Podcast Summary: Murder Sheet – "The Cheat Sheet: Bistros and Burglars"

Date: September 26, 2025
Hosts: Anya Cain & Kevin Greenlee

Overview

In this multifaceted episode, journalist Anya Cain and attorney Kevin Greenlee take listeners on a journey through a series of recent and unusual crime stories spanning the United States and France. With their signature blend of thoughtful analysis, wry humor, and occasional personal stories, the co-hosts delve into topics ranging from the deadly consequences of stalking and ambushes of law enforcement, a mysterious French murder case sparking mass speculation, a surreal Ohio shooting, celebrity-adjacent cold cases in Colorado, celebrity process serving gone awry, and the legal gray areas of serving process on high-profile figures. The episode reflects deeply on the recurring theme of how violence and crime intertwine with society, media, and the justice system.

1. Intro & Episode Structure

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2. Pennsylvania Detective Ambush (Domestic Violence and Police Murders)

[05:15 – 14:07]

• Incident Recap:
  On September 17, 2025, three Pennsylvania detectives investigating a stalking case were ambushed and murdered by a gunman outside his ex-girlfriend’s property.
• Host Analysis:
  • Anya refuses to name the suspect, noting:

    “Why give this pathetic creep any sort of attention? … Not on my show.” [06:12]

  • Both hosts emphasize the urgency of treating stalking as a serious prelude to violence—Anya calls for harsher sentences, viewing stalking as an escalation often leading to murder.
  • Kevin references the Rebecca Schaeffer case, highlighting stalking's fatal outcomes.
  • Anya shares empathy for both the slain officers’ families and the ex-girlfriend targeted by the perpetrator, and she reflects on society’s failure to prevent such escalation:

    “It’s not passion. It’s like cold-blooded hunting, seeing other people as your property and going around and lying in wait in order to harm people.” [09:27]

• Victim Tribute:
  The victims—Detective Sergeant Cody Becker, Detective Mark Baker, and Detective Isaiah Emenhiser—were remembered as community heroes and family men.
  • Each had saved lives in their service, underlining the profound loss.
• Memorable Quote:

  “If you can get people when they’re still in the stalking phase, you’re going to save lives potentially.” – Anya Cain [13:12]

3. France’s High-Profile “No Body” Murder Case & True Crime Spectacle

[14:17 – 31:45]

• Case Details:
  • The accused, Cédric Jubilar, is on trial for his wife Delphine's murder, though her body was never found.
  • The case has gripped France, drawing comparisons to Delphi—a parallel with American cases fueled by social media “bistro counter” speculation.
• Host Discussion:
  • Kevin is fascinated by the French public’s internet crime-solving explosion.

    “These online groups are, quote, the equivalent of the bistro counter, but with more people.” [16:15]

  • Anya issues a warning to France about the pitfalls of online amateur sleuthing:

    “It’s all fun and games until people start accusing each other of murder needlessly and it’s just dumb.” [18:42]

  • The duo explores challenges in prosecuting “no body” cases, with Kevin noting U.S. conviction rates are higher because prosecutors only proceed with robust evidence.
  • Kevin questions whether Jubilar—portrayed as a layabout—could execute a “perfect murder.” Anya rebuts this as a myth, pointing out mediocrity does not preclude violent acts.
• Speculation/Controversy:
  • The only alleged evidence is two supposed confessions (unsubstantiated), and, bizarrely, Jubilar claims his wife might have joined ISIS.
  • Anya is skeptical, citing normal patterns of radicalization are absent.
  • They express doubt about sufficient evidence but acknowledge the social and emotional forces driving public intrigue.
• Memorable Quotes:

  “Men do this all the time, they kill their wives. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist, you just have to be violent and, you know, bad.” – Anya Cain [30:41]
  “If you thought your husband wasn’t able to take care of them, would she just leave and abandon her children to him?” – Kevin Greenlee on Delphine’s love for her children [30:17]

4. Ohio: Naked Gunman and a Police Shooting Mystery

[32:07 – 35:36]

• Story Highlights:
  • In August 2025, in Gibson City, Ohio, officers responded to reports of a naked 70-year-old man, David D. Jordan, who promptly shot both responding officers before his house caught fire. He then fled, possibly on a red bicycle, and remains at large.
• Analysis:
  • Anya describes the chaos and strangeness of the case, noting it is rare for a police shooter to evade authorities for so long:

    “He’s considered armed and dangerous. So if you happen to see this old white dude wandering around, call 911.” [34:33]

  • The incident raises questions about policing, officer safety, and offender tracking.
• Memorable Moment:
  Anya reads out the tip line, underlining the open nature of the case.

5. Colorado Cold Case: The Murder of Sid Wells & DA Alex Hunter

[35:40 – 41:33]

• Incident Recap:
  • The murder of journalism student Sid Wells in Boulder, Colorado (1983); Wells was dating Robert Redford’s daughter.
  • Main suspect: his roommate, Thayne Smika, who disappeared after the DA declined to prosecute in the 1980s; later evidence led to a renewed warrant, but Smika remains at large.
• Host Discussion:
  • The case’s connection to Robert Redford has kept it in the public eye.
  • DA Alex Hunter’s role (also noted for mishandling the JonBenét Ramsey case) is heavily criticized by both hosts.

    “He is perhaps one of the most useless district attorneys in a high-profile case that I’ve ever read about.” – Anya [38:38]

  • The episode illustrates the difficulties in prosecuting cold cases, especially with the passage of time and problematic investigative history.
• Notable Quote:

  “Hopefully...this burst of publicity from the death of Mr. Redford will attract some attention.” – Kevin [40:55]

6. Celebrity Stalking & Process Server Escalation (Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce)

[41:34 – 48:41]

• Incident Recap:
  • Taylor Swift and fiancé Travis Kelce, both recent victims of stalking, were further targeted by an overzealous process server who trespassed onto Kelce’s property, allegedly to serve legal papers related to a high-profile lawsuit.
• Legal Analysis:
  • Anya and Kevin discuss the limits of what a process server may do:

    “You're not allowed to do that, even if you're a process server.” – Kevin [44:34]

  • The hosts speculate whether the act was meant for publicity, noting the tabloid spectacle serves no one and puts people in harm’s way.
  • The judge in the Swift-related lawsuit eventually denies the deposition request, with Swift’s attorney noting her lack of material involvement.
  • They touch on the stressful, sometimes dangerous, nature of process serving.
  • The story segues into a comparison with Anya’s own experience being served, emphasizing the need for professionalism.
• Quotes:

  “It just almost seems like there’s something calculated about it because why would you do it this way otherwise? Unless you're just stupid, which is always, I guess, possible.” – Anya [45:41]

7. Closing Segments: Events, Listener Engagement, and Personal Stories

Upcoming Murder Sheet Events

[49:41 – 52:53]

• The hosts promote their upcoming book signings and talks in Indiana and Kentucky, explicitly inviting listeners to check their website for details.

Anecdote Exchanges

[54:32 – 69:49]

• Anya’s College Bike Race Story: A comedic, slightly harrowing tale of biking to an 8k run via public highways and tunnels—the perils of under-preparation turned into a lesson about over-planning.
• Kevin’s Fifth-Grade Journalism Saga: Kevin shares his formative experience with authority and freedom of the press as a child reporter at ‘Richards Republic,’ humorously recalling the principal’s meltdown over a harmless interview quote.

  "That taught me a lot about freedom of the press and freedom of speech." – Kevin [67:48]

Notable Quotes

• On Stalking & Violence:

  "You don’t stalk someone by accident. So I think this stuff needs to be taken really seriously and law and legislation needs to catch up with the reality here." – Anya Cain [10:53]

• On Amateur Sleuth Culture:

  "France, you know, we just don’t. I’m just having done it over here… you ruin people’s lives for no reason." – Anya Cain [18:42]

• On Cold Cases and Prosecutors:

  “He is perhaps one of the most useless district attorneys…that I’ve ever read about.” – Anya Cain [38:38]
  “It’s difficult for me to have any respect for him… after that I never automatically respected someone just because of their authority.” – Kevin Greenlee, on the elementary school principal [67:48]

• On Gender, Violence, and Myths:

  “We expect too much from murderers. You don’t really need that much. You can get lucky and you can just kind of, I don’t know, go under the radar for a while.” – Anya Cain [30:41]

Timestamps for Major Segments

• Pennsylvania Detective Ambush: [05:15 – 14:07]
• France “No Body” Murder Case: [14:17 – 31:45]
• Ohio Naked Gunman: [32:07 – 35:36]
• Colorado Redford Cold Case: [35:40 – 41:33]
• Taylor Swift Process Serving: [41:34 – 48:41]
• Personal Anecdotes: [54:32 – 69:49]

Takeaways

• Stalking is lethal—the episode underscores the need for stronger legal consequences and early interventions.
• True crime speculation can become toxic, especially as it migrates across cultures.
• Cold cases hinge on investigative rigor and prosecutorial decisions, with public fascination sometimes leading to perpetual debate.
• Law & celebrity intersect with unexpected comic moments in process serving and stalker cases.
• Hosts’ personal stories round out the episode with humor, vulnerability, and reflections on authority, risk, and preparation.

This episode of Murder Sheet masterfully weaves together analysis, advocacy, legal insight, and wit, making for a gripping and multifaceted listen or read, especially for those seeking to understand the deeper dynamics behind recent crime news headlines.