Ukraine Deal Dilemma & TN’s District Seven Duel | 11.24.25

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Episode: Ukraine Deal Dilemma & TN’s District Seven Duel
Date: November 24, 2025
Hosts: John Bickley, Georgia Howe

Episode Overview

This episode dives into three major stories: President Trump’s controversial Ukraine peace deal proposal, a high-stakes special election in Tennessee’s 7th congressional district, and the box office surprise of "Wicked 2" amid a tough year for Hollywood. The hosts analyze the details and implications of each topic with commentary and guest insights.

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Main Segment 1: Trump’s Ukraine Peace Deal Proposal

Key Segment: [03:33 – 07:55]

Discussion Points & Insights

• President Trump has introduced a 28-point peace plan to end the ongoing war in Ukraine, described as a potential breakthrough but heavily scrutinized for favoring Russia.
• Deal Details:
  • Ukraine would be required to:
    • Forfeit aspirations to NATO membership and embed this in its constitution.
    • Bar future NATO troop deployments and limit its military to 600,000 personnel.
    • Cede almost all land captured by Russia in eastern Ukraine (and some not yet seized).
    • Grant amnesty to all conflict participants.
    • Hold national elections within 100 days of signing (potentially opening the door for Zelensky’s removal).
    • Allow reintegration of Russia into the global economy via immediate sanctions relief.
• Concessions to Ukraine:
  • End of hostilities.
  • Path to EU membership.
  • $100 billion of frozen Russian assets to rebuild Ukraine.
  • Vague Western security guarantees should Russia act aggressively again.
• Ukrainian & European Reaction:
  • The deal has been met with outrage in Ukraine and skepticism in Europe.
  • Ukrainian leaders complain of not being consulted and accuse the US of handing over “Putin’s wish list.”
  • President Zelensky expressed concern about being forced to choose between “loss of dignity or the risk of losing a key partner, referring to the US” (Cabot Phillips, 06:16).
  • European leaders issued a joint statement: the deal “would leave Ukraine vulnerable to attack and requires additional work” (06:40).
• Diplomatic Developments:
  • Talks underway in Geneva to modify the proposal.
  • Trump has acknowledged the backlash and is open to “fine-tuning,” but noted Ukraine’s “zero gratitude for our efforts” (07:11).
• Memorable Moment & Confusion:
  • Over the weekend, a mix-up arose when some senators claimed the deal originated as a Russian proposal, only for Secretary Marco Rubio to clarify it was US-authored, but with Russian input (07:23–07:51).

Notable Quotes

• “This plan does seem to favor Russia, which from a geopolitical standpoint makes sense... they do have the upper hand militarily right now.”
  —Cabot Phillips, [03:55]
• “Now Ukraine may face a very difficult choice, either loss of dignity or the risk of losing a key partner.”
  —President Zelensky, quoted by Cabot Phillips, [06:16]
• “The Ukraine leadership has expressed zero gratitude for our efforts.”
  —Donald Trump, paraphrased by Cabot Phillips, [07:11]

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Main Segment 2: Tennessee’s 7th Congressional District Special Election

Key Segment: [09:05 – 14:08]

Discussion Points & Insights

• Special election on December 2nd could impact the balance of the House, as Republicans have a narrow majority.
  • Increased attention due to high Democratic spending, recent blue victories, and changing demographics in the Nashville area.
• Republican Candidate: Matt Van Epps
  • Former Commissioner, West Point grad, combat veteran, endorsed by Trump.
  • Campaign priorities: reduce cost of living and inflation, strong public safety support.
  • “What we’re hearing... is cost of living and working to decrease inflation.” (Van Epps, [10:41])
• Democratic Candidate: State Rep. Afton Bain
  • Portrayed as a progressive rising star, known for controversial social media and positions.
  • Recorded boasting about “bullying” ICE and state troopers out of immigration enforcement:
    “We’ve got our girl squad and we’re bullying the ICE vehicles and state troopers. So this is a win.” —Afton Bain, [11:18]
  • Previous criticism for saying she “hates Nashville” (“I hate the city... I hate country music,” —Afton Bain, [11:59]), which she has since attempted to walk back.
  • Strong stance in favor of abortion rights and protecting trans children.
  • Endorsed by DSA, campaign support from national Democratic figures.
• Contrast & Closing Remarks:
  • Van Epps emphasizes his Nashville roots and pro-police, pro-life stances.
    • “I love Nashville. I support Nashville and country music. I have worked in Nashville... met my wife in Nashville, started a family here.” —Matt Van Epps, [12:19]
  • Race rated as “likely Republican,” but polling reportedly closer than expected due to possible low turnout and intense spending.
    • “We feel really good about our ground game... Davidson County... is the one area that is more blue than the other 13 counties. But we’re still doing really well...” —Van Epps, [13:44]

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Main Segment 3: Box Office Surprise with Wicked 2

Key Segment: [14:37 – 18:58]

Discussion Points & Insights

• Hollywood’s dire box office year is upended by the hit opening of "Wicked for Good" (“Wicked 2”), the sequel to the previous musical blockbuster.
• Performance:
  • $228 million global opening; $151 million domestic
  • Biggest opening for a Broadway musical adaptation, biggest PG pre-sales
• Critical Reception:
  • Mixed reviews, with weaker positive ratings compared to the first film (59% vs 73% on Metacritic).
  • New songs lack the appeal of original numbers; performances mostly flat, though Jonathan Bailey praised.
• Cultural/Political Underpinnings:
  • Controversy avoided as stars refrained from overt politicking during promotion.
  • Reporter Megan Basham argues that “Wicked is a conservative-themed musical... skepticism of centralized power, distrust of government-aligned media... a fierce defense of objective as opposed to relative truth” ([17:51]).
• Memorable Quotes:
  • “The first film largely followed the path of the stage production... the most compelling parts of the musical were in the first film.”
    —Megan Basham, [15:53]
  • “Wicked is a conservative-themed musical... skepticism of globalist centralized power, distrust of government aligned media, and fierce defense of objective truth.”
    —Megan Basham, [17:51]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “This plan does seem to favor Russia, which from a geopolitical standpoint makes sense... they do have the upper hand militarily right now.”
  —Cabot Phillips, [03:55]

• “Now Ukraine may face a very difficult choice, either loss of dignity or the risk of losing a key partner.”
  —President Zelensky, via Cabot Phillips, [06:16]

• “This is great. We’ve got our girl squad and we’re bullying the ICE vehicles and state troopers. So this is a win.”
  —Afton Bain, [11:18]

• “I hate the city. I hate the Bachelorettes. I hate the pedal taverns. I hate country music. I hate all of the things that make Nashville.”
  —Afton Bain, [11:59]

• “Wicked is a conservative-themed musical... skepticism of globalist centralized power, distrust of government aligned media, and fierce defense of objective truth.”
  —Megan Basham, [17:51]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Ukraine peace deal analysis — [03:33 – 07:55]
• Tennessee District 7 special election — [09:05 – 14:08]
• Wicked 2 box office report — [14:37 – 18:58]

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Tone & Takeaways

The tone is brisk, analytical, and skeptical of mainstream narratives, particularly around the media and progressive politics—fully in line with Morning Wire’s conservative voice. The hosts and guests emphasize facts on the ground, offer critical scrutiny of high-profile progressive figures, and highlight conservative-themed cultural commentary.

Summary for Non-Listeners:
This episode provides in-depth, right-leaning analysis of President Trump's peace push in Ukraine (and its backlash abroad), a culture-war-infused House race in Tennessee featuring outsized Democratic spending and controversial personalities, and the unexpected box office success of a musical sequel with quietly conservative themes. Each story is examined with a critical eye—especially toward progressive narratives—making for a thorough, opinionated news digest.

Transcript

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[John Bickley]

President Trump is pushing full steam ahead on ending the war in Ukraine with a new deal, saying it would benefit both countries.

[Georgia Howe]

What exactly does the agreement say and why is Ukraine calling it a forced surrender?

[John Bickley]

I'm Daily Wire Executive Editor John Bickley with Georgia Howe. It's Monday, November 24th. This is Morning Wire.

[Georgia Howe]

The attempt to snag a House seat from Republicans heats up as Democrats spend big on a controversial candidate in Tennessee.

[Daily Wire Contributor]

Two of my district bills, one, I'm carrying the abortion bill, but also I ran on protecting trans children.

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[John Bickley]

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[Georgia Howe]

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[Georgia Howe]

President Trump is offering Russia and Ukraine a new peace deal and ramping up pressure on Putin and Zelensky to sign on.

[John Bickley]

Daily Wire senior editor Cabot Phillips is here to give us more details about what's in this deal. Hey, Cabot. So some potential breakthroughs looming in Ukraine here where the war approaches its fourth year. What is the latest here?

[Cabot Phillips]

Yeah, President Trump has relished his role as peacemaker since regaining the White House, brokering an end to a number of conflicts. But despite his best efforts, the war in Ukraine continues to rage. The White House is out now with a new 28 point plan that they view as a potential end to this war and they're confident it'll benefit both sides. Now, to be frank, this plan does seem to favor Russia, which from a geopolitical standpoint makes sense. Regardless of whether they're, you know, the bad guys and the aggressors. The reality is they do have the upper hand militarily right now. So the White House is urging folks right now, including the Ukrainians, to be realistic.

[John Bickley]

So tell us about what Ukraine would have to agree to here.

[Cabot Phillips]

Well, first, under this proposal, Ukraine would be forced to give up on its dream of NATO membership and quote enshrined in its constitution that will not join NATO. It will also bar NATO troops from being stationed there in the future and limit the size of Ukraine's military to 600,000 personnel. But perhaps most importantly for Zelensky, it would also give Russia nearly all of the land they've seized in eastern Ukraine and even some that they haven't. Now, all parties involved in the conflict would be granted amnesty under the deal and the US Would begin immediately lifting sanctions on Moscow, bringing them back into the international economy. And finally, it would also require Ukraine to hold nationwide elections within 100 days of signing. Remember, Zelensky has implemented martial law and suspended all elections during the war. So this could open the door for potentially his electoral removal, something that Putin has long hoped for.

[John Bickley]

So a lot to give up for Ukraine. What's in this deal that would bring them to the table?

[Cabot Phillips]

Well, the biggest reward would obviously be an end to the conflict, but there is also a promise to allow them to seek membership in the EU moving forward and also a plan for $100 billion in frozen Russian assets to be invested in a fund to rebuild Ukraine. But as far as security guarantees, that's one of Zelensky's main demands. Throughout the war, there's not been much beyond vague assurances that Europe and the US would, in their words, coordinate a military response and re implement sanctions if Russia were to invade again.

[John Bickley]

So the big question here, what sort of response has this proposal gotten from Ukraine and Europe?

[Cabot Phillips]

So far, as you can imagine, Ukraine is not happy. Political leaders expressed outrage that they were not consulted beforehand. They accused Trump of giving Putin his wish list. In a speech over the weekend. Zelensky, for his part, seemingly implied that the US had threatened to withdraw support unless they signed on to this deal, telling his people, quote, now Ukraine may face a very difficult choice, either loss of dignity or the risk of losing a key partner, referring to the US There. Over the weekend, he held calls with European allies, including Germany, France and the UK and they all responded and offered a unified front, telling the White House in a joint statement that this deal, quote, would leave Ukraine vulnerable to attack and, quote, requires additional work. That work is currently taking place in Geneva where Secretary of State Rubio and other diplomats are meeting with delegations from the EU and Ukraine. Now, Trump has expressed a willingness to fine tune the agreement. He's well aware that Europe and Ukraine are not happy with the deal. He stressed that this does not represent his, quote, final offer. But he did also take a shot at Zelenskyy over the weekend, writing on Truth Social, quote, the Ukraine leadership has expressed zero gratitude for our efforts.

[John Bickley]

Now, before we go, it's worth noting there was some major confusion regarding this deal over the weekend. Tell us about that.

[Cabot Phillips]

Yeah, a bizarre mix up, to say the least. On Saturday, a group of senators told the press that Secretary Marco Rubio called them directly and assured them this plan was not written by the White House, but was instead a Russian quote wish list that was presented to the U.S. however, hours later, Rubio issued a public statement denying that claim, saying that instead, quote, the peace proposal was authored by the US it is based on input from the Russian side and ongoing input from Ukraine.

[John Bickley]

Well, let's see if we make some progress in the coming days. Kevin, thanks so much for reporting.

[Cabot Phillips]

Absolutely.

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An important special election in Tennessee's 7th congressional district will be taking place on December 2nd to replace former Republican Congressman Mark Green. Democrats are pouring big money into the race, hoping to flip the seat.

[John Bickley]

Joining us now to discuss the race and the controversy surrounding it is Daily Wire political reporter Cameron Arkande. Cameron so we don't often cover single House races like this one, but this one has gained national attention. First, why are so many eyes focused on this race?

[Daily Wire Host]

Yeah, so as Georgia said, this is super critical seat in the House, especially given that the Republicans majority is so thin. This district is super important given that it's parts of the Nashville metropolitan area and a lot of people moved to this area after Covid as well. Now Democrats are Eager to see this as a pickup opportunity following election victories earlier this month in Virginia, New Jersey, Georgia. We're seeing even that. The Democrats House majority PAC poured a 1 million into ads in this race. Republicans are still expected to take it based on the Cook Political Report ranking. But there's a lot of money poured in here that has Republicans a little bit nervous at this stage.

[John Bickley]

Now, tell us about the two candidates facing off here. There's a lot of buzz, particularly about the Democrat here. What should we know about the two contenders?

[Daily Wire Host]

Yeah, so the first is the Republican, Matt Van Epps. He was the commissioner of Tennessee's General Services Department before coming to run for the seat. West Point grad, combat veteran. It is backed by President Trump. We asked him about his views on the president's agenda and how it aligns with his own goals for the state. Here's what he told us.

[Matt Van Epps]

Yeah, I think what we're hearing quite, quite a bit as we're out across the Tennessee 7 congressional district is cost of living and working to decrease inflation. And we're working really hard to connect with a lot of folks to address it.

[Daily Wire Host]

Now, most of the attention in the race has been focused on the Democrats. State Rep. Afton Bain. She's been touted by Democrats as kind of a rising star. Tennessee's aoc and also some of her social media posts have been gaining quite a bit of flack. For example, she's even filmed herself openly bragging about, quote, bullying law enforcement from carrying out its federal operations on immigration.

[Daily Wire Contributor]

This is great. We've got our girl squad and we're bullying the ICE vehicles and state troopers. So this is like, this is a win.

[Daily Wire Host]

Van Epps instead has been trying to tout his public safety background, including running an ad showing that clip. Here's what he told us.

[Matt Van Epps]

It is the exact opposite of what we stand for. And furthermore, she called for the abolishment of law enforcement to defund the police in Nashville. And I met with, with the Metro Nashville Police Department and fully stand with them.

[Daily Wire Host]

Bain's also come under fire for remarks she made in a 2020 clip where she goes on at length about how much she hates Nashville, a city that we just said she could represent.

[Daily Wire Contributor]

I hate the city. I hate the Bachelorettes. I hate the pedal taverns. I hate country music. I hate all of the things that make Nashville apparently, and it's city to the rest of the country, but I hate it.

[Daily Wire Host]

She has since denied that she hates the city and the industry that's put it on the map. Meanwhile, Epps has taken that opportunity to show off his deep ties to the community.

[Matt Van Epps]

I love Nashville. I support Nashville and country music. I have worked in Nashville, have served here, served in state government out of Nashville, met my wife in Nashville, started a family here.

[Daily Wire Host]

Now most of the focus has been on Bain's hard left views, especially the contrast between her stances and the deep red nature of where she's trying to represent along with her anti immigration enforcement position. She also said in recent years she would even be willing to get arrested for abortion advocacy. Now on the flip side, Van Epp said he supports Tennessee's laws on the issue and so that his views are most likely in line with his potential constituents.

[Matt Van Epps]

I think our stance in the pro life stance aligns more with Tennesseans with the Tennessee 7th congressional district. Our opponent is someone who had Kamala Harris in town, Jasmine Crockett, very far left. She's been endorsed by the Democrat Socialists of America.

[John Bickley]

A final question. You said at the top that the Cook Political Report says this race is rated likely Republican. How close does this appear to be?

[Daily Wire Host]

Well, the polling, which is always hard to weigh in races like this does show Van Epps with about an 8 point advantage, according to reporting from the Tennessee Lookout regarding Bain's internal polling. And it said that Democrats could be banking on low turnout of Republicans. So again, this is closer than Republicans would maybe hope right now. But Vanep's told Morning Wire he believes he's running what will prove to be a winning campaign.

[Matt Van Epps]

We feel really good about our ground game, the support, the things that we have going right now. You know, Davidson county, where Nashville is, is the one area that is more blue than the other 13 counties. But we're still doing really well in Davidson county and we're doing really well in the other 13 counties.

[John Bickley]

Well, definitely a lot on the line here in Nashville and December 2nd is coming quick. Cameron, thanks so much for reporting.

[Daily Wire Host]

Thank you.

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[John Bickley]

In one of the worst years in Hollywood history, one film waved a magic wand this weekend to bring audiences back to theaters. Wicked for good. The follow up to last year's smash hit musical is shattering records but is it any good?

[Georgia Howe]

Joining us now to discuss is Daily Wire culture reporter Megan Basham. So, Megan, we recently covered on this show how this has been one of the worst years in box office history, but Wicked for Good, the sequel, is kind of bucking that trend. How did it perform this weekend?

[Daily Wire Contributor]

Well, you know, I'd say the numbers are nothing short of dramatic. So according to early estimates, Wicked for Good opened globally in the neighborhood of $228 million. So we don't have the final numbers yet, but in the domestic market alone, it's projected to debut at around 151 million. So that makes it the biggest opening ever for a Broadway musical inspired feature. And then Even beyond that, Wicked2 had already pulled in the highest earnings this year, around 31 million in those domestic preview screenings. It also had the highest pre sales for a PG movie ever. So the upshot is that it's definitely on its way to being the highest grossing film this year.

[Georgia Howe]

Now, how are critics responding to it? I know the first one did pretty well.

[Daily Wire Contributor]

Yeah. So there the news is a little less positive. So on Metacritic, Wicked 2 has only a 59% positive rating. The first movie averaged 73%. And it's pretty much the same story over on Rotten Tomatoes there. The first movie was 88% positive. The new release, 70%. Now, I attended a press screening of Wicked for Good last week, and I'll say that the decrease in enthusiasm isn't that surprising to me. The first film largely followed the path of the stage production. Those powerhouse ballads like Defying Gravity and the comical ditties like Popular and Loathing were still very entertaining. But I think the problem is that the most compelling parts of the musical were in the first film. There's some new songs, but they don't boast that same sly humor or I would say, even moving poetry that you had with the original songs. And I would also say that the performances here are overall somewhat flat, though Jonathan Bailey as love interest Fierro was an exception.

[Daily Wire Host]

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[Daily Wire Contributor]

Well, maybe I can't. Was that so wrong? I mean, who could?

[Daily Wire Host]

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[Daily Wire Contributor]

So while a handful of the sequences are still impressive, they're visually very dynamic. I would say ultimately Wicked 2 doesn't offer the same entertainment value as the first entry. But when you're the only holiday blockbuster in town.

[Georgia Howe]

Right. Lack of competition no doubt helps. Now, I have seen some rumors that Universal has been pulling back on Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo interviews this time around, no doubt because of all the focus on their bizarre behavior in some of those previous interviews, as well as their politicking on the red carpet. Is there any truth to that?

[Daily Wire Contributor]

You know, I've not seen any evidence that Universal is deliberately keeping Wicked stars off the press tour, but that bizarre behavior is still definitely true. What they haven't done so much this time is offer political commentary, things like how the wizard of Oz is part of queer canon, quote unquote, and how Oz is a quote, gay place. And those are the kinds of things they said last time. And you know, personally I would say that's a good thing because I have always argued that Wicked is a conservative themed musical. Yes it is. The story is built around skepticism of a globalist centralized power, it's distrust of government aligned media and the false narratives that it pushes, and just really a fierce defense of objective as opposed to relative truth. So conservative. Again, really, it's a conservative movie. So while I haven't enjoyed the movies as much as the stage production, I'm still a pretty big fan of the storyline.

[Georgia Howe]

Yeah, I actually saw Kristin Chenoweth in the original in New York years ago and that will be very hard to top for me. Megan, thanks for reporting.

[Daily Wire Contributor]

Yeah, my pleasure.

[John Bickley]

Thanks for waking up with us. Before we go, a quick programming note. We will not have Evening Wire this week, but worry not. We will have a new show for you every morning this week and weekend, even on Thanksgiving. So keep tuning in for both regular and special editions of the show all week. We'll be back tomorrow morning with the news you need to know.

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