this destiny of this country is.
Tim Pierce
The destiny of Europe. I'm skeptical about some of the details.
Luke Rosiak
Which we are seeing in documents coming.
Tim Pierce
From US side, but we have to talk about that.
Georgia Howe
So Europe is siding with Zelensky here. Now I want to also ask you about some New York Times reporting that has alleged some serious corruption from the Zelensky administration and some people around him siphoning off millions from US Aid to enrich individuals. How is that affecting the negotiations?
Show Host
Right.
Tim Pierce
The TIME report essentially says that Zelensky's administration has stonewalled oversight and slashed regulations that were intended to curb corruption. Now, the government says these reforms were necessary for quick action after Ukraine was invaded, but the costs have been astronomical. According to the Times report, anti corruption authorities say Zelensky's inner circle has siphoned off $100 million from Ukraine's state owned nuclear power company alone. But while the Times report is new, Ukrainian corruption really is not. And European officials seem to think that their overriding interest still lies in backing Ukraine against Russia, even if a lot of that money lines the pockets of corrupt officials. Here's NAT Secretary General Mark Ruda last week complimenting Zelensky on anti corruption efforts.
John Bickley
I think the Ukrainian president is taking all the necessary steps to root out corruption.
Tim Pierce
Now this may become more of an issue once the war is ended and reconstruction starts. After the immediate threat of the Russia invasion is dealt with, Europe and the United States may have a lot more to say about how that aid money is being spent.
Georgia Howe
Well, this has been a concern from Americans from the very start. Tim, thanks for reporting.
Tim Pierce
Thanks for having me.
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Georgia Howe
Daily Wire investigative reporter Luke Rosiak will testify to the Senate on Wednesday as an expert on what he calls the government's longest running, largest and most corrupt DEI program.
Show Host
The Senate Small Business Committee oversees the Small Business Administration and its government wide minority contracting program called 8A, or set aside Contracting. Luke, you're getting prepared to testify. It's very exciting. First, how did this come about? It's actually years in the making, right?
Luke Rosiak
Hey, John. Yeah, I mean, I guess it was about 15 years ago. I remember sitting in a cafe doing some computer programming on my laptop and a well dressed black man was sitting next to me and he looked over at my screen and he said, I see your programming in C. Do you want to come work for me? And the problem was I was not programming in C. I was programming in a different language that looks nothing like it. And I remember thinking like, what is going on here? Why is this guy, he doesn't even know what, what programming is, but he wants to hire me off the street when I'm not even a real computer programmer. I kind of dabble in it on the side. But for all I know, he was ready to task me with building some sensitive government system because I said, you know, what's going on? He said, well, it's, it's eight a contract. I mean, I just, I just get the contract and then I basically find random people to do the work. So, you know, I didn't take the job. Instead I, as an investigative Reporter looked into 8 and what I found is that that's pretty much par for the course.
Tim Pierce
Incredible.
Show Host
So this is the same program that James o' Keefe recently exposed a couple of weeks ago.
Luke Rosiak
So the new contract is basically close to 100 million.
Jenny Terre
What's the percentage that ATI will retain.
Luke Rosiak
From that 100 million?
John Bickley
65 for us being the prime.
Georgia Howe
And you pay these like accentures to do the job.
Jenny Terre
And so it's really minimal work.
Luke Rosiak
Yes, honestly, that's really, in reality, that's what's happening.
Show Host
So explain this to us. What exactly is going on here?
Luke Rosiak
Well, if you're a racial minority, the government can give you a contract without trying to find the best price or the best person. More than 5% of all federal contracts are reserved for these special companies that have pre designated minority or disadvantaged status. And you look at the women owned companies, I mean, a lot of times it's really just a man who has a company and he puts the company in his wife's name. I mean, there's not really any way to prove otherwise, and they probably got a shared bank account anyway, so it's almost impossible to police. The program was created way back in 1978, mostly to help black people, but now we have a much more complex ethnic situation in America. And you have a situation where, for example, people from the country of India get preference for contracts even though they have a higher median income than white people. They're overrepresented, obviously, in fields like it, which, by the way, didn't even exist prior to civil rights. But, you know, one of the things I'm going to tell the Senate is that the scandal here is a little different than people might think. I mean, it's. It is a DEI program, but really what it is at its core is it's a loophole exploited by the government and big corporations. You heard Accenture mentioned in that video to circumvent competitive bidding.
Show Host
All right, so your position is that the government wasn't being tricked, they were actually in on the grift?
Luke Rosiak
Yeah, pretty much. I mean, they just wanted to get money out the door to a regular firm quickly without doing the paperwork. And so this minority contracting program was a convenient mechanism to do this. But the problem is, we have competitive bidding for a reason. I mean, is steering money to particular firms with no sort of assessment of whether it's the best price or these are the best people to do the work. This is like something out of Russia. It enables corruption, and it inflates the cost of everything because you have these middlemen skimming off the top. But, you know, we've all kind of known that this has been going on for years. I mean, it's really a swampy thing where both sides were looking the other way. Native Americans, but also Alaskan natives can get even bigger contracts with no competition. And so for years, the head of appropriations in the Senate was a Republican senator from Alaska, and nobody was allowed to point out that this program was just being shockingly abused.
Show Host
Well, the hope is we may be in a different environment now, especially with the Supreme Court putting limits on how the government can use race. So this hearing on Wednesday will be chaired by Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa. She invited you to testify, correct?
Luke Rosiak
Yeah. Joni is really one of those people who have been in the trenches fighting against government waste since before it was cool. She's chair of the Senate Doge Caucus, and if Congress winds up killing the 8A program after half a century, it'll truly be a sign that the swamp is being drained.
Show Host
Well, look, Good luck. We'll all, of course, be watching here. And I should note that the Daily Wire will be streaming the event live on our platform. Great to have you on.
Luke Rosiak
Thanks, John.
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Show Host
A new report reveals that former President Biden was told that he could have stopped illegal immigration, but chose not to during his tenure in the White House.
Georgia Howe
Here with more on that and other immigration news is Daily Wire immigration reporter Jenny Terre. So, Jenny, first off, what do we know about this new reporting about what was going on behind the scenes with President Biden?
Jenny Terre
It's a really shocking report from the New York Times that President Biden was warned actually before he even assumed office while on the campaign trail that some of his policies that were really open to illegal immigration would lead to political chaos. And that's exactly what happened. We saw that unfold at the border, and we saw it become a top issue for voters in the next election, which many attribute to President Trump's victory. So what happened was there were a number of memos, meetings where aides and experts brought up this issue and warned the Biden team that his policies needed to be stricter or else the border would descend into what we saw, which was millions of illegal immigrants coming across in an absolute free for all.
Georgia Howe
Have we heard from any Biden officials about any regrets, or is there anything on the record of that nature?
Jenny Terre
Right. So, of course, after the fact, we're learning that now all of these former officials are saying, well, there were a lot of mistakes made on the Biden team. And Biden himself, who knowingly went against this advice and said, you know what? I'm gonna still go with my guts here, which is to take away things like asylum restrictions remain in Mexico, which kept people in Mexico rather than releasing them into the United States after they crossed illegally, which really disincentivized more to cross. And we saw, obviously, the numbers pick up. We saw 8 million illegal immigrants cross into the country. Many largely were released. We saw poor vetting because Biden wanted to do things in a very quick, exped manner. And that led in terrorists that led in traffickers that let in cartel members that led to chaos across the country. Like in Aurora, Colorado, where we had train day Aragua taking over apartment complexes. We had communities like Springfield, Ohio, that were reeling from this crisis. So, yes, the Biden administration officials, there's some of them that have come out and told the New York Times that, in fact, there were mistakes made and Biden should have been tougher on this.
Georgia Howe
Now, the other major immigration story that broke over the weekend was an illegal immigrant male who stabbed another citizen on a Charlotte train. That's the second Charlotte train stabbing. We've seen what took place.
Jenny Terre
Right. Like you said, the second stabbing. This is four months after that Ukrainian refugee was killed brutally on her way to work. This was a separate stabbing. So now we have this illegal immigrant who was twice deported from the United States, once under Biden and once under Trump. He snuck back into the country without being detected by border agents, and he wound up in Charlotte. He already had a rap sheet when this happened. He was intoxicated on the train. Allegedly, he got into an argument with a man who was sitting on the train, another passenger who was trying to get him to stop, yelling in his face, drunkenly. And that's when he decided to stab this man brutally and then run off the train. Later we learned actually that this individual not only shouldn't have been in the country, but also was banned from the Charlotte public transportation system before this happened. So it's a really just shocking story. And it continues to show exactly why President Trump really deployed a lot of law enforcement resources to the area, because there was a rise in crime because of incidents like this. And then, of course, the twofold issue of crime and illegal immigration, which we see perfectly showcased here.
Georgia Howe
Alarming stuff. Jenny, thank you so much for reporting.
Jenny Terre
Thank you.
Show Host
Thanks for waking up with us. And if you're listening to the show, you can now watch the show free on Daily Wire. Plus, we'll be back this evening with more news.
Tim Pierce
You need to know.
The Daily Wire, December 9, 2025
Hosts: John Bickley, Georgia Howe
Key Contributors: Tim Pierce, Luke Rosiak, Jenny Terre
In this episode, Morning Wire tackles three major stories:
The show is packed with fresh reporting, notable interviews, and direct quotes—from Capitol Hill to transatlantic diplomacy—delivering listeners an incisive, fact-driven look into today’s most pressing stories.
[02:43 – 06:35]
Main Discussion Points:
Notable Quotes & Moments:
Trump’s Frustration:
"I'm a little bit disappointed that President Zelensky hasn't yet read the proposal. That was as of a few hours ago. His people love it ... Russia’s fine with it. Russia, I guess, would rather have the whole country."
— John Bickley quoting Trump [03:16]
European Unity:
"The principles remain ... we stand with Ukraine and if there's to be a ceasefire, it needs to be a just and lasting ceasefire."
— UK PM Keir Starmer (via Tim Pierce) [04:31] "Remain strongly behind Ukraine and giving support to your country, because we all know that this destiny of this country is ... the destiny of Europe. I'm skeptical about some of the details which we are seeing in documents coming from [the] US side..."
— German Chancellor Friedrich Mears (via Tim Pierce and Luke Rosiak) [04:49]
Corruption Fallout:
"According to the Times report, anticorruption authorities say Zelensky's inner circle has siphoned off $100 million from Ukraine's state owned nuclear power company alone."
— Tim Pierce [05:28]
Western Calculations:
"European officials seem to think that their overriding interest still lies in backing Ukraine against Russia, even if a lot of that money lines the pockets of corrupt officials."
— Tim Pierce [05:44]
NATO’s Cautious Praise:
"I think the Ukrainian president is taking all the necessary steps to root out corruption."
— Quoting NATO Secretary General Mark Ruda [06:12]
[07:38 – 12:22]
Main Discussion Points:
Notable Quotes & Moments:
"About 15 years ago ... a well-dressed black man ... said, 'I see you're programming in C. Do you want to come work for me?' ... I was not programming in C ... But for all I know, he was ready to task me with building some sensitive government system ... He said, 'well, it's 8a contract. I just get the contract and find random people to do the work.'"
— Luke Rosiak [08:06]
"What's the percentage that ATI will retain from that 100 million? ... 65 for us being the prime."
— Interview Exchange (Jenny Terre, Luke Rosiak, John Bickley) [09:10] "If you're a racial minority, the government can give you a contract without trying to find the best price or the best person."
— Luke Rosiak [09:31]
"The government wasn't being tricked, they were actually in on the grift ... They just wanted to get money out the door to a regular firm quickly without doing the paperwork ... This is like something out of Russia. It enables corruption, and it inflates the cost of everything because you have these middlemen skimming off the top."
— Luke Rosiak [10:45 – 11:44]
"If Congress winds up killing the 8A program after half a century, it'll truly be a sign that the swamp is being drained."
— Luke Rosiak [11:57]
[12:56 – 16:54]
Main Discussion Points:
Notable Quotes & Moments:
"President Biden was warned actually before he even assumed office while on the campaign trail that some of his policies ... would lead to political chaos. And that's exactly what happened ... millions of illegal immigrants coming across in an absolute free for all."
— Jenny Terre [13:15]
"Biden himself ... said, you know what? I'm gonna still go with my guts here ... to take away things like asylum restrictions, remain in Mexico ... We saw 8 million illegal immigrants cross into the country."
— Jenny Terre [14:11]
"This is four months after that Ukrainian refugee was killed brutally on her way to work. ... Now we have this illegal immigrant who was twice deported ... He already had a rap sheet ... He got into an argument ... and that's when he decided to stab this man brutally and then run off the train. ... Not only shouldn't he have been in the country, but also was banned from the Charlotte public transportation system before this happened."
— Jenny Terre [15:33]
This Morning Wire episode shines a harsh light on slow-moving geopolitical peace talks, exposes enduring patterns of government waste hiding behind the banner of diversity, and paints a consequential portrait of ignored policy warnings at the US border—all backed by fresh reporting, firsthand interviews, and a brisk, conversational approach.