464 - Dear Movies, I Love You

Summary

Podcast Summary: My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Episode: 464 - Dear Movies, I Love You
Release Date: January 23, 2025

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Introduction and Guest Introduction (00:01 - 02:15)

The episode opens with Georgia Hardstark greeting the listeners, followed by a brief introduction of the episode's sponsor. Shortly after, Casey O'Brien welcomes the primary guests: Millie de Chirico and Casey O'Brien. These two are introduced as a film programmer, historian, and a filmmaker who recently concluded their acclaimed four-year podcast run, I Saw What You Did. They announce their new venture, Dear Movies, I Love You, set to premiere on January 28th on the Exactly Right network.

Millie de Chirico (02:15): "It's called Dear Movies, I Love You. Please welcome Millie de Chirico and Casey O'Brien."

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Podcast Concept and Vision (02:33 - 06:18)

Millie and Casey delve into the essence of their new podcast, emphasizing their deep affection for films. They describe Dear Movies, I Love You as a "sincere celebration of film and film culture," aiming to make their discussions accessible and enjoyable for a broad audience. Millie highlights their desire to balance highbrow and lowbrow content, ensuring the podcast remains inviting and fun.

Millie de Chirico (03:23): "This podcast wants to hold up all types of films and make them celebrate them equally and they're meaningful equally. It's more about how these movies make us feel rather than the intellectual value."

Casey draws parallels between their new podcast and My Favorite Murder, noting the importance of connecting with like-minded individuals who share a passionate interest, fostering meaningful conversations over shared interests.

Casey O'Brien (06:18): "It's finding your people too, who can talk about this one movie for hours, even if they don't like it with you."

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Personal Relationships with Movies (06:18 - 09:11)

The conversation shifts to personal reflections on their emotional bonds with movies. Millie shares how films have been her refuge during challenging times, particularly highlighting their emotional significance beyond mere entertainment.

Millie de Chirico (05:27): "They are the one thing that has consistently stayed in my life that has been my refuge from all the bullshit."

Casey echoes this sentiment, appreciating the depth of connections forged through shared cinematic experiences, much like the community fostered by My Favorite Murder.

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Recent Movie Experiences and Favorites (09:20 - 18:14)

Millie and Casey discuss the movies they've recently watched. Millie mentions Better Man, a Robbie Williams film featuring an animatronic monkey, expressing surprise at its quality despite unconventional expectations.

Millie de Chirico (09:29): "That movie, to me, was so much better than it had any right to be. I was actually really impressed that that happened."

Casey shares his emotional response to Truly Madly Deeply, praising its portrayal of grief and the authentic performance by Alan Rickman.

Casey O'Brien (11:56): "It was so beautiful and touching. I truly, madly, deeply loved it."

Millie adds depth to this discussion by reflecting on her emotional connections to movies, emphasizing their role as emotional anchors.

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Navigating Movie Culture and Inclusivity (18:14 - 26:37)

The guests explore the idea of making cinematic discussions inclusive and approachable. Millie emphasizes the importance of mutual respect for differing tastes, advocating for celebrating diverse film preferences without judgment.

Millie de Chirico (07:41): "I would rather listen and be fascinated by your passion for something than just shitting on you for liking a movie I don't like."

Casey highlights strategies for easing into cinephilia, suggesting gateway films that can help newcomers appreciate more complex cinematic works.

Millie de Chirico (16:14): "These are like gateway directors that are like how you know, cinephile sort of found their way into movies..."

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Favorite Movie Theater Moments and Experiences (26:37 - 40:56)

The discussion transitions to memorable movie theater experiences, with guests recounting both amusing and unsettling incidents. Millie shares a harrowing experience involving a firecracker thrown during a screening of Furiosa, highlighting challenges faced in crowded theaters.

Millie de Chirico (33:32): "Firecrackers during Furiosa... it was insane."

Casey narrates a frustrating encounter with an elderly couple occupying his reserved seats during a screening of The Big Short, underscoring the importance of seat reservations and theater etiquette.

Casey O'Brien (37:31): "I was like, please, move over one seat."

Millie also reminisces about navigating dark theater environments, sharing a personal story of accidentally running into a wall while searching for her seat.

Millie de Chirico (39:42): "I just ended up very slowly running into the wall. It was so embarrassing."

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Video Store Memories and VHS Covers (40:56 - 49:56)

The conversation shifts to nostalgic memories of video stores and the evocative nature of VHS covers. Millie discusses her affinity for horror movie covers, reminiscing about titles like Happy Birthday to Me and Creepers, which left lasting impressions during her childhood.

Millie de Chirico (45:38): "Happy Birthday to Me... it was like a shish kebab skewer going through a guy's mouth into the back of his head."

Casey shares his adventurous venture into the X-rated section with his sister, highlighting the curiosity and discovery inherent in exploring diverse film genres.

Casey O'Brien (47:06): "We snuck into the X-rated... it blew my mind."

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Dream Guests and Future Aspirations (49:56 - 51:17)

Millie and Casey express their aspirations for future podcast guests. Millie dreams of hosting Martin Scorsese, appreciating his profound love for cinema, while Casey mentions Keanu Reeves as a potential dream guest, celebrating his passion for movies.

Millie de Chirico (50:28): "If we had Martin Scorsese on our podcast... he would be a dream guest of mine."

Casey adds enthusiasm about potential collaborations, emphasizing the alignment of their podcast's vision with these cinematic legends.

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Closing Remarks and Promotions (51:17 - 54:22)

In the concluding segment, Millie and Casey express their gratitude towards My Favorite Murder hosts for supporting their new venture. They encourage listeners to check out their podcast, leavened with personal anecdotes and appreciation for the support received.

Karen Kilgariff (53:34): "Congratulations. We love your show. We can't wait for everyone else to hear it."

The episode wraps up with promotional content, including credits and acknowledgments to the production team, ensuring listeners know where to follow and support their new podcast.

Casey O'Brien (53:27): "Dear Movies, I Love You launches on January 28 and new episodes will air every Tuesday."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Millie de Chirico (05:27): "They are the one thing that has consistently stayed in my life that has been my refuge from all the bullshit."

• Millie de Chirico (07:41): "I would rather listen and be fascinated by your passion for something than just shitting on you for liking a movie I don't like."

• Millie de Chirico (16:14): "These are like gateway directors that are like how you know, cinephile sort of found their way into movies..."

• Millie de Chirico (33:32): "Firecrackers during Furiosa... it was insane."

• Millie de Chirico (39:42): "I just ended up very slowly running into the wall. It was so embarrassing."

• Millie de Chirico (45:38): "Happy Birthday to Me... it was like a shish kebab skewer going through a guy's mouth into the back of his head."

• Casey O'Brien (37:31): "I was like, please, move over one seat."

• Millie de Chirico (50:28): "If we had Martin Scorsese on our podcast... he would be a dream guest of mine."

• Casey O'Brien (53:27): "Dear Movies, I Love You launches on January 28 and new episodes will air every Tuesday."

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Conclusion

Episode 464 of My Favorite Murder serves as an engaging platform for introducing Millie de Chirico and Casey O'Brien's new podcast, Dear Movies, I Love You. The episode is rich with personal anecdotes, insightful discussions on the emotional connections to films, and nostalgic reflections on movie-watching rituals. By integrating heartfelt stories with promotional content, the hosts successfully bridge their true crime community with the broader cinematic interests of their guests, fostering a sense of shared passion and community.

Listeners are encouraged to explore Dear Movies, I Love You for a blend of film enthusiasm, sincere conversation, and an inclusive approach to movie culture.

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Production Credits:

• Senior Producer: Alejandra Keck
• Managing Producer: Hannah Kyle Crichton
• Editor: Aristotle Acevedo
• Mixing: Liana Squalachi
• Researchers: Marin McLachen and Allie Elkin

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Note: This summary is based on the transcript provided and aims to encapsulate the essence of the podcast episode, ensuring clarity and cohesiveness for listeners who haven't tuned in.

Transcript

[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

My favorite.

[Casey O'Brien]

Hello and welcome to my favorite murder.

[Georgia Hardstark]

That is Georgia Hardstar.

[Casey O'Brien]

And that is Karen Kilgariff.

[Georgia Hardstark]

And today. Today we are so thrilled to be talking to two people you might already know. She is a film programmer and historian.

[Casey O'Brien]

He's a filmmaker and they just ended a critically acclaimed four year run on the podcast I Saw what yout Did.

[Georgia Hardstark]

And now they're back with a new show that premieres Tuesday, January 28th on the exactly right network.

[Casey O'Brien]

It's called Dear Movies, I love youe. Please welcome Millie de chirico and Casey O'Brien.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Woo.

[Casey O'Brien]

Hello.

[Unknown]

Hi guys.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Could you tell we were reading off a ton?

[Unknown]

Oh, it felt really good though.

[Casey O'Brien]

Pros. We're just pros at this.

[Georgia Hardstark]

How would you guys synopsize what you're doing on your podcast? Or like, what the, you know, what's your elevator pitch of the podcast vibe?

[Unknown]

Yeah, well, you know, it's the name of the podcast is Dear Movies. I love you. So it is kind of, you know, we say it's a, you know, having a crush on movies. It's an infatuation with movies. It's a sincere celebration of film and film culture and we just want it to be accessible to people because, you know, Millie and I, we can get in the weeds about, like, art house bullshit. But we, like. But we want to talk about it in a way that's, like, fun. And we also. We like high brow. We like really low brow, too. And so we want it to be, like, an inviting, fun, cute podcast. Yeah. Millie, anything to add to that?

Well, you know, I think I'm gonna get deep, perhaps a little deeper than Casey's just revealed. I personally, when I was. I'm kidding. You're not the himbo of the podcast, by the way. You're fine. You're not a film himbo, as I've heard in the past. I really. I think over the past couple years, especially during COVID Especially during, I don't know, just, like, living and life and bad news and, you know, things happening in the world, I started really thinking about, like, my relationship to movies because, you know, as a person who, like, lives alone and, you know, a lot of. And has worked in movies for over 20 years, I started thinking about, like, what? Like, do I have an emotional relationship with movies? Like, of course they're entertaining. Of course it's my job. Of course it's an intellectual pursuit, I guess. But what's, like, my emotional relationship to it? Like, do they do things for me? Are they my comfort? Are they my partner, for crying out loud? I mean, honestly. And I started thinking about it in that way where I was like, I don't know. Like, I think they are, like, it's the one thing that has consistently stayed in my life that has been, like, my refuge from all the bullshit, right? And there's some kind of. I don't know, I have this, like, you know, deep feeling of appreciation for, like, what the art form, I guess, if you want to call it that, has done for my life in that emotional kind of way. And so that's why I think when we were like, how. What's the vibe? You know, I was like, I don't know. We just love movies. We're, like, in love with movies. We have. We. We, like, have crushes on movies. And Casey, like, immediately was like, of course, like, I get it, you know, and so, I don't know, I think that that's sort of. I think what the podcast is also about is it's about sort of like being in love with this wacky world that we're in and, you know, just sort of, I don't know, like, being very earnest and sincere about it. So.

Yeah, and I think there's a lot of, like, judgment about, like, what movies you like or, like, what movies affect you the most. Like, it's very easy to be like, oh, that's a. You know, people will throw mo. You know, I said this even earlier where I was like, this is a stupid movie, like, I can't hardly wait or 10 things I hate about you, but those make me feel a certain way, and that is meaningful to me. And so I think our movie want. Our. Our podcast wants to kind of, you know, r. Hold up all types of films and make them, you know, celebrate them equally and they. They're meaningful equally. It's more about, like, how these movies make us feel rather than, you know, the. The intellectual value that something has, if that makes sense.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

And what I love about that too, is, I mean, it kind of reminds me of our podcast. And even though true crime has nothing to do with what you guys are doing, but it's finding your people too, who can talk about this one movie for hours, even if they don't like it with you. And, you know, yeah, like, the two of you found each other. And then your audience and your listeners are going to be like, absolutely or no, you're wrong, but you're still connecting in a way that's hard to do these days. It feels like everyone's just kind of having these, you know, superficial connections. But if you have this, like, interest that you're so passionate about, you can really connect with people.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah, I feel like. And you know, listeners, when you listen to episode one, like, there, you'll get that kind of that party. It's like movie party vibe where, like, the first time I listened to it, just your guys chit chat, where each topic and each movie and each thing that came up, it was like all in like, super interest, super passion. But then also just like these different takes where it's like, you know, waxing poetic about the Magic Mike trilogy, where it's like, I never thought about that before. That's really true. Like, just that kind of thing where it was like, you can be. You can be deep and analytical kind of about anything you want as long as you like it enough. And it felt like that, you know.

[Unknown]

Well, thank you.

Yeah. There's also, like, an episode that we have coming up that I really love because it. We're talking about a movie that Casey is extremely passionate about and is like a movie like, basically that his. The movie that radicalized him, that made him a film person, quote unquote. And it was we. And it was a movie that I had a very different opinion on. And we talk all that out in a way That I think is really cool. Like, just because there was something that he loves and connects with that didn't really get me in the same way. I was so, like, interested in just hearing him talk about it and hearing his relationship with it and sort of, like, what he liked about it. And. I don't know. I mean, I feel like that is something that our podcast is doing and will do really well, is just having that mutual respect for each other's taste. I mean, honestly, like. And that's something that I think is a thing that makes film people so annoying or intimidating, is that you have, like. Like I said, like, the wrong taste. You have bad taste, you don't like the right things. I don't really see it that way ever. I don't ever see people having that. Like, I don't. I would rather listen and be fascinated by your passion for something than just shitting on you for liking a movie I don't like. Do you know what I mean?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

I love that.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah. So you guys on your podcast usually start by telling each other the movies that you've watched recently. What movies have you watched recently?

[Unknown]

Millie, you go first.

Oh, God, I got to pull out my phone.

Letterboxd.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh, she's gonna go. She has to be legit.

[Unknown]

I got to be legit.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Did you watch a movie today?

[Unknown]

I watched a movie last night in the past. So it's been the past 24 hours. I watched this movie called Better Man. Have you heard of this movie?

Is this the Robbie Williams movie?

It is the Robbie Williams Animatronic where he's a monkey. Yes. Actually, it's not animatronic. It's, like, weird cgi, right?

Yeah.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

That movie, to me, was so much better than it had any right to be. I don't know why I was, like, expecting to go at it, being like, this is gonna be one of the most genuinely bizarre, like, weird outsider art things of our generation. And I was like, it's actually kind of good. Like, legit good.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Wow.

[Casey O'Brien]

Good for Robbie.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I mean, he was a superstar.

[Unknown]

Well, that's what I think is so fascinating about it, to be honest, because I'm like, okay. They let this movie happen, like, now where it's like, here's a star who was essentially not as famous here in America as he was, you know, in Europe, who hasn't really been around for, like, 20 years, and he's a monkey. And, like, I'm like. And it's his life story. I was like, wow, I can't believe that they Let that happen. I was actually really impressed that that happened. So anyway, Wow.

I feel like the whole narrative with Robbie Williams is like, nobody knows about him in America. And then, like, this movie came out and it was like, this movie's bombing in America and it's like, we don't know who he is. Why don't we go see this movie?

[Casey O'Brien]

Right?

[Georgia Hardstark]

You've never seen this monkey. We don't. We can't support this monkey. We don't know him.

[Casey O'Brien]

Casey, what did you watch recently?

[Unknown]

Okay, so I watched this movie called. And I was really weeping during this movie. Truly, madly, deeply. Have you ever seen this movie?

[Casey O'Brien]

Which one's that?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Like my favorite movie of all time.

[Unknown]

Oh, it is.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yes.

[Unknown]

I had never. I had, like, seen bits of it, but I watched it the other night and it's so beautiful and touching. It came out in, like, 1990. It's with Alan Rickman.

[Casey O'Brien]

And you told me about it.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah, Juliet Stevenson.

[Unknown]

Juliet Stevenson. And basically the premise is her boyfriend, Alan Rickman dies, is dead. This is you. This is not a spoiler. This happened. This is the beginning of the movie. But he comes back as a ghost. And it's. It's so romantic and sweet and silly. And I was like, this is like one of my new favorite movies of all time. I'm not even kidding.

[Casey O'Brien]

It was literally writing it down right now.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Well, also, because it's so heavy. Like, they do. They don't try to clean anything up. It's not the American version of if a girl's boyfriend died that she lived with and obviously is her life partner. It is like, there's a scene. I think it begins with a scene where she's at the therapist sobbing and trying to expl Explain how isolated she feels because he's gone and she's walking around and all these people are living life and whatever, and she's ugly, crying to a degree. Where it is like. I was like, who is this woman?

[Unknown]

Yes. She's incredible.

[Georgia Hardstark]

She's such a good actress.

[Casey O'Brien]

It's like showing grief the way it really is, which is so hard for anyone to, like, do if you don't understand.

[Georgia Hardstark]

And the end. Total no spoiler. But also, be careful. Cause of me. Cause I don't keep my promises. But essentially, the reveal. Should I not say the reveal?

[Casey O'Brien]

Don't say the reveal. I don't wanna know.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Okay, okay. Cause that reveal, when I first watched it, and same Casey, where it was me, my friend Dave Messmer, who we worked at the Gap together, and his friend, and she's the One that was like, we have to watch this movie. And all three of us were sobbing at the end, like, together sobbing. It was crazy. And it was just one of those weird. Like, it's just the perfect 90s. Like, real life. I don't know.

[Unknown]

Yeah, I mean, I was. I immediately. When the movie started, and it's like, happy tears. I feel like I felt good at the end of it. It's not like a downer. It's a happy. No, I think.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It's beautiful.

[Unknown]

It's really beautiful. And I really. I truly, madly, deeply loved it.

[Georgia Hardstark]

And who's the director? Do you remember? Offhand?

[Unknown]

Yes. It's Anthony Mangella who did the English Patient and the talented Mr. Ripley. It was his first movie.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's so good.

[Unknown]

Wow.

[Casey O'Brien]

It's his first movie.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Really?

[Casey O'Brien]

I'm saying, how did I miss that? As if I haven't missed every single fucking movie that has come out in the past.

[Georgia Hardstark]

You're not movie people, which I think is. This would be a perfect podcast for you because it's, I think, Casey and Millie kind of pulling people into the movie world. Like, it's gonna be okay. We're with you.

[Unknown]

Come in.

[Casey O'Brien]

You know what I am? I'm a. I find a movie I like, and I watch it 40 times, and there's no other. And I don't watch any other movies. It's not like I love this director. I'm gonna watch all their movies. I don't do that.

[Unknown]

I do that, too. I do that, too.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

There's no shame. That's the thing with our podcast. There's no shame.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

We are cringe, but we are free. We say that all the time.

We are cringe, but we're free. Exactly.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah. Can you guys give individually or together as a. As a team, like, three movies that you would recommend to people who love movies but are intimidated by coming into, like, a cine cinema graphic world. Is that the right word? Sure. Like, coming into the world world of film people, that's not so deep.

[Casey O'Brien]

And, like, you have to understand the meaning of. But it'll get you to those other movies that then you. Then you can appreciate because you.

[Unknown]

You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

Like, what do they call them? Like.

[Unknown]

Gateway drugs?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Well, I guess I have a question. How do you feel about subtitles? Because for some people, that's a big hurdle.

[Casey O'Brien]

I. I don't mind it.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Casey O'Brien]

I think the gateway part, though, for, like, the masses, there shouldn't be, though maybe one out of three.

[Unknown]

One out of three.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Okay, Whatever is needed.

[Unknown]

Millie, do you have. Did any come to mind immediately?

Yeah, I'm thinking on it. Well, this might be actually interesting exercise because Casey and I are. I'm a little older than Casey and I feel like this might be like this is gonna be showing our generational roots perhaps. You know what I'm saying? Because I think about like, what kind of got me into Cinephilia, if you will. Like, what was the movie that was the bridge between like, I don't know, Sixteen Candles and I don't know, Three Colors Red or something. I'm trying to think of something. I mean, I think for me she's.

Speaking in kind of film gibberish language right now. So.

Thank you.

If you didn't understand that. Don't worry, everybody.

Well, I mean, to me, I think when I first kind of was like in high school and in college and I was kind of making that jump, I mean, honestly, I think it was a lot of the American independence stuff from the 90s. So like, I'm thinking of things like, you know, Jim Jarmish, Stranger Than paradise or down by Law or you know, Alison Anders, Gas, Food, Lodging, you know, this kind of stuff that was sort of like in the kind of indie cinema stuff in the 90s. That's what I was kind of like. Oh yeah, there was like, you know, SNL comedies and then there's this, right? And so that's kind of how I started kind of getting into like more of a kind of cinema world. Right? But then I also think too stuff like Stanley Kubrick's like the Shining, that those types of movies that are kind of like horror but then kind of what they would call maybe like elevated horror now, which drives you crazy. But you know, in a way it's like, here's a horror movie which is kind of traditionally a genre that brings in a lot of like young people. It's kind of broad audience stuff, but then like it's a little bit more stylish and is a little bit more open ended in terms of themes. So maybe something like that, like the Shining and then for a third. I mean, I gotta say, I mean again, this is sort of like maybe for a little people who are a little bit younger, but like those like early Wes Anderson movies like Bob Rocket or like, I mean Rushmore was kind of my favorite out of that stuff. But you know, even like World Tenements, I feel like that kind of stuff would take. Would basically set you up in terms of. Okay, so here's like an Auteurist director who has. Who's building a sort of cinema language for his work, you know what I mean? And that's kind of, I don't know, maybe if you're kind of getting into that kind of stuff, that would be like a good entry point.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's perfect. Yeah.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Actually my niece Sophie texted me because she went and saw the Shining at the theater and she was like, hey, I just saw the Shining. You've seen that, right? And I was just like, this is so weird. Of course. I was like, yes, of course. She's like, it was so was crazy. And I'm like, yeah, I. It was like the cutest kind of discovery moment that she wanted. She brought to me cuz she was like, I feel like you're the kind of person that would appreciate that movie. And I'm like, yes, I do.

[Unknown]

I really do.

Yeah, I would say, I think that's right on. I think there are some like gateway directors that are like kind of like how you know, cinephile sort of like found their way into movies for my age, you know, Millie mentioned I'm very young. That so like I would say Paul Thomas Anderson is a really good director to kind of follow his career because he did like Boogie Nights, which is art house film I would say, but also like a major studio film. But then you know, he did like There Will Be Blood a few years later, which is a lot, I would say, darker and weirder and that was like nominated for like, but the best picture and stuff. But it kind of is a good way to like get into more of the like highbrow, you know, cinephile movies. And then so that's like more on the easier end. And I would say like, you know, we're recording this today. One of the great film directors died. Yeah, David lynch, my favorite director. And he's like a great. That he's kind of. You have to. If you want to get into film, you have to see some of his movies. And I would say the entry point for that for him would be Blue Velvet. I would say it's a weird, but it feels weird. It feels like this is like no other movie I've ever seen. But the plot makes sense and you can understand why things are happening where that cannot be said for most of his other movies. So that's like a good. If you want get into David Lynch, I would say start with Blue Velvet.

[Casey O'Brien]

You know, I think that's so true. That's why Mulholland Drive is one of my favorite movies of all Time is because the first time I watched it, I was like, there's no plot. I don't get it.

[Unknown]

Totally.

[Casey O'Brien]

Like, there's. You know, it's just a movie. There's no plot. And then I watched it again, and I was like, holy. Like, the way it blew my mind that when I could finally follow the plot, blew it so hard that nothing has ever lived up to that again.

[Unknown]

Yeah, I totally agree. Because we. We did that movie for, like, one of the last episodes of I Saw what yout Did. And I had seen it, like, maybe twice in the past. Once when it came out, which I was totally with you, Georgia, like, was like, I don't know, what's going on. Whatever. Yeah, it's a vibe, I guess it's a vibe.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

But I don't know anything. And then the second time I watched it, I was, you know, like, maybe sort of getting into it a little bit more. But then when we rewatched it for the episode, I had this, like, revelation. And I was like, I know everything about this movie. And I wanted, like, Dan. I told Danielle. I was like, we're gonna have to really watch the clock. Because I could talk about this movie for, like, four or five hours. I have so much to say.

[Casey O'Brien]

It's like everything clicks together all of a sudden. And I love it.

[Georgia Hardstark]

When I saw that movie, my friend Danny and I hated it so much that, like, five days later we were at a barbecue together. And a guy we did not know happened to nearby us say that he liked that movie. And we harangued him until he left the party. Cause we were like, what are you talking about? Which is, of course, our very 90s personality, which was lauded back then when you were just, like, overtly hostile for no reason to every single person. But it was this thing of, like, I don't know what you're talking about, but it's like, of course that's what David lynch is trying to get you to do. He's like, do you like this or do you absolutely hate it? Okay, here's a little more. Like, I just think that part of it is making people who maybe wouldn't even think to do it suddenly talk about movies, know what they like about movies. Like, know that their opinion counts about movies. It's cool. Yeah, totally rip to a great one.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Yeah, it's.

[Casey O'Brien]

It spums me out. Not as a huge movie person, but just, like, having a weirdo in the world is, like, really comforting. You know, like Paul Reubens kind of a thing where it's like, it's comforting to know there are people out there doing whatever the fuck they want to do.

[Unknown]

Well, I think David lynch is special as an artist outside of, like, the movies he made, because his whole thing was like, you do not need to suffer to make great art. That was, like, his big message. And I think that a lot of people feel like when you make art or any sort of, like, project, you're like, you need to die for this. You need to starve yourself, you know? And I feel like David lynch was very much like, no, you need to be like, it. It's better to be a happy person making art. And you can still make art about dark things. And God knows he did, but it's like, you still need to, like, take care of your. I think that's a good message.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Millie, did you say what your movie most recent was?

[Unknown]

Yeah, Better Man.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh, so sorry. I got so excited about Truly Madly Deeply, because it's like. It's literally like, I made that movie. Nobody knows that movie ever. And, like, I'm always telling people, you gotta watch it.

[Unknown]

I was shocked. I looked on letterboxd, and, like, no one I follow has watched it. And I was surprised because I was like this. It's just. It's an incredible film.

You, Casey, you have, like, in the past have done this very similar thing where you have pulled out, like, this unknown rom com and have become, like, its number one fan. I think that's lovely about. Wow. I was like, oh, this is like, fucking weird rom com that no one's seen in, like, 30 years, Casey. Five stars on Letterboxd now. Nobody else I know has seen it, and then I'm compelled to go watch it.

So I'm a lover, I'm a feeler, and I love digging up these. These rom coms. No one's watching.

I love it.

[Casey O'Brien]

Casey, are you so excited to finally get some fucking attention in this podcasting.

[Georgia Hardstark]

World since you've kind of been no longer a producer?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah. You've been behind the scenes.

[Unknown]

Oh, my God.

Finally. Yes. I get to emerge from behind the. I don't know.

[Casey O'Brien]

It's the sweet spot.

[Unknown]

Yeah. No, I mean, yeah, I'm thrilled. I mean, it was such an honor that Millie, you know, reached her hand down into the gutter and pulled me out of it and allowed Pennywise down there. Yeah, I think. Pennywise. Yeah.

[Georgia Hardstark]

How did you guys, like, come to that idea that you, like, this is a movie podcast? Like, what was the thinking behind all of that?

[Unknown]

Well, like, I saw what you did was ending, and Millie wanted to do an another show, and I was kind of like, well, I was like, please let me produce it. So that was sort of the impetus, just, you know, Millie making a new movie show.

Yeah, we joked about this. We joke about this in the pilot episode, actually. I don't know if I should say it, but that I was like, basically like Bradley Cooper and a star is born. And I, like, found Casey, the Lady Gaga character, like, doing a little burlesque in a shitty bar. And I was like, come into my limo. I'm gonna make a star movie. No, I was like, here's the thing about Casey. Like, I have heard him on other podcasts before, and he's so charismatic, so funny. Knows a lot about movies. Like, has, like, you know, when you. When you hear people or you meet people that have, like, you know, you have, like, similar opinions about things, and it's like, yes, they get. They would get me. Oh, yeah, yeah. Very crucial for me, I just have to say, by personality, I need to be understood. That is, like, my lot in life. And so I was like, oh, here's somebody who. I think we line on a lot of similar stuff, and we're not, like, the types to like the same things. That's what I'm saying. Which I love. I love that we don't like the same things necessarily, but our reasons for liking and hating things are the same, if that makes sense.

[Casey O'Brien]

You respect that the other person's wrong, Essentially.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

Yeah. Or like, the reason why you don't like something is the reason why I wouldn't like something.

[Casey O'Brien]

Right.

[Unknown]

You know, even though those two things would probably are different, I guess.

[Casey O'Brien]

Totally.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

But I would hear him on these other podcasts, and, yeah, I mean, it was just like, well, I want to do a show with him. Does he want to do a show with me?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Is the eternal question.

[Casey O'Brien]

Totally.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Yeah. I mean, it was just so funny. Millie, I feel like up until recently, you're, like, just checking in. You want to do this show with me, right? And, no, I mean, I. I feel like Millie and I always, like, I, I. We always connected really well, and I wanted to keep working with her if she wanted to keep making podcasts. So that was sort of the, like, the beginning of the show.

[Georgia Hardstark]

We want to get a sense of. Through the move. We're just trying to do the movie thing along with you. We want to get a sense of who you are as people. What do you get when you go to the movie theater? What is your snack combination?

[Unknown]

This is a great question. And actually I feel like a lot of our show is like, about the like movie watching ritual too. Like what we do when we watch movies. I always get popcorn and I always try to get a cherry Coke. Those are kind of my go to. It's hard for me to incorporate candy into it because if I need the. I need the pop and then I need. But the candy in the pop is just too much sweetness. So I don't know. That's the popcorn. And cherry Coke is my go to.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's lovely.

[Georgia Hardstark]

That's nice.

[Unknown]

The popcorn thing is absolute. Like, I. Movie theater popcorn always gives me a stomachache. But I don't care.

Me too.

That's like the problem. I was just like, I don't care if I'm on the toilet for like three days after this. I have to go, I have to eat it. Like I don't know what it is.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

And then I'm with you, Casey. Like what I started. It was always for a very long time, the Peanut M&Ms. On top of the popcorn.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yes, yes, 100%.

[Unknown]

Which I used to call like trail mix. It's like trail mix. This is healthy. Right? But then lately I've been. Because. Yeah. I don't want to get the soda if you're getting candy. So I switch. And now it's either that I get the popcorn in a Coke icy.

Ooh.

You know, which is the only time I ever drink full flavored Coke. I usually do not drink. I usually do like diet or Coke Zero or.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah. You know, but in an icee. It's the most delicious thing of all time.

[Unknown]

I have to.

[Georgia Hardstark]

So good.

[Unknown]

So it's either that and then I alternate with the M, the peanut MMs. But always popcorn.

[Casey O'Brien]

So can I ask you guys a question? You guys are all moviegoers. I don't go to the theater. And I've always wondered this. Are you supposed to finish your snacks before the movie starts? That always blew my mind. Where it's like you have to save it and you're supposed to eat it before. Right.

[Unknown]

I can't help myself sometimes.

[Georgia Hardstark]

You mean like in the 15 minutes of trailers and stuff?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah. And then everyone stops eating when the movie starts. So I feel self conscious chewing loudly when the.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Wait.

[Unknown]

So you feel self conscious chewing when the movie has started? You think you need to scarf the food.

[Casey O'Brien]

It seems like everyone else has. Art finishes their. I don't know if it was like a rule that I just didn't fucking know.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I don't. I've never finished my snacks before.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I mean, not to say it's like. It's not like I haven't put a serious dent in, but to me, part of the joy of like the big bucket of popcorn and watching a movie is like the zone out and just insane. Just like.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Just shoveling it into your face in the dark, that's the fun of it.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay, that's good to know.

[Unknown]

I. A lot of times I do. I don't know if it's to a completion, but I. I'm like 75% there.

Me too. That's exactly what I was gonna say. I'm 75% there. You know, I'm peeking at the. Right when the movie starts, and then I can pick my spots when I.

It's not out of respect, though. It's out of just me being gross. And I'm like, I'm starving.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

And then sometimes I do a thing where I will, you know, go to that 75% and then save the 25 and then we'll dip in like an hour. Into the milk. Sure. Into the film. So I'll just like pick it back up again.

[Casey O'Brien]

Like, oh, yeah, yeah.

[Unknown]

It's like, I remember I had this, but yeah, I'm housing that shit. Like, I'm like, yeah, hell yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay, that's good to know. Honestly, I've like, been worried.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah, don't worry about those other people. I have a follow up to that question, which is, who's the most famous person you've ever seen at the concert session stand at the arc light here in Los Angeles?

[Unknown]

Oh, shit.

Oh, man.

Danielle and I saw somebody that was on Seinfeld not as a main character, but some recurring. And now I can't remember who it was. Was it like a Patrick Warburton or something like that? Oh, yeah, but it was definitely.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Or the guy with the white hair.

[Unknown]

Yeah, it was definitely some beloved side character from Seinfeld. We saw it.

[Casey O'Brien]

Wow.

[Unknown]

At the arc Light.

The arclight was a good place to spot celebrities, I feel like.

[Casey O'Brien]

Or like, oh, yeah.

[Unknown]

Known people. I don't know why this guy popped into my head, but at. I was seeing. Nope. At the art cli. I think it was. Nope. Or it was us. One of the Jordan Peele movies. And Tom Morello was getting popcorn of Rage against the Machine. Guitarist was popcorn.

[Georgia Hardstark]

That is a good one.

[Unknown]

I was always so jealous whenever I would hear the stories of Keanu Reeves going to the arc light. And I was like, when does he go and how come I'm not there? At the same time, I saw him.

[Casey O'Brien]

At the Beverly Center. You gotta go to the mall, too.

[Unknown]

I know Beverly Center.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I mean, the only reason I wrote that question in was because I saw Colin Farrell at the Arclight concession stand. So I reverse engineered that entire thing simply to be able to tell that story again.

[Unknown]

Oh, man. We're Ferrell for Ferrell.

We are. We're a pro feral podcast. We know this.

[Georgia Hardstark]

How could you be anti. I. I challenge you, but I swear to God, I felt him coming from, like, 500 paces. I was just like, what's this? There's electricity in the air down here in the lower concession area. And then I looked over there he was. Glasses, headband, weird workout clothes. He absolutely was like. The aura was, like 20ft in front of him. He knew it. We all knew it. It was amazing.

[Unknown]

It's like an age.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Gorgeous movie stars at the movies. Like, what more do you want?

[Casey O'Brien]

You guys, do you have a favorite movie theater moment? Now that we're talking about them? Besides finishing all the amazing food, what.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Radicalized you in the movie theater?

[Unknown]

Millie had kind of a crazy one recently. This isn't a good memory, but this is something bad that happened where someone was throwing a. Yeah, a fire.

Firecracker during Furiosa.

[Casey O'Brien]

Shut up. What happened?

[Unknown]

It was insane. Like, did you do it? Oh, no. I wish. No, it was. It was an hour into Furiosa.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, shit.

[Unknown]

All I know is that it was packed. It was like the Thursday that it came out, so it was like no empty seat. And then all of a sudden, you would see. You saw this, like, like, fireball sail through the air.

Jesus.

Landed in, like, the first, like, five rows of seats. And then everybody just jumped up.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

And every. Like, the whole theater, it was like we were in this, like, frozen moment of. We were, like, waiting for an explosion or something. It was, like, really hard. So everybody was, like, stood up and, like, kind of moving towards the emergency exits, but nobody was. We were kind of, like, frozen, waiting to see, like, what would happen where. With the fire, like, either it was gonna just fizzle out, explode. Somebody was gonna, like, get burned. We were just waiting for something to happen. And then by the. By the time anything was supposed to happen, the fire alarm got pulled and every. They were, like, clearing people out, so we had to leave anyway.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's. You can't do that. These. That's an 80s trickin.

[Unknown]

And this movie theater. I'm gonna. That I'm gonna call this movie theater out in Atlanta. Chronically. There's always teenage antics at this place. And if you every Time. Because this is not the first time there's been some malarkey here. And like, this is the problem with the movies is that it's not just teenagers running scams, but it's like the teenagers run the place. So they're in cahoots. And so nothing gets done. There's no policy that gets enacted of this. And so every time something has happened in this movie theater, including the fireworks saga, I have asked one of my friends that has kids. I was like, is it a school holiday? And they were like, yes. And I'm like, so the messaging is that on a school holiday, the kids go to the movie theater and cause trouble. So now I stay away.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Georgia Hardstark]

They're like, that's their way to party.

[Casey O'Brien]

This is what I think every movie's like. That's why I don't.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It's always firecrackers. And somebody, especially that movie is. It's already so tense and so much going on.

[Unknown]

Yeah. And it was. We had to get. We got a pass to come back to see the last hour of it, like an hour into it. It was so annoying. But I don't know. Casey, what about you?

Do you have any memorable film or movie theater experience? Well, I mean, I kind of talked about this on one of our episodes, the. Where I had to, like, yell at those old people because they were in my seat. I. I've had a lot of issues with people sitting in my seat when it's a reserved seat. I don't know how you both feel about the reserve seats in the movie theaters, but I like it. I like having a reserve seat for myself. And my wife and I were in the theater. It was like a sold out theater. We were seeing the big short, and we got there right when the movie started. And there were these. I go to the. The. This is at the arc light. And I go to, like, the guy working. I'm like, where are our seats? I can't even see. It's so dark. And he's like, they're up there. But I can see that there's a guy sitting in your seat, so you're gonna have to ask him to move. And I'm like, oh, God. So basically it was this elderly couple, and they're. Imagine there are four seats, and they own. They own two of them, but they're sitting in the middle, and we own two of them, but they're sitting in the middle, too.

[Casey O'Brien]

And so they have to know, you can't do that. I'm sorry. I'm angry.

[Unknown]

They have to scoot over one, you know, to make room for us. And so I go up and I'm like, hi, sir, you are in my seat. And he's like, what? And I was like, and the movie has started. And I was like, you're. Oh, you're in my seat. I paid for these seats. And his wife is like, what's going on? And I'm like, oh, my God. I was like, please. And the movie has started. And I'm like, please, move over one seat. And then the people behind them are like, why are these people standing in the middle of the movie? And I was like. I was like, this is my ticket. Move over one. And finally they did get the message and move over one. But that was a pretty harrowing experience.

[Casey O'Brien]

Then you have to sit next to them.

[Unknown]

I have to sit next to them the whole time.

[Georgia Hardstark]

No, hold on a second, though. Just to Devil's advocate.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Why were you so late?

[Unknown]

That's what my mom said to me, too. She was like, well, it's your fault. You were late to the movie. So with some respect, you know that's true. I can't deny I was wrong for being late to the movie.

[Georgia Hardstark]

But the last time we went to the movies, it was a very similar situation. Except for I was the late one. And the movie theater, for some, it was in my hometown. It was so dark inside the movie theater that I couldn't find the rose. Walking like the letter RO walking up and no idea what the number of seat. So my cousin is up there somewhere. And I walk halfway down, and it's pitch black. Like, I can't see anything. And it's one of those ones where, you know, the newfangled movie theater seats where it's like a Lazy Boy recliner. So I'm walking really slow. Cause I don't wanna slam my shins into a recliner thing. And I just am, like, guessing as to where my seat would be or where my cousin is. So I'm bending over and trying to look into people's faces. Oh, my God. Like, halfway walking really slow. And I just go. I'm like, anna. And then this girl just goes, no.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, no.

[Georgia Hardstark]

And then I just. So I keep going. And then I just end up very slowly running into the wall. Because it was one of those small theaters that doesn't have stairs on either side. It was just like. I just got to the end by touching my nose to a carpeted wall.

[Casey O'Brien]

That hurts me.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It was so embarrassing.

[Unknown]

That is just so scary, though. It's so. It can Be so dark in there. And there's, like. You know, there's, like, dozens of people sitting quietly, and you're, like, trying to navigate them. I mean, it's like a horror movie.

[Casey O'Brien]

And they can see you fine because their eyes are adjusted.

[Georgia Hardstark]

And it was the beginning of a complete unknown where it's so dark. The guys. It's so dark, and they're in a hospital while someone is dying of a degenerative disease. And you're like, so when I hit the wall, my cousin Sophie is the one that's there. And she goes, did you just run into the wall? And I'm like, thanks for your help. And she goes, I couldn't see you. I didn't know it was you until you started laughing.

[Unknown]

That's so funny you said that, because I saw that movie in the theater, too. And the opening, the first, like, five minutes of a complete unknown is so dark that I thought I was about to go to the projection booth and be like, could you, like, I don't know if the. You know, the movie's playing right? Or whatever? And I could.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I.

[Unknown]

There are people just like you who were, like, fumbling, stumbling, because it was so. I was like, why is this gonna be so dark? I don't understand where we're at.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It was crazy.

[Unknown]

Oh, my gosh.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Wild. Should we let you guys host a little bit? What? You know, you guys host, like, it's your podcast.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah. You go.

[Unknown]

Yeah. We have a few questions here lined up. Millie, do what. What should we start with here?

Oh, gosh, I don't know. You know, this is. We were talking about, you know, kind of what we're gonna do for this podcast, like, how we're gonna set it up, and what are these, like, questions that we want to ask our guests? Right. And one of the things that came to mind, I mean, again, like, this. This podcast that we're doing is also about, like, movie culture. So, you know, we're talking about not just, like, movie theater going, but like, like, video stores and, you know, know, just stuff that if you're into movies or there's, like, these little rituals, these little, you know, little things that we do. And one of the questions that we like to ask is imagine that you're in a video store. And so if you're, you know, going through the video store, what's, like, the first VHS or DVD cover that comes to mind when you enter into the store?

[Casey O'Brien]

Do you have yours?

[Georgia Hardstark]

I do.

[Unknown]

Oh, good, good.

[Casey O'Brien]

It's not going to be the same for. For sure.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It'd be amazing if it was, say.

[Casey O'Brien]

At the same time. One, two, three. Twins.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Fish Called Wanda.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, Fish Called Wanda.

[Unknown]

I can see both of those perfectly in my head, like so much. Absolutely.

[Casey O'Brien]

Well, how did that hat. Why is that twins? For some reason? That's. That's the. That's the one with.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

Schwarzenegger, Danny DeVito. Yeah, yeah.

[Unknown]

Now, what's your relationship with that movie, Georgia? Do you have a relationship?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yes. I was the right age and every other weekend at my dad's house. My single dad. And so we had a. We would have to rent a VCR from the real store, but we're gonna do that. And so we just fucking love that movie and watch the shit out of it. I'm sure it's so inappropriate for children now.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Okay, Very good. And Karen, what about A Fish Called Wanda? Do you have any relationship with that movie?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Well, the first thing I saw was Kevin Kline with his like balancing on something, which actually could be from a different movie. But I'm picturing him, like, I feel like he had that spate. This run of movies from like 84 to 95, where it was like it would be Kevin Klein on the spine of a VHS tape, like balancing on a chair or like having a mustache.

[Casey O'Brien]

Both these movies are posing for the COVID Like, they're not like, take clip from the movie. They're like the cast, they're posing.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I totally see it, the visual part, but I think Kevin Kline, anything he was doing, I wanted to be there for it. And my family would be too. Like A Fish Called Wanda made my parents laugh so hard. It was one of those kinds of that and the Four Seasons where you're like, what's going on? That they like this so much. So then it made me pay more attention to the actual comedy. Cause I was interested in what. What was everyone doing that was eliciting that response. Cause they were not easy laughers and they were like crying, laughing. So I think it was that piece of it where it's like kind of what our family liked a little bit.

[Unknown]

It is funny because I feel like you mentioned that these are both posing for the poster. And I feel like that's such a lost art. Everything's Photoshopped now. Or it's a still taken from the movie or something, but very poorly too.

[Casey O'Brien]

These like, these weird. Like it looks like a Hallmark movie poster, but it's like a big budget movie.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

I don't know if people. They just can't be, you know, these stars can't don't want to get back together for a fun little shoot or something, but.

[Casey O'Brien]

Right.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Get in front of that white psych and sell this thing.

[Unknown]

Well, very good. That's. I love that. Millie, you know what? I don't feel like you have answered that question. What, what, what's what's like the VHS cover that comes to your mind?

Well, to. I mean, I was such a video store loser as a kid. I mean, I was there constantly and it was just like, you know. Well, first of all, my parents never let us go to the movie theater. They were too cheap to let us go to first run movies. So we were at the video store constantly. And I. All of my good memories from video stores come from the horror movie section. It's just what clicked in my brain. And so I think for me, the first one that comes to mind is the COVID for a movie called Happy Birthday to Me. And it's a. Basically a. A shish kebab skewer going through a guy's mouth into the back of his head. Happy Birthday to Me.

I have never even heard of this movie.

What? Oh my God.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It's a classic.

[Casey O'Brien]

Really?

[Unknown]

You know it.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was in the solid horror section, which I wouldn't necessarily be that interested in, but you would kind of love the like, I was thinking that would always be next to like Christine and then like something else. So you'd be like, oh, I would watch a Stephen King. Oh my God, Happy Birthday to me. Or like the one where the, like, she will have her revenge. There was some really dark late 70s horror that would get mixed in there. So then it would just be like, well, we can't rent that. But what is it like, what's happening over there?

[Unknown]

There was another one that is in that era, I think, or around that era. The movie was. I think the movie is called Phenomena by Dario Argento, the, you know, Italian horror director, but it was called Creepers. And it was basically the. The COVID was like an illustration of Jennifer Connelly, the actress Jennifer Connelly, with half of her face being ripped off by like, like insects.

There's a lot of bugs and phenomena, AKA Creepers.

And this is just on a shelf at my height, which at the time I was probably like, what, 3ft tall or something? I mean, I was like. And I'm going, yeah, this is like totally ruining my life. Like all of these little boxes, they were so evocative, so freaky. And it just, you know, those are the things that I kind of gravitated towards, I think.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, definitely.

[Georgia Hardstark]

And you were in there like staring at these boxes like you, it was quiet, like the library. Yes. And you were desperately effort to pick something that would actually entertain you because that was like your one chance where it's like, go find something. And then it was like, what will I pick that will actually make me happy?

[Casey O'Brien]

And your sibling can't just. So you have to, you guys have to agree on it. Yeah, that's the worst part.

[Unknown]

Fabulous. I love talking about VHS covers in the video store because I just think it's like a tie. It's like when you sort of start, learn, like movies become evocative to you at a very young age where you're like, what is that? I need to know what that is. And I think that sort of.

[Casey O'Brien]

Well, you know, my sister and I snuck into the X rated. We pushed the curtain aside and ran into the X rated video store section.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Casey O'Brien]

When no one was looking.

[Georgia Hardstark]

How was it?

[Casey O'Brien]

I, I, we were, I read about this in our book. I was like, you have. I was so overwhelmed and like, you have to look at one and you have to pay attention. You have to like focus on it or you're not going to see anything, you know, because I was so overwhelmed.

[Unknown]

That's really good. That's like a mature thought process going into this.

[Casey O'Brien]

It's like circle, circle, circle. And I was like, just look at something. And so I looked at it. It was called Naked with Shoes on. And it blew my mind. Interesting. She had like tennis, you know, like LA gear, tennis shoes and like scrunched socks and was like clearly naked everywhere else. Naked with shoes on. I was like, oh my God, that's a thing. Like, I just, I didn't realize adults were like into it. Naked with shoes on.

[Unknown]

That is so such a weird concept now that I think about it, because like my local video store had that section as well curtained off. So you're predictably like in the family video store with like other people in your community.

So you're seeing like neighbors, you're seeing your pastor, you're seeing your.

So it's like, then all of a sudden it's like your friend's dad like disappears behind the curtain. And I'm like, yeah, that would never. Like, that is such a weird concept. I don't know if that would happen these days. Like, nobody wants to be in the X rated video section while people are running twins. Right. It's like a different vibe.

[Georgia Hardstark]

So it's like pervs go in the back.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

They don't want that for Themselves.

[Georgia Hardstark]

No, but they all had that, though.

[Unknown]

They did.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It was always like, beaded curtain, kind of like, here's the sexy area.

[Casey O'Brien]

Did you ever rent anything when you.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Got older in the beaded, sexy area?

[Unknown]

No.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh, my God.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, me neither.

[Unknown]

Just.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I just watched the Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover a bunch of times.

[Unknown]

That's a great art house movie. I love it.

[Casey O'Brien]

I don't know, though.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It's very sexy and dirty and there's a lot of, like, pate on naked bodies.

[Unknown]

I think Helen Mirren is, like, covered in rotting meat, completely nude at some point in that film.

[Casey O'Brien]

Sexy.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yes.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Excellent.

[Casey O'Brien]

But does she have shoes on?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Wow. The idea that they just named it what the thing is, is the funniest. I love it so much and I.

[Casey O'Brien]

Tried to look it up and I can't find it. Like, it might not exist in real life. It might just exist in my mind. I want to ask one last question. Do you guys have a dream guest and David Lynch RIP that would have been amazing. But do either of you have a dream guest?

[Unknown]

I mean, Keanu Reeves, I've already. I say that every.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Can you imagine?

[Unknown]

I always say, Keanu Reeves could happen.

Could love for that to happen.

[Georgia Hardstark]

He loves movies.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, he does.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Always has.

[Unknown]

I. I feel like one that I thought would. I was like, if we had Martin Scorsese on our podcast. I mean, he's like, such a movie lover. That's why I feel like he would fit in well with our show, but so he would be a dream guest of mine.

[Casey O'Brien]

Put those out into the universe.

[Unknown]

I'll appeal to him as a fellow Italian American, and I. I will talking about, you know, cannolis and other Italian things, and hopefully he'll come.

[Georgia Hardstark]

So, yeah, I watched a documentary forced with my dad about the Automat in New York City that he was in and talked very passionately about the Automat and what the Automat was like. It was hilarious.

[Unknown]

Yeah. No, he would be awesome.

[Casey O'Brien]

Let's do it.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah, that's a good one.

[Casey O'Brien]

We'll get on that here at. Exactly. Right.

[Unknown]

Fabulous.

[Georgia Hardstark]

We're gonna do everything we can. All right. Do you guys have. Is there anything else you wanna talk about or a plug or anything?

[Unknown]

No, we just really. We just really are so thankful for you both, for, you know, respecting the vision and helping us get it going. And we're just so happy to be back doing film podcasts with. Exactly right. I mean, I had such a great experience the first time, and, like, when we were talking about ending, you know, I saw what you did. I was like, no, I want to stay. Don't pull me out of my dream. So I was, you know, like, really, really excited that we kind of kept it in the fam, you know, with Casey. And I don't know, I'm just really, really excited about what we can do and we hope that everybody enjoys it and takes a listen.

[Casey O'Brien]

So, yeah, I mean, it was an easy. Hell yes. When we heard the pitch, it was just like, fucking, absolutely. I can't wait to see what you guys do. And yeah, it's great. It's exciting.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It's great. I will definitely miss I saw what you did. Because as a film historian and a great writer, Millie, you just would kind of present these. The mov that you and Danielle would talk through. And it would be like, Danielle would just be kind of the person who's like, oh, I just saw this for the first time. And then you would be. You would present kind of the other side of like, well, here are all the things I know about this and it's so deeply interesting to me because you are so good at that and you have been doing it for so long. But listening to the two of you guys talk and it's much more kind of like up to date conversational recommendations. What's going on? It's day and date. It's almost like a little. It's like your movie newsletter as opposed to your movie thesis, which both so valid, but you guys as a combination is just like so charming and easy to listen to as a podcast. So great.

[Unknown]

Thank you. Oh, one thing I want to pitch is. Or a plug, I should say is the Softies. The band, the Softies, they do the theme song to our show and they're one of my favorite bands and we're an inspiration to kind of the vibe of the podcast, it was like such a thrill to have them do the theme song. So. So if I'm plugging anything, they have a new album, the bed I made, you can listen to that. But they did that. I love it.

[Casey O'Brien]

I love them. That's exciting.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah, it's a perfect. Their theme song is so perfect and lovely.

[Unknown]

Yeah, I know. It's so cute.

[Georgia Hardstark]

You guys, congratulations. We love your show. We can't wait for everyone else to hear it.

[Casey O'Brien]

It's so great. Dear Movies, I Love youe launches on January 28 and new episodes will air every Tuesday.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Also, don't forget to listen, subscribe and give that show a five star rating. It really deserves it. And also, stay sexy and don't get murdered.

[Casey O'Brien]

Bye. Good night, Elvis. Do you want a cookie?

[Georgia Hardstark]

This has been an exactly right production.

[Casey O'Brien]

Our senior producer is Alejandra Keck.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Our managing producer is Hannah Kyle Crichton.

[Casey O'Brien]

Our editor is Aristotle Acevedo.

[Georgia Hardstark]

This episode was mixed by Liana Squalachi.

[Casey O'Brien]

Our Researchers are Marin McLachen and Allie Elkin.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Email your hometowns to myfavoritemurder@gmail com.

[Casey O'Brien]

Follow the show on Instagram and Facebook at. My favorite murderer. Goodbye.