Murder Sheet – "Announcements, Biscuits, and CrimeCon"

Release Date: September 16, 2025
Hosts: Áine Cain (journalist) & Kevin Greenlee (attorney)

Episode Overview

This episode of Murder Sheet is a candid, behind-the-scenes check-in with hosts Áine and Kevin as they reflect on recent events, including their book tour, memorable listener moments, and a deep dive into their first experience at CrimeCon. The discussion weaves between announcements, humorous travel mishaps, heartfelt observations on their true crime work, and a strong focus on community and legacy around the Delphi case.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. What’s Next for Murder Sheet?

• Listener Curiosity on Upcoming Deep Dives

  • Most-Asked Question: “What’s the next case you’re going to do with the same intensity as Delphi?”
  • Answer: "We don’t know" (05:08). The hosts are considering several cases but are committed to only covering stories where they feel they can add value:
    • "We don't want to just be following the national news media. We don't want to just be sort of rehashing work that others have done." – Áine (06:02)
  • Emphasis on quality over quantity, and recognizing when to lead as experts versus platforming others.

• Book Writing Process

  • Who Wrote Which Section?
    • Joked that any “exceptionally well done” section was by Áine (07:07), but in reality, both wrote and edited each other’s work for a seamless voice.

2. Upcoming Events & Book Signings

• Extensive rundown of book signings and public appearances in Indiana and Kentucky, inviting listeners to attend and even suggest or organize events:
  • "If you have a book club, a bookstore, a library, a what? You know, if you have something in mind, now's a really good time. Just email us at murdersheetmail.com and we are people pleasers. We will try to make it work out as best we can." – Áine (11:38)

3. Delphi – Community, Biscuits, and Book Reception

• Biscuits in Delphi – A Running Joke & Listener Pilgrimage
  • Listeners repeatedly confirm the hosts’ rave reviews of local biscuits in Delphi:
    • "People say, I thought you were exaggerating about the biscuits. If anything, you were underselling them. They were magnificent." – Kevin (14:55)
  • Statement about the warm and friendly community in Delphi.
  • Emotional significance of meeting book subjects at local signings:
    • "One thing that was really nice was getting to see some of the people, because people who were in the book did turn out and came up and said hi, and it was kind of an honor." – Áine (24:39)
• Nerves About Book Signings in Delphi
  • "It was very nerve wracking... we've often felt like the dog who caught the proverbial car... and then you finally meet them and you're like, oh, my God." – Áine (16:34)
  • Deep gratitude toward both local residents and Murder Sheet listeners who came to events.

4. CrimeCon – First Experience Reflections

• Travel and Packing Mishaps

  • Humorous retelling of forgotten clothes – "I forgot my pants or my skirts in this case." – Áine (27:29)
  • Kevin’s irony in bringing “enough pants,” while Áine ended up at a Walmart in Aurora, CO buying replacements.

• CrimeCon Booth Reality Check

  • Admits the booth was bare: "We had us. We had one copy of the book...and a roll of stickers" (31:00).
  • Dave from The Detectives podcast tried to assuage Áine’s sticker anxiety, leading to a funny misunderstanding (32:09).

• Meeting Other Podcasters and Fans

  • Strong praise for Dave and Steve (The Detectives), whom Áine names as a personal CrimeCon highlight (33:04).
  • Reflection on podcasting’s sometimes lonely nature:
    • "However you're experiencing this, it's – Anya and I are sitting in a room with a couple of microphones just talking to each other, and that can be a little lonely. So it's nice when you get to interact with people who are out there listening to your words." – Kevin (40:10)

• Listener Interactions

  • Describes the deep satisfaction of meeting long-time listeners and newer fans.
  • "The parasocial stuff goes both ways. Because I'm like, I feel like I know you because we've been chatting for so long, even if we haven't met in person" – Áine (38:39)

5. Delphi Case at CrimeCon: Panels and Honors

• Delphi Panels

  • Two major panels attended: one with Prosecutor Nick McLeland & Lt. Jerry Holman; one with the families of Abby and Libby (46:13).
  • Emotional resonance and the importance of supporting victims’ families:
    • "They're wonderful people. They have really found a community in Crime Con." – Áine (46:38)

• Recognition from CrimeCon

  • "The Delphi Group received the Crime Fighter of the Year award. They were awarded that by John Walsh...to the families of Abby and Libby, as well as prosecutor Nicholas McLeland and Lt. Jerry Holman." – Áine (48:35)
  • Kevin emphasizes the team effort behind the scenes, naming unsung investigators and support staff (49:29).

6. Reflections on the Emotional Toll of True Crime Reporting

• Community and Shared Experience

  • Áine’s emotional comments about the collective journey of Murder Sheet listeners throughout the Delphi case and trial coverage:
    • "It struck me like we all really did kind of go through that together...there was just something about that that made me feel...we're just part of this community and less alone and very gratifying." (53:00)
  • Describes the lingering sense of “never really leaving” the Delphi trial emotionally, but reframes it as a way to continue supporting Abby and Libby’s legacy:
    • "Maybe that can be the moving on side of things, even if we never really fully move on." – Áine (56:40)

• Meaningful Coincidence

  • After the Delphi biscuit shop event, the song “I Don’t Live Here Anymore” by The War on Drugs played as they drove away, prompting tears and reflection (56:05).

• Appreciation for Each Other

  • Hosts exchange heartfelt appreciation for their partnership:
    • "It's been an honor to work with Kevin on this because he is a prince among men and is so easy to work with, even though I'm a terrible perfectionist and just always having some kind of emotional breakdown at Walmart or on the drive home from Delphi or otherwise. But he makes working together very easy." – Áine (57:47)
    • "Anya is also wonderful to work with, even when she's obsessing over whether or not I have enough pairs of pants." – Kevin (58:28)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments with Timestamps

• On What’s Next:

  • Kevin: "We don't know." [05:08]

• Adding Value to True Crime:

  • Áine: "What we like to be led by is are we adding value to a case and are we adding value to all of you in terms of what you're getting out of it?" [05:23]

• On Book Writing:

  • Kevin: "Whatever part of the book that was your personal favorite that you thought was really exceptionally well done, that was written by Anya." [07:07]

• Biscuits in Delphi:

  • Kevin: "People say, I thought you were exaggerating about the biscuits. If anything, you were underselling them. They were magnificent." [14:55]
  • Áine: "Plucked from the heavens like manna." [15:04]

• Nerves About Local Signing:

  • Áine: "That was very nerve wracking because it was... we've often felt like the dog who caught the proverbial car...and then you finally meet them and you're like, oh, my God." [16:34]

• On Misadventures Packing for CrimeCon:

  • Kevin: "What happens Friday morning on the first day of Crimecon? Anya opens up the luggage and she doesn't have anything to wear." [27:21]

• Podcasting Being Lonely:

  • Kevin: "Podcasting could sometimes be a little bit lonely...it's nice when you get to interact with people who are out there listening to your words." [40:10]

• On Listener Community:

  • Áine: "The parasocial stuff goes both ways. Because I'm like, I feel like I know you because we've been chatting for so long, even if we haven't met in person." [38:39]

• CrimeCon Recognition:

  • Áine: "The Delphi Group received the Crime Fighter of the Year award. They were awarded that by John Walsh...to the families of Abby and Libby, as well as prosecutor Nicholas McLeland and Lt. Jerry Holman." [48:35]

• On Not Leaving the Delphi Case Behind:

  • Áine: "We kind of stayed at the trial and we kind of stayed there forever. I mean, like, in a way, like, it kind of changed us. Is that fair to say?" [56:05]
  • Kevin: "It's definitely fair to say." [56:06]

• Closing Gratitude:

  • "We just appreciate all of you for sort of sticking with us and kind of going on this journey with us and appreciate everybody, you know, for doing that, because it's meant the world to us." – Áine (58:38)

Important Timestamps by Topic

• [02:29] – Content and purpose of the episode
• [05:07] – What’s next for Murder Sheet and book writing process
• [09:29] – Announcements for signings and future events
• [14:40] – Biscuit shop reflections and listener interactions
• [16:23] – Meeting book subjects/signing in Delphi
• [27:21] – CrimeCon packing mishaps (pants/skirt saga)
• [31:00] – CrimeCon booth setup and sticker anxiety
• [33:04] – Meeting other creators (The Detectives), community-building
• [35:46] – Delphi case connections at CrimeCon, family recognition
• [38:39] – Listener encounters and the parasocial relationship reversal
• [46:11] – Delphi panels and impact on the families
• [48:35] – Crime Fighter of the Year Award at CrimeCon
• [53:00] – Emotional reflections on sharing the Delphi case journey
• [56:05] – The challenge and comfort of never fully “leaving” Delphi

Conclusion

This episode provides fans with a heartfelt, occasionally funny, often emotional look into the world of Murder Sheet behind the scenes. Both hosts open up about their nervousness, the unexpected joys and affirming experiences of meeting their audience and fellow creators, and the ongoing impact of reporting on the Delphi murders. The love for their community is palpable throughout this relaxed “check-in” episode, underlining both their dedication to quality journalism and their gratitude for their listeners’ ongoing support.