Murder Sheet: The Delphi Murders – Baldwin's Complaint: Part Two

Release Date: December 3, 2025
Hosts: Áine Cain (A), Kevin Greenlee (B)

Overview

This episode of Murder Sheet delves into the aftermath of the high-profile Delphi murders trial — specifically analyzing the complaint filed by defense attorney Andrew Baldwin against prosecutor Nicholas McLeland. Hosts Áine Cain and Kevin Greenlee break down the complaint, its context within the larger “Odinism theory” conspiracy, and reveal exclusive behind-the-scenes information about frivolous disciplinary complaints being weaponized as a form of revenge or harassment by supporters of Richard Allen and his defense team. The episode further critiques Baldwin’s complaint with detailed references to documents, depositions, and the overall conduct of the trial and its participants.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Background of the Delphi Case

• [03:01] Quick Recap: On February 13, 2017, Richard Allen murdered Liberty German (14) and Abigail Williams (13) in Delphi, Indiana. Prosecuted by Nicholas McLeland, Allen was convicted in November 2024 and received the maximum sentence.
• The defense, led by Baldwin and Rosie, pushed the "Odinism" conspiracy but failed at trial. Allen is now in prison.
• [04:47] Baldwin’s Complaint: Baldwin filed a disciplinary complaint against McLeland in the summer of 2024 regarding alleged withheld evidence. It was swiftly dismissed.

2. Pattern of Frivolous Complaints & Revenge Tactics

• [05:00] The hosts claim this complaint is part of a strategy by Richard Allen "truthers" to retaliate against perceived enemies by filing groundless complaints.
• [05:28] Kevin Greenlee himself is a target of similar tactics, underscoring a broader pattern.

3. Origins and Flaws of the Odinism Theory

• [07:12] The role of Todd Klick, a former assistant police chief, and others (Kevin Murphy, Greg Ferency), as proponents of the Odinism theory are outlined.
• Major points:
  • Klick and the defense had significantly differing accounts—Klick’s theory was considered "bunk" by the hosts.
  • Klick sent a letter to prosecutor McLeland during the defense’s interest in Odinism but, as evidence showed, the defense was already aware due to materials provided by the prosecution.

"[Baldwin] learned about the Odinism angle prior to Klick writing the prosecutor...simply by looking at things that the prosecutor gave him to look at." — Kevin Greenlee [12:19]

4. Credibility Concerns Around Todd Klick

• [13:37] Áine provides a detailed background on Klick’s credibility issues (forgery, falsifying child services reports), calling into question his motivations and emotional investment.
• [16:26] The hosts contrast effective police work (“what does the evidence tell us?”) with Klick’s emotionally driven theorizing.

5. Dissecting Baldwin’s Complaint – Evidence Suppression Allegations

• [10:59] Baldwin’s accusation: McLeland withheld information regarding Odinism.
• The actual documents indicate the defense was, in fact, given all the pertinent evidence, negating the claim of deliberate suppression.

6. Defense Team Personality and Conduct

• [12:52] Hosts suggest Baldwin’s filings read as if “he thinks he’s smarter than everybody else,” likening it to “The Wizard of Oz” expose.
• [24:30] Baldwin’s complaint is mocked for its “fan fiction” style, with hypothetical speeches imagined for investigators, further emphasizing its lack of legal professionalism.

“You almost imagine he has like a Jerry Holman and Kevin Murphy doll at his house and he's… rehearse this…” — Áine Cain [24:30]

7. Ricky Davis Letters & Defense Strategy

• [26:30] The introduction of Ricky Davis (or Richie Davis)—an informant claiming he overheard Ron Logan confess to the murders in prison.
• [28:35] Baldwin interviewed Davis months before trial but never introduced the information until after conviction—in letters that actually implicated Allen, not exonerated him.
• [30:16] Davis claimed Baldwin suggested he lie for Allen, an accusation damaging to Baldwin’s credibility—yet Baldwin still references Davis in his complaint.
• [32:47] The hosts highlight the desperate and contradictory defense strategies, often attempting to combine various wild theories (Odinists, Logan, Klein) with no real coherence.

“Credibility is like virginity. You've either got it or you don't.” — Kevin Greenlee [34:02]

8. The Facebook Photo — ‘Mimicked Crime Scene’

• [39:36] Baldwin’s complaint leans heavily on a Facebook photo posted by Brad Holder (with an airtight alibi), claiming it eerily matches the crime scene.
• Hosts carefully detail the superficial similarities and debunk the idea it is damning evidence—Holder’s photo posted before the murders, depicts something innocuous, and law enforcement dismissed it as irrelevant.

“I am so sick of hearing about this thing. ... These are different.” — Áine Cain [43:58]

9. Lost Interview Recordings – Technical Mishap

• [49:13] Due to technical error in 2017, some early witness interviews (including Holder’s) were taped over, but this was with cleared suspects, making it irrelevant to Allen’s guilt.
• Baldwin’s emphasis on this point and repeated use of all-caps and melodrama is criticized.

10. Legal Tactics and The Safekeeping Order

• [56:37] Discussion of the "safekeeping order" used to move Allen for his safety from a severely overcrowded jail—again, Baldwin’s conspiracy allegations are described as baseless by hosts.

11. Defense Team Performance at Trial

• [59:00] Áine notes the defense, especially Baldwin, utterly failed to live up to its pre-trial hype—calling his trial conduct "abysmal."
• The hosts emphasize that Baldwin’s complaint is more about wounded pride than genuine legal merit.

12. Weaponizing Professional Complaints — Host’s Own Experience

• [59:43] The hosts recount experiencing frivolous complaints themselves, including attempts from a defense appellate attorney and a YouTuber, both aiming to intimidate, silence and chill journalistic investigation.
• These complaints, like Baldwin's, were summarily dismissed.

“I think these are people who are using instruments of law to silence those they disagree with.” — Áine Cain [68:22]

13. What Has Baldwin Accomplished?

• [69:37] Rather than discrediting McLeland, Baldwin’s complaint resulted in the Indiana Disciplinary Commission giving McLeland a clean bill of health.

14. Final Reflections and Direct Critique

• [70:45-72:42] In a pointed monologue, Kevin turns Baldwin's sentiment (“I have lost faith in the system”) back on him, arguing that Baldwin’s conduct was actually what made many lose faith, and that ultimately, the system worked to secure justice for the girls.
• The episode closes by observing that most of the defense’s online supporters have moved on, and reaffirms their pride in the integrity of the Indiana legal process.

“You, sir, are why they lost faith. You and your colleagues made a travesty of this process and you continue to do so with nonsense like this complaint against Mr. McCleland.” — Kevin Greenlee [71:19]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Baldwin’s Complaint:
  "It makes no sense. That's what, really, really Machiavellian of Nick to be handing them what they need on a silver platter to learn about this stupid theory." — Áine Cain [12:34]

• On Defense Theorizing:
  “These are situations involving families and children who may be in danger...when you’re...falsifying reports...that’s pretty serious.” — Áine Cain (on Klick) [13:37]

• On Defense Tactics:
  “…this is all after the case is over...and he’s whining about McClelland not paying him the attention he feels he deserves. He’s writing out things where he's having McClelland apologize to him and soothe his ego.” — Áine Cain [38:01]

• Mocking Legal ‘Fan Fiction’:
  “Baldwin has this habit…of writing weird fan fiction about what he thinks people should say... It’s the cringiest thing I’ve ever, like, don’t—like, why is he doing this?” — Áine Cain [25:17]

• On Weaponized Complaints:
  “These people are largely driven by the idea that they are morally superior to others...So they’re completely entitled to do whatever they can to harm people like us and people like McClelland.” — Áine Cain [68:22]

• On System Working:
  “At the end of the day, they have made me deeply proud to be an Indiana lawyer. So at the end of the day, you made the process an extraordinarily ugly one, but the system worked just as it should.” — Kevin Greenlee [72:42]

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:01 – Delphi case background, Richard Allen conviction
• 04:47 – Details of Baldwin’s complaint against McLeland
• 07:12 – Introducing Todd Klick and origins of Odinism theory
• 13:37 – Klick’s credibility crisis explained
• 24:30 – Mocking of complaint’s “fan fiction” narrative
• 28:35 – Ricky Davis letters and accusations against Baldwin
• 39:36 – Explaining the infamous Brad Holder “mimicked crime scene” photo
• 49:13 – Tape over error and exaggerated claims of lost evidence
• 56:37 – Safekeeping order controversy addressed
• 59:43 – Host recollections of harassment & complaints against them
• 69:37 – Impact (or lack thereof) of Baldwin’s complaint, commission’s decision
• 70:45 – Final direct critique of Baldwin, moral of the case

Episode Tone & Style

The episode uses sharp, sometimes sarcastic candor, with the hosts deploying wit and sometimes pointed personal critique. Factual and legal discussion is occasionally enlivened by humor (e.g., references to legal “fan fiction,” comic book style writing, and poking fun at conspiracy cranks) but always anchored in a firm rejection of the conspiracy-laden narrative advanced by the defense. The hosts maintain a clear-eyed and often moralistic stance, prioritizing evidence, credible legal analysis, and the importance of professional conduct both in court and in public discourse.

Conclusion

This episode of Murder Sheet offers a scathing, deeply detailed dissection of Andrew Baldwin’s disciplinary complaint against prosecutor Nicholas McLeland. Through careful review of the evidence, legal documents, and the absurdities within the complaint, Áine and Kevin make a sweeping case for the legitimacy of the trial’s outcome and the systemic failures (personal and professional) of Allen’s defense team. The show ends with a reaffirmation of their faith in the system, even after enduring attempts at professional intimidation themselves.