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Foreign. This is Crime House. First impressions are everything. They have a huge impact on how we perceive others and set the tone for the beginning of any relationship. If you're not impressed by someone at first glance, that opinion can be hard to change. But if you find them charming and likable, you're much more inclined to trust them. Believe what they say, take their word for truth without question. That's what serial killer John George Hay relied on to lure in his victims. On the surface, John was a gregarious, likable gentleman, fun to be around and worthy of unshakable trust. In reality, he was a vicious murderer preying on his unsuspecting victims in order to steal their money. And when he met a wealthy widow named Olive Duran Deacon, John was under the impression that nobody would care if she vanished without a trace. He was wrong. People's lives are like a story. Beginning, a middle and an end. But you don't always know which part you're on. Sometimes the final chapter arrives far too soon. And we don't always get to know the real ending. I'm Carter Roy and this is True Crime, a Crime House original. Every Tuesday, I'll explore the story of a notorious murder or murders. I'll be bringing awareness to stories that need to be heard with a focus on those who are impacted. At Crime House, we want to express our gratitude to you, our community, for making this possible. Please support us by rating, reviewing and following Murder True Crime Stories wherever you get your podcasts and to enhance your Murder True Crime Stories listening experience, subscribe to Crime House plus on Apple Podcasts. You'll get every episode ad free. And instead of having to wait for each episode of a two part series, you'll get access to both at once, plus exciting bonus content. This is the first of two episodes on Olive Duran Deacon, the final victim of serial killer John George Hay. Today I'll introduce you to Olive and explain how she crossed paths with John Hay in 1949, dive into what led her to become the target of a serial killer, and the disturbing string of murders John committed in the lead up to Olive's death. Then in next week's Part two, I'll bring you along as detectives narrow in on John and discover how deep his crimes really went. All that and more coming up. Yeah, sure thing. Hey, you sold that car yet?
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Carter Roy
With its proximity to the Royal palace and cultural sites, Kensington has been one of London's most prestigious neighborhoods for over 200 years. This was certainly the case in 1949 when wealthy Londoners flocked to the area. Many of them owned luxury homes or apartments, but others chose to reside in hotels, including one named the Onslow Court Hotel. Some of these residents were older and wanted help with daily tasks. Or maybe they didn't want to deal with the hassle of managing a household. For one of these reasons or another, 69 year old Olive Durand Deacon chose to live at the Onslow Court Hotel. Technically her name was Henrietta Helen Olivia Robart Durand Deacon, but most people just knew her as Olive or Mrs. Duran Deacon, the wealthy widow of a wartime hero back in the day. Olive was quite the woman. She was an active suffragette fighting for women's voting rights. Once she'd even thrown a brick through a window and landed herself in a jail cell overnight. But that was back then. Now Olive spent her days in the Tudor lounge of the Onslow Court Hotel, sipping tea and gossiping with friends. But recently she'd noticed a new face popping up around the hotel. Olive learned his name was John Hay. From the moment Olive met John, she could tell he didn't come from money. With his northern accent and loud clothing, it seemed like John was desperately trying to fit in with the Onslow Court crowd. And yet he was a well mannered young man who Olive found interesting. The highest compliment she could give. But like so much of John's Persona, the respectable gentleman image was all an act. John Hay was born 40 years earlier on July 24, 1909. He grew up in the small village in Yorkshire, England and was the only child of Emily and John Hay Sr. John's childhood was defined by his family's Religious beliefs. The Hays were puritanical members of the extremely conservative Plymouth Brethren. The Bible was the be all, end all for them. John Hayes Sr. Believed the outside world was evil and full of sin. He would do anything to protect his family from the awful temptations that lurked beyond their gates. To that end, he built a 10 foot fence around their property to keep everyone else out and to keep his wife and young son in. With such a paranoid father, John's childhood was defined by fear. Fear about sinning, fear about not fitting in, fear about not reaching heaven. In fact, Hay Sr. Told his son that the blue blemish on his head was the mark of the devil himself as a punishment for sinning earlier in his life. And if John Jr. Wasn't careful, he would get the same mark. And for a long time, John followed his father's strict rules. Of course, that wasn't hard to do when he was confined to his family's fenced in property. But once John enrolled at Queen Elizabeth Grammar School in Wakefield and then eventually Wakefield Cathedral for high school, his attitude began to change. Teachers called him mischievous and said he liked testing boundaries. At first he would do little things like tell white lies. Before long, those small fibs turned into elaborate ruses to cover up his tracks. John would tell more tall tales. But to John's surprise, no blue blemish appeared on his skin. At that point, he either started to believe his father had lied to him or he just thought he was above reproach. Invincible, in fact, he could sin however he wanted and nothing bad would happen to him. While John may have been a troublemaker, he was also a pretty good student. At Wakefield Cathedral. He became interested in engineering. After graduation. He worked as an apprentice at an auto engineering firm. But John quickly realized he didn't like all the physical labor it involved. So after a year, he left and shifted to sales and advertising. But John found the work boring. He wanted to push the boundaries to see what he was capable of getting away with. So in 1930, when John was 21, he decided to steal from his company. He didn't cover his tracks very well though. When money disappeared from the company's petty cash reserve, John immediately fell under suspicion. His boss wasn't able to prove John was the thief, but he was still fired. Rather than learn from his mistakes, John doubled down. He saw a newspaper article about a fraudulent car selling scheme and thought to himself he could pull something like that off. So he started forging car documents. In simple terms, here's what he did. First, John would find an auto garage that had financial problems and offer to buy some of its cars on behalf of clients. He told the garages he would pay in installments. Then John would forge the signatures of those fake clients and put the cars in their fake names. Then after one or two small payments, he would go and sell the cars in full before disappearing into the wind. At this point, John was making good money, especially from the car scheme. He could finally support himself, which must have been a relief, because this whole time he was still living with his parents in Yorkshire. And when he was home, he had to abide by their rules, including attending Plymouth Brethren assemblies. John had sinned and sinned again, and frankly, he liked it. Now he was ready to pull away from the church and his parents. He decided it was time to move out and start his own family. It's not clear how they met, but in 1934, 24 year old John married 21 year old Beatrice Hamer. They moved into their own place in Yorkshire. But without his father looking over his shoulder, John didn't have anyone to keep him in check. And it wasn't long before the authorities caught up with him.
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Carter Roy
After launching a scheme selling stolen cars, John George Hay was making more money than he'd ever seen before. With the influx of new cash, John decided it was time to move out of his parents home in Yorkshire, England and start his own family. In July 1934, 24 year old John married 21 year old Beatrice Hamer. But he wasn't exactly a sophisticated criminal and in November, just four months after marrying Beatrice, he got caught for his car swindling scheme. He was arrested and sentenced to 15 months in prison for fraud and forgery. While John was incarcerated, Beatrice gave birth to a baby girl, but she had no intention of staying with John and no plans of raising a child on her own. Beatrice put her baby up for adoption and then left John altogether. In 1936, after finishing his sentence, 26 year old John decided to start fresh and there was nowhere better for a new start than the big city. That year John packed his bags and moved to London. Only he didn't have a job or a way to support himself. That's when he saw a job posting in the newspaper. A man named William McSwan needed a chauffeur. William, who went by Mac, was also 26 years old and hailed from Scotland. His father owned some amusement arcades and Mac managed them. He also helped maintain his family's various properties. When Mac met John, he liked him right away. John was well dressed and well groomed, exactly the type of respectable gentleman one would want as a chauffeur. So Mac hired him. In addition to his chauffeur duties, John helped Mac maintain the pinball machines at the arcades and collect rent for the McSwan properties. Mac thought his new hire was charming and fun too. When they weren't working. They would drink at a local pub called the Goat. Eventually, John moved on from his chauffeur work. It's not entirely clear why, but knowing John, he probably just got bored of it. Working for Mac was fun, but an honest day's work was still a lot more tiring than the scams John had grown accustomed to running. After a pleasant parting of ways with Mac, John started posing as a lawyer. Then he sold fraudulent stock shares. Once again, John's carelessness got him in trouble. This time he aroused suspicion From a typo on his letterhead, he mistakenly left out the D in Guilford, Surrey. That was enough for one of his clients to look into him and learn that John wasn't who he said he was. The client reported him to the police and John found himself back behind bars for fraud. This time he was sentenced to four years in prison. That gave him plenty of time to think about what he'd done and how to do it better in the future. John determined that his biggest problem was people. Every time he got caught, it was because someone he'd tried to defraud ratted him out. If John could just find a way to get rid of them, the problem would be solved. It seems like that's when John started to think about murder. He quickly became fascinated by a French murderer named Georges Alexandre Sauret, who killed two people, then disposed of their bodies using sulfuric acid. This is a colorless, yellowish liquid that's used in everything from explosives to batteries. It's very toxic and can cause severe burns. According to reports, John decided to test this method out himself. His work duty was in the prison's repair shop, which kept a stock of sulfuric acid. John collected a few jars of it and when nobody was around, he dropped dead mice into the jars. Then he waited to see how long it took for the mice's bodies to fully dissolve. It was about 30 minutes. From there, he calculated how long it would take if he weren't dealing with mice, but human bodies instead. After serving his four year sentence, 34 year old John Hay was released from prison in 1943. He was determined to use what he'd learned in his experiments to never end up behind bars again. After his release, John found work as an accountant with an engineering firm and rented an apartment. He knew it was important to keep up appearances. Plus, this way he could make a little bit of money while he prepared to return to a life of crime. After securing his job at the accounting firm, John stumbled into his old drinking haunt, the Goat. Some say this was random. Others say he went there for a very specific reason. Because he knew he'd run into his old friend and Boss, William Mac McSwan. Sure enough, Mac was at the Goat and he and John struck up a conversation. Mac apparently had no idea that John had spent the better part of the last four years in prison. He found his old buddy as charming as ever. The two rekindled their friendship, and over the next few weeks, they went back to the Goat several more times. Mac even introduced John to his parents, Donald and Amy. Mack was still collecting rent on their London properties, living the good life. John wanted what his friend had. He figured if he got rid of Mac, he could then forge fake documents and take his assets. So John decided it was time to put his plan into action. On September 6, 1944, 35 year old John rented out a basement workshop at 79 Gloucester Road in Kensington. He told the landlord he needed the space to work on his inventions. Once the space was secured, John called in a favor with an engineer he knew. He asked the engineer to get him a few barrels of sulfuric acid. It doesn't seem like the engineer asked any questions about why he needed it. He just went ahead and got John what he asked for. Three days after he moved into the workshop, John went out drinking with Mac at the Goat. Afterward, he invited Mac back to the workshop. According to John's later confession, he hit Mac over the head with a lead pipe. While his friend's back was turned, Mac fell to the ground, dead. John stripped him of his watch and valuables, then dropped Mac's body into a 40 gallon drum filled with sulfuric acid. Two days later, John returned to his workshop to check on the status of the body. It had almost completely dissolved. Just as he'd anticipated. He went ahead and drained the acidic sludge down the drain. John had gotten away with murder. But there was one thing he hadn't considered. People have loved ones. Not long after Mac's murder, his parents, Donald and Amy, came to John asking if he'd seen their son. John thought on his feet. He told them Mac was hiding out in Scotland to avoid being drafted to fight in World War II. It was a believable lie. Five years earlier, Mac had registered as a conscientious objector. Someone who refuses to serve in the military due to their moral, ethical or religious beliefs. John even sent Mac's parents fake postcards from Scotland, pretending to be their son. That was enough proof for Donald and Amy McSwan. As far as they knew, Mack was safe and out of Harm's way. Meanwhile, John was systematically emptying Mac's bank accounts, forging his old friend's signature to take control of his money and properties. Several months into 1945, it looked like the war was coming to an end. But Mac was nowhere to be found. Donald and Amy wondered why their son wasn't returning to London. He had no reason to hide. And yet they hadn't heard from him in a while. John's lies were catching up to him. That's when he realized he had two he could come clean or go all in and kill Donald and Amy too. In July of 1945, almost a year after murdering Mac, John told the McSwans that their son had finally come back to London. He said Mack was still nervous about getting caught for evading the draft, so he was hunkering down in John's workshop. But they could come see him if they wanted to. Of course. Donald and Amy said yes. They took the train and met John at the station. John said he'd bring them to his workshop one at a time. That way they'd attract less attention. The McSwans agreed and John took Donald to the workshop first. There, John killed him the same way he killed Mac, with a blow to the head. Then John went back for Amy and did the same thing to her. Like with Mac, John put both of their bodies in acid, then dumped the dissolved remains down the drain. Using his forgery skills, John took everything the McSwans had. He stole their pension checks and sold their properties, bringing in between five and six thousand pounds for the entire fortune. Back then, that was a big chunk of change. For context, the average home at the time cost a little over 500 pounds. With his new fortune, John decided it was time to upgrade from his rented apartment. He wanted to be somewhere more upscale, surrounded by wealthy people. He set his sights on the Onslow Court Hotel in Kensington. He moved into room 404 and enjoyed the life of luxury he always wanted. He told the hotel staff and guests he was a successful businessman. But that couldn't have been further from the truth. In reality, on top of being a murderer, he was a serious gambler who spent his money left and right. By 1947, two years after killing the McSwans, 38 year old John was once again looking at a dwindling bank account. If he wanted to stay at the Onslow Court Hotel and keep financing his lavish lifestyle, he needed to find another victim. In August 1947, John went to see a house that was for sale. The sellers were 49 year old Dr. Archibald Henderson and his wife, 39 year old Rose. Of course John couldn't actually afford the property. He told them he wasn't interested in purchasing it. But he did want to get to know them better. The Hendersons were a lovely couple and it seems like John genuinely enjoyed spending time with them. And they were very wealthy. Archibald was a widower and his first wife had left him the rest of her 20,000 pound inheritance in her will. One day in February 1948, John invited Archibald over to his workshop under the guise of showing him an invention. By now John had moved into a new space in Crawley, about an hour away from the hotel in Kensington. When Archibald got there, John shot him in the back of the head. Then John contacted Rose. Feigning panic, he told her Archibald had fallen ill and said she'd better come quick. She rushed over to the workshop only for John to shoot her too. Just like before, John put the Hendersons bodies into the 40 gallon drums of acid. Then he forged their signatures and sold all of their possessions for another £8,000 or so. But it didn't last him long. Within a year, John was once again desperate for an influx of cash. That's when he set his sights on the wealthy widow at the onslow Court Hotel, Mrs. Olive Doran Deakin. Tragically, Olive would become John's next victim, and his last.
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40 year old John Hay had committed at least five murders, dissolving his victims in sulfuric acid. So he could steal their fortunes, but he had a gambling problem and an insatiable appetite for luxury. So within a year of killing Dr. Archibald Henderson and his wife Rose, John was already looking for his next victim. That's when he narrowed in on 69 year old Olive Duran. Deacon John would watch Olive as she socialized around the Onslow Court Hotel in Kensington, where they both lived. Each night for dinner, Olive donned a new gown and draped her neck with heavy jewels. She reportedly wore the equivalent of 500 pounds worth of jewelry at once. Remember, that's how much the average home in London cost at the time. John had spoken to Olive here and there, and he knew her living situation was far superior to his. He paid about five pounds a week for his room. Olive, on the other hand, paid more than twice that. Just over £12 a week for her double room on the first floor. To put that into perspective, that was about one and a half times more than the weekly wage of an average worker. John also probably assumed Olive was an easier target than his other victims. She was a widow, so no husband to worry about. And although Olive had a sister, she didn't talk much about the rest of her family. She had friends at the hotel, but if any of them noticed she disappeared, John figured he could cook up a believable lie about her whereabouts. But if John was going to go after Olive's fortune, he needed to act sooner rather than later. He was late on rent. He'd overdrafted his bank account and couldn't write any more checks without them bouncing. Hotel management was on him to pay, and he knew he had a matter of weeks, if not days, before he was out on the streets. He had to figure out some way to get Olive out of the hotel and into his workshop. Luckily for him, he didn't have to work too hard because Olive came to him every Monday. Olive had lunch with her friend Gwendolyn Biren on this particular Monday, February 14, 1949. They were having lunch when John passed by their table and Olive invited him to sit down. Olive didn't normally interrupt her lunches like that, but she had something she wanted to share with John and it couldn't wait. She pulled a small box out of her coat pocket and gave it to him. Inside there were artificial fingernails made of plastic. Olive explained to John that artificial nails were the newest trend and she wondered if there might be a business opportunity there. John agreed and promised to meet her in the lounge later to discuss it further. Later that day, John met with Olive. He listened intently as she pitched him on the acrylic nails. She wondered if he could make and market the products she had in mind. John told her it was a great idea, but in an effort to not seem too greedy, he told her that he would think about it and come back to her with an answer soon. In reality, John just wanted some time to prepare. He needed to restock his barrels of acid. So he called up his old engineering friend, the same one who'd helped him get the acid before John brought the acid back to his workshop. With everything in place, he went back to Olive and told her that he was interested in partnering with her. She should come down to his workshop to talk about the details. On Friday, February 18, 1949, 40 year old John picked 69 year old Olive up in his car and drove her out to his workshop in Crawley. She wore a Persian lamb coat, an expensive dress and handbag, and her standard plethora of jewels. For Olive, it was pretty much the same thing she wore every day. But for John, it was an opportunity. He was prepared to kill Olive and take everything she had. By the end of the day, John Hay had claimed his next victim. He thought everything had gone according to plan and he could spend Olive's fortune as he wished. He had no idea that his horrific killing spree was about to come to an end. And although it was too late to save Olive, her legacy was about to save many others. Thanks so much for listening. I'm Carter Roy and this is True Crime Stories. Come back next week for part two of our series on Olive Duran Deacon Murder. True Crime Stories is a Crime House original. Here at Crime House, we want to thank each and every one of you for your support. If you like what you heard today, reach out on social media, crime house on TikTok and Instagram. Don't forget to rate, review and follow Murder True Crime Stories wherever you get your podcasts and to enhance your listening experience. Subscribe to Crime House plus on Apple Podcasts. You'll get every episode of Murder True Crime Stories ad free along with early access to each thrilling two part series and exciting bonus content. We'll be back next Tuesday. True Crime Stories, a Crime House original podcast powered by Pave Studios, is executive produced by Max Cutler. This episode of True Crime Stories was produced and directed by Ron Shapiro, written by Alex Burns, edited by Alex Benedon, Fact checked by Sarah Tardif, sound designed by Russell Nash and included production assistance from Sarah Carroll. True Crime Stories is hosted by Carter Roy.
Murder: True Crime Stories – Episode: SOLVED: Olive Durand-Deacon 1
Release Date: January 21, 2025
Introduction
In the gripping first installment of the two-part series on Olive Durand-Deacon, host Carter Roy delves deep into the sinister life of serial killer John George Hay. This episode meticulously unpacks Hay's calculated descent into murder, culminating in the tragic death of Olive Durand-Deacon—a wealthy widow whose life was brutally cut short. Through detailed narratives and compelling insights, Carter Roy sheds light on the dark motivations and methods that defined Hay's spree.
John George Hay: From Charismatic Gentleman to Serial Killer
The episode opens with an exploration of first impressions and their deceptive nature, setting the stage for understanding John George Hay's manipulative facade.
"Believe what they say, take their word for truth without question. That's what serial killer John George Hay relied on to lure in his victims."
— Carter Roy [00:00]
Hay's charm and likable demeanor masked his true intent: a ruthless predator targeting unsuspecting individuals to steal their fortunes. Born on July 24, 1909, in Yorkshire, England, Hay's upbringing was heavily influenced by his father's strict Plymouth Brethren beliefs, fostering a childhood steeped in fear and paranoia.
Early Criminal Ventures and Escalation
Hay's initial foray into crime began with minor frauds and escalated rapidly. After dabbling in auto engineering, he shifted to sales and advertising, where his penchant for deceit emerged.
"John would tell more tall tales. But to John's surprise, no blue blemish appeared on his skin."
— Carter Roy [04:18]
This incident, where Hay's fabricated lies went unchecked, emboldened him to believe he was invincible. His first major crime involved a fraudulent car-selling scheme, which, despite initial success, led to his first imprisonment for fraud and forgery in November 1934.
Incarceration and the Birth of a Killer
During his time in prison, Hay's criminal ingenuity intensified. Fascinated by the methods of French murderer Georges Alexandre Sauret, who used sulfuric acid to dispose of bodies, Hay conducted gruesome experiments.
"He collected a few jars of it and when nobody was around, he dropped dead mice into the jars. Then he waited to see how long it took for the mice's bodies to fully dissolve."
— Carter Roy [11:48]
These experiments solidified his resolve to eliminate threats permanently, marking a significant turning point in his homicidal trajectory.
Reintegration and Renewed Criminal Activity
Upon his release in 1943, Hay attempted to appear legitimate by securing a job as a chauffeur for William "Mac" McSwan. However, his inherent distrust and greed soon resurfaced, leading to Mac's murder and the subsequent disposal of his body in acid.
"John had a gambling problem and an insatiable appetite for luxury."
— Carter Roy [29:31]
Hay's pattern became clear: befriending his victims, gaining their trust, and then systematically eliminating them to seize their wealth.
The Target: Olive Durand-Deacon
By 1949, John Hay set his sights on Olive Durand-Deacon, a 69-year-old wealthy widow residing at the prestigious Onslow Court Hotel in Kensington. Olive's affluent lifestyle and relative isolation made her an attractive target for Hay's next scheme.
"John also probably assumed Olive was an easier target than his other victims. She was a widow, so no husband to worry about."
— Carter Roy [29:31]
Hay meticulously planned Olive's abduction, leveraging their interactions over business proposals to lure her into his workshop in Crawley, where he successfully murdered her on February 18, 1949.
Key Events Leading to Olive's Murder
Initial Encounter: On February 14, 1949, Olive approached Hay with a business opportunity involving artificial fingernails, sparking Hay's interest in partnering with her.
"Olive invited him to sit down. Olive pulled a small box out of her coat pocket and gave it to him."
— Carter Roy [29:31]
The Trap: Hay arranged a meeting at his workshop under the pretense of discussing their partnership, a setting he had prepared with barrels of sulfuric acid.
The Murder: On February 18, Hay abducted Olive, murdered her with a lead pipe, and disposed of her body using acid—a method he had perfected in previous crimes.
Aftermath: Believing he had successfully concealed Olive's disappearance, Hay began to exploit her assets, unaware that Olive's legacy would soon bring his crimes to light.
Notable Quotes and Insights
"People's lives are like a story. Beginning, a middle and an end. But you don't always know which part you're on."
— Carter Roy [00:00]
"John determined that his biggest problem was people. Every time he got caught, it was because someone he'd tried to defraud ratted him out."
— Carter Roy [11:48]
These quotes emphasize the psychological manipulation Hay employed and his evolving motivations from financial gain to eliminating perceived threats permanently.
Conclusion and Teaser for Part Two
As the episode concludes, Carter Roy hints at the impending unraveling of Hay's reign of terror. Olive Durand-Deacon's murder sets the stage for a deeper investigation into how law enforcement eventually brought John George Hay to justice.
"Although it was too late to save Olive, her legacy was about to save many others."
— Carter Roy [29:31]
Listeners are left eager for the next episode, which promises to reveal the detective work that ultimately solves Olive's murder and exposes the full extent of Hay's crimes.
Production Credits
This episode of True Crime Stories was produced and directed by Ron Shapiro, written by Alex Burns, edited by Alex Benedon, fact-checked by Sarah Tardif, with sound design by Russell Nash and production assistance from Sarah Carroll. Executive production was handled by Max Cutler.
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