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Yeah. Oh, you think I would if I. Oh my God. Go. Jesus Christ, Kevin. So October 7, 1975, the Concord Monitor reported that Ernest, a guy named Ernest W. Gable entered no plea for, for possessing marijuana. So. So this is where things get weird. Ernest Stanberry is listed in some of the original reporting on, on the Lord case. But, but nowadays people say his name was Ernest W. Gable. So I don't, I don't really know what's going on. I believe that they are the same guy because Ernest Gable is also listed as a neighbor of Lord. And Ernest Gable is also listed as dying in 1987. So I think it's the same guy. Maybe he had an alias. I don't know. It's possible they're different guys, and I just am totally confused. But, yeah, anyways, on April 13, 1976, Gable was also found guilty of being a felon in possession of a firearm. So he was. He was a, you know, career criminal. And this is. This is kind of where things get even odder. Early reporting on the Julie Lord murder mentions the Stanberry guy, saying they had a kind of a stormy relationship. I don't know what that means. They talk about how he was a suspect early on because he would let himself into her apartment. He once let herself into himself into her apartment at 2am 10 days before the murder and was telling her that he wanted to see her naked and that she was also very scared of him, according to her coworkers. And his fingerprints were on her window as if he'd been sliding it open. There were also African American hairs at the scene. He was black, she was white. So it was. I mean, I don't understand how they didn't convict this guy then, I guess, is one thing that I don't really get. But, you know, like, apparently it went cold again. I. I guess I'm confused by their relationship too, because I feel like in many situations, if that was happening with your neighbor, people would, like, call the police. I don't know if they had been in a relationship and it ended and then this happened, or if it was like just. Just a neighbor relationship. And for some reason, either she wasn't reporting it or that or the. Or the police weren't taking it seriously, but it's pretty scary. So this is where things get interesting. And, you know, frankly, you know, so. So frankly, karma. I mean, I hate to say it, and no one should get murdered, but if anyone's gonna get murdered, if it's a murderer and a rapist, good. He was murdered himself. He was stabbed to death in California in 1987. And now DNA, or rather the Cold Case Unit, the New Hampshire Cold Case Unit, announced that they would have charged him today with the murder based on the evidence. So, like, yeah, anyways, it is a sad story of this young mom losing her life in a horrible, horrible way. But it also just makes you wonder, like, why was this guy allowed to just run around and do this stuff and, like, break into people's apartments and, you know, good questions. Second case is also, you're just chop, chop. Yeah. So right through these, we're going from New England to I guess the mid Atlantic states. We're going to New. New Jersey, where this is a case that happened in 2017. So my sources for this one are CBS News's report on this as well as there's a. I accessed articles from the Trenton Times in the South Jersey Times via newspapers.com Oftentimes, you know, I. I feel like when there's an update on a case, those kind of new news articles are helpful and kind of get you caught up, but they don't give you all of the whole context. And so I. I find newspapers.com very helpful in that respect. So this one actually reminded me of an Indiana case. You know, there's a horrible case out of Indiana that's the Blake and China Dickus murders. This was a young boy and his stepmom who were brutally murdered a number of years ago. It's still unsolved. One of those cases I've always been kind of interested in, maybe diving into more because it's one of those ones that really stands out. The. The crime was apparently extremely brutal, but it's also not known to be connected to anything else. So it's certainly like what happened there. But anyway, this was the case of a mother and son. It was. And I'm sorry if I say their names wrong. It was Sasikala Nara and her son, Anish Nara. She was 38, and he was only 6. They were living in the Fox Meadow Apartments in Mapleshade, New Jersey. That's where they were living in March 24, 2017. And the father and husband was a guy named Hanumantha Rao Nara. And the Naras both worked for a company, a technology company called Cognizant. And they were originally from the Indian state of Andhra Pradesh. This is on India's east coast. So they came over there. They had jobs. So anyways, Mr. Nara returned to their home around 9:30pm that night, he found his wife and child stabbed multiple times. It's a horrible crime scene. Lots of defensive wounds. They put up a fight. Their throats were cut, and it's just horrible. Neighbors at the time reported seeing him crying outside. I mean, it's just like a really bad situation. So it's interesting a couple of different things would come up. Indian media in India reported marital strife possibly. So some people, I think, were looking at Mr. Nara. Some people were worried that it was a hate crime. This is a couple. They're from India. Sometimes people have hate in their hearts, and they're gonna try to hurt people who are. Who are different from them or from a different place. And so people were concerned. It was that. But in 2019, a lab report, they're kind of going over it again and they sh. They find that this is a very bloody scene. But there's a single drop of blood at the scene that does not belong to anyone in the Nara family. And at that time, the name of a possible person of interest came up. This guy is named Nazir Hamid. He was a co worker of the Naras and he lived within walking distance of the family. This is all very vague. No, I don't know what went on between these people. But what's been reported again, very vaguely, is that he may have had a grudge against Mr. Nara, maybe followed him around. I don't know. I don't know what that means. If they're saying like he was stalking him or he was just obsessed with them or like what was going on. And Hamid. Mr. Hamid was. Yeah, Nazir Hamid was working in the United States on a visa. He was also from India. And six months after the murders he moved back to India. So investigators teamed up with federal law enforcement, I'm assuming the Federal Bureau of Investigation, although it doesn't make that clear, as well as police in India. And they wanted to get his DNA sample to compare it to the blood. He declined. So then in 2024, they actually got a court order. They went to Hamid's employer and they got them to send them his company issued laptop. And they got DNA from that and it was a match. So In November of 2025, prosecutors announced that Hamid has been charged with murder and related offenses. If you're like me, you're so into true crime that you kind of get extra careful about stuff, making sure you're not followed, for instance, staying situationally aware. And of course checking the locks on your doors and windows before bed. Better safe than sorry, right? Because we all know bad stuff can and unfortunately does happen.