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Sorry.
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Peyton Moreland
You'Re listening to an Ono Media podcast. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the podcast. This is Murder with my husband. I'm Peyton Moreland.
Garrett Moreland
And I'm Garrett Moreland.
Mundo
And he's the husband.
Garrett Moreland
I'm the husband.
Peyton Moreland
Sorry, is very early in the morning, and I just woke up.
Garrett Moreland
Peyton and I are doing an early recording. Don't ask us why, but here we are. It's probably hopefully early morning when you guys are listening to this, so you can join us for those watching on YouTube. I know my hair still looks funny. Gonna be a while before things get back to normal. And that's okay. Just wanted to let everybody know that. What do you got, babe?
Peyton Moreland
Oh, you know, just so we love you and we're ready to hear your 10 seconds.
Garrett Moreland
You're jumping right into it. Peter and I decided to cook dinner for Valentine's last night. We did have reservations at a restaurant. We canceled those for a couple reasons, but one of them being Peyton burnt her face off, but we canceled them. And we cooked steak, asparagus, broccoli, mashed potatoes. Not gonna lie, my steak turned out pretty dang good, huh? It was fun. That's what we did. Other than that, there hasn't been anything else too crazy going on. I've been playing pickleball. I've been trying to get my butt back to the gym, but it hasn't happened yet. I've been itching my head because my head's been super itchy. And that's all. Oh, by the way, to anyone that sees us in public and says hi to us, come say hi to us. Some people message us and they're like, I saw you, but didn't know if I should say hi. Say hi to us. We love it. We don't care. We just love meeting you guys. Yeah, that's it. Not trying to, like, toot our own horn or anything and be like, oh, my gosh, people come up to us. I'm just saying, if you see us, please come say hi to us. We love saying hi to you guys.
Peyton Moreland
All right, our sources for this episode are oxygen.com espn.com the sun.com New York post.com ajc.com sportskeeda.com the independent.com kron.com your conroe news.com and cbs news.com all right, if you found out somebody wanted you dead, like, was really going to kill you, who would be the first person that you told?
Mundo
Probably the police, right?
Garrett Moreland
Oh, no.
Mundo
I know.
Peyton Moreland
Because when you don't have any proof.
Garrett Moreland
No, I would tell you first.
Peyton Moreland
Aside from that, it's a little hard for the authorities to make any move on that.
Mundo
Like, if you just go to the.
Peyton Moreland
Cops and go, this person wants to kill me, but you don't have any.
Mundo
Proof, they're like, hey, they could offer you some advice.
Peyton Moreland
But until you have concrete evidence that this person wants you gone, you're either on your own to collect that evidence, or you just have to wait and see how it all plays out. Well, Ramon Sosa wasn't a sit around and wait kind of guy. When he learned his estranged wife wanted him out of the picture for good, he took matters into his own hands. And even then, he still ended up in a shallow grave with a gunshot wound to the head.
Garrett Moreland
Oh, my gosh. I thought, okay.
Peyton Moreland
But how he got there was completely unexpected. So let's unravel this story. We are in Carolina, Puerto Rico.
Garrett Moreland
So you're telling me that throughout the entire episode, I have no hope that he's going to live?
Peyton Moreland
Yeah.
Garrett Moreland
Okay.
Peyton Moreland
So that is where Ramon Sosa called home for the early years of his life. And as the son of a professional boxer, Ramon took an interest in the sport pretty young. Going to the same gym where his father trained, Ramon got to see the stamina and self discipline that went into boxing, and he fell in love with it quickly. At the age of seven, he began training with some of Puerto Rico's top boxers. And for the next 10 years, he stuck with it. By the time Ramon had turned 17, he was a force to be reckoned with. He had gone pro and earned himself the nickname the Puerto Rican Express. I imagine, for how quickly he knocked out his opponents was that was what that nickname was for. But eventually, Ramon became a bit disillusioned with the sport. He started to feel like he was nothing more than a cash cow. A piece of meat is what he called it when he realized people only cared about making a buck off of him. So that's when Ramon decided to take a step back from the sport. He went to school, he began focusing on his studies, and then he met a woman. He fell in love, and he started a family. They had three kids, Mitchell, Chris, and Mia. And eventually they all moved to Houston, Texas, a place where Ramon had spent some of his earlier years and had fond memories of. But even in America, he never stopped feeling that call of the ring. So instead of lacing up his own gloves, Ramon started coaching other professional boxers around the Houston area. Okay, he's moved to America. He's married, he has kids, and he's graduated from boxing. Now he's going to coach. And if you were in the boxing game in Texas, there's a good chance you wanted Ramon literally in your corner of the rink. And his career as a trainer was really starting to take off. Ramon was flying all over the country with his boxers, attending parties at the Play Boy Mansion, rubbing elbows with Mike Tyson.
Mundo
This guy knew what he was doing.
Peyton Moreland
Which might have been part of the problem for Ramon, because once again, he.
Mundo
Started to see the ugly side of.
Peyton Moreland
The sport, the part that's driven by greed and the need for fame. And Ramon didn't want that for himself. So again, he took a step back. He began training amateurs and kids from gangs or troubled backgrounds who were looking for direction in their life.
Garrett Moreland
Money man.
Peyton Moreland
Ramon opened up his own gym, which helped support his family. Even set them up pretty nicely when it started to rake in the cash. But by this point, Ramon's first marriage was no longer working. So he and his wife divorced around the year 2000. And for a while, Ramon wasn't sure if he would ever find that kind of love again. That is, until 2007 when 40 year old Ramon went to a nightclub with some friends and everything changed. And I'm not judging, but a nightclub at 40 sounds like my actual worst nightmare.
Garrett Moreland
Okay. I feel like Peyton and I, I.
Peyton Moreland
Can'T even nightclub in my 20s.
Garrett Moreland
Yeah. I'm not gonna lie. Peyton and I went to Vegas and we tried. We went to bed.
Mundo
Yeah, it's so late.
Garrett Moreland
We went to bed. We couldn't. I couldn't do it. Couldn't possibly do it. We just, we just went to bed instead. Tell me what you want. But sitting at home watching some tv, relaxing is the thing to do.
Peyton Moreland
Even in the completely packed club, Ramon spotted her almost immediately across the dance floor. The Latin beauty would meet Ramon's eyeline and quickly look away. And then over the course of the night, the two found themselves inching closer on the dance floor until she stepped on Ramon's toe with her six inch heels. If you asked Ramon, that wasn't an accident, but it was destiny. He asked her if she wanted to dance, and the rest was history. Ramon wasted no time falling head over heels for this new woman, Maria Delore Days. But Lulu was what she went by.
Mundo
Luckily for me.
Peyton Moreland
Okay. She was originally from Mexico and like Ramon, was also a divorced parent. She had a son and a daughter who had come with her to America on a visitor's visa. And this was something that only drew Ramon in further. At first, Lulu seemed to be the hard working mother and doting girlfriend Ramon always wanted. She cleaned houses and worked as a masseuse to support her two kids. And when she wasn't tending to her clients or her children, she was fawning over Ramon, cooking him dinner, giving him massages, waiting on him hand and foot. Which was probably why Ramon put a ring on it in 2009, on March 15, after being engaged for a little under four months, they walked down the aisle together. But that day, Lulu's mother whispered something to Ramon. She said, lulu is your problem now. And she wasn't joking. Ramon thought she was joking, wished she was joking. But some part of him already feared there were going to be problems, problems he was already sweeping under the rug.
Mundo
So Ramon's teenage daughter, Mia, saw the ugly side of Lulu pretty early on. She could sense that Lulu didn't want to get to know her or her siblings at all. She said it seemed like Lulu had no plans to actually become their stepmother, or even a friend, for that matter. And even worse, Lulu had started driving a wedge between him and his kids. They were seeing their father less and less as Lulu complained about how much money he was spending on them. Eventually, things got so tense that Lulu didn't even want his kids at their wedding. Mia and her siblings found out secondhand that their father and Lulu had gotten married without even inviting them, which would break any kid's heart. But now there was no getting rid of this woman. It seemed like she was going to be in their lives forever.
Unknown
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Mundo
Especially when Ramon went into business with her the following year.
Garrett Moreland
It's actually interesting how many step parents are wicked.
Mundo
Yeah.
Garrett Moreland
Like, I know some of you listening right now have some wicked step parents, and I'm sorry, I. That sucks. I'm truly. I don't understand how people can be like that.
Peyton Moreland
Well, Lulu's a.
Mundo
Obviously a different story, but I've been listening to a couple podcasts that kind of have wicked step parents, and the stepparents talk about it in the podcast, and it's like they have reasonings, you know, they were selfish or, I don't know, reasonings that don't make sense. And it's like, then don't get married.
Garrett Moreland
Bad person.
Mundo
Yeah. Like there's a innocent kid involved in this.
Garrett Moreland
Yeah.
Mundo
So Ramon goes into business with Lulu the following year. In 2010, Ramon opened up his second gym with Lulu as his business partner. They shot commercials together promoting the new business, smiling side by side. And like Ramon's first gym, this was another hit, with about 200 members a month. Suddenly, the couple was raking in about $20,000 a month in profit, they were able to buy a brand new house, a motorcycle, new cars. And for a while, aside from the situation with the kids, things seemed to be going pretty nicely for the couple. But around 2015, cracks started to appear on the surface. Lulu was going to friends to complain about Ramon, saying she was doing all the work around the gym and Ramon was just kicking back. The more money that came in, the more issues the couple started to have and the more ugly and drawn out their fights became. But over time, Lulu's claims got worse. She told her friends that Ramon had actually gotten physical with her once or twice. That after a night of drinking, he.
Peyton Moreland
Grabbed her or pushed her.
Mundo
At one point, Lulu even claimed Ramon had forced himself on her without consent. Now, when Ramon heard this, he denied all of it. He said he never did anything like that and that Lulu might have just been looking for a way out of their marriage by painting it to be worse than it was. Which was clear by March of 2015.
Peyton Moreland
Because Lulu did file for divorce.
Mundo
But right after that, things only got uglier between the two. Rather than just walk away with the few good years behind them, Lulu started dragging Ramon's name through the mud. She called the people who ran some of the non profits Ramon worked with, said he was embezzling money from their charities. She also began telling people at the gym, including other members, Ramon was abusive towards her. This is despite the fact that Ramon's daughter Mia and his mother said they had never once seen Ramon get violent with anyone. So she's tarnishing his name to people who matter, and everyone else in his life is like, no, he's not like this. But that was all many of those clients needed to hear. To cancel their memberships. Because of Lulu's bad mouthing, the gym was kind of spiraling. It was losing money, okay? And to make matters worse, Ramon noticed what little money they did have in the gym's accounts seemed to be going missing and had made its way into Lulu's bank account, meaning Lulu was skimming cash from the company they shared, and she used it to help pay for a new divorce attorney. But apparently, that cash still wasn't enough. Lulu wanted to walk away with it all. Her green card, the cash, the house, the business. She wasn't going to let anything stand in her way, least of all Ramon. So Lulu decides I deserve everything in this divorce. He's gonna give me the business. He's gonna give me the house, all the cars, everything.
Garrett Moreland
She's just. She. I mean, she's just stealing at this point, like she doesn't really care.
Mundo
Well, she's open about it. Probably a little too open because in the summer of 2015, one of Ramon and Lulu's good friends, who was known only as Mundo, overheard Lulu having a conversation with her 16 year old daughter in the gym's office. Now, Mundo caught a few big pieces of that conversation that really put a pit into his stomach. Okay. Mundo hung around the gym, he would train there and he hears Lulu talking about Ramon. She's talking to her daughter about a kid that came into the gym often and how this kid's father was part of some cartel or gang down in Mexico that he had, quote, cut up bodies in the past. And then towards the end of the conversation, Mundo caught something else, something about taking care of the situation. And then he heard Ramon's name.
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Mundo
To sound any alarms, yet he's thinking maybe he misunderstood, took it out of context.
Garrett Moreland
Oh, Mundo, you.
Mundo
But he's like, okay, I really just hear Lulu talking about having someone kill Ramon.
Unknown
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Garrett Moreland
I guess we talked about about this at the beginning. I don't know. I don't know. Like if I heard some.
Unknown
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Garrett Moreland
So if I heard you talking about wanting to kill me.
Mundo
Well, it's not Ramon. Did you.
Garrett Moreland
I don't know. I'm just saying if I did. Yeah, if I heard you talking. I snuck up on you in the bathroom when you were talking to someone about trying to kill me. I might kill you first.
Mundo
Oh, okay. Go to the police, please.
Garrett Moreland
It's killed or be killed, right?
Mundo
Yeah, I mean, I don't think so. Not in this situation.
Garrett Moreland
Yeah, I mean, kinda in the situation.
Mundo
So Mundo goes home that night, he processes it all. Then he wakes up with the intention of confronting Lulu about it at the gym the next day. So Mundo goes in, knocks on her office door. She welcomes him in, and let's just say she's not shy about her feelings. She tells Mundo, I'm tired. I'm frustrated. I wish Ramon would just leave or the cops would pick him up, or he would just disappear. Now Mundo's like, okay, Lulu, what do you mean by disappear? Do you mean, like. And he makes the pistol sign with his two fingers. And Lulu nods her head at Mundo that she's crazy.
Unknown
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Mundo
Mundo takes a minute to think about it.
Peyton Moreland
He goes out, he hits a bag.
Mundo
For a few minutes, and then he goes back to Lulu and says, you know what? I think I might know somebody. But before you jump to conclusions, let me give you a little backstory on Mundo. This guy's had a pretty rough past. He joined a gang at the age of 12 and had been shot six different times in his life. He also landed in jail three different times before one violent felony charge that put him away for 14 months. When he was released, his soon to be wife told him, clean yourself up or you'll never see me again. And Mundo did. He turned his life around. He moved to a safer part of Houston, away from the gangs he was associated with. He started looking for new ways to spend his time, which is how he even stumbled upon Ramon's gym back in 2005. So 10 years earlier. And Mundo was exactly the kind of guy Ramon loved to help. He started training Mundo because he told Ramon he didn't want to learn how to fight. He wanted to learn how to box. And that was all Ramon needed to hear to take him under his wing. After that, the two became best friends, had been practically inseparable ever since. Mundo said Ramon was the first person in his life to act like a real father figure to him. And even when Lulu came into Ramon's life, Ramon and Mundo stayed close. So you're probably wondering, why did his best friend of sorts just say, hey, I have an idea? Or was he willing to help Lulu find a hitman? The answer is he thought this was the only way he could save his best friend's life. So Mundu said he could tell in that moment that Lulu was dead serious about getting Ramon killed. And if Mundo didn't pretend like he was going to help, she would find someone else, and probably fast, since their divorce was getting closer to being finalized, and she probably wanted him dead before that. So he told Lulu that day he knew someone named Paco who would happily do the job.
Garrett Moreland
But Paco, man.
Mundo
But when Mundo left the gym, he didn't call Paco and say, hey, I need you to take, you know, to do this hit. He called Ramon and he said, look, this is exactly what is going on.
Garrett Moreland
Could you imagine? Would you. Okay, would you believe your friend if they called you and said, hey, Garrett's trying to kill you?
Mundo
I think it would depend on who the friend was.
Garrett Moreland
Any friend. Is there any friend you believe?
Mundo
But if we were, like, going through a divorce, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I probably would.
Garrett Moreland
Right. Because I guess we're going through divorce and things are kind of nasty right now.
Mundo
Yeah.
Garrett Moreland
Like right now.
Mundo
And she's made her intentions clear. She wants the business.
Garrett Moreland
Yeah.
Mundo
She wants it all. She's told him that up front.
Garrett Moreland
Yeah, that's true.
Mundo
So at first, Ramon is in total disbelief, like, yeah, things are ugly between him and Lulu, but she wouldn't actually pay someone to kill him, right?
Garrett Moreland
Yeah.
Mundo
But the more Ramon thinks about it, the more it starts to make sense. If Lulu killed Ramon before the divorce was finalized, she would get a heck of a lot more. She would get Ramon's entire retirement fund. The house, the business, his life insurance policy. There would be no tit for tat. Lulu would walk away as the beneficiary to it all. As if that wasn't bad enough, Ramon had a good reason to be afraid. He was still living under the same roof as Lulu. Sure, they were sleeping in separate bedrooms, but now Ramon would have to walk past Lulu in the kitchen tomorrow morning and pretend like he didn't know that she was trying to hire someone to kill him. It's a lot. Which is why Ramon decides to waste no time over this. He goes to the police immediately. And you know what they say?
Garrett Moreland
Ah, too bad.
Peyton Moreland
Good luck, buddy.
Garrett Moreland
Yep.
Mundo
Your wife's trying to kill you. There's nothing we can do about that right now. You're not the first person going through a divorce whose wife wants him dead. You have zero proof. So until you show us some more concrete evidence that she's put a hit on you, we can't move forward with this.
Garrett Moreland
That sucks.
Mundo
So what does Ramon do?
Garrett Moreland
Sucks.
Mundo
He forms a plan with Mundo to get that concrete evidence for police. First, they buy a burner phone, one they pretend belongs to the hitman Mundo. Setting Lulu up with Paco, Ramon takes the burner phone and Mundo walks into the gym, pulls Lulu aside and says, all right, want me to set this up for you? I will text him right now. So Lulu watches over Mundo's shoulder as.
Peyton Moreland
He texts Paco, AKA Ramon, who's on the burner phone, and Paco.
Mundo
Ramon agrees, says he'll need $1,000 cash and Ramon's truck.
Peyton Moreland
And Lulu falls for it. She agrees to the deal, and a few days later, even gives a payment to Mundo to hand off to Paco for the weapon.
Mundo
But Mundo also needs evidence that Lulu's.
Peyton Moreland
Directly connected, which is why he starts.
Mundo
Secretly recording their conversations about this hit.
Garrett Moreland
One more evidence do you need?
Unknown
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Peyton Moreland
In one of them, she's actually going.
Mundo
Through Ramon's watch collection, talking about which ones she can pawn off to pay for the kill. In another recorded conversation, Mundo asks Lulu.
Peyton Moreland
Clear as day, quote, they just want to know you are serious, that you want Ramon killed.
Mundo
And her reply is, quote, yes, yes, yes, definitely they should do it.
Peyton Moreland
I do not give a damn.
Mundo
I am going to pay, all right?
Garrett Moreland
If the police don't take this seriously, I'm going to be. I mean, obviously they don't. That's. I don't know what to say. Very upsetting.
Mundo
So time passes, and the more time passes, the more Ramon and Mundo start.
Peyton Moreland
To worry about Lulu.
Mundo
This woman is a wild card. She's completely unpredictable. What happens if she starts getting antsy, realizes that this hitman is never actually going to come through? They can't drag this out for weeks. What if she goes off and finds someone else to do the job? So for Ramon, it's literally a race against the clock. And he's getting scared. He buys himself a gun. He starts carrying it everywhere. He's sitting at traffic lights, paranoid someone's gonna pull up next to him and just shoot him.
Garrett Moreland
Bro. Did they not go to the police yet?
Mundo
They need to get the police involved. So 10 days after collecting all of this evidence, they decide to move. So on July 15, 2015, Ramon goes back to the police. The Montgomery County Constable's office, to be exact. And between those recordings and the down payment Lulu had given to Mundo to help get the gun, police are like, okay, yeah, we believe you that she's trying to kill you, dude, you have a lot of evidence. In those recordings, Lulu talks about getting Ramon's life insurance policy, getting his pension payments for the rest of her life, his retirement money, how she'll never have to work again.
Garrett Moreland
This is insane.
Mundo
And that she needed Ramon to be dead before July 22nd because that's when their divorce would be finalized. If that day came and went with Ramon still alive, well, she wouldn't get a dime. His kids would walk away with most of it.
Garrett Moreland
I would go on A vacation. I would go on a cruise that nobody knows about for, like, three weeks.
Mundo
So Mundo also tells her several times in these recordings, if at any point she wants to call it off, she can just say the word. And she's like, no, I'm good. Let's do do it. I already made up my mind. So police are more than ready to move forward now, but they have less than seven days to get this done, because, like Ramon, they are worried about the possibility of Lulu hiring someone else.
Peyton Moreland
To do the job, especially if she.
Mundo
Feels like Paco is moving too slow. So ultimately, they also decide to keep up the ruse that Ramon and Mundo were playing. The police figured if they changed course now, Lulu might suspect something's up. They want more evidence.
Unknown
Change course, arrest the girl.
Mundo
So they kept Mundo Ramon as part of their sting operation. And they set a date for Paco, who would be played by one of the precincts undercover agents, and Lulu to finally meet in person. This is on July 20th. That evening, Lulu stopped at an ATM and withdrew 500 cash before meeting Mundo and Paco in a parking lot just a few blocks away from the gym. She also brought several of Ramon's watches with her as additional payment. Mundo, who's wearing a hidden camera, catches the discussion between her and Paco when he asks her, okay, so what do you want? You want this guy beaten up or left over? She's like, no, no beating. I just want him dead. He says, okay, any final messages you want me to tell him? And she says, no, I don't want to talk to him. I just want him dead. She's on a mission. She's cold, she's heartless. And when the whole thing is done, Lulu actually pulls Mundo in for a.
Peyton Moreland
Hug, like she's grateful for his help.
Mundo
In finding this hitman.
Garrett Moreland
And they don't just arrest her on the spot. Right there.
Mundo
No. So at this point, what am I missing? Have more than enough to arrest Lulu, maybe even put her behind bars. But there's still those claims she made of domestic violence, something they think could sway a jury. So they figure there's one more thing they could do to really show Lulu's true colors. They wanted to convince Lulu that Ramon was dead, and to do it, they.
Peyton Moreland
Pulled out all the stops.
Mundo
Now, in all of our years doing this show, I can think, I can safely say this is the first time I've heard of something like this happening in a case.
Garrett Moreland
Oh, did you lie to me?
Mundo
I did.
Garrett Moreland
You lied to me.
Mundo
Well, he is.
Garrett Moreland
I love it.
Unknown
Isn't a grave oh, I'm pretty happy you lied to me. Because I thought for sure he was dead.
Garrett Moreland
That makes me pretty happy.
Mundo
So the following day, July 21, detectives sat in front of a computer watching YouTube makeup tutorials because they were going to learn how to face a gunshot to the head. They went to the grocery store, they bought food coloring, corn syrup, just like they use in the movies. Then they dug a shallow grave in a rural area of north Houston. This is like real crazy official police business. Okay, there's like a whole team here doing this. At around 5pm that day, Ramon Sosa climbed into that hole wearing nothing but his underwear. And I do want to say I have heard Ramon himself talk about this experience, and he finds this entire thing extremely traumatic. Oh, I'm sure it's not just like, fun and games. It's not like he's going through this entire thing. Bloody makeup all over him, pretending to be dead, climbing in a hole.
Peyton Moreland
He's doing this because his wife wants to kill him.
Mundo
Wants to kill him.
Garrett Moreland
Actually wants to kill.
Peyton Moreland
Okay, I'm gonna explain to you the coziest winter night Garrett and I can have.
Mundo
Okay.
Peyton Moreland
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Unknown
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Mundo
The upside?
Unknown
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Mundo
The secret?
Unknown
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Peyton Moreland
Wool that feels as cozy as a.
Unknown
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Mundo
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Mundo
So it's not fun and games like he's sitting in this whole going, what has my life come to? This is so distressing. He's in only his underwear. He's very vulnerable. He has a fake bloody gunshot wound to the head. Closes his eyes. He plays dead. And detectives snapped photos on their cell phones of him lying there. Now, to the officers who were helping Ramon fake his own death, this might have felt like just a weird day at work. Like I said, Ramon lying in that hole, it was emotional. He's thinking about his kids. Are they ever going to see this photo? To him, this isn't a story he's going to go home and tell his wife after this is the culmination of his life. It's just bizarre. But it gets the job done. Because the following day, that undercover officer playing Paco meets up with Lulu. And again, their encounter is caught on camera.
Peyton Moreland
He shows her the photos.
Mundo
She stares at them quietly for a few seconds. She doesn't cringe. She doesn't look away. She doesn't say, no, no, I don't want to see. She just deadpan. She just stares. And when Paco tells her, yeah, Ramon.
Peyton Moreland
Fought back, she laughs.
Mundo
She's looking at a picture of who.
Peyton Moreland
She believes is her dead husband.
Mundo
What?
Unknown
The freak?
Mundo
The hitman says, yeah, he fought back. And she laughs.
Garrett Moreland
Okay.
Mundo
She shows zero remorse.
Peyton Moreland
So police are like, yeah, this is.
Mundo
Gonna make a jury not.
Garrett Moreland
Yeah.
Mundo
Believe that Ramon had ever done anything. So police secure an arrest warrant for Lulu. On July 23, police show up to the gym pretending to look for Ramon, who they say they've gotten missing persons reports about. So they're still playing this. They pull Lulu aside, ask if she's seen him, has he been at work? Have you spoken to him? And she says, no, we haven't spoken since we started going through our divorce. When they ask when she last saw ramon, she says, July 15. Despite the fact that they were living under the same roof together. And at the same time, Lulu's acting concerned. She's asking police questions. They give Lulu a few minutes to finish her hardly Oscar worthy performance, and.
Peyton Moreland
Then they say, lulu, you're under arrest for capital murder charges.
Garrett Moreland
Okay. Yep.
Peyton Moreland
I don't know what her reaction was to finding out that Ramon was still alive, but I'm. I'm sure the look on her face was absolutely priceless.
Garrett Moreland
That's amazing. I wish I could see.
Peyton Moreland
And while Ramon was probably chomping at.
Mundo
The bit for Lulu to hear this.
Peyton Moreland
Entire story, that wasn't the case. When it came to Ramon's kids. He now had to explain to them, hey, so there's this picture of me, and I had to do it because the woman that honestly put a wedge between us tried to kill me. He also had the hurdle of rebuilding his reputation. While I don't know what went on behind closed doors between Ramon and Lulu, I have to say he was never convicted of anything having to do with domestic assault. And after her arrest, Lulu agreed to the divorce settlement as it stood, giving Ramon full ownership of both the house and the gym. Then, after spending 15 months behind bars awaiting her trial, Lulu pleaded guilty in October 2016 to reduce charges of second degree solicitation of murder. Ramon was at her sentencing hearing. He says he'll never forget the first thing he noticed when she walked in. The sound of her chains clinging as the courtroom fell silent. But Ramon also said he felt sorry for Lulu. As he put it, quote, this lady ended up in this country because she wanted a better life. She was living well. I bought her expensive shoes. She had fine clothes. And now she's in a jumpsuit and chains. It didn't have to be this way. In fact, Ramon said he forgave her in that moment.
Mundo
It was as if all his anger.
Peyton Moreland
And frustration washed away as he saw her stand before the judge and receive her sentence 20 years behind bars. But Lulu, she never once looked in Ramon's direction that day. And not a single member of hers stood up before the judge to advocate on her behalf. After that day in court, Ramon did his best to move forward in life. He said the experience brought him and his daughter Mia much closer. She actually packed up her life in California and returned to Texas to be closer to her father. She said seeing those photos of him lying in that grave pretending to be dead made her realize how little time they actually had together. And she wanted him to be more present in her life. In 2018, Ramon found love again. He got engaged to a Houston based doctor. He wrote a book about his experience, even started traveling, giving lectures and supporting charities that address male domestic violence. And he credits all of this to. To his good friend, Mundo.
Garrett Moreland
Good old Mundo Man.
Peyton Moreland
But while Ramon's story may have a happy ending, that doesn't mean he's living without fear. Because in October 2023, Lulu was released from prison after serving only seven years of her 20 year sentence. Ramon says that while she was released on good behavior, he says, maybe Lulu's the same person. Maybe she'll come for me looking for revenge. And because of that, Ramon will always be looking over his shoulder, wondering if the woman he once loved will come to finish the job once and for all.
Garrett Moreland
That's scary, actually. 100.
Peyton Moreland
And that is the story of Ramon Sosa, who had to fake his own death for police to believe him that his wife was trying to kill him.
Garrett Moreland
Dude, that's. That is pretty scary that she's out. Yeah, I mean, I'd move. Like, I'd move countries, bro.
Mundo
She laughed.
Garrett Moreland
I'd move countries for sure.
Mundo
She laughed.
Peyton Moreland
He shouldn't have to.
Garrett Moreland
No, he shouldn't have to.
Peyton Moreland
But I should by.
Garrett Moreland
She should send her somewhere. Just send her to the middle of an island somewhere.
Mundo
He should get her live there to live where she.
Peyton Moreland
He wants to live.
Mundo
She laughed when he said he fought back. That's so sad.
Peyton Moreland
She's heartless and cold.
Garrett Moreland
What a case.
Unknown
Well, you lied to me.
Garrett Moreland
But I'm glad everyone's alive.
Peyton Moreland
Well, what did you want me to tell you? No, no, no, no, no. Everything turns out okay.
Garrett Moreland
Yeah, he lied to to him.
Peyton Moreland
He did end up in a grave with a gunshot to the head.
Garrett Moreland
I still love you.
Peyton Moreland
I love you, too.
Mundo
All right, you guys, that is our episode.
Peyton Moreland
And we will see you next time with another one. I love it.
Garrett Moreland
I hate it.
Peyton Moreland
Goodbye.
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Murder With My Husband: Episode 256 - "Lulu's Hitman: The Shocking Case of Ramon Sosa"
Release Date: February 17, 2025
Host/Author: OH NO MEDIA
In episode 256 of Murder With My Husband, the Oh No Media team delves into the harrowing true crime story of Ramon Sosa and his wife, Lulu. This episode unravels the dark intricacies of a marriage that spiraled into a deadly confrontation, highlighting themes of betrayal, deception, and survival.
Ramon Sosa’s journey begins in Carolina, Puerto Rico, where he was born to a professional boxer father. Inspired by his upbringing, Ramon immersed himself in the world of boxing from a young age.
“At the age of seven, he began training with some of Puerto Rico's top boxers.” [05:59]
By 17, Ramon had turned pro, earning the nickname "The Puerto Rican Express" for his swift knockouts. However, his passion for the sport waned as he grew disillusioned with the commercialization and perceived exploitation within boxing.
Seeking fulfillment beyond the ring, Ramon transitioned to coaching, establishing gyms in Houston, Texas. His dedication to nurturing young talent earned him respect and success in the local boxing community.
“If you were in the boxing game in Texas, there's a good chance you wanted Ramon literally in your corner of the rink.” [07:03]
In 2007, Ramon’s life took a significant turn when he met Maria Delore Days, known as Lulu, at a nightclub. Lulu, a hardworking mother from Mexico, resonated with Ramon’s desire to support troubled youth through boxing.
“In the completely packed club, Ramon spotted her almost immediately across the dance floor.” [09:08]
Their relationship blossomed quickly, leading to marriage in March 2009. Initially, Lulu appeared to be the supportive partner Ramon needed, contributing to his business and family life.
Despite early harmony, cracks began to appear in Ramon and Lulu’s marriage around 2015. Lulu started harboring resentment, claiming Ramon had been abusive—allegations that were vehemently denied by Ramon and dismissed by those who knew him.
“Lulu even claimed Ramon had forced himself on her without consent.” [14:07]
Simultaneously, financial strains emerged as Lulu began skimming money from their shared business to fund her divorce proceedings, further eroding trust and stability.
The situation escalated when Mundo, a close friend and former gang member turned mentee of Ramon, overheard Lulu discussing plans that implied she intended to have Ramon killed. Mundo's background and deep bond with Ramon positioned him uniquely to recognize the severity of the threat.
“I thought he was looking for a way out of our marriage by painting it to be worse than it was.” [20:22]
Determined to protect his life, Ramon and Mundo devised a strategic plan to gather irrefutable evidence of Lulu’s intentions. They orchestrated a sting operation, convincing Lulu that they had connected with a hitman named Paco, while secretly recording all interactions to build a solid case.
“They kept Mundo Ramon as part of their sting operation.” [28:47]
On July 20, 2015, the plan culminated in a meticulously staged scenario where Ramon faked his own death. Simultaneously, undercover officers played the role of the hitman, Paco, meeting with Lulu to finalize the arrangement.
“Ramon Sosa climbed into that hole wearing nothing but his underwear.” [31:38]
This ruse successfully coerced Lulu into revealing her true intentions and attempting to proceed with the hit, leading to her arrest for capital murder charges on July 23, 2015.
“They set Lulu, you're under arrest for capital murder charges.” [36:31]
Post-arrest, Ramon focused on rebuilding his life. He reconnected with his daughter Mia, who moved back from California to support him. Ramon also found love again in 2018 and dedicated himself to advocacy against domestic violence, leveraging his traumatic experience to help others.
“This lady ended up in this country because she wanted a better life... I forgive her.” [38:07]
Despite finding peace, Ramon remains vigilant. In October 2023, Lulu was released from prison after serving seven years of her 20-year sentence. Ramon fears she may seek revenge, a concern that continues to shadow his life.
“Maybe she'll come for me looking for revenge... I will always be looking over my shoulder.” [39:38]
The case of Ramon Sosa and Lulu serves as a profound narrative on the lengths one will go to survive and protect loved ones. Through strategic planning and unwavering friendship, Ramon not only saved his life but also emerged stronger, advocating for others facing similar threats.
Garrett Moreland:
“No, I have no hope that he's going to live.” [05:52]
Mundo:
“Probably the police, right?” [04:53]
Peyton Moreland:
“And Honestly, that's where ZocDoc comes in.” [01:56]
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Garrett Moreland:
“I'm the husband.” [02:48]
Mundo:
“So Mundo goes home that night, he processes it all.” [20:08]
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This episode masterfully intertwines personal anecdotes from the hosts with the detailed chronology of Ramon Sosa's ordeal, providing listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the case. The inclusion of direct quotes enhances the authenticity and emotional depth of the story, making it both engaging and informative for those new to the podcast.