MFM Minisode 455

Summary

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My Favorite Murder Minisode 455 – September 29, 2025

Podcast Hosts: Karen Kilgariff & Georgia Hardstark
Episode Theme: Listener-Submitted Hometown and True Crime Stories, Twin Telepathy, and Childhood Mischief
Tone: Warm, irreverent, funny, heartfelt

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Episode Overview

In Minisode 455, Karen and Georgia dive into a new batch of listener-submitted “hometown” stories, encompassing everything from true crime bar trivia drama, attempted hitmen, harrowing road encounters, spooky twin dreams, latchkey kid confessions, and shitbag childhood pranks. The hosts bring their signature blend of dark humor and empathy, making each story as hilarious as it is engaging. Listeners are invited to swap their own anecdotes and to keep the email inbox bursting with more family drama and “shitbag” tales.

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Key Discussion Points & Story Highlights

1. Outing Yourself as a Murderino at Bar Trivia

[02:32–06:43]

• A listener describes attending bar trivia with family while on vacation and facing a dilemma: should she answer (and thus out herself as a true crime fan) when the final question is, “Before his identity was known, what nickname did the media give notorious serial killer Richard Ramirez?”
• Quote:
  • Karen: “Easy, I thought. The Night Stalker. I was about to whisper the moniker to my family when I realized that answering this question would reveal a secret that I had kept from my par for eight years. That I am a murderino.” [03:26]
  • The listener describes how her parents asked her as a teen to never listen to MFM (after a tense, gore-filled car ride), leading to years of secret fandom.
• When she finally reveals her knowledge to win trivia, her parents react with concern and judgment, and the grand prize is “a $2 miniature ping pong set with instructions in a language I don’t understand.” [06:28]
  • Georgia, laughing: “You didn’t even get a pint. Or like a fucking pitcher of beer.” [06:35]

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2. Hitman on the News, Secret Family Drama

[07:14–10:05]

• A listener recounts how her aunt (“Gladys Jones”) discovered via the local evening news that she was the intended victim of a hitman hired by her boyfriend’s ex-wife; fortunately, the “hitman” was an undercover officer.
• The aunt never gave interviews, which is why there’s almost no public record of the case. Instead, she would pretend not to be home when reporters called.
  • Karen: “Where were the police contacting her to be like, hey, this just happened?” [08:43]
• The family’s story takes a wild turn: after leaving the boyfriend, the aunt eventually married her deceased sister’s first husband, making her cousins into “sibling cousins”—leaving Karen and Georgia in disbelief and eager for “awkward marriage” stories.
  • Georgia: “I want people to write in their weird...wedding being like, what the fuck is happening?” [10:00]

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3. Highway Horror: 101 Stalker

[11:49–15:48]

• A chilling account of a woman pursued on Highway 101 by a man in an SUV, flashing lights and attempting to force her to pull over, where she wisely resists the urge.
  • Karen, narrating: “There was a rest stop coming up, and I almost took the exit when I started having this gnawing feeling that I shouldn’t stop. Thank God.” [12:39]
• The stalker tries multiple times to get her off the highway, mirroring the Zodiac killer tactic. After faking a turn off the highway, she manages to escape, fueling up in a populated area—and never sees him again.
  • Georgia: “It was totally nefarious. ...That is also textbook.” [15:53]
• Both hosts agree: never pull over for a stranger signaling something’s wrong with your car; “no one gives a shit.” [16:05]

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4. Twin Telepathy Nightmare

[16:21–18:49]

• Listener Corey, a fraternal twin, shares a surreal story of “psychic” connection: both she and her twin have the exact same nightmare about a faceless woman, a black river, and syringes stabbing their feet.
  • Karen: “That’s wild.” [17:53]
• The explanation comes from a Long Island mother-in-law: the dream reflects their anxiety over their mom’s upcoming visit—“You’re walking on pins and needles.” [18:20]
  • Karen, laughing: “She can hear you right now.” [18:31]
• The segment ends with appreciation of twin telepathy stories and an open call for more.

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5. A Latchkey Kid’s Last Stand

[20:50–25:33]

• A former “latchkey kid” (third grade) recalls getting locked out with her little sister in freezing Colorado, unable to open the family’s sticky lock (a recurring issue ignored by their parents). Desperate, she pees in the backyard—exposed to a public golf course—while her sister stands lookout.
  • Karen: “The whole thing falls apart if the latch key doesn’t work.” [22:20]
  • Georgia, on their generational independence: “Fend for yourself. I need to get that tattooed on my lower back.” [21:57]
• Their “latchkey” privileges are revoked, and Karen, in true MFM spirit, squarely blames the parents.
  • The writer shares her career progression—from teacher to principal—and drops the bombshell: her uncle did handyman work for the JonBenet Ramsey family and was questioned during the infamous case. [25:14]

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6. “Shitbag” Childhood Pranks

[25:37–27:17]

• Inspired by past “shitbag” stories, Rebecca C. recounts using the default password on her rural Kentucky town’s mobile voicemail system (9999) to access strangers’ voicemail greetings, replacing them with “sex sounds, animal noises and random obscenities.”
  • Karen: “This is how you have to pass the time in the country.” [26:43]
  • Georgia, with glee: “You’ve come to the Right podcast.” [27:12]
• The hosts fully embrace “shitbag” stories and invite more mischievous tales.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On parental disapproval as accidental marketing:
  • Karen: “That’s the marketing we’re looking for, for sure.” [05:07]
• On nostalgia for bar trivia humility:
  • Karen: “I’m one of those fake smart people that doesn’t know what the fuck she’s talking about.” [06:55]
• On blaming parents for latchkey fiascos:
  • Karen: “We’re here to squarely blame our own parents through this story any way we can.” [23:49]
• On the joy of listener stories:
  • Georgia: “At least we have alcohol.” [07:14]
  • Karen: “You just mind your family’s drama and...fucking nailed it.” [25:30]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-------------|-------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:21–06:43 | “Outing Yourself as a Murderino at Bar Trivia” | | 07:14–10:10 | “Hitman in the News, Secret Family Drama” | | 11:49–15:53 | “Highway Horror: 101 Stalker” | | 16:21–18:49 | “Twin Telepathy Nightmare” | | 20:50–25:33 | “A Latchkey Kid’s Last Stand & JonBenet Family Bombshell” | | 25:37–27:17 | “Shitbag Childhood Pranks” |

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Closing Vibe

Karen and Georgia keep things heartfelt and hilarious, leaning into their own awkward childhoods and encouraging listeners to share more “awkward marriage,” “family drama,” and “shitbag mischief” stories. It’s an episode filled with warmth, catharsis, and their trademark gallows humor—a perfect slice of the My Favorite Murder experience for diehards and new listeners alike.

“Stay sexy and don’t get murdered!”

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Contact:
Send your stories: [e-mail]
Instagram: @myfavoritemurder
Listen everywhere & watch on YouTube/Exactly Right’s channel.

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Transcript

[Karen Kilgariff]

This is exactly right.

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[Georgia Hardstark]

Hello and welcome to my favorite murder, the Minisode. Hi. There you go. We're going to read you your story.

[Karen Kilgariff]

There you go.

[Georgia Hardstark]

You want to go first? Sure.

[Karen Kilgariff]

This first email. The subject line is When Winning Bar Trivia Means Outing yourself as a Murderino hello all. It will soon be clear that this podcast is very important to me, so for now I will skip over the compliments and pleasantries. On a recent vacation to a small tourist town, my extended family decided it would be a great idea to attend a weekly trivia night held at a bar in town. Once we arrived, it was clear that we were the only out of towners, so we tried to discreetly seat ourselves at a corner table. As the evening continued, we realized that our team was actually doing pretty well, our initial desire to stay under the radar disappeared. Suddenly, we were there to win. Then it came to the last question, worth a grand total of 20 points.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh my God.

[Karen Kilgariff]

We knew it would decide the game. The question before his identity was known, what nickname did the media give notorious serial killer Richard Ramirez?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh, that's so easy.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Easy, I thought. The Night Stalker. I was about to whisper the moniker to my family when I realized that answering this question would reveal a secret that I had kept from my par for eight years. That I am a murderino. Oh my God. Let me back up briefly. I was 15 and on a road trip with my parents with a not even close to fully developed brain. I thought it would be a great idea to play an episode of this new podcast I'd been listening to called My Favorite Murder. Oh my God. To liven up the otherwise boring drive 15. What could go wrong? I mean, with this fucking podcast. My mom got me hooked on Agatha Christie before I could read, and my dad starts every conversation with So I was listening to this podcast the other day, so it seemed like the natural thing to do. We listened to about 15 minutes of an episode of MFM, during which I could all caps feel the tension in the car growing with every new gory detail of the case being described. Suddenly, my mom paused the episode and my parents glanced at each other. Before my dad turned to me in the backseat, he said in a very serious tone, promise us to never listen to this again. I, being an incredibly sensitive child, flushed red from embarrassment and agree.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I don't know if I'm proud or horrified by this.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I think the combo feeling is great.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It's a weird feeling to be like, I want to apologize and tell someone to fuck off at the same time.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Here's the thing. It's just a reality that's waiting for that 15 year old when they're 20 or 25 or whenever you think it's appropriate. But it's already happening.

[Georgia Hardstark]

And you're doing us a favor by saying that to a teenager because all she's now going to do is listen to every episode that we've done.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I mean, that is.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Thank you.

[Karen Kilgariff]

That's the marketing we're looking for, for sure.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yes. Parents not disapproving of us.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Okay, it Sundays, then started eight years of deception. Or maybe I should call it lying by omission. I have continued to listen to your podcast religiously despite my parents obvious and rather dramatic reaction to two lovely and hilarious women talking about their not uncommon but slightly strange passion. I listened throughout high school College. And then in parentheses, it says, shout out to everyone else who started College in fall 2020. I did not have a good time. So sad. And I still keep up now as I'm working on my master's in biology.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Wow.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Fancy. During this time, I never needed to reveal that I continued to listen to the podcast despite being highly discouraged from doing so by my parents. Until trivia. So there I was. Do I reveal my interest in true crime by answering a question about Richard Ramirez? Or do I willingly let my family lose bar trivia? I decided that I could no longer live in this world of deception. I answered the question and when asked, revealed how I would possibly know any about a murderer who was caught more than 15 years before I was born. I was correct and we won. Trivia. Thanks to my sacrifice. And what did I get for this selfless gesture? A concerned look from my mother? An offhand judgment from my father? Something like, I can't imagine wanting to learn about that kind of thing.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh, my God.

[Karen Kilgariff]

And the evening's grand prize, a $2 miniature ping pong set with instructions in a language I don't understand.

[Georgia Hardstark]

You didn't even get a pint. Or like a fucking pitcher of beer.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I'm sure. It's like, here's this fun prize, right? Stay sexy and risk it all for bar trivia.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Em, that was a great story because I do love bar trivia.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I love it. It's so fun and sometimes it's so hard.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It's so hard. That's why I stopped playing it. It's like, last time I played it, I was like, I am the stupidest person in this room.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I did that once, and I was with friends, and one of the friends was a guy I liked, and I knew he was really smart. And I was like, this is where we bond over being smart. And I was like, I've just been telling myself I'm smart. I'm one of those fake smart people that doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about. Hurtful. I also learned that on this podcast.

[Georgia Hardstark]

That's right. At least we have alcohol. Okay, this is called Hitman in the news. Hello, Georgia, Karen and Sundry staff. I'm so glad to finally be sharing my hometown story while I no longer live there. This happened in my place of birth about 30 years ago. The dates aren't well known, and there was almost no press coverage of what happened, so I couldn't get exact dates for you. With all this ambiguity and uncertainty, you might be wondering how I know this even happened. And you would be right to wonder. I know because it happened in my. My aunt and my sister saw it on the news. I'm leaving out the wear to protect the innocent and my rather extended family that still lives in the small Midwestern city. As the story goes, my aunt, in her 50s at the time, let's call her Gladys Jones, was in a relationship with a guy. It had gotten serious enough that they were cohabitating. While most of the family didn't care for him, it was known that she was considering marrying him. Then one evening, she was watching the 5 o' clock news and heard something like. And then it says, Georgia puts on her newscaster voice. Police have arrested a local woman after she allegedly attempted to hire a hitman to kill her ex husband's girlfriend, only to unknowingly contact an undercover police officer. The intended victim was Gladys Jones.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Oh, shit.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yes, that's right. My aunt learned she was nearly the victim of a hitman on the evening news.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Oh my God. Like, here's her own name.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Here's your. Like, they shouldn't have put out her name. For sure. They used to do that shit all the time in the news, right? It's like, here's. And here's her. Her address.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Where were the police contacting her to be like, hey, this just happened?

[Georgia Hardstark]

They weren't. It seems the ex wife had gotten wind of the potential marriage and did not approve. We'll just have to leave it at that. Since her motivations were never explained, I had a chance to speak with my aunt about it recently. I asked if it had really happened because all I had was a story from my sister and family gossip. She explained that the reason I couldn't find anything about it on the Internet was because she never gave a single interview or comment to a journalist about the incident. They would call and she would pretend that Gladys wasn't home. Eventually, one of them asked, you're Gladys, aren't you? Her reply? I don't know. It will come as no surprise to anyone that she did not end up marrying the guy. She noped out of that relationship right quick. Many years later, she would marry her dead sister's first husband, turning my cousins into sibling cousins. But that's a story for another time.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yes, it is.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Except for right now. I need to hear this.

[Karen Kilgariff]

What a cliffhanger.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Tell us everything. Thank you for your attention to this matter, Dawn. D O N. Oh, wow. I want people to write in their weird, like, marriage, awkward marriage stories of like, my cousin married the second. You know, like the awkward like, oh no, everyone was at the wedding being like, what the fuck is happening?

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah, little family drama.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Family drama. Wedding edition. My favorite Murder at Gmail.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I want people to write in more scripts for you to read as a newscaster. I think you should do that more often.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Did I do all right?

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah. That's great. Very serious?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yes. Got to be.

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[Karen Kilgariff]

This is crazy. I'm not going to read you the subject line. It says so. Check this shit out. Circa 2007 I was going to school at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. My friend had just moved to Santa Barbara from the east coast and I drove down one weekend to help her unpack her pod. Oh yeah, that's like a name. Check the pod. The next morning I set off back up the 101 toward home. I was driving my good old dark purple 98 Dodge Neon and rocking out as one does on a solo road trip. I can't remember exactly what I was listening to, but I do remember I was bopping around and singing at the top of my lungs. At some point I noticed an SUV coming up behind me. The car moved over into the passing lane and came up alongside me. I continued, unfazed to bop around and sing. As the car came alongside me. I briefly looked over and noticed the driver, a middle aged White dude was full on staring at me, which. Okay, fine. I'm sure I looked ridiculous. However, instead of passing me, he slowed down and got behind me again. Well, that was weird, I thought. Then he started flashing his lights like he wanted me to pull over. Since I was driving an old crappy car, I immediately thought there must be something wrong and he was trying to warn me. Did I leave my trunk open? Is my hood unlatched? Did I forget to put my gas cap back on? All things I've done before. There was a rest stop coming up, and I almost took the exit when I started having this gnawing feeling that I shouldn't stop. Thank God. I did a quick assessment of the car. It was driving fine. No smoke, no warning lights on the dash. The hood and the trunk both looked secure as far as I could tell. So I ignored him and kept going. At that point, he got more aggressive, flashing his lights rapidly and tailgating me. If you're familiar with this section of the 101 just north of Santa Barbara, you know it's one of the most beautiful drives in California, but it's largely unpopulated.

[Georgia Hardstark]

And it's also where the Zodiac Killer did this exact thing and pulled over a woman.

[Karen Kilgariff]

That woman? Yeah. I had my cell phone. I'm not sure why I didn't call 911, but the rational part of my brain was telling me that I was being paranoid. I did, however, open it. This was flip phone era and pre dial 911. So if shit got real, all I had to do was hit the call button. That's very smart. He stopped flashing his lights, but for the next 15 miles, he continued to tail me. If I slowed down, he slowed down. If I started speeding, he started speeding. Other cars passed us, but no one else tried to gesture to me that something was wrong with my car. At this point, I'm freaking the fuck out. If I call the police, what do I say? Some guy is refusing to pass me no matter what I do. I can't even really tell them where I am, other than heading northbound somewhere on the 101. So I just continue to drive, hoping that he'll get bored with this game and move on. We finally approach the exit for Solvang. I turn on my blinker and started to take the exit. I look in my rear view and see that he's doing the same. Quickly, I veer back onto the 101 and put the pedal to the metal. To my relief, he continues up the off ramp to the light. I figure now's my chance to make my getaway. And I start going over 90 miles an hour.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Holy shit.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Towards home. I decided that getting a speeding ticket at this point would be the best case scenario. Which is very smart because that also involves police.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah, but what if you got in a car accident?

[Karen Kilgariff]

Well, that's true. There's a lot of minuses to this situation. I spent the next 40 plus miles staring in my rearview mirror and praying not to see that car again. By the time I reached Santa Maria, there was still no sign of him and I was nearly out of gas. I decided I had to stop. Remember, I am in a purple car. If he's still looking for me, I don't exactly blend in. So instead of getting gas right off the exit, I decide to go further into Santa Maria. As I was fueling up, I did a once over of my car. Nothing was wrong with it. As soon as I had pumped enough gas to get, I got the fuck out of there. And I never saw him again. To this day, I wonder what he was doing. Or was I just being paranoid? Was he playing with me? Or did I escape the clutches of a serial killer? Whatever the case, I'm just happy I am still here to tell the story.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Jesus.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Anyway, stay sexy and don't pull over for creepy dudes on the 101. Amber.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh my God. It was totally nefarious. There's no. What. What was the other point of that? Besides that? Like, that is also textbook.

[Karen Kilgariff]

How many times has your, like, trunk been open and no one gives a shit?

[Georgia Hardstark]

No one gives a shit. Like, and you would know. And it also doesn't matter.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yes.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It wouldn't matter. You would know.

[Karen Kilgariff]

And that idea if someone's.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Tailgating you to convey information.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah. To intimidate you to pull over.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Don't like it.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Okay. Twin telepathy nightmare. And Long island mother in laws. Hi, MFM crew. Hello, murderinos. Longtime listener, first time sender, and apparently part of a paranormal two for one deal. For context, I have a twin sister who also happens to be my absolute best friend. She also listens to every episode of this podcast and we have our weekly debriefs. Oh, we're fraternal boy and girl twins, but when we were toddlers, a university wanted to study us because our connection was more like identical twins full on communicating without speaking, matching bruises, psychic weirdness. Territor.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Ooh, that's fascinating.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Twin telepathy. Absolutely real. It doesn't happen as often now that we live apart, but last week we had one of Our creepiest ones yet.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Ooh, adult, I'm assuming.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

What if this was a three year old riding it, using AI to ride in.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I had a restless night's sleep and one of those dreams that feel more like a memory. In the dream, I'm walking through the woods at night with a woman whose face I can't quite see. I only know she's just ahead of me, like she's leading me somewhere. We reach a black slow moving river. I slip, crash into the water, and when I stand up, I feel a stabbing pain. I lift my feet and find dirty syringes sticking out at every angle.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Oh God.

[Georgia Hardstark]

The next day I tell my sister of this horrifying dream and she gasps. She had the exact same dream. Same faceless woman, same river, same filthy needles in her feet.

[Karen Kilgariff]

What?

[Georgia Hardstark]

We were both horrified but admittedly impressed that our telepathy still works.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I mean, that's wild.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I know. For additional context, our mother was scheduled to visit in a couple weeks, but we didn't think much of that detail until I was at dinner with my mother in law one night who had it all figured out. I tell her the dream we both had, wondering what it all meant. And without hesitation, in her perfect Long island accent, which I can't do. Just give it a whirl, she says. And then it says, read in a thick Long island accent.

[Karen Kilgariff]

New York in New York.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh, that one's easy. Your mother's coming to visit. You're walking on pins and needles. Perfection. Long island medium. Thank you. All those hours I watched of that helped.

[Karen Kilgariff]

She can hear you right now.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh my God.

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[Georgia Hardstark]

I told my sister we laughed so hard we cried. Turns out our psychic powers weren't warning us about death, danger or the supernatural. Just a visit with mom. Stay sexy and don't let your psychic twin connection drag you into the river. Corey.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Wow, that's fascinating. Like I love that email. Just as an experience.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah. Cause like it's something that is so fascinating. The twin connect. Like remember those unsolved mysteries of like twins from across the country and I. It's just like so fascinating.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yes.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I always wanted a twin when I was a kid.

[Karen Kilgariff]

That's that. Yeah, from that book series where it's like a daughter cuts her hand and a mother feels it.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Do you have a telepathic fucking vibe with anyone?

[Karen Kilgariff]

Oh my God. Would you like to?

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[Karen Kilgariff]

This is I'm not gonna read you half of this title, but the back half is a latchkey kid's last stand hello friends. Growing up as an 80s 90s kid, I proudly held the title of Latchkey Kid. At least until one wintry Colorado afternoon brought that era to an embarrassing end. Here was the after school protocol in our house. My sister, a kindergartener, and I, a third grader, would hop off the bus at our neighborhood stop and walk a few blocks home. I was then responsible for retrieving the hidden key from the hook behind the behind the bench on our front porch and unlocking the front door.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Just picturing my nephews were like that age fucking taking themselves home from school. Bye bye. You're in charge cause you're a little bit older.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Good luck on the next two blocks. Seven year old and five year old.

[Georgia Hardstark]

What the fuck? What were we thinking?

[Karen Kilgariff]

So crazy. It was. I think it was like ignorance is bliss back then. Partially, yeah. Once inside I'd make a snack for the two of us and wait for our mom to get home about an hour later. An hour Nothing.

[Georgia Hardstark]

No, we'd be home for like fucking midnight. Alone.

[Karen Kilgariff]

For real.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Fend for yourself. I'm like need to get that tattooed on my lower back.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Fend for yourself. Simple, efficient, foolproof. Except the lock and I had a complicated relationship. I'd had issues with it before and told my parents my theory. The lock Got sticky when it was cold. They allegedly tested it and said it was fine and told me to proceed as normal with the routine.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Too bad. Deal with it.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I'm sorry, I understand that it was time and place, but that's bullshit parent wise. Fix the fucking lock. Yeah, the whole thing falls apart if the latch key doesn't work.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Right? Right.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Proceed as normal with the routine. Until one day it wasn't fine. It was freezing, and yet again, the key wouldn't work. I tried everything. Gentle jiggles, forceful yanks, whispered threats. Nothing. And of course, to make matters worse, I really had to pee. Did I knock on the neighbor's door for help? Absolutely not. We knew them to some extent. I was far too embarrass to explain that I'd been defeated by a doorknob and that I was about to pee my pants. We were cold, snackless, and I was seconds away from disaster. So I did what any panicked third grader might do. I yelled at my sister to serve as lookout, ran to the backyard, rushingly fumbled to unhook my oshkosh overalls, and peed in the winter brown grass. There was no fence, no landscaping. Just our brand new house backing up to a public golf course and my public shame squad. An hour later, my mom came home to find us shivering on the porch bench. I still couldn't get the door open. And my sister. I had planned to carry that backyard secret to my grave, but the snitch ratted me out instantly. My mom was horrified. Needless to say, our latchkey privileges were revoked.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I'm sorry. Your mother's privileges should have been revoked.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah, that's right.

[Georgia Hardstark]

That's all on her.

[Karen Kilgariff]

That's parents privileges to be like. We don't have to worry about them.

[Georgia Hardstark]

For these three hours and the lock's broken. But we don't care. Like we're here to blame the parents.

[Karen Kilgariff]

We're here to squarely blame our own parents through this story any way we can.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Always.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Cause also, it's so frustrating. In your little kid mind. You're like, I should be able to handle this. And it's like, why?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Because someone told you to handle it?

[Karen Kilgariff]

I've never done anything like this before. We were promptly enrolled in an after school program and I was officially relieved of key duty. Looking back, I probably wasn't truly in trouble, but at the time, it felt like I'd failed the family. And while my parents may have veered into light trash territory by giving their 9 year old such responsibility without any if their kids even made it home each day. They were and still are amazing parents. In fact, my mom's my hero and I hope to be just like her when I grow up. I'm a day one listener. And since your very first episodes, I've gone from teacher to assistant principal to the principal of a large public high school. I just wanna say thank you for your humor, your hearts, and your fierce love for public education and the people in it. Amy. Psych. My quote unquote favorite murder is the JonBenet Ramsey case. What we know as your firstest murder. Growing up as a Colorado kid in the 90s, it was both terrifying and fascinating. And this case definitely sparked my lifelong interest in true crime. It wasn't until much later that my dad casually mentioned that his brother, my uncle, was one of the many people questioned in the investigation because he had done handyman work for the Ramses.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Wow.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Now, to be fair, my dad is known for being a bit of a gossip and I've definitely to ask my uncle directly. So this is an unconfirmed story, but still. Sheesh.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Wow.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Amy, Amy, Amy.

[Karen Kilgariff]

You nailed it.

[Georgia Hardstark]

You just mind your family's drama and. Fucking nailed it.

[Karen Kilgariff]

You just spilled. Good luck at Thanksgiving.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Okay, my last one's called Shitbag Stories. Question mark, question mark, question mark, question mark. Hello, Murder fam. I'm a murder podcast junkie. I listen at work while I'm cleaning, showering, driving, and everything in between showering. I recently discovered MFM and I just love it. This is from my mom. I just love it.

[Karen Kilgariff]

And I just love it.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I just listened to an episode where I believe someone wrote in about being shitbag sisters and prank calling as kids, it made me think of my younger days and the phone pranks I used to pull. In my small town in Kentucky, there used to be a rural mobile phone provider. It was pretty small in comparison to AT&T, but it was the only service provider for a country ass town. When you signed up for this provider, this is just so brilliant. When you signed up for this provider, your voicemail password was set to the default of 9999. Everyone's was this kid figured it out.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yes.

[Georgia Hardstark]

So on weekends when there wasn't much to do, we used to call random numbers and if the voicemail picked up, we would enter the default password to see if they had changed it.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yes.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Brilliant.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yes, brilliant. This is how you have to pass the time in the country.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yes.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Well, I got my. Makes sense.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah.

[Georgia Hardstark]

If not, we would then change their voicemail greeting to sex sounds, animal noises and random obscenities. Some of these poor people had previous greetings ending in God bless and have a beautiful day. You just with so many people looking back, I still find it comical and would totally do it again. You've come to the Right podcast.

[Karen Kilgariff]

That's right.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I guess I'm still a shitbag. Lol. Stay Sexy, don't get murdered Rebecca C.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Rebecca C. We're with you entirely. For a second I thought that that meant that they could listen to other people's messages.

[Georgia Hardstark]

That's what I thought too, but I think it's even more mayhem by leaving outgoing a new outgoing message sex sounds like for children.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Shit. Shit damn.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Hang up. Tell us your shitbag stories at my.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Favorite murdermail and as two shitbags, I'd like to say on behalf of Georgia and I, stay sexy and don't get murdered.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Goodbye Elvis. Do you want a cookie?

[Karen Kilgariff]

This has been an exactly Right production.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Our senior producers are Alejandra Keck and Molly Smith.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Our editor is Aristotle Acevedo.

[Georgia Hardstark]

This episode was mixed by Leona Squillace.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Email your hometowns to my favorite murdermail.com.

[Georgia Hardstark]

And follow the show on Instagram at my favorite Murder.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Listen to my favorite murder on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Georgia Hardstark]

And now you can watch us on exactly right's YouTube page. And while you're there, please like and subscribe.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Goodbye.

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