MFM Minisode 410

Summary

My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark Episode: Processing... Release Date: November 19, 2024

Hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, "My Favorite Murder" blends true crime storytelling with dark comedy. In the "Processing..." episode, the hosts delve into a series of listener-submitted hometown stories, each unraveling unique and often harrowing experiences.

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1. Hometown Story: The Hitchhiker Encounter

Speaker: Georgia Hardstark
Timestamp: [02:09]

Georgia shares a chilling personal anecdote from her youth. At 16, while commuting from Forks to Port Angeles, she offers a ride to a fellow student named Israel. Despite appearing harmless, Israel warns Georgia against picking up hitchhikers, a caution she initially dismisses with laughter. Years later, Georgia discovers that Israel Keys, the man she picked up, was arrested for murder. Reflecting on the encounter, Georgia remarks:

"He wasn’t hitchhiking. It terrifies me to know how close I could have been to a very bad situation." [04:03]

Karen empathizes, emphasizing the precariousness of the situation:

"You weren’t close. You were in a very bad situation. He chose not to do anything in it." [04:00]

2. Family Tales: Childhood Memories in Australia

Speaker: Karen Kilgariff
Timestamp: [05:46]

Karen recounts a nostalgic yet unsettling story from her childhood in Australia. At around 13 or 14, during a family trip to the Gold Coast, she and her brother get into a noisy altercation in their hotel room. Their parents return to address the disturbance, leading to a confrontation fraught with fear and discipline. Karen reflects:

"I felt my heart fall out of my arsenal. I apologized quickly." [05:07]

She adds humorously:

"My grandpa was like, 'I was scared. Like you were the thing to be scared of.'" [12:30]

The story underscores the blend of fear and familial bonds, highlighting how unexpected events can leave lasting impressions.

3. Grandpa’s Run-In with the Hell's Angels

Speaker: Georgia Hardstark
Timestamp: [11:23]

Georgia narrates a memorable incident involving her grandfather, Gene, from East County, San Diego. While driving home in his minivan, Grandpa inadvertently cuts off a motorcyclist, presumed to be a member of the infamous Hell's Angels. The situation escalates when the motorcyclist approaches, prompting Grandpa to panic and speed away, inadvertently running over the motorcycle. Georgia humorously criticizes her grandfather's overreaction:

"He drove at him. First you cut him off, then you drove at him, then you ran over his fucking motorcycle." [14:12]

Despite the chaos, Grandpa's actions lead to a mix of fear and laughter within the family, illustrating his quirky and over-the-top personality.

4. Listener Story: Rochester’s Garbage Plate

Speaker: Listener Edwina
Timestamp: [05:50]

A heartfelt submission from Edwina in Sydney details her family's annual trip to the Gold Coast and the unique culinary tradition of the "Garbage Plate." Originally created by Greek immigrant Alexander Tahou, the dish combines hot dogs or hamburgers with pasta or potato salad and fries, often topped with chili. Edwina fondly describes:

"It is the greatest hangover food ever invented and everyone should try it." [15:54]

Karen and Georgia express their appreciation for the story, with Georgia humorously admitting:

"I've never heard of it so I fucking appreciate it." [16:00]

5. Listener Story: Chloe’s Mardi Gras Mishap

Speaker: Listener Chloe
Timestamp: [18:58]

Chloe shares a cautionary tale from Mardi Gras in St. Louis, where she and her friends encounter a severely intoxicated young woman named Chloe. Struggling to help her, they face resistance from male police officers until a female officer intervenes, ensuring Chloe receives medical attention. Chloe emphasizes the importance of female solidarity:

"Stay sexy and fall in a group of girls who will have your back regardless of the situation." [22:05]

Karen concurs, appreciating the sense of community:

"Thank God women are doing this for each other." [22:12]

6. Listener Story: The Five-Year-Old Bartender

Speaker: Listener Megan
Timestamp: [23:06]

Megan recounts her childhood experience working as a bartender at the age of five. Her father, nicknamed "Sugar," involved her and her sister in managing a local dive bar, where they took orders and interacted with regular patrons. Despite its illegality, Megan cherishes the memories, especially seeing the regulars at her father's funeral years later:

"During his services, I looked around the packed room of guests, and there, sitting in the corner, was the Shimmies crew." [26:15]

Karen reflects on the bittersweet nature of the story:

"That's beautiful." [26:56]

Georgia adds her thoughts on the community aspect:

"They were probably lonely people whose kids had grown up and so Saturday mornings they could just have a fun little hangout and a drink." [26:56]

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Conclusion

Throughout the "Processing..." episode, Karen and Georgia navigate through a tapestry of personal and listener-submitted stories that intertwine humor, fear, and heartfelt reflections. By sharing these diverse hometown tales, the hosts underscore the unpredictable nature of life and the enduring bonds that tie us to our pasts.

Notable Quotes:

• "He wasn’t hitchhiking. It terrifies me to know how close I could have been to a very bad situation." — Georgia [04:03]
• "You weren’t close. You were in a very bad situation. He chose not to do anything in it." — Karen [04:00]
• "Stay sexy and fall in a group of girls who will have your back regardless of the situation." — Chloe [22:05]
• "That's beautiful." — Karen [26:56]

Key Takeaways:

• The Thin Line Between Safety and Danger: Georgia's hitchhiker story highlights how seemingly benign interactions can have unforeseen and alarming consequences.
• Family Dynamics and Childhood Memories: Karen's tales from Australia and Megan's childhood bartending experience reveal how family and early responsibilities shape our memories.
• Community and Solidarity: Chloe's Mardi Gras story emphasizes the importance of looking out for one another, especially within gendered communities.
• Nostalgia and Reflection: The episode balances dark humor with sincere reflections on past experiences, showcasing the hosts' ability to blend true crime with personal storytelling.

For more stories and to engage with the "My Favorite Murder" community, listeners are encouraged to submit their own hometown tales and follow the podcast on social media.

Transcript

[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

Hello and welcome to my favorite murder, the Minisode. We read you your stories.

[Karen Kilgariff]

You love it so much.

[Georgia Hardstark]

We love it and we appreciate it.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Oh, that seemed insincere.

[Georgia Hardstark]

We love it, we love it and we appreciate it. I truly, if I had truly, truly, truly. For real.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Do you want to go first?

[Georgia Hardstark]

I have a great one to go first with because this might end up a classic hometown. It's about picking up a hitchhiker. I'm not going to read you the subject line. Okay, you asked for hitchhiking stories and boy, do I have one. Here we go. And how have you not written this one in before? It's like fucking. It makes you wonder how many people haven't written in their insane hometowns.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I mean, you know, there's a million incredible stories out there just waiting to be sent to my favorite murdermail.com we appreciate it.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I commuted from Forks, Washington to Port Angeles, Washington to attend community college classes. For years, my naive 16 year old self did not have any sense of self preservation. You usually don't at that age. One cold and wet Pacific Northwest winter day, I saw a man roughly my age walking at the junction that branches off towards the road that leads to Nia Bay. N E A H Sounds good. I mean, I thought to myself, oh, poor guy, it's so miserable out there. I'll see where he's going and if he wants a ride. No, dude, he wasn't even fucking hitchhiking.

[Karen Kilgariff]

He was just walking.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Why do I do this? I don't know. I was very young, grand, reckless and apparently foolish. The man did indeed say he'd appreciate a ride to Port Angeles as He had missed the bus. I introduced myself and so did he. He said his name was Israel. We talked. I am very chatty. I found out we had a lot of mutual acquaintances and he worked with my then boyfriend, now husband's friend. We arrived in Port Angeles. I dropped him off, and as he's leaving, he says to me, you really shouldn't pick up hitchhikers. If I wanted to, I could have hurt you. But since I know you, I wanted to warn you, you should never do this again. I laughed. His eyes turned black and a cold chill went down me. I linked eyes with him and said, okay, I won't. Years later, when the news broke about Israel Keys, my husband said, hey, you know that guy that worked with my friend in Nia Bay that you said you picked up hitchhiking years ago? He was arrested for murder. So it was corroborated. It wasn't like I saw him on T. I was like, that's definitely the guy. It was fucking definitely him.

[Karen Kilgariff]

It was him. Oh my God.

[Georgia Hardstark]

She says. My stomach dropped. I heeded the advice and never picked up another hitchhiker in my life. He wasn't hitchhiking. It terrifies me to know how close I could have been to a very bad situation.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah, you weren't close. You were in a very bad situation. He chose not to do anything in it.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Totally by the grace of fucking dog. Thank you for educating us naive people to the dangers of the world so we can ssdgm. Your podcast has seen me through some rough times and I appreciate your candor and comedy. Keep fighting the good fight, Elle. I mean, Elle, epic.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Sorry we're being mean to you, but God damn, that's scary.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I mean, you're 16. You just make the worst decisions and you just by the fucking. Some dumb luck you survive it.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Also you just going, he wasn't even hitchhiking. It's like you are going out of your way, right?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh, right. To not ssdgm.

[Karen Kilgariff]

And also that guy. Like, if you haven't listened to the podcast True crime bullshit and you are interested in Israel Keys and kind of the story, that guy has been doing that podcast for a while and it is the deepest dive of all time. Fascinating. Okay, here's mine. It says made up parent story. Hey, Karen and Georgia and everyone on the MFM team, you recently asked for stories about stuff our parents told us or did to us as kids. I think I have a bank. Our story for you. I was 10 or 11 and it was the late 90s in Australia. My family went for Our annual trip before Christmas from Sydney to the sunny Gold coast in Queensland, Australia, and stayed at an upmarket golf resort. My brother and I are born on the same day, three years apart.

[Georgia Hardstark]

That sucks.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Wow.

[Georgia Hardstark]

No one wants to share their fucking.

[Karen Kilgariff]

That's an insane coincidence.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Insane coincidence. It's worse than a Christmas birthday. Like, what the. Yeah, yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

That really sucks. You're just always sharing. I don't know if there's a phrase to refer to this kind of scenario. And then a question mark and then it says, not quite. Twins. Anyway, he was either 13 or 14 at the time. At this stage in our lives, we fought a lot. And then it says, we're very close now. One morning, dad was playing a round of golf and mom was left with us in the room whilst getting ready for the day. She was putting on her makeup and my brother and I were wrestling in the empty bathtub and yelling at each other. Eventually, mom had had enough, so left us in the room to go and get coffee and go for a morning walk. 10 minutes pass and a phone call comes to the room phone, leaving my brother and I to fight over who answered the phone first. I was the unlucky and unwitting victim who picked up the receiver and heard, hello, we've had a complaint about excessive noise coming from your room. I think this was one of the first times in my life where I felt my heart fall out of my arsenal. I apologized quickly. My brother was asking questions and flustered. I hung up the phone. We both began freaking out, thinking our holiday was ruined and that dad and mom would be so pissed at us for the noise complaint. Finally, dad showed up after golf and was upset with us because he said, I've never been kicked out of a hotel before. You two are diabolical. I was in tears. My brother was very subdued, and there was general unease in the room. Cut to mom coming back from her walk and shopping. Of course, a few hours later, brother and I beside ourselves and mom walks in and says, did you enjoy the noise complaint? The original Trolls. How dare they. Long story short, mom caught up with dad on her walk and they came up with a plan to make us shut the fuck up for five minutes. It was a great success, and I will never forget the terror that rose in my body that day. A bonus story is that dad used to make up facts and tell them to me. Don't do that. We do that all the time on this show.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh, wait, yeah, that's true.

[Karen Kilgariff]

He once convinced me that chipolata sausages, which are, I guess, what they call the mini sausages over there were made out of chips. I told everyone at school and they were so confused. Anyway, I write this after a very long day of giving chemotherapy to patients battling cancer. Love, Edwina, the nurse from Sydney. Wow, Edwina, you have the best name.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah, you do.

[Karen Kilgariff]

You have the best name. That was a great story.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Good one.

[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

Here's Grandpa's Hell's Angels mishap. Oh, hello, and welcome to a memory that was so deep in my brain, I forgot it was there. I'm currently listening to episode 450 and Karen was discussing how the Hell's Angels were hired to be security at the Altamont Free concert. Being a native Southern Californian, I'm familiar with the Hell's Angels. I truly don't know why, being born in 1997, but I remember hearing about them as a kid and knowing they were bad news. Yeah, it was like a total, like urban legend. But true.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah, I mean, they were state famous.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah. Fast forward. My dad was sharing stories about his late dad, my grandpa Gene. My grandpa lived in East County, San Diego, where a lot of biker gangs are based and hang out. My grandpa had his license and drove for almost his entire life. In his early 70s, he was driving home in his old ass minivan and accidentally cuts off a motorcyclist. I put accidentally in coats because if he drives anything like my dad, then he's a maniac. And then it says, I can say that because I also drive like my dad. And then there's like a smiley face emoji that's melting from the bottom.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I like that one.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah. So he accidentally cuts him off on the freeway. And as they're getting off the freeway, the motorcycle speeds ahead of him and shakes his Head at him. They get to the same off ramp and are stopped by a red light. The motorcyclist is now in front of my grandpa. The motorcyclist then proceeds to get off his bike and start walking towards my grandpa's car. My grandpa is now shitting his pants. What does he do? All caps, floors it. The motorcyclist jumps out of the way and my grandpa runs over the motorcycle.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Holy no.

[Georgia Hardstark]

He just like turned into the bad guy.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Oh my God.

[Georgia Hardstark]

He then speeds home as fast as he can, runs inside to my grandma Irene and my dad and says, I almost just got murdered by a Hell's Angel. He goes outside to the backyard, to the shed, grabs spray paint and begins to spray paint his van a different, different color. My dad and his mom are now inside the house laughing hysterically. Apparently, my grandpa was known to overreact and this was just another example of it. My dad then went outside to the newly gold painted minivan. It was hunter green before. And proceeded to tell my grandpa that he's overreacting and quote, dad, he was probably just going to come back and tell you to be more careful. Also, I don't even think that any Hell's Angels were in San Diego back then and my grandpa just automatically associated any biker with the group. Yeah, my grandpa passed away about 15 years ago, but he was exactly like my dad, who is goofy, a hard worker, cares about his loved ones and just all around is pretty cool. Stay sexy and maybe brush up on your motorcycle gang patch knowledge.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Autumn, Autumn, who paid for that motorcycle? Was that a hit and run mayhem?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Grandpa was like, I was scared. Like you were the thing to be scared of. He was scared of you. Yeah, you drove at him. First you cut him off, then you drove at him, then you ran over his fucking motorcycle. You're the problem here, dude.

[Karen Kilgariff]

You are. That is totally insane. All right, subject line of this is hot dog hometown.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Cool.

[Karen Kilgariff]

And then in Parentheses it says 2 minute 15 second read. Yes, I timed it. Hello, MFM fam. I'm a longtime listener, multiple email author, and hopefully a first time minisode feature. My Hometown is Rochester, New York. You know her? She's featured in episode 19, Miniso 202 and episode 386.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Wow, you did your research.

[Karen Kilgariff]

In addition to being the home of George Eastman and the Alphabet Killer, Rochester is the birthplace of the garbage plate. The garbage plate was originated by Alexander Tahou, I think T, A, H, O, U. Tahou Tahou, a Greek immigrant who founded the restaurant Nick Tahou's hots in 1918. In its original form, the dish consisted of hots, either standard hot dogs or Rochester style white hots served with potatoes, cold beans and Italian bread with butter. The dish evolved over time to become a modifiable dish of three 1 hot dogs or hamburgers 2. Macaroni salad or potato salad and 3 french fries or fried potatoes. All three elements are piled together on one plate. If you want to take the express track to a heart attack, you can top it off with chili like hot meat sauce. It is the greatest hangover food ever invented and everyone should try it.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh my God.

[Karen Kilgariff]

This is purely just information about. You have to know this about Register.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I've never heard of it so I fucking appreciate it. Like I feel like we're getting an education. A hot dog education.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Please tell us. Do you want to tell us about your hot dog from your hometown?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Send us your hot dogs.

[Karen Kilgariff]

There's just a little bit more. It says thank you for the community you created, for the money you donated, for the voices you amplified. But but the most important thing you both do is tell stories with the victims in mind. Now that true crime has become mainstream and famous killers get multiple shows or are mentioned as a dream dinner guest by out of touch celebrities, it is incredibly important that the victims are remembered. Of all of the true crime podcasts and shows out there, only few focus on the innocent victims, which you two have consistently done. Thanks for all the laughs, inside jokes and my favorite face mask. SS dgm. Christina. She her.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh my God. I did not. I think an email about hot dogs was gonna tear me up a little bit.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Did it get you?

[Georgia Hardstark]

It got me. Thank you. Thank you for saying that.

[Karen Kilgariff]

That was very, very sweet. And Christina, we appreciate your appreciation.

[Georgia Hardstark]

We do. I'm like a little choked up. It means a lot that estrogen is working.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Let's get those tear ducts going.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah, that estrogen patch baby.

[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

Okay, here is Chloe, I need your finger. This is my last one. Hey ladies, I know we're writing in about anything now, so I have a funny cautionary tale from Mardi Gras that I hope at least Alejandra or whoever else is reading these enjoys. My friends and I have a tradition that we meet in St. Louis every year for Mardi Gras. Yes, I know ladies, St. Louis, not New Orleans. But a little info. St. Louis hosts the country's second largest Mardi Gras.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I did not know that.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Who the fuck knew that?

[Karen Kilgariff]

That's cool.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It also tends to be much safer and more family friendly. I digress. One year we were enjoying our day drinking when my friend Taylor and I became separated from the larger group. We decided to sit our butts on the parade route and wait for our friends to return. As we were waiting, a young woman literally falls on us. She's slurring, her eyes are unavailable, and she's definitely more than a little unsteady. Being friendly and also worried about her state, we began questioning her. We found out her name is Chloe, she's under 21 and she's lost, clearly. We try to get her phone open to contact her adult, or at the very least her sober person. When our friends find us, this leads to at least 15 minutes of us repeatedly asking Chloe for her finger to open her iPhone and contact her people. Try getting a drunk person's fucking finger for real.

[Karen Kilgariff]

And for a second I thought you were gonna say her finger to make her throw up so she would not be so drunk.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I, in my also drunken state, realize Chloe is much farther gone than us and might in fact have alcohol poisoning. Picture me drunk, flagging down one group of the ever present cops who also walk the parade route. We explain, this is Chloe. She is lost, but more importantly, she needs medical services rather than get us these. Without question, we get lectured by the cops on letting our friend get so drunk despite having explained that we don't know her. Then they tell us to just leave her. What? Ladies, when I tell you the group of us adult professional women looked at these all male officers like they were the drunk ones. I'm not kidding. My friend Kelly, not her real name, is a prosecuting attorney for the state of Missouri. And she explained in no uncertain terms we would not be leaving this girl alone. Until 1 a female officer showed up, or 2 her friends arrived to claim her. She fell on us rather than any of the thousands of other revelers. So we were responsible. Despite simultaneously being yelled at by the officers to leave her and that we were bad friends for letting her drink so much. We held our ground until both a female EMT and her friend showed up to claim her. I am grateful for Chloe falling on us because that could have gone so much worse for her. To this day, we still yell, chloe, I need your finger when opening someone else's iPhone. Make smart choices, guys. Stay sexy and fall in a group of girls who will have your back regardless of the situation. Cho. She. Her. I mean, we're all Chloe. We've all been Chloe.

[Karen Kilgariff]

We've all been Chloe.

[Georgia Hardstark]

We've all been Chloe. And we've all been Cho.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Thank God for Cho. And thank God women are doing this for each other. Yeah, like more and more now kind of connected in that way.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Because Jesus.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Looking out for each other. I feel like you, like, don't have to mind your own business anymore because we're looking out for each other. Because guess who's gonna do it? Fucking nobody else.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Nobody else.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It's up to you.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Also, but it's kind of funny. Like they're trying to get drunk and party themselves and then suddenly it's like, here's you in four hours, Chloe.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Deal with it. Chloe's like, help me.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Ugh. God damn. Okay, it says, my illegal very first job. Lighthearted question mark. Hey, all you cool cats and kittens. And then in parentheses it says, are we still doing that? My answer, no. I recently listened to Minisode 401 where you read a hometown of a 10 year old who got to be a bartender for a day. I'm normally not a one. Upper and then parentheses. Yes, I am. But I knew I had to write in let's go girls. And then in parentheses it says said like the incomparable Ms. Shania Twain.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh, I heard it.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I mean, how can you not?

[Georgia Hardstark]

It's. Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

So it says, picture this. It's the early 90s. You walk into your local small town Wisconsin dive bar on a Saturday morning. It reeks of stale beer, neon signs line the wall and Saturday morning cartoons play on the tv. Why? Because I'm your bartender every Saturday morning and I am five years old. Let me explain. My parents never had a ton of money growing up, so they often had weekend jobs on top of their regular nine to fives. My mom Bonnie picked up shifts at our local hospital, working the counter that sold candy and other small item in the lobby. So on Saturdays while she did that, she couldn't watch my sister and I. And that left my dad. My dad's name is Mark, but for as long as I can remember, everyone called him Sugar. He was born diabetic and he couldn't have Sugar, so it seems like maybe his friends were just assholes. Who knows? I love that nickname for a man.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I do too.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Anywho, my dad would pick up night and weekend shifts as a bartender around town. And on Saturday mornings, my nine year old sister and I would pack into his blue Chevy and head to our Saturday morning shift at a bar called Shimshacks, AKA Shimmies. When I say our shift, I mean it. My sister and I would take orders, pour beers and handle money while my dad smiled on in pride. And then in parentheses, it says he worked too. Imagine an irritated five year old walking up to you from behind the bar and using a bored tone as they ask, what are you having?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh my God, like dream job for five year old Georgia. Like that sounds fucking incredible.

[Karen Kilgariff]

So fun.

[Georgia Hardstark]

So fun.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I mean, how would you. I guess you'd have to be up on a higher. Yeah, they'd have to build you a little ramp behind the bar.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I'm picturing Cheers, but the casts are all 5 year olds. Like how great would that be, you know?

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yes. Coach kind of was like a five year, right? It says we got to know the regulars, asked them about their week and formed somewhat of a community there. Looking back, I now know this was super illegal, Right? I also realize now that the reason we had so many customers on a Saturday morning is because people were coming just to see if the rumors were true, a 9 and 5 year old were tending bar and they were alcoholics.

[Georgia Hardstark]

But okay.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I mean, all of it combined. Despite how this might sound, I have nothing but fond memories of opening the bar with my sister and dad, knowing what the usual was for the regulars, learning how to pour the perfect draft beer, and fighting with my sister over what TV shows we would have on the old dingy TV above the bar. I usually won and we would watch Dinosaurs.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Aw.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I remember that my dad passed away in April after a very long and complicated health battle. During his services, I looked around the packed room of guests, and there, sitting in the corner, was the Shimmies crew. The ones who got to know us, helped teach us life lessons, and came to visit us every Saturday morning. Shit.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh, my God.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I hadn't seen many of them in over 30 years, but I recognized them immediately. Most of them, well now into their 60s and 70s, would sheepishly walk up to me and start with, you probably don't remember me, but I absolutely did. It would only take a minute before we would be reminiscing about the good old days at the bar and telling ridiculous stories about Sugar in his heyday. Love you both. Proud of you both. Stay sexy and toast one up for Sugar tonight.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Sugar.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Megan.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh, my God.

[Karen Kilgariff]

God damn you, Megan.

[Georgia Hardstark]

That is beautiful.

[Karen Kilgariff]

They came.

[Georgia Hardstark]

They probably, like, were a bunch of lonely. I'm sorry I called them alcoholics. They were probably, like lonely people whose kids had grown up and so Saturday mornings they could just have a fun little hangout and a drink. But also, like, that's.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Well. And also, I think in Wisconsin, bar culture is pretty, like neighborhood bars, right?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Definitely.

[Karen Kilgariff]

It's all. They're into it, so it's kind of like, yeah, they're repping their team. Those are their people.

[Georgia Hardstark]

That's beautiful. What a sweet story. Thank you.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Thank you so much.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Great one to end on. Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

So, so good.

[Georgia Hardstark]

If you want to send us a story and see if you can make Karen cry.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I mean, it's not that hard.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It's not that hard. See if you can make George fucking cry. Then, like, you know, Gmail. What is it? My favorite. Murder at Gmail. Stay sexy and don't get murdered. Goodbye, Elvis. Do you want a cookie?

[Karen Kilgariff]

This has been an exactly right production.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Our senior producer is Alejandra Keck.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Our editor is Aristotle Acevedo.

[Georgia Hardstark]

This episode was mixed by Liana Squalacci.

[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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