
We're coming at you fresh from Terry Gross's Pledge Academy with some new jokes and some new tricks. We've got more haunted things, more expertise on chicken wings, and opinions about hiring several people with the same name. Suggested talking points: Murder on the Money Path, Wet Elliot, Canadian Chicken Wing Culture, Enderman for My Butt, An Authentic Nut Harmony House: https://harmonyhousewv.com
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Griffin McElroy
The McElroy brothers are not experts and their advice should never be followed. Travis insists he's a sexpert, but if there's a degree on his wall, I haven't seen it. Also, this show isn't for kids, which I mention only so the babies out there will know how cool they are for listening. What's up, you cool baby?
Travis McElroy
1, 2, 3.
Unknown Singer
It's the start of something beautiful A small acquaintance has blossomed it's ripened into a precious friends I could have never seen what was coming for me Hangs at the skate park Hangs by the beach My life, it feels live it's better it's better with you My life, it's better it's better with you this is true it's better it's better with two.
Justin McElroy
It'S better with you hello and welcome to My Brother, My Brother and Me, an advice show for the Modren era. I'm your oldest brother, Justin McElroy.
Travis McElroy
What's up Trav nation? Vroom vroom. It's me, middlest brother and big dog, Travis. Woof woof.
Griffin McElroy
McElroy, shut up and drive. It's me. Built for tough Griffin McElroy.
Travis McElroy
Guys, I figure it's Max fun. Drive. It's the second week. We should start off with something topical. I just watched Wicked. You guys heard about this?
Griffin McElroy
Oh boy.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, we could also.
Griffin McElroy
I stand before a road diverging in the wood and before one path is a bunch of dirty fucking footprinted trash and mud and dog shit and grime. And there's a sign right there. It says this way to talk about Wicked. And then the other way, get this, there's money laying everywhere. And it says this way to do your pledge break for the drive that only lasts one more.
Travis McElroy
Sure, sure, sure.
Griffin McElroy
And I'm looking at that one.
Travis McElroy
Can we incorpor?
Griffin McElroy
I would rather not have shitty money.
Travis McElroy
No, not shitty money. Just wicked good money. Dirty sexy money.
Griffin McElroy
In this case, the road less traveled has the money on it. This is a win win for us.
Travis McElroy
Okay, but that seems like a trap, doesn't it? Like if I went in the woods and there was a path with money laid out leading down it and one path that everyone went down. Yeah, you know what? I'm gonna get murdered on the money lane, I guess.
Griffin McElroy
Let's address this. Do you think your hot new discussion points.
Travis McElroy
No, I was just gonna say I like it.
Griffin McElroy
Please, please.
Justin McElroy
Do you think you're hot?
Griffin McElroy
Your hot new discussion points on this ancient movie is going to support my. Please let me finish. Okay, it's going to support my family and the business that we have nurtured together for a decade and a half.
Travis McElroy
I'll say I enjoyed it. And the songs were fun.
Justin McElroy
Okay, Griffin, as someone told me lately, yeah, everyone deserves the chance to fly. And I think that extends.
Travis McElroy
Wow, that's beautiful.
Justin McElroy
It was in the.
Travis McElroy
What?
Griffin McElroy
That was part of the movie.
Travis McElroy
Oh, I fell asleep.
Justin McElroy
Okay.
Travis McElroy
No. So you like chunks?
Griffin McElroy
Okay, great.
Justin McElroy
This morning. I'm glad you mentioned Wicked, though, Travis, because I wanted to say something.
Travis McElroy
Oh, here we go.
Griffin McElroy
Let me put on my galoshes.
Justin McElroy
It's that today. The first thing I experienced this morning was I opened some social media. I don't keep track anymore. And I watched Cynthia Riva sing Happy Birthday to Guillermo from the Jimmy Kimmel Show. And I wept for it was so beautiful. And I. This isn't a joke. I woke up and I watched her sing, and I think I've never heard this song the way she's singing it to Guillermo.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
And then it was beautiful. It was beautiful. So that's the thing I want to say about Wiccan.
Griffin McElroy
Okay.
Justin McElroy
That's my contribution. Trav.
Travis McElroy
Griffin, anything you'd like to add about Wiccan?
Griffin McElroy
No, I don't think so. And I don't think there's anything else happening for one more week that's going to support our family and the stability of our whole business for a decade and a half. So I think let's get into the questions, guys.
Travis McElroy
Well, Griffin, that's ironic. It's the Max Fun Drive. Yeah.
Justin McElroy
You didn't know.
Griffin McElroy
No, I did know. I did know.
Justin McElroy
I wanted to, now that the show has begun. Yeah, I wanted to talk about the Max Fund Drive because you're supposed to do it at the top.
Griffin McElroy
It's weird we didn't learn this when we went to Terry Gross's pledge school, but she didn't mention anything about edging.
Justin McElroy
Terry Gross's Gross Out Academy.
Griffin McElroy
She didn't teach us about edging for pledge edging or pledging, I guess, which.
Justin McElroy
Is what we're doing here at Gross Out Academy. Because you just talked about edging and Terry Grace.
Griffin McElroy
They know we're going to give them the hard sell on Max Fun Drive and how much great bonus content they can get. Like our Hot Ones audition tape. But we're making them really wait before they can bust on it.
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Our style this time. See how it pans out.
Justin McElroy
If you go to maximumfund.org join, you can see all the details and see all the GIFs and see all the stuff. But the important Thing is, this is the time of year we come to you and say, hey, if you like these shows, we would really like your help in making them possible. It is funded by you. And that's the reason we've been able to do this for over a decade. How many years? 14.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, like 15 in April.
Griffin McElroy
This is our 15th year for so.
Justin McElroy
Long, and thanks to your support. And if you've been listed for a while, you never supported or maybe you lapsed and you're able to come back, it would really mean the world to us if you could do that. So go to maximumfund.org join. We'll talk more about it later.
Travis McElroy
That's a great point. Just before we forget, because I don't think we've mentioned this yet on previous ones. This is a great time of year. You know, sometimes you get, like, renewed credit cards or you lose a credit card in your place or that kind of thing.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, yeah.
Travis McElroy
If you think you're a member but you're not sure, cause of credit card changes over the last year, double check.
Griffin McElroy
And if it helps you sort of push forward on that, imagine, like, me coming to your door and knocking with a little, like, square, you know, card reader in my hand. Like, please, you messed up and broke it, please. If that helps at all, then imagine it.
Travis McElroy
Oh, guys, before we get started on the show, I've just been handing something. Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
Justin McElroy
Farm.
Travis McElroy
Haunted. Farm haunted. It's haunted. It's a farm. Farm haunted. What the heck?
Justin McElroy
What is this amalgam universe nonsense?
Griffin McElroy
What are you doing?
Travis McElroy
This was sent in to us by Braden. I'm going to send you guys the image in slack.
Griffin McElroy
Okay. Hopefully not an entirely visual. Let's see.
Travis McElroy
There will be quite a bit of description in it.
Griffin McElroy
Okay, great. I love that. Thanks, Braid.
Justin McElroy
Thanks, Braid.
Griffin McElroy
Cool. Awesome, Cool. So what we're looking at here, it looks like a custom 1992 horse's ass bar stool.
Travis McElroy
Correct?
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
And so what it is is sort of imagine a horse, truncate it, an abbreviated horse, ending at the front haunches, no neck, no head.
Travis McElroy
Like if this was a centaur, all the human parts been removed.
Justin McElroy
But here's the really important thing is that to make it make sense, they've put the front legs, like, way farther up on the body than you would kind of expect them. So it's like, it's not like there's just not a head. It's like there's not a front half and the legs scooted back to accommodate it's.
Griffin McElroy
Like really upsetting if you're. If there is a procedure called a centaur ectomy, this would be what is left on the operating table floor when the human torso and body and arms and head are liberated from these equine features.
Travis McElroy
Now, this is available for sale on Facebook Marketplace.
Griffin McElroy
How much?
Travis McElroy
I have blocked out the price.
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
So, Justin, if you were to read the description listed here.
Justin McElroy
Whoa, nelly. One of a kind. Nothing like this on earth. This one of a kind western style artist barstool features horse legs, hooves, authentic horsetails and a swivel and seat.
Griffin McElroy
Now can we pause?
Justin McElroy
Yep.
Griffin McElroy
Authentic horsetails.
Travis McElroy
I mean, look at it.
Griffin McElroy
Oh, I certainly hope not, buddy.
Justin McElroy
I think it's authentic horsetails and a swiveling seat. Completely handmade, hand carved and hand finished. Now, I wanted to touch on this. I didn't enjoy. They are saying this to put aside your fears that maybe at some point there was a horse's ass stool factory that was just churning these guys. No, no, no. This is not some off the assembly line horse's ass stool. This is hand, hand carved, handmade, hand finished and signed by the artist. Grab a seat on your horse's tail bar stool and have yourself a drink.
Travis McElroy
What do you want to bet that that artist's signature, the first part of it just says, sorry about this. And that's the signature. Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
This is upsetting. I was in a dark, dark, dark divorce.
Justin McElroy
The other thing that I do want to touch on.
Travis McElroy
Okay. Yes, please.
Griffin McElroy
Is this fucking stool, man. I wouldn't mind rubbing my paws all.
Justin McElroy
Over this shiny lap. It is the fact that you, the reader, have pro. The listener, have at this point probably started to wonder about the Jennies.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
And they have chickened out in a major way in either the photography or the stool. I don't know, but I suspect it's the photography.
Travis McElroy
Okay.
Griffin McElroy
They conspicuously did not show.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. What I'm saying is from the photos provided, it could actually be hanging major horse dong. And that information is not provided to you, which I think is crazy to ask me to make a buying decision if I don't know if there's a big dong on it.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, that's a good point. Juice.
Travis McElroy
How do I set a price?
Griffin McElroy
I'll message the seller real quick. Is there one? Do you ship?
Justin McElroy
Two. You ship. Me and this tool together.
Travis McElroy
You have a 5B O T P. Me and Stuart.
Griffin McElroy
Okay. Is this gonna get me kicked out of my church bridge club if I procure this item? And do you ship?
Travis McElroy
So if you guys had to Put a price on this piece of art.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, Travis, I'm gonna say a number, and I'm seeing a lot of different numbers, but for some reason, $1,200. Wow.
Griffin McElroy
Is it shitty if I say 1201, and then do I win the chair? If I'm close.
Travis McElroy
Real gas, Griffin.
Griffin McElroy
I think it's considerably more than that. I'm going to say. I think that this stool costs $9,000.
Justin McElroy
I think it's over 9,000.
Griffin McElroy
It's a cut. Fucking good stuff. I think that this is a one of a kind piece, and I would be honored to have this in my mind.
Justin McElroy
Or so they say.
Griffin McElroy
$9,000 for what would become an heirloom of my dynasty.
Justin McElroy
This is a gift, Griffin. This is a gap that I don't know how we close as people. Like, our estimation on it is so small.
Griffin McElroy
I'm not saying I want to start.
Travis McElroy
Well, Justin, what I've learned from Antiques Roadshow is art is worth what people will pay for it. Right?
Griffin McElroy
Right.
Travis McElroy
So what we're hearing here is, whatever.
Griffin McElroy
I would pay $300 for this if the shipping was reasonable. It's gonna cost $9,000.
Travis McElroy
Okay, all you're saying was shipping included. Okay. Well, originally, this was listed for 1450.
Griffin McElroy
Oh, shit.
Travis McElroy
But they did mark it down to $1350. Currently, I don't know what it's at now. It might be down to 1200.
Justin McElroy
That's astounding, guys.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. We got a game of chicken on our hands now, because I. If shipping's reasonable, I would grab this bad boy if it gets down low enough. Now, it's a waiting game, but someone's definitely going to snatch it up before we do. Gosh. Do you think there's a wealthy benefactor amongst our listenership who's gonna. One day, one of us will show up at the post box and they'll be so fucking angry at us at post office. Holy shit. They'll be mad.
Justin McElroy
I was hoping, Griffin, a little bit hoping that there'd be, like, a Ding Dong Pan as we were talking. The Prestige Travis has delivered it. Who's. Whose doorbell was it? Find out next time somebody owns this thing.
Griffin McElroy
Hey, should we do a question?
Travis McElroy
Yeah, let's do it. Thank you, Braden. Thank you very much.
Griffin McElroy
Thanks, Brayden.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, thank you. That was good.
Griffin McElroy
We'll put it on Sochi.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, we'll put the image up on Soshi.
Justin McElroy
My name is Elliot. I've been working at the Same company for 11 years, but I've changed departments a few years ago. Since changing Departments. I've climbed up the ladder. Last summer, my old boss hired a new employee for my old job, and his name is Elliot. To be polite, I gave him the nickname Better Elliot so that I could keep Elliot nice. After a few months of calling him Better Elliot, my coworkers told me he's not the Better Elliot. He embellished a bit too much on his resume, and he isn't getting along with his team, and he's taking a bunch of time off from work. The problem I face is, should I keep calling him Better Elliot? And that's from Nick Nameless in Naperville.
Griffin McElroy
Initial gut reaction. It's not going to. It's not going to kill you to call a poor employee Better Elliot. But I do think there's a smooth transition out of it where one day you make him spill a big jug of water right on his pants and you say, more like Wetter Elliot.
Travis McElroy
Oh, that's good.
Griffin McElroy
Make sure lots of other people are around when you say that. And you're gonna have to tell them ahead of time to bust up so that later when people call him Wetter Elliot, they can feel okay about it. It will last a week before he's fired. It sounds like this issue will eventually sort of solve itself.
Travis McElroy
But is there a way to start saying it with an implied do at the beginning? Do Better Elliot.
Griffin McElroy
That's cool.
Justin McElroy
Like, Better Elliot could be the Better Elliot than you are now. Like, comparatively, you are a Better Elliot than previously, which is. Was quite a Bad Elliot. We all agreed.
Travis McElroy
I think with enough prolonged eye contact and seriousness in the delivery of Better Elliot, you can really get across what you're trying to go for there.
Justin McElroy
Next time. Next time. I think your problem was differentiating yourself into discreet people. I think you would have just been better served to do also Elliot. And then you have a little bit of coverage. You both do. Honestly, you shackled him with a lot of pressure.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
You know, he didn't know anything. Day one, you said he's better than you at your job. Oof. That's a lot.
Travis McElroy
Maybe give him an introducing, Right?
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
And Introducing Elliot.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. Or you could call him Smelliot, since he's so bad in his job and he's stealing from you and your boss, and that's time crime. And I get so pissed off and fired up about this stuff. When people aren't doing good enough at their jobs and working hard enough at their jobs and still demand to be called the Better Elliot, it makes me sick.
Justin McElroy
I don't think the pressure should be on you to improve Elliot's work life balance. I think what I would. My response would be, I'm gonna keep being nice to this cat and you guys fire him or something. Cause I can't deal with it.
Travis McElroy
I did everything I could. Better Elliot, right?
Justin McElroy
Elliot's foibles are your problem. I got out of that stinko department.
Travis McElroy
I want to jump back to something Griffin just said. I don't think better. I don't think better Elliot is demanding to be called Better Elliot. I don't think that that's part of the problem, Griffin. I think that would be wild if I showed up, got a new job, and there was another Travis and I said, I know how to smooth this out. Just call me Better Travis.
Griffin McElroy
Well, do you think that if someone called him regular old Elliot, he wouldn't be like, what the fuck is that supposed to mean?
Travis McElroy
What's wrong?
Griffin McElroy
Am I not good enough for you anymore?
Travis McElroy
Suddenly it's making things very clear where the delineation lies. If you just go, elliot.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. Why didn't your boss hire another Elliot?
Travis McElroy
Yeah, that's on them.
Griffin McElroy
You can't keep working there. That is a great disrespect that has been placed literally upon your name.
Travis McElroy
Maybe that job has to always be held by an Elliot.
Justin McElroy
Oh, it's one of those federal laws. They got one of those federal requirements.
Griffin McElroy
Maybe your boss is trying to hold up a mirror to you and your own job performance. As if to say, do you see now the bad Elliot? What a better job the bad Elliot could be doing. I brought bad Elliot here as a lesson to you. Pick up your performance, increase your sales, Boost your sales.
Travis McElroy
Yep.
Justin McElroy
Black screen Severance Season 3. That would be so dope.
Griffin McElroy
People are like, how are they going to do a third season severance? And you say it's just two people named Elliot. They work at the same company. Stakes are way, way lower. They can leave, they can hang out and go to TGI Fridays together. It's not a big deal.
Travis McElroy
Just start calling yourself Best Elliot.
Griffin McElroy
That's cool.
Justin McElroy
Oh, the guiding Elliot.
Travis McElroy
Oh, Omega Elliot.
Justin McElroy
The Elliot standard.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, Elliot Prime.
Justin McElroy
Griffin, you were going to say something.
Griffin McElroy
About Elliot's Love them. Love them all. Can't go wrong. Gould fucking crazy for it. Did you guys know this is our. Yeah, sure, man.
Justin McElroy
T.S.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, baby. Too few L's, but that's because all he gets is W's. And so I'll say this, it is the second week of the Max fund drive.
Justin McElroy
Oh, shit.
Travis McElroy
What?
Griffin McElroy
We could use your help in continuing to make and grow these shows. Because of the support we've gotten from you all, we've been able to make this, first of all, our full time jobs for a long time now. We have been able to hire a team of people who help us make stuff very regularly, even when our lives and parental duties get a little out of pocket. And also we've been able to do a bunch more video stuff in the last year. We started Clubhouse because we were able to hire someone to produce video stuff for us. So when you donate to the Max Fund drive, you can choose the shows that you listen to and support them incredibly directly. And that is the reason we're able to do this.
Travis McElroy
What Griffin is saying, Correct. We've been able to dominate the digital space for the last 15 years. No one's doing it bigger or better than us, and that's because of you. But listen, there's room to grow. Are there podcasts on Mars? We don't know yet. Scientists don't know if there's podcasts on Mars. And without your support, we're not gonna be able to find out. Do they have podcasts in Atlantis? Do turtles know about podcasts?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, probably not.
Travis McElroy
This is the kind of thing.
Justin McElroy
Should we pivot to video? We don't know.
Griffin McElroy
We're not sure about that one, man.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. Do turtles dream? These are all the things that we ask ourselves late at night when we're trying to sleep. And the only way you can help us to get a good night's sleep is by going to maximumfun.org join there's so many different ways to be a member. You can become a new member. You've never, you've never been a member before. New membership time. Awesome.
Griffin McElroy
If you do that, you are going to get so much bonus content, you're going to. Your ears are going to shit right in your headphones.
Justin McElroy
Days.
Travis McElroy
That's true.
Justin McElroy
Days of bonus content.
Griffin McElroy
Days of it.
Justin McElroy
It may be weeks at this point. Honestly. We've done videos on there, we've done audio, we've gotten commentary tracks. I legitimately, I think there's a commentary track for the movie Avatar.
Travis McElroy
Correct.
Justin McElroy
That doesn't sound right.
Travis McElroy
And the TV show.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, my brother.
Travis McElroy
TV show.
Justin McElroy
Six episodes.
Griffin McElroy
Right.
Justin McElroy
Commentary tracks for those.
Griffin McElroy
We auditioned for hot ones this year.
Justin McElroy
Oh, God, please don't let that be.
Griffin McElroy
Without being, you know, no one solicited that. No one asked for that.
Travis McElroy
It's like a cold call, but so spicy.
Griffin McElroy
It would be a huge, huge, huge break for us. So if, you know, any of the hot ones, go, oh my God, massive. Oh, My goodness. Massive. That won't happen for us. So please help us out. MaximumFun.org join at just five bucks a month, you get all the bonus content. And there's other levels, too. You get other great gifts.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, as Griffin said, you can also upgrade. Maybe you've been $5 for a while now. You'd be $10. You've been $10 for a while. You can move up to 20.
Justin McElroy
Trav, if I go from 5 to $10, other than the bonus content, what do I get?
Travis McElroy
Thank you for asking. Justin, you're going to get to choose a pin from a show on Max fun. There's like 30 some pins on there to choose from.
Griffin McElroy
You really took a wild swing at that pie.
Travis McElroy
I know, right? It feels right.
Griffin McElroy
You have no idea.
Travis McElroy
They're all gorgeous. I'm a big fan of the My Brother, My Brother and Me Trav Nation pin for obvious reasons.
Griffin McElroy
Yes.
Travis McElroy
But there's a lot of really great ones on there. And you'll have the warmth in your heart of knowing you were able to up your membership and support us a little bit more.
Griffin McElroy
You can also boost your membership by like a buck or two if you want to. You can pay for a whole year up front. If you don't want a recurring charge, you can gift a membership to a dear loved one to make sure that they get the bonus content.
Travis McElroy
Or a bitter enemy if you hate our shit.
Griffin McElroy
Or a bitter enemy if you hate our shit. Well, no, don't do that, because we would still benefit from that.
Travis McElroy
If you want to know what that's what I'm saying is like the best way. An enemy of my enemy. And the best way to punish my enemy is to make him listen to the McElroy brothers for free.
Griffin McElroy
Please support us. Please help support us and the Max Fund Network. It's a wonderful community. We are honored to be staying strong with Max Fund for. I think this is our 14th max fund drive.
Travis McElroy
Correct.
Griffin McElroy
Which is just wild. It's a wonderful organization. We own all of our shit because we are not part of some massive network that would want to control that. MaxFund is a co op owned by its workers. It is a rad, rad thing to be a part of. And this is the last week of the drive. Last time we're gonna ask you for your help. Maxmofund.org join I think if you look.
Justin McElroy
Around, you can see what a major bummer it could be when stuff you love is owned by corporations. And your donations help to keep us away from that. And it's also a way of voting for this being the kind of way you like to see media run. That's right. And we really appreciate that. And the fact that you've made this a sustainable model for us for so long means, like so much. And thank you, thank you, thank you.
Travis McElroy
Now let's get back to the important work we do, please.
Justin McElroy
I'm on my way home from work and there's been an accident. And the one and only highway I can take. On the one and only highway I can take. They estimate it will be several hours until it's reopened. Traffic is moving, but it's a very, very slow crawl. I grab some chicken wings on my way. They're sitting next to me in the passenger seat. Thai chili flavor. I'm hungry, but I won't reach my destination for over an hour. Can I eat these sauced up beauties while in the driver's seat? Am I good? I'm alone in my vehicle but surrounded by other drivers in bumper to bumper traffic. And this is from commuter in Canada. So I should start by saying I don't know Canadian law.
Travis McElroy
Oh, good point.
Justin McElroy
So this is not in any way. I don't know. I don't know the law. I don't want the Mounties.
Griffin McElroy
Yes.
Justin McElroy
You don't need the rcmp.
Travis McElroy
I don't need the siete. I've been reading some Canadian detective novels.
Griffin McElroy
Don't worry about it. I also don't know what Canadian chicken wing culture is like here. It is in America and this is one part of our, you know, the culture that I do think we have a bit of a leg up on for a lot of the world is that we not only it's okay to get sloppy, we like it when we get really weird.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. Sloppier the better.
Griffin McElroy
In a car, in the office, at a kid's birthday party. It's like great to get sloppy. And we like it and people like it when you do it. So if you were here in the States, I'd say, yeah, 100% yummy. Down.
Justin McElroy
Another thing about chicken wing culture in the States is that I meant to tell you guys, the BW3 is at the mall. Closed.
Travis McElroy
No.
Justin McElroy
Our chicken wing culture is taking a lot of hard hits lately. They closed. Black Sheep closed. It's been tough for chicken wings lately.
Griffin McElroy
Knowing that the BW Threes can't keep one open at the Huntington Mall makes me want to short the whole B dubs market. It seems like the big crash is a coming.
Justin McElroy
Seems like so poorly run though. As a franchise, it Was like, I talk shit, man.
Griffin McElroy
It's gone now. Talk shit.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, dude. Go off King.
Justin McElroy
They can't deny they only had pretzel rods anymore because they're closed. Nobody gets them there.
Griffin McElroy
They only had three flavors. One of them was salt. I don't think that this place was.
Justin McElroy
They had salt and vinegar. They had salt and vinegar? Yeah. You had to get one of the other.
Travis McElroy
They just hadn't make it.
Griffin McElroy
On the front of the building, they spray painted buffalo wings and wieners. And they sold hot dogs, too, with the sauce on it.
Travis McElroy
That's weird.
Griffin McElroy
Three types of sauce and the salt. So I don't think that this was a legitimate business.
Justin McElroy
They let dogs.
Griffin McElroy
They let dogs come inside, and they would go fucking ape shit every time. I really don't think that they could. They said they were a veterinary office as well. I don't think that this was a real one.
Justin McElroy
It wasn't. It wasn't. And I never saw. Oh, sorry. I meant to tell you guys. The veterinary office is still functioning. You still crazy.
Travis McElroy
That's my favorite one to use when I'm in town. So that's to go back to the question. Can we agree that there's an important detail left out here that changes the game entirely? Which is bone in or boneless?
Justin McElroy
Well, they say wings, so they're not boneless.
Griffin McElroy
Well, boneless wings.
Justin McElroy
Well, no, those are nuggets.
Travis McElroy
I understand what you're saying, Justin, but I'm not.
Griffin McElroy
Don't other Travis right now. Like, we're all on the same page on this. It is a harsh reality of the world that we live in that there is boneless wings.
Travis McElroy
And I'm saying if you have a box of boneless wings and you can pop them in and move forward, no problem. If these were.
Griffin McElroy
If they were boneless, this person would not have fucked up.
Travis McElroy
That's what I have to assume.
Justin McElroy
No way I'm gonna go to Boston Pizza. Cause that is the only.
Travis McElroy
Can you pick me up something while you're there?
Justin McElroy
No, that's the only chain I know. The only Canadian chain that might sell wings. So I just want to know if boneless. Cause if I'm hoping I might be able to pick something up from the question asked being from Canada. Right. Famous wings wings combo. So they. They have wings on the menu, and they do not specify. Okay, bone in. Right.
Travis McElroy
And it is bone in if you don't specify, it's bone in. Okay.
Justin McElroy
Okay. So they. This would not occur to them. I think.
Travis McElroy
Okay, here's.
Justin McElroy
Here's my bones are in There. Now we don't know. They do not have a breakup on drums or flats. And that, for me, is a question.
Griffin McElroy
Cause you can. You can. Of a stick.
Travis McElroy
You can. A stick flat. You're working on that.
Griffin McElroy
Flat is rough.
Justin McElroy
I gotta get my fingers in there with flat to get all the.
Griffin McElroy
Hold the phone.
Travis McElroy
You're doing, like, a chiropractic adjustment.
Justin McElroy
So I gotta get my fingers in there for flat. Guys, I got to.
Griffin McElroy
What's your. There's no way for me. This is a shame. There's no way for shame. It's great shame. There is no way I can ask you to pantomime how you're popping out flat with that. No, no, no, no, no. You're close. You're close.
Travis McElroy
You don't have to do it. No, no, no, don't do it. This is a family show.
Griffin McElroy
You don't have to.
Travis McElroy
No, no, no, no.
Griffin McElroy
You don't have to do it.
Travis McElroy
No, please, for the love of God.
Griffin McElroy
I'm operating on. No, no, no, no. Listen. I'm operating on so little sleep right now. And if you do that, I'm gonna bust up. And then the video will be me busting up at you doing like a crude Jack Griffin.
Justin McElroy
As a professional courtesy to you, show me the question. I'm not gonna do the funnier thing on this podcast now. I am, as a professional courtesy, gonna move on.
Griffin McElroy
But I can agree.
Travis McElroy
We can just say Georgia O'Keefe would approve of the way that Justin activates his layer.
Justin McElroy
And you can't say that, Travis, this is not our place for the.
Griffin McElroy
And for just your mental picture. Like, as long as we're kind of giving people something to think about later.
Travis McElroy
Something to talk about.
Griffin McElroy
Just. I'm imagining that you are using the finger that the TV fell on and squished. And so it's your little flat finger and you're like. It's flatter. It helps get in the crevices and creases. But as you put your own little fucking frosting. Spreader cake spatula.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Travis, what's your style with a flat wing, brother?
Travis McElroy
I break it apart, babe.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, I break it apart, too. Cause there's no other great option visually.
Travis McElroy
I know that I am perceived visually by other human beings, and so I'm. Yeah, I know. The problem is you get sauce on your fingers and then you gotta quick turn the wheel or whatever.
Justin McElroy
I can't tell you guys. The truth is. The truth is, it feels mean to break. Just seems mean.
Travis McElroy
J. Ma'am.
Justin McElroy
It makes me feel like a big bear.
Travis McElroy
Like some sort of big mean bear. So you're being polite, you're being dignified, man.
Justin McElroy
I'm being tasteful, right?
Travis McElroy
Yeah, you're showing some respect to a fallen opponent.
Justin McElroy
I have a place in the great web. You know what I mean? Just like Arachne said in Spider man, turn off the dark. We all have a place in the great web.
Travis McElroy
And I'm trying to place the line of towering. You don't want that chicken looking down from Valhalla seeing you just absolutely defiling its bones, right?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, yeah. It's like when the lawyer gets chomped in half in Jurassic Park. He's probably like, his ghost is like unnecessarily like, you didn't need to do. You didn't need to do that.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, man.
Griffin McElroy
You don't need this chicken's judgment on you.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
If it's wings, you can one hand those you can't one hand a flat. So is that an option? Can we compromise here and say just. You can eat the. The sticks but not the flats, but not flat. Yeah, I want you to keep a hand on the wheel. We have a lot of fun here. And we do. Yeah. I do need you to have one hand on the wheel here. One non slippery hand on the wheel.
Justin McElroy
Cause that bad boy hand wet hand.
Griffin McElroy
Dry hand wet hand dry hand. Right? Your wet hands for your wings, your dry hands for your driving.
Travis McElroy
100%.
Griffin McElroy
Otherwise your 10 might slip down to a 7. All of a sudden you're in the fucking guardrail.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
And that's a tragedy. And they're gonna put in your obituary. This dipshit died trying to eat slippery sloppery. Buffalo winks while driving 96 miles an hour down the Canadian highway.
Travis McElroy
Well, they are in bumper to bumper traffic.
Griffin McElroy
The point stands. The point remains.
Justin McElroy
Okay, that's so interesting because I did not. That was not my sense.
Travis McElroy
And keep an eye out. Keep an eye out for a scenic overlook that maybe you could pull off on and like really admire Canada's beauty and splendor while you chow down on some Thai chili wings.
Griffin McElroy
It fucking rips ass that not eating the wings has not even been no can. We have addressed it. You can't let them get. I mean, they'll still be good cold.
Travis McElroy
But also the powerful scent, the aroma lifting you up and carrying you over to your passenger seat is too powerful for that. They're only human after all.
Justin McElroy
But what about. What about if they're super spicy? You know, like, you don't think they're gonna be that spicy. But what if you.
Travis McElroy
And you turn into a car inside.
Griffin McElroy
A car, explodes the outer car.
Justin McElroy
You destroy your car because you turned into a car inside your car.
Griffin McElroy
If you eat spicy food, your eyes.
Justin McElroy
Go all wet and you're like, ah, I can't see.
Travis McElroy
And don't wipe your eyes, for the love of God. If you do, do it with your dry hand.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, it's a good point, Juice.
Justin McElroy
Just dangerous. I'm just saying.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. Why'd you get the. Why did you get such wet food? Should have thought about that. That you had to drive ahead of you.
Travis McElroy
That's why you gotta get the dry rub for the drive home.
Justin McElroy
Dry rub for the drive home.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. And then you can enjoy the slobby boys in the comfort and seclusion of your own home, where you will not be perceived by other human beings, at which point, go wild, man.
Griffin McElroy
You could pick up the world's chillest hitchhiker and be like, hey, where you heading? Tucson. Great. I don't trust you to operate this car. It is mine. Can you hold these buffalo wings up to my mouth, turn them like a corn cob, and snap my bones when I need you to? I know this seems like something a killer would have you, that a killer would ask you to do. That's not me. That's not my journey.
Travis McElroy
And you're not a killer either, right? I do think I said snap my bones, and I need to see how you feel about that.
Griffin McElroy
Mm.
Justin McElroy
Do you guys try to eat? Guys ever driven and eaten? Just tell me.
Travis McElroy
It's a podcast, Maybe a rap from time to time.
Griffin McElroy
Have I ever driven a car while eating a food?
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Have I ever done these two activities that I do?
Justin McElroy
Have you ever driven a car while eating a burger?
Griffin McElroy
These two activities I do every single day. Have they ever. Have their paths ever crossed?
Justin McElroy
I guess what I was asking is if you're going through a drive through your wife's passenger seat and you get something super sloppy, like a super sloppy.
Travis McElroy
I don't get something super sloppy.
Griffin McElroy
I don't get something if I'm dropping driving.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, but what if. So, like, if you do get something super sloppy, do you want her to wrap the sandwich in the wrapper to protect the components?
Travis McElroy
Yes.
Justin McElroy
Do you want the wrapper to be gone? Do you want to be working without a wrapper? No.
Travis McElroy
I work with Annette, and I will occasionally hand it back to my wife to ask her to peel it down a little bit like I'm a child.
Griffin McElroy
That's awesome, man.
Travis McElroy
So I can keep a steady hand on the wheel.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, but Listen, here's my problem, man. I can't negotiate with a wrapper and drive a car.
Travis McElroy
You know what I mean?
Justin McElroy
I gotta go free.
Travis McElroy
I have to assume that the wrapper isn't toxic or they wouldn't put it on my food. So if I get a little nibble in there with the bite. If I get a little nibble in the bite with the fiber.
Griffin McElroy
I remember how stoked I was when Burger King started doing chicken fries. Cause I was like, those are so. I could do those. No hand. I could reach down like a big bird and just pop one up, flip it in my mouth, one shot.
Justin McElroy
Get a dispenser like Garth had in the merch for red licorice.
Travis McElroy
You just reach up and I don't.
Griffin McElroy
Even have to chew it. And maybe accidentally close my eyes too much to see the vehicle stop in front of me on the highway. Uh oh. My life is saved because of Burger King's chicken fries.
Travis McElroy
Jesus.
Justin McElroy
What the heck?
Griffin McElroy
You really pledged me there.
Justin McElroy
What do you mean? Were you about to do another pledge break?
Travis McElroy
No. He said about pledging.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. Cause you took a big breath and then you didn't do the boop, ba, boop sound for such a long time. It was crass and crude, but it.
Travis McElroy
Got him rock hard.
Justin McElroy
Haunted doll watch. I just wanted to mention I like to check in on this space from time to time because I kind of created it. And then it got so crowded that I had to move out of it just to be real with you guys because.
Griffin McElroy
Is that you throwing shade at Travis for doing a haunted farm watch earlier this very episode? No shade at everybody else doing haunted doll stuff.
Justin McElroy
Got wanted to get into haunted doll stuff where we were already there, so I had to leave. It got a little crowded at that corner of the beach, funny beach, as I call it. But I did my.
Griffin McElroy
I mean, you're lucky. My funny beaches keep closing. My funny beaches keep eroding from the face of the earth.
Justin McElroy
This fucking.
Travis McElroy
I've had a lot of jellyfish. Dead jellyfish watch up on my funny beach, which is upside down.
Justin McElroy
I just wanted to show you guys real quick. This is a haunted doll vessel. Teeny the Tiny Witch.
Griffin McElroy
I like Teeny the Tiny. Why would you. How dare you show me an auction for one of these that is closed already. How dare you show me this.
Justin McElroy
I didn't know this is a space we're getting into. Meet Teeny, the tiniest member of the gnome group, embarking on a mystical journey of witchcraft as a novice. Teeny is still in training, but her Innate abilities often propel her beyond her level.
Griffin McElroy
Wait, wish list now on Steam. You gotta get Teeny the tiny, tiny witch doll.
Travis McElroy
So you're offering to sell me a newbie unpredictable witch?
Justin McElroy
Yeah, no, it says hailing from an unknown realm, which I like. If we knew where Teeny witches came from, I would hope that we would.
Griffin McElroy
Be living there only.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, we'd be spreading that information around.
Travis McElroy
What I love about this posting, Justin, is so far there's been nothing to seem to indicate that it is a spirit possessing a statue, but rather the statue itself is a gnome from a different dimension.
Griffin McElroy
That's an evolution of the form.
Justin McElroy
I like that she has these superpowers.
Travis McElroy
Okay, please.
Justin McElroy
Teeny connects with others on a profound level, offering compassionate guidance and support. She has natural.
Travis McElroy
I don't have that.
Justin McElroy
She mends emotional, spiritual and physical wounds with her innate healing powers. Intuitive insights. She receives guidance from the spiritual realm. Four, she has protective instincts. Five, nature affinity. Six.
Travis McElroy
Wait, does that just mean she likes nature?
Griffin McElroy
No, it means if you use a fire affinity witch against her, she takes 20 extra damage.
Justin McElroy
Oh, yeah.
Travis McElroy
Sick. Okay.
Justin McElroy
Recognizing the connectedness of all living things in the cycles of nature. That's what nature affinity is. Which, like, I think you could do that without it being a superpower, but whatever.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, it all sounds like something someone would say to you and you'd roll your eyes really hard if they were like, unlike other people, I recognize the connection of things. And you're like, cool, thanks, Teeny. Yeah, I got it.
Justin McElroy
Together Teeny and her partner will weave a tapestry of love, magic and wonder, deepening their connection with each other and the world around them. She has also expressed if her caretaker isn't a witch, it's okay that's willing to guide and learn together.
Griffin McElroy
How are they gonna slip in there that there's a Bodo and they're not gonna tell us about the bonus doll?
Travis McElroy
Okay, so I was struck by that too. Gravin, I think that they are saying that if you buy this doll, you are now Teeny's partner.
Griffin McElroy
Oh, I got so fucking excited. I thought that they were saying there's a secret, like, slime bag bonus card.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, like extra one. I wanted to give you guys all the angles. They really captured a lot of angles.
Griffin McElroy
Jesus Christ. I mean, I can model this thing in fucking blender now. I don't need.
Travis McElroy
Look how tiny Teeny is.
Justin McElroy
It's really tiny.
Griffin McElroy
Teeny's. Really? Really?
Travis McElroy
They put a penny on there or.
Griffin McElroy
No, it's not a penny. It's an ancient. It might Be a debris.
Travis McElroy
Why is Teeny whistling?
Justin McElroy
That's she's screaming. She just is too little to know.
Travis McElroy
How cool. Yeah, that's a horrifying thought you just said, Justin.
Justin McElroy
I know. Yeah, but she's so. For $34.88 now, it does say on here. Please understand I've had to increase my shipping fee to include better packaging. Plus, the cost of shipping has gone up for fragile items. 12 to $14 is the average. Because I double box, the delivery services aren't gentle. I will work with you on multiple items and give a shipping discount. How magical are these things that they can't at least guarantee safe shipping from A to B, Right?
Travis McElroy
I have purchased things online before and they've come damaged in shipping. And if you couple that with the knowledge that not only is the item I bought damaged from shipping, but my new witch partner is dead, I think I would be pretty. Pretty shadracked by that information.
Griffin McElroy
Also, Justin, shipping haunted dolls has gotten much harder because of all the scarif.
Travis McElroy
Oh, Griffin, Your Griffin, your political humor has really evolved.
Justin McElroy
That's really good, Griffin.
Griffin McElroy
Fuck, man, I'm so proud of you.
Justin McElroy
I teach 8th grade science in Washington. It's been cold, and I really got into wearing cozy sweaters during the school year. Yeah, I had a rotation of five or six sweaters that I just went through during our cold, dark months. It became so much of a thing that students started calling me Sweater Boy. With the weather improving, how do I make the switch back to wearing my other clothes without letting the eighth graders feel like they've won and bullied me out wearing the sweaters I love so much? And that is from. I mean, it says here, Sweater Boy. That's not me editorializing.
Travis McElroy
This is. This is. I want to say this shows the power of, like, preteens and teens in mocking. Where my first thought was, like, sweater Boy is not that creative. And then I started saying it to myself like someone was saying it to me. And by the nature of it being so simple and not creative, it does imply a. Like, this doesn't even deserve a fun play on words or whatever. You're just Sweater Boy now.
Griffin McElroy
To be reduced down to such a primordial kind of component is like, they see me for nothing else other than my long hair.
Travis McElroy
Not even Sweater man or Professor Sweater or something.
Griffin McElroy
Professor Sweater hits the head.
Travis McElroy
You gotta get.
Justin McElroy
No, but if you're gonna Level A, if you're gonna make a nickname stick with a teacher, it's gotta be that sort of banal that, like, there's Nothing in the name necessarily where they're letting you know that they don't like it.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
So, like, if you try to take them, the principal, they're gonna be like, I mean, sweater. He wears sweaters.
Travis McElroy
What do you mean? They call you sweater boy, but you're not there when they say it.
Justin McElroy
Right.
Travis McElroy
You don't know the tone.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, they sweater to my face.
Travis McElroy
Well, yeah, but why did they call me fuckwad? Come on, man. Sweater boy's not that bad.
Justin McElroy
That's not my name.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Stacy.
Travis McElroy
My name is Phu Quad. It's French. Yeah.
Justin McElroy
I think that where you sort of. The first time someone said sweater boy, you should have taken it off, because if people notice what you're wearing, you've gone wrong. That's my passion.
Travis McElroy
That's power. Can you imagine, Justin, if the first time someone saw you wearing a sweater, they said sweater boy and instantly took it off? That person.
Justin McElroy
That's pretty darn. Pretty darn close to how I would probably react. Travis, Honestly, I think that if you.
Travis McElroy
Did that to me, like, if I said sweater boy and you took it off, I would feel a crushing weight of responsibility of the power I had over other human being. Not just in that moment, but maybe make me second guess every interaction I would ever have again with someone ever. That I might comment on. Nice shoes. And then they take off their shoes. Right. Or something along those lines. That's too much power you're giving.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
What's hard is the next day, once word gets round, like, hey, it's starting to become a thing. And, like, I want to tell you, the other students. This isn't me, sir, but the other students are really starting to notice the sweater a lot. I feel like one of the students should have given you an out earlier on, like, just to let you know that it was building. Because the fact that you let the sort of the rep build to this point where it's, like, canonical, because that.
Travis McElroy
Didn'T happen on the first time you wore a sweater.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Maybe you could switch the sweater vests. Right. Make a slow transition out of it.
Justin McElroy
Ooh, ooh.
Travis McElroy
Put a little, like, loose nail hammered into your desk. Catch the edge of your sweater on it. Continue moving around the room for the day. Let the sweater slowly unravel.
Griffin McElroy
Be wearing something under important, like a.
Travis McElroy
Funny shirt that says, like, the sweater is dead. Yeah, like, sweater boy's dead. I'm T shirt, ma'am.
Justin McElroy
Now, as someone who was in a very similar situation to this and has been in a similar situation to this, the better play for the students would have been to start subtly hinting that they can smell your sweater because you really. It's such a gigantic pain in the ass to wash a sweater. Right? I've got sweaters upstairs where it said lay flat. I don't have anywhere in my house to lay a sweater flat.
Travis McElroy
You don't have a flat surface in your home?
Justin McElroy
I had to clean off the dining room table. Yeah, man. Somewhere where cats wouldn't pee. I don't know.
Travis McElroy
Fair. Fair.
Griffin McElroy
That doesn't exist in that house.
Justin McElroy
I know.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Hey, careful, pal. That's my prison you're talking about.
Travis McElroy
Pissing.
Justin McElroy
That's my pissing. No, but it is such a pain. So you wear them and you're like, I don't. I. You know, it's always a shirt underneath. Like I always have like a T shirt or something underneath. And then I think, I don't need to wash the sweater right now. So if the students started like, oof, you guys smells a little bit like sweater. Do you guys smell like a musty sweatery?
Griffin McElroy
Smell like a sweatery. Yeah, that could work. I was trying to think of ways to retaliate. A teacher could retaliate against a student that would be still funny and not upsetting. And I think that what I've landed on is if people call you sweater boy in a way that you're uncomfortable with, you kind of sigh and you walk to the door of the classroom and open it up and you wheel in the AV cart and you say, well, we were gonna watch Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs too, but I guess that that movie is actually only for good behaved kids. And you push it right out of the room and you say, sorry, maybe tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. If you can keep your cruel barbs to yourself, then we'll finally get to finish Clyde with a chance of meatballs too. I heard he dies at the end of it.
Travis McElroy
Could you find like 30, however many kids are in your class, smaller, exact like child sized duplicates of your sweater. And you bring them in one day and you hand them out to everybody. And now they're also sweater boys. And you're in sweater. And then you're gonna get some kind of like, photo posted on an inspirational Instagram of like, teacher figured out his kids were so jealous of his sweater that he got sweaters for all of them and taught them to be little gentlemen or whatever. Those will always get on there.
Griffin McElroy
I always forget if teacher is one of those jobs that has enough expendable income to buy 30 sweaters for a.
Travis McElroy
Goof or child size sweaters. Griffin. They don't cost as much as human size sweaters.
Griffin McElroy
Whoa. Yeah. Yikes, man.
Travis McElroy
4 ID and slip and apparently break that down.
Griffin McElroy
Yikes.
Travis McElroy
Kids aren't fully formed humans.
Griffin McElroy
I think kids are humans.
Travis McElroy
Science is out, man. Do turtles dream?
Griffin McElroy
I don't. You're really stuck on that, man.
Travis McElroy
I can't stop thinking about it a lot. I can't stop thinking about it. What did turtles dream about?
Justin McElroy
I bet they dream about bringing in big returns this year for the Max Fun Drive.
Travis McElroy
No. You don't think turtles dream about that? I wanna this. You know, we're not quite at the end of the episode, but we're headed that way. And this is the second. My brother. My brother and me. So I wanted to take a chance before we wrapped up to tell everybody how much your support over the years and on this Max Fund drive means to us. We take this pretty seriously and it means a lot to us. Seeing people show up for the live streams that we do, seeing people comment on like Instagram posts that they upgraded or became a new member or boosted or whatever they were able to do. It's a very good reminder that the stuff that we do matters to people. And it reminds us of that there's people out there that enjoy the thing that we bring some joy to. And it's one of my favorite times of the year to be able to make all this extra stuff, not just the bonus content, but all the live streams and posts and everything like that to kind of deepen that connection.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. It's also a good time. I always feel really grateful this time of year and I wanted to express that as well. Because in like all the asking for stuff, I also want to recognize how many people have done this for many years. And I really appreciate it if you have maybe started listening to some new shows or maybe listening a little bit more. Your financial situation, Chase, whatever.
Griffin McElroy
Maybe.
Justin McElroy
What if you could do what about $20 a month? In addition to the pin and the bonus content, we've also got a pretty freaking incredible towel. A Beach for the Stars towel, illustrated by Paul G. Hammond. It's gorgeous. It's fantast. And. Or there's a bucket hat if you don't want the towel. But I think you probably would want the towel.
Travis McElroy
You always need a towel.
Justin McElroy
Probably want the towel. That's the route that I would go. But the important thing is not the gifts, it's that you're saying, hey, I like when. I like when my media cares about people. I like when the Stuff I make is beholden to the people who listen to it and not to. To big money corporate interests or the government.
Travis McElroy
Are there a lot of government podcasts?
Justin McElroy
A lot of government podcasts?
Travis McElroy
Oh, man.
Griffin McElroy
Huge genre these days. It is.
Travis McElroy
I mean, I mean, the thing is, is the way they.
Justin McElroy
I do mine for the West Virginia Department of Transportation. Dude, it's so boring.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, okay, cool, man.
Justin McElroy
But I make $10,000 an episode every hook.
Griffin McElroy
Don't say that now. Don't say that during the show.
Travis McElroy
Not now.
Justin McElroy
Listen, we all get a lot of federal government. Don't worry about it, guys.
Griffin McElroy
We all get a lot of money from the left dot. But let's keep that shit under wraps until maybe next week.
Travis McElroy
We just. In all seriousness, the way that Max Fund the funding works and the way that like, not just the ownership of the shows and the ownership of the network is completely unique to podcast networks from what I've found and talked to other people about. And this thing of like, it being a pretty tight closed loop of like listeners and hosts and creators and the workers who x fun feels very unique and special and our ability to just make stuff that we like for the people that like, it is so unique. And it wouldn't be possible without support.
Griffin McElroy
From you guys, genuinely would not be possible. If this is the only show you listen to, you may not be aware of this, but if you listen to other McElroy shows, you probably know that the podcast ad market is in pretty much the worst spot. I've seen it in my long illustrious podcasting career where we don't run a lot of ads on other shows that aren't my brother, my brother and me. But fortunately, because of the support we get from you all, we are able to stay solvent and keep paying people to help us out and keep making more stuff. And we're not asking you to just do this for free. The bonus content, if you've never heard it, is wild. You gotta hear Pranky Doodle Dandy. You gotta hear Plato's Rave.
Justin McElroy
You gotta hear all that.
Griffin McElroy
You gotta hear more of Plato's Rave.
Travis McElroy
I want my sister in law and me.
Griffin McElroy
You gotta hear that. If you listen to Taz. The Charlieverse trilogy of DD Sessions scripted by Justin's oldest daughter are all just. It's all unstoppable content. And so you get a lot of great stuff. And you know that you support the shows that you like for, you know, starting at just five bucks a month.
Justin McElroy
If you're already a supporter, by the way, and you haven't checked out your bonus content and you've forgotten how. Maybe you can go to maximumfun.org how.
Griffin McElroy
To boco we are gonna be streaming every day for the rest of this week. We streamed every day last week too. We have some stretch goals that we've released. If you're a member of the Max Fun Network, you can watch our Hot Ones video. The full video is now up in the BOCO feed. If we can get up to 8,000 new upgrading boosting members, we're going to release an old video of Travis playing Conrad Birdie from Bye Bye Birdie on an upcoming clubhouse, hopefully alongside one of Justin.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, we've already hit Sullivan.
Griffin McElroy
We already hit that one.
Justin McElroy
I've invested in a pretty pricey disc resurfacing machine to keep the flow spikes. The embarrassment spice pipeline coming.
Griffin McElroy
We're leaving it all out on the court for the rest of this week and then we're going to go back to the usual amount of effort that you.
Justin McElroy
That we can sustain and that you.
Griffin McElroy
Can sustainable as content creators. But yeah, this is our last episode of mbmbam where we're going to ask you to help us out. So maximumfun.org join if you're thinking about it, do it now before you forget and help us keep the goof train on the track because otherwise it'll crash.
Justin McElroy
Sorry.
Travis McElroy
Yes.
Justin McElroy
I want a Munch Squad. Griffin. I'm sorry, I can't sing the song. Talk to me about your reaction to the Munch Squad theme song. As you. As you just sort of like. It was more like a. Oh, like a. Like.
Griffin McElroy
Oh, was it like a. Oh my gosh.
Justin McElroy
I'm staying on your shirt.
Griffin McElroy
You had no notice you were making.
Travis McElroy
Quite a face, Justin. Maybe in the ramping up up to.
Griffin McElroy
It it was again you. That's a part of it.
Travis McElroy
As I tries for us.
Griffin McElroy
We have to see you, Justin. We have to see you. And sometimes we'll react to things that only we can see. You don't have to hang a big lantern on.
Justin McElroy
As I've. As I've told my.
Griffin McElroy
You look like you were having a heart attack and we're dying on the show.
Justin McElroy
Too much of my precious little energy lately trying to mask my emotional state at any given moment. So don't. So as I told Sydney, my face isn't part of it right now.
Travis McElroy
Okay, cool.
Justin McElroy
My face isn't part of it. I can't do that right now. Okay, Right. Listen, Dan.
Travis McElroy
Lana. Lana. Lana. Lan.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. Thank you, guys. They fucking did it. Yes, guys, McDonald's did it and we've been waiting for them to do it, but they did it.
Travis McElroy
They did it.
Justin McElroy
I don't have meals, man.
Griffin McElroy
Wait a second. Wait a second. Adult, I thought what you were showing us is that they got these awesome Minecraft meals. I was like, great. I didn't put together that they were doing these damn things for grown folks as well.
Justin McElroy
That is so Right. So there is the normal kids Happy Meal, which we all love and revere, but now we've got a Minecraft movie meal.
Travis McElroy
Wait, you've just blown my mind, Justin. I didn't know till right this second that the article associated with Minecraft movie will was a Minecraft movie.
Griffin McElroy
Oh, baby.
Travis McElroy
You know, this is news to me.
Justin McElroy
So, Trav, this is actually. Let's talk about that for a second. I think they're calling it a Minecraft movie to emphasize the sort of open source collaborative nature of Minecraft.
Griffin McElroy
Yes, for sure.
Justin McElroy
So maybe we should have a Minecraft movie as well.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
A different Minecraft movie to kind of honor that open source collaborative nature of Minecraft.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Griffin McElroy
And maybe also my theory is that it was called the Minecraft movie until a single focus group got plopped down in front of that trailer and they were like, maybe we shouldn't put all our eggs in this one particularly hugely upsetting looking basket.
Justin McElroy
Yes. So we could have. Maybe the last the Ghostbusters movie could have been a Ghostbusters reboot, and then after that is a Ghostbusters reboot. It's just one of them.
Griffin McElroy
The same one. Yeah.
Justin McElroy
So let me tell you about this meal because we do have the kids option that has a Minecraft toy. From crafting pixel perfect replicas of our golden arches and world famous menu items to stacking block upon block into full on restaurants, fans have been building their love for McDonald's into Minecraft for years.
Griffin McElroy
Yes.
Justin McElroy
Now, inspired by their imagination and the global big screen adventure, A Minecraft movie debuting in theaters on April 4th, we're bringing the game's cinematic world to McDonald's. Introducing a Minecraft movie Mia and a Minecraft movie Happy Meal dropping together for the first time ever at McDonald's nationwide starting April 1st. Don't worry.
Griffin McElroy
I'm worried, man. It's not a joke. Hey, you tell me. Grown up Happy Meals launching April 1. My head's a little too on swivel to get fooled again by the Don's Corporation.
Travis McElroy
I might be asking you to jump ahead a little bit. And in fact I am, because is this is actually a grown up Happy Meal or is this just a Combo meal, which they've done before. Is there a toy?
Justin McElroy
Oh, well, Travis, allow me to answer that with a affirmative.
Travis McElroy
Yes.
Justin McElroy
First off, I will have to say, Travis, Chicken McNuggets meal. If you get the. There's a 10 piece McNuggets meal or a Big Mac. You can go either way. If you get the nuggets, you can spice that up with Nether Flame sauce, a limited edition hot sauce inspired by the Nether with crushed red pepper and flaming cayenne balanced with hints of garlic and sweetness, much like the Nether itself.
Griffin McElroy
Right.
Justin McElroy
Families and our youngest fans can also enjoy a Minecraft movie Happy Meal featuring one of 12 film inspired toys. Whatever. We don't care about this a Minecraft movie meal.
Griffin McElroy
I should say that I do care about it a great deal.
Justin McElroy
I care about it a great deal.
Griffin McElroy
It will absolutely invade and occupy my house like some sort of enemy from abroad.
Justin McElroy
So you can get one of six adult collectibles. There's a big sexual. There's a Big Mac.
Travis McElroy
No, no. Okay.
Justin McElroy
It's not like that.
Griffin McElroy
I got a creeper from my butt at McDonald's. I got a butt creeper from McDonald's.
Travis McElroy
It doesn't explicitly say that on the packaging, but if it fits, it sits. You know what I mean?
Griffin McElroy
It says it's an enderman for my butt from the McDonald's grown up happy Meal. Fuck yeah. Thanks, Ronald.
Justin McElroy
Thanks, man. Yeah. So you could get a Big Mac crystal mined from the sea of special sauce. This precious block derives its radiant shine from melty cheese and a toasted sesame bun. Birdie wings. Keep your eye to the sky or you might miss this early bird soaring high above the clouds with rare pair of electro wings.
Travis McElroy
What? Yes.
Justin McElroy
Fuck yeah, man. He has a fry helmet forged from the iconic French fry box. This enchanted helmet is rumored to protect your friends from stealing your last fry, which they have capitalized here. Absolutely demented Grimace egg emerging from the depths of a purple shake. This magical Grimace mob gets its shape for the most coveted egg of them all. Wait, Soda potion. The electrifying effect of this potion is as serious as its recipe. An accidental combo of fantastic fizzy flavors. And there's the Zombie Hamburglar. Yep, guys, there's the Zombie Hamburglar.
Griffin McElroy
What? Whoa. Too scary. Stop.
Justin McElroy
Little is known about this hungry mob who spawns late at night and wanders all biomes in search of hamburgers.
Griffin McElroy
So they got a Grimace in the back of every McDonald's. It's cloaca. Just constantly popping out a brood mother of Grimace eggs. We gotta stop this Corporation. We gotta oak jaw these corporations.
Travis McElroy
Its real name isn't Grimace. That's just the look on its face as it pops out its 200th egg of the day.
Justin McElroy
Guys, I'm gonna show you. If you will direct your attention to the console in front of you. I have had a signal rerouted so you can see these.
Griffin McElroy
I see you've googled Grimace. Cloaca here. Do you wanna walk us through some of the.
Travis McElroy
Oh no, that's just in his recent searches. Over and over and over is Claus again.
Justin McElroy
You see?
Griffin McElroy
Nah, man, we can't see anything here.
Justin McElroy
Oh, hold on. There you go.
Griffin McElroy
Oh, nice.
Justin McElroy
So we got zombie hamburgl, Grimace egg birdie wings. It's really good. And these are like. You get them in game too.
Griffin McElroy
You get in game skins with every collectible. Gosh dang it. And Nether flame sauce.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, guys. Yeah, it's really cool.
Griffin McElroy
And it's also a grown up happy meal that I get to eat so I don't have to be jealous of my kids every time they get a happy. Every time they get a happy. I know that Happy meals aren't for us. The amount of great exciting stuff my kids get in a happy meal makes me so. Makes me feel jealous. Just not for the food, but for the feeling of it.
Justin McElroy
Every Minecraft movie meal purchased through the McDonald's app also gives fans an in game bonus at no cost. We covered this.
Travis McElroy
Oh, that was close. I thought you were gonna say it gave money to charity, Justin. No.
Justin McElroy
God no.
Travis McElroy
Woo. That was close.
Justin McElroy
When approaching any partnership, we look for the authentic role our brand can play in it. Again, can I just say, for me, nailed it, guys. Absolutely.
Travis McElroy
Spitting here so organically for filth.
Griffin McElroy
McDonald's. Absolutely. We're dirty hogs and you got us.
Travis McElroy
Can I just say though, you caught.
Justin McElroy
Us in the trough, you got us. Exactly.
Griffin McElroy
We're filthy pigs and you got us right McDonald's.
Travis McElroy
I love the implication though that Minecraft, a Minecraft movie would come to McDonald's, be like, we want to party and McDonald's would be like, I don't see an organic way for that to happening. No deal.
Justin McElroy
My nearly 40 year old brother had to stop his comedy podcast to bust an authentic nut about how excited he is about eating a Happy Meal at McDonald's. You fucking got us.
Travis McElroy
You got it organic as well.
Griffin McElroy
I am not almost 40. And you. Will you retract that? I am 37. That's such a. That's basically mid 30s. So you.
Justin McElroy
So we build upon what they started our fans and created A totally immersive experience. Experience. A custom. A custom Minecraft movie. Meals in our restaurant.
Griffin McElroy
A custom of Minecraft.
Justin McElroy
Minecraft collectibles that unlock unique in game features. What's special about this campaign? Oh, you don't have to tell me, but you are. Okay. Is that every component will feel recognizable to both fan bases. A true merging of the McDonald's and Minecraft universes. These two are inextricable.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, for sure. I mean, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. When you play Minecraft, the order of your ideas goes, I'm gonna make a house. I'm gonna make a swimming pool. I'm gonna make a McDonald's and I'll live in a McDonald's. It'll keep you.
Justin McElroy
Obviously. I wanna make my house and then a McDonald's.
Griffin McElroy
I'll make my house. I'll make my church. I'll make my McDonald's. I'm set. That's my third location right there.
Justin McElroy
Thank you so much for listening to our podcast. It's called My Brother, My Brother Me. We've been doing it for a very long time. Since Griffin was nearly 30.
Griffin McElroy
No, like way, like way, way, way, way, way, way, way younger. Way more vital and fresh. We've only been able to do this show this long. We've been part of other projects and beautiful enterprises. This one has the most longevity and that's only not, you know, telling tales out of school here. Only because of you all. No other show or media thing that I have ever seen or know about, especially in our space, has that sort of relationship with the audience and the shows that they listen to. And it's very special and I'm so grateful and you can be a part of it and help us make this show and help us make a bunch of new stuff too. Over@maximumfun.org join pick the shows you listen to, your money goes straight to them and you get some great bonus content and other gifts too. This is our last episode where we're gonna talk about it this year. So if you think about it, do it.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. Along those lines. Can't stress enough. If you're like, oh, yeah, I'll do that later. Do it now. Cause time's gonna fly by and we want you to be a part of.
Griffin McElroy
This is our 14th time. Around the bend. You'll forget and that's okay.
Justin McElroy
We're not trust.
Travis McElroy
This is fine.
Justin McElroy
Just do it right now. Okay.
Travis McElroy
Also wanna say stream's coming up this week. We got the clubhouse stream Tuesday at noon Eastern time. Wednesday. Justin and Sydney are doing a fast x watch party at 9pm Eastern time Thursday the three of us are going to be doing a six thumbs one heart star road at 12pm Eastern time. That's the three of us splitting one controller to play Star road. When is that?
Justin McElroy
I didn't know we were doing that.
Travis McElroy
That's fun. Yeah, Thursday and yeah, we hit that stretch goal and Friday, Friday at 3pm Eastern time we're having a max fun east coast pizza party on the McElroy family YouTube channel so make sure you.
Griffin McElroy
Check it out if you missed it earlier today if you're listening to this on Monday I did another fuser stream that is probably the longest I've ever cried laughing on a video before. It was great. It goes way off the rails.
Travis McElroy
Oh and last week we put up when we were in Phoenix going on a hike through Dreamy draw.
Griffin McElroy
Yes.
Travis McElroy
If you did not see it please.
Griffin McElroy
Watch the McElroy's go on a hike on the McElroy family YouTube channel. It's a delight and I kind of liked it. I kind of liked it.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, I'd do it again for money, for content, you know.
Griffin McElroy
Wow.
Justin McElroy
Wow.
Griffin McElroy
Beautiful. Way to close out our last episode of the drive here on my brother and me. Seriously, thank you all so much. Help us reach our we have more stretch goals coming that are going to be enticing Trust also would be remiss.
Travis McElroy
And I know that we don't normally do plugs during max fundrive but next week we're on tour. Yes. Go to McElroy family or go to Bit Ly McElroytours to get your tickets I believe April 2nd, 3rd and 4th we're going to be in Richmond, Charlotte and Raleigh doing I believe in order my brother, my brother and me Adventure Zone My brother, my brother and me so go get those tickets Big Ly Macroytours and we'll see you there.
Griffin McElroy
How about a Faster than Fear? I'll read this one.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, you got it. Okay, let's do it.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. Yeah, let's do it. This year I'm gonna be faster than my fear of MMs specifically the weird living cartoon M and Ms. With their fleshy arms and legs and eyes.
Justin McElroy
My name is Justin McElroy.
Travis McElroy
I'm Travis McElroy.
Griffin McElroy
I'm Griffin McElroy.
Justin McElroy
My brother, my brother me kiss your dad square on the lips Is it better with you?
Unknown Singer
It's better it's better with you it's better my life it's better it's better with you Is it true? It's better it's better with you My life It's better with you.
Justin McElroy
Maximum fun.
Griffin McElroy
A worker owned network of artist owned shows supported directly by.
Podcast Summary: MBMBaM 755: Getting Crowded at Funny Beach
Release Date: March 24, 2025
Title: My Brother, My Brother And Me – MBMBaM 755: Getting Crowded at Funny Beach
Hosts: Justin, Travis, and Griffin McElroy
The episode kicks off with Griffin McElroy's trademark humorous disclaimer:
Griffin (00:00): "The McElroy brothers are not experts and their advice should never be followed. Travis insists he's a sexpert, but if there's a degree on his wall, I haven't seen it. Also, this show isn't for kids, which I mention only so the babies out there will know how cool they are for listening. What's up, you cool baby?"
Following Griffin’s introduction, Travis and an unknown singer contribute to a playful and quirky opening sequence, setting the comedic tone for the episode.
Justin McElroy opens the core content of the show by addressing a topical subject— the movie Wicked. The brothers engage in a humorous debate about whether to discuss the film or pivot to their ongoing Max Fun Drive. Griffin employs a vivid metaphor to illustrate his preference:
Griffin (01:40):
"I stand before a road diverging in the wood and before one path is a bunch of dirty fucking footprinted trash and mud and dog shit and grime. And there's a sign right there. It says this way to talk about Wicked."
Griffin (02:00):
"And the other way, get this, there's money laying everywhere. And it says this way to do your pledge break for the drive that only lasts one more."
Travis initially expresses interest in discussing Wicked but soon echoes Griffin’s concerns about the priorities, leading to a consensus to focus on their fundraising campaign.
As the conversation steers towards the Max Fun Drive, the brothers passionately advocate for listener support. Justin emphasizes the importance of the community’s contributions:
Justin (04:57):
"If you go to maximumfund.org/join, you can see all the details and see all the GIFs and see all the stuff. But the important thing is, this is the time of year we come to you and say, hey, if you like these shows, we would really like your help in making them possible. It is funded by you. And that's the reason we've been able to do this for over a decade."
Travis adds logistical details and encourages listeners to verify their membership status due to potential credit card changes:
Travis (05:37):
"If you think you're a member but you're not sure, cause of credit card changes over the last year, double check."
A listener named Nick Nameless from Naperville submits a question regarding workplace dynamics:
Justin (12:29):
"My name is Elliot. I've been working at the same company for 11 years, but I've changed departments a few years ago. Since changing departments, I've climbed up the ladder. Last summer, my old boss hired a new employee for my old job, and his name is Elliot. To be polite, I gave him the nickname Better Elliot so that I could keep Elliot nice. After a few months of calling him Better Elliot, my coworkers told me he's not the Better Elliot. He embellished a bit too much on his resume, and he isn't getting along with his team, and he's taking a bunch of time off from work. The problem I face is, should I keep calling him Better Elliot? And that's from Nick Nameless in Naperville."
Griffin’s Response:
Griffin (13:26):
"I think there's a smooth transition out of it where one day you make him spill a big jug of water right on his pants and you say, 'More like Wetter Elliot.'"
The brothers humorously dissect the dilemma, offering exaggerated but entertaining strategies to handle the awkward nickname situation. Justin suggests subtle shifts in the nickname to reflect the coworker's performance, while Travis and Griffin contribute with imaginative and comedic solutions, ultimately recommending a straightforward approach:
Justin (14:30):
"Elliot's foibles are your problem. I got out of that stinko department."
Transitioning into a practical advice segment, a listener from Canada poses a question about eating chicken wings while driving in heavy traffic:
Justin (22:10):
"Am I good? I'm alone in my vehicle but surrounded by other drivers in bumper to bumper traffic. And this is from commuter in Canada. So I should start by saying I don't know Canadian law."
The brothers delve into the complexities and safety concerns of multitasking while driving. Griffin emphasizes the cultural acceptance of being sloppy with food in the U.S., while Justin relates this to the current decline of chicken wing establishments:
Justin (23:00):
"Another thing about chicken wing culture in the States is that I meant to tell you guys, the BW3 is at the mall. Closed."
They humorously discuss the hypothetical repercussions of eating messy wings while driving, incorporating slapstick humor and exaggerated scenarios to illustrate potential dangers.
Returning focus to the Max Fun Drive, Griffin and Travis outline the benefits of supporting the network, highlighting exclusive content and community perks:
Griffin (34:21):
"We could use your help in continuing to make and grow these shows. Because of the support we've gotten from you all, we've been able to make this, first of all, our full-time jobs for a long time now."
Travis elaborates on membership tiers and incentives, encouraging listeners to upgrade and support with additional contributions:
Travis (20:10):
"As Griffin said, you can also upgrade. Maybe you've been $5 for a while now. You'd be $10. You've been $10 for a while. You can move up to 20."
The brothers reinforce the symbiotic relationship between creators and listeners, stressing the sustainability of their content through listener support.
In a satirical twist, the McElroy brothers create a mock advertisement for a fictional collaboration between McDonald's and a Minecraft movie, blending absurdity with parody:
Justin (51:37):
"So there is the normal kids Happy Meal, which we all love and revere, but now we've got a Minecraft movie meal."
Griffin and Travis join in the playful mockery, inventing elaborate and humorous product descriptions that merge fast food with gaming elements:
Justin (55:20):
"Families and our youngest fans can also enjoy a Minecraft movie Happy Meal featuring one of 12 film-inspired toys."
This segment showcases the brothers' comedic prowess, blending pop culture references with over-the-top product promotions for comedic effect.
As the episode nears its end, the brothers reiterate the importance of the Max Fun Drive, sharing their gratitude and detailing upcoming streaming events:
Griffin (61:52):
"Seriously, thank you all so much. Help us reach our... we have more stretch goals coming that are going to be enticing."
Travis announces their tour dates, encouraging listeners to engage with their live events:
Travis (63:44):
"Next week we're on tour. Yes. Go to McElroy family or go to Bit Ly McElroytours to get your tickets..."
The episode concludes with the brothers' signature playful banter and a reprise of the opening song snippet, leaving listeners entertained and amused:
Justin (64:10):
"Maximum fun."
Griffin (64:35):
"A worker owned network of artist owned shows supported directly by..."
Community Support is Vital: The McElroy brothers emphasize the importance of listener support in sustaining independent podcasting, highlighting how the Max Fun Drive funds their content creation and allows them to maintain creative freedom.
Humor as a Tool for Engagement: Throughout the episode, humor is employed not only for entertainment but also to discuss practical topics, such as workplace dynamics and driving safety, making advice more relatable and enjoyable.
Creative Content Production: The mock advertisement segment underscores the brothers' ability to blend creativity with satire, showcasing their unique approach to content production that resonates with their audience.
Enhanced Listener Interaction: By addressing listener questions and incorporating submitted content, the show fosters a strong sense of community and engagement, reinforcing listener loyalty and involvement.
Griffin on "Wicked" Decision:
"And I'm looking at that one." (02:05)
Justin on Max Fun Drive:
"It is funded by you. And that's the reason we've been able to do this for over a decade." (04:57)
Griffin on Handling "Better Elliot":
"It's not going to kill you to call a poor employee Better Elliot." (13:26)
Travis on Chicken Wing Culture:
"If you were here in the States, I'd say, yeah, 100% yummy. Down." (23:38)
Justin on Supporting Independent Media:
"I like when my media cares about people. I like when the stuff I make is beholden to the people who listen to it and not to big money corporate interests or the government." (47:18)
Griffin on Listener Support:
"We are not asking you to just do this for free. The bonus content, if you've never heard it, is wild." (48:38)
MBMBaM episode 755, "Getting Crowded at Funny Beach," exemplifies the McElroy brothers' blend of humor, insightful advice, and community engagement. Through discussions ranging from movie critiques to workplace dilemmas and playful satirical ads, the episode highlights the importance of listener support in sustaining creative endeavors. Notably, the ongoing Max Fun Drive serves as a pivotal theme, emphasizing the symbiotic relationship between content creators and their audience. This episode not only entertains but also reinforces the value of supporting independent media, making it a memorable entry in the podcast's extensive catalog.