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Hello and welcome to my favorite murder. That's Georgia Hardstark, that's Karen Kilgariff.
Karen Kilgariff
And this is a solo episode.
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It's a solo episode. Just me. Because we're still on tour as of.
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We're going to New York this week for our last live show.
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That's right. Brooklyn King's Theater. Wrapping it up. Saying goodbye.
Georgia Hardstark
I can't. It's gonna be crazy and so sad that last episode. I'm gonna cry. Maybe I have a book real quick. Can. I've been waiting to. I've just been waiting to tell you about this book. Cause I'm so obsessed with it.
Karen Kilgariff
Great.
Georgia Hardstark
And I listened to it through the tour and I cried. So. It's a memoir called A Mother's Reckoning.
Karen Kilgariff
By Sue Klebold, Dylan Klebold's mother.
Georgia Hardstark
Yes. Wow. It is the most powerful, intense, beautiful memoir I've ever listened to. It is so powerful. She talks about grief and shame, loss and a lot about mental illness and how we treat it here in the US and what can be done to change things and, you know, what she knew and what she didn't know and what she wishes she had known. I was just in awe of this book.
Karen Kilgariff
Wow.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah. So A Mother's Reckoning. I feel like every parent of a teenager needs to read this because it's also about hiding being a teenager and hiding stuff from your parents. And I think knowing those signs and knowing and being able to recognize the little tells that they do give is so important for parents. And she really hits on that and takes responsibility for not knowing what to look for. Cause you don't know what you don't know.
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah. And as a parent, that's the weight that I'm sure is on her. It's just horrible, that idea of having to take responsibility for thing that, you know, if you're the mother, you're gonna get blamed first anyway.
Georgia Hardstark
Absolutely. And it was like the 90s, so it was just toxic. Toxic. And she talks about all of that. So. A Mother's Reckoning by Sue Klebold. I highly recommend it. Okay. Should we do a quick Exactly Right media check in?
Karen Kilgariff
Let's do it.
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Goodbye. All right, Solo.
Karen Kilgariff
All right, Solo.
Georgia Hardstark
Okay, this is a real one. And it was suggested by a Murderino who emailed in April of 2023. Just gonna read you a little bit of it. It says hi. When I was about nine years old, I was being nosy, digging through random stuff at my dad's house and found a scrapbook full of old newspaper. I asked dad about it and he proceeded to blow my tiny little mind by dropping the bomb that his uncle murdered a bunch of people in the 1940s and was executed by electric chair. It goes on and on. I have photos of the chair where he was executed and his death mask that are kept at a state museum and would be happy to email them in.
Karen Kilgariff
That's okay, we're good.
Georgia Hardstark
Thanks for getting me through my commute to work every day, Abby. So Abby suggested this and I'd never heard of it.
Karen Kilgariff
Wow, family murderer. That's crazy.
Georgia Hardstark
It's disappointing when you haven't heard of a serial killer. Cause it just means there's so fucking many of them.
Karen Kilgariff
There's so many.
Georgia Hardstark
This is a story of highway killer James Wayburn Hall. The main source for the story is a book called the Arkansas Hitchhike Killer by Janie Nesbit Jones. And the rest of the sources can be found in the show notes. Okay, so on January 17, 1945, the body of a man named C.F. hamilton is found on a road in Arkansas. Hamilton is a barber and also a bootlegger. Though prohibition has long been over and there are plenty of liquor stores. As we know, bootleggers still do good business in the area.
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah, you know, get it driving around real fast in those souped up cars. That's right, that homemade liquor and homemade NASCAR. That's how NASCAR began.
Georgia Hardstark
Oh yeah. So CF Hamilton has been shot with a.45 caliber bullet and the scene looks like a robbery. Hamilton is black and this is Arkansas in 1945. So the police officers basically investigate the crime much. And unfortunately, this also means that we know less about him and his life than we know about some of the other victims who are discovered shortly after.
Karen Kilgariff
Who are white.
Georgia Hardstark
Who are white.
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah.
Georgia Hardstark
About two weeks later, on February 1st, another body is found. A deputy sheriff is driving along a Road about 80 miles south of Little Rock when he sees an abandoned car at the turnoff for a dirt road. And it's still there. And he makes his return trip about 90 minutes later. So he pulls over to inspect the car. The glove compartment looks like it's been rifled through and the papers are strewn on the passenger seat. The deputy sheriff then looks at the dirt road and sees two sets of footprints going into the woods and only one set returning.
Karen Kilgariff
Wow.
Georgia Hardstark
He follows the footprints and after a short walk, finds the body of a man who has been shot. This man is identified by police as E.C. adams. He has been shot with a.38 caliber bullet. Adams had been on his way to a new job and a new home at a Navel plant where his wife and newborn daughter were supposed to join him. Later, after speaking to his wife, police believe he was killed by a highwayman or a robber who steals from travelers. She gives him a long list of the items he had with him, including razors, a shaving mug, a watch, and two alarm clocks, because he was moving. And these items are all missing from the car. When they inspect it. Captain Earl Scrogan.
Karen Kilgariff
I am Delft. Woman.
Georgia Hardstark
It's spelled like you can't help it.
Karen Kilgariff
Just say it. No.
Georgia Hardstark
Captain Earl Scrogan of the newly formed Arkansas State Police believes the same highwayman, probably hitchhiking, may have killed both Adams and Hamilton, even though they were shot with different guns. They backtrack Adams route to Little Rock, where they believe he picked up the hitchhiker. And they alert Little Rock police. About a week later, on February 9, a meat truck driver named Doyle Mulherin leaves on his typical route, but doesn't make it to any of his stops. And it's very out of character of him, so people begin searching for him immediately. And a grocer who's also the mayor of the town of Stuttgart, Arkansas, finds his truck at the edge of town. Were you gonna say something?
Karen Kilgariff
Just that the grocer would know that the meat guy didn't show up.
Georgia Hardstark
Totally.
Karen Kilgariff
And be like, that's very not like him. And what's happening, like, the first person.
Georgia Hardstark
Little Rock's a tiny town now that back then 45, it was probably just like everyone knew everyone.
Karen Kilgariff
Right. And this is outside of Little Rock. Right. So that was probably the big town.
Georgia Hardstark
Totally.
Karen Kilgariff
I mean, yeah. God, that's sad.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah. The next day, two fishermen find Doyle's body about 25ft away from the highway. The state police determine that he has also been shot with a.38 caliber bullet. And the money from all of his collections that day is missing. While retracing his steps, the state police speak to another driver whose route. Route? Route is the reverse of Doyle's. What do you say? Route or route?
Karen Kilgariff
I think. Well, it's like Route 66 in the song. But then if I was reading it, I think I'd say route.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah, same. The two men usually wave when they pass each other in their trucks. But this driver says that on the day Doyle died, he didn't wave at him and seemed distracted, that he had a passenger with him. The passenger was a young man with wavy red hair. Can you imagine the state you're in? You're driving past, you're trying to signal to the guy that you always wave to that you know that something is wrong. So you don't wave.
Karen Kilgariff
Like it's the absence of the normal thing that's gonna hopefully let that guy know totally.
Georgia Hardstark
And, like, make him pay more attention so he can give information.
Karen Kilgariff
It's so upsetting. And also just that idea of, like, was there a gun in his ribs? I mean, like, this threat of. Yeah. There's so many of those stories that we've heard over the years of, like, a girl in a car with someone trying to get the cops attention or whatever.
Georgia Hardstark
That's why I love this. That there's the hand gesture that you can do now that we all know and all should know, where you just kind of hold up four fingers with your thumb on the inside of your palm.
Karen Kilgariff
I'm in danger.
Georgia Hardstark
I'm in danger.
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah.
Georgia Hardstark
Amazing. In early March, A man named J.D. newcomb Jr. Is reported missing. He's the state's chief boiler inspector for the Department of Labor. I know. I don't. I don't even.
Karen Kilgariff
I mean, boilers are a big deal back then.
Georgia Hardstark
They needed to be inspected a lot.
Karen Kilgariff
And they needed people to be at certain levels of boiler inspection.
Georgia Hardstark
Sure.
Karen Kilgariff
Because you had to be able to come and be like, this one is.
Georgia Hardstark
About to blow up. I can tell something's wrong with it.
Karen Kilgariff
So he was the chief.
Georgia Hardstark
He was the guy. And it was a prominent position, he says. So Newcomb had been on his way back to Little Rock when he disappeared, and he was known to offer rides to hitchhikers. So fucking ominous. Right? Because, like, we always think of, like, hitchhiking as being so dangerous.
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah. But this is like the mid-40s, so it's like. I bet you it's like after the Depression, people being used to. People just, hey, look, I'm just trying to get from one place to the other.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah.
Karen Kilgariff
I mean, like, doing a favor for your fellow man. Probably the thinking.
Georgia Hardstark
Totally. Totally. On March 8, a badly burned body is found in the back of a burned Oldsmobile, which matches Newcomb's car. The car is found in a clearing, and from the way the blood has sprayed backward, it looks like it was driven quickly before. Dental records determine that the body is Newcomb's. And police find that his wristwatch is missing, as is his blue gray overcoat. The police ask the public for tips. A bus driver reports picking up a young man near where the car was found. And the driver says that the man was wearing an ill fitting blue gray coat. The driver can't remember where the man got off, but that his bus was headed to Little Rock. On March 16, a woman calls the state police and tells them a man she knows had loaned his car back in February to a friend who had business with a bootlegger outside of Little Rock. The car's owner kept a.45 caliber pistol in the car and when the car was returned, two rounds were missing from it. Remember, the guy in the beginning of the story was a bootlegger. The man who owned the car had heard about the murder of C.J. hamilton. The black man, who was a barber and fearful that he would be implicated, sold the gun. Oh, didn't call it in. Sold it. So this woman calls it in, thankfully.
Karen Kilgariff
And is like, hey, hey, missing piece here.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah, I don't want this guy to get away with it. The woman says that the person who borrowed the car is a cab driver named James Wayburn Hall. The state police bring this information to the Little Rock police who take James in for questioning. James has wavy red hair like the person that was spotted in the truck. When police search James wallet, they find a receipt from a parcel service. And the parcel service had delivered a package to Little Rock from Camden, Arkansas, near where Adams, the man with the new Navy job, had been found. Police go to the address from the parcel receipt, which belongs to a woman named Corrine Franklin. Franklin admits that she's a friend of James and she produces the contents of that parcel that had been sent. Razors, a shaving mug and an alarm clock. So it looks like James had mailed himself through this woman, stolen items from Adam's car.
Karen Kilgariff
So basically making federal witnesses out of the postal service, Right? Basically.
Georgia Hardstark
And this woman who's name and address are on it.
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah, they were just like, here's my things.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah.
Karen Kilgariff
And the government's now involved because it's Posto.
Georgia Hardstark
Yes. Oh my God. Surprise, surprise.
Karen Kilgariff
Federal fucking poor man's trademark. You just trademarked your murder cash, Basically.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah. You just proved that it was yours.
Karen Kilgariff
Kinda put your name on it. Yeah, I took these. Don't give them to anybody else. Just one alarm clock. Not both.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah, I don't know what he liked to sell items.
Karen Kilgariff
Oh, yeah, right. I thought he kept two. Cause whoever originally had them, like needed two to wake up. Oh, you know, remember before you could snooze your alarm.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah. You'd have to put one in the hallway. Cause otherwise you would not get up.
Karen Kilgariff
Drunks.
Georgia Hardstark
Remember when those alarm clocks came out that jumped off. They had wheels and they'd jump off your dresser and like roll around the house. You'd like chase it to wake up.
Karen Kilgariff
You couldn't sneeze, snooze it.
Georgia Hardstark
So you couldn't snooze it and you had to chase it to. To turn it off.
Karen Kilgariff
We need the commercial for that.
Georgia Hardstark
Brilliant. Right? And there was one that was like a Boggle machine, like a puzzle that you had to put back together to.
Karen Kilgariff
Be able to snooze it.
Georgia Hardstark
Yes.
Karen Kilgariff
Incredible. There was a real oversleeping problem in the 80s 90s, it sounds like.
Georgia Hardstark
Yes. So police also searched James room at a boarding house where he's been living for the last few months. Oh, man. Boarding houses just like give me the creeps.
Karen Kilgariff
It's, you know, a lot of back then, especially transient, you know. Hey, do you not want anyone to know your name? Is your last name sm?
Georgia Hardstark
Did you just get off a boxcar?
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah.
Georgia Hardstark
Come here.
Karen Kilgariff
What's that blood on your neck? A small fine mist of blood on your cheek.
Georgia Hardstark
And at this place, they find J.D. newcomb's missing watch and a blue gray overcoat that matches the description of the one he had been missing. They also find a box of.38 caliber bullets and a.38 caliber pistol. It turns out that the Little Rock police had just arrested James a few weeks prior for assault when he badly injured another man in a fight. And they also tell their colleagues at the Arkansas State Police that they had questioned James six months earlier about the disappearance of his own wife. When the police go back to James with the evidence from the package and from his room in the boarding house, he says, quote, okay, I'll tell you all about it. I killed them all.
Karen Kilgariff
Oh, my God.
Georgia Hardstark
Straight up Jinx style.
Karen Kilgariff
I killed them all.
Georgia Hardstark
I killed them all.
Karen Kilgariff
If you were the cop he was talking to or whoever it was that's feeling in your stomach, we're doing. What do you mean all? All.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah. Also, he's 24 years old at this time.
Karen Kilgariff
Oof.
Georgia Hardstark
That's like a child.
Karen Kilgariff
A child with probably like kind of evil eyes. I mean.
Georgia Hardstark
Well, okay, let me tell you about him. James Wayburn hall is born in 1921 in Happy Valley, Arkansas. He's the fourth of 11 children, though one dies in infancy and from childhood on. James is nicknamed Red because of his red hair.
Karen Kilgariff
You know, every man in my Dad's family's nickname. They all call each other that.
Georgia Hardstark
I always forget your dad has red hair because I've never seen him with red hair.
Karen Kilgariff
Not since the late 80s. Yeah.
Georgia Hardstark
So. His father, Samuel hall, is a farmer and also a preacher in the local church. And as we've heard time and time again, James childhood contains two of the common threads we wind up seeing in the childhood of serial killers. Abuse and head trauma. From the outside, the halls appear to have a pretty idyllic life. The children are looked after by a caring grandmother. James, his siblings and his cousins roam the outdoors together most days. But behind closed doors, James father Samuel is abusive, and he focuses most of his anger on James. In his early teens, James starts leaving the home for long intervals, finding work on farms. When he's 14 years old, he's hit in the head with a metal fence post. Although the story is that he ran into it or it fell on him, we're not sure. It knocked him unconscious for about an hour. And some people who know James say that he was never himself again after this. Although some people also say the fence post story is completely made up and that it was actually James father who gave him the head trauma.
Karen Kilgariff
Oh, my God.
Georgia Hardstark
I know. So around that same time, James drops out of school and starts riding the rails to Oklahoma and Kansas doing farm work. He was 6 foot 5, so he was a very large man. He had wavy red hair, and he also had a limp that made him very recognizable, and people called him Big Jim.
Karen Kilgariff
Just the idea of, like, it's one thing to get a head injury, you know, by chance, have your father give you a head injury that changes your life forever totally is like, you know, we love to talk about trauma, but that's next level. It's so horrible.
Georgia Hardstark
James meets his first wife in 1938, a woman named Walsey McKee. James is 17 and Walsie is two to five years older, according to different accounts. Seventeen. They get married, doesn't last long, and he flows in and out of town. She doesn't see him often. They have two children, but the first dies shortly after being born. The second is a healthy boy born in 1943, but James and Walsi divorce shortly after he's born. James is then drafted into the army, but after six weeks of basic training, he's given a dishonorable discharge for, quote, indifference.
Karen Kilgariff
Oh, no.
Georgia Hardstark
Yikes.
Karen Kilgariff
Dead eyes. That's very Full Metal Jacket vibes.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah. I think within six weeks, getting discharged for that means they were like, we can't.
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah, we missed this Guy in the mental health evaluation. Something's going on, right? Yeah.
Georgia Hardstark
So that same year, James winds up in Little Rock, where he meets his second wife. Listen to this name. Faerien Clemens.
Karen Kilgariff
Faerien.
Georgia Hardstark
Faerien.
Karen Kilgariff
Alabama, you say?
Georgia Hardstark
Arkansas.
Karen Kilgariff
Arkansas.
Georgia Hardstark
Hey, Thyrene. Hey, Thayrene. Thyrone.
Karen Kilgariff
Come on over here.
Georgia Hardstark
Come here. Let me do your hair, my dear roots. She goes by Fay, and they meet in December of 1943. He's 22 years old, and by March of 1944, they're married. And Faye is very different from Walsey, his first wife. When James gets the urge to travel, she wants to come with him. He doesn't want her to.
Karen Kilgariff
Cause it's true love, right?
Georgia Hardstark
So by the summer of 1944, just a few months after their marriage, Faye confides in her family that she doesn't think she can stay married to James. And the family thinks that he's being abusive towards her. On Thursday, September 14, James is back in Little Rock after another period on the road, and he takes Faye and a friend of hers dancing at a club called the Rainbow Garden. They leave the club at about midnight, at which point the friend says he and Faye began fighting. As James, Faye and the friend walk to the car. Faye tells James that she wants to leave him and move to California. He slaps her across the face, and they all get in the car. And when they drop the friend off at her house, Faye and James are still fighting. And that is the last time anyone besides James sees Faye alive.
Karen Kilgariff
Oh, that friend.
Georgia Hardstark
I know.
Karen Kilgariff
So sad.
Georgia Hardstark
I know when your friend is dating someone or married to someone that you.
Karen Kilgariff
Know is fucking terrible, and you're like, she's about to get beaten up and I'm getting out of the car. What do I do?
Georgia Hardstark
What would you do?
Karen Kilgariff
Go get a guy that's six foot six. I mean, that's the problem with someone big and abusive. Those kinds of bullies are hard to fight if you don't have anybody around to fight them.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah, they don't listen to reason or women. Or women. Reason meaning women. Three days later, some of Faye's cousins come by to see her. James tells them that she left him three days before. The cousins tell Faye's parents about this, and they come to look for her. Of course, Faye's clothes are all in the closet. It doesn't look like she's gone anywhere. But they give it some time, hoping that maybe Faye. She said she wanted to go to California. Her friend heard that maybe she just fucking booked it. And they're about to hear from her. But when a week goes by, they go to the Little Rock police. James tells the police that he last saw his wife on the night they came back from the Rainbow Garden and that she left for California, blah, blah, blah. So shortly after that, James moves out of the apartment he and Faye had shared and goes out on the road again. We don't know James exact route between September and December of 1944. We do know of several of middle aged men in this time period in Kansas and Oklahoma that some people will later tie to James similar mos. In the next few months, James stays closer to Little Rock and commits the four murders. From the beginning of our story that will eventually lead to his arrest. And that brings us to where we started in the story and him saying, yes, I killed them all.
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah.
Georgia Hardstark
When he finally confesses to those murders, he tells police that the first murder was only supposed to be a robbery. He says that he had intended on stealing the whiskey from Hamilton and that James ended up shooting him with that.45 caliber pistol and then using Hamilton's gun, which he stole from the car, to commit the rest of the murders. When the police ask James where Faye's body is, James says he took her to a remote road along a riverbank and beat her to death.
Karen Kilgariff
Oh, my God.
Georgia Hardstark
I know. James brings the police and several press photographers to the site, but they can't find anything. Then a woodcutter named Cecil Foster, who lives nearby walks over. Cecil tells the police that he found part of a skull a few weeks back and that he thought it washed down the river and he took it home. He says he also saw what he thought was part of a jawbone on the riverbank. Cecil looks in the spot and it's like, see, it's still there. James himself, who's there to show them where her remains are, says, quote, that's Fay, all right, and points out the characteristic front tooth in the jawbone. So sinister.
Karen Kilgariff
It's so gross. And also this idea that they. And maybe it wasn't him particularly, but that idea of like, I'm gonna get the press to come too.
Georgia Hardstark
Right.
Karen Kilgariff
It just is. All those ways that I think back then, nobody knew. You're feeding right into the psychopath plane and the ego.
Georgia Hardstark
Let's let him control this.
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah. Ugh. It's so awful.
Georgia Hardstark
James ultimately confesses to killing Faye and the four other men and to multiple other murders. When he was 17, in 1938, he killed a woman in Salinas, Kansas. He kills a man in San Marcos, Texas, in 1944. And then he admits to killing 10 migrant workers from 1938 to 1944 in Arizona. And then he'd offer up some clues and decline to talk about them. He also says he killed a bible salesman in Texas. Because of his itinerant lifestyle, he's suspected of several more murders. There are at least three similar murders in cities where he was likely to have been. But there isn't enough evidence to charge him still.
Karen Kilgariff
This is so honest. Tool.
Georgia Hardstark
Yes, like, but real.
Karen Kilgariff
But real. But then also can they prove it's real?
Georgia Hardstark
It sounds like he's not making this shit up. Yeah, you know, I mean like it all fits. The MO Adestool's shit was all like. Right.
Karen Kilgariff
All of this anywhere they brought him, he was like, yes, he.
Georgia Hardstark
Right.
Karen Kilgariff
But God, it's just so. I know, it's so evil. It's so scary.
Georgia Hardstark
And he's 24.
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah. Like with red hair. And it's like, hey, can you give me a ride?
Georgia Hardstark
I'm a friendly guy. Can you give me a ride? I have a limp.
Karen Kilgariff
Fun times. Oh, Bible salesman. I love Bibles.
Georgia Hardstark
And 24, which imagine like what would if he hadn't been caught right then, that woman hadn't called and said this gun that my friend had, I think it's the murder weapon. If she hadn't called in, what would he have like ramped up to when he was like 30 and 35, you.
Karen Kilgariff
Know, I mean, maybe he would have gotten the car and then been like, it'll be faster if I'm picking people up.
Georgia Hardstark
Right.
Karen Kilgariff
Like that. I mean, who knows?
Georgia Hardstark
True crime James is arraigned in the spring of 1945. He's charged with first degree murder only for the killing of Faye, his wife. Because this is thought to be the strongest case against him and it's a possibility that he'll get the death penalty in this case. So they want to try this one first. James trial begins on the same day Germany surrenders and World War II ends in Europe. And because of that, the case didn't get as much national attention. But still there are murderinos back then. The courthouse is packed to the gills for the two day trial. Two days, that's it?
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah.
Georgia Hardstark
On the first day of the trial, James takes back his confessions and instead pleads not guilty by reason of insanity, blah, blah blah. James first wife Walsey testifies at the trial and brings their two year old son James, entire relationship with Faye, her murder and at least four others. But likely many more have all taken place within less than two years.
Karen Kilgariff
Oh my God.
Georgia Hardstark
That was all two years. James is found guilty and sentenced to death. He was executed a few days before his 25th birthday in the electric chair on January 4, 1946. Fay's father attends the execution and says, quote, may God have mercy on your soul. I can't. End quote. And that is the story of the hitchhike killer, James Wayburn Hall.
Karen Kilgariff
Literally. I've never heard anything about this.
Georgia Hardstark
I know. Thank you to Abby for sending this in. She says that he was her grandmother's older brother.
Karen Kilgariff
Mm.
Georgia Hardstark
I know.
Karen Kilgariff
Wow. Oh, yeah. Cause there's 10 kids or by the time, nine kids.
Georgia Hardstark
Yep.
Karen Kilgariff
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Karen Kilgariff
A tour. Hooray.
Georgia Hardstark
A tour. Hooray.
Karen Kilgariff
Okay. Do you have one in mind?
Georgia Hardstark
No. Go.
Karen Kilgariff
Well, I mean, the experience of this tour has been so incredible, and the Murderinos have just shown up in every way possible, every way we've asked them to.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah.
Karen Kilgariff
So my Hooray, I think, would just be all of our listeners, all the people that have, like, actually gone to the shows, told their stories. We've had some incredible hometowns. Just incredible, like, participation. Yeah, it's been so cool to, like, be able to be out there with people.
Georgia Hardstark
And how about when you kick that stuffed animal back into the audience, though.
Karen Kilgariff
You guys, we had a gift of a very large, very scary sized stuffed animal thrown at us onto the stage from the dark, and it scared everybody, especially me and Georgia. So I then kicked it back out into the audience and the audience went insane. That was a pretty good one.
Georgia Hardstark
That was good.
Karen Kilgariff
What about. I think there's also the very first night of Denver night. One night. Show one.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah.
Karen Kilgariff
I don't think I expected the volume and the reception.
Georgia Hardstark
No.
Karen Kilgariff
Getting a reception like that was such a lovely gift from that Denver audience.
Georgia Hardstark
Totally nothing. Like I had completely forgotten what that felt like, what it sounded like, how incredible and overwhelming it was. And I'm going to miss that after.
Karen Kilgariff
New York because it's very magical to be able to get something like that from a room full of people.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah. It's life affirming. You forget that people are listening when you're recording in a studio, and then to walk out there and be like, there you are.
Karen Kilgariff
These are all the people that are not emailing in complaints in some way, shape or form. They like it.
Georgia Hardstark
They like it. They want you to have stuffed animals.
Karen Kilgariff
And we say, no, no, thank you. No, thank you.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah. Thank you for everyone who's come. Thank you for all the incredible gifts you've given us. I think we're gonna go through them in a video for the fan cult soon.
Karen Kilgariff
Oh, yeah, we're gonna go through. We're gonna unbox our boxes of gifts that we basically get to go through, like raccoons real fast and then have to box up and ship home.
Georgia Hardstark
I can't wait.
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah, it's gonna be really good. That was a great story. This is a great solo. Thank you for your patience as we are on wrapping this tour up, which has been an incredible amount of work for our team on the podcast team. So thank you to the MFM production team led by C. Molly Smith, the great producer, and everybody else.
Georgia Hardstark
It made it possible for us to, like, leave and not worry about what's going up. She was on it.
Karen Kilgariff
And our supervising producer, Jess Keck, who worked with Molly, and they basically made the grids that made it all possible. Thanks to everybody for making all of these things that we're able to do simultaneously. It's only because we have this incredible story.
Georgia Hardstark
Totally. Yeah. Thanks, guys.
Karen Kilgariff
Thanks, guys. Well, stay sexy and don't get murdered.
Georgia Hardstark
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Karen Kilgariff
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Georgia Hardstark
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Date: November 20, 2025
Hosts: Karen Kilgariff & Georgia Hardstark
This solo episode, led primarily by Georgia Hardstark with commentary from Karen Kilgariff, dives into the chilling case of James Wayburn Hall—an Arkansas serial killer from the 1940s. Inspired by a Murderino's submitted family story, Georgia traces the life, crimes, and conviction of Hall, unpacking a forgotten piece of American true crime history. The episode also features moments of reflection on the hosts' recent tour and shoutouts to the Murderino community.
[02:02-04:54]
“She talks about grief and shame, loss and a lot about mental illness and how we treat it here in the US and what can be done to change things…” – Georgia (03:07)
[04:01-05:50]
[07:20-07:59]
“He proceeded to blow my tiny little mind by dropping the bomb that his uncle murdered a bunch of people in the 1940s and was executed by electric chair.” – Georgia (07:23)
[08:13-09:44]
“Hamilton is black and this is Arkansas in 1945. So the police officers basically investigate the crime much.” – Georgia (08:51)
[09:45-12:38]
“The passenger was a young man with wavy red hair.” – Georgia (12:23).
“It’s the absence of the normal thing that's gonna hopefully let that guy know, totally.” – Karen (12:29)
[13:03-15:10]
[15:13-17:14]
“Okay, I'll tell you all about it. I killed them all.” – Georgia (18:17) “If you were the cop he was talking to...what do you mean all? All.” – Karen (18:22)
[18:33-21:26]
“Behind closed doors, James’s father Samuel is abusive, and he focuses most of his anger on James.” – Georgia (19:01)
[21:31-24:23]
“James himself ... says, 'That's Fay, all right,' and points out the characteristic front tooth in the jawbone. So sinister.” – Georgia (25:24)
[25:59-27:26]
“He also says he killed a bible salesman in Texas. Because of his itinerant lifestyle, he's suspected of several more murders.” – Georgia (26:29)
[27:35-28:53]
“He was executed a few days before his 25th birthday in the electric chair on January 4, 1946. Fay's father attends the execution and says, 'May God have mercy on your soul. I can't.'” – Georgia (28:47)
On crime and investigation:
“It’s disappointing when you haven't heard of a serial killer. Cause it just means there's so fucking many of them.” – Georgia (08:09)
On 1940s social context:
“It's Arkansas in 1945. So the police officers basically investigate the crime much. And unfortunately, this also means that we know less about him and his life than we know about some of the other victims who are discovered shortly after.” – Georgia (08:51)
On warning signals between drivers:
“It's the absence of the normal thing that's gonna hopefully let that guy know, totally.” – Karen (12:29)
On Hall’s confession:
“Okay, I'll tell you all about it. I killed them all.” – Georgia, quoting Hall (18:17)
On tour experiences:
“Getting a reception like that [in Denver] was such a lovely gift from that audience.” – Karen (31:19)
[30:22-32:38]
“Stay Sexy and Don’t Get Murdered.” – Karen (33:01)
The conversation balances MFM’s signature blend of true crime detail with irreverence, warmth, and care for the victims. Karen and Georgia’s banter—darkly comedic, compassionate, and deeply human—lends weight and texture to this lesser-known but sobering story from American history.