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Peyton Moreland
You're listening to an Ono Media podcast. Hey everyone, welcome back to the podcast. This is Murder with My Husband. I'm Peyton Moreland.
Garrett Moreland
And I'm Garrett Moreland and he's the husband. And I'm the husband.
Peyton Moreland
If we sound a little different it is because we are currently recording in a different place. But don't worry, we are here with.
Garrett Moreland
Another episode for those who are watching on YouTube. We don't know what we're going to do about video yet because we brought our set, we brought our camera and it is just not working. I could get into it technically but it's just, it's not working. It's bugging out. It's wigging out. Really frustrating because they are not cheap cameras.
Peyton Moreland
I just don't understand how it's 2025 and we're literally sending people into space, but have yet to figure out all of the technological glitches that happen. Like almost every time we record. Just how is this still happen?
Garrett Moreland
Yeah. And I know it's not just us. We have friends in the podcast industry, friends in photography, videography, whatever it is. There's just stuff happens and it's annoying. But we will figure something out. For video. I don't know if it'll be us. It probably won't. For the, for those who are on YouTube. I'm so sorry. Go and listen to the audio if you want. We love you guys. Thank you everyone for being here. We are on just a little fourth of July. I don't know, we're just out of town. We're in nature hanging out for a few days.
Peyton Moreland
Daisy, Daisy jumped in the pond. Now she smells like pond water. So she's gonna take a bath every day this week.
Garrett Moreland
She smells so bad. But thank you for supporting us. And let's get into this week's episode.
Peyton Moreland
Our sources for this episode are oxygen.com abc news.go.com thecalifornian.com 8newsnow.com cbs news.com reviewjournal.com aymag.com ksbw.com l.com and happyscribe.com so most of us can understand how great a feeling it is to help someone in need. Whether that's volunteering, making a donation, even just lending a hand to a friend or a stranger when you see them struggling. And sometimes all it takes is one good deed to realize I want to help more people. It's easy to see why some people literally dedicate their lives to these acts of service. But what we rarely ask ourselves during those moments when we're volunteering or helping someone we don't really know is what are their intentions? Do they have an ulterior motive? Because helping someone can be a vulnerable thing. And when help is offered to the wrong person, that can be a slippery slope. Especially if you put your foot down to the wrong person. They might just keep taking from you anyway. And as today's case will prove, that might even mean taking a life. So let's head now to the picturesque coastal town of Salinas, California, where in 2019, the 71 year old Dr. Thomas Bouchard is living with his fiance, Judy Earp. Now that year, Thomas is finally starting to talk about full retirement. After working for decades as a child psychiatrist and being 71 years old, Thomas spent years working at some of the top hospitals in the country. From Cincinnati, children's hospital to Massachusetts General and even UCLA. But for the last 40 years, he has been a staple at the community hospital of the Monterey Peninsula. In fact, Thomas had been there for so long, he was now seeing the kids of the kids that he had once treated. So it's safe to say Thomas has dedicated his life to helping people, particularly children. And it doesn't get much more altruistic than that. Which may be why Thomas is having a hard time just letting the job go. While he likes to tell people he's retired, he still treats his patients about four hours every week. He feels like there is some patients that really need him, and he's willing to put full retirement on hold just to help them out. But working only four hours a week does give Thomas plenty of time to enjoy the other things that he loves in life, including magic. He had been practicing for years and loves cheering up his patients with the tricks he learned. Thomas takes it pretty seriously, too. He's a member at an exclusive magic club in Los Angeles called the Magic Castle and has been going to magic conferences for years for his fiance, Judy, who was 12 years younger. That was part of the charm when she met him back in the early 2000s. At the time, Judy was a realtor who had been divorced with four kids, and she was actually on a trip with some friends in Las Vegas when she met Thomas for the first time. The two connected over the fact that they had both been recently divorced and were embarking on new chapters in their lives. And after a few great conversations by the pool, the two stayed in touch over email. Thomas would actually travel down to LA all the time to visit Judy at her home. But around 2004, Judy decided to move with her kids up to Salinas and in with Thomas. So, safe to say, things are getting pretty serious. There was just one quality of Thomas's that Judy both loved and hated, and that was how generous Thomas was with his money.
Garrett Moreland
Okay, which wouldn't they like that? Because they're spending it on them, I.
Peyton Moreland
Think, with other people. Okay, so she loves and hates it. Thomas was the kind of person who never really spent much money on himself. He pretty much always wore a variation of the same set of clothes. Khaki pants, a white dress shirt, and a bow tie. But buying things for himself was not really what brought Thomas joy. He preferred to spend his money on other people to make them happy. And you know those magic tricks I told you about? Sometimes they ended with letting the patient keep the $100 bill that Thomas used for the trick.
Garrett Moreland
Wow, that's cool.
Peyton Moreland
In fact, he was generous with his patients in other ways, too. If they couldn't afford things like their medication or books and supplies for school, he often chipped in to help, no questions asked. This is the kind of guy you want as your doctor. But it wasn't just his patients. Thomas seemed to have a soft spot for helping other women in need, particularly people who were going through addictions, were single mothers struggling to make ends meet, maybe even sex workers. But there was something else going on with Thomas beginning around 2018 that Judy started to notice. So they've been together for quite a long time at this point. One day she was approached by a social worker who seemed to be tipped off by one of Thomas's colleagues.
Garrett Moreland
And.
Peyton Moreland
And that social worker told Judy that someone was worried Thomas might be experiencing the early stages of dementia. Though I will say this didn't really come as a shock to Judy. She had noticed Thomas getting lost in parking lots, forgetting where he had left his car. Judy's daughter said Thomas didn't recognize her when she ran into him at the grocery store. He was even forgetting how to use the TV remote. And while it seemed gradual, it definitely sent Judy into a panic when Thomas set off on a trip in March of 2019 and didn't tell Judy where he was going.
Garrett Moreland
So heartbreaking, because I'm sure you guys listening as well. Like, we know a lot of people with dementia, and it's heartbreaking. It's hard. It's one of those things that is honestly, it's hard to put in the words, but it is heartbreaking.
Peyton Moreland
You grieve someone who's still alive, correct?
Garrett Moreland
Yes, I think that's a great way to put it.
Peyton Moreland
So on March 1, Thomas got on a plane and headed to Las Vegas. And he didn't tell Judy that he had done that until he landed at about 5:30pm that night. And for the next few days, Judy had a hard time getting in touch with him again. He wasn't really answering his phone. He was seeming a bit cagey. So by Sunday, she texts him saying, why aren't you answering me? And he replies with something pretty strange. He just says, I'm out to lunch. Now, Judy thinks this is weird because he's called her and chatted plenty of times during a meal before. So she says to him, well, that's never stopped you before. And then he says, I need to charge my phone. And then after that, his phone goes dead. So Judy keeps texting him throughout the day, but the texts aren't going through. She's getting more and more frantic, especially when she doesn't hear from him that night. But On Monday the 4th, he is supposed to be headed back from this spontaneous trip. So Judy goes to the airport and waits for his flight to get in. And after all of the passengers get off the plane, there is still no Thomas. Now, this is really freaking Judy out. So she goes to the desk and says, hey, I just need to know if my fiance ever even got back on the plane. And they tell her, no, he never checked in for his flight, and he actually wasn't on the manifest.
Garrett Moreland
Are you allowed to. This might be a dumb question. I'm just not sure. Are you allowed to drive if you have dementia?
Peyton Moreland
I think so.
Garrett Moreland
Are you allowed to fly?
Peyton Moreland
Like, I mean, technically, I think you're allowed to do anything. It's just for, like, your safety.
Garrett Moreland
No, I get. Yes. That. I mean, aren't you, like. Are you a danger to other people? I don't know.
Peyton Moreland
I think your family or your caretakers might decide that.
Garrett Moreland
Interesting. Yeah.
Peyton Moreland
So Judy, at this point, decides to call the Las Vegas Police. She's like, this whole trip has been so weird. I've barely been able to talk to him. And now he wasn't even on the plane back that he said he was going to be on. She thinks Thomas is missing. Now, with Thomas's age and possible dementia, the police actually take it pretty seriously. But they don't have a lot of information to go off of right now. Though, on Wednesday, two days after he didn't come home, a friend tries his cell phone again randomly. And now it's turned back on. Only it's not Thomas who answers Thomas's cell phone.
Garrett Moreland
No way.
Peyton Moreland
The person says, oh, I found this cell phone on the Vegas Strip. So wherever Thomas is now, he doesn't have his cell phone with him.
Garrett Moreland
Okay. Okay.
Peyton Moreland
Anyways, though, it's not until the following day, March 7, that there's a real break in this missing person's case. And it's not one anybody was hoping for. So that morning, someone calls 911 to say that they spotted a blue Mercedes abandoned on a dirt road. It's about two miles off the highway, kind of closer to the Lake Mead area, which is about 20 miles away from the Las Vegas.
Garrett Moreland
Good old Lake Mead. We already know enough about that.
Peyton Moreland
Yeah. Now, when police get there, they see that both of the windows on the Mercedes are rolled down, but there's no one in any of the seats of the car. What they do find inside is a pair of blue latex gloves There is blood in the back seat of the abandoned car. And on the driver's side headrest was also blood and what looks like evidence of a small fire in the passenger seat, like someone had tried to burn the car, but it clearly didn't work. And when they open the trunk, they find a bunch of clothes. They find bedding. They find bloody towels, and it smells terrible. So when they move those things aside, they already are kind of figuring what they're gonna find in this trunk. And they are right. No way there is a body in the trunk of this abandoned car.
Garrett Moreland
Okay.
Peyton Moreland
And once they check the pockets and find the ID and credit cards that are still inside, they confirm that this is the missing elderly Dr. Thomas Buchard.
Garrett Moreland
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Peyton Moreland
I think I responded.
Garrett Moreland
You responded simply.
Peyton Moreland
Yeah, because I got something similar.
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Well, I just. I wouldn't offer you a security system that we wouldn't back. You know what I mean?
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Garrett Moreland
She's country.
Peyton Moreland
She began doing pageants and then turned to modeling, which eventually brought her out to Los Angeles, where she landed a few magazine covers. But Kelsey found most of her fame through Instagram, where she called herself Bad Barbie. She would pose in bikinis. She showed photos of her gun tattoo. She took selfies.
Garrett Moreland
Wait, like the bad Barbie?
Peyton Moreland
Are you thinking bad baby?
Garrett Moreland
Oh, that's who I'm thinking is bad baby. The one I was on Dr. Phil, right? Catch me outside.
Peyton Moreland
Yes.
Garrett Moreland
Okay.
Peyton Moreland
Not the same girl.
Garrett Moreland
Okay. Okay. Thank you. I was like, wait, this isn't making sense.
Peyton Moreland
Bad Barbie would take selfies and wigs and lingerie. She tried to portray herself as someone who was on the up and up in her career. A woman who was finding success in a tough industry, who was living this glamorous model life. But in reality, Kelsey wasn't making much money from her dreams at all. She was a single mother of two kids and at 25 years old, had already been divorced twice with no steady income. So a lot of people who knew the real Kelsey wondered how was she even able to afford some of the things that she was posting about online? Like a brand new house in the Salinas area of California.
Garrett Moreland
Okay.
Peyton Moreland
A brand new BMW. She always had new clothes, bags, jewelry, accessories. And the answer TO that is Dr. Thomas Bouchard. So remember how I mentioned that Thomas did love to help people?
Garrett Moreland
Yeah.
Peyton Moreland
Well, a lot of those people were attractive young women that he met on the Internet. And while I'm not totally sure how or when Kelsey and Thomas first stumbled upon each other's profiles, I do know that shortly after they began chatting, Thomas seemed to fall for Kelsey. Not only was she a beautiful blonde model, she was a single mom of two just trying to get on her feet. She the perfect recipe for disaster for Thomas, who was attracted to both her and the fact that she was down on her luck. This was his sort of thing. So at first, their relationship was just online transactional, as Kelsey called it. She would send Thomas pictures of herself and he would send her some cash to help pay her bills. So this isn't exactly a good old doctor helping someone out. There is definitely some transaction going on here. Eventually, the two began to meet up in person. Thomas would bring her prescription drugs she asked for, then a new bag and then a new car. Then rent on a house not too far away. Thomas told a friend of his that he finally understood what it was like to have a drug addiction. Only Kelsey was his drug of choice. He became obsessed with her. He would do anything she asked of him. Even though apparently their relationship never was sexual, Kelsey said it stayed transactional no matter how much money Thomas gave her. He was her sugar daddy, as she described. Now, apparently this wasn't the first time Thomas had found himself in a situation like this. Some sources claimed this was something that happened during his first marriage as well and might have been what ended it too. But obviously for a time, he was keeping this relationship of sorts from Judy, his fiance.
Garrett Moreland
Well, yeah.
Peyton Moreland
Though around 2017, his secret was finally exposed. Judy found some paperwork in Thomas's car one day back in 2017, and it was a lease agreement to a rental property for a woman named Kelsey Turner. And Thomas was the one co signing for it. Thomas seemingly told Judy the truth about the situation. He's like, no, things aren't sexual. She I just help her out financially. But it also seemed like Kelsey had been manipulating him into doing a lot more than he was comfortable with. She told him that because she had bad credit, she couldn't qualify for a lease. And if someone didn't co sign for her, she and her two kids and her mother would be homeless. So Thomas agreed to sign the lease, but then she left him on the hook for the rent each month. And then the same thing happened with the BMW. He got her. According to her, she had nothing to get to work in. So Thomas helped her take out a loan for this vehicle. But then she wasn't making the payments, which obviously leaves Thomas responsible. Meanwhile, Judy noticed the large amounts of cash that were draining quickly from Thomas's accounts. By 2019, Judy says Thomas had given Kelsey at least $750,000 for various things.
Garrett Moreland
Whoa, seven. Is this 750 grand?
Peyton Moreland
Yes. Is in total what he had given Kelsey over the years.
Garrett Moreland
A lot of money, dude.
Peyton Moreland
Judy, who was seemingly very dedicated to the relationship and not willing to leave Thomas over the matter, finally came up with a solution she thought might fix things. Get Kelsey out of the Selena's house. In fact, get her out of this state. So she told Thomas to put some distance between himself and Kelsey and to take away that BMW that he was making the payments on. And so, after talking to his fiance, he did. But he rented Kelsey a new house in Las Vegas instead. Though Kelsey didn't really seem to mind this change. In fact, she was living it up in Vegas. She had new friends, a new house, a new flashy lifestyle. One that was still being funded by Thomas, who just seemingly couldn't kick his habit of Kelsey. He even bought her a new car in Vegas, even though he had taken her old one away. It was a blue Mercedes Benz. And so Thomas buys Kelsey this new car. And then Kelsey texts Judy, Thomas's fiance. Now remember, Kelsey's a young girl. She texts Judy and says, quote, thanks for taking back the BMW. I look better in a bends anyways. Followed by three middle finger emojis.
Garrett Moreland
Holy crap.
Peyton Moreland
So Kelsey does not like Judy, who is trying to stop her paychecks from coming in.
Garrett Moreland
That's insane.
Peyton Moreland
But the harassment between these two didn't stop there. Apparently, Kelsey had told Thomas a few times that she would kill Judy if she threatened to take away her home or her car again, by the way, that house she moved to in Vegas, the one Thomas is paying for, she's not living there alone. She's also there with one of her kids, her 4 year old son, two roommates, one of which is like a part time nanny of her kid and her 27 year old boyfriend and former gang member, a guy named John Logan Kenison, who she met in early 2019. But by the end of February, Thomas had apparently had enough. This had really kind of caused an uproar in his life because even though Kelsey was now hundreds of miles away, she was still finding ways to get to his money. Apparently, she had stolen some of his passwords to his online accounts and was using his money to help pay for other things in her life. So by March, Thomas decided he was going to fly to Vegas and cut Kelsey off in person. And this is why he doesn't really tell Judy where he's going and what he was doing there. He didn't even tell her he was going to Vegas until he was already there that night. It seems like maybe he didn't want her to worry about the fact that he was going to see Kelsey in person. He had innocent motivations. But would Judy be able to understand that after the toxic relationship she had with Kelsey? Which obviously Judy has a right to be worried because as we know, Thomas never made it back on that return flight home. And then on March 7, Thomas was found dead in the trunk of Kelsey's car.
Garrett Moreland
What?
Peyton Moreland
That Mercedes Benz he had purchased for her.
Garrett Moreland
It just seems crazy to me that, I mean, I guess all these cases are crazy, but she just killed him.
Peyton Moreland
So once Judy hears from police, yes, your husband was found murdered and he was in the back of this girl Kelsey's car. She obviously has no doubt in her mind that Kelsey is responsible for this. And the police are obviously feeling the same way. They just aren't sure why or how. But they quickly get a search warrant for the house. Kelsey was living at, the same place that Thomas was staying when he came to visit Vegas. And when they get there, the place is vacant. Neither Kelsey nor any of her roommates are there. But the police do find a few other things of note inside that house, like an identical set of blue and white striped towels that actually matched the ones in the trunk of the car that were covering Thomas's body. So now you've tied evidence from the crime scene at the car back to the house that he was staying at with Kelsey. And they also notice the door to the upstairs bedroom is Broken. And it has blood on it. There's also blood in the garage and a very apparent and poor cleanup job. They also find something in there belonging to Thomas, though. It's a notebook of his. It kind of seems like a journal. And in it Thomas writes about some sort of extortion plan Kelsey was keeping over him. Which actually kind of explains a lot because apparently when Thomas threatened to cut Kelsey off financially a few months earlier, she actually said that she would go to the police and tell them that she had found child sexual abuse material on his devices.
Garrett Moreland
Which is so crazy because we see this a lot in cases where a victim is killed and the person who killed them, they'll continue to drag their name.
Peyton Moreland
Right.
Garrett Moreland
Because they're not alive to defend themselves.
Peyton Moreland
Right. Because I do want to say this is completely unfounded. There was never anything of the sort found on anything Thomas owns.
Garrett Moreland
We see it happen a lot, even in like court, even in the courts, like when there's a trial and stuff. Right. They'll just continue to drag someone's name and make stuff up to try to get the person who is in question off. And I don't know, I just. It really irks me.
Peyton Moreland
But in Thomas's mind, he was like, okay, even though this isn't real, just these allegations alone in today's day and age will ruin my career, my reputation, my legacy, everything. No one's going to wait around to get to the other side to find out that it wasn't true.
Garrett Moreland
Yeah. Which, I mean, he's right.
Peyton Moreland
So Thomas couldn't let her even utter such a horrible falsehood about him. So this is why he moves her to Vegas and keeps paying for things. So at this point, he's kind of locked into this. He doesn't want to be doing it anymore.
Garrett Moreland
I mean, it's illegal at this point, right? It's blackmail. Like, yeah, he could go to the cops and stuff, but then she's still just going to talk trash on him.
Peyton Moreland
And it's probably why he never even went to the police after he found out that she was stealing from him by getting his passwords. Not to mention a lot of it had to do with some shame Thomas was feeling over having been suckered into this sugar daddy relationship with a 25 year old woman while he had a fiance. This is a woman he fell for and was willingly helping out at first that was now kind of blackmailing him. So as I mentioned, Kelsey and all of her roommates fled the house the second news broke that Thomas's body was discovered and they all turned off their phones, too, which kind of implicates all of the roommates in the house, not just Kelsey, when all of them leave and try to cover up their tracks. So an arrest warrant is issued for Kelsey Turner, and an FBI task force actually finds her back in California in the Stockton area, hiding out with her four year old son. So she's finally taken into custody on March 21, 2019, but she's not willing to talk at this point. They also find Kelsey's new boyfriend, John Kennison, who's been hiding out at his mom's house. And it's the same deal with him. Then they put out a warrant for one of Kelsey's roommates, whose fingerprints were found inside the Mercedes, which just like.
Garrett Moreland
Okay.
Peyton Moreland
Which she cannot basically explain a woman named Diana Pena, the one who was acting as the part time nanny for the kids. So, boyfriend's arrested, Kelsey herself is arrested, and her nanny, Diana is also arrested. She actually turns herself into police. And Diana comes in willing to tell detectives everything that went down in the days leading up to Thomas's death.
Garrett Moreland
Which it's pretty funny because I feel like this actually happens a lot now where. And the police know it. If there's multiple people involved, someone's going to crack. One of them will crack and will spill everything at some point.
Peyton Moreland
And it's most likely going to be the nanny, not the actual person connecting you to the victim and their boyfriend. All right, you guys, Lately we have been trying to clean up the way we shop, finding healthy options that fit our budget and actually work for everyone. And that's why I want to talk to you about Thrive Market. Garrett, take it away, because he has been.
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Peyton Moreland
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And tell them, how did it feel that you were actually, like, loving the food and knowing it was like healthy.
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Peyton Moreland
So this is what she says. Thomas showed up at the House on March 1st as we know, and while it seems like he tried to have some tough conversations with Kelsey that night, he literally flies out there to talk to her in person to try to figure this out. These conversations didn't appear to be productive because Thomas stayed at the home that evening and was still there the following day. That night, Kelsey and Thomas went to pick Diana up from the Vegas strip where she was also working as a bartender. And on the way back, Kelsey asked Thomas if she could use his phone to plug in the GPS for directions. And apparently while she had his phone, she found something. Text messages between Thomas and Kelsey's mother were on Thomas's phone.
Garrett Moreland
Wait a second.
Peyton Moreland
No. These conversations were more about the well being of Kelsey's four year old son. So basically Thomas is texting her mother saying like, hey, here's what's going on. I'm really worried about Kelsey. This, she doesn't seem to be in a very good stage of life. I'm worried about the little boy. And Kelsey found these messages as basically him threatening the custody of her child. And this sent Kelsey into a rage. She began hitting Thomas as he tried to calm her down. Eventually they do make it back to the house, but things just get worse from there. Kelsey continued screaming at Thomas again, bringing up the false accusations of child exploitation material and that she planned to ruin his life if he did anything to take away her son. As things looked like they were gonna turn violent again, Thomas actually ran and locked himself in Kelsey's son's bedroom to try and escape the situation.
Garrett Moreland
Wow.
Peyton Moreland
Luckily, the four year old boy was with another one of Kelsey's friends at another house this night. So he didn't witness what came next because at this point, Kelsey's boyfriend John got involved. I want you to keep in mind this is an elderly person with onset symptoms of dementia.
Garrett Moreland
Yeah.
Peyton Moreland
That these young kids are, that they killed.
Garrett Moreland
I mean, there's no other way to put it.
Peyton Moreland
Yeah, Ganging up on. I mean, it's horrible.
Garrett Moreland
It's absolutely horrible.
Peyton Moreland
So apparently John at this point kicks in her son's door and went in with a baseball bat and began violently.
Garrett Moreland
Beating the doctor out of here.
Peyton Moreland
So Diana claims when she's talking to police that at this point she steps in. She took the bat away from John, got Thomas a glass of water, told him she was going to get him to a hospital. She got him downstairs and into the backseat of Kelsey's Mercedes. And I guess Diana doesn't drive because she said she waited for Kelsey to calm down and then come drive him to the hospital. Now at this point, Thomas starts pleading with Kelsey, saying he won't report her, he'll tell the doctors he was mugged, he won't mention her name at all. He's like, listen, just get me to the hospital. Mainly because he's terrified at this point that he's not going to make it out of this house alive. And unfortunately, his fears are founded.
Garrett Moreland
Oh, I am so heartbroken right now because that is so sad.
Peyton Moreland
Because Kelsey comes down to the car.
Garrett Moreland
Oh my God.
Peyton Moreland
She doesn't calm down. Instead she gets more erratic. She orders Diana to get back inside the house, start cleaning everything up, the blood out of her son's room. And Diana, who is terrified of these people who just started beating a 70 plus year old man, does what she's told. Meanwhile, Diana hears another argument break out downstairs. Kelsey starts yelling for John to knock Thomas out. And by the time Diana goes downstairs to try to intervene again, she sees John coming back in from the garage and he has blood all over him and he has a bloody pistol in his hand. That's when Kelsey looks at Diana and says, Thomas is dead. Which, if you think back on the autopsy, this does make sense. They believe Thomas was hit with a baseball bat and also a pistol of some kind.
Garrett Moreland
I bet you she thought that she was gonna get killed as well. She's like, what do I do now?
Peyton Moreland
Right? So afterwards, I mean, I guess we can't really. We can only take her story that she gave police, which she totally could have altered. But afterwards, Kelsey starts coming up with a cover story for all of them. Something about Thomas going back to California with some guy they had never seen. Meanwhile, Diana, Kelsey, her son and John all go to stay at the Mandalay Bay for the next day or so. And during that time, Kelsey and John talk about getting rid of Thomas's phone. But Diana says she's not sure what they actually ever did with it, though it seems they just left it on the strip somewhere. And that's when that random stranger answered, when Thomas's friend called a few days later. Then the next day, March 4, Diana says John drove off in Kelsey's Mercedes. And Diana says she never saw the car again after that. At the same time, Diana, Kelsey and her son went back to the house, hired a cleaning service to come by, told them they had a party that had gotten out of hand. After that, they all left the house and stayed at another hotel before Kelsey eventually went off to California with her son, where she was finally arrested a few weeks later. On March 21, Kelsey and John both pled not guilty to the murder charges and Diana actually accepts a plea deal to the lesser charge of accessory to murder for not reporting the crime in the first place. Diana received three years probation for her role. She later tells the press, if I could go back and change how I handled the situation. I would, but I don't know exactly how I would because I was scared. But being scared is not really an excuse. Finally, In May of 2022, John Logan Kennison also pleads guilty to murder. He's given 18 to 45 years behind bars. But before that, while Kelsey was waiting for her trial, she actually gave birth. Based on the timing of events and the way John held up a sign during one of her hearings that read, love you, little mama. People believe he was the father and that she might have actually been pregnant when they killed Dr. Thomas Bouchard. But Kelsey never ended up making it to trial because she later accepted an alford plea to second degree murder and was given 10 to 25 years in prison.
Garrett Moreland
Oh, that's it?
Peyton Moreland
Yeah.
Garrett Moreland
Are you kidding me?
Peyton Moreland
Listen to this. She'll be eligible for parole in March of 2029 at just 36 years.
Garrett Moreland
My gosh. No, no, that's not okay.
Peyton Moreland
Sorry. 26 to 36, like that's nothing.
Garrett Moreland
No, no, no. You either sitting there for life or.
Peyton Moreland
Yeah, that's not like she's going to get out and be able to live life. Her whole life has not passed her.
Garrett Moreland
I'm not okay with that. That's wild. That's so messed up.
Peyton Moreland
Judy, obviously, Thomas's fiance thinks this is a terrible idea. She pointed out that during the early hearings, Kelsey was smiling and laughing, posing for cameras. It's clear she wasn't taking anything seriously. Judy called her an evil person who deserves to spend the rest of her life behind bars. And honestly, I don't really disagree here. For Judy, Kelsey did irreparable damage to her life, her love, and her livelihood. She took things from Thomas and Judy that they will never get back. In the end, Thomas's generosity was both maybe his greatest quality and his downfall. And now the woman who truly loved him is left to suffer the consequences. This case truly, truly broke my heart because I. I think the way life unfolds and the trauma that people have, there is probably some reasonable explanation for why Thomas was wanting to help out these young women in the first place. And the fact that at some point he said, hey, I'm done. I don't want to do this anymore. And him saying no led to his death as an elderly man is actually so devastating. Because Kelsey was in her 20s, she literally could have just wip her hands and moved on like you have a sugar daddy. It's over. Move on. It's worth killing over. It's disgusting.
Garrett Moreland
It's horrible. I just. Oh it makes me so sad. I mean especially when people, I mean like he can't defend himself, he can't do anything. Like it's, it's just horrible. It's just absolutely horrible. And they should both be in prison until they die. I don't really care. Like there's no other. I don't have any other words for it. They should be in prison till they die and that should be that. But here we are.
Peyton Moreland
There's just a different level to something of killing children, differently abled people, elderly people. It takes a different level of evil to be able to do that and then laugh in the cameras about it afterwards. I truly hope that Judy receives justice at some point but from the sounds of it it doesn't seem like we're ever going to get there. All right you guys, that was our case for this week and we will see you next time with another one. I love it and I hate it. Goodbye.
Murder With My Husband - Episode 276: The Sugar Baby Murder
Release Date: July 7, 2025
Hosted by OH NO MEDIA
In episode 276 of Murder With My Husband, Peyton and Garrett Moreland delve into a heartbreaking true crime story that intertwines love, deception, and tragedy. Titled "The Sugar Baby Murder," this episode explores the life and untimely death of Dr. Thomas Bouchard, a devoted child psychiatrist whose generosity ultimately led to his demise at the hands of a young woman he sought to help.
[03:33]
Dr. Thomas Bouchard, a 71-year-old esteemed child psychiatrist, resided in Salinas, California, with his fiancée, Judy Earp. With a distinguished career spanning over four decades, Thomas had worked at renowned institutions like Cincinnati Children’s Hospital, Massachusetts General, and UCLA before dedicating the last 40 years to the Monterey Peninsula community hospital. His commitment to his patients was unwavering, often extending beyond professional duties by performing magic tricks to brighten their days and financially assisting those in need.
Notable Insight:
"Thomas had been a staple at the community hospital of the Monterey Peninsula. In fact, Thomas had been there for so long, he was now seeing the kids of the kids that he had once treated."
— Peyton Moreland [03:33]
Thomas met Judy Earp in the early 2000s when Judy, a divorced realtor with four children, was on a trip to Las Vegas. Their bond was immediate, founded on shared experiences of recent divorces and embarking on new life chapters. Judy moved to Salinas in 2004, solidifying their relationship. However, beneath Thomas’s generous exterior lay a troubling pattern of financial assistance to women in need, particularly young, vulnerable women seeking a "sugar daddy."
Key Point:
"Thomas was attracted to both her and the fact that she was down on her luck. This was his sort of thing."
— Peyton Moreland [19:30]
Around 2018, Judy began noticing unusual financial activities, leading to the discovery of Thomas’s financial entanglements with Kelsey Turner, a 25-year-old model known as "Bad Barbie" on Instagram. Kelsey portrayed a glamorous life online, but in reality, she struggled financially as a single mother of two, divorced twice, and lacking steady income. Thomas had been supporting her extensively, providing her with money, cars, and a home, amounting to at least $750,000 by 2019.
Significant Revelation:
"By 2019, Judy says Thomas had given Kelsey at least $750,000 for various things."
— Peyton Moreland [22:52]
Judy confronted Thomas about his financial drain, proposing that he distance himself from Kelsey to protect their relationship and finances. Despite agreeing to reduce his support, Thomas continued financially aiding Kelsey by renting her a new house in Las Vegas and buying her a new Mercedes-Benz. This ongoing financial support fueled tension between Judy and Kelsey, leading to harassment and threats from Kelsey towards Judy.
Confrontation Highlight:
"Kelsey does not like Judy, who is trying to stop her paychecks from coming in."
— Peyton Moreland [24:16]
In March 2019, Thomas flew to Las Vegas unannounced to confront Kelsey in person. Shortly after, he failed to return, raising alarms for Judy and prompting a police investigation. On March 7, Thomas was found brutally murdered in the trunk of Kelsey's abandoned Mercedes-Benz near Lake Mead. Evidence included a bloody baseball bat, signs of a struggle, and indications of attempted car fires to destroy evidence.
Grave Moment:
"Kelsey tells Diana she was going to get him to a hospital. Now at this point, Thomas starts pleading with Kelsey, saying he won't report her, he'll tell the doctors he was mugged, he won't mention her name at all."
— Peyton Moreland [36:51]
Police connected the vehicle to Kelsey Turner, uncovering her background as a struggling mother using Thomas’s generosity to sustain a facade of success. Upon searching Kelsey's residence, authorities found matching bloodstains and Thomas’s journal, which revealed Kelsey’s extortion attempts. Kelsey had threatened to accuse Thomas of possessing child sexual abuse material to manipulate him into continuing her financial support.
Disturbing Insight:
"Thomas had to live with the shame over having been suckered into this sugar daddy relationship with a 25-year-old woman while he had a fiancée."
— Peyton Moreland [28:28]
During the fatal confrontation, Kelsey and her associates, including her boyfriend John Logan Kennison and roommate Diana Pena, engaged in a violent altercation. As Robert attempted to sever ties, Kelsey, backed by John, turned deadly. Diana intervened, trying to protect Thomas, but the situation escalated beyond control. Thomas was forced into Kelsey's Mercedes under duress and later found murdered.
Emotional Climax:
"So as I mentioned, Kelsey and all of her roommates fled the house the second news broke that Thomas's body was discovered and they all turned off their phones, too, which kind of implicates all of the roommates in the house, not just Kelsey."
— Peyton Moreland [30:05]
Following the murder, Kelsey and her accomplices were apprehended. Diana Pena, the roommate, turned herself in and accepted a plea deal for being an accessory to murder, receiving three years of probation. John Logan Kennison pled guilty to murder and was sentenced to 18-45 years in prison. Kelsey Turner, initially pleading not guilty, ultimately accepted an Alford plea to second-degree murder, resulting in a sentence of 10-25 years with eligibility for parole in March 2029.
Legal Outcome:
"She accepted an Alford plea to second degree murder and was given 10 to 25 years in prison."
— Garrett Moreland [40:00]
The Morelands reflect on the tragic downfall of Thomas Bouchard, emphasizing how his inherent generosity became his vulnerability. Thomas's inability to extricate himself from a toxic relationship with Kelsey, compounded by his own emotional and financial investments, led to his untimely death. Judy Earp, left to grieve and rebuild her life, expresses profound disappointment and anger towards Kelsey, who manipulated and ultimately destroyed her future.
Heartfelt Conclusion:
"This case truly, truly broke my heart because I think the way life unfolds and the trauma that people have, there is probably some reasonable explanation for why Thomas was wanting to help out these young women in the first place... but the fact that at some point he said, hey, I'm done, I don't want to do this anymore, and him saying no led to his death as an elderly man is actually so devastating."
— Peyton Moreland [41:45]
"Murder With My Husband" Episode 276 paints a poignant picture of how benevolence can sometimes blind individuals to impending danger. Dr. Thomas Bouchard's legacy as a compassionate doctor is overshadowed by the circumstances of his death, serving as a sobering reminder of the complexities within human relationships and the potential perils of unchecked generosity.
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