
Our home town boys made GOOD! But don’t you worry, we won’t let the success go to our heads. As much as we wanted to make the whole thing ads top to bottom, this episode still has a tasteful amount of the absolute best ad reads in the game, alongside elevated discussions about special powers, what shapes make the best candy, and how to look cool on the playground. Suggested talking points: How Will I Make it up to Kevin Pereira, Pre-Roll Papa, Strong Hammerbones in the Middle Ear, Sorry it's been So Dusty, One of this Generation's Ad Wolves, Hut Crust, It's A Platform Border Angels: https://www.borderangels.org/our-services.html
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Justin McElroy
The McElroy brothers are not experts, and their advice should never be followed. Travis insists he's a sexpert, but if there's a degree on his wall, I haven't seen it. Also, this show isn't for kids, which I mention only so the babies out there will know how cool they are for listening. What's up, you cool baby?
Montagne
It's the start of something beautiful A small acquaintance has blossomed it's ripened into a precious friends I could have never seen what was coming for me Hangs at the skate park Hangs by the beach My life, it feels like. It's better it's better with you My life ah, it's better it's better with you this is true it's better it's better with two.
Justin McElroy
It's better with you hello and welcome to My Brother, My Brother main advice show for the Modron era. I'm your oldest brother, Justin McElroy.
Travis McElroy
Oh, all right, hold on real quick. Yeah, hey, Joel. Yeah, no, you tell Conan if he wants us to sub in and do his ads, he's gonna have to add a zero to that offer.
Justin McElroy
Insufferable. Yeah, I'm already suffering twice.
Travis McElroy
Okay, I love you too. Okay, bye, Joel. Sorry about that, guys. Yeah, hi. What's up, Trav Nation? It's me, your middle is brother Travis. Big dog. Wolf over him. Vroom. The heater McElroy.
Griffin McElroy
Hold on one second, guys. I am also getting a phone call. What's that, Joel? Bill Belichick wants me to play for the New England Patriots to replace Gronk. Yeah, that shouldn't be an issue at all. I beat him at ads, so I don't.
Justin McElroy
Is that Joel? Bill Bellamy wants.
Griffin McElroy
I don't know why I couldn't take
Justin McElroy
over his hosting jobs. All of them.
Griffin McElroy
What's that? Hold on, Joel, I'm getting a call from Bel.
Justin McElroy
Biv DeVoe wants to make it Bell. Biv DeVoe and Justin.
Griffin McElroy
Oh, shit. Guys, I'm getting the call up. The Seahawks want me to. Guys, Marshawn lynch called for the Seahawks. He said join my you guys fight it out chat.
Justin McElroy
Did you hear?
Clint McElroy
Hey, did you hear?
Griffin McElroy
Sorry, guys, because we beat Rob Gronkowski for best Podcast Ad reads at the iHeartRadio podcast awards. I've been getting nonstop calls from NFL coaches like Bill Belichick and the guy who does the Seahawks to come and play for them. I guess the rumor went around that because we're so good at ads and we beat Gronk at it by the transitive property, we could beat him at football. I don't know.
Justin McElroy
I just want to ask. Listen, we won the I Heart Media Podcast award for best ad reads. Okay, listen, it's. Yeah. And yeah, we are going to talk about it. We're so desperate for recognition. Here's what I want to say. Harold, Dispatch.
Griffin McElroy
Okay. Wait.
Clint McElroy
Are you a Boys Make Good?
Griffin McElroy
Did they tell you that we're going to be good?
Clint McElroy
Local Boys Make Good is a headline
Travis McElroy
I've waited to see my whole life.
Justin McElroy
And I know maybe you couldn't give
Clint McElroy
it to me when we did the TV show there. Maybe we couldn't give it to me after our failed podcasting book. I get that.
Justin McElroy
That's fair. Although, you know what I recently discovered
Clint McElroy
on a very obscure New York Times bestseller list.
Travis McElroy
It did appear at number nine.
Clint McElroy
Hell yeah.
Justin McElroy
But anyway, yeah, dude. Yeah, it's actually a hit. But Chuck Norris dies. It's breaking news. Top banner. I can't even get a mensch. I get illusionist Rick Thomas performing at the Boyd County Public Library, Ashland, bro.
Travis McElroy
Oh, shit, he is.
Clint McElroy
You can't get Local Boys Make Good.
Justin McElroy
You can't bust me off. Turns out the best ad reader in
Clint McElroy
the world lives in Huntington, West Virginia.
Justin McElroy
There's some mental parenthetical.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, there's some context. Yeah. Some context that is missing from that headline. I would say I am surprised Chuck Norris took top billing. That man has literally no connection to West Virginia whatsoever. He was not a West Virginia.
Travis McElroy
Having been there in person, they. I'll just say it. I think I heart Radio Media Podcast Awards were being very coy with me. Were really slow, burning it.
Justin McElroy
Right.
Travis McElroy
Making me feel like there's no chance. Oh, we don't even know if you're on the list. Oh, wait, here you are. Oh, you had a plus one. We don't even know that. We might not be able to let you on the floor. We didn't put you in the reserved couch seats. And all the other winners walked up.
Clint McElroy
Yeah, we really were playing it close to the vest.
Travis McElroy
And I was like, well, there's no way we won. Right? Cause they don't even act like they wanted me here.
Justin McElroy
They always do that to the people who are gonna be winning the biggest awards. They treat them the worst so that
Griffin McElroy
they look, we've got a mind Michael J. Jordan on the list. I'm so sorry. We just can't leave.
Travis McElroy
I'm looking around. They're naming, you know, best podcast ensemble and they're the guys from Basement Yard. Go from a very comfortable looking couch like that, they got to sit on inside a cordoned off area. And I'm standing like three people deep behind the robes.
Griffin McElroy
That's so sick.
Travis McElroy
Standing for the whole hour and 20 minutes.
Griffin McElroy
Travis, you had been up on that swing, I would have been uncomfortable about what that meant for our. Kind of like our profile, our options.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, they didn't let me up there. They did a. And here's some other awards, right, for anyone who didn't watch. You can watch the highlights on the McRoy family Instagram. I just had a gut feeling when they were like, here's some other pre selected awards or whatever, where I was like, ad reads is gonna be in there.
Griffin McElroy
I was gonna ask how you knew to record that montage because of your certainty that they.
Justin McElroy
The writing was on the wall.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, Grif.
Griffin McElroy
Quite literally on a big screen. And it said best and then us. And then it had us up on there.
Travis McElroy
And I wasn't looking at the screen, as you can see in the shot. So I didn't see our logo come up. I did not know we had one until they said, my brother. My brother and me. And the deep shock I felt I had to stop filming.
Griffin McElroy
It felt like it was quite a long TikTok Long Vine. One of those vertical videos that you shot of you sitting there as all the other award winners in that montage were announced. And I was like, I bet this is building up to, like a killer. Like a killer gag at the end. But instead, you actually got surprised out of your reverie by our success in this.
Justin McElroy
What I loved about that moment, Trav of Glory, is that how you didn't film yourself, like, reacting to it or anything. Like, I like how it's like 30 minutes of other podcasts that we don't know about. One second of us, and then you're like, cut the feed.
Griffin McElroy
Like, you don't, like.
Justin McElroy
You don't, like, ask people. You don't look around at people and like, say, that's us. Like, that was your moment to, like, draw focus.
Clint McElroy
You know what I mean? Or like, Yelp or something.
Griffin McElroy
You just said. You said what?
Clint McElroy
Like, we don't stay with you.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, in an angry way. Like you were mad about it. Let me just. I'll play. Takes five seconds. Let's just hear Travis's reaction. My brother. My brother and me.
Clint McElroy
What? What the.
Justin McElroy
Thank you, Rachel.
Travis McElroy
Okay, that sentence sound mad. You sound mad. You sound angry. That was mad.
Clint McElroy
I was so confused.
Justin McElroy
What the fuck?
Clint McElroy
Cause I was there.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, right. And they were like, this guy won. So I had to go. Then I went back to the table that had told me I might not be able to even stand on the floor. I might have to sit in the bleachers or whatever.
Griffin McElroy
Did you have to ask for your award?
Justin McElroy
Hey.
Travis McElroy
And I was like, hey, so do I need to go somewhere to get it?
Clint McElroy
Fuck.
Travis McElroy
And then I had to stand there for five seconds. Come on, Travis. Fuck.
Clint McElroy
Give me just a second to fucking suck.
Justin McElroy
Give me a second.
Clint McElroy
You lived it already.
Travis McElroy
You've been sleeping with me.
Justin McElroy
Give me a second.
Griffin McElroy
This moment, vicariously. And we need to process it. If you could just give us a second before adding any more information to the pile.
Justin McElroy
Okay.
Griffin McElroy
Just a quick breathing. Exit.
Travis McElroy
Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Justin McElroy
Okay. So.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
And I want everyone to know I was so uncomfortable, but all I was thinking was, if I can get a shot of me holding this award, it'll be the culmination of this whole trip
Griffin McElroy
of a lifetime's work.
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
So I stood there for, like, five minutes while someone was texting with someone else until they looked up and said, oh, they'll mail it to you. And then I was like, oh. And then I had to slink away from the table, like, well, I guess that ends this interaction.
Justin McElroy
It's actually worse. It's worse that you want. It's worse. How could it be worse to win?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, I'll say.
Clint McElroy
How could that be more humiliating?
Griffin McElroy
I will say this in this one.
Travis McElroy
I had to spell our last name twice, too.
Clint McElroy
Sucks, dude. Fuck.
Griffin McElroy
I will say this. I'm glad we won. It's exciting. It does kill the joke. There was a pretty good gag there, running five years running, that we would continue to be nominated for the best podcast ad read with the iHeartMedia Podcast Awards. And we will be beaten out by someone who was actually genuinely much, much more famous than we are. That was, like, a fun gag.
Justin McElroy
Maybe we will have. Maybe with this win, we've established enough critical credibility. And I will say the iHeartMedia podcasting awards have bought themselves some credibility by recognizing one of the old dogs and one of the best to ever do it. We invented the game in 2010.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Okay.
Griffin McElroy
After like, four to five years after it was invented by other people.
Justin McElroy
Five years after the game was invented. We invented the game. And now maybe they're going to start recognizing us in some other more prestigious, more on stage categories.
Travis McElroy
You know what I mean?
Justin McElroy
Maybe the Lifetime Achievement Awards.
Griffin McElroy
Oh, dude.
Clint McElroy
If not us, who?
Justin McElroy
Kevin Pereira?
Clint McElroy
Fuck off.
Travis McElroy
Well, it was.
Clint McElroy
Don't take.
Travis McElroy
It was Perry Gross.
Clint McElroy
I like Kevin Pereira.
Montagne
I know.
Clint McElroy
I don't know why you said that.
Griffin McElroy
That was so mean to Kevin Pereira.
Travis McElroy
They gave it to Terry Gross.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Clint McElroy
No, no radio people.
Justin McElroy
I'll be furious, dude.
Clint McElroy
Zack Shepard.
Travis McElroy
No, I think we need to make a campaign for Best Advice Podcast. Cause I think that would be Best Comedy Podcast. We might even be in consideration. Best Advice Podcast. Podcast.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, dude. Cause I need my kid asking me why I lose Best Advice pod every year.
Griffin McElroy
That will take some of my power away in the homestead.
Travis McElroy
Best Travel Podcast.
Griffin McElroy
I don't even think that.
Justin McElroy
Best Travis Podcast.
Travis McElroy
Best Travis Podcast.
Justin McElroy
Why is there not a Best Travis in the awards?
Travis McElroy
Thank you.
Griffin McElroy
There's a lot of big heavy hitters named Travis and I can think of three off the top of my head.
Travis McElroy
I wouldn't have felt so bad about having to spell my last name twice if there were a bunch of other Travis's for the. No McElroy.
Griffin McElroy
Now wait a minute. For this award, did you tell them to put your first name on it also?
Travis McElroy
I don't think they. I think they'll just put my brother. My. I don't think they'll put Trav. I don't think they were recognizing my personal excellence. I did call dibs on the trophy though. You did?
Griffin McElroy
I mean, you went to the thing. I think that's only fair. I thought Travis would be a really fun bit because you have like the YouTube play buttons.
Travis McElroy
Correct.
Griffin McElroy
How many of those do we have to.
Travis McElroy
And the 100 million.
Griffin McElroy
100 million streams. I would love maybe photographs of all those that I can frame and put in my background. Like photographs of the awards. Do you think that would be okay? Would that be fun? Can you send me some high res glossy JPEGs of our awards?
Travis McElroy
Yeah, maybe I'll do like a glamour shots of it. You know what I mean?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. I'll set up a whole display with my fucking senior pictures in my senior pictures.
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Folded.
Griffin McElroy
That's a cool look. I found that.
Justin McElroy
I feel so bad about what I said about Kevin Perrer.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Like he's not even that much of a podcasting guy. Like a classic media personality. He's got a great name. It was just like a pull in the moment. And I'm sitting here like, I can't. I can't stand by it.
Griffin McElroy
No.
Clint McElroy
You know what I mean?
Justin McElroy
But it's too long in the past for me to like not Kevin Perrebus will be like, it's done. You know what I mean?
Griffin McElroy
It's clipped.
Justin McElroy
And I don't know how I'm gonna make it up to Kevin Pereira.
Travis McElroy
I have no problem with you know,
Justin McElroy
like, I have no. Nothing with. I just. It was like a. A quick pull in the moment, and I feel really bad about it.
Travis McElroy
Do you think, Justin, that Best ad read award has gone to your head and you're trying to start some beef now that they're going to cover in the tabloids?
Justin McElroy
No, Trav, I think I'm the same as always.
Griffin McElroy
He put sunglasses on.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
I can't say something that felt not.
Clint McElroy
They could tell from the tone.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. Hey, this is an advice show, and we will get to the ads because I know.
Travis McElroy
That's why you're all fucking third wishes. We'll start Conan in the next.
Clint McElroy
Let's put your game here before I
Travis McElroy
know an ad, vice versa. Let us get some of this bullshit out of the way, and then we'll
Clint McElroy
fire it up and get paid.
Travis McElroy
This is an ad versus the best of the vids.
Clint McElroy
You want to see how we do
Travis McElroy
it where we do ads and vice? That's what it is, baby. Ad vice.
Justin McElroy
People keep saying put the ads first.
Clint McElroy
Daddy. Yeah, you gotta pre Roll me, Papa.
Travis McElroy
45 minutes of ads, 15 minutes of bits. Switch it up.
Clint McElroy
Just one little audio stinger, Daddy.
Travis McElroy
Just one stinger.
Griffin McElroy
Inserted dynamic code.
Clint McElroy
Just a promo code. Just a promo code or something. Earl me. Earl me, Papa.
Justin McElroy
Earl me with the URL.
Clint McElroy
Earl me. Do terms and conditions apply, Daddy.
Griffin McElroy
All right.
Travis McElroy
Too far, too far, too far.
Griffin McElroy
Too many times. You felt it.
Justin McElroy
I'm a father. I'm a freshman. I'm a freshman.
Travis McElroy
Give me an ad, father.
Clint McElroy
I'm a freshman.
Travis McElroy
We're ad daddies.
Justin McElroy
So I go on freshman in my university's small theater department. And frequently the group goes to a drive in after rehearsals, events, and the like. They go here for the large playground it contains. I figured these nights would be a good time to.
Travis McElroy
I'm gonna burp.
Clint McElroy
Holy shit, man.
Travis McElroy
Podcast award winning.
Griffin McElroy
I need to shut my door. I'm cussing a lot.
Travis McElroy
Professionals take notice. Other award shows, BAFTAs, Golden Globes.
Griffin McElroy
We deserve one of those. Now you didn't do it into the microphone. And I'm like, glad for that. Like, that means a. I still have.
Justin McElroy
Here's what's hard. Is it still.
Griffin McElroy
It's still in there, man. Yeah.
Clint McElroy
It's gonna become a fart. I'm not a science guy, but I think that's why we didn't win best science Podcast. Now I'm gonna fart on the podcast. It'll be the second half.
Justin McElroy
Damn it.
Clint McElroy
They go on.
Justin McElroy
Sorry.
Travis McElroy
The question continues.
Justin McElroy
I'm a freshman in my university Small theater department. And frequently the group goes to a drive in after rehearsals, events and the like, they go here for the large playground it contains. I figured these nights would be a good time to endear myself to these kind folks. Trouble is, I'm a bit of an introvert, so I need your help, brothers. What is the most interesting slash most kick ass way to interface with a playground to make about two dozen theater kids in their 20s like you? That's from sweating on the swing set in West Texas.
Griffin McElroy
All right, this question confused me for a bit, but now I. Now I understand it. You quite all right, brother?
Clint McElroy
I don't know who that was. I think the videotape will reveal I was quite still through all of that.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, you have your hands up on your knees like you're in Masterpiece Theater.
Justin McElroy
Yes. That gentleman such as myself as a wooden burp.
Griffin McElroy
I got wooden freeboard. Yeah, man, but you're ripping hoagies back there like you're on the man show, dude.
Clint McElroy
I apologized in advance, Griffin. I tried to stop.
Travis McElroy
What more do you want from him?
Clint McElroy
He is but a man. Holy shit. Full out. You know, it can be tempting once people win an award.
Justin McElroy
Once again, superlatives are tossed out to
Clint McElroy
think of them as gods. But I'm still.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, flesh and blood.
Clint McElroy
I see blood, you know.
Griffin McElroy
So what are some cool playground tricks you can do to impress people in their 20s? I will say that this is a tall order. I will say looking cool. Looking cool. Looking cool as an adult on playground. This isn't to shame anyone who has a playful spirit and the heart of a child's mind. Like, that's beautiful. And I love that. And that's good. I don't know how to do it in a way where someone will be like, damn, did you see the way they jumped over the monkey bars? Like, it would need to be pretty crazy like that.
Travis McElroy
You know, I. In my life, I have seen countless people try to dance funny.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
In a way to like, make people laugh. Right. Because how funny they're dancing a thing. I've only ever seen one man dance in a humorous way. That made me happy. His name was Christopher Stoker. Do you know why?
Griffin McElroy
Why?
Travis McElroy
Cause he was having fun. He wasn't doing it for anybody else.
Griffin McElroy
Okay.
Travis McElroy
He was just having fun. It wasn't for the audience.
Justin McElroy
That's it.
Clint McElroy
He was just having a great time.
Griffin McElroy
So there's nothing cooler than like going down a big old swirly slide and enjoying it for you and not worrying about everyone else?
Travis McElroy
Yeah, man. I think so.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Authentically Doing monkey bars. Cool shit.
Justin McElroy
I mean, if he did it in a fast, elegant way, that looks like you were born there and you're like, yeah, I lived in the jungles for a while. I'm pretty good with like Tarzan kind of stuff. Like, I've trained there.
Travis McElroy
No problem. Nonchalantly hang upside down.
Justin McElroy
I'm rereading last night. Here, brothers. What is the most interesting, most kick ass way to interface with the playground to make about two dozen theater kids in their 20s like you? I have to imagine this is written from like an alternate dimension where mind altering substances and alcohol do not exist. Because the answer to your question, since time immemorial for how do you get a bunch of 20 something theater kids to like you? Is you produce alcohol and drugs and perhaps tobacco. That is a patented method for a lot of social groups, but definitely for this crew. If you are the one person who's like, hey, I brought this huge bottle of vodka.
Clint McElroy
Like comically huge.
Justin McElroy
Like, I can't drink all this, you
Griffin McElroy
know, I mean, that's.
Clint McElroy
And it's not safe.
Griffin McElroy
It's been quite a while since any of us have been in our 20s, though. Maybe that's not how it.
Justin McElroy
God, man. I'm just saying.
Travis McElroy
I never did any of this.
Justin McElroy
There was smoke.
Clint McElroy
I mean, here's what we all. This is the problem with nobody smoking.
Griffin McElroy
Right?
Clint McElroy
You know?
Travis McElroy
Thank you.
Clint McElroy
This is the problem with Justin's right.
Travis McElroy
Bring it back.
Clint McElroy
No, no.
Griffin McElroy
But we need a better outside activity that is only outside. We need sticky.
Travis McElroy
Flipping a coin while you lean against a light.
Griffin McElroy
You can do that inside. I want it to be big and messy. A big, messy activity that everyone likes to do out in court. Super addicted to doing outside, but you don't get sick from it.
Justin McElroy
The truth of it is, we know about vaping nicotine. We know about it, but we can't change the fact that when you see someone smoking a cigarette, you want to go join them and smoke a cigarette with them. And when you see someone vaping, you want to go back to bed. Yeah, that's. You know what I mean?
Travis McElroy
Like those.
Justin McElroy
It's not a good substitute.
Griffin McElroy
And this is. We are only talking to theater kids right now. We are only talking to theater kids right now.
Travis McElroy
It's different for you. You gotta live authentically and in your art. We get it. What about blowing bubbles?
Griffin McElroy
Blowing bubbles is a really good answer, Travis. Blowing bubbles is a really big one.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, big ones.
Griffin McElroy
Big.
Justin McElroy
At the Wonderworks, they had this bubble thing that you could stand in and you lift a hoop up around You. And it makes a bubble. You brought the supplies for that?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Clint McElroy
Oh.
Travis McElroy
It's the closest you feel to having magic. I just made a force field bubbles.
Griffin McElroy
They got one of them at the National Children's museum here in D.C. and sometimes I go inside and I put a big bubble up around myself, and I feel like that's the only moment of quiet and peace.
Travis McElroy
Yes.
Griffin McElroy
That I know now as an adult, 100% if I'm not inside the bubble, like, everything's safe in the bubble, I guess, is what I'm saying. And I love it. And I wish I was in the bubble all day.
Travis McElroy
Do you know what theater kids love?
Griffin McElroy
What?
Travis McElroy
That there's not enough in a theater kid population. An audience.
Justin McElroy
Okay.
Travis McElroy
Theater kids are always trying to impress each other. What if you were just there being like, that was a great. You hung on the monkey bars for a really long time, and I thought that was awesome.
Griffin McElroy
Okay.
Travis McElroy
You're an audience. You're the audience for them.
Justin McElroy
This is race. Being the one person in this crew that is not trying to pull focus will eventually make you the king of the hill. Right? Yes. Like, they will come to you just by.
Clint McElroy
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
Griffin McElroy
Or unless.
Travis McElroy
Unless what?
Griffin McElroy
If instead of applause and cheering, you gave him some notes. You just gave him some notes. Now you're the director of the theater Frank Group.
Travis McElroy
The most powerful.
Griffin McElroy
The most powerful one that there is. Nice work on the monkey bars. But, like, what were you thinking? What was going through your mind when
Travis McElroy
you left all that loose change in your pockets?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. Just next time, something to think about. Great job. Great work, but I know you have more in you.
Justin McElroy
Maybe you could bully people, and then when they get to you, you just be like, huh. Use that.
Griffin McElroy
Use that. Yes.
Travis McElroy
Oh, I like that. Think about how you're feeling right now.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, use that.
Griffin McElroy
Climb that slide.
Justin McElroy
Think about how when I just pushed you over the bench and you fell and you hurt your knee and you're mad at me and you're crying a little bit.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. Use that. When I rubbed your water bottle on my butt and I threw it in the trash can. The feeling you have right now. Put it on the slide. Leave it all on the slide.
Travis McElroy
There it is. There it is.
Griffin McElroy
I'll apologize later when we've wrapped this sesh.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, but right now it's about growing.
Griffin McElroy
Now it's about growing, and you need to. You really need to get your fucking act together.
Justin McElroy
I make maps for a living on the computer, and I have a bachelor's degree in geography. Super cool. Only I have a terrible sense of direction. If I didn't have my phone for navigation, I would frequently get lost. All my friends and family poke fun about how funny it is that I'm a geographer with no sense of direction. How do I get them to stop? Or how can I become a better geographer? This is from confused cartographer in California. They have. Let's talk about it.
Travis McElroy
They have fundamentally misunderstood your purpose. If you had a perfect innate sense of direction, you wouldn't need maps, Right? That's why you've dedicated your life to this.
Griffin McElroy
We are all attuned to different sort of vibrations, frequencies of the universe. Yes. I have a theory that everyone possesses within them an innate and super, super powerful ability to know either the temperature or the time or their bearings or like one of these things.
Travis McElroy
The vibe.
Griffin McElroy
The vibe. Well, God, that's a. That to me encompasses like a few of these things. But like, I usually know to about a three minute margin of error what the time currently is.
Justin McElroy
Me too. I usually know what time.
Griffin McElroy
I usually just kind of know it.
Justin McElroy
Generally I can tell you within about three.
Travis McElroy
No idea whatsoever.
Griffin McElroy
I just know it by feeling it.
Justin McElroy
That missing a niche or nurture thing though, Grif, because mine comes from retail, okay? Mine comes from retail and thinking about time in every possible permutation and counting every minute mentally, like I just generally know what time it is.
Griffin McElroy
Travis, are you maybe. Are you a temperature? This is our new enneagram that we've. Our maybe 15th enneagram that we've come up with on this show. Are you a temperature guy?
Travis McElroy
Yeah, I would say I'm pretty good at that. I'm pretty within. I would say 3 degrees, 5 degrees.
Griffin McElroy
You said you're not a time guy.
Travis McElroy
I don't think you're not a time guy. Not a direction guy.
Griffin McElroy
Don't think you're a directions guy. For sure.
Travis McElroy
Not a direction. So like I got a pretty good. I can sense when people are mad at me. Does that count? I have a good sense of. I can read the room pretty well at this point from years of struggle at it.
Griffin McElroy
Oh, can you?
Travis McElroy
Yeah, Griffin, I can.
Griffin McElroy
I'm just fucking.
Travis McElroy
I have a sense of taste. How about that? Sense of taste? I'm a super taster. Did the thing where I put the
Griffin McElroy
weird strip on my tongue, man. I'm talking about the axies of the powers.
Justin McElroy
Superpowers.
Griffin McElroy
Superpowers.
Travis McElroy
Well, there's gotta be a fourth one. Cause it's not time direction for me.
Griffin McElroy
Time direction.
Travis McElroy
I'm okay at temperature.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
What about doing stuff.
Travis McElroy
Not good at that. I have adhd. I'm feeling very judged.
Griffin McElroy
No, it's not judged. I'm not judging you, Travis, as much as I'm trying to justify my own new, very profitable enneagram.
Travis McElroy
But fair enough.
Justin McElroy
If he can't find a slot for you to fit in Travel, then it
Griffin McElroy
means it's not an Enneagram break. It's just a fucking idea.
Clint McElroy
So he's not.
Justin McElroy
It's not like a square peg kind of deal. He's like trying to make a new Travis peg.
Clint McElroy
You know what I mean?
Travis McElroy
Like, you know what? I'll say.
Griffin McElroy
Speed.
Travis McElroy
Speed is very good. Speed's really good.
Clint McElroy
Trap speed.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Clint McElroy
Is so general.
Griffin McElroy
No, man. Like when your body is moving. When your body is moving or when you're driving in a car. You know, sort of the speed that you're at, that's super.
Clint McElroy
Oh, speed.
Justin McElroy
Not just like the Flash.
Travis McElroy
No, you're not listing speed. I'm not in touch with the Speed Force.
Griffin McElroy
God knows I tried, but he knows how fast he is at all times.
Justin McElroy
Okay, that's. I like that a lot. That's good. That's good. That makes sense.
Griffin McElroy
That's all. That's four. I think four is all of them. I don't know that there's much else
Justin McElroy
to it you probably don't need. But I will say direction. This is a really good one because I'm truly embarrassed, and I mean embarrassed in a real sense of how little an idea I have of this on a day to day basis. It is something I've thought about. I think about a lot. Like when I look out the windows of my house, sometimes I'll think, that's rising right now, so this must be east. And I'll think about it for a second and then it's like gone. So like, I don't know what direction this is. Like I'm at my house. I don't know. I don't know any of it.
Griffin McElroy
It's humiliating, right?
Clint McElroy
I don't know how to.
Justin McElroy
I just.
Clint McElroy
I don't know.
Travis McElroy
There are many incredible things that I am impressed by, by my wife on a regular basis. But her innate sense of direction might as well be the power of an Olympian God to me. Where I'm like, who even knows where north is? And she's like, she's that way. And I'm like, whaaaat?
Griffin McElroy
She got those strong hammer bones in the middle ear.
Travis McElroy
I don't know how she does it. She just knows.
Justin McElroy
Griffin's telling you it's the Hammer.
Griffin McElroy
It's the strong hammer bones inside the middle ear. So, yeah, don't be upset. You just. You're on a different axis. That's fine. And you chose this job. I would say this is a job that is probably more commonly held by people who are more sort of directions folks. But have you guys ever really tried to draw a map? Cause that'll humble you real fucking quick. I have a wonderful, fantastical world. Let me draw a map of it. And then it's like, wow, this looks one just kind of like the United States, because I guess that's like the only. And it looks so shitty. There's like, square borders. Justin's trying to really.
Travis McElroy
That's north.
Griffin McElroy
He's got his sexton out. That's cool.
Justin McElroy
That's north. Is it like. I don't know.
Griffin McElroy
I mean, you use your phone, so. No, I mean, I'm looking for the hammer bones and I don't.
Travis McElroy
But I'll actually, if we were more outdoor boys, we would know directions better.
Griffin McElroy
Absolutely.
Travis McElroy
Maybe.
Justin McElroy
But then there's people who are, like, talking about taking a road trip, and then they say the right directions for it. You know what I mean? Like, I went up to this place, and they're like, it is up. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know.
Travis McElroy
How did you know that?
Justin McElroy
That's crazy. You know, for me, it's just always went over. Over to, I don't know, this place.
Griffin McElroy
All maps are kind of bogus anyway, Right. So who's the faults in our stars? Not in ourselves.
Clint McElroy
Whoa.
Justin McElroy
Well, there are different projections.
Travis McElroy
I know.
Justin McElroy
That are more accurate.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. And then there's the one that makes America look so virile and powerful and strong.
Travis McElroy
So turgid.
Griffin McElroy
So turgid and bigger than all the other countries combined.
Justin McElroy
If you had a compass all the time, eventually you'd, like, connect facing in different directions with, like, the compass, the direction. Like, eventually you'd think about, like, oh, yeah, that E is always here when
Clint McElroy
I'm looking this way.
Justin McElroy
This must be kind of easterly.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Yes.
Travis McElroy
I should label walls of my house.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, that's good.
Travis McElroy
You are looking E. I'm looking E Now I'm looking at E and C. And then over there. Swah.
Griffin McElroy
We know swa.
Travis McElroy
That's snow.
Griffin McElroy
Look out for Snuh.
Montagne
South.
Griffin McElroy
North is not in a direction that I'm aware of.
Travis McElroy
Fuck, that explains so much. Why did I label that wall Snuh?
Griffin McElroy
Should we go to Money Zone?
Travis McElroy
We've waited.
Justin McElroy
We made him wait long enough, huh? Yeah. Here it Comes.
Montagne
It's better. It's better.
Travis McElroy
Well, boys, we got the first.
Clint McElroy
Do you guys ever think I got the yips. Did you guys ever think about cats?
Griffin McElroy
Cats, cats, cats.
Travis McElroy
If you eat cat food.
Griffin McElroy
Cat, cat, cat.
Clint McElroy
I have eaten cat. Do you give.
Griffin McElroy
Do you also know what cat is? No.
Travis McElroy
ALF would love.
Griffin McElroy
Guys, take a breath. Take a beat. We gotta come back. We gotta come back. We're. We can do this because we're a family. And you know who else is a part of my family? All your guys. Cats. Oh.
Justin McElroy
Okay. Listen, it makes the most sense, I think, for me to do this. Hi, I'm Justin McElroy. I have two cats, and my wife likes them better than me sometimes. But the way that I am trying to get into all their good graces is by feeding the cats. Smalls. We used to do dry food, and they kind of graze throughout the day. It's been a lot better for their overall health, for their coats.
Griffin McElroy
These cats look so incredible.
Justin McElroy
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Clint McElroy
That's. That, baby. That was good.
Griffin McElroy
Justin's back on the horse, man. Did you hear him, Trav? He, like.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, man.
Travis McElroy
He nailed it.
Griffin McElroy
He got keyed in, and he just, like, surfed the whole way. He closed out the pipe, dude.
Justin McElroy
Let's not even do the next one.
Travis McElroy
Wait, no, wait.
Griffin McElroy
We should.
Travis McElroy
No, we do now, hold on.
Clint McElroy
Dude, we're out. No, let's not even wrap the show.
Justin McElroy
Let's, like, wrap the show.
Travis McElroy
There.
Justin McElroy
Thanks, y'.
Griffin McElroy
All.
Justin McElroy
That's gonna do it for us.
Travis McElroy
I want to say. Ma', am.
Justin McElroy
Out.
Griffin McElroy
As we say in every episode, a huge thanks to Squarespace. Also, we do actually say that every episode. We are sponsored in part by Squarespace this week. Squarespace is God. A genie. But instead of living in a lamp, Squarespace is God. Squarespace is gone. Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Squarespace is life.
Justin McElroy
Let's start this one over.
Travis McElroy
Squarespace.
Griffin McElroy
Wait, start it over like that. Like you want to do It.
Justin McElroy
Travis had a good direction. Grif built on it.
Travis McElroy
I'm going to do big energy Squarespace, Big energy websites, huge ideas.
Griffin McElroy
Okay. Yes.
Travis McElroy
Squarespace websites for you. Yes.
Griffin McElroy
Do you need it?
Justin McElroy
Everything.
Griffin McElroy
More. Okay, Zoom out more.
Travis McElroy
Okay, idea.
Justin McElroy
It's not just about websites.
Griffin McElroy
It's not just about websites.
Travis McElroy
Goods.
Clint McElroy
It's event services.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. You can offer them both and get paid with money that you use.
Griffin McElroy
I can offer Squarespace. They will trade in services. So I'll say, like Squarespace, if you make me up a beautiful website, I will come and I'll wash your car and do all your chores for a month.
Travis McElroy
Well, you can offer goods and services through Squarespace.
Griffin McElroy
Okay.
Travis McElroy
And get paid through Squarespace. And they don't say this, but I'm gonna say if people fall behind on those payments, Squarespace is gonna enforce that for you. They'll send out their bruisers to break some kneecaps.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, they got some huge folks working for them over at Squarespace.
Justin McElroy
I don't.
Griffin McElroy
I do not mess around with those dudes.
Travis McElroy
No. It's like 400 pounds of pure muscle. No bones, no blood, no skin, just 400 pounds of pure muscle. They got agony.
Griffin McElroy
They got Crusher with a K over there working for him. And if someone does not pay you the money that you are owed through a Squarespace website, Crusher with a K will come and, well, there's a reason for his namesake, is what I'll say.
Travis McElroy
He has a big metal robotic crab claw.
Griffin McElroy
He has a huge crab claw and a brain, a visible brain in his stomach. A hindbrain.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, man. And the turtles have not been able to stop him, man.
Justin McElroy
They've been trying.
Griffin McElroy
They can't stop him because they don't know which brain to target. But Squarespace gives you everything you need to make beautiful, functional websites and make them look good with award winning website templates. You don't need to know anything about frickin coding or art or UI or anything. They got you and they'll make you look like you do know what you're doing. So head to squarespace.com mybrother for a free trial. And when you're ready to launch, use offer code, my brother to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. I felt him. I felt the Lord moving through me.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, man.
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Alden Ford
Hello, this is Alden Ford and Mujanzo Fagari, two of the creators of Mission to Zix, your favorite improvised, obsessively sound designed sci fi sitcom here on the Max Fun Network. And the news is we're back with
Mujanzo Fagari
an all new miniseries set in the six universe, the Young Old Derf Chronicles. Yeah, will Derf find his own killer before it's too late to find out how that question could possibly make sense? Well, you just have to tune in.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Alden Ford
And as always, it's ambitious and labor intensive to a frankly absurd degree.
Mujanzo Fagari
Indeed.
Alden Ford
So if you are looking for a little break from your own galaxy, we would love for you to check it out.
Mujanzo Fagari
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Justin McElroy
I wanted to have a conversation with you guys. Oh, this is an idea I've been thinking about because we got, we got the Easter holidays are coming up and the shelves are starting to get filled with, with Easter candy.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
And I wanted to hit you guys with something I've been thinking about and I wanted to see if I can defend it in this sort of like thesis sense. I think Easter candy is the best candy.
Griffin McElroy
Okay. Yeah, give me some. Quantify this for me a little bit.
Justin McElroy
So if I'm thinking Easter candy, here's what I'm like putting up on the bench, right. I'm looking at Cadbury Mini Eggs all timer Cadbury Creme Eggs. Like smashing it, right?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Jelly beans I like in a wide variety. But if you don't want to give those to Easter. Yeah, I can get it.
Griffin McElroy
I don't eat Jolly Rancher flavored jelly beans any other time of year. Only at Easter time.
Travis McElroy
Those big old ones that are kind of like a mix between jelly bean and like gumdrop and licorice.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, no, thanks for that.
Travis McElroy
I love those. Honestly, I love those.
Justin McElroy
Okay, so then the other ones that I'm gonna throw in here are one Robin's eggs. Yes, the malted milk. Robin's eggs. That's a perfect size.
Griffin McElroy
You like that shatter, you like that.
Justin McElroy
I like shattering.
Griffin McElroy
And then the.
Justin McElroy
And then I think. I don't know if there's a specific name for these things, but like the marshmallow eggs that have, like, enrobed in like a hard candy. And it all tastes very plasticky and fake, but it's like bright blue, Bright pink. Bright yellow candy shell on the outside, marshmallow on the inside, shaped like eggs. You know what I'm talking about?
Griffin McElroy
No idea.
Travis McElroy
No.
Justin McElroy
Okay, so anyway, but marshmallow eggs, things wrapped in chocolate. Easter candy is the best candy.
Griffin McElroy
Holiday candy. That's all I'm saying. You're saying holiday candy or best overall all candy?
Justin McElroy
I mean, it's better than.
Griffin McElroy
I'll say it's better than. Halloween's sort of standalone candy is almost universally dog shit. And I love Halloween. I do. But, like, miss me with all that
Justin McElroy
for a candy holiday?
Griffin McElroy
No way. Yeah.
Justin McElroy
For a candy holiday. It doesn't come to party. Like, it doesn't come with anything.
Griffin McElroy
Christmas.
Travis McElroy
Now, I do say. Wait, Reese's pumpkins are the best version of Reese's Holiday. Like, shaped things.
Justin McElroy
Okay, now I will say the egg is very close, but Travis is correct.
Clint McElroy
Of course.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Now listen, the tree.
Clint McElroy
They're fucking robbing you people.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, look at it.
Clint McElroy
Yeah, look at the shape.
Travis McElroy
And there's something. Consistency is not right.
Clint McElroy
It's a rectangular package with a triangle in it, folks.
Justin McElroy
They're robbing you fucking blind every.
Griffin McElroy
Every single time. They're robbing you with the trees every time. But it also has candy canes, which are an inedible shape. But it also has chocolate oranges, which almost makes up for the trees and the. And the candy canes, because those.
Justin McElroy
Oh, look who else is here. It's. Candy corn is here with Halloween.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, No, I mean, this is what I'm saying. Easter is clearly the best holiday. Candy holiday.
Justin McElroy
Candy corn, something you can hang on. Can you hang candy corn and malachi and pumpkins on Halloween or is that like a fall punishment?
Griffin McElroy
I think of it as a Halloween. I don't know, guy.
Travis McElroy
Now, Easter does have peeps, which are disgusting.
Justin McElroy
The other one. Thank you, Travis.
Griffin McElroy
It's a huge Easter foul, dude. They're just. They're just big marshmallows, dude.
Justin McElroy
Sickly sweet. Yeah, dude, it's candy. Candy doesn't have to have a point.
Clint McElroy
No, candy does have to have a point.
Travis McElroy
I forgot that Willy Wonka was here. I'm so Sorry.
Clint McElroy
That you, Wonka.
Justin McElroy
Now, that's Freddie Highmore from the hit film Charlie Lucas.
Griffin McElroy
Freddie Highmore. If I go and I take a marshmallow, a little marshmallow, and I dip it in, eat it with my mouth. You can't just say that's candy. Because it's like. It's conceptually kind of busted.
Justin McElroy
No, it's peeps. You can. All right, peeps, fine. I don't agree with you on peeps, especially once they're stale. But I agree with you.
Clint McElroy
That's not a ringing endorsement of anything,
Travis McElroy
that it's better once it's old and stale.
Griffin McElroy
I agree with you that Easter has the best holiday candy. I would not jump to. It is the best candy overall.
Justin McElroy
What about Christmas? Cause Christmas candy does have. It's like chocolate orange. Christmas candy is actually chocolate. Orange is good.
Travis McElroy
And gel. I like gel. Give me a little shiny coins that I can open.
Justin McElroy
I do like to eat the gelt. Yeah, I do like to eat the gel. I actually like the little peppermints with the treat. The gummy. They're like soft peppermints with the pictures of the trees in the middle with the red and white on the outside and the pictures of the trees.
Travis McElroy
Sure, sure, sure.
Griffin McElroy
I love eating Santa's flossy beard. Do you guys know Santa's flossy beard from the Mars. From the Mars Company?
Clint McElroy
You invented it.
Travis McElroy
Do you guys?
Griffin McElroy
I can't celebrate Christmas without chomping down at least two to three Rudolph knobs. If I don't get my Rudolph knobs,
Justin McElroy
there's no Christmas candy. There's no Christmas candy. Okay, so what's better?
Travis McElroy
So the candy.
Justin McElroy
Candy.
Travis McElroy
Red and green M&Ms. Candy cane are my favorite version of. Mm.
Justin McElroy
Okay. And you know what? Christmas bells are good.
Griffin McElroy
Christmas bells are good. Uh. Oh, wait a minute.
Justin McElroy
Belle's a good chocolate shape, but, like.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Oh, man.
Travis McElroy
You know, those actually got ruined for me because my only memory of eating them as a child was at Granny's house.
Griffin McElroy
Granny's house.
Justin McElroy
And they tasted like cigarettes.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, she smoked, like, three packs a
Clint McElroy
day, but I folded it into the appeal. Oh, yeah.
Travis McElroy
Thanks, Granny.
Griffin McElroy
Way to attach those two incredibly similar concepts in my mind.
Justin McElroy
Every time I eat eggs, I think,
Clint McElroy
God, I wish I was smoking.
Griffin McElroy
She was on some Homer Simpson Tomako shit. Just Robin it in.
Clint McElroy
Oh, man.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, but I still think. I mean Christmas candy. I think part of the problem with Easter candy, though, is the best parts of it have been sadly sort of, like, redistributed as, like, Rainbow Cadbury mini eggs. Or, like, peeps get re. You know, repurposed in a lot of really foul permutations, honestly. So they can't keep as much of a lock on it. But. But I don't know. I still feel like Easter candy's the best candy. Okay.
Travis McElroy
I thought because of our recent prestigious award, that maybe it would be nice to take a moment and just kind of class things up around here a little bit with a little work of fart.
Griffin McElroy
We haven't done it for the home game in a while, and maybe, you know, we might have a ton of new listeners, and this is their first episode.
Travis McElroy
Cause after the show. Oh, welcome. Now that we've won the award, we
Griffin McElroy
definitely probably have at least a few ad execs listening. And that's. I don't know that we've done particularly
Travis McElroy
right by them, but I'm gonna tell you right now.
Griffin McElroy
But the fart jokes we're about to do should probably drive home whatever big product placement deals we've been sitting on.
Travis McElroy
I'm calling this one CW themed.
Griffin McElroy
Okay.
Travis McElroy
But I don't know if all these shows were on the cw, but they feel like they were.
Griffin McElroy
Okay.
Justin McElroy
Okay.
Travis McElroy
Up first, Sam and Dean Winchester, aided by Cassiel the Angel, search the world for a good bathroom.
Griffin McElroy
Pooper natural.
Travis McElroy
Yes, Griffin.
Griffin McElroy
What? Pooper natural.
Travis McElroy
That is correct. Pooper natural.
Griffin McElroy
Pooper natural.
Travis McElroy
One point.
Griffin McElroy
Can I raise my hand to, like, buzz in? Cause I'm scared Justin, you're gonna be wrong and think Justin had it first one of these times.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, no, you can. Oh, Justin raised their hand.
Griffin McElroy
Well, don't raise your hand inside the software. Cause people can't, you know, get it.
Justin McElroy
How do we just say bazinga?
Griffin McElroy
Oh, okay.
Travis McElroy
That's buzzing. Okay. The girls field hockey team, lost in the Canadian wilderness, are rescued after months of stink. Lines are seen rising above the trees.
Griffin McElroy
Hmm. Smell O jackets. Bazinga. Smell ojackets. Yes.
Travis McElroy
Smell o jackets is correct, Griffin.
Griffin McElroy
That one felt a little highlights for kids. Like, sort of family circ. Because that one was, like, pretty clean. And I don't know if it belongs in work of fart Smell. Like that.
Clint McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Are you saying Travis is losing his edge?
Griffin McElroy
I'm saying you.
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Maybe the AD award thing maybe has gotten in your head a little bit and you kind of, like, toned it down. Cause usually you'll get, like, jizz or, like, other crazy stuff in this one. And this was just like, what if there were a bunch of aromatic field hockey players? And they.
Travis McElroy
I'm not gonna respond. I thought it was a trav.
Griffin McElroy
I'LL take the point. Don't get me wrong, Travis. I love that I got a point and I got it right. And I did a good job, the best job. But I just. Don't be afraid to be yourself.
Travis McElroy
Upper crust New York teen socialites get into all kinds of scandals which are reported on by an anonymous blogger who also reminds them when it's time to go to the bathroom
Griffin McElroy
for. Go. Oh, I got it. I got it. Bazinga. Go piss girl.
Travis McElroy
Correct.
Griffin McElroy
That one feels good. We're back. We're back on top of it.
Travis McElroy
Thank you very much.
Justin McElroy
If I had come up with the answer, I wouldn't have gotten to laugh at it. So I feel pretty. I'm happy.
Travis McElroy
Okay. Four teens, each with their own secrets to hide, Are plagued by the terrifying and all knowing A who tells everyone about the time that they pooped their pants. Four teens, uh huh.
Justin McElroy
With secrets to hide.
Travis McElroy
Uh huh. Are plagued by the terrifying and all knowing a A who tells everyone about the time they pooped their pants
Griffin McElroy
this summer I turned shitty. No, I don't know.
Travis McElroy
Wrong show.
Justin McElroy
I know where you shit last summer. A knows where you shit last summer.
Travis McElroy
This is where you guys just don't know enough about quality, groundbreaking Pretty Little Liars.
Justin McElroy
Pretty shitty.
Griffin McElroy
Shitty Little Liars.
Travis McElroy
Correct, Griffin. Shitty Little Liars.
Griffin McElroy
Okay, got it. Justin kind of said it at the same time as me, but he said it in like a.
Justin McElroy
It's okay, it's okay.
Travis McElroy
Okay, one more.
Justin McElroy
You deserve it.
Travis McElroy
Blood sucking brothers Stefan and Damon Salvatore battle over the same high school girl they're in love with while also battling loose stool.
Griffin McElroy
May I?
Justin McElroy
Vampire diarrhea.
Travis McElroy
I'm giving it to Justin on that one. Vampire diarrheas.
Griffin McElroy
That's good. I was in the wrong zip code. I was thinking, why?
Justin McElroy
You mean why did you say I'm giving it to Justin after I said vampire diarrheas?
Travis McElroy
Because Griffin said. May I? Before you said anything.
Griffin McElroy
I was gonna say poobla. I didn't say I was gonna say pooblood. Is that what I was gonna say?
Travis McElroy
I think I've actually done poo blood before. Thank you, Travis.
Justin McElroy
That was great. I really grew a lot.
Griffin McElroy
Who won, Travis? Who did the best job?
Travis McElroy
You did win, Griffin. Four to one.
Griffin McElroy
All right. It still feels good.
Montagne
What?
Clint McElroy
How much show can we put into one show? I want a Munch Squat squad.
Justin McElroy
Welcome to Munch Squad's podcast. Within the podcast profile, the latest greatest of brand eating. And this one's a doozy. Pizza Hut launches national campaign updates hand tossed crust recipe. Now this is one of my favorite things. Anytime a restaurant chain has to say one of our staples has this entire time, not, as we've been saying, been the best, but it's actually been so bad that we wanna change it. And I always like to see how people handle this story.
Travis McElroy
We've been hiding the truth. We've been suppressing the truth. People have been trying to get the word out. We've had them killed.
Griffin McElroy
Sorry. It's been so dusty. Gu. We couldn't figure out why it was so dusty without ruining the.
Justin McElroy
So hard. We're giving everything.
Griffin McElroy
We're giving everything. But I swear to God, we're doing this thing in a fully, I swear to you, sterile environment.
Clint McElroy
I'm getting it together.
Griffin McElroy
We're doing our best, Janine. But the dust keeps coming back onto the pizza. It's so hard and granular.
Clint McElroy
And if you think it's bad for
Travis McElroy
us, imagine what it's like for our employees that are all dusty.
Justin McElroy
When it comes to pizza, crust isn't just a detail. It's the main event. Now this is the part. This is where you have, this is where you have to brace yourself, right? Because this is where it gets even worse. Because Pizza Hut is saying like the most important thing and we've been fucking fucked up and we're so, we're so sorry. At Pizza Hut. Crusty. Yeah.
Travis McElroy
In that it's like most of the pizza when you're buying a car, it having like exterior.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, yeah.
Travis McElroy
Is the main event.
Justin McElroy
And it's like.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. It might not be the main thing I look for, but without it. Yeah, it does kind of cease to work.
Griffin McElroy
It's bad soup.
Justin McElroy
Pizza Hut crust reigns supreme. Pizza Hut is officially introducing Hut Crust. A new platform celebrating the bold recognizable crusts that have defined the brand for generations. At the center of this platform is a crave worthy $10 large three topping pizza. Available on fans choice of three iconic crusts. The new and improved hand tossed tavern style or thin and crispy.
Travis McElroy
What's tavern style?
Justin McElroy
It's like a flat. I think it's like a New York style. Like a. I don't actually know. I've never gotten it.
Travis McElroy
Did you say it was Hut crust?
Griffin McElroy
Hut crust. Travison. It's not a crust. It's a platform.
Justin McElroy
It's a platform. This PI day, Pizza Hut announces it is on the hunt for a real paid gig. And this is why I want to bring this story to you. Hut Crust Connoisseur. A first of its kind project created to celebrate the people who love pizza crust. Most. The Hut crust connoisseur becomes the official guardian of the hut crust platform.
Griffin McElroy
Guardian is awesome.
Travis McElroy
Now what
Clint McElroy
happens? People who apply must be willing to
Travis McElroy
have all kinds of crazy sex once they get the job, for everyone will desire them. Will you take up the sword to
Clint McElroy
defend the crust traveler?
Travis McElroy
Many have come before you and sworn allegiance to defend the crust this once century. Yes, sir. Sancho the pizza demon will rise from
Clint McElroy
hell this date and God.
Travis McElroy
You must defeat him.
Griffin McElroy
Please. This date is going so well. It's so hard to meet people in the big city. What did you say your job was? What did you say your job was again? You're a pizza crust guardian. Sasago. Well, he sounds terrible.
Travis McElroy
Well, only here in the Americas, right across the oceans, there are many pizza grass guardians. And once a millennia, we come together.
Justin McElroy
This is why they killed that Buffy
Clint McElroy
reboot, because they were like, Sarah Michelle Gellar is like, it's gonna be about pizza crust. It's gonna be about nothing.
Justin McElroy
And they're like, okay, Sarah, then it's about nothing. Then you have to go. It's a first of its kind. Okay? The Hut crust connoisseur. The hut crust connoisseur becomes. Well, first of all, becomes the only people whose job is harder to explain to my Grandpa Dan than mine. The Hut crust connoisseur becomes the official guardian of Hut crust platform, responsible for tasting and testing all new crust innovations
Travis McElroy
to ensure they're not poisoned for the king.
Griffin McElroy
Is he guarding the platform from Pizza Hut?
Clint McElroy
You've gotta let me get through this fucking sentence. Listen, we did all this bad job for decades.
Travis McElroy
If we start to backslide, it's your job to call us on our bullshit.
Justin McElroy
The Hut crust connoisseur becomes the official guardian of the hot crust platform, responsible for tasting and testing all new crust innovations to ensure they meet Pizza Hut's iconic standards.
Clint McElroy
So what they're basically saying is they're hiring like CI. They're hiring like internal investigations. They're hiring like the Departed. So it's like an internal bureau that's like extra pizza. Like, they're extra judicial, they're extra saucy,
Justin McElroy
they're extra outside the law, right?
Griffin McElroy
This just crust arbiter of sorts, if you will.
Justin McElroy
An arbiter of the crust that protects it sometimes.
Clint McElroy
Which what pizza is saying here is like, we have proven ourselves to be
Justin McElroy
a poor steward of this crust.
Clint McElroy
We can't be trusted. We can't be trusted.
Travis McElroy
The Hut can be crusted.
Griffin McElroy
It's hot.
Travis McElroy
Welcome to pizza.
Griffin McElroy
This is so good. Because then if the pizza is still bad. They can be like, blame fucking Jeremy.
Travis McElroy
He's the guardian.
Justin McElroy
Jeremy said it. Choice. Here's a video of him saying it was choice. Yes. That means literally getting paid to eat pizza crust and a $31,415.92 payment plus free pizza for a year.
Griffin McElroy
Wait, that's not at a job. That's not a job.
Travis McElroy
That's not a job. That's not.
Justin McElroy
I just feel like for a year, money aside, the money doesn't bother me, don't pay me anything, but like, I'm not gonna be able to control the legacy in the way that I need to in 12 months. You know what I mean? There's gonna be executive turnover that I have to be above. Like, I have to be inherited. You know, if the pizza crust guardian isn't part of the furniture, it's not like in the DNA of the place, you're gonna lose track of it. You can't do that in a year. It takes generations.
Travis McElroy
Well, Justin, I assume that that is based off of the projection that if you eat, let's say a pizza a day for a year. Cause it's free, you'll die.
Griffin McElroy
You will pass.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Okay.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, so then we'll need to pass the torch to the next one. It's a blessing and a curse. The Hut Crust connoisseur job.
Justin McElroy
I need you guys to get ready to do a little bit of social media research for me. I need you to check this hashtag Pizza Hut crust. That's it. Just hashtag, Hashtag Pizza Hut Crust Blue
Griffin McElroy
sky do the hashtag.
Justin McElroy
To be considered for the gig, pizza lovers must try Pizza Hut's new hand tossed pizza recipe and post an honest review on Instagram using hashtag Pizza hutcrust. My bad on the gram. Thank you. Pizza Hut crust. Hashtag Pizza HutContest and Hut Crust Connoisseur in the social media post, sharing what they thought of the crust. Applicants then head to Pizza Hut Crust to submit a link to their review as their official application. Griffin, how's it going?
Griffin McElroy
I'm logging in. What's my password?
Justin McElroy
Travis?
Travis McElroy
Yeah, let me see here.
Justin McElroy
You were just logged into our account for the takeover, right?
Clint McElroy
So you're not logged in either?
Travis McElroy
Well, there's fewer than 100 posts, Justin. I know that if someone could just.
Justin McElroy
So the odds are like, pretty good, right? Like, yeah, pretty good. Yeah.
Travis McElroy
There's not a lot.
Justin McElroy
There's not a lot, but there's people
Travis McElroy
having a lot of fun here. Good for them.
Justin McElroy
But I'm just saying if we could get some fewer than 100 posts on the. I'm just saying, if we get somebody on the inside, maybe one of y'.
Griffin McElroy
All. Oh, no, dude.
Travis McElroy
Could be.
Clint McElroy
Sorry.
Justin McElroy
Sorry.
Griffin McElroy
No, dude, no.
Justin McElroy
What's that? No.
Clint McElroy
Why not?
Griffin McElroy
That's just the tummy aches for starters.
Justin McElroy
No, not you.
Clint McElroy
One of them.
Griffin McElroy
Oh, I thought you were talking to me and Travis.
Justin McElroy
That's the problem with. No, no, not them. Travis isn't even looking at me.
Travis McElroy
I don't know. I'm not. No, I'm just going through other people's applications to see how I would stack up.
Justin McElroy
I'm not. You can't have a job. You have a job. We need to get somebody on the inside.
Griffin McElroy
I could get it.
Clint McElroy
Of course.
Justin McElroy
Griffin, you're one of our generation's great stories.
Griffin McElroy
I'm one of our generation's great addictions.
Justin McElroy
I mean, obviously, to bring this. Okay, so the hot crust platform. I can't believe this is as long as it is. The hot crust platform shines a spotlight on Pizza Hut's new and improved hand tossed pizza. The brand's first update to the recipe in over a decade. The refreshed crust delivers a lighter, airier bite with just the right balance of softness and crisp, bringing a modern upgrade to a classic west. I'm gonna order this for lunch right now. I'm fucking starving. To bring Hut crust to life, Pizza Hut is launching a new national campaign set to remake. This is the one where you're gonna be like, holy shit, I can't believe it. They did it. It's a campaign set to a remake of the iconic disco anthem Hot Stuff reimagined as Hut crust.
Griffin McElroy
Okay, I think actually I can imagine it. I think I can imagine it completely start to finish.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, well, you don't have to. The spot opens on an indulgent close up of golden, crispy, hand tossed crust as the meat kicks in. Layering craveable pizza beauty shots with lyrics celebrating the crust fans can't stop singing about. So that's what it's like.
Clint McElroy
If you watch it.
Travis McElroy
You don't have to watch it now. I described it pretty.
Justin McElroy
You don't have to watch it now. Crust is at the heart of a great pizza and fans have been asking for more ways to celebrate it, says Melissa Freeman, chief marketing officer at Pizza Hut. With hot crust, we're not only introducing a new hand tossed recipe that elevates
Clint McElroy
a fan favorite, but we're also offering
Justin McElroy
a $10 large three topping deal that gives people real value every time they order. And for those who live for crusts, the new hot crust connoisseur is a dream come true.
Clint McElroy
A way to get paid for tasting and loving crust every day and then dying promptly afterwards in a fashion you will find desirable.
Justin McElroy
Piggy.
Travis McElroy
Hey, Steve, how you been lately? I don't know, man. You know, my wife left me and I lost my job. But honestly, I still got a lot to live for. Cause of the pizza crust. Yeah, I live for that pizza crust.
Griffin McElroy
Because of my views and the way I express them, I've been banned from every social media platform. But I finally found a platform that will happen.
Justin McElroy
Have me.
Griffin McElroy
And it's the Hut Crust platform. The platform of Hut Crust.
Justin McElroy
Y'. All there. This thing closes on the 25th.
Travis McElroy
Oh, there's still time.
Clint McElroy
The odds. The odds are good. The odds are very good. Please, please become our person on the
Justin McElroy
inside of the Pizza Hut. I mean, it's a pyramid.
Griffin McElroy
It is a pyramid business. I'm glad we can all finally. It all funnels up to the top. No one's making money except for Professor Pizza Hut.
Travis McElroy
Hey, everybody, that's gonna do it for us. Before we let you go, we did actually win. I don't know, it might have seemed like a bit this whole time, but we did actually win. We have a limited release. It's an Omnir to Win shirt. As a follow up to our Omnar to be nominated T shirt. We've got the Helping is Always a free action T shirt over@macroymerch.com and 10% of all merch proceeds this month will be donated to Border Angels. So make sure you go check that out along with everything else we stream
Griffin McElroy
almost every day playing video games. If you go to McRoy Entertainment System on Instagram, you can find out when we are gonna do it. On Tuesdays, we all get together for super McElroy brothers. And then on Fridays, I do Trial by Fieri. Juice is playing Myst on Mondays. Travis is up on Obra Dinn on Wednesdays. Just follow McElroy Entertainment System. You'll find out exactly when we're doing all. And thanks to Mont. Thanks to Montaigne. Also thanks to Montaigne for the USTAR theme song My Life is Better with youh. It's a great track. Travis has a little flail. Travis has the little.
Justin McElroy
I got a little flail mace here
Travis McElroy
that I'm gonna throw.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, you mentioned Conan. I just want to say I am sorry about that because I can't imagine the high he experienced on hosting the Oscars.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
And then the next day, to lose Best Ad Read to us. Like that must have been.
Griffin McElroy
That must have been tough.
Justin McElroy
I would love to talk to if any of you guys know Conan and I can just tell him. I would love to be able to have the. Here's what it is. I would love the opportunity to be able to be classy to everybody in the way that they get to be like, what an honor to be amongst this class of the greats of. You know what I mean? Like, I would like to be able to do that to everybody to their face.
Clint McElroy
Like, I would like to be able
Justin McElroy
to like say to Conan directly like, hey, what an. Like it's. You should have been like Michael B.
Griffin McElroy
Jordan giving me Chalamet the hug. Like, like you give him the sabbatic look next time. Ping pong, ping pong. Got maybe don't talk shit, man.
Justin McElroy
I did want to talk about how rough. Damn.
Griffin McElroy
No, we don't have time, Travis.
Justin McElroy
Damn.
Clint McElroy
Next week, next week, next week we
Travis McElroy
gotta talk about boy Chimney chuck.
Griffin McElroy
That little 3D printed flail. It's gonna make a good sound.
Clint McElroy
Timmy Chimmy next week, baby.
Griffin McElroy
Boom boom, boom, boom boom.
Clint McElroy
Your name's Mud. Nah, you're Timmy.
Griffin McElroy
Jimmy, but so thanks for listening. I'm Griffin for the Mac.
Clint McElroy
I didn't even hear it. Did he hear it? He did.
Griffin McElroy
It was really little.
Clint McElroy
Hit something.
Griffin McElroy
Not your soft chair, man. It didn't make a good sound.
Clint McElroy
Didn't make a. It bounced. Bounce back there, that counts. Mine is Justin McElroy.
Griffin McElroy
I'm Griffin McElroy.
Travis McElroy
They never talk about that in the movie Baseball.
Griffin McElroy
How the ball sometimes bounces back and. No, it's.
Clint McElroy
It's got spikes on it.
Justin McElroy
Travis. Say your name earlier.
Travis McElroy
I'm Travis McRoy. This been my brother.
Justin McElroy
My brother me.
Clint McElroy
Kiss your dad square on the lips.
Travis McElroy
It hurts so bad. I got red marks.
Montagne
Life, it's better. It's better with you. It's better. My life, it's better, it's better with you. Is it true? It's better it's better with you. My life, It's better with you.
Justin McElroy
Maximum fun.
Griffin McElroy
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This installment features the McElroy brothers—Justin, Travis, and Griffin—riding high on their recent win for "Best Podcast Ad Reads" at the iHeartMedia Podcast Awards. The episode oscillates between sincere reflection on their achievement, playful deconstruction of awards culture, signature absurdist goofs (including a "Work of Fart" game), and classic advice-plus-bits content. Listeners get deep McElroy sibling chemistry: playful jabs, looping tangents, and bursts of genuine introspection wrapped in the show’s hallmark self-awareness.
On their awards show experience:
On playground/advice for theater kids:
On everyone’s innate “sense”:
On the need for an audience:
Best CW Bathroom Pun:
On Pizza Hut’s contest:
| Segment | Time | |---------------------------------------|-------------| | Opening Awards Banter | 01:16–04:09 | | Travis at the Awards Show | 04:09–08:16 | | Ad Daddies/Meta-Ad Riffing | 12:48–13:29 | | Playground Advice for Theater Kids | 14:32–21:30 | | Cartographer/Direction Sense Advice | 21:34–28:14 | | Easter Candy Debate | 34:41–40:42 | | Work of Fart: CW Themed | 40:56–45:12 | | Munch Squad: Pizza Hut Crust Guardian | 45:57–55:59 |
The episode is loose, irreverent, and meta. There’s a gleeful self-awareness about their place in podcasting, a playful skepticism about awards, and a recurring theme of “the bit is also the truth” throughout. The episode is a good encapsulation of MBMBaM’s comfort zone: blending genuine advice, surreal roleplaying, competitive goofing, and bantering about the trivial and profound in equal measure.
Episode 806 is quintessential MBMBaM: searching for the punchline in an awards show slight, advocating blowing bubbles over cigarettes, and pontificating about the existential loneliness of being the “Hut Crust Guardian.” If you’re new, the blend of sincerity, grotesquery, and unsnobbish pop culture riffing is exactly what the McElroys intend you to find.