MFM Minisode 466

Summary

My Favorite Murder Minisode 466 – December 15, 2025

Hosts: Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Podcast Network: Exactly Right and iHeartPodcasts

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Main Theme

This minisode of My Favorite Murder features Karen and Georgia reading and responding to listener-submitted "hometown" stories, tales of brushes with true crime, odd coincidence, and humorous near-misses. The episode maintains the show's signature mix of dark subject matter, wit, empathy, and comedy.

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Key Discussion Points & Listener Stories

1. The Murderous Landlord – Loretta and Her Son (02:14–04:16)

• Listener Janavi writes in about her Chicago apartment building, once managed by a sweet elderly woman (Loretta) but marred by her troubled, hoarding adult son. The listener tried befriending him, only to later discover he murdered his mother in a shocking murder-suicide.
• Key Insights:
  • Naivete and youth in assessing risk.
  • The complexity and seriousness of untreated mental illness.
  • Judging potentially dangerous behavior in hindsight.
• Notable Quote:

  "I knew he was a creepy asshole, but it never occurred to me that he could be capable of killing at all, especially his mom in such a horrific way. RIP Loretta. So stay sexy and don't invite murderers to drink beer with you in your backyard." (04:10, Janavi)

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2. Psychic Warning—or Luck? – The Falling Tree (04:50–07:32)

• Listener Shaden Berry describes a supernatural experience: as a teen, a sudden, clear thought told her to get out of bed during a storm. Moments later, a tree crashed through her window onto the bed she'd just left.
• Hosts’ reaction:
  • "Holy shit." (06:03, Georgia)
  • Discussion of the line between psychic experiences, luck, and possible guardian spirits.
• Shaden’s Life Update:
  • Sober, successful crime fiction author.
  • Book plugs: Down the Rabbit Hole and At Cafe 64 (07:09–07:18)
  • Overcoming addiction and achieving career/financial milestones.
• Memorable Quote:

  "Now I'm in my 30s. I just bought my first house...I'm three years sober. My debut novel, a crime fiction (because of course it is), came out last year...I couldn't have done it without giving up alcohol. Much love to you both." (06:47, Shaden)

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3. Hiding in the Ceiling—A Drunk Escape Attempt (11:01–13:50)

• Listener Kate recounts trying to evade police during an underage drinking raid by crawling into the drop ceiling of a bar’s bathroom—only to fall through the ceiling right above the police.
• Hosts’ reactions:
  • Admiration for the boldness and “Mission Impossible”-esque creativity (“She's running Die Hard in her mind.” – 12:15, Karen)
  • Mock encouragement and warning about drunk decision-making.
• Memorable Quote:

  "Stay sexy and don't deploy a mission impossible escape plan when you're three sheets to the wind." (13:50, Kate)

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4. The Pig Roast Guest—It Was Harrison Ford! (15:20–18:31)

• Listener Natalie remembers annual pig roasts on her Wisconsin family farm, once attended by her teacher and his "old college roommate," who turned out to be Harrison Ford.
• Hosts’ reactions:
  • Delight and incredulity at the surprise celebrity guest (“It’s Harrison Ford!” – 16:35, Karen)
  • Reflections on how adults can go unrecognized by children, and the value for celebrities in being treated ‘normally’.
• Memorable Quote:

  "I'm a normal experience Sherpa for my old friend Harrison, who now lives in the weirdest world of all time. All he wants to do is stand in a backyard and drink a beer." (17:01, Karen)

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5. Cat Burial Gone Wrong – A Veterinarian’s Caring Response (23:12–24:56)

• Listener Heather, a veterinarian, follows up on a previous story about a listener who tried to give her dead cat a "Viking burial" but ended up traumatized when the remains were recovered by authorities.
• Advice & Reassurance:
  • Explains that found/unclaimed animal remains are handled respectfully—cremated by local shelters.
  • Provides compassion and closure to the original story’s author.
• Notable Guidance:

  "When domestic animals remains are found and unclaimed, the police take them to the local shelter where they are cremated. So, botched Viking attempt aside, your baby was still cremated." (24:17, Heather)

• Hosts’ reactions:
  • Appreciation for Heather’s empathetic, professional response.
  • Discussion about the potential for accidental misunderstandings to trigger investigations.

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6. Trash Parent/Childhood Injury Lore—The Trampoline and Broken Bones (25:21–29:55)

• Listener AJ shares childhood tales of injuries ignored by overwhelmed parents—broken bones from trampolines, untreated for years, and the rough-and-tumble chaos of big families.
• Memorable Details:
  • Sister’s broken back at age 10 discovered only at 16.
  • Both parents (including a paramedic father) repeatedly shrugged off injuries, showing a generational gap in safety, attentiveness, and medical care.
• Karen and Georgia’s Response:
  • Baby-boomer/Gen-X attitudes to “tough it out.”
  • Call for more childhood injury stories—so long as everyone is okay now!
• Notable Quotes:

  "My mom didn't believe me and made me get off the trampoline by myself and walk it off. After taking one step and immediately collapsing, I was taken to the hospital and then forbidden from ever touching the trampoline again." (26:10, AJ)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Trying to get partying done?" (02:46, Karen)
  Reflects on youthful priorities in risky situations.
• "Just go for it. Just do it. Why not? Like, if you have a chance, take it. It might not work out the way you think it would. But you will have a story." (14:00–14:07, Hosts)
• "When you're a kid, you don't pay attention to adults... that's the most boring thing in the world." (17:36, Georgia)
• "Stay sexy and don't deploy a mission impossible escape plan when you're three sheets to the wind." (13:50, Kate)
• "Be aware of trampolines. SSDGM." (28:56, AJ)

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Timestamps for Noteworthy Segments

• Murderous Landlord Story: 02:14–04:16
• Supernatural Tree Rescue: 04:50–07:32
• Underage Bar Bust Escape: 11:01–13:50
• Harrison Ford at the Pig Roast: 15:20–18:31
• Cat Burial – Vet's Response: 23:12–24:56
• Trash Parent / Trampoline Injuries: 25:21–29:55

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Tone & Style

The episode’s tone is conversational, at times irreverent but always empathetic, mixing tragic and comic elements. Karen and Georgia share personal anecdotes, joke about their own reckless or naive younger selves, and show genuine appreciation for listener bravery, honesty, and survival.

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Summary

Minisode 466 of My Favorite Murder delivers the classic highs and lows of true crime storytelling seasoned with humor and empathy. From harrowing near-misses to embarrassing escapes, weird celebrity encounters to heartfelt advice from a veterinarian, Karen and Georgia affirm the show's core purpose: processing life (and death) with laughter, openness, and a community spirit. The show closes with an invitation for more listener stories—especially wild childhood injuries—reminding fans that everyone has a tale worth telling.

Transcript

[Karen Kilgariff]

This is exactly right.

[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

The Housemaid is a twisted world where perfection is an illusion and nothing is as it seems.

[Georgia Hardstark]

The shocking twist will leave you guessing until the very end.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Can you keep a secret?

[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

Make the holidays brighter and even more beautiful. Ulta Beauty gifting happens here. My savior. Hello, hello and welcome to my favorite Murder the Minisode, where we read you your stories.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Would you like to go first?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Sure. This one's. I'm not gonna tell you what it's called.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Okay.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Hi, Karen and Georgia. I wrote this in 2018. Worth another shot. Hey. Years ago, I lived in a beautiful apartment in Chicago. A sweet old lady named Loretta owned the building and her hoarding son lived in a unit. The guy was a miserable SC who would randomly just scream out loud in his apartment. A lot. I liked to hang out with my friends in the communal yard and he would always come out and yell at us to be quiet. So I thought that maybe if I befriended him, we would be able to party in peace. And it seemed to work. Remember when you were young and just.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Trying to get partying done?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Hopeful and all those things?

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Whenever we were outside and he noticed, I would invite him to hang out and it felt as though he enjoyed himself, he would bring his beer and just sort of sit there, sometimes for hours. Even my mom met him, he stopped shiting. And I swear he appreciated the company. At one point, I went to his apartment to use the bathroom. Why didn't I just go upstairs and use mine? Stupid, stupid 23 year old. And you could barely move because of all his crap. There was black mold everywhere and the bathroom was what nightmares were made of. Like train spotting. Oh, no, that thing of like, I gotta use the bathroom. You can use mine. Okay. Like, you're just 23.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Right. You're just trying to do the easiest thing to get back outside to have some more fun and be like friendly and nice. Also, I think the hoarders, I think it was like the TV show is that a lot of people first understood what that was.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

So it would be like, that wouldn't be a possibility in your mind if you'd never seen that before.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Right. I ended up moving out and I hadn't thought about them in years until a friend sent me an article of a murder suicide. That terrible man stabbed his 84 year old mother, my old landlord, to death in that terrifying apartment. And he had a five hour standoff with police until he shot and killed himself. I knew he was a creepy asshole, but it never occurred to me that he could be capable of killing at all, especially his mom in such a horrific way. RIP Loretta. So stay sexy and don't invite murderers to drink beer with you in your backyard. Love y'.

[Karen Kilgariff]

All.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Janavi.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I mean, I think there's so many signs of mental health issues and untreated mental health issues there where just like, yeah, you're doing your best to try to make someone like, in your mind happy or something, when actually what they need is serious medication and they need professionals to be talking to them and looking at them.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Totally. And then also, like, when we're that young, we're just so naive as to like, what people are capable of.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Right. How do we solve it?

[Georgia Hardstark]

We just do things our way without thinking about other people's state of mind. Reality. Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah. All right, well, here's a little upturn. It just starts with, I'm terrible at thinking up witty openers, so let's just get straight into it. In a not so recent minisode, it took me a while to get around to writing this. You asked for third man syndrome stories or similar. And while I'm not 100% sure, this totally fits the criteria, this is a story of my own. Weird psychic. I heard a voice moment when I was 13. I woke up in the middle of the night in my bed and there was a storm raging outside. Let me preface this by saying that this is the same bedroom I'd slept in since I was 6 years old. So I'd experienced many a stormy night with wild rain and wind and normally I'd fall straight back to sleep, no worries. But not this night. As I was drowsily listening to the weather outside, I had a sudden thought pop into my brain clear and loud as anything, saying, the tree is about to fall on your bedroom. I didn't even hesitate. I was up and out of my bed in seconds, making for the door. And the moment after I'd taken two steps away, the huge tree that had been outside my bedroom for years and years came crashing down, smashing the window and puncturing through the wall to land glass spraying everywhere. Right at top the bed. I had just.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Holy shit.

[Karen Kilgariff]

To this day, I have no idea how I knew that tree was about to fall. There was absolutely nothing different whatsoever about that night compared to any other stormy night. Was I for one brief moment psychic? Or was it a ghostly intervention from a loved one? Whatever it was, I'm just glad it spared me the damage of having a big old tree and a bunch of glass fall on top of me. I wanted to thank you both for providing me with so many years of entertainment and keeping me company through the ups and downs of life. I'm a day one listener. Back when I was in my mid-20s, depressed, incredibly lost, broke, and in the throes of pretty heavy reliance on alcohol. Now I'm in my 30s. I just bought my first house. My God, in this day and age. It's a miracle. Incredible work. I'm three years sober. My debut novel, a crime fiction, because of course it is, came out last year. And my second novel just came out two weeks ago. I couldn't have done it without giving up alcohol. Much love to you both. P.S. if you're curious, the first novel is. You're like, God, I want to know.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Plug your book. You got to plug your book.

[Karen Kilgariff]

The first novel is called down the Rabbit Hole by Shayden Berry and the second is at Cafe 64, but I think it's only available here in Australia.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh man, I'm ordering them Shaden.

[Karen Kilgariff]

What a huge accomplishment.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Enormous.

[Karen Kilgariff]

And also you lived through that tree.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Thing, but just who I forgot about that part. Wow, right?

[Karen Kilgariff]

What a 12 punch of success.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Seriously.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Amazing.

[Georgia Hardstark]

That's such a cool, cool letter.

[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

End. Can you keep a.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Secret? The Housemaid is a theatrical experience you do not want to.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Miss. The Housemaid Rated R. Only in theaters December.

[Georgia Hardstark]

19Th. Get tickets now. Goodbye. I am not going to tell you the name of this one, okay? Okay. Hello. MFM Team Day one Listener. First time writer. I've been waiting for an opportunity to write in. And when I heard you ask for people hiding in ceiling stories, I knew it was my time to.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Shine. I.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Know. People.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Hiding. Okay. I mean.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Sure. To set the scene, I was 20 years old and had come home from college for Thanksgiving. As a tradition, I met up with all my old high school friends at a local bar where the only form of ID required was the ability to verbally confirm that you were 21. Wow. Flash forward to a few hours and many drinks later when my old high school boyfriend caused a scene that did not involve me that led to the police being called. The bar was packed, which made it nearly impossible for us to scatter their underage. Several of us were rounded up and I immediately started planning my escape. I asked the officers if I could use the bathroom real quick drunk and me knew this was my only chance and I wasn't going to waste it. I went to the women's room but saw no window or other way out. Then I went to the men's room and as fate would have it, there was a hole in the ceiling. This sounds like Karen back in the day.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Possibly. Listen, you got to do something. You look for your escape hatches, right? Push it till the Very.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Limit. That's right. I promptly scaled the bathroom sink and crawled up into the drop ceiling, drunk by the. She was drunk, by the.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Way.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah. I probably should have stayed where I was, but I figured that the cops would come looking for me. I knew my only option was to continue crawling through the ceiling until I found some sort of exterior vent that I could kick out and escape through the parking.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Lot. She's just. She's just running Die Hard in her mind. Seriously, this is what I have to.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Do. It's gonna go great. Yeah. That is not how things went down. I actually made it an impressive distance through the ceiling, held up mostly by wires before I had a small misstep and my foot came through one of the flimsy panels. Unfortunately for me, this was directly over where the police were standing in the.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Bar.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Damn. They immediately shone their flashlights through the hol. Just. She's drunk. I wanna remind everyone. Like, that's my favorite.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Part. It gets all musty and hot.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Clothes. But she also thinks she's, like, brilliant and, like, doing it and kind.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Of has a little.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Electric. Yeah, like, my friends are gonna be so impressed. And then Lancelot's like, ma', am, can you get down from.

[Karen Kilgariff]

There? And then you're like, is it bleeding? It feels like it's.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Bleeding. They shine their flashlights through the hole and order me out of the ceiling. I asked how, and they said, back the way you came. So I had to crawl the 30 or so feet back through the ceiling. Ugh. So dirty. To where he exited. And was promptly arrested along with about 25 other underage people in the bar. She should have got doubly arrested for being so.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Stupid. Or she should have been freed for being so.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Genius. True. Fortunately, I was able to pay a fine for the underage drinking and wasn't charged with destruction of property. This story has become lore in my hometown, and I've had a few of my former teachers come up to tell me that they heard it through the grapevine and ask me if it really.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Happened. Yes, yes.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yes. This was almost 20 years ago, and I am happy to say I haven't found myself in the back of a cop car since. Stay sexy and don't deploy a mission impossible escape plan when you're three sheets to the wind.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Kate. Kate. Also, you're underage, so this is just you beginning your partying.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Career.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Right? This is an incredible.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Start.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Mm. It's so.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Brave. So.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Brave. Just go for.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It. Just do.

[Karen Kilgariff]

It. Just. Why.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Not? Like, if you have a chance, take it. It might not work out the way you think it.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Would. Right. But you will have a.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Story. You.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Will. And even if it hurts and even if you get arrested, what are we saying? Oh, this is.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Good. Don't listen to our.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Advice. Yeah, don't listen to anything except for this next email. And I'm not going to read you the subject line in all caps. It starts, it's my time to shine with a bunch of eyes and E's. Greetings and salutations. Growing up on a small hobby farm in southeastern Wisconsin just north of Milwaukee has its advantages. One of them being that as a child we would have an annual pig roast on our farm and invite family, friends and our one neighbor. Yes, the one neighbor whose property butted up to our field. This neighbor also happened to be our fifth grade teacher, a very kind older man who never married and took care of his father, who lived in a house next to his and shared a driveway with one of our field access roads. He would walk to our home through the field to come to the annual pig roast, often bringing his father as well. As one year he brought another gentleman about his age with him. He was clad in aviator sunglasses, a scruffy beard, a Packers baseball cap, and a deep, gravelly voice. He simply said his brother was in town and they thought they would come over to enjoy some beers, a freshly slaughtered and roasted pig, and good company. I know, it's.

[Georgia Hardstark]

So. The vegans.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Are. It's.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Rough.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah. Roasted, like in the ground. Pig roastings were a thing that I saw a lot as a.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Child. You did? That's like a thing on a.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Farm. It's like a thing. And it's like, like. It's like a reason to have a barbecue. But it's.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Different. Okay? Never in the suburbs. We don't usually dig a hole in the Astroturf.

[Karen Kilgariff]

And. Well, I'm sorry about.

[Georgia Hardstark]

That. I'm not. Not to the.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Pigs. No. It's really rough and pigs are so like.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Us. I know. They're so.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Cute. It's very sad. Okay. He simply stated that this was his old college roommate from Ripon College R I P O N. Assuming they roomed together freshman year and stayed in touch ever since. He happened to be in town for the EAA in Oshkosh, one of the world's largest gatherings of airplane enthusia featuring vintage World War I and 2 airplanes, the Blue Angels and other flying exhibitions. A few days later, our neighbor walked back through the field and was chatting with my dad in the front yard. We thought nothing of it since he was a teacher and had summers off. We thought maybe he needed some construction work done at his house. Since my dad often did little side jobs for people, Me and my brother scurried over to say hello. As visitors in the summer were few and far between. We came by just in time to listen to our teacher tell my dad that the man he brought to our pig roast was none other than Harrison.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Ford. That's. I was like, oh, it's his.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Lover. Whoever.

[Georgia Hardstark]

The.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Right. It's some sort. Finally he gets to be himself or.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Something. It's his boyfriend. He's like, oh, my friend. My college friend. It's Harrison.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Ford. It's Harrison Ford. And it's basically like, I'm a normal experience Sherpa for my old friend Harrison, who now lives in the weirdest world of all time. All he wants to do, stand in a backyard and drink a beer.

[Georgia Hardstark]

With. Not get.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Recognized. And they did.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It. Oh, my.

[Karen Kilgariff]

God. It's.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Okay. Cause Harrison Ford was a construction worker too. Like, that whole thing of him getting fucking discovered by being the hottest fucking construction worker that's ever.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Lived. I mean.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Okay.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Wild. Okay, wait. Our teacher wanted to thank my dad and our family for allowing him to just be a guy and hang out without prying and making a big deal about him being there. Since this teacher had had me and my brothers in class in the 90s, he knew we were all big fans of Star wars and Indiana Jones and was proud of us for not making it a big deal. In reality, we had no clue the man.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Was. Yeah, when you're a kid, you don't pay attention to adults. Like, that's the most boring thing in the.

[Karen Kilgariff]

World. But it sounds like they this like they were graduates from high.

[Georgia Hardstark]

School. Yeah, it does sound like they.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Were older, but they're just kind of like, oh, it's just a guy and that's fine. And it literally is Harrison.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Ford. Oh, my.

[Karen Kilgariff]

God. Standing around the.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Pigs. They're like, we would have bothered him. Are you fucking kidding.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Me? You get to bother.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Harrison.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Sorry. You're Han Solo.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Dude. You're Han Solo. You're fucking Indiana.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Jones. Indiana.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Jones. Like, come on. Okay, tell me more. I want to know.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Everything. I just started thinking about watching Raiders of the Lost Ark for the first time in the Plaza Theater downtown Petaluma, and how I was like, this.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Is. It's the best. It's the.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Best. He's amazing. Yeah, our dumb little kid brains could have cared less who our neighbor brought to the party since we were all jacked up on soda Ice cream and playing with friends and.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Cousins.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Right. Well, that's the story. Harrison Ford came to my house. Stay sexy and may the force be with you.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Natalie. Oh, my.

[Karen Kilgariff]

God. Natalie. So good.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Natalie. So.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Good. Oh.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Shit. That's one of the big ones. And they didn't know. I wonder if the parents.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Knew. I.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Know. They must.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Have. Or maybe the parents were just old enough to kind of not be that familiar with it. They were like kind of hippies.

[Georgia Hardstark]

That were like, here's this.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Guy.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah. Fucking.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Amazing. They were anti pop culture. What would you say if Harrison Ford was a drop by at a party that you had or a side guest?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Okay. Introduce yourself as Harrison.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Ford. Hello, I'm Harrison.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Ford. Oh, hey. Wow. Nice to meet you. Big fan. That's.

[Karen Kilgariff]

It. Perfect. Perfectly done with a little finger to say, we're done.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Now. That's.

[Karen Kilgariff]

It. That's.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It. I'm not gonna freak out, but, like, I'm gonna acknowledge that I know you're Harrison.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Ford. I'm drawing the line that I'm not freaking out right.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Now. Big fan. Well, I'm George Hardstark from My favorite.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Merchant. Oh, wait a second. My daughter told me about.

[Georgia Hardstark]

That. Okay, this will.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Last. You want me to do.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It? Okay. Yeah. What would you do? Hi, I'm.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Here. Hi, I'm.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Here. Stop.

[Karen Kilgariff]

It. Just scream into Real cool. I love to scream. Right into people's.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Faces. Especially famous.

[Karen Kilgariff]

People. They love it. On December 19, based on the bestselling novel the Housemaid, Amanda Seyfried and Sydney Sweeney star in a wildly entertaining and twisted thriller where perfection is an illusion and nothing is as it.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Seems. Trying to escape her past, Millie, played by Sydney Sweeney, accepts a job as a live in housemaid for the wealthy couple Nina and Andrew Winchester, played by Amanda Seyfried and Brandon.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Sklenar. What begins as a dream job quickly unravels into something far more dangerous. A sexy, seductive game of secrets, scandal and.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Power. The Housemaid is full of shocking twists that will leave you guessing until the very.

[Karen Kilgariff]

End. Can you keep a.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Secret? The Housemaid is a theatrical experience you do not want to.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Miss. The Housemaid Rated R. Only in theaters December.

[Georgia Hardstark]

19Th. Get tickets now.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Goodbye. This show is sponsored by Midi.

[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

Goodbye. Family stories don't always get passed down. Even the ones that matter.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Most. That's why Storyworth Memoirs is an important gift for loved ones this holiday.

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[Karen Kilgariff]

Ago. They have over 48,000 five star reviews on Trustpilot, Wirecut, the Strategist, CNN, Fox News, and more. Agree Storyworth is the perfect gift for people you love.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Most. It really is such a good gift because we all want to know our family stories, the important ones, the loved ones for years to come. And you can't just ask them the question. You're gonna get it wrong. You're gonna forget. You have to like get it down. And Storyworth does it, but in a really beautiful layout in a really beautiful.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Way. Yeah. They give you these prompts that make it really easy for you to interview your family. Yeah, they like ask the questions so that the story comes.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Out. Give your loved ones a unique keepsake you'll all cherish for.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Years. Storyworth Memoirs right now save $10 or more during their holiday sale when you go to storyworth.com mfm that's storyworth.com.

[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

Order.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Goodbye. Okay, this is a follow up to one of the stories I did recently about the girl who her cat died. She went out to the like, war effort to say goodbye with it and ended up throwing it into the fucking water. And then she saw the coast Guard, like, come grab her poor cat's.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Body.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Right. Remember the cat's name was.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Jaffe.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah. So this is a response to that. Dear Karen, Georgia, an MFM crew, including animals. I speak for all Murderinos when I say we love you and everything you do. You are the friends in our ears throughout every phase of.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Life. I'm feeling a butt.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Coming. Yeah, Right. Today I was listening to Minisode 463 and the story about Jaffe the Cat's botched water burial. While the story was humorous, I found my heart breaking for her mom, the cat's mom, especially with my own cat purring happily on my lap as I listened. First, I want to discourage anyone from making the same innocent mistake. For obvious reasons, finding unclaimed animal remains can incite a whole fighting ring and or animal abuse.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Investigation. Oh.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Shit. Second, as a veterinarian, I did want to offer Jaffe's mom some salt. When domestic animals remains are found and unclaimed, the police take them to the local shelter where they are cremated. So, botched Viking attempt aside, your baby was still cremated. Cause remember, she was like, they threw it onto the fucking. Into, you know, the trash or whatever.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yes. No, that's great. They took care of.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It. I hope Jaffe's mom can rest a little easier knowing that her baby was still cared for in the way she wanted. And as a response to Karen and George's plug for where have we been? Stories, remember? Like, where do you listen to us? You have been in my ear as I travel for work all over the world, with the coolest place being fieldwork in South Africa as myself and my collaborators work to investigate the impacts of infectious diseases on African lion.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Populations.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Whoa. So, yes, by extension, you have worked with a few hundred lions. She's a.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Veterinarian. That's.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Incredible. Anyway, thanks for all that you do. Love and hugs to the MFM crew and especially to Jaffee's mom.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Heather. Heather. That was really nice to support in that moment as a professional, to step forward and say, quiet down.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Everybody. Two things. Don't ever do that again. Yes, it was absolutely a mistake, and here's.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Why. And don't worry about.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It. But also, you're forgiven and it's.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Okay, and you kind of got what you wanted. Ultimately, yes. Okay, here's my last one. This is a trash parent story to beat all trash parent.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Stories. Oh, my God.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Okay. Hello, ladies. I love the pod. I've been listening since 2018, when my high school ceramics teacher recommended your podcast. Hey, thank you, Ms. Warner. My sister and I were the type of children that my mom had to ask not to talk about dead things before her friends came over. We still did and still do. I love this community. Anyway, the story I have for you isn't morbid, but a trash mom story. I don't think my mom was a trash parent, but my sister and I were the youngest after five older.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Siblings. Oh, wow. Yeah. She was done at number three.

[Karen Kilgariff]

And now it's like she went to seven. Dang. So our complaints were not exactly taken seriously. Like, the second time, I broke my leg on our.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Trampoline. Oh, my.

[Karen Kilgariff]

God. My mom didn't believe me. My mom didn't believe me and made me get off the trampoline by myself and walk it.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Off. Walk off your broken.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Leg. After taking one step and immediately collapsing, I was taken to the hospital and then forbidden from ever touching the trampoline.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Again. Oh, my God. How many broken bones does seven children bring you? You like? It's like every week. Every week, someone's breaking a.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Bone. Oh, you're constantly in the.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Er.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah. And you're not scared anymore. It's like you've become like an ER nurse yourself. Yeah. That rule, of course, did not apply to my siblings, so it's like victim blaming. So every summer for the rest of my childhood, I got to sit on the grass and watch them jump around happily without me. No punished. But this story isn't about me. Another accident happened on the same backyard.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Trampoline. Those are so fucking.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Dangerous. They really are. I mean, but they're also so.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Fun. Yeah, but.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yes. Well, but okay. My older brother was jumping while holding my sister, and accidentally. And then in parentheses, it says, probably intentionally dropped her on her back. She burst into tears and wouldn't move. My parents carried her to the couch and told her to rest. Even though she insisted something was wrong. They didn't believe her, and life went on even as she complained for years about back pain and limited mobility. What? Flash forward to when she was 16. She got into a sledding accident where she flew off a jump and crashed hard. After a couple hours of labored breathing, my mom finally called my paramedic dad. Wait, okay, maybe he became one after all of those hospitalizations. Okay. My mom called my paramedic dad, who told her to take my sister to the hospital immediately. Finally, there they took scans and discovered she had broken her sternum in the.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Crash. Sternum okay. In the crash, she broke her.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Sternum.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yes. Okay.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Ow. Oh, my God, that hurts so.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Bad. Yeah. Can't breathe. You can't take a.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Breath? Probably her knee hit her chest and cracked it. That's.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Intense. Oh, my.

[Karen Kilgariff]

God. But when the doctor delivered the news, he added, I thought you said your daughter had never broken a bone before. My mom replied, she hasn't. Well, the doctor said in the X rays we took, we found old fractures in her back. That's right. My sister broke her back at 10 years old and wasn't treated until she was.

[Georgia Hardstark]

16. Oh, my.

[Karen Kilgariff]

God. My parents are divorced and my dad loves to bring up all the injuries that happened on her watch. But my sister complained to him too, and he also brushed her.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Off. And he was a fucking paramedic, so he should have known.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Better. And he was a paramedic and.

[Georgia Hardstark]

He still let them have a.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Trampoline. You don't go over and at least do one of those. Like, how does this.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Feel? One, two, one, two. You're.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Fine. Yeah. Can you see this finger? Yeah, no, my back is broken. Can you see this.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Finger? Who fucking blaming.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Me? Stay off the fucking trampoline. Cheers to my strong ass sister, who, side note, walked up that snowy hill by herself after she broke her sternum so my mom would stop freaking out. No.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Tears. Oh my.

[Karen Kilgariff]

God. And then it just says, anyway, be aware of trampolines. Ssdgm.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Aj. Aj. Great. Email everyone. Send us, you and your siblings, injuries, like your childhood fucked up injuries that, like, nobody paid attention.

[Karen Kilgariff]

To.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yes. I want those so.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Bad. My sister fully broke her wrist and my mom was like, when she wouldn't stop crying, my mom goes, fine, put a cold compress on.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It. She was a.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Nurse.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yep. Vince absolutely was chased through the sliding glass door by his brother, whose brother was chasing him with, like a knife or something, of course, and, like, broke his arm and, you know, like, get over.

[Karen Kilgariff]

It. That happened to my. My friend Christine got chased through the sliding glass door. And like, it's that thing where, like, everybody's fighting and you think this one thing has happened and suddenly it's like, holy.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Shit. Everyone stops to be like, where's the blood coming.

[Karen Kilgariff]

From? Yes. The kids have to, like, how do we make it so mom doesn't find out we just broke the sliding glass door.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah. So hilarious. Childhood injuries. Right Is what we.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Want. We need the people who they happen to to be okay today.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yes. Yes.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yes. That's for.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Us. Yes. Thanks.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Guys. Amazing.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Bitch. Great job.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Everyone. Thank you so much for sending those in. If you have stories, please send them to my favorite murdermail dot.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Com. That's.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Right. And stay sexy and don't get murdered. Oh, I never say that part. That's.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Why. Oh yeah, I know. But yes, she's so.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Right. Goodbye.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Goodbye. Elvis. Do you want a.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Cookie? This has been an exactly right pretty.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Production. Our senior producer is Molly Smith and our associate producer is Tessa.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Hughes. Our editor is Aristotle.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Lasedo. This episode was mixed by Liana.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Squalachi. Email your hometowns to my favorite.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Murder gmail.com follow the show on Instagram at my favorite.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Murder. Listen to my favorite murder on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Podcasts. Or Watch us on YouTube. Search for my favorite murder and then like and subscribe. Goodbye. You know what a girl's best.

[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

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[Georgia Hardstark]

Miss. Make it rig showtime, ladies. Stand up straight and breeze into that room like a storm no one saw.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Coming. Hulu Original Series All's fair now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney plus for bundle.

[Georgia Hardstark]

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