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Karen Kilgariff
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My favorite. Hello and welcome to my favorite murder, the minisode.
Georgia Hardstark
This is a special occasion because apparently Grandparents Day is a thing.
Karen Kilgariff
It's Grandparents Day.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah. And it's coming up, so we're gonna just do grandparents stories.
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah, I mean, you have them for us to read, so we're gonna read them. Okay. You wanna go?
Georgia Hardstark
Sure. Okay. This one's called Two stories of the Same murder. Hello, Georgia and Karen, or Karen and Georgia. You are both equal in my eyes.
Karen Kilgariff
Thank you.
Georgia Hardstark
Finally, I have a family story for you that I think you'll very much appreciate. It involves the murder of my great grandfather in, shall we say, suspicious circumstances. Allow me to take you back to a different era and a different place entirely. Okay, picture it. Southern Italy, right after the end of World War I. I've been there at the end of World War I. My great grandfather had just returned home from his discharge from the Italian military. Yes, he fought on the wrong side, but then they were on the right side. I don't know It's a very confusing war.
Karen Kilgariff
Yes, it is. It is.
Georgia Hardstark
My grandmother was around 2 years old, and my great grandmother was pregnant. The island where they lived, and it's Ischia.
Karen Kilgariff
Ischia.
Georgia Hardstark
You've been there?
Karen Kilgariff
Yes.
Georgia Hardstark
Ischia.
Karen Kilgariff
That's where my. When I do my very boring vacation slideshow, which I'm going to do for the fan cult, that's the island I do it from.
Georgia Hardstark
Oh, my God. So you know it's off the coast of Naples. Yes. Amazing. I love it. There was a particularly ornery donkey that was causing some problems for the town folks.
Karen Kilgariff
I saw that donkey. Not really.
Georgia Hardstark
I'm friends with him. My great grandfather decided that he was going to take care of the donkey and went to go shoot it with his rifle. Sorry. Sorry, everyone.
Karen Kilgariff
That's rough.
Georgia Hardstark
The story goes that when my great grandfather was going to shoot the donkey, the donkey kicked the rifle, which went off and accidentally shot my great grandfather. He died from this shot your fucking friend, the donkey.
Karen Kilgariff
Shit.
Georgia Hardstark
That is the story of how my great grandfather died after having survived all through World War I.
Karen Kilgariff
That's horrible.
Georgia Hardstark
Or was it? Oh, a few years ago, I went to visit Ischia with my cousin and found out that he may not have been killed by that donkey.
Karen Kilgariff
Oh.
Georgia Hardstark
Instead, what really happened, or might have, who's to say? Is that my great grandfather had been having an affair with the wife of his captain. And when the captain found out, he went and shot my great grandfather. Oh. We know that he did indeed die from being shot, but I guess we will never know who pulled the trigger. The donkey or.
Karen Kilgariff
Or the captain in the army.
Georgia Hardstark
That sounds a little more likely that.
Karen Kilgariff
Carries his own gun with him at all times.
Georgia Hardstark
My grandmother, despite not having her father and then being given up to her grandparents to raise. And then it says, remember that whole end of world one Italy, rebuilding everyone was poor thing.
Karen Kilgariff
Oh, wow.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah, she turned out to be a pretty awesome and badass lady in her own right. She lived a long, long life and raised a great family. Boy, do I have stories about her. But that's for another time. Thank you two for doing everything that you do and being a highlight of my week. I'm a high school teacher and I will listen to your podcast on my drive to and from work. Stay sexy and don't get shot by a donkey or your captain whose wife you're having an affair with. Love, James from nyc P. S. I know you'll be coming to Brooklyn in November, and my partner and I will absolutely be getting tickets. He owns a pizzeria in Williamsburg and you should totally stop by for a slice or two.
Karen Kilgariff
What's it called?
Georgia Hardstark
You didn't put the name in, you.
Karen Kilgariff
Son of a bitch. James.
Georgia Hardstark
James. How are you gonna know? James will go to every pizzeria in Williamsburg.
Karen Kilgariff
That's how we do it.
Georgia Hardstark
Is James here?
Karen Kilgariff
Hi, we're here. We're friends of James. He said we could get at least one free slice or two. People are like, no.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah, no, James here.
Karen Kilgariff
I love that story. But also, it's funny because if you really think about it, who would shoot a donkey for being ornery?
Georgia Hardstark
Right? That's what, like, they're known for. Yeah. That's what they're famous for.
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah. It can still carry things around for you.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah. It's like killing a cat for being a dick. It's like that's their. That's the primary job. Yep.
Karen Kilgariff
All right, all right. Well, along those kind of same lines. I'm not going to read you the subject line. It says, hi, Karen in Georgia, longtime fan, first time hometown emailer. And I had to write in because yesterday just so happened to mark the 20th anniversary of my grandpa's very own Phineas Gage moment.
Georgia Hardstark
Oh, shit.
Karen Kilgariff
Back in the day, my grandpa ran a construction company with his two brothers. One afternoon on the job, he fell off a ladder and landed directly onto a piece of rebar.
Georgia Hardstark
Oh, no.
Karen Kilgariff
It pierced through the back of his head. Oh, my God. And came out just under his eye. And here's the truly unbelievable part. He was conscious the entire time.
Georgia Hardstark
No, thank you. Just put me under right? Oh, fuck. Okay. Yeah.
Karen Kilgariff
Bite this belt. Drink this rum. Hit me in the head with a mallet.
Georgia Hardstark
Anything happens to me, I'm gonna wake up in the hospital. I don't wanna have the in between.
Karen Kilgariff
Please.
Georgia Hardstark
You know what I mean?
Karen Kilgariff
Yes, for sure.
Georgia Hardstark
Now that we've gotten.
Karen Kilgariff
I'll make sure that happens.
Georgia Hardstark
Thank you.
Karen Kilgariff
I'll be there. I'll be there.
Georgia Hardstark
Whatever it is.
Karen Kilgariff
When my Grandpa's brothers called 91 1, because, yes, my grandpa's brothers had to witness this nightmare, the fire department arrived and immediately clocked this as one of those calls that would stick with them forever. Yes. Of course. They even told us they practiced cutting a different piece of rebar nearby first. Because they knew the wrong move on this and it would cost my grandpa his life. That's like the highest of pressure.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah.
Karen Kilgariff
But the rebar they were practicing on cutting, kept bending, and nothing was working. That's when my grandpa still skewered pipes up and says, I've got a saw on the back of my truck. That'll cut through it. Because of course he did. The firefighters grabbed the saw, had a few guys hold the rebar steady, and one brave soul cut it from underneath his head. Meanwhile, he was annoyed that the sun was in his eyes while lying there in paleo.
Georgia Hardstark
Put a pair of sunglasses on this poor man. Someone, someone has got some Oakleys or some fucking, what do they call them? Blue blockers.
Karen Kilgariff
Nice. Construction worker blue blockers. And then we're moving into the weekend of Bernie's portion of this email. And so meanwhile, he was so annoyed that the sun was in his eyes while l there impaled. So one firefighter's sole job was to stand above him and block the light with a piece of cardboard.
Georgia Hardstark
Wow.
Karen Kilgariff
Priorities. Obviously, they managed to load him onto a stretcher, and while in the ambulance, a priest literally stood over him, giving him his last rice.
Georgia Hardstark
Holy.
Karen Kilgariff
The hospital journey was another roller coaster. We went from updates saying he's brain dead and he has no quality of life to he's paralyzed and he'll never walk again. But today he's very much alive, fully functioning, and until a recent knee issue was out there playing, playing pickleball.
Georgia Hardstark
Oh my God.
Karen Kilgariff
The man was nearly rebar shish kebab to death. But it's the knee that finally took him down.
Georgia Hardstark
That's kind of bullshit.
Karen Kilgariff
For five years, we would visit the fire department on the anniversary of my grandpa's accident and even donated the tool that saved his life. My grandparents have since moved to Arizona as they realized life is too short to live in Minnesota when you hate the winter. That's amazing. They still come back for summers. And this last anniversary was special as we got to spend it with his heroes and caught up with three of the men that were called on the scene all those years ago.
Georgia Hardstark
Oh my God, that's incredible.
Karen Kilgariff
I'll leave you with one of my favorite grandpa memories. Just before his accident, I was eight. He was helping my mom renovate our house and I'd follow him around like his little sidekick. Anytime he'd get hurt, I'd ask, how come you're not crying? And he'd just say, wilbur, didn't you know your grandpa was made of steel? And after what happened, I have no doubt about that being true. Also, shout out to all the first responders and medical professionals. They were the real heroes then and now. It's wild to think that a well placed dermal saw in the back of a truck plus a truly badass team of firefighters is the reason my grandpa is still around. Kicking ass. Stay sexy and stay away from ladders.
Georgia Hardstark
Lily. Oh, my God. Lily. Tough as nails.
Karen Kilgariff
So good.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah. Incredible shish kebab.
Karen Kilgariff
He got rebar through his brain like an inch away.
Georgia Hardstark
And it would have probably killed him.
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah.
Georgia Hardstark
Because it probably, like, went under his brain.
Karen Kilgariff
Could it have gone through and still be fine?
Georgia Hardstark
I don't know how brains work.
Karen Kilgariff
I don't either. Or how rebar works. I like saying rebar. Like, I work with it all the.
Georgia Hardstark
Time, and I'm just like, is it rebarb or rebar?
Karen Kilgariff
It's rebar.
Georgia Hardstark
Okay.
Karen Kilgariff
Like, reinforcement bar in the metal and cement.
Georgia Hardstark
I get it now.
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah.
Georgia Hardstark
Good job.
Karen Kilgariff
Thank you so much.
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Karen Kilgariff
Oh shit.
Georgia Hardstark
She chose cigarettes because she and I quote, could smoke multiple times a day and didn't have the stamina to keep up anymore. Just watch.
Karen Kilgariff
Jesus.
Georgia Hardstark
Grandma is going to swinger parties.
Karen Kilgariff
Grandma, I don't want to hear about your life like this.
Georgia Hardstark
Inger also needed a babysitter to come to the US because she got into too many fights with the TSA agents. Opinionated, not one to mince words and a limited understanding of English made for a challenging trip through security when asked if she packed her bag because you know they'd ask you, did anyone else besides you pack your bag? She said, quote, I'm 80. Why would I pack my bag? Are you stupid? After one too many fights, TSA kindly requested that she be escorted by another family member each time she came to visit.
Karen Kilgariff
So she's showing up like at security at the airport and just fighting with whoever talks to her?
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah, like being contrary for no reason.
Karen Kilgariff
Great.
Georgia Hardstark
Inger passed away just months before our daughter was born. And it grieves me often that they never met Earthside. We hadn't print. I thought they named their daughter Earthside because it's capitalized.
Karen Kilgariff
Beautiful little Earthside.
Georgia Hardstark
Earthside. We hadn't announced our pregnancy when we visited one last time before she passed, literally a day after we left. But she told her daughter that she knew her grandson was going to be a dad soon. When I see my impish kiddo flash a quick smile and tease her grandpa Inger's son, I know she has more than a little of Inger's spirit. And I intend to fan those flames as much as humanly possible.
Karen Kilgariff
Sweet little Earthside Earthside She's a wild one.
Georgia Hardstark
Stay sexy and know which vice your heart can handle in your 80s. Sarah. She her also.
Karen Kilgariff
It's like. And we're gonna raise our child to be just like their great grandmother. Maybe, or I don't know, pick little parts of that. Be careful for Earthside. Well, I was actually looking to switch mine around because this one goes with that one nicely.
Georgia Hardstark
Great.
Karen Kilgariff
I won't read you the subject line. It says. Hey guys, I'm just gonna get right into this. I'd like to first start with a little background on my grandma. She's an Italian Catholic bird who was raised in Peoria, Illinois, and relocated to Sacramento, California, where she married a serviceman and had four beautiful children. She then divorced that man and began an admittedly short relationship with another man with whom she had one child. And then it says in parentheses, my fava. I'm assuming that's how they want me to pronounce it. She was a single mom and lived in a beautiful Victorian home in downtown Sacramento where she would sell Avon.
Georgia Hardstark
Amazing.
Karen Kilgariff
She was a devout Catholic who collected creepy Jesus pictures, enjoyed gardening, and eventually spending time with her grandkids. She fought and beat breast cancer and had only one boob, which I found incredibly amusing as a child. And because she was deaf in one ear, she wouldn't hear herself fart, which again, I found awfully amusing. She was just an all around sweet and wonderful old lady.
Georgia Hardstark
Or so we thought. Oh no. What's the lady from Sacramento who fucked Dorothea Puente? Yeah, my grandma was Dorothea.
Karen Kilgariff
This is the true. Or so we thought. Email. Anyway, my grandma Mary passed in 1999 after a long battle with cancer. After she passed, we all found ourselves going through the relics in her basement which had been acquired over a lifetime time. I'm big into nostalgia and anything vintage, so I found myself buried in letters between her and My grandfather Parentheses, who was a total piece of shit. But that's a story for another day. And pictures. And we even found some old 8 millimeter film reels. Score. I immediately decided to hook up her old projector and see what was on the film. Yes.
Georgia Hardstark
Yes.
Karen Kilgariff
The answer is yes. I guess I was expecting footage of a 50s era Christmas or something of that nature. Nope. Big fucking nope. Grandma was a swinger and these were her big orgy sex tapes.
Georgia Hardstark
Oh, vintage orgy sex tapes.
Karen Kilgariff
Real to real sex tapes.
Georgia Hardstark
Unbelievable.
Karen Kilgariff
Now I'm a total sex positive hippie. But. But there's a level of horror in finding footage of Granny in an orgy. I mean Jesus, I bet that's worth.
Georgia Hardstark
A lot of money.
Karen Kilgariff
Also I just like as I was reading this I'm like Catholic, Catholic, Catholic where I'm just like man, she really broke free. I feel like my whole life was a lie. Reading the letters only confirmed what a tart my granny was and the pictures are forever scarred into my retinas. I realize the story has absolutely nothing to do with murder, but is arguably just as horrifying. Agree. And I thought you'd all be thoroughly entertained by my misfortune.
Georgia Hardstark
We are.
Karen Kilgariff
Anyway, stay sexy and be careful while rifling through Granny's blood belongings. Casey.
Georgia Hardstark
Unbelievable.
Karen Kilgariff
I mean you're just like am I gonna see my uncle as a six year old? Like oh my God, put that on. Make sure we watch it. And then it just like.
Georgia Hardstark
Porn. Real to real porn.
Karen Kilgariff
Also, just really quick, I do think we should do a call out for or so We Thought stories.
Georgia Hardstark
Great idea, right? Or so We Thought or so we Thought. Please email them to my favorite murder gmail about anything. Doesn't have to be about grandparents appearance.
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Georgia Hardstark
My grandma Sandy was a badass. She escaped the abuses of my piece of shit grandpa. Not a piece of shit grandpa's gone and raised my mom and her siblings on her own while working Full time at Ford Automotive as an upholsterer.
Karen Kilgariff
The amount of women who have had to do that and do it and no one ever emails about them. That's just what you're expected to when some piece of shit is abusive. And then you get away from them and it's like, and good luck as you do this by yourself. And they do.
Georgia Hardstark
They do they have to.
Karen Kilgariff
They do.
Georgia Hardstark
Amen. I knew her as the most loving and funny grandma who golfed every day and lit up every room. What I didn't know was that she had a wild side. But before we get there, let's get to my role at her funeral. I was 15 and for some reason my aunt asked me to speak a passage from the Bible at this very Catholic funeral. For some reason, don't ask a 15 year old. You're right, you spit.
Karen Kilgariff
I did a little spit take on that because I'm like, oh yeah, this is a high pressure situation.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah. She had put a post it note on the page I was supposed to read. When it was my turn, I nervously walked up the steps to the pulpit. Turning the page I began to read only to realize that I was on the priest's page. Upon realizing this, I said oh shit into the microphone and quickly moved to my page, stammering at my part and rushing towards the steps where I proceeded to trip and fall down them on my ass. Oh, oh no. When I got back to the pew, face a tomato, I was met with my aunt's Catholic school teacher angry gaze upon me. Of course my great aunt was however, laughing and said my grandma would have found it hilarious. Yeah, that's kind of cool, right?
Karen Kilgariff
It's very sweet. She said oh shit in church.
Georgia Hardstark
Shit. To a microphone at a Catholic church.
Karen Kilgariff
Echoing it's so like oh shit. Old fashioned. Oppressive.
Georgia Hardstark
At the wake was when there were even more revelations as people said their final goodbyes to my grandma. Our family friend Troy came up to me to give me his condolences. He then, licker on his breath, pulled out a photo of him and my grandma on a cruise wearing penis balloon hats.
Karen Kilgariff
Oh, okay. Then you go oh, oh.
Georgia Hardstark
He then informed me that he and my grandma had basically been buddies my entire life and that she had her nipples pierced. No, no, I hadn't read that part.
Karen Kilgariff
No, no, no.
Georgia Hardstark
Oh my God again, I was 15.
Karen Kilgariff
And it's your grandma. Even if you were 45.
Georgia Hardstark
Grandma, it's your grandma. Also, apparently my grandma had brought weed brownies to the Ford Christmas party and got the head of Ford aut blitzed out of his mind. Oh, sh.
Karen Kilgariff
That's very Mad Men.
Georgia Hardstark
Yeah.
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah.
Georgia Hardstark
Alrighty. That's it. Thank you all for your shenanigans and keeping me company through a lot of life's twists and turns. Stay sexy. And don't forget that grandmas can have a wild side, too.
Karen Kilgariff
Best K they them K. We'll never forget that. Because of your grandma's pierced nipples.
Georgia Hardstark
Grandma's big saggy boobs pierced. I love it. And he just felt like he had to tell her they were fuck. Grandma had fuck buddies and nipples pierced.
Karen Kilgariff
I mean, it's good to know that your grandma contains multitudes, but there are certain people that you just would like to see in a certain light. Yes, but I guess not. Okay, this isn't a direct. I mean, this is a grandparent story, but it is, you know, grandparents always have their pets.
Georgia Hardstark
Got it.
Karen Kilgariff
So I won't read you the subject line. It says, hello, ladies and creatures, Day one listener here. Day one listener.
Georgia Hardstark
Whoa.
Karen Kilgariff
And then it says, jumping right into it because this is my family's iconic dog stream. So to begin, my grandpa grew up in a small town named Edenderry in southern Ireland with his widowed mother and five siblings, the o' Connell family.
Georgia Hardstark
Oh, my God, can't be more Irish, right?
Karen Kilgariff
They all lived in the town hall in the middle of the city.
Georgia Hardstark
Ugh.
Karen Kilgariff
Take me there now. They had a dog named Smokey. And Smokey, all caps was period, a period menace. He had the reputation around town for being dangerous around children, fighting and chasing kids down, et cetera. It's so old fashioned of like a biting dog that's just loose in town.
Georgia Hardstark
And it's like, you're not gonna get sued for it at all.
Karen Kilgariff
No, that's Smokey. Yeah, everyone's gonna.
Georgia Hardstark
Don't go near Smokey.
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah, it's your problem as Smokey bites you. So Smokey was looking at the end of his line being labeled as public enemy number one and locked up by the civic guard in the barracks to be shot.
Georgia Hardstark
Oh, fun.
Karen Kilgariff
And then in parentheses, it says, this was the 1940s.
Georgia Hardstark
Okay.
Karen Kilgariff
Early one morning, the mongrel who was locked in an outhouse cleverly escaped and raced down through the streets of Eden Dairy to get back his family. But when he arrived, the town hall was inflamed.
Georgia Hardstark
This is some wizard of Oz shit right here.
Karen Kilgariff
Yes, it is. It's like, oh, you think I'm bad? Well, I'm about to do some. Some serious. My grandpa Sean, great grandmother and all his siblings were still inside.
Georgia Hardstark
What?
Karen Kilgariff
So what does Smokey do. He begins barking incessantly around the town square until my great grandmother woke up. And wouldn't you have it? The entire townsfolk woke up as well. So, yes, a dog named Smokey saved my family from a fire.
Georgia Hardstark
Oh. Oh, my God.
Karen Kilgariff
My grandpa and his whole family made it out safely because of Smokey. He was hailed as a hero, and the town praised him. There was a song written about Smokey and the fire and a newspaper article.
Georgia Hardstark
Give me love.
Karen Kilgariff
Look at Smokey.
Georgia Hardstark
My God. Doom dog saves a family. Must Smokey be destroyed? Oh, it's exactly what I thought Smokey would look like.
Karen Kilgariff
And describe Smokey for the people.
Georgia Hardstark
Like a mutt with, like, kind of scruffy white hair with a couple spots here and there. Super mutt.
Karen Kilgariff
Yes.
Georgia Hardstark
Probably, like, I'd say £40 or so. Like the perfect super mu. Oh, my God.
Karen Kilgariff
My grandpa and his whole family made it out safely because of Smokey. He was hailed as a hero. And my grandpa, Sean o', Connell, went on to be a detective and a captain for the Garda and saved many lives himself.
Georgia Hardstark
Holy shit.
Karen Kilgariff
Sean was also an amazing storyteller and jokester and had some incredible stories from his detective work. He had his house shot at where my mom and siblings lived, worked easily with criminal informants because of his charge, and even prevented a bombing to the British Royal grounds. And much, much more. He passed away two years ago in his hometown of Eden Dairy, and is greatly missed. Thank you, ladies, for the joy that your podcast brings. You two have been a major part of my life. I've been listening since I was 15.
Georgia Hardstark
Oh, no.
Karen Kilgariff
And I'm almost 24. You've been making sure people are staying aware of their minds, bodies, and surroundings. I can't be more grateful to have found you and your podcast. I will leave you with a poem that my grandpa passed down the family, and then in parentheses, it says in a heavy Irish accent, which I will not do.
Georgia Hardstark
Darren, come on.
Karen Kilgariff
Oh, darling Sue, I do love you. I love you in your nightie when the moonlight flits across your tits. Jesus Christ Almighty. And then it says, that's his humor for you. Stay sexy and maybe don't shoot the bad dog. Annalise, that's amazing.
Georgia Hardstark
That was a great one. Those were all great.
Karen Kilgariff
Grandpa, grandma, grandparent, have a Great Grandparents Day. Call your grandparents if you still have them. You will miss them when they're gone.
Georgia Hardstark
Absolutely. And stay sexy and don't get murdered. Goodbye.
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Georgia Hardstark
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Karen Kilgariff
This has been an exactly right production.
Georgia Hardstark
Our senior producers are Alejandra Keck and Molly Smith.
Karen Kilgariff
Our editor is Aristotle Acevedo.
Georgia Hardstark
This episode was mixed by Liana Squillace.
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Release Date: September 1, 2025
Hosts: Karen Kilgariff & Georgia Hardstark
Theme: Listener hometown stories about unforgettable grandparents—some heartwarming, some hilarious, and most with a wild twist. Karen and Georgia celebrate Grandparents Day with tales of donkey crimes, near-fatal construction incidents, rebellious grannies, swinger surprises, dog heroics, and mortifying funerals.
In Minisode 451, Karen and Georgia dedicate the episode to “Grandparents Day,” reading fan-submitted stories about their wild, tough, or unexpectedly racy grandparents. The episode is a blend of touching, funny, and jaw-dropping accounts—each story peeling back the curtain on the secret lives and legendary exploits of grandmas and grandpas. There are mysteries, near-death survivals, secret sex tapes, feisty old ladies, and even a dog that goes from town menace to hero.
[02:12-05:10] Listener: James from NYC
[05:45-09:41] Listener: Lily
[12:21-15:02] Listener: Sarah (she/her)
[15:16-18:08] Listener: Casey
[21:00-24:07] Listener: K (they/them)
[24:38-28:19] Listener: Annalise
Karen:
“Grandpa, grandma, grandparent, have a great Grandparents Day. Call your grandparents if you still have them. You will miss them when they're gone.” [28:21]
Georgia:
“Stay sexy and don’t get murdered.” [28:28]
This episode is a must-listen for the laughter, heart, and reminder that even the most buttoned-down relatives may have a secret (or scandalous!) past.