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Carter Roy
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Vanessa Richardson
So we've all struggled with our identity at one point or another. It can be difficult, painful even, to feel like we don't belong. Like an outsider looking in. These struggles are normal, though you might even say they're an essential part of life. If we don't look inward and examine ourselves, our wants, needs and desires, we'll never become the person we're meant to be. It'll always feel like something's missing. But what if the voice in your head is wrong? When Bonnie Lou Nettles and Marshall Applewhite listened to that voice, it told them the reason they felt different was because they were different. In fact, they weren't even human. Bonnie and Marshall believed they'd been sent to Earth on a mission. Their goal was to find others like them and bring them back to space. Dead or From UFO cults and mass suicides to secret CIA experiments, presidential assassinations and murderous doctors, these aren't theories. These are the real stories that blur the line between fact and fiction. I'm Vanessa Richardson and this is Conspiracy Theories, Cults and Crimes, a Crime House original powered by Pave Studios. And every Wednesday I'll explore the real people at the center of the world's most shocking events and nefarious organizations. At the end of every cult focused episode, we'll also be introducing Cult Watch, a quick look at modern day groups that are still active, dangerous and largely flying under the radar. Because cults aren't just part of our past, they're still shaping lives today. And to continue building this community, I'll be asking for your input so we can decode each story together. If you want your voice heard, make sure to respond on Spotify or leave a review on Apple. Or if you just want to support the show, rate, review and follow conspiracy theories, cults and crimes wherever you get your podcasts and for early ad free access to every episode plus exclusive bonus content. Subscribe to Crime House plus on Apple Podcasts Today I'm discussing a cult that made headlines in 1997 when a mass suicide left 39 people dead in California. The group known as Heaven's Gate preached a blend of Christianity, New Age mysticism and science fiction. Its members, led by Marshall Applewhite and Bonnie Lou Nettles, believed they would ascend to heaven and the only way to travel there was by a real life ufo. But reaching those pearly gates would come at a steep price. If Bonney and Marshall's followers wanted to get there, they'd have to pay with their lives. All that and more coming up.
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Vanessa Richardson
Buying a car in Carvana was so easy I was able to finance it through them. I just. Whoa, wait. You mean finance? Yeah, finance. Got pre qualified for a Carvana Auto loan, entered my terms and shot from thousands of great car options, all within my budget. That's cool. But financing through Carvana was so easy. Financed. Done. I get to pick up my car from their Carvana vending machine tomorrow. Financed, right? That's what I said. You can spend time trying to pronounce financing, or you can actually finance and buy your car Today on Carvana financing subject to credit approval. Additional terms and conditions may apply. Sometimes the most shocking stories have the most ordinary beginnings. That was certainly the case for Heaven's Gate and its leader, Marshall Apple White. Born in 1932 in the small city of Spur, Texas, Marshall had a typical all American upbringing and religion was a very important part of his childhood. His father was a well known Presbyterian minister in the area and he encouraged Marshall to live a life of virtue One that his family and God would be proud of. Marshall was eager to please. Growing up, he attended church regularly and wanted to become a minister just like his father. But while Marshall was a staunch Christian, he was also interested in looking elsewhere for the answers to life's biggest questions. So when it was time for him to go to college in the late 1940s or early 50s, Marshall decided to study philosophy at Austin College in Sherman, Texas. And he made a splash on campus right away. Classmates remembered Marshall as an extrovert with a magnificent genetic personality. Along with joining the association of Prospective Presbyterian Ministers, Marshall was a talented singer who led the school's acapella group. It seemed like whatever Marshall set his mind to, he would achieve it. And when it came time to graduate in 1952, the 20 year old decided to follow in his father's footsteps. That year, he enrolled at Virginia's Union Theological Seminary. But even though he enjoyed diving deeper into Presbyterian theology, he still felt like something was missing. So after two years, he decided to change course. He dropped out and studied music and voice instead. Marshall had an undeniable gift. For a while, he even dreamed of a career in opera or acting. But life had other plans. Ever since high school, Marshall had been dating a woman named Anne Pierce. She was a fellow Texan who shared Marshall's religious beliefs. And despite being long distance while Marshall was at seminary school, they both stayed loyal. In 1952, around the same time, Marshall dropped out and studied music. He and Anne got married. Before long, they'd settled down in suburban Houston and had two children. At this point, Marshall knew he'd never be a big star, but he could use his voice to support his family. Soon he became the choral director at Houston's St. Mark's Episcopal Church, as well as a music professor at The University of St. Thomas, also in Houston. He was good at what he did. But deep down, Marshall was restless and unhappy because there was one thing he'd never told anyone. He was bisexual. From a young age, Marshall had been taught to hide who he was or face the wrath of people like his father. For decades, he'd succeeded, but it had put a wall between him and those around him. By the mid-60s, Marshall felt alienated from his wife and kids and resentful of his quiet suburban life. Eventually, he couldn't repress those feelings any longer, and it would cost him everything. Sometime in 1965, when Marshall was 33 years old, he allegedly began an affair with a male student at the University of St. Thomas. The details are murky, but eventually Ann Found out. She was furious and immediately separated from Marshall. Three years later, in 1968, the couple officially divorced and and got custody of their two children. Not long after that, in 1970, the university learned about Marshall's rumored relationship with the student and he was fired. Feeling lost and alone, Marshall spent two years drifting around the country searching for his purpose. Because of the Presbyterian Church's stance on sexuality, Marshall no longer felt welcome there. It was a huge blow to his sense of self. For his whole life, Marshall had found meaning and community through his congregation. And he still yearned for that feeling of belonging. But now he'd have to find it outside of conventional religion. Soon he found a new sense of spirituality in the form of more eccentric subjects, including astrology, science fiction, ancient mysticism and UFOs. While exploring these ideas, Marshall supported himself by dabbling in small ventures. At some point he even ran a sandwich shop in New Mexico. But nothing seemed to stick. So in 1972, 40 year old Marshall returned to Houston. He was looking for a fresh start, for someone to build his life with. Because despite his newfound interests, he was still very much alone. He had no partner and no relationship. With his two children, 15 year old Mark and 13 year old Lane. It seemed like Marshall would never feel whole again. And then he met Bonnie Lou Nettles. On the surface, Bonnie was just as ordinary as Marshall. Born in Houston and in 1927 she was the second of three children in a working class Baptist family. She married young, built a life as a nurse and raised four children in the suburbs. But as the years went by, she felt increasingly out of place in the tidy routines of family life. Like Marshall, Bonnie felt like an outsider. Her daughter described her as someone who never really fit into society. She was a dreamer who liked to stare at the night sky and pretend a UFO would take her away. So it wasn't a surprise that Bonnie turned to New age spirituality for answers. She explored astrology, theosophy and fringe ideas about life and the universe. Her nights were filled with study groups and seances which often left her straight laced husband bewildered for perspective. She once told him that she was getting life advice from a dead monk named brother Francis. By 1972, it was clear that 44 year old Bonnie and her husband weren't a good fit. It was a difficult moment for Bonnie. Her marriage was failing and her future felt uncertain. All she knew was that a fortune teller had predicted a tall, fair skinned man would one day change her life. That person came in the form of Marshall Applewhite. There are a few different versions of how Bonnie and Marshall met. We know it happened at the Houston hospital where Bonnie worked, but it's not clear how Marshall ended up there. Some say he had a brush with death. Others say he had suffered a mental breakdown or was just visiting a friend. Regardless, as soon as Bonnie and Marshall locked eyes, the connection was instant. By then, Bonnie was already deep into astrology, and she offered to read Marshall's horoscope. He said yes. According to Bonnie's reading, she and Marshall had known each other in a previous life and they'd been brought back together to perform a quote, great task. So, listeners, I'd love to get your thoughts on this. Have you ever spoken to a psychic or done an astrological reading like this? What was that experience like? Let us know in the comments, wherever you listen. Well, when it came to Marshall, Bonnie's explanation made perfect sense. Suddenly he understood why he'd felt so lost the last few years. It was because he was searching for for her. And now that they'd found one another, they couldn't waste another second. Within months, Bonnie and Marshall left their jobs and families to open a spiritual center in Houston. They sold new age books and held classes on meditation, astrology, and healing. But it turned out the center wasn't their great task after all. It failed after just a few months. So Bonnie and Marshall took their teachings out of the city and into rural Texas. They opened a spiritual wellness retreat called Know Place, spelled K N O W. That's where, in July 1973, they had a revelation. They weren't just two middle aged Texans searching for meaning. They were the two witnesses from the book of revelation, destined to guide humanity into a higher realm of existence. As soon as Bonnie and Marshall had this epiphany, they abandoned the wellness retreat and traveled the country. At first, their purpose was hazy. They drove aimlessly through small towns and camped under the stars. They lived on the edge of poverty, surviving on odd jobs, donations from friends, and occasionally selling their blood at donation centers. Throughout it all, they continued to develop their spiritual vision. And it became increasingly dark. Vani and Marshall believed the earth was on the brink of destruction. If someone wanted to be saved, they needed to leave all of their human attachments behind. Marriage, family, possessions, everything tying a person to this world had to be severed. Bonnie and Marshall saw themselves as messengers from a level above human. A heavenly realm accessible only to those willing to undergo total transformation. This was both a spiritual and a physical process, A literal change that would come over those who followed their teachings. Like in the biblical book of Revelation. They thought a rapture was coming and only the faithful would be swept up to heaven. But to Bonnie and Marshall, heaven was a real physical place they'd travel to, and their mode of transportation would be a ufo.
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Vanessa Richardson
In 1972, 40 year old Marshall Applewhite met 44 year old Bonnie Lou Nettles in Houston, Texas. As soon as they crossed paths, Marshall and Bonnie knew they were destined to be in each other's lives. While Bonnie and Marshall were never involved remaining romantically, their relationship was more intense than a simple friendship because they believed they were brought together by a divine power to share a very important message with the rest of the world. According to them, the earth was on the brink of destruction and only the faithful would be saved. Bonnie and Marshall, who'd come to believe they were the two witnesses from the Book of Revelation, were convinced they had been chosen to save a select group of people. But they quickly realized their message wasn't an easy sell, especially the part about being beamed up to heaven in a ufo. The two, as Marshall and Bonnie started calling themselves, tried reaching out to churches and bookstores around the country. They pitched their ideas to anyone who would listen. Most people dismissed them as harmless eccentrics, the constant rejection war on them. But they were determined. Finally, in May 1974, after almost a year of outreach, 42 year old Marshall and 46 year old Bonnie got their first recruit, a woman named Sharon. We don't know much about Sharon or how old she was, but at the time she was married with several young kids and she'd been feeling Unhappy in her relationship for a while. When she heard about Bonnie and Marshall's message, it immediately resonated with her. Sharon was seeking a higher truth, something to give her life greater meaning. And before long, she abandoned her family to join Bonnie and Marshall in their travels around the U.S. sharon took on the role of publicist. She'd arrange speaking events for Bonnie and Marshall and gather crowds ahead of their arrival. Arrival. This went on for about four months before Sharon had a change of heart. She still believed in Bonnie and Marshall, but the guilt she felt over leaving her children behind was unbearable. In the early fall of 1974, Sharon returned home. But it wasn't the happy reunion she'd been hoping for. When she got back, her husband learned that Sharon had let Mother Marshall and Bonnie use her credit card. And then he accused them of fraud. Sometime that fall, the police arrested Bonnie and Marshall. And although Sharon's husband soon dropped the charges and let Bonnie go, Marshall wasn't free just yet. While in custody, the authorities discovered he had an outstanding warrant against him for stealing a rental car in Missouri. Marshall spent the next six months in jail, but he used the time behind bars to perfect his and Bonney's new religion. There he also had a shocking epiphany. He and Bonnie hadn't just been chosen because they were the two. They were chosen because they were not human. In fact, they were aliens and they'd been sent to Earth to help their followers transform into perfect beings like them. Marshall thought he and Bonney were modern day prophets who came from a long line of earlier messengers, including Jesus, Ezekiel and Elijah. He believed they were all extraterrestrial beings. A month after Marshall was released in April 1975, he and Bonnie unveiled this new doctrine to a crowd of like minded seekers in Los Angeles. Most people there were already interested in New Age philosophies and the occult. It was exactly the kind of receptive audience Bonney and Marshall had been looking for. After that meeting, somewhere between 23 to 27 people walked out on their lives to join the wandering duo. In September, another meeting in Oregon netted an additional 20 to 33 followers, which brought their number of followers up to about 60. The new recruits were a mix of ages and backgrounds. Among them were disillusioned young adults searching for deeper meaning, professionals burned out by conventional life and free spirits looking for adventure. But they were all united by the same same thing. A willingness to make radical sacrifices in the name of transcendence. As for Bonnie and Marshall, they now had a flock which they called human individual metamorphosis. And they quickly adopted new names, Bo and Peep, underscoring their role as shepherds, guiding their followers, who they called the sheep. Still, despite their growing numbers, the group remained unstable and disorganized. Marshall and Bonnie often struggled to feed and house everyone. They lived communally in makeshift camps around the country and shared what little they had. Bonnie and Marshall also instituted strict guidelines for their followers. They weren't allowed to have idle conversations, drink, do any form of drugs, or, or have sex. Bonnie and Marshall explained that banning these things was necessary to begin the process of severing physical attachments. That way, they'd be prepared to start the chemical and biological transformation into their new extraterrestrial bodies. As part of that process, Bonnie and Marshall split the movement into groups of two. Members were paired with another Czech partner to help them overcome their human attachments and especially their attachment to sex. Heterosexual men and women were paired together. Gay men were paired with other gay men, and lesbian women were paired with other lesbian women. This was intentional on Bonnie and Marshall's part. They wanted their followers to feel sexually attracted to one another. The key was to fight off any urges that might arise. If you succeeded, you were one step closer to transcending. Once everyone was paired off, Bonnie and Marshall sent them to find more members. Partners would travel the country together, working through their desires and seeking out converts. Occasionally, they would meet back up with the group at different campgrounds. But in the days before cell phones, communicating wasn't so easy. Members would send each other letters or use short term PO Boxes to figure out where they were meeting next. But mostly, each set of partners went wherever they felt called to go. It's not surprising that this caused some issues. At one point in late 1975 or early 76, two members got lost and couldn't find the rest of the group. They resorted to giving an interview to reporters in the hopes that Bonnie and Marshall would see it and come find them. It's not clear if that ever happened, but by April 1976, 48 year old Bonnie and 44 year old Marshall realized their organization would never survive if they couldn't get organized. So they stopped traveling and settled down in a remote corner of Wyoming. By then, they had 88 followers, about half of what they had at the height of their outreach. Most people who left had either literally gotten lost or become disillusioned with Bonnie and Marshall. But they weren't worried. The smaller numbers and single location meant Bonnie and Marshall could exert even greater control over their remaining followers in Wyoming. Bonnie And Marshall continued to maintain their rules about sex, drugs and alcohol. They allowed their members to work odd jobs, but they couldn't have permanent careers. And Bonnie Marshall and took their guidelines very seriously. Later, in 1976, they expelled 19 people for either breaking the rules or not being committed enough to the group's overall message. That way they knew whoever was left was serious about ascending to the next level and becoming extraterrestrials like Bonnie and Marshall. For the next six years, they treated the compound like a boy boot camp for outer space. And Bonnie and Marshall were their divine captains. While Marshall was the charismatic one who attracted new members and enforced the rules, Bonnie was the religious leader. She educated the rest of the group using a blend of Christianity, New Age mysticism and science fiction. But at the heart of all the doctrines, the ultimate goal was was self actualization. To get there, members structured their lives around meals, sleep, work, meditation, prayer, and creating homes. This last part, where they lived, was especially important. Remember, the goal was to become a level above humans, AKA perfected beings like Bonnie and Marshall supposedly were. And according to according to them, these types of beings lived and worked on spacecraft like those in Star Trek. Because of that, their followers referred to their houses as crafts. Bedrooms were called rest chambers, kitchens were called nutrilabs, and laundry rooms were fiber labs. Whether members were cooking or cleaning, they acted like they were in a laboratory on a spaceship. All of their actions were methodical and precise. But even though the group leaned into science fiction, there were still elements of Christianity throughout. And one of their core beliefs was that one day Bonnie and Marshall would be assassinated and resurrected just like Jesus was. They had no idea there was a storm brewing, one that would put their prophecy to the end. Ultimate test. In 1982, after seven years of honing her vision for the group known as human individual metamorphosis, 54 year old Bonnie got sick. That year. She was diagnosed with an aggressive form of liver cancer. It was a defining moment for her and Marshall. After spending so much time preaching that they were special extraterrestrial beings, Bonnie was having a uniquely human experience. And despite her insistence that she and Marshall were immune from the plights of mere mortals, nature still took its course. After holding on for three years, Bonnie passed away in 1985. She was 57 years old. Her death changed everything. Without Bonnie, 54 year old Marshall became the group's one and only leader. And he was prepared to put his crew members to the ultimate test. One the world would never forget.
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Vanessa Richardson
In 1985, Bonnie Lou Nettles passed away at age 57 of liver cancer. Her partner, 54 year old Marshall Applewhite, was utterly crushed. Bonnie was his best friend, soulmate and fellow wanderer. Not only that, she was the spiritual heart of their cult, which at the time was called Human Individual Metamorphosis. Marshall had the charm and charisma to attract new members, but most of their doctrines and religious practices had come from Bonney. But the problem ran deeper than that. Marshall and Bonney had projected themselves as Christ like figures who'd be assassinated by their enemies. Upon their deaths, they would be miraculously healed and transformed into perfect, immortal aliens. At that point, their most loyal followers would also become aliens, and they would all be carried up in a UFO to their heavenly homeworld. But Bonnie's death undermined everything. There was no assassination. Just an ordinary death from a tragic disease. And no resurrection, either. Marshall knew he needed to reframe what had happened. So he began teaching that Bonney's human form, like everyone else's, was just a vehicle. It was a temporary shell that she discarded when she no longer needed it. In other words, Bonney wasn't dead at all. She'd simply graduated to a higher plane of existence. Not everyone accepted that explanation, and one of Marshall's followers completely abandoned him. But the ones who remained took Bonnie's death as a sign they should work harder to join her in the next realm. That included showing their commitment to the guidelines she she'd set forth. After she passed, some male members, including Marshall, took their vow of abstinence to the next level and were surgically castrated. If Bonnie were alive, she might have talked him out of it. But now he was the only captain aboard a ship lost at sea. And as the years went by, Marshall's teachings grew darker and more apocalyptic. He preached that Earth was corrupt and under siege by Luciferian forces, evil aliens bent on keeping humans trapped in their flawed mortal state. The only path to salvation lay through Marshall. He claimed he received messages from Bonnie, who in her ascended state was now synonymous with God. With her God guidance, the group moved from Wyoming to New Mexico and then to Rancho Santa Fe, California. But Marshall's message was losing its appeal. At this point in the early 1990s, he'd started to preach that he wasn't just a prophet like Jesus Christ, he was Jesus. As for Bonnie, well, she was actually God. And she was waiting for Marshall and the others in heaven. For many of Marshall's followers, this latest version of events was a bridge too far, and they left the group. With each passing day, the number of members dwindled, and by 1992, or 93, there were just a few dozen left. Marshall tried to stem the bleeding with occasional outreach. First, he mailed a booklet with information about the group to various New Age centers. Then he produced a series of satellite TV broadcasts sharing their message. And finally, he placed a large ad in USA Today on May 27, 1993. His efforts seemed to pay off. Before long, he had a few new recruits, including a woman named Gail Mater, originally from New York. 21 year old Gail had always wanted to be a fashion designer. Eventually she decided to open up her own store selling knickknacks and tie dyed clothes. Her dad Robert helped fund the venture, but Gail didn't hold up her end of the bargain. Before long, she'd abandoned the shop and joined Bonnie and Marshall's new group. It would be several years before her parents heard from her again. And despite gaining a couple of fresh faces, 62 year old Marshall knew the group was failing and he was running out of steam. He saw the end approaching and decided he had one last chance. It was time to get on board the spaceship and take as many people as he could with him. In September 1994, Marshall made an announcement that sent shockwaves through the group. He claimed the time was coming for them to leave Earth and journey to the next level, a physical version of the Christian heaven. But it would require a great sacrifice. They needed to abandon their human bodies entirely. Two members walked out right then and there. But the rest, about 36 in total, stayed. By that point they already considered themselves more more alien than human. They believed that after death they would evolve and join Bonnie in the next level. All they needed now was for Marshall to give the sign. It was time to leave. That sign came in July 1995, when two amateur astronomers, Alan Hale and Thomas Bob, discovered a comet in the night sky. The so called Hale Bopp comet would spend a year passing by Earth, reaching its closest point on March 22, 1997. But the comet itself wasn't what got Marshall's attention. It was what came next. On November 14, 1996, a popular AM radio show called coast to coast with Art Bell hosted a special guest with big news about the comet. The show was known for hosting a hoot who of conspiracy theorists, alien abductees and paranormal investigators. For much of America, Art's radio show was just late night entertainment. But for Marshall and his group, who had since changed their name to Heaven's Gate, it was practically gospel. That night, Art interviewed an amateur astronomer named Chuck Schrammock who claimed to have spotted an enormous object. Trailing the comment, Shramik had a photo that supposedly confirmed this. The next night, a political science professor named Courtney Brown called in with an even more extraordinary claim. Brown had founded a company specializing in something called remote viewing. It's a paranormal ability that supposedly allows people to project their consciousness to other places and see them things they wouldn't be able to otherwise. Brown said three of his remote viewers had visited the object traveling with the Comet. They told him that it was a large, climate controlled hollow capsule. In other words, an alien spacecraft. So, listeners, I'd love to hear from you. What's your take on Brown's claims? Or maybe some of you remember the comet. If so, what was your experience with it at that time? Were you able to see it? Tell us in the comments. Well, while many dismissed Brown's claims as outlandish, some ufologists and conspiracy theorists, including members of Heaven's Gate, hung on his every word. Marshall himself was enthralled by the King comet as it swirled and twisted its way towards Earth. The whole world was tracking its approach, and by January 1997, you could see it with the naked eye. Marshall sensed there was something special about this comet, so he did some kind of astrological reading. His results connected this comet with another comet that had approached in 1973, the year he, he and Bonney became the two witnesses. Marshall was looking for a sign, and God or Bonney had delivered. He became convinced that the spaceship supposedly traveling beside the comet was the UFO he'd been waiting for. If he and his followers were going to ascend to space and meet Bonney in heaven, they had to seize this opportunity. On the heels of this revelation, Marshall announced their departure was at hand. He and his 38 crew members would leave Earth on March 22, 1997. As the comet reached its closest point in early 1997, the group began their preparations with meticulous precision. Each member received a black tracksuit, brand new Nike sneakers, and an armband embroidered with the phrase Heaven's Gate Away team. This was both a nod to Star Trek and to prepare them to continue their mission. Once they got to heaven, which again, they believed was a physical place in outer space. Their final weeks were spent tying up loose ends. They returned library books, spent the last of their money, and recorded farewell messages. These tapes were filled with serene goodbyes and heartfelt gratitude for their time on Earth. They referred to their impending suicides not as deaths, but as an exit, a graduation from their flawed human existence to the next level. Marshall arranged for these exit videos to be mailed to some of his former followers so they could tell the world, world what happened. He knew most people would never understand, but Marshall probably hoped that a few would hear his message and follow in their own time. The tragic event itself began on March 22, 1997, and unfolded over the next three days. Marshall and his followers consumed a lethal combination of barbiturates and vodka, dying in shifts so that those who remained could arrange their bodies with care. Each was draped with a purple shroud, their clothes and other belongings packed neatly beside them. 65 year old Marshall was among the last to go, his body stretched peacefully on his bed. Dressed just like the others, they sat undisturbed for days. Days. It wasn't until an ex member received one of Marshall's farewell packages that anyone knew what had happened. He arrived at the Heaven's gate compound on March 26 and immediately called 911. The media frenzy was immediate. With 39 people dead, it was the biggest mass suicide in American history. As soon as the identities of the deceased were known, reporters banged on the family's doors for interviews. This only exacerbated the grief felt by people like Robert Mater, who was already devastated. His 27 year old daughter Gail had once dreamed of being a fashion designer. Now she'd been destroyed by a religion he couldn't understand. Besides Gail, the youngest victim was 25 year old Michael Bar Sando. He was a former paratrooper from Virginia whose family had no idea he was in a cult until they saw the news of his suicide. Other members had told their families about Heaven's Gate. 63 year old Lucy Eva Peo and 42 year old Cheryl Butcher, both IT professionals, were in contact with their loved ones. And in the years leading up to their deaths, they insisted they were healthy and happy. The remaining victims came from a variety of backgrounds, including the arts, medicine and media. But they were all united by a desire for community, purpose and greater meaning. And Marshall Applewhite took advantage of that in the most terrible way possible. In the decades since the Heaven's Gate tragedy, there have been dozens of books, movies and documentaries, all seeking to understand what happened and why cults like Heaven's Gate live on in the public imagination. Because at first glance, they just seem so strange. After all, how could anyone believe that Marshall Applewhite and Bonnie Lou Nettles were messengers like Jesus? That they'd find paradise on a ufo? Were they charmed, drugged or brainwashed? And why would they go to such extreme lengths just to prove their faith? In asking the question, the answer should already feel less strange. Ordinary people die and kill for their beliefs all the time. And sadly, this kind of emotional manipulation didn't end with Heaven's Gate. That's why we're launching a segment, Cult Watch. At the end of every cult focused episode, we'll take a few minutes to shine a light on a modern day group still active in the world today. Or in the news groups that may not make headlines yet, but should because history doesn't just repeat itself, sometimes it mutates. In Cult Watch this week, I'm highlighting the Zizians. This anarchist group got its start in Silicon Valley in 2019. Led by Jack Ziz Lasota, the Zizians follow a radical form of veganism and preach against the dangers of AI. The group, which started as an online forum, quickly became all too real. They're linked to at least six deaths, including a U.S. border Patrol agent, a landlord, and two 2 Zizian associated individuals across several states from 2022 to 2025. Jack Ziz Lasota is currently in jail and was indicted on the possession of illegal firearms in June 2025. But even though Jack is gone, the Zizians aren't like Heaven's Gate. Decades before, these kinds of groups prey on vulnerable people, people at their core. The victims of Bonnie Lou Nettles and Marshall Applewhite were lost souls aching for a sense of belonging. In exchange for that, they traded their identities, their freedom, and their lives. Thanks so much for listening. I'm Vanessa Richardson and this is Conspiracy Theories, Cults and Crimes. Come back next week. 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Released on August 11, 2025
In this exclusive first listen of the new Crime House Original Podcast, Carter Roy introduces listeners to an intriguing new series titled "Conspiracy Theories, Cults, & Crimes." Premiering every Wednesday, the show delves into the most shocking crimes, deadly ideologies, and secret plots that have captivated the public's imagination.
Carter Roy [00:02]: "From mass suicides and political assassinations to secret government experiments and UFO cults, you'll hear about infamous cases like Jonestown and JFK, as well as hidden horrors like the Octopus Murders and Starvation Heights."
Vanessa Richardson takes center stage to explore one of the most notorious cults in American history: Heaven's Gate. The story begins with the unlikely meeting of Marshall Applewhite and Bonnie Lou Nettles in Houston, Texas, in 1972. Both individuals felt alienated from mainstream society, leading them to seek deeper meaning through New Age spirituality and fringe beliefs.
Marshall Applewhite, raised in a devout Presbyterian household, struggled with his bisexuality and eventually left his academic and religious pursuits in search of purpose. Similarly, Bonnie Lou Nettles, a nurse from a Baptist family, turned to astrology and theosophy to find answers beyond her suburban life.
Vanessa Richardson [17:18]: "Bonnie and Marshall saw themselves as messengers from a level above human. A heavenly realm accessible only to those willing to undergo total transformation."
In 1972, Applewhite and Nettles formed the group Human Individual Metamorphosis, believing they were destined to guide select individuals to a higher state of existence. Their teachings blended Christianity, New Age mysticism, and science fiction, promoting the idea of ascending to heaven via a UFO.
Vanessa Richardson [05:15]: "They believed that the earth was on the brink of destruction. If someone wanted to be saved, they needed to leave all of their human attachments behind."
Despite initial enthusiasm, the group struggled with organization and resources. As they attempted to expand, internal conflicts and logistical issues led to a decline in membership. By the mid-1970s, the leadership recognized the need for stricter controls to maintain their vision.
Vanessa Richardson [29:00]: "Bonnie and Marshall continued to maintain their rules about sex, drugs, and alcohol. They allowed their members to work odd jobs, but they couldn't have permanent careers."
The climax of the Heaven's Gate narrative centers on the mass suicide that occurred in March 1997. Influenced by the appearance of the Hale-Bopp comet, Applewhite convinced his followers that their souls would ascend to a celestial spacecraft trailing the comet, leading to the death of 39 members, including Applewhite himself.
Vanessa Richardson [31:03]: "The tragic event itself began on March 22, 1997, and unfolded over the next three days. Marshall and his followers consumed a lethal combination of barbiturates and vodka, dying in shifts so that those who remained could arrange their bodies with care."
The Heaven's Gate mass suicide remains the largest in American history, leaving families devastated and sparking widespread media coverage. The event highlighted the profound impact of charismatic leadership and the vulnerability of individuals seeking belonging and purpose.
Vanessa Richardson [31:03]: "All of them were united by a desire for community, purpose, and greater meaning. And Marshall Applewhite took advantage of that in the most terrible way possible."
As part of the new podcast series, Cult Watch is launched to shed light on contemporary groups that pose potential dangers. In the inaugural segment, Vanessa Richardson profiles the Zizians, an anarchist group that emerged in Silicon Valley in 2019.
Vanessa Richardson [31:03]: "In Cult Watch this week, I'm highlighting the Zizians. This anarchist group got its start in Silicon Valley in 2019. Led by Jack Ziz Lasota, the Zizians follow a radical form of veganism and preach against the dangers of AI."
The Zizians are linked to multiple deaths and are currently under legal scrutiny, illustrating the enduring presence of cult-like organizations in modern society.
This first episode of "Conspiracy Theories, Cults, & Crimes" offers a compelling exploration of Heaven's Gate, providing listeners with an in-depth understanding of how ordinary individuals can be drawn into extreme belief systems with tragic outcomes. The introduction of Cult Watch promises ongoing examinations of current groups, emphasizing the importance of awareness and education in preventing similar tragedies.
Vanessa Richardson [31:03]: "Ordinary people die and kill for their beliefs all the time. And sadly, this kind of emotional manipulation didn't end with Heaven's Gate."
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