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Justin and Nicole discuss Oppenheimer and the issues around nuclear proliferation. We disagree on how much we liked the movie. We enjoyed the parts about the bomb and the sound design but disagreed on the later segments featuring Robert Downey Jr. We talk about the benefits and risks of nuclear proliferation, and Japan's special status as the only country to experience a nuclear bomb.

Justin recommends Hardcore History: Supernova in the East and Peaky Blinders. Nicole recommends Copenhagen.

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* Note Lise Meitner's name was incorrectly pronounced in the episode, but her story is very important to keep in mind about how women's contributions to science are erased.

Oppenheimer and Mutually Assured Destruction