MFM Minisode 474

Summary

My Favorite Murder Minisode 474 Summary

Podcast: My Favorite Murder
Hosts: Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Date: February 9, 2026
Theme: Listener “hometown” stories featuring surprising true crime finds, family mysteries, and heartfelt tales of connection and love—perfectly timed for Galentine’s and Valentine’s Day.

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Overview

In this Valentine's/Galentine's-themed minisode, Karen and Georgia read a series of wild, moving, and sometimes hilarious listener-submitted stories. These include a chilling discovery of infamous killer letters, a supernatural best friend connection, family secrets unearthed, hidden Depression-era treasures, and a couple of sweet love stories—one involving the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile. Through it all, the tone is warm, funny, supportive, and sometimes irreverent.

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Key Stories & Discussion Points

1. Murderino Jackpot: Letters from Serial Killers

[02:10 - 07:22]

• Listener’s sister buys a dresser off Facebook Marketplace. Two letters fall out—one from Dennis Rader (the BTK killer), the other from Keith Jesperson (the Happy Face Killer).
• The dresser previously belonged to criminologist Laura Brand, known for her research and interviews with over 50 serial killers.
• Details from the Letters:
  • BTK’s letter: “He mostly rambles about money for stamps and complains about how long the mail takes, but the letter was sent on Valentine’s Day 2020.” (Karen, [04:33])
  • BTK mentions another serial killer, Bittaker, which chills Karen and Georgia.
  • Keith Jesperson’s seven-page letter includes “juicy” responses to personality questions (favorite book: The Old Man and the Sea; favorite animal: squirrel).
• Notable quote:
  • “To just be able to, like, read some insider baseball stuff. Yes.” (Georgia, [04:23])
  • “We have never covered the Toolbox Killer. Cause it is so disgusting and so insane that it’s truly one of the worst things I’ve ever read about.” (Karen, [05:06])
  • “Stay sexy and always check the drawers before selling your children's furniture.” (Listener, [06:43])
• Karen and Georgia riff on their distaste for the “fan mail” serial killers get, preferring the journalistic approach Laura Brand took.

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2. Galentine’s Sixth Sense: The Best Friend Connection

[07:29 - 10:22]

• Listener shares a supernatural “Best Friend Connection” (BFC) story: Had an unexplainable hunch her best friend Chrissy was in a car accident—just as a state trooper describes it at her workplace.
• She races to Chrissy’s house to make sure she’s okay; Chrissy had survived a serious accident.
• Notable Quotes:
  • “I have zero explanation as to how or why Christy and I have the BFC, but for the 23 years that we’ve been best friends, we’ve always known when one of us needs the other.” (Listener, [09:26])
  • “This Valentine/Galentine’s Day, remember that your soulmate doesn’t have to be your lover, your soulmate can be your best friend.” (Listener, [09:47])
• Karen and Georgia are deeply moved (“What an honor, too, as the friend to be like, oh my God. You knew when I was in trouble.” Karen, [10:16])

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3. Depression-Era Treasure Hunt

[12:34 - 16:14]

• Listener’s family discovers a hoard of cash and coins hidden in their great-grandmother’s home:
  • Coins sewn into curtains, pasted under chairs and wallpaper, jars of money hidden in the house and even buried in the yard.
  • Over $83,000 found, despite their grandmother living very frugally.
• Notable Quotes:
  • “Full on treasure hunt.” (Karen, [14:20])
  • “We tore the place apart searching for her treasure. Finding over… do you want to guess how much?” (Karen, [15:06])
  • “If you don’t have a deathbed confession, then you need to hide treasures for everyone to find.” (Georgia, [16:14])
• Discussion on Depression-era thriftiness and how trauma shapes behavior (“It’s so World War II to sew coins into the corner.” Karen, [15:56])

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4. Family Secrets: New Names, New Lives

[17:01 - 22:42]

• Story of “Grandma Betty,” a loving grandmother who concealed a big secret: her real name was Sarah Brownstein, and she was Jewish.
• She and her best friend “Dottie” ran away from Pittsburgh to LA in the 1940s, assumed new identities, and kept their Jewish heritage secret—even from their kids.
• After Betty’s death, the family uncovers her true origins and reconnects (in a twist, a descendant is sent on a Mormon mission to Ukraine, where family comes from).
• Notable Quotes:
  • “Somewhere along the way, Dottie swore that her friend was Elizabeth English, and grandma was able to get a new birth certificate and identity.” (Listener, [19:00])
  • “They rented a room together, got jobs as waitresses, and dated a lot of soldiers when the war ended. I can’t help but think of Black Dahlia in Los Angeles at that time.” (Georgia, [19:15])
  • “Stay sexy and always vouch for your best friend.” (Listener, [22:42])
• Karen and Georgia discuss women reinventing themselves and the weight of secrets.

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5. Interlude: Family Immigration Stories

[23:07 - 23:40]

• Both Karen and Georgia reflect briefly on their own grandmothers’ experiences as immigrants in the 20th century.

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6. Generational Love Story: Artist and Dancer

[25:31 - 28:18]

• Listener describes an epic love story: Her artist grandfather (“Pops”) survives WWII, skips out on roll call to visit art museums in Europe, and returns home to marry the town’s best dancer, Mary.
• They build a beautiful marriage, support their community, and every year for Valentine’s, Pops creates a custom sculpture for Grams.
• Notable Quote:
  • “For every year on Valentine’s Day, my Pops built my Grams a valentine sculpture. And when he had a museum collection, all 30-something of them were on display.” (Listener, [27:52])

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7. Hot Dog Love: The Wienermobile Romance

[28:26 - 29:40]

• Listener meets her eventual husband during a campus hot dog event; their best friend arranges a surprise wedding rehearsal ride in the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile.
• “Stay sexy and never say no to a free hot dog. Well, I don’t know. Use your best judgment, but you get the idea.” (Listener, [29:40])
• Karen and Georgia delightedly describe the wedding photo and reflect on the many forms love can take.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Georgia ([04:23]): “To just be able to, like, read some insider baseball stuff. Yes.”
• Karen ([05:06]): “We have never covered the Toolbox Killer. Cause it is so disgusting and so insane that it’s truly one of the worst things I’ve ever read about.”
• Listener ([09:47]): “This Valentine Galentine’s Day, remember that your soulmate doesn’t have to be your lover, your soulmate can be your best friend.”
• Georgia ([16:14]): “If you don’t have a deathbed confession, then you need to hide treasures for everyone to find.”
• Listener ([22:42]): “Stay sexy and always vouch for your best friend.”

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Important Timestamps

• [02:10] – The "Murderino Jackpot" dresser story begins.
• [07:29] – Supernatural “Best Friend Connection” accident story.
• [12:34] – Discovery of hidden Depression-era cash.
• [17:01] – Family secret: Grandma Betty and Dottie’s true identities.
• [25:31] – Generational love story: Pops and Grams.
• [28:26] – Hot Dog/Wienermobile romance story.

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Tone & Takeaway

The episode is classic MFM—balancing comic banter with poignant, moving moments. Whether chilling or touching, each story underscores the importance of connection, persistence, and curiosity (and sometimes, the value of always checking your furniture for hidden serial killer memorabilia).

End show mantra: “Stay sexy and don’t get murdered.”

Transcript

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Hello and welcome to my favorite Murder the Minisode. We read you your stories that come in email form.

[C]

Kind of Valentine's Day themed.

[A]

We have a big Gmail that you can send your stories to.

[C]

That's right, send them in. We love it. My favorite Murderer Gmail. Just like that.

[A]

We love it. Should I go first?

[C]

Sure.

[A]

The subject line of this email is we found the Murderino jackpot in our dresser. Hello Karen, Georgia, crew and pets. You are all wonderful. I'm a longtime listener from the pun title days and got my much younger sister into your podcast as well. Sorry Mom. That's what older sisters are for, right? Yes, that's true. So let's get to it. This week my sister picked up a dresser from Facebook Marketplace. When she got it into her room and opened the drawer, two letters fell out. She scanned one and read a sentence about a gruesome crime scene. She checked the return addresses on the envelopes. One was from Oregon State Penitentiary and the other was from San Quentin.

[C]

Jesus.

[A]

Your faces, like, started bright and slowly, like, sinking, like, oh, no. Yeah. She immediately brought the letters to my parents, and they FaceTimed me. The family margarita.

[C]

Nice.

[A]

All caps, you guys, period. She was holding letters from Dennis rader, who is BTK from him.

[C]

Okay.

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They wrote covered in episode 82.

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Just aw do their homework for us.

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Yep. And Keith Jesperson, the Happy Face Killer. Covered in episode 257.

[C]

Holy shit.

[A]

After some investigation on Facebook to figure out where this dresser had come from, we discovered the dresser belonged to the family of criminologist Laura Brand.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

She's written letters and interviewed over 50 serial killers to assess their personality traits. And she presented a research at CrimeCon in 2021.

[C]

I've definitely seen her on documentaries. She's great, for sure. Yeah.

[A]

This made us breathe easier knowing the dresser didn't belong to a killer. Laura's mother had apparently forgotten to check the drawers before selling the dresser to my sister.

[C]

Hmm.

[A]

That makes Laura sound like a high school investigator.

[C]

Nancy Drew over here.

[A]

I hope that Laura would be delighted to know these letters fell into the hand. Our mom reached out to her mom on Facebook to tell her, hey, we found these letters in your dresser and they seem important. To which she replied, oh, boy, I'm going to need those back for my daughter.

[C]

Don't fucking tell my daughter.

[A]

And then it says, of course. Before returning the letters, we read them thoroughly. Yeah, Here are the highlights, so.

[C]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Okay. This is real inside. Inside Tea.

[C]

This is too much. Okay. Cause I don't ever want to write to a fucking serial killer murderer ever. Ever. But, like, to just be able to, like, read some insider baseball stuff. Yes.

[A]

What it might be like. And I like the way they broke this down too. So it's btk had horrendous handwriting and we only had pages three and four of a four page letter. He mostly rambles about money for stamps and complains about how long the mail takes, but the letter was sent on Valentine's Day of 2020.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

And he asks Laura if she's received a valentine from Biddicker. I had to look up this name. That's one of the two Toolbox Killers.

[C]

Okay. Just like a whoms who of pieces of shit serial killers over here.

[A]

Yes. We have never covered the Toolbox Killer. Cause it is so disgusting and so insane that it's truly one of the worst things I've ever read about.

[C]

It's hopeless. It feels hopeless.

[A]

Laura was doing research on them for her documentary the Toolbox Killers, which was released on Peacock and oxygen in 2020. So this is a real journalist, you know, like, trying to get background information.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

As opposed to, like, what everybody always loves to talk about. The, like, the women at the Night Stalker case who were like, we want to marry him.

[C]

Fangirls. Yeah, yeah. This is a journalist.

[A]

Yeah. The documentary features personal accounts from survivors and family members, as well as Laura's relationship with Bittaker as she interviews him over the years. In this letter, BTK said he was familiar with Bittaker and he used to have a newspaper clipping of one of his crimes in his quote unquote, hidey hole. And then in parentheses it says his hidey hole. Shivers. The letter from Keith was seven pages long, and I must say he has decent handwriting, though the content was disturbing for most of the letter. He rants about someone who has written a book about his crimes, but he's pissed that they left out three of his murders.

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Oh, my God.

[A]

In my opinion, the juicy part is when he responds to a few of Lore's research questions that assess personality traits. His favorite book, the Old man and the Sea. What would you do with an invisible clo escape from prison? Favorite animal, squirrel. I'm not sure what to do with this information, but I knew I needed to share it with my fellow murderinos. Stay sexy and always check the drawers before selling your children's furniture. L and V. Holy shit.

[C]

How chilling.

[A]

We've said this on this podcast before, but I just am so not interested in their favorite animal or, like, I don't want to know about their thinking anymore than what we know about the crimes. And then like that idea where your personality and maybe like, how to get.

[C]

Prevent or find other, you know, killers. But I guarantee squirrel's not gonna be one of the ways you're gonna capture the next fucking serial killer, you know?

[A]

Well, unless there's some sort of signal or sign. I mean, like, they have to be holistic about it. I just don't wanna have to.

[C]

Totally, totally.

[A]

Cause it's not. It's just gross. I think we wanna read the books, obviously.

[C]

Right?

[A]

But the journalists have to process so much horror and gross stuff to get their story.

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Yeah, it's horrible. Okay, here is my first one. This is a Galentine's Day feel good. Best friend story. Nice. Hi, all. Let's get to it with Galentine's Day coming up, I'd like to share about the weird, supernatural, like, connection I have with Chrissy, my best friend of 23 years. And yes, that Best friend shit is capitalized. We met when we were 10 years old and we were inseparable. We've always called our bond the Best friend connection or just BFC for short. Anyway, the summer before my senior year in high school, I worked at our local subway and Chrissy would frequently drop in to visit me while I was working, as best friends in high school are want to do. One day I was working and a state trooper came in. He just so happened to mention that he'd come from the scene of a car accident on Lemoore Road where a car had flipped over and my BFC senses immediately started to tingle.

[A]

Oh no.

[C]

For reasons that I cannot explain to this day, I asked in a panic, was it a white Cavalier with black racing flags on the side? All the color drained out of his face and he said I shouldn't really be telling you this, but yes it was. How could you possibly know that that's my best friend's car? I was starting to freak out. I need to know if she's okay. She went to the hospital, but I think she's going to be fine, the trooper replied, still looking completely weirded out by my unexplained outburst. I ripped my apron off, threw it down, looked at my manager on duty and said, I'm leav. I booked out that door, jumped into my broke ass 1986 Buick and floored it to my best friend's house. I pounded on the front door until it opened. Chrissy and her mom looked at me with utter disbelief as I burst in and asked, are you okay? What happened? Chrissy explained that she'd been on her way to see me and her brakes had given out on a sharp curve on the back road she was driving on. She'd rolled her car a couple times and completely totaled it. She was fine other than having a concussion and being pretty shaken up.

[A]

That's crazy. Yeah, I would think that car would blow up on the first turn totally.

[C]

And you're home the same day. That's insane. But how did you know I was in an accident? She asked, clearly looking puzzled as Fuck. I explained that a straight trooper had come into Subway, described the accident. I just known that it was her and that she'd been coming to see me. I have zero explanation as to how or why Christy and I have the BFC, but for the 23 years that we've been best friends, we've always known when one of us needs the this Valentine Galentine's Day, remember that your soulmate doesn't have to be Your lover, your soulmate can be your best friend. Thanks for all y' all do. I love the podcast and I so appreciate how y' all are working to destigmatize getting help for mental health. It's so important. Ssdgm.

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Maggie, Maggie, Maggie. You have the sixth sense.

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Yeah.

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That what an honor, too.

[C]

Yeah.

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As the friend to be like, oh, my God. You knew when I was in trouble.

[C]

Yeah. You knew I needed you. Jesus.

[A]

Oh, that's really intense.

[C]

What if. Really, though, every time a trooper had come in, she'd be like, was it a cavalier? Was it a white cavalier? And that's just like one time out of 25. She was like, how did you know that?

[A]

Or it's the same trooper. And she's like, was it a Chevy minivan? Yes. And he's just having a total nervous breakdown. Okay.

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Hate it.

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Yeah, that's how it works.

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Yeah.

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Fast forward decades. We were moving from the tiny home to a nursing home and combing through her belongings. Horrible day. My brother, about 8 at the time, ran into the kitchen with a silver dollar asking if he could keep it. He had found it pasted to the bottom of the leg of a chair. Turns out it was a real silver dollar, but how weird for it to be pasted to the bottom of the chair, right? Could there be more? My family began to really explore the nooks and crannies of this house to see if she had hoarded away other little treasures. We found coins of various denominations sewn into curtains.

[C]

What?

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Sewn into curtain corners and under the legs of chairs. Bills of various denominations pasted under wallpaper and stacked between the countless butter tubs and cottage cheese tubs saved for decades.

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Oh my God.

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Full on treasure hunt.

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Yeah, it sounds amazing.

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We also found her hoard of the gummy orange slices she always gave us that were hard as raw. Still treasure. Judging by the open package in the pantry, we estimated she likely bought them in the 70s.

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Ew.

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Dear, here's your Old circus peanut.

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Oh God.

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Go run. Outside in the cellar, my dad noticed the walls and floor seemed uneven. Knowing the home was going to be demolished, we got permission from the owner to chip away at the walls and floor. All caps. Dozens of jars of coins and bills were tucked away.

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Oh, thank God. They fucking found me.

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I know. For real. Oh my God. My uncle brought over a metal detector and we searched the yard. There were hundreds of jars.

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Jesus.

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Various size. Full of money.

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How fun, right?

[A]

We tore the place apart searching for her treasure. Finding over. Do you want to guess how much?

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$25,083,000. Holy shit.

[A]

So good. This woman lived like a pauper her whole. Taking half her prescribed meds so she could stretch the prescription further. Paying $35 a month in rent even though her rent was far more. Refusing to pay for a home phone. Never buying a meal at a restaurant. No luxuries whatsoever. Unless you consider $2 boxed crayon red hair dye a luxury. My grandma had like fake red hair dye too.

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Oh my God, I love it.

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All while squirreling away 83k. Needless to say, we were all blown away.

[C]

I wish she had taken care of herself a little.

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I know, but I think you get into that gear and it's hard to get out.

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I know. My grandma didn't.

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It's so World War II to sew coins into the corner.

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Totally. Because that's like.

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Yeah, it just happened.

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Yeah.

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Like it just. It's such near history.

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Yeah.

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Okay. Stay sexy. And if you're ever cleaning out your grandparents home, always check for squirreled away treasure. Lori.

[C]

Okay, here's the new thing. If you don't have a deathbed confession, then you need to hide treasures for everyone to find.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Like make it a. A deathbed scavenger hunt. It's way better than a deathbed confession.

[A]

And you don't have to have it. Yeah. Like saying if you don't have the treasure, but when someone passes away, the orange slices they gave you from the seventies becomes the treasure.

[C]

It could be like a notes that you tuck in, places that they find like treasure hunt kind of stuff. It doesn't have to be money.

[A]

No, it's like me getting the bell lady for Christmas and having a full nervous breakdown where it's like the bell lady probably costs $7.

[C]

No, totally.

[A]

But that's the idea.

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Treasure hunt, treasure hunt. Deathbed treasure hunt from Grandma's. Do you have a deathbed treasure hunt story? Tell us. Yfavoritemurdermail.

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We're trying to create our own reality.

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Okay. Speaking of deathbed, treasure hunt, confession, y type of thing. Here is a family secret with gal pals Betty and Dottie. I'm a huge fan of the podcast Y u g E. I love that. Let's go. I wanted to write in about my paternal grandma, who always love spending time with the six of us grandkids. She showered us with kisses and love. She never missed a birthday. She sent Valentine's cards mailed separately to each of us. She gave us the best Christmas gifts, always had cookies and pop for us when we visited, and she never left the house without her lipstick. She sent us seized candy boxes on Easter and Christmas. And when I was a teenager, she would call and ask me, how's your love life? Even in her 60s, Grandma Betty would ride all the scariest roller coasters in extreme water slides with us, laughing the entire time.

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Even in her 60s, I know it hurts when her whole body could have broken in half. In her 60s.

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Starting to feel it. Okay. Her name was Elizabeth English. My mom and dad often asked her about her life as a child, but she was always quiet about it. She gave a name or two of her relatives, but would change the subject if we asked anything else. This was not acceptable for us. A large Mormon family who wanted to do our genealogy like good Mormons do. Really big on that.

[A]

They love it.

[C]

Somehow the answer to these questions about her past eluded us until her passing in the early 1990s. That's when we got ahold of a box of old photos that we didn't recognize. And after some investigating, her brother, Dad's uncle Bill, told us the truth. Grandma Betty's name was not Betty at all, nor was it English. It was Sarah Brownstein.

[A]

Hmm.

[C]

Our family was shocked to find out that Grandma Betty, along with her best friend Dottie, had run away from her home in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, to escape her strict Jewish. Whoa. They collaborated on an escape to get as far away from home as they could, Winding up in Los angeles in the 1940s.

[A]

Unbelievable.

[C]

What a time. Somewhere along the way, Dottie swore that her friend was Elizabeth English, and grandma was able to get a new birth certificate and identity. That's all you have to do is, like, bring a friend and be, like, back then. This is.

[A]

No, I swear to God.

[C]

That's who this is.

[A]

It's Liz English.

[C]

They rent. They rented a room together, got jobs as waitresses, and dated a lot of soldiers when the war ended. I can't help but think of Black Dog, like, in Los Angeles at that time.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

That's just crazy.

[A]

And Just the newness of women being out on their own.

[C]

Totally.

[A]

For the turn of the century and after. It's just like very few women did it.

[C]

No. They each married and had families and always lived near each other. They had barbecues on Sundays. Their kids grew up like cousins. It's like you. And neither one ever told anyone, including their husbands and kids, about grandma's former identity.

[A]

So that's a whole family that's finding out they are Jewish. Cause totally. It's passed down through the mother.

[C]

And it's really surprising to me that she became Mormon and not like, just not, you know, kind of non denominational. It's like just. It's huge. And then not to tell.

[A]

I wonder if there was a danger element to her past where she's like, I'm gonna go deep undercover.

[C]

Totally. I'm sure, you know, any conservative religion is not one that you're stoked to be a woman in.

[A]

Right? You know, easy to get away from.

[C]

Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Of course. My dad wanted to talk to Uncle Bill for some more details about his mother's previous life. So many questions about his own heritage. And why didn't Bill or anyone else go looking for her? Did she ever write home? Who else in the family is still alive? My dad and mom flew out to see Uncle Bill with their box of photographs, anxious to piece the story together and find out as many secrets as possible. As Bill was mowing the lawn at his home on the day my folks were set to visit, he collapsed and died of a heart attack hours before they arrived.

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Same day.

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Yes.

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That's horrible.

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And so what I know now here's an additional twist. My brother, who was 19 at the time Grandma Betty died, was preparing to go on a Mormon mission. You may know that missionaries do not get to choose where they serve. It's up to the higher ups to send them basically anywhere in the world. My brother was sent to Donetsk, Ukraine, the very place where my great grandfather Brownstein was a rabbi. What? My family is no longer Mormon, but I have to think that there was something that guided us to connect with our distant family in that way. My parents were able to fly to Ukraine to not only pick up my brother after he served his two year mission, but also tour the village where the Bronstein family lived before FL to the US Fiddler on the Roof style.

[A]

Holy.

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I know this is an epic story.

[A]

It's the power of Judaism drawing those Mormons in saying, no, no, no, you're with us.

[C]

And none of this could happen until, like, grandma died. Cuz Grandma was. Yeah, you know what I mean? It's like open this whole Pandora's box.

[A]

And she had the guts to start a new life. So it's like everyone was like, let her do it, don't bust her, don't.

[C]

She left them a treasure hunt. Oh, she did, didn't she?

[A]

It's a theme.

[C]

Just leave enough info for that. They can do some searching. And it was the 90s, so it wasn't like you can go online and just put your fucking DNA up in.

[A]

There and have your data farmed and.

[C]

Let AI fucking own you, tell you how to live. Our dear friend Dottie passed away in 2020. And we got a chance to talk with her about her friendship with my grandma Betty before she died. With a twinkle in her eyes, she said Betty was the best friend that any person could ever have. After Dottie passed, it became known that she too was of Jewish descent, but told no one. I have to wonder what her name could have been before running off across the country with her best friend. Stay sexy and always vouch for your best friend, Joanne. She her.

[A]

It's so good.

[C]

Isn't it good?

[A]

Yes. They're like, fuck this shit, we're out of here, we're starting over.

[C]

I'm not gonna be marrying whoever my parents want me to marry. I'm fucking out.

[A]

I'm out of here. And what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go marry a six foot tall, towheaded blonde man, the opposite of anything I've ever seen before in my life.

[C]

Totally, totally.

[A]

And not drink coffee.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And not smoke cigarettes.

[C]

Yeah. That's rough.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

I know.

[A]

It just makes me think of my grandmother who came to this country when she was 17 with her older sister and her younger sister.

[C]

Yeah, my grandma is similar, contentious. It's just. How terrifying.

[A]

So terrifying.

[C]

Not speaking any English. Well, yours is like. Mine's different, but it's like not English in the same way.

[A]

They were farm girls from, you know, the country in Ireland. It's like they came to New York City.

[C]

Totally.

[A]

And then went, fuck this place. We're going to San Francisco. Which is so awesome.

[C]

I know. Mine were like, la, let's fucking do it.

[A]

Let's do it. Let's go where the action is.

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Hell yeah.

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What can't you do? Visit Capella. Edu to learn more. Well, we'll wrap it up. There's a little bit more grandparent theme here in our Valentine's Day show. The subject line of this is the greatest goddamn love story you've ever heard for Valentine's. It says, hi friends. My great grandmother, aka grams, was born three months prematurely in Hollywood, Texas in the early 1900s.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

No one thought she would live, so she wasn't issued a birth certificate three months back.

[C]

I mean, three months now is a very big deal. Three months, then. Jesus.

[A]

And then in parentheses it says this isn't super relevant, but I think it's funny. And it caused her later in life. My pops was born in Oklahoma around the same time. His mother died as a result of childbirth. And her family, the Studebaker's in parentheses. Yes, like the car company still salty at all. Those rich folks three generations later disowned him. So they're from the Studebaker family, but they were like, you're out.

[C]

Holy shit.

[A]

His father left and he was raised by his paternal grandmother. She recognized his artistic talent at a young age and snuck him into adult art classes as a child. Anyway, my popular joined the army during World War II and became a pilot. He was a nut. And during his training, he would fly the planes under bridges, doing barrel rolls. Honestly, I'm lucky that my lifeline didn't end there. On the boat on his way to Europe, my wild child of a pops moved up to the captain's quarters and drew caricatures of the officers. When roll was called in the section he was supposed to be in, he did not answer, and it was assumed he had died on the way over. Instead of clarifying the situation, my pops went AWOL and traveled around Europe, going to different art museums.

[C]

Oh my God.

[A]

Okay, Forrest Gump. We have a copy of a famous painting in my home, which he told my father, his first grandson, that he had illegally built a mold for when he visited the Louvre. Here comes the love story. When my pops came home, he went to someone and asked who the best dancer in town was.

[C]

Best dancer?

[A]

Uh huh.

[C]

That's cute.

[A]

He was told that the soda jerk down the road, Mary, was the best dancer around. My grams didn't want anything to do with him because he was was a quote unquote, cocky hotshot. So, long story short, that's how the greatest partnership was born. My Grams and pops were a perfect pair. She was the perfect grounding force to his artistic mind and his lifelong muse. He was an art professor at many colleges, and they brought his students into their home as though they were their own. They traveled the United States, they were staunch social advocates for the LGBTQ people and introduced my father to his native culture. For every year on Valentine's Day, my pops built my Grams a valentine sculpture. And when he had a museum collection, all 30 something of them were on display.

[C]

Oh my God.

[A]

I was so lucky to know both of them and have such an amazing love story in my family tree. Thank you for this podcast. I'm writing this currently on the treadmill, trying to blow off steam from law school finals. This show has brought me joy in what seems to have been a very challenging journey with school. P.S. law School sucks. But I'm excited to get into the world and do good work. Say sexy and ask your family for family history. Siobhan. She her.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Sweet.

[C]

Who's the best dancer in town?

[A]

Who's the best dancer in town? I'm gonna date her.

[C]

I have one more short cute love story.

[A]

Great.

[C]

A hot dog love story, actually.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

My first day as a college freshman, I met a cute guy at a social event with free hot dogs. We became friends, then more than friends, then dated, and eventually got engaged. One of our mutual best friends was a hot dogger, meaning drove the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile for a year right out of college. They're called hot doggers and in addition to the amazing hot dog merch she shared with us, she really came through for us for our wedding rehearsal dinner a couple years later. Our hot dog love story had always been a huge part of our friend group's lore, and although she had retired from the wiener life by this time, she still had some clout with the current regional hot doggers. She arranged for the wiener mobile to pick me and my husband up from our wedding rehearsal location and drive us to our rehearsal universal dinner in the fucking wiener movie.

[A]

That's big.

[C]

It was so fucking funny and is still one of the best and most thoughtful surprises. Love you, Jenny. Just look at how happy our little goofy asses look in this pic. Our hot dog love story is going strong after eight years of marriage, five pets and two precious little kids. Stay sexy and never say no to a free hot dog. Well, I don't know. Use your best judgment, but you get the idea.

[A]

Oh, so cute.

[C]

How cute is that?

[A]

They also look like little babies, don't they? Yes, they're so.

[C]

Oh, they are so little.

[A]

They're so young and cute.

[C]

It's them posing outside the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile with little, like, cardboard cutouts of hot dogs over their, like, fancy clothes.

[A]

There's so many ways to express love, ladies and gentlemen. Truly hot dogs, old people, hidden money, treasure, treasure and staying sexy.

[C]

And don't get murdered.

[A]

Happy Valentine's Day. Goodbye, Elvis.

[C]

Do you want a cookie?

[A]

This has been an exactly right production.

[C]

Our senior producer is Molly Smith and our associate producer is Tessa Hughes.

[A]

Our editor is Aristotle Acevedo.

[C]

This episode was mixed by Liana Squillace.

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Goodbye.

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[A]

We're back for season four to talk to some incredible small business owners.

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The big thing about working at tech is that it's ever evolving, ever changing. Everyone's a rookie, that's how fast the industry is changing. So what I'm really excited about is to be part of that change.

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