
Loading summary
A
When it comes to gifting, everyone on your list deserves something special. Luckily, Marshall's buyers travel far and wide, hustling for great deals and amazing gifts so you don't have to. That means your mom gets that cashmere sweater, your best friend, that Italian leather bag, your co workers unwrap their favorite beauty brands, and your nephews the coolest new toys. Go ahead. A price is this good, you can grab something for yourself too. Marshalls, we get the deals, you gift the good stuff. Shop now@marshalls.com or find a store near you.
B
This episode is brought to you by Jack Daniels. Jack Daniels and music are made for each other. They share a rhythm in the craft of making something timeless while being a part of legendary nights. From backyard jams to sold out arenas, there's a song in every toast. Please drink responsibly. Responsibility.org Jack Daniels and Old no. 7 are registered trademarks. Tennessee Whiskey, 40% alcohol by volume. Jack Daniel Distillery, Lynchburg, Tennessee.
A
Coca Cola for the big, for the small, the short and the tall. Peacemakers, risk takers for the optimists, pessimists for long distance love. For introverts and extroverts, the thinkers and the doers. For old friends and new Coca Cola for everyone. Pick up some Coca Cola at a store near you.
C
Welcome to a special breaking news edition of mugglecast. Why are you laughing?
D
I shouldn't laugh. This is business.
C
This is very serious. We're in the Situation Room right now.
D
Our phones went off like crazy last night, but we didn't see the alerts till this morning.
C
Yes, yes, let's go with that. Many people were texting me about this. Netflix is going to buy Warner brothers in an $83 billion deal. And the reason we wanted to do a breaking news edition of mugglecast is because Warner Brothers, of course, owns Harry Potter. So what does this mean for Harry Potter, the movies, the upcoming TV show, and any other projects?
D
No, this is exciting, I think, in a lot of ways because we've talked so many times on the podcast about what the future of Harry Potter looks like. And obviously we have the TV show that's not that far off. But I think this opens the door for a lot more possibilities in terms of spinoffs and seeing some other stories in the Wizarding World universe that maybe just weren't possible based on the current relationship that exists with Warner Brothers.
C
Yeah, the current relationship and the current creative drive at the company, I guess I would say as well. I mean, Netflix is going to want to make their money back on what was it again? Their $83 billion investment. So they're going to want to greenlight some major projects that are going to make them some money, and you have to think Harry Potter will be a top priority for them. Now, first, we should caution people, this deal, if you read the headlines, it's kind of talking like it's done. Like you're going to open up Netflix tomorrow, and suddenly there's going to be all the Harry Potter movies and the TV show. Like, no. At best, this is going to close in late 2026, and it still has to go through regulatory approval. That means federal regulators in America and also over in Europe, possibly elsewhere, are going to have to approve this deal. And, and there are politics at play, which we probably won't get into. But all this to say this isn't necessarily a done deal, but HBO and Netflix have agreed to try and make it happen.
D
Yeah. And there, there's a lot of hurdles that need to be overcome before we get to the finish line. But just going back to earlier when I said it's, it's exciting, I think it also makes the Harry Potter films, the originals, much more accessible than. Than they are currently. I'm always trying to find where they are. Usually I happen across some station that is just running a marathon. But, you know, when you think about just wanting easy access to Sorcerer's Stone through Deathly Hallows Part 2, I think if you know that you can just go on to Netflix and easily find it, it's. It's going to make these movies available to a much larger audience. Yeah. Than is currently available.
C
Yeah. You will think, you would think Netflix will prominently feature the Harry Potter movies, for starters. And then, of course, this probably won't impact the TV show. You have to think Netflix is going to want to see the Harry Potter TV series all the way through. Harry Potter is absolutely massive. It is here to stay for the rest of our lives. It's going to draw. The show is going to draw in new viewers, new readers, which in turn will just benefit Netflix. So I don't think this is going to have necessarily any negative impact on the Harry Potter TV series. But I will say not everybody is thrilled with this deal, because Netflix has for a while been kind of killing the moviegoing industry. Instead of going out to see a movie, you watch it at home. You stream all your stuff at home. Now, Netflix has pledged that they will continue to offer theatrical windows for Warner Brothers movies, but that's just a pinky promise. They. They can do whatever they want once this deal is closed.
D
Right. So that's what they're saying now.
C
Right. Actually, on Thursday, there was a group of anonymous feature film producers who sent a letter to Congress with grave concerns. That was their words about Netflix buying Warner Brothers. Net. Netflix views any time spent watching a movie in a theater as time not spent on their platform. It's true. They have no incentive, they said, to support theatrical exhibition and they have every incentive to kill it. And that's one thing regulators here in America and elsewhere are going to be considering.
D
Yeah. Oh, they have to think about their bottom line at the end of the day. And like you said earlier, they need to find a way to make back their 80 plus billion dollar investment that they're making here. But I did want to pull on the thread that you were talking about with the Harry Potter TV show because we don't know necessarily what this can mean. There could be promises right now. Sure. To keep everything running smoothly. And we know that at least it seems like Sorcerer's Stone and Chamber of Secrets are going to be filmed pretty close to each other. But maybe Netflix won't want a reboot of the Harry Potter TV show or the series. Excuse me, I just, is that, is that a possibility?
C
I maybe, call me naive, but the Harry Potter franchise is just so big and we need new Harry Potter content, be it movies, TV shows, whatever else. I think one reason I, you know, one of many reasons they were interested in buying Warner and HBO is that they do get Harry Potter. That's what, that's one of the biggest brands of all time right now. So I mean, and this is also the company who adapted A Series of Unfortunate Events, has adapted many other books as well. I see no reason why the Harry Potter TV show won't continue as planned, because a Harry Potter TV show is just going to earn Netflix more subscribers if that is the place to watch it under one of their companies.
D
That is a really good point. But how about though, them infusing some more of their creativity into the Harry Potter TV show and essentially taking over the production process from whomever is kind of leading the charge right now? That's something that could certainly happen.
C
Yeah. Well, looking at Stranger Things, it's taken them a long time to complete that series. Those kids are no longer kids in that television show. I guess one concern could be, be, I don't know, they're going to take their sweet time finishing the Harry Potter series like they do with Stranger Things. You know, Netflix is also not afraid to just cancel shows left and right, which has been A major frustration for people who get invested in some of their TV shows. So, yeah, things. Things very well could change. I think one tantalizing idea is that again, Netflix is going to want to make money on their. But get back their $84 billion investment. This actually could increase the chance that we're going to get more Harry Potter spin offs in some way. Maybe they'll want to take another crack at Fantastic Beasts again. I feel like that's back on the table too. Really? Maybe they got the rights to it. If they don't have to put it in theaters, why not just let people stream it?
D
It's possible. Yeah. I do like what you're saying, because for so long, fans of Harry Potter have been wanting more and the. We tried it with Fantastic Beasts, it didn't work. The first movie was great. I don't think anybody really had much bad to say about the original film. But then the story after that just really fell flat and, you know, it became a story about Dumbledore and Grindelwald as opposed to a story about Newt and, you know, the other three main characters. So I am curious, though, what kind of spinoffs can we expect? Is this where we finally are able to get a marauder's backstory, which people have been clamoring for since Prisoner of Azkaban, the book was released? Is it an opportunity maybe to do something on the founders of the school? I mean, there's so many different directions that you could go in here. And I. I agree with what you were saying earlier. Netflix definitely has more of a creative lens that they look at things through.
C
Yeah.
D
And so it'll be interesting to see how they approach the expansion of the wizarding world. Right.
C
And I think they're going to have to work very closely with J.K. rowling because remember when a year or two ago, I believe it was the Wall Street Journal, they did a deep dive on the relationship between Warner and. And J.K. rowling. And I think one thing that they had reported, Slash reminded us of is that Warner Brothers can only adapt the existing published works. The core Harry Potter books, Fantastic Beasts, Quidditch through the Ages, Tales of Beetle, the Bard, that stuff. They can't wake up one morning and be like, oh, you know what? We just feel like doing a Marauders series. We know the fans want it. I think they have to get permission from Team J.K. rowling, everyone surrounding her, and she needs to sign off on it. And the other delicate balance that Warner and now potentially Netflix has to strike is they need to get her approval, her blessing on things because they want, you know, say what you will about her politics and all the stuff she's saying online. They need to stay in her good graces. They need her on their side. So it's going to be a delicate balance for them to walk. And I'm, I'm hopeful that they will be able to green light some spin offs. Like you said, the Marauders and I don't know, a Quidditch series could be pretty cool. There's so many directions you could take. One thing we've talked about a lot with this new TV series that HBO is currently working on is that it could open up some opportunities to pilot some other shows. What's called a backdoor pilot. So maybe in one episode we get a Marauders backstory and then that could serve as a backdoor pilot to a whole Marauders series again. That would be awesome. With J.K. rowling's sign off. Yeah.
My name is Percy Jackson. Getting in trouble is like breathing for me.
B
The hit series returns to Disney and Hulu. The danger the camp is under is.
D
Greater than you can possibly imagine.
C
For the key to our survival, three of you must quest to the Sea of Monsters. Let's go do the impossible.
B
Percy Percy Jackson and the Olympians new Season 2 episode premiere December 10th on Disney and Hulu.
D
Learn more at disneyplus.com whatson Every Holiday.
A
Shopper's got a list, but Ross shoppers? You've got a mission like a gift run that turns into a disco snow globe, throw pillows and PJs for the whole family, dog included. At Ross, Holiday magic isn't about spending more, it's about giving more for less. Ross, work your magic.
D
Just a quick overview on the breakdown of the relationship because I was trying to get my head around this earlier. So J.K. rowling owns the original book, copyrights the characters and the overarching wizarding world ip. So it gives her ultimate say on major story elements and new adaptations. Warner Brothers holds licenses for film and TV productions like the movies in the upcoming TV show theme parks and merchandise, but these are subject to Rowling's approval. So in terms of spinoffs, there's not really the chance that a spinoff can happen without Rowling, because she owns the characters and the world. Okay, so it'll be interesting to see. Is that going to now extend to Netflix? I would, I would think I don't see it changing. And, and so to your point that we Netflix is going to have to.
C
Work with rolling Netflix better send Her a free Netflix account for life.
D
Get her the Stranger Things finale right now.
C
Right.
D
Don't wait till Christmas.
C
Send her to the premiere for Stranger Things. She'll be like, I'll let you do whatever you want, but give me those damn Stranger Things screeners so I can share them with my kids and be the cool mom. No, but yeah. One other thing that I read this morning is that Netflix will also be acquiring Warner's video game division, which of course is working on the Hogwarts legacy video game. There's been strong rumors about a sequel or director's cut as well. Netflix, in case you haven't noticed, by going to the Netflix app, they've been trying to get into gaming. So I feel like they see this as a big opportunity as well right now. And again, Harry Potter, it's such a big franchise. This is one of the reasons they bought it. They, they bought it for Harry Potter, Game of Thrones.
All the other timeless classics that Warner Brothers owns the right to. So they will want to expand these franchises however they can. They don't want to buy it just for having the movies that, you know, that already exist in HBO's library. They have huge plans.
D
Yeah. And, and it gives them a solid footing for the future. Right. With you're mentioning Stranger Things wrapping up now, you look ahead now and Netflix, presumably, if this all goes through, has at least seven years of Harry Potter.
C
Yeah, they've called it a ten year project.
D
Oh, that's right. Yeah. So ten years of Harry Potter and you know, Game of Thrones, you know, House of the Dragon and the, the Dunkin Egg spin off that, that's, you know, premiering in January. So Netflix just set itself up extremely well for the future with, you know, franchises that already have a built in fan base. Right, right.
C
Yeah. So I'm just gonna say that I think this is good news for Harry Potter fans for the Harry Potter franchise. If it does go through, Warner does. Even if this deal doesn't go through, Warner does want to sell their film and television division. They've been talking with numerous companies and Netflix won out. So if this one doesn't go through, Harry Potter might go elsewhere. But this is a massive shift in the entertainment landscape, no matter how you slice it. And Netflix, which started as that humble DVD company, we, you know, we request our Mad Men DVDs and they come in the mail and we send them back. Now they're the big dog in Hollywood. You never would have thought Netflix would buy Warner. You would think it would be the other way around, maybe. Yeah, yeah.
D
It's. It's wild. It's. It's a totally different landscape moving forward. It's. It's exciting as, as, you know, tied back to the beginning. But it, you know, this, this opens a lot of doors, particularly for the Harry Potter franchise that I think maybe they weren't necessarily closed, but they were. They've been shut for a while. And, you know, anytime that you dip your toe into something new, there's always the chance of new opportunity. So I think that this, you know, this is potentially a really good thing for the franchise.
C
I agree. I'm optimistic about it. It feels very.
Modern day for Harry Potter to be owned by a stream company, you know, first and foremost. So that's kind of cool. It almost ushers Harry Potter into the new era. You look at what Disney has tried to do with Star wars, it hasn't gone particularly well. But I think Max was our hbo. Sorry, hbo. Max was already heading this way. You would think that ultimately they want to get the Harry Potter franchise to a place where they do have multiple TV shows running and maybe multiple movie series running as well. We know if you dive into these books, there's opportunities. They just have to tread cautiously, create some really great stuff. Especially after the mess. That was fantastic piece.
D
Well, it was a mess for a number of reasons, not just what we saw on the screen. There was a lot of things happening off screen as well that didn't work in its favor. And then the pandemic. So I think they should take a crack at. At something completely fresh, and I'm confident that they will, you know, whether it'll be successful or not is. Is a different story, but I think that the time is ripe for it. And I know we're in the process of rebooting the original material, but I think there's such a huge appetite for spinoffs and expanding the world, and that just hasn't. It's amazing that, you know, we're sitting here, what. When did Deathly Hallows came out? In 2007.
C
The book.
D
Yeah, the book. So we're almost 20 years after the. The last book came out and the world hasn't really expanded all that much.
C
Mm, no.
D
Which in this day and age, you need it in order to, you know, presumably you want to continue to earn money on it. Like you need that.
C
Yeah, it's. It's funny because Netflix has so much garbage on their platform, but they also have a lot of really good stuff. We keep bringing up stranger things, like if it's something that they really care about. They care about it and they put the work in. I think Harry Potter is going to be something they genuinely care about because that could pay dividends for them for a very long time.
D
And, and obviously they've shown with Stranger Things and, and with other shows that they're very good at being able to manage projects that have child actors in them. You know, of course they're going to grow up who knows how long, how old, you know, Dominic McLaughlin is going to be by the time Sorcerer's Stone comes out. But, you know, like, I think there's something to be said for that too.
C
Yeah. One thing that won't be good news, this, you know, if when this closes in 2026 and then even after the deal closes, we're going to probably see a very slow transition in which HBO and Netflix merge in terms of their content libraries. It'll probably still be separate apps for a while. Look at how Disney and Hulu slowly merged as Disney acquired more of Hulu. But something that's going to happen. I guess this was inevitable anyway. But expect prices to go up for your membership to Netflix. Then again, I mean, HBO Max does have a really remarkable library. So with those two merging, that is going to be the streaming app to get just in terms of the collection of material. I mean, it's incredible.
D
Yeah. If you're Netflix, you probably are smart to slowly start increasing. I know they have. But, you know, between now and whenever this merger actually goes through, so that it's not like a gut punch to subscribers once the library does in fact become available. Right. Definitely. I'm sure they're thinking about all those things.
C
Any closing thoughts before we wrap this up?
D
I mean, I would just reiterate what we were talking about, that it's an exciting opportunity for the Harry Potter franchise to have Netflix on board. And there's a ton of opportunity here to expand the wizarding world into areas that we have long wanted. And.
I think if anybody was to take over the reins, that. That Netflix is the right company to do it.
C
Yeah, definitely. So, yeah, I think, in short, this is good news for Harry Potter fans. It presents a lot of exciting opportunities and we'll be covering whatever happens next. If you're new to Mugglecast, we are currently covering the TV show. And in fact, you can expect more Harry Potter TV show coverage in 2026. Stay tuned for some announcements there. But yeah, follow Bucklecast in your favorite podcast app or YouTube to stay on top of the latest developments concerning the TV show, the books, the movies, all that. We're covering it all every week including through our chapter by chapter segment which is running weekly right now. All right.
D
Well this was fun.
C
Yes, it was.
D
No more mergers before the year is out.
C
Yes. Listeners, let us know what you think in the comments if this is good news or bad news, what opportunities you might think it will present for the Harry Potter world. And we'll see you next week. Bye bye.
B
The holidays mean more travel, more shopping, more time online and more personal info in more places that could expose you more to identity theft. But LifeLock monitors millions of data points per second. If your identity is stolen, our US Based restoration specialists will find fix it guaranteed or your money back. Don't face drained accounts, fraudulent loans or financial losses alone. Get more holiday fun and less holiday worry with LifeLock. Save up to 40% your first year. Visit LifeLock.com podcast terms apply.
Date: December 5, 2025
Host(s): C, D (main conversation)
Theme: Breaking down the massive entertainment news that Netflix is acquiring Warner Brothers (and by extension, the Harry Potter franchise and HBO) – what this means for fans, the movies, the upcoming TV show, and the future of the Wizarding World.
This special breaking news episode dives deep into Netflix's $83 billion purchase of Warner Brothers and HBO, examining the impact on the Harry Potter franchise. The hosts dissect what this could mean for the books, films, forthcoming TV series, potential spin-offs, and the wider Wizarding World – with a focus on creative opportunities, industry concerns, and the practicalities of the deal.
“Netflix is going to want to make their money back on…their $83 billion investment. So they’re going to want to greenlight some major projects…Harry Potter will be a top priority for them.”
— C (02:43)
“I’m always trying to find where they are. Usually I happen across some station that is just running a marathon…if you know you can just go on Netflix…It’s going to make these movies available to a much larger audience.”
— D (03:47)
Likelihood for Continuity:
Concerns Around Netflix’s Approach:
“Is this where we finally are able to get a Marauder’s backstory, which people have been clamoring for since Prisoner of Azkaban…the book was released?”
— D (09:04)
“They need her approval…Say what you will about her politics…They need to stay in her good graces. They need her on their side.”
— C (11:21)
“Netflix views any time spent watching a movie in a theater as time not spent on their platform…They have every incentive to kill it.”
— C (05:38)
Gaming Division Acquisition:
Cross-media Expansion:
Comparison to Disney/Star Wars:
Duration of Franchise Plans:
“Netflix just set itself up extremely well for the future with…franchises that already have a built-in fan base.”
— D (15:22)
“It feels very…modern day for Harry Potter to be owned by a stream company…It almost ushers Harry Potter into the new era.”
— C (17:17)
“Netflix is going to want to make their money back on…their $83 billion investment. So they’re going to want to greenlight some major projects…Harry Potter will be a top priority for them.”
— C (02:43)
“If you know that you can just go on to Netflix and easily find it, it's going to make these movies available to a much larger audience.”
— D (03:47)
“They need her approval…Say what you will about her politics…They need to stay in her good graces. They need her on their side.”
— C (11:21)
“Is this where we finally are able to get a Marauder’s backstory…Is it an opportunity maybe to do something on the founders of the school? I mean, there’re so many different directions…”
— D (09:04)
“Netflix just set itself up extremely well for the future with…franchises that already have a built-in fan base.”
— D (15:22)
“You never would have thought Netflix would buy Warner. You would think it would be the other way around, maybe.”
— C (15:48)
“If anybody was to take over the reins, Netflix is the right company to do it.”
— D (21:20)
The hosts express cautious optimism about the future of Harry Potter under Netflix, observing that the franchise is poised for new growth and creative expansion—provided Netflix works closely with J.K. Rowling and learns from past missteps. Fans are advised to expect growing pains, price hikes, and slow transitions, but the general takeaway is positive: this deal could revitalize the Wizarding World and usher it into a new streaming era.
For more in-depth weekly coverage and analysis on all things Harry Potter, including developments on this major news, follow MuggleCast!