Ukraine’s New Deal & Christian Colleges Snub TPUSA? | 11.25.25

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Morning Wire Podcast Summary

Episode: Ukraine’s New Deal & Christian Colleges Snub TPUSA?
Date: November 25, 2025
Hosts: John Bickley & Georgia Howe
Produced by: The Daily Wire

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Overview

This episode of Morning Wire covers:

• The latest developments in U.S.-mediated peace talks between Russia and Ukraine.
• A growing controversy over Christian colleges rejecting Turning Point USA (TPUSA) chapters, even as conservative student activism surges.
• The Trump administration’s significant overhaul of federal homelessness policy.
• A brief update on Trump’s move to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Russia-Ukraine Peace Negotiations

[03:00–06:35]

• Developments in Peace Talks:
  White House presented a 28-point peace plan, demanding concessions from Ukraine for peace.
  Initial hardline stance ("Thanksgiving deadline" and threat to cut off aid) now softened—described as a "negotiating tactic."

  “That all or nothing language from the White House was nothing more than a sort of negotiating tactic from Trump. Call it an anchoring technique.” — Cabot Phillips [03:24]

• Positive Momentum:
  Recent Geneva talks involve U.S. diplomats (including Secretary of State Rubio), who's “all smiles” after what he called,

  “Probably the most productive day we have had on this issue, maybe in the entirety of our engagement.” — Rubio [04:13]

  Trump commented cautiously on Truth Social:

  “Is it really possible that big progress is being made in peace talks between Russia and Ukraine? Don’t believe it until you see it, but something good just may be happening.” — Trump [04:25]

• Key Shifts in Proposal:
  Now a 19-point plan, more favorable to Ukraine:

  • No cap on future Ukrainian military size.
  • No blanket amnesty for war crimes (Russians could still face charges).

• Remaining Hurdles:
  Major sticking point: Ukraine would have to cede territory in the east, recognizing it as Russian.

  “It is crucial to support the principles on which Europe stands—that borders cannot be changed by force.” — Zelensky [05:32]

  Zelensky also demands stronger security guarantees from the U.S. and Europe in case Russia tries to invade again.

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2. Muslim Brotherhood Terrorist Designation

[05:47–06:35]

• Policy Move:
  Following Texas, Trump administration signals intent to federally designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization.
  Would outlaw material support, freeze assets, and potentially pave the way for military action.

  “Final plans are being drawn.” — Trump [05:58]

  This is seen as consistent with broader Trump national security priorities.

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3. Christian Colleges Deny TPUSA Chapters

[07:48–12:27]

• Phenomenon:
  TPUSA saw 44,000 new chapter applications following Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
  However, about 20 Christian colleges have rejected or blocked chapters.

• Notable Rejections:

  • Point Loma Nazarene University (PLNU): Denied TPUSA requests three times.
  • Biola University: Rejected once in 2023; new request still stalled.
  • Others: Bob Jones University, Asbury, Oral Roberts, Loyola New Orleans, and more.
  • Concordia University (Wisconsin): Initially denied but relented after viral backlash.

• Official Reasons Given:

  • Concerns over TPUSA's “problematic rhetoric.”

  • Objections to the Professor Watch List, which reportedly documents professors accused of discriminating against conservatives.

  • Clubs must foster “constructive communication” (PLNU).

  • TPUSA’s “narrative and tactics” not aligning with values (Biola).

    “The reason they gave for denying the chapter is that Turning Point USA promotes problematic rhetoric, which of course is very vague.” — Megan Basham [01:58]

    “I think those are just nicely worded statements to cover the real reason. I think that they do not want for conservative students to find their voice.” — Lydia Harvey, PLNU alum [10:34]

• Perceived Double Standard:
  Left-leaning clubs (focused on gender equality, immigration, racial justice) have been approved, while TPUSA is blocked.

  “Biola approved the left-leaning club Students for Justice and Liberation... yet the verdict on TPUSA is still being drug out...” — Megan Basham [11:00]

• Concerns from Students/Alums:
  Administration moving left of conservative student and parent base.
  Conservative discomfort—e.g., schools removed Charlie Kirk memorials but allow BLM protests.

  “Parents are also pointing out that these same campuses that wouldn’t allow a Charlie Kirk memorial will allow BLM protests.” — Megan Basham [11:52]

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4. Trump Administration Changes Federal Homelessness Policy

[12:59–17:02]

• Background:
  Federal government annually issues $3.5B in grants (Continuum of Care, CoC) for homeless housing.

• Shift in Policy:
  Old Policy: “Housing First” — Give subsidized housing to homeless people with no conditions (no requirements to seek treatment, etc.).

  “For a little over a decade... these annual funding announcements said the federal money would be given almost exclusively to groups that practice housing first.” — Judge Glock [14:12]

  New Approach:

  • Ends housing-first mandate.

  • Requires nonprofits to provide or facilitate treatment (e.g., addiction, mental health).

  • More funding directed to transitional (time-limited) housing, encouraging movement toward self-sufficiency.

    “The biggest change is there's no more Housing First mandate. Instead... nonprofits must provide treatment for underlying issues instead of just focusing on housing.” — Judge Glock [14:45]

• Criticism/Opposition:
  Critics say the changes could force 200,000 people out of housing.

  "That concern is a little overblown, to say the least." — Judge Glock [15:28]

  In reality, Judge Glock argues, funding will shift but not disappear; groups must simply demonstrate program effectiveness.

• Debate Over Focus:
  Critics say many homeless clients are “disabled” and can't be expected to achieve self-sufficiency.
  Glock counters that the legal definition of disabled includes addiction/alcoholism, and recipients “are certainly capable of undergoing treatment and ideally at some point returning to work.”

  “To many people, including myself, people struggling with addiction are certainly capable of undergoing treatment and ideally at some point returning to work.” — Judge Glock [16:53]

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• [04:13] Rubio:
  “It is probably the most productive day we have had on this issue, maybe in the entirety of our engagement…”

• [05:32] Zelensky:
  “It is crucial to support the principles on which Europe stands—that borders cannot be changed by force.”

• [10:34] Lydia Harvey (PLNU alum):
  “I think those are just nicely worded statements to cover the real reason. I think that they do not want for conservative students to find their voice.”

• [11:25] Estella Becerra (Biola Sr.):
  “The fact that he died through political violence was really heartbreaking and it was heartbreaking for my generation and for Biola not to see that and be so disconnected from the student body.”

• [14:12] Judge Glock (on old homeless funding):
  “For a little over a decade... these annual funding announcements said the federal money would be given almost exclusively to groups that practice housing first.”

• [16:53] Judge Glock (on capacity for treatment/self-sufficiency):
  “To many people, including myself, people struggling with addiction are certainly capable of undergoing treatment and ideally at some point returning to work.”

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment | Start | End | |--------------------------------------------------------|-----------|-----------| | Ukraine Peace Deal & Negotiations | 03:00 | 06:35 | | Muslim Brotherhood Terrorist Designation Update | 05:47 | 06:35 | | TPUSA Rejected by Christian Colleges | 07:48 | 12:27 | | Trump Admin Homelessness Policy Overhaul | 12:59 | 17:02 |

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Tone & Language

• The tone is factual, urgent, and slightly combative—consistent with Morning Wire’s conservative-leaning editorial style.
• Balanced inclusion of sourced statements from administration officials, skeptical students, and interview guests.
• Significant skepticism toward left-leaning policies and a focus on transparency and “double standards” in higher education and policy.

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Takeaways

• Ukraine conflict: Progress in talks but key disagreements remain—especially over territorial concessions.
• Christian colleges: The rejection of TPUSA has ignited debate about free expression, campus politics, and ideological drift within Christian higher ed.
• Homeless policy: The administration is moving away from “housing first,” stirring debate over what best reduces homelessness and what outcomes should be prioritized.
• National security: Pending designation of the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist group could have wide-reaching consequences.

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This episode is a snapshot of major U.S. and international policy developments, campus culture war flashpoints, and ongoing debates about the direction of conservative activism and governance.

Transcript

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Russia and Ukraine appear to be closing in on a deal, but one major concept has Zelensky hesitant.

[B]

Like any final agreement, they'll have to be agreed upon by the presidents. And there are a couple issues that we need to continue to work on.

[C]

I'm Georgia Howe with Daily Wire Executive Editor John Bickley. It's Tuesday, November 25th, and this is Morning Wire.

[D]

Turning Point USA sees a surge of new chapter requests, but also faces some unexpected headwinds.

[F]

The reason they gave for denying the chapter is that Turning Point USA promotes problematic rhetoric, which of course is very vague.

[C]

And the Trump administration makes a huge change in how it's handling homelessness, sparking praise and consternation.

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[D]

Daily Wire senior editor Cabot Phillips is here with the latest at Cabot. So a lot of moving parts as the White House works to make a deal finally in Ukraine. Where do things stand now?

[G]

So just to recap, this week the White House presented both sides with a 28 point peace plan that, as we mentioned yesterday, does include significant concessions from Ukraine in exchange for peace. Initially, it appeared that plan was sort of a final offer. Trump went as far as giving a Thanksgiving deadline. And then there were even reports the Trump administration would cut off all military and financial aid if Ukraine turned it down. But now it appears that all or nothing language from the White House was nothing more than a sort of negotiating tactic from Trump. Call it an anchoring technique. After strong pushback from Ukraine and the eu, the White House now says the plan is meant as a starting point. As Secretary of State Rubio put it, quote, just because it's printed on a piece of paper doesn't indicate finality. You get input and you make adjustments. And that strategy seems to have gotten things moving as Ukrainian diplomats have shown a new sense of urgency and willingness to make some compromises. Leaders from Ukraine and across Europe met over the last 48 hours in Geneva with American diplomats, including Rubio, and he came out of those talks with a smile.

[B]

It is probably the most productive day we have had on this issue, maybe in the entirety of our engagement, but certainly in a very long time.

[G]

For his part, the president displayed some cautious optimism. Writing on Truth Social Monday, quote, is it really possible that big progress is being made in peace talks between Russia and Ukraine? Don't believe it until you see it, but something good just may be happening. And then hours after that post, a number of reports claimed that the US And Ukraine had in fact agreed to the outlines of a new 19 point peace plan instead of 28. This version includes more favorable terms for Zelensky. For example, it removes limits on the Ukrainian military in the future. The original version said their military personnel would be capped at 600,000. It also reportedly stripped out the language that offered blanket amnesty for acts committed during the war. That means Russian forces could still theoretically be charged with war crimes. But it is worth noting this new proposal still appears to be a draft and it does not address a number of the topics where Ukraine and Russia have the most disagreements.

[D]

All right, so like you said, a lot of optimism here. What are the biggest hurdles at this point?

[G]

Well, the main issue for Zelensky is that the current plan would require Ukraine to surrender large portions of land in the east that would then be recognized as Russian territory. That is a red line for Ukraine. And Zelensky pushed back publicly on that demand Monday, saying, quote, it is crucial to support the principles on which Europe stands that borders cannot be changed by force. Zelensky also wants to see more concrete security guarantees from the US that would put on paper assurances of European and US Military support if Russia were to relaunch their invasion.

[D]

Right now. Switching gears for one final foreign policy note before we go, this one involving the Muslim Brotherhood. What's the latest there?

[G]

Yeah, we reported last week how the state of Texas designated the Muslim Brotherhood as a foreign terrorist organization and transnational criminal organization. And now Donald Trump is following suit. After months of hinting that he would do so. He told Just the News this week that, quote, final plans are being drawn. Remember, a terror designation from the federal government would make it illegal for Americans to offer material support to the group. It could also lead to the freezing of the group's assets and open the door for potential military action against them. The group has also grown in prominence in the west in recent years, which obviously is concerning for the Trump administration.

[D]

Well, a move that falls in line with the administration's national security priorities, for sure. Cabot, thanks so much for reporting.

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TPUSA chapters are exploding across the higher ed landscape in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination with 44,000 new applications on college campuses. But a surprising number of Christian colleges and universities have rejected the organization, telling students they aren't allowed to start new clubs.

[D]

Joining us to explain what's going on is Daily Wire culture reporter Megan Basham. Hey, Megan. So I think most people would consider tpusa, which is pro life, pro traditional marriage, heavily staffed by Christians, a sort of natural fit for Christian colleges, which schools are rejecting them.

[F]

Yeah, John, you know, it's actually a surprisingly long list. So I started looking into this story after the news broke that Point Loma Nazarene in California had rejected students request for a TPUSA chapter for the third time. And then I also spoke to students at Biola, which is one of the largest evangelical universities in the country, and they told me their first request for a chapter was denied in 2023. So in September after Charlie's assassination, they tried again and they said they still aren't getting an answer. And then another Christian school, Concordia University in Wisconsin, initially rejected tpusa, but then a student posted about it, it went viral and they ultimately reversed course. All told, about 20 different Christian colleges and universities have said that TPUSA is not welcome on their campuses. And that includes some pretty big well known schools like Bob Jones University, Asbury, Oral Roberts and Loyola New Orleans.

[D]

What reason are they giving for rejecting the clubs?

[F]

Yeah, that varies by school. And the students and alum who want to see new TPUSA chapters at their schools don't always buy these reasons that they're being given. So Point Loma said its board of directors rejected TPUSA largely because of this professor watch list that exposes and documents professors who discriminate against conservative students. Now, even though Point Loma students agreed not to use or contribute to that list, the board still felt TPUSA doesn't represent the kind of quote, unquote, constructive communication that they require from their official clubs. However, the school has approved left leaning clubs like one called Break that focuses on issues like gender equality and gender justice. Sounds like a little bit of a feminist club. And the center for justice and Reconciliation, which focuses on immigration and racial justice. Also probably noteworthy that the administration removed a Charlie Kirk Memorial that had been put up on campus after his death. Now, Lydia Harvey is a Point Loma alum who met with the school's president about tpusa. She actually believes that its rejection is really just overall part of the leftward drift the school is experiencing.

[E]

I think those are just nicely worded statements to cover the real reason. I think that they do not want for conservative students to find their voice.

[F]

And then similar situation at Biola. Biola approved the left leaning club Students for Justice and Liberation, which says on its website that it stands for progressive values the same semester that they applied. Yet the verdict on TPUSA is still being drug out now in its first rejection. That decision once again went all the way to the board of directors and they said at that time that they take issue with TPUSA's quote unquote narrative and tactics. Biola Sr. Estella Becerra, who knew Charlie Kirk and has been spearheading this effort, told me she's worried that Biola is now just buying time before the board rejects her application again.

[E]

The fact that he died through political violence was really heartbreaking and it was heartbreaking for my generation and for Biola not to see that and be so disconnected from the student body.

[C]

It's really frustrating.

[F]

Biola's administration, however, told me that they are following the standard approval process and timeline.

[D]

It sounds like students, parents, others writing the checks for these schools are often more conservative than the faculty in administrations. Is that fair to say?

[F]

Yeah, I would say that it is. Because as I'm talking to these parents, students about tpusa, they're pointing out a lot of other issues that they're starting to notice because of this. Things like faculty members who in spite of statements of faith that should actually bar this, they're openly LGBTQ affirming. Parents are also pointing out that these same campuses that wouldn't allow a Charlie Kirk memorial will allow BLM protests. So these kind of showdowns over tposa I think are revealing to a lot of people just how far apart they are.

[D]

I certainly got our attention here. Megan, thanks so much for reporting.

[F]

Yep, my pleasure.

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The Trump administration has recently announced major changes to how the federal government funds housing for the homeless. The administration says the changes will encourage more self sufficiency and reduce drug abuse, while opponents say it could lead to almost 200,000 people being kicked out of their homes.

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Here to talk with us about the administration's announcement is Judge Glock, director of research at the Manhattan Institute. Judge, thanks so much for coming on.

[B]

Yeah, no problem. Always a pleasure.

[C]

So all of this revolves around federal funding for homelessness. But first, how does the federal government actually distribute money for this issue?

[B]

So every year, the feds announce how nonprofits and other groups can apply for what are known as Continuum of care grants, or CoC grants. These grants total about three and a half billion dollars a year, and they mainly go to nonprofits that provide housing. And I should just say that homeless nonprofits read this yearly announcement like it's the Talmud or the Bible or something, because it says what they have to do to compete for the federal money, what sort of programs they can fund, and what sort of things are forbidden.

[C]

Got it. Now, the administration's announcement this year said that the federal government would no longer support what it calls the failed Housing first ideology. Can you first explain a little bit about what housing first means?

[B]

The Housing first idea is the only way to, quote, unquote, solve homelessness is to give the homeless subsidized and permanent housing without any conditions before entering the housing or strings attached afterwards. The basic idea is that you provide both housing and services, but it's all voluntary. And for a little over a decade, including, I might add, through the first Trump administration, these annual funding announcements said the federal money would be given almost exclusively to groups that practice housing first.

[C]

Right. So that made it a nationwide policy. What does this announcement actually change?

[B]

Well, the biggest change is there's no more Housing first mandate. Instead, the administration says nonprofits must provide treatment for underlying issues instead of just focusing on housing. So the Housing first program was supposed to provide treatment, but it said people just kind of had to come to it on their own. The problem was it's often impossible, people in the midst of, say, a heroin addiction or a schizophrenic episode to really pursue treatment. So this new policy will mandate some treatment services for those in housing units and require more housing to be transitional, meaning limited time until people can get back on their feet.

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Now, what do you make of the claims that these changes could kick about 200,000 people out of their homes? Is there any merit to that claim?

[B]

That concern is a little overblown, to say the least. The whole idea of the CoC grant is it's supposed to be a competition where the best programs and nonprofits won more funding and the ones that didn't work lost it. But in the past, the government has said explicitly that about 90% of the funding she rewarded to the same groups every single year. This new announcement brought that down to less than a third of funding, meaning more nonprofits will have to show they work and compete for that money. Advocates say that without that guaranteed renewal, all of those previous housing programs that were going to get the money will lose it and tens of thousands of people could be thrown on the streets. But in reality, that money will still go somewhere, either to those same nonprofits that will now have to adopt a different model or to these new transitional housing units. So there might be some changes, but about the same amount of total housing for the homeless will be available now.

[C]

The other complaint from advocates is that the program is only for the homeless and disabled, so it doesn't make sense to focus on things like treatment leading to work or self sufficiency. Is that a valid point?

[B]

It's true that the usual permanent supportive housing program in the continuum of care is for what the law terms the disabled. But it's very important to note that the definition of disability in the law includes addiction to drugs or alcohol. So to many people, including myself, people struggling with addiction are certainly capable of undergoing treatment and ideally at some point returning to work. And that's what the announcement is trying to encourage.

[C]

Well, clearly the Trump administration agrees with you. Judge, thanks so much for coming on the show.

[B]

It's always a pleasure.

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