Black People Were Here First! (with Lamorne Morris) - My Momma Told Me

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Podcast Summary: "Black People Were Here First! (with Lamorne Morris)"

Podcast Information:

Title: My Momma Told Me
Host/Author: Big Money Players Network and iHeartPodcasts
Episode: Black People Were Here First! (with Lamorne Morris)
Release Date: February 25, 2025
Description: Comedians Langston Kerman and David Gborie delve into intriguing Black conspiracy theories, exploring both lighthearted and profound topics with engaging guests.

1. Introduction to the Episode

The episode titled "Black People Were Here First!" features a special guest, Lamorne Morris, renowned actor and comedian known for his roles in "New Girl" and "Fargo." The hosts, Langston Kerman and David Gborie, set the stage for a deep dive into groundbreaking and sometimes controversial Black conspiracy theories, aiming to uncover narratives that challenge mainstream historical accounts.

2. Guest Introduction

Timestamp: 08:38 - 09:07

Serena Pitt:
"Our guest today is Jared L. We haven't done any formalities, but we're so happy he's here. He's a phenomenal actor, comedian, writer. You know him from New Girl, you know him from Fargo, you know him from so many phenomenal shows. He has his own podcast, multiple podcasts. He's a man of so many talents. Give it up for Lamarne Morris, everybody."
[09:07]

Lamorne Morris humorously remarks on the lack of applause in their setting, highlighting the intimate nature of the recording.

3. Exploring the Main Conspiracy Theory: "Black People Were Here First"

Timestamp: 09:37 - 15:00

Lamorne Morris introduces his primary theory inspired by discussions with Hotep Jesus on Joe Rogan's podcast. He posits that Black people existed in America long before the commonly accepted arrival of Native Americans via the Bering Land Bridge. Morris challenges the traditional narrative by suggesting that instead of solely relying on documented slave trade numbers, Black populations may have already been present and subsequently conquered by other groups.

Notable Quotes:

Lamorne Morris:
"People usually don't say it, and I like to shock them... I think maybe we were here already and just got conquered, slowly conquered."
[11:00]
Serena Pitt:
"I think this has a bigger sort of, like, influence than maybe the language suggests."
[10:08]

The hosts discuss the implications of this theory, debating its potential to reshape understanding of American history and its impacts on societal structures today.

4. Critique of Traditional Historical Narratives

Timestamp: 14:00 - 20:00

The conversation shifts to the inadequacies of public education in conveying comprehensive Black history. The hosts argue that current historical accounts are often one-sided, written by the victors, and lack depth regarding the rich and diverse contributions of Black individuals throughout history.

Notable Quotes:

Podcast Host 1:
"History is written by the victors. That's how it works."
[14:52]
Lamorne Morris:
"Our public school educations are not sufficient in sort of giving anybody a full history."
[14:15]

The discussion emphasizes the need for a more inclusive historical narrative that acknowledges the presence and influence of Black populations long before European settlers.

5. Extension into Other Conspiracy Theories

Timestamp: 41:22 - 66:59

Lamorne Morris expands his theory to include claims that Black people originally settled various parts of Europe, including Ireland, France, Russia, and Bosnia. He suggests that these populations were systematically erased or marginalized by later powers, such as Stalin in Russia, to suppress their dominant presence.

Notable Quotes:

Lamorne Morris:
"Black people were the main folks in Russia, and then Stalin did ethnic cleansing in Russia and basically eliminated the remaining Black population."
[43:46]
Serena Pitt:
"It feels possible, at least to me, that the total American footprint would be much more complicated than what's being presented."
[43:21]

The hosts critically examine these assertions, questioning their validity and the evidence supporting them. They explore how such theories, if true, would dramatically alter perceptions of global history and Black empowerment.

6. The Role of Pop Culture and Cultural Appropriation

Timestamp: 67:03 - 72:55

The conversation transitions to the influence of Black pop culture globally and concerns about cultural appropriation. The hosts discuss the potential loss of cultural ownership as global markets and other cultures adopt and adapt Black cultural elements without acknowledgment or respect.

Notable Quotes:

Serena Pitt:
"Why you hate Africa so much? Because we are watching our last true recognized value be usurped by someone else."
[71:15]
Podcast Host 1:
"Once pop culture cachet runs out, we're cooked."
[70:43]

They emphasize the importance of maintaining cultural integrity and the challenges posed by globalization and the internet, which facilitate the rapid spread and dilution of cultural symbols and practices.

7. Concluding Thoughts and Call to Action

Timestamp: 72:53 - 73:26

As the episode nears its end, the hosts reflect on the broader implications of accepting or dismissing such conspiracy theories. They highlight the intrinsic value of diverse historical narratives and advocate for a collective effort to enrich and diversify the historical discourse.

Notable Quotes:

Serena Pitt:
"History does not start and stop where the history books have told us and certainly cannot be trusted to remain in the hands of the people that gave it to us in the first place."
[72:59]

The episode concludes with the hosts encouraging listeners to engage critically with historical information, continuously seek knowledge, and contribute to an inclusive understanding of history.

8. Outro and Teasers for Future Episodes

Following the main discussion, the hosts brief listeners on upcoming projects and events, promoting their social media channels and encouraging audience interaction through sharing personal conspiracy theories.

Notable Quotes:

Serena Pitt:
"If you want to send us your own drops show... you can send it all to mamapodmail.com we would love to hear from you."
[75:34]

Final Thoughts:

This episode of "My Momma Told Me" offers a provocative exploration of alternative historical theories surrounding the presence and contributions of Black people in America and beyond. Through engaging dialogue and critical questioning, the hosts and Lamorne Morris encourage listeners to rethink established narratives and consider the complexities of history from multiple perspectives.

Notable Themes:

Reevaluation of historical timelines and narratives
The impact of education on historical understanding
Cultural appropriation and the preservation of Black cultural identity
The role of pop culture in shaping global perceptions

Recommendations for Listeners:

Engage with diverse historical sources beyond traditional curricula
Reflect on the influence of cultural appropriation in everyday life
Participate in conversations that challenge mainstream historical accounts

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Podcast Host 1
Was talking to a white guy and he said he just found out he has, like, a higher percentage of caveman blood than most. Yeah, and he's crazy looking.
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Serena Pitt
What the fuck does that mean?
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Podcast Host 1
I don't know. I gotta text him.
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DSW Advertiser
I, I, he has a phone. He has a hard time working stone and metal.
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Podcast Host 1
He actually had to get him a jitterbug.
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Serena Pitt
He got four numbers. Gotta change them out when you make a new friend. The government growing babies, microchips in your anus. All koala bears are racist. The ozone layer owes me money. Marshall's invented turkey stuffing.
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Podcast Host 1
Y'all can't tell me nothing. The frail shit Cause when my coat comes in, they gotta use the scale that they weigh the whales with. Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My.
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Serena Pitt
Mama Told Me, the podcast, where we dive deep, deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories, and we finally work.
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Podcast Host 1
To prove the conspiracies of anyone and everyone.
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Serena Pitt
Everybody.
[03:20]
Podcast Host 1
Everybody.
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Serena Pitt
We're rooting for every conspirator who's black.
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Podcast Host 1
Yeah. And some of the Asians. This is a difficult time politically for all of us.
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Serena Pitt
We gotta link up, y'all.
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Podcast Host 1
You know what I've been thinking about?
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Serena Pitt
Yeah.
[03:34]
Podcast Host 1
Trump is talking about DEI with the pilots. How come nobody's talking about DEI with the bag handlers?
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DSW Advertiser
Whoa.
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Podcast Host 1
Maybe we get some white guys in there. Maybe it's not all Nigerians and Jamaicans.
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DSW Advertiser
Whoa.
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Podcast Host 1
Right.
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DSW Advertiser
If we got white guys in there, then I ain't got to worry about my Jordans.
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Podcast Host 1
Come on.
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DSW Advertiser
They don't know. They don't know how rare these, you know.
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Podcast Host 1
Yeah. They're looking for hokas.
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DSW Advertiser
You know how many pair of custom Air Force ones I lost while going through Atlanta?
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Serena Pitt
Yeah.
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DSW Advertiser
Yeah.
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Serena Pitt
Cutest place to lose them.
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DSW Advertiser
Interesting. I didn't lose this shit when I.
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Serena Pitt
Went in Nebraska, untouched in North Dakota.
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Podcast Host 1
Also. It's just not a lot of white people who work at the airport off the planes.
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Serena Pitt
I feel like it is the most glaring sort of relationship of poverty and wealth. It feels like in looking at the hierarchy of the airport.
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DSW Advertiser
Really?
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Serena Pitt
I think so.
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Podcast Host 1
You don't think that.
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DSW Advertiser
No, I really haven't paid attention. You know what I mean?
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Podcast Host 1
You don't notice that it's always foreign people with the wheelchairs.
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DSW Advertiser
Oh.
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Podcast Host 1
Like, when you get off and they got the. Or they come and get em. It's always foreigners.
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Serena Pitt
Yeah. It feels like a true caste system.
[04:40]
Podcast Host 1
Right. It's never just like a guy named Randy.
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DSW Advertiser
Oh, yeah. It feels like South Africa a little bit. Yeah.
[04:46]
Serena Pitt
A little bit. Yeah, Exactly.
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Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
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DSW Advertiser
Yeah, I've had some. Yeah. I noticed it immediately in South Africa. I probably should notice it at airports. Cause you're right. It's the exact same thing.
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Podcast Host 1
Yeah. It's still Africans.
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Serena Pitt
We went to Cape Town for our honeymoon, and I remember having. I was like, man, this is such a beautiful place and everything is so dope. And every single meal you have, you are. It is white people sitting down and black people serving you.
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Podcast Host 1
I.
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Serena Pitt
You notice that, like, after, like, meal number three, you're like, all right, come on.
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Podcast Host 1
I don't know if I could handle that in Africa.
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DSW Advertiser
That's.
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Podcast Host 1
That's very different than my Africa.
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Serena Pitt
Yeah.
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Podcast Host 1
Yeah. Oh, I didn't Go to any restaurants.
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Serena Pitt
Tell us why.
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Podcast Host 1
No, no, no.
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DSW Advertiser
It's just like.
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Podcast Host 1
It's like I was in Sierra Leone, and the whole time I saw one white lady, and she was a Mormon.
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Serena Pitt
Yeah.
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Podcast Host 1
And it felt like she had just been left there during the war. Like, she spoke Creole and shit.
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DSW Advertiser
Yeah.
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Podcast Host 1
But other than that, there's no.
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DSW Advertiser
I realized it was just a bunch of Djimon Hounsu.
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Podcast Host 1
Give me back my son Idris Elba's elbows.
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DSW Advertiser
No, I went to. When I went to South Africa, man. It's a crazy story. I was. Was. They were shooting a movie, and, you know, they put you up in an apartment or something like that for the duration. And I got to pick the. It was a big complex with, like, five different buildings. So, you know, here are all the two bedrooms. So let's show you one from this building, one from that building, one from that building. It's like 110 degrees outside. And my boy was coming with me and his sister, and they had their bags, and I had my bags. One they had. It was. The white guy was showing us around.
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Serena Pitt
Yeah.
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DSW Advertiser
The building manager. And then the dude who was carrying the bags was the black dude. And this man didn't have a cart. And so we go to the first one, and I'm thinking, okay, cool. He'll just set the bags down in this one. We'll go pick a place, and he'll bring the bags there. He kept. Once we were leaving, we were like, oh, let's see, the other place. He'd get. You know, he'd get the bags, and we start lifting. And I was like, hold on. I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me carry my bag. He's like, no, no, no, no. And then the white dude was like, no, he's got it.
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Podcast Host 1
No, no, no.
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Serena Pitt
Oh, wait a minute.
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DSW Advertiser
I just kept going like, you sure he got. Cause he's sweating like a month. I know it's hot, but damn, you know? And I remember as we were trying to leave, we were trying to get to the last building, and these guys struggling. Finally, I was like, hey, fuck that. I need my bag. I want my bag. I want my bag. But the guy looked at me like, don't blow this for me.
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Serena Pitt
Come on, man. You gonna ruin every.
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Podcast Host 1
He gave this weird look, I got a good thing going on, boss.
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DSW Advertiser
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Serena Pitt
Yeah.
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DSW Advertiser
And the crew members were like. The transport guys were bringing stuff off the truck, it was a table like that. It was like four white guys playing cards. But on the truck, moving, all the shit, you know, we're trying to set up for a different shot was all the black dudes. And then Vin goes, hmm. He goes, see this dynamic? And I was like, yeah. And he goes, I don't like that shit. I don't like that shit. I don't like that shit at all. And he tells this guy, his security guy, to go say something to him, and the guy runs over, whispers in, like, the head guy's ear, and he looks up, looks at Vin, and then gets to work. And then Vin goes, good boy.
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Serena Pitt
God damn.
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Podcast Host 1
He was like, well, that's the best Vin Diesel story I've ever heard.
[08:09]
Serena Pitt
Yeah.
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DSW Advertiser
He was like, I don't put up with that shit. Not on my set. I know we. I know we're in you. You guys's town. I know how this is, how things might operate here. But on Vint Diesel production, that's not how this is going to operate.
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Podcast Host 1
I didn't even know that was a rich. That you could get to clap at white men like that.
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DSW Advertiser
That's exciting.
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Serena Pitt
That's way cooler than all them explosions.
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Podcast Host 1
Yeah. Yeah.
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Serena Pitt
Awesome.
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Podcast Host 1
Yeah. I want to see him doing that more.
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DSW Advertiser
I know. I was like that, dude, that's a. That's a cold dude right there.
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Podcast Host 1
I'm about to do that in the Delta Lounge tomorrow.
[08:41]
Serena Pitt
God damn. It's not gonna work.
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Podcast Host 1
No, no, no.
[08:43]
Serena Pitt
It's not gonna work at all.
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Podcast Host 1
They're gonna kick me out.
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DSW Advertiser
Fuck.
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Serena Pitt
Our guest today. We have an intro, Jared L. We haven't done any formalities, but we're so happy he's here. He's a phenomenal actor, comedian, writer. You know him from New Girl. You know him from Fargo. You know him from so many phenomenal shows. He has his own podcast. Podcasts. Multiple podcasts. He's a man of so many talents. Give it up for Lamar Morris, everybody.
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DSW Advertiser
Ooh, thank Having me. Thank you. I don't know why, when you said that, I thought I was going to hear applause.
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Podcast Host 1
Normally we have. Yeah, we have, like, buttons.
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Serena Pitt
Buttons.
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DSW Advertiser
Ain't nobody in here.
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Podcast Host 1
We're alone.
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Serena Pitt
Very alone.
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Podcast Host 1
We like to remember that.
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Serena Pitt
Say it out loud to each other.
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DSW Advertiser
You do realize we're alone. You know we're alone.
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Podcast Host 1
You're gonna die like that.
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DSW Advertiser
5:00, we're still alone. Yeah.
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Serena Pitt
Yeah, we're. We're so happy you're here. You came with a conspiracy that I think has a lot of. I would say Terrifying implications for our listeners. I would say that this.
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Podcast Host 1
You think so?
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Serena Pitt
I think it has a bigger sort of, like, influence than maybe the language suggests.
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Podcast Host 1
Really?
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Serena Pitt
I think so. I think if this were to be true, it would mean a complete unearthing of a lot of the way that we live currently.
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Podcast Host 1
It would make our current structure double terrible.
[10:12]
Serena Pitt
Or.
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Podcast Host 1
Or we, like, we double got God.
[10:14]
Serena Pitt
Or terrifying for the powers that be. If you want to be optimistic about it. I don't. Okay. Yeah.
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DSW Advertiser
Or not even terrible. I would just say. I would just say people would become more enlightened and would probably. Would probably think differently, behave differently. You know what I mean? You think so?
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Podcast Host 1
I don't think these crackers change it for nothing.
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Serena Pitt
Okay, well, let's tell them.
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DSW Advertiser
Let's tell them what we think it is.
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Serena Pitt
You're not crackers yet.
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DSW Advertiser
We'll find out.
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Serena Pitt
But you said. My mama told me black people were here first.
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DSW Advertiser
Yes, yes.
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Serena Pitt
Tell us everything you know. You mean give. Give us. Give it all to us?
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DSW Advertiser
Well, you know, again, yes, I am a science expert. Yes, I am an archaeologist.
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Podcast Host 1
That's why we invited you.
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Serena Pitt
And I'm sorry, I didn't say that in the intro.
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DSW Advertiser
People usually don't say it, and I like to shock them. You know what I'm saying? My travels and my digging and my carbon 14 dating. That's a term.
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Serena Pitt
And of course, the whip I keep on my hip.
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DSW Advertiser
Yes, exactly.
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Serena Pitt
Classic archaeologist named after a stick.
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DSW Advertiser
Indiana Jackson. That's my name.
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Podcast Host 1
One of the bad ones.
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DSW Advertiser
Yes. But. But, yeah, no, I actually. You know, this didn't actually come from my mom.
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Serena Pitt
Okay.
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DSW Advertiser
You know, this came from. You know, I was watching a podcast years ago, maybe like four, five years ago, with this guy named Hotep Jesus.
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Serena Pitt
We're familiar with Hotep Jesus here.
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DSW Advertiser
And he was talking to Joe Rogan about something. And usually there's. When you watch, like, a Rogan episode and there's like, a specialist on there, depending on what it is, there's like some pushback, some give and take. You know, they might say something controversial.
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Podcast Host 1
Depending on the specialist.
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DSW Advertiser
Depending on the specialist.
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Podcast Host 1
If he's a Nazi. No pushback.
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DSW Advertiser
I don't. Listen, listen, listen. I don't know what you're talking about. Okay.
[12:08]
Podcast Host 1
No idea what I'm talking about.
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Serena Pitt
Elon's a friend.
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DSW Advertiser
He's the bottom of my heart.
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Podcast Host 1
Love that guy.
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DSW Advertiser
But, you know. You know, I'm watching this guy Hotep on there, and he said he was like. He was just breaking it down logically. You know, Africans have been sailing before anyone you know, so. And they're Africans in the Caribbean. You know, what was stopping black folks from coming to the Americas? You know what I mean? We were already. His theory or his thought, and there's other authors who talk about it, was that the slave trade was the source of the least amount of Africans in America, that we were already here. And so instead of bringing slaves over, they came and then conquered. And that's how you take slaves as opposed to shipping. Because, you know, there was estimated, I think, 12 million slaves that were. That left Africa as a part of the slave trade. But 10 million survived, you know, 2 million, 2 plus million died off, you know, throughout the journey.
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Serena Pitt
Right.
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DSW Advertiser
But then only like less than 400,000 actually came to America. Oh. You know, according to like primary source or something like that. But, you know, so. So for me, I look at that as a logical basis to say, huh, maybe we were here already and just got conquered, slowly conquered, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't think that's a far fetched idea. And when you think about it, so many folks have a certain mindset, you know, the quote unquote, slave mentality. Because you do feel that you come from this thing and you always have to overcome this thing when that's not exactly the case. And I think there's a lot of folks that do teach, you know, extensive black history, not just what you learn in, you know, like public schools and stuff like that.
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Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
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Serena Pitt
I mean, to that point, what I think we can almost immediately agree on is the fact that like, our public school educations are not sufficient in sort of like giving anybody a full history.
[14:15]
Podcast Host 1
Oh, they don't talk about black history in the Trump Bibles.
[14:18]
Serena Pitt
Yeah, that's not gonna come up anytime though.
[14:22]
Podcast Host 1
Y.
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Serena Pitt
So yeah, it just does not. We do not have a sufficient perspective on whatever our history is, no matter who was here first.
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DSW Advertiser
Right, Right. Yeah. And I think you never will just because it's history. To me, history, especially from so long ago, is theoretical. You know what I mean? It's his story. So you're taking the word of someone before video cameras were around. You know what I mean?
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Podcast Host 1
It's written by the winners, right?
[14:54]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah, yeah. History is written by the victors. That's how it works.
[14:58]
Podcast Host 1
My question about the Africans. Right?
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Serena Pitt
Yeah.
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Podcast Host 1
Because we're assuming the Native Americans came over via the ice bridge, right? Long, long ago from Alaska. Isn't that how they say people came over here?
[15:08]
Serena Pitt
I didn't know initially. No, I've never.
[15:10]
Podcast Host 1
They came over, like when, like out Past Alaska, it was like. But at one point there was a ice bridge that it was just a wall connecting.
[15:19]
Serena Pitt
Ice connecting.
[15:20]
Podcast Host 1
And they came over and then went down through the Americas.
[15:25]
Serena Pitt
Right. And then that ice slowly melted.
[15:28]
Podcast Host 1
And so they assumingly came from the east down. Africans assumingly came from the west coast.
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DSW Advertiser
Yep.
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Podcast Host 1
Right. And then at some point, they also said there was like, Scandinavians who came. Did. Are we saying that there was a time where they all met? And are those, like, did those people mix? And that's what Native Americans.
[15:46]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah, that's how you get light skins. Yeah, that's what a light skin race came from.
[15:49]
Serena Pitt
Uh, oh, yeah. Uh, oh.
[15:50]
Podcast Host 1
The light skin race.
[15:51]
DSW Advertiser
The light skin race.
[15:52]
Podcast Host 1
A topic I love to bring up on this podcast.
[15:55]
Serena Pitt
I feel a little out of place right now.
[15:57]
DSW Advertiser
You know, the race.
[15:58]
Podcast Host 1
Olivia, turn up the heat.
[16:01]
Serena Pitt
Feeling a little nervous right about now.
[16:05]
Podcast Host 1
Cause my most interesting thing, though would be when did they all interrupt? It does seem to make sense to me that they would come from West Africa, because what they say about slaves anyways is that all those crops could be grown here, right?
[16:16]
Serena Pitt
Yeah.
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Podcast Host 1
Rice, peanuts, all that shit could be grown in West Africa. And it came over here. So it's like. Was there a time where. Cause I think that was probably a great time. Native Americans and black people just chilling.
[16:28]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah, they found. I mean, they found ancient Egyptian, you know, artifacts in Ohio and in Arizona, you know, in these different places. Which means that could have just been.
[16:38]
Podcast Host 1
Like a nigga buried him, though.
[16:40]
DSW Advertiser
I mean, for like that deep, though, you know what I'm saying?
[16:44]
Podcast Host 1
No, that's like.
[16:45]
DSW Advertiser
There's certain.
[16:46]
Podcast Host 1
There's certain, like, seafaring in that way.
[16:49]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah, they were the primary, you know, people who lived on the water, you know what I mean? Like, they were.
[16:55]
Podcast Host 1
But like, coming from that far, the current Mali people be like Mansa Musa type.
[17:01]
Serena Pitt
So I think my understanding is that both groups were sort of like. I read something. This is giving away a little bit of the research, but I read a thing that was basically saying that they found evidence of people back in the U.S. virgin Islands and Espanola and a bunch of the Caribbean based off of the spearheads that they used in West Africa, that basically they recognized this weird alloy mixture as the same mixture that they would find on the spearhead of the African people. And that's how they figured out that, like, oh, they were the ones that introduced this form of weaponry in this.
[17:42]
Podcast Host 1
Area now on Hispaniola. Which side? Because one side is no black papi.
[17:48]
Serena Pitt
I think that took some time. I don't think it started off that way. It was just one dude on the beach.
[17:57]
Podcast Host 2
Hey.
[18:05]
Serena Pitt
He just had on little tight jeans.
[18:12]
Podcast Host 1
I like to think that that was in their culture from the beginning.
[18:15]
Serena Pitt
Yeah. Nobody introduced that.
[18:17]
Podcast Host 1
That's not colonization. They see the ships from the beach. We had no problem.
[18:28]
Serena Pitt
It's not for me.
[18:30]
DSW Advertiser
But no, I think. I don't think the implications would mean some sort of uprising or negative.
[18:37]
Podcast Host 1
No, I don't. I don't. I'm not saying some type of a negative. I'm talking about a society that. Or even not a society as much as, like, a loose group of people. But I'm just talking about the idea that there was a peaceful mingling before the.
[18:51]
DSW Advertiser
I think. I think it was.
[18:52]
Podcast Host 1
That's. That's what's exciting to me.
[18:54]
DSW Advertiser
I would like to. I would like to believe that it was. You know what I mean, that people just. People weren't caught up with, you know, race. People were just like, oh, cool, you look different. Go, all right, let's. Let's fuck. All right, cool. Let's all fuck each other. All right.
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Podcast Host 1
I was thinking about that the other day, though, and this is like, I'm trying to be a good person about this. If I was to encounter a new race when I had never seen one in my entire life, I would be like, we should kill them.
[19:23]
Serena Pitt
Whoa.
[19:24]
Podcast Host 1
If I had never seen that shit before, I would just. That's like. You'd be like, yo, no.
[19:30]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah, yeah. No.
[19:33]
Serena Pitt
I think we also have to keep in mind that race was so different back then. Do you know what I mean?
[19:38]
Podcast Host 1
That's what I'm saying.
[19:39]
Serena Pitt
It wasn't just like, oh, you're a different color than me. It's like, literally, you are shaped different. You are feet taller than I am or shorter. Like, literally, we look like different species. And human history tells us that when we encounter different species in the animal kingdom, certain. We tend to kill it first, and then.
[20:00]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah, we eat it. Yeah.
[20:01]
Podcast Host 1
Yeah, man.
[20:02]
Serena Pitt
We get a little bite and then we go like. I don't think I like biting that. I'll keep it.
[20:06]
DSW Advertiser
I'll keep it. I'll keep that.
[20:08]
Podcast Host 1
I'm suspicious when I see somebody new on my block. Yeah, yeah.
[20:12]
DSW Advertiser
I'm always thinking about killing that nigga. I love that murder is the first place I truly.
[20:20]
Podcast Host 1
It would be shocking in a way. That would really scare me, though, I think.
[20:23]
Serena Pitt
Even if you are. Yeah. Even if you are the only person who feels that way in this room. Human history tells us there are more of you than there are of me, certainly.
[20:33]
Podcast Host 1
I think so.
[20:34]
DSW Advertiser
People just been conquering people.
[20:35]
Podcast Host 1
Fucking Makes sense. Yeah, yeah. Fucking and killing actions.
[20:39]
Serena Pitt
So you hear this Ron Rogan from Hotep. Jesus. You immediately it sounds like you're bought in. You adopt this.
[20:46]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah. Just because I look at history as like we talked about. I look at history as just like a theory, you know what I mean? I don't just believe everything because someone wrote it down. You know what I mean? Like I used to write short stories as a kid.
[20:59]
Serena Pitt
Okay.
[21:00]
DSW Advertiser
Completely made up shit. You're just writing a story, you know what I mean? Can you imagine? And then let's look at movie scripts. Let's look at books, fiction books. Let's say in 500 years the world is gone or whatever. 10,000 years. But some of these. Some of these things are left behind.
[21:19]
Serena Pitt
Yeah.
[21:20]
DSW Advertiser
Now someone picks up a drawing from me and they hear about this little boy named lamorne with a 12 inch penis and he's slept with every girl in his school. They're gonna be like this man conquered. So I'm gonna be living.
[21:35]
Podcast Host 1
That wasn't short stories, that was smut.
[21:38]
DSW Advertiser
I mean fan fiction, personal fan fiction.
[21:42]
Podcast Host 1
Is also very healthy, I think.
[21:44]
Serena Pitt
You know who. Lamorne.
[21:47]
DSW Advertiser
They're gonna have schools named after me. Long Dick Morris. They're gonna have schools gonna be, you know, flags with my face on. I'm gonna be on coins. You know what I mean? Just because someone found this old thing and someone found a perfectly true artifact.
[22:00]
Serena Pitt
Yes.
[22:02]
Podcast Host 1
That's a crazy thought. To think they're just gonna find like the Demolition man script.
[22:06]
Serena Pitt
But that's.
[22:09]
Podcast Host 1
They used to eat Taco Bell all the time.
[22:11]
Serena Pitt
But if you think about it, that's so much more likely than them fucking finding a PBS documentary about the truth.
[22:18]
DSW Advertiser
You know what I mean?
[22:18]
Podcast Host 1
Like a Howard Zinn book.
[22:20]
DSW Advertiser
Of course not.
[22:21]
Serena Pitt
They're going to be like Once upon a time in Hollywood is the way it went.
[22:24]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah.
[22:25]
Serena Pitt
This documentarian shared it with them.
[22:27]
Podcast Host 1
They're going to think Brad Pitt beat up Bruce Lee.
[22:33]
Serena Pitt
That's how the white race is going to revive itself.
[22:35]
Podcast Host 1
I think that's how they got here already. No, that's. I like this. I'm with this. I do bought into. I like it. I. I do wonder why we're not as big as the other seafaring people. That is the Polynesians. Because that's how they got so big, they say. Right. Is because they were such a seafaring people that they got. Why?
[22:58]
Serena Pitt
Because they just like taste.
[22:59]
Podcast Host 1
You have to be really hardy to like travel this Especially before modern. So.
[23:04]
Serena Pitt
So it's not. That's why they're big. It's more that they are big because they survived a thing that other people.
[23:12]
Podcast Host 1
Could be like big and strong to do that at the time.
[23:16]
DSW Advertiser
Are you implying that black folks aren't as big and strong as Polynesians?
[23:24]
Serena Pitt
I've always said that. He's got a nasty attitude. Don't even know something.
[23:29]
DSW Advertiser
I was big as hell.
[23:30]
Podcast Host 1
But I think we can all agree the Samoans are going crazy.
[23:33]
DSW Advertiser
No, they go, yeah, yeah, yeah, they are. But you gotta look at Africa. Africa. I'm sure there are civilization. Africa is probably the most diverse. Well, it is the most diverse place in the world. We've got in Africa. You could find the shortest people in the world. You can find the tallest people in the world. You can find the smartest people in the world. You can find the dumbest people in the world. Neil Degrasse. Shit.
[23:51]
Podcast Host 1
You know a bunch of African. Troy Palomalu.
[23:54]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah, a bunch. I know.
[23:56]
Podcast Host 1
I know as many as, you know, Samoans. I don't know why I'm coming at.
[23:59]
DSW Advertiser
You crazy, but that's here in America. That's here in America. You know what I'm saying? You go to Africa. I'm sure there's civilizations where people, they don't. People don't look real. They just so big and gifted, you.
[24:09]
Serena Pitt
Know, maybe, maybe they just sent their biggest and. And best here. But they're. But back home it's just some little.
[24:16]
Podcast Host 1
They're a little over.
[24:17]
DSW Advertiser
There's a bunch of like a bunch of Samoan Dinklages. Peter Dinklage. Like, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to Peter Dinklage. I love Peter Dinklage.
[24:25]
Podcast Host 1
I would be so upset if I was a little ass Samoan.
[24:27]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah, boy. Like, bro, that is bullshit.
[24:34]
Podcast Host 1
Fuck.
[24:34]
DSW Advertiser
But he's really just like 5 9.
[24:36]
Podcast Host 1
Yeah, he's average height and weight.
[24:40]
DSW Advertiser
He's just like, shit.
[24:44]
Serena Pitt
So you buy into this. How much are you now, like, spreading this conspiracy? Is this like you sit down with friends and family and you announce, hey folks, I've got a new perspective on things.
[24:58]
DSW Advertiser
No, I don't spread it just because I haven't done the research, you know, myself. I just. This is hearsay. It's not just from Hotel of Jesus. I've heard from other people. But when he explained it, he made it make sense to me. I was like, oh, logically that makes sense. But just because something makes sense to you logically doesn't mean it's true.
[25:15]
Serena Pitt
Nope.
[25:15]
DSW Advertiser
You know What? I mean, yeah.
[25:17]
Serena Pitt
I just found out that key limes are not kiwi and lime mixed together.
[25:23]
DSW Advertiser
Nigga, you thought that was.
[25:26]
Podcast Host 1
Yo, yo. He doesn't ever even say dumb shit on here. That was crazy.
[25:30]
Serena Pitt
I really thought that.
[25:31]
DSW Advertiser
That was crazy. I never heard you say something stupid in my life.
[25:33]
Serena Pitt
I'm 37 years old. I legit was like, well, it's. It's key lime because it's kiwi and lime mushed together. And then I found out that's just. They're just limes in the keys. It's K E. Yeah, but if you're dumb, you can piece it together.
[25:48]
Podcast Host 1
That's not even dumb, though. That's right. This is crazy.
[25:52]
Serena Pitt
I'm not proud to say. This isn't me bragging.
[25:54]
Podcast Host 1
Trump got us all fucked up.
[25:56]
DSW Advertiser
You actually thought that, like, the kiwi had a dick. It was like, let me go fuck that line real quick. Or somebody mixed. Mixed seeds together.
[26:04]
Serena Pitt
Mix them also.
[26:06]
Podcast Host 1
They didn't take any traits. It didn't look like a hairy nut sack. Nothing. It just looked like a lime.
[26:11]
Serena Pitt
Well, we don't see what key limes look like. It's like, they don't put it on the bottle.
[26:15]
Podcast Host 1
They just.
[26:15]
DSW Advertiser
You just see the pie.
[26:16]
Serena Pitt
Yeah. That's what I'm saying. And if you look at that pie, it's a weird color for lime.
[26:20]
DSW Advertiser
It is a very light green.
[26:22]
Serena Pitt
That's what I'm saying. So in my mind, I started with the pie, and I presumed you worked your way backwards. And then eventually that flavor started to become ubiquitous in all things.
[26:32]
Podcast Host 1
I did that with red butter, but.
[26:33]
Serena Pitt
It started as pie.
[26:33]
DSW Advertiser
Maybe my question to you is, how long did it take you along this path of thinking to just look it up? Like, at one point when you thought these two species came together, you say, let me just check this.
[26:45]
Serena Pitt
I got bad news for you. I never looked it up. I was so confident. And then I was so confident, I said it to my father to his face, oh, no. And then he said, what the fuck?
[26:57]
DSW Advertiser
I thought I raised you better than I tried to. He said, what the.
[27:02]
Serena Pitt
What the fuck? And then we had a long talk.
[27:07]
DSW Advertiser
About stupidity, about how do I end up.
[27:10]
Podcast Host 1
I'm not proud of it.
[27:11]
DSW Advertiser
That's crazy.
[27:12]
Serena Pitt
My point is that you can create a logical progression that then eventually folds in on you. So I hear you when you say you don't share.
[27:20]
Podcast Host 1
Yeah. And I was gonna say, also to that end, when black supremacy is involved, I'm even more inclined to kind of not look it up.
[27:29]
Serena Pitt
Yeah.
[27:29]
Podcast Host 1
Just like, hey, the Oil man said, shout out to the oil man. This is a good hustle, man.
[27:37]
Serena Pitt
So before we take a break, and I think you were saying this earlier. You don't believe this information to be at all, like, threatening to the world?
[27:46]
DSW Advertiser
No, I just think it's almost like Trump saying, I'm gonna release the files of JFK and MLK and stuff like that. I go, okay. I think it just might add a little bit more clarity. But we're still here already. We still have to exist and live. That doesn't necessarily change anything, you know, whether we find out the government was behind it, which we know they were. You know, people now are just more aware that, okay, maybe I. Maybe I should rethink, you know, these strong stances I take based off of something that I learned in school.
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Podcast Host 1
Well, that's also, by the way, how, you know, Trump flies no flag.
[28:23]
Serena Pitt
Yeah.
[28:25]
Podcast Host 1
He's like, we did that. I'm telling you.
[28:30]
Serena Pitt
Because he's like, I ain't do it. Look what they did. That's why you with me, right?
[28:35]
DSW Advertiser
Because I ain't do that. I had no. Nothing to do with this. I wasn't around.
[28:39]
Serena Pitt
You know, I wasn't even no mlk.
[28:40]
DSW Advertiser
I had nothing to do with this shooting.
[28:42]
Serena Pitt
I was. I wasn't there.
[28:44]
DSW Advertiser
I wasn't there. We're looking deeply into it, though. Apparently, he was shot. We don't know if he was shot. You know, he wasn't.
[28:51]
Serena Pitt
I was shot, too.
[28:53]
DSW Advertiser
They tried to shoot me. They shot me here. You know, I heard it coming.
[28:58]
Serena Pitt
I guess this guy couldn't hear.
[29:02]
DSW Advertiser
But, yeah, that's the way I look at it. Yeah, I look at it the exact same way. It's not going to shift the way. It's just going to shift the way we think.
[29:09]
Serena Pitt
Well, here's where I'll challenge you, is that I do agree with you that in this moment, if they tell us that the CIA was behind the killing Martin Luther King Jr. Nothing happens for us. But I do think if they would have found out in the years closer to that, it could have created a real uprising in this country. And I wonder how much of the release of the information is timed in a way where they go like, oh, we've neutered them enough to live, as.
[29:42]
Podcast Host 1
Opposed to, it's Trump laying it out. It's like, it was time to let this go.
[29:46]
Serena Pitt
So I'm saying that, like, if we found out today that Kamala did, in fact, win the election, that creates an actual uprising.
[29:54]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah, because it's so immediate. It's so Immediate.
[29:57]
Serena Pitt
But if we find out 20 years from now Kamala won the election, everybody goes to work the way they always knew they would.
[30:06]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah. All the players are dead and gone. You know, all the. You know, so it doesn't really affect them. Let's say we've moved on. You know what I mean? Yeah.
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Podcast Host 1
It's like, except for your one friend who's radicalized, who won't stop talking about it.
[30:17]
Serena Pitt
Right. And so in that way, I guess that I. That's where I see this as less of a threat than it probably is. Is because there's just been so much time. Yeah. That, like, people just go, oh, yeah. What the fuck am I going to do about it?
[30:31]
DSW Advertiser
Right?
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Podcast Host 1
And, I mean, they're trying to get over our. They're trying to have us get over our recent past. Why? People be like, slavery was 200 years. You think they give a fuck about 5, 700? They don't give a damn, bro. They don't give a damn about that.
[30:46]
DSW Advertiser
They're like, we didn't write those books.
[30:47]
Serena Pitt
Yeah. I think that's why they don't give a fuck about what happened to the Native Americans is because they were like, bro, we didn't even have our system built yet. Yeah. We were just. That was our. That was some, like, old shit. We wasn't even cooking Americans.
[31:02]
Podcast Host 1
I think somewhere deep in their hearts, they do know how bad that was, though. That's why they're so scared of immigrants now. It's like, you hit the craziest lick of all time. This shit was sweet. You stole this whole shit.
[31:14]
Serena Pitt
And.
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Podcast Host 1
Yeah, of course you're scared people are gonna come over and get it. Because, like, I think about that sometimes. It's like, that's why they're so worried about keeping their way of life. They're like, we committed a crazy cry. Why would you not try to keep these resources?
[31:27]
Serena Pitt
I can't fold on none of this.
[31:28]
DSW Advertiser
I can't.
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Podcast Host 1
I gotta stand on it. We stole this shit.
[31:33]
Serena Pitt
I stole it from my kids.
[31:34]
DSW Advertiser
It's a power thing. You know what I mean? No one. Like, no one. No one wants to give up how much power they have.
[31:39]
Podcast Host 1
Right.
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DSW Advertiser
You know? So when I hear. When I see certain things happening, and I go. I go. You know, they go, oh, so many white folks doing this, White folks doing that. And I go, if I was in power, I wouldn't want to give that shit up either. So what's your. What's. What are you going to do about it?
[31:51]
Podcast Host 1
And also because I want to take it, truth be. Told, like, I'm not.
[31:56]
DSW Advertiser
I'm not.
[31:56]
Podcast Host 1
Like, I'm not trying to. Like, I don't know if anybody's looking for equality.
[32:01]
DSW Advertiser
I think people, yeah. It's like when I'm looking for equality, I just want to. I want to. I want to. I want to. I want to surpass you. And then it's like, whoa, I want to surpass you. I don't want to surpass you. And I feel like that, you know, it's difficult. It will be difficult to come by. I'm not 100% sure if we'll see a completely equal society in my lifetime.
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Podcast Host 1
I don't think it's real.
[32:20]
DSW Advertiser
It's always going to be. It's always going to be off balance. You know what I mean? That's just how it is. Power is a strong enough thing where no one wants to give that shit up.
[32:29]
Podcast Host 1
Keep talking like that, Olivia's going to cut your mic.
[32:33]
DSW Advertiser
I want it to be. I want everybody to say. Say Kumbaya and just be like, yo, I rock with you. I rock with you. Hey, what do you do? I can learn from you. Can you learn from me? Oh, man, let's build. That'd be great. But then how do. But then how do I drive a better car than you, though? Because if we have the same page.
[32:51]
Podcast Host 1
Then also systemically, we need an underclass for this whole shit to work.
[32:55]
Serena Pitt
And I think we've created so many hierarchical systems that even if we were to unpack it via race, we would still have it about height, we would still have it about weight, we would still have it about cars and jewelry, and so it would require too many things to unpack to actually get to some truly egalitarian place of joy and peace.
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Podcast Host 1
So at what point does that do we. Do we take the idea of that's just the nature of the man, and we get busy how we get busy? Or is it, like, something that could be worked up to.
[33:30]
Serena Pitt
I don't know.
[33:30]
Podcast Host 1
I think that's a tough. I don't have an answer to that.
[33:32]
Serena Pitt
I was watching Silo. I don't know if y'all are watching Silo at all, but. But one of the things that this isn't a spoiler for the show, but it's. Humanity lives in a silo now, okay? And the world, in theory, is poison.
[33:45]
Podcast Host 1
Okay?
[33:45]
Serena Pitt
And that is how they understand the world.
[33:48]
Podcast Host 1
The same as that video game.
[33:49]
Serena Pitt
Hey, man, I'm just.
[33:53]
Podcast Host 1
I don't know.
[33:54]
Serena Pitt
They probably got the rights. Do it. I'm not.
[33:57]
Podcast Host 1
I thought that was what that game Fallout was about.
[33:59]
Serena Pitt
Fallout's a different show, but it's similar. They're in bunkers, but Silo, they legit think they can't even go outside. I think with, with, with Fallout, they know they could go outside. It's just fucked up up there, right? But anyway, with Silo, one of the things the principles of, like, their existence inside the silo is them going, we don't know how we got here. We don't know who built this silo. We know we can't. Or that outside is dangerous and someday we can go back outside. But today ain't that day. That's like their doctrine. And I was thinking, I said it to my wife, I was like, that's kind of cold to just restart a society and be like, ain't no history. History don't exist. We ain't here. Get in. All right. We need to take a break. Yeah, we're gonna take a break. And when we come back, we'll be.
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Podcast Host 1
Back with more Lamar Morris.
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Serena Pitt
More. My mama told me.
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Serena Pitt
Lamorne I did a little bit of research on your conspiracy that I would love to unpack with you. I'll tell you that I don't know shit. Okay, you heard the key lime comment. Not a learned man. But I did google a lot of things and I want to run them your way. So agree, disagree. Let's figure it out together. There are some people who claim that black people actually existed in America thousands of years before white people came to this country. Those same people, and some of them more extreme than others. But those same people also claim that Africans were the ones who originated in America. That like we are in fact the indigenous group of america more than 50,000 years ago. And that the mongrams came over from a different, like after a different era via the same Eurasian sort of pathway, and then ended up cross breeding with us, thus creating what we now understand to be Native Americans. Oh, that is the hotep literature interpretation of our current American makeup. So in theory, that's that's how black people started in this country. Now plenty of white googling will tell you that that is completely false. Yes, the white man's history will say that's completely false, that Native Americans were here first. Now they admit that, sort of. But they certainly don't say that black people were first. They say that the first black people, however, got here in the early 1500s, which if you are in fact a historian, you know Christopher Columbus claimed To have gotten to America in 1492, but never actually got to America ever in his lifetime.
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Podcast Host 1
He got to the Caribbean. Right.
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Serena Pitt
He only made it to the Caribbean and he went back like three times and beat the shit out of them every single time he came.
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DSW Advertiser
But he did say. I think he said when he came here he met black people.
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Serena Pitt
Right. Because they already existed in the Caribbean.
[40:12]
Podcast Host 1
Because we had been here.
[40:14]
Serena Pitt
Because we had been here. And that's the thing we were talking about earlier with the African. The Mali tribe had already made touch in the Caribbean, leaving behind those spearheads that ultimately became the weapon of choice for the native Caribbean people.
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Podcast Host 1
Mansa Musa had it, boy. Mm man. Damn. Would have been a good time to be dark skinned.
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Serena Pitt
You'd have been killing it.
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Podcast Host 1
I would have gone crazy.
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DSW Advertiser
Are you kidding me?
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Serena Pitt
You might have been light skinned for back then.
[40:43]
DSW Advertiser
All right, relax. I think he better than us. He all dark. He all unseen at night than us.
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Podcast Host 1
I would not. I would not. I would not. I would not. That would be crazy. That'd be. That is probably the best time.
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Serena Pitt
Yeah. But the. All that said if in there the again, the white man's history tells us the the earliest black African person came to America in 1501. Columbus doesn't in fact get here in 1492. Which does mean that as far as people who sort of colonize America or sort of like introduced themselves to America, black people did precede white people.
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Podcast Host 1
Like the original colonizer settlers or whatever.
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Serena Pitt
Settlers.
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Podcast Host 1
Was it already called America then?
[41:27]
Serena Pitt
No, it didn't have. Certainly an American, an English name.
[41:32]
Podcast Host 1
It was named after that.
[41:34]
DSW Advertiser
Africa too. Like Africa. Yeah. That's the tricky part though is that we'll never. You'll never know. You know they're gonna say one thing. Other folks are gonna say one thing and then you know, it's just left up to. It's just left. That's why I believe that even if it did come out as fact, nothing will actually happen. Cause it doesn't change the state in.
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Serena Pitt
Which we're in today 100%. You know, what would people even do about it? Are you gonna give up your home?
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Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
[42:04]
DSW Advertiser
You're not.
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Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
[42:05]
DSW Advertiser
No one's gonna give up. You shouldn't. You shouldn't give up your house because of what happened.
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Podcast Host 1
Nothing that happened before they erected this system. Going to take.
[42:14]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah.
[42:15]
Podcast Host 1
To make any change in the system.
[42:16]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah.
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Podcast Host 1
I truly don't.
[42:17]
DSW Advertiser
But it would be nice to know. It would be nice to know that.
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Serena Pitt
It would feel good.
[42:20]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah.
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Serena Pitt
There are people. I'll tell you guys this. There. There are. And I'm sure you're familiar, the Moorish Americans.
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DSW Advertiser
Are we familiar with.
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Podcast Host 1
Is that the ones who wear those funny hats?
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Serena Pitt
Yeah. Well, so they. They do expand into that. Yes. The more the Moors wear the funny hats. Absolutely. But the Moorish American temple, there are organizations inside of the Moors that believe in sovereignty. And part of the reason they believe in sovereignty is they believe that black people's, or rather white people's ownership in this country is completely falsified. That like, they. They basically usurped it a bunch of land from us that wasn't ever supposed to happen in the Louisiana Purchase. That, like, we, in fact, were the ones that were old land in the Louisiana Purchase. And then they just like.
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Podcast Host 1
Oh, like, are they saying that they. They're saying that the Louisiana Purchase was not from the Native Americans as we see it. They were negotiating to buy it from black people.
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Serena Pitt
I think they're.
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Podcast Host 1
Because either way, the deal was bad, right? Yeah, that deal was. It was like, only the Haitians, I think, got a worse deal in life.
[43:28]
Serena Pitt
Yeah, no, it sucked for sure. But. But they're saying, like, yo, we were supposed to be the victors in the Louisiana Purchase, and instead white people took off.
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Podcast Host 1
So we were supposed to trick the natives. I don't love that. Again, that's still bad. That's just. Still.
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Serena Pitt
We were supposed to be the devil.
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Podcast Host 1
It's supposed to be black devil.
[43:49]
DSW Advertiser
What the fuck we supposed to. Been calling them? Niggers, man.
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Serena Pitt
That is their word. Now, there's no real evidence of this claim, obviously, but it is. It feels possible, at least to me, that, like, the. The total American footprint would be much more complicated than what's being presented. That this was just a country completely filled with Native American people and nothing else until white people arrive. Makes no sense to me.
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Podcast Host 1
But here's the thing. I don't know if it would make me feel better because just that idea is complicated enough to me that there was full of Native Americans and you came and killed them.
[44:36]
Serena Pitt
Yeah.
[44:36]
Podcast Host 1
And then put them on Resident. That's already terrible. I don't. It doesn't. Whatever happened, you cleared the shit out.
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Serena Pitt
Yeah. No, everybody, they. Somebody conquered.
[44:46]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah, clearly you can see someone conquered. You know what I mean? Which is the way shit was done back then.
[44:52]
Serena Pitt
And I think the conquering.
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Podcast Host 1
What's the biggest conquering, though? South America, I guess.
[44:57]
Serena Pitt
No, I mean, Genghis Khan conquered the World Fair. He, like, literally. I think it's some crazy number where like a third of humanity is like, genetically related to Genghis Khan.
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Podcast Host 1
Yeah. No, he beat Will. Will.
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DSW Advertiser
Will Chamberlain.
[45:12]
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
[45:12]
DSW Advertiser
Oh, my God. He was out here.
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Serena Pitt
Will.
[45:18]
DSW Advertiser
You know, that's impossible. Also, also, I'm the same guy who believes in lizard people. People. So I don't really.
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Podcast Host 1
We should have started with that.
[45:37]
DSW Advertiser
I look at all this like this. I go, yeah, yeah. This is all one big mystery to me.
[45:41]
Serena Pitt
I'll be honest. I was getting lizard people vibes, but I didn't want to be rude.
[45:45]
DSW Advertiser
Really? Yeah.
[45:46]
Serena Pitt
I mean, he. He really felt bought in from. From a dude named Hotep. Jesus. That.
[45:52]
Podcast Host 1
Oh, that feels. That's fair.
[45:55]
Serena Pitt
Like you could play around with lizards.
[45:58]
Podcast Host 1
Double eyelids and all that.
[45:59]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah. When people. You know what I mean? And it's not even that. It's not even that I believe it. I don't actually believe in that. But if I saw. But if someone presented that to be fact, I would go like, this makes sense. Yeah. Because the truth is stranger than fiction. This world is so mysterious. There's so much uncovered things, so many uncovered things that we have no idea of. You know what I mean? And all the stuff that we do believe is a theory. So we go, ah. We go, man, that's. You know, what if. What if something strange. When people say the world is flat, I go, I'm not gonna knock you for it. I don't know. I know it's round.
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Podcast Host 1
I do think that one's stupid.
[46:38]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah. I go, I know it's round, but I'm also not gonna be like, you're dumb. Hey, believe what you wanna believe, man. You know what I'm saying? There's people out there that believe Michael Jordan's better than LeBron James. People are crazy.
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Podcast Host 1
Oh, wow, okay.
[46:50]
DSW Advertiser
People are crazy. You know, they just found a noted.
[46:55]
Podcast Host 1
Pussy getter, LeBron James.
[46:59]
DSW Advertiser
They just found a square, like some sort of square, perfectly square structure on Mars. A picture of it. And I go, when did that get there?
[47:07]
Serena Pitt
Right?
[47:08]
DSW Advertiser
Like, how did that form? Did it form naturally? You know, what the fuck? It could be that we've been around so damn long that this conversation has happened a billion times.
[47:19]
Podcast Host 1
Oh, yeah.
[47:19]
DSW Advertiser
Throughout the course of history. Like, who knows?
[47:22]
Serena Pitt
I mean, that is the argument in the Matrix, right? Is that like, we have restarted and ended civilization multiple times. That, like, we are not as unique as we think we are.
[47:34]
Podcast Host 1
Not at all.
[47:35]
Serena Pitt
This ain't our first swing. That planets build, they die, and then we get another chance.
[47:40]
Podcast Host 1
This shit's not even interesting. Like, it's just. We've been doing the same shit too. Like, it changes a little bit. Like, was it you who was telling me about how the Mayans had museums?
[47:49]
Serena Pitt
No.
[47:50]
Podcast Host 1
Damn. Who was I talking to about that?
[47:52]
DSW Advertiser
The Mayans have museums?
[47:53]
Podcast Host 1
Yeah, they had museums of ancient artifacts.
[47:56]
Serena Pitt
Whoa.
[47:56]
Podcast Host 1
And then you're like, oh, this shit is like. Like, it's all been okay. I mean, I guess the Internet's new, but at the same, we've been doing the same basic shit, and then it gets to a place where it's untenable because there's too many people and it breaks down. Yeah, it'll happen again, probably.
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Serena Pitt
Fuck y'all. Niggas are bleak.
[48:13]
DSW Advertiser
With that being said, none of this is true. I am not a scientist like I claim to be earlier in the podcast.
[48:21]
Podcast Host 1
I would still like to get booked for your shows.
[48:23]
Serena Pitt
Yeah.
[48:24]
DSW Advertiser
Most people would consider me. Me ignorant. So if you okay with that, I would love to come and do your part. I'm making my rounds spreading these lies. Shout out Hotel Jesus.
[48:38]
Serena Pitt
Here's what we need to do. We're going to take one more break. And then. Because I now am very excited that you are a lizard person rising. You know what I mean? You're finding yourself. I can be convinced inside of a lot of conspiracies. I actually have a number of other cases, conspiracies related to black people and the origins of our understanding of the world that I want to run your way. This is very exciting. We're going to take a break. We're going to come back with more Lamour Morris. More My mama told me.
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[52:21]
Serena Pitt
How is my man supposed to schmeat.
[52:23]
Podcast Host 1
His meat with this, bro?
[52:25]
Serena Pitt
What the. Yeah, we're back. That was a good pick. That was a really good pick. We're back with more Lamar More. Morris was still talking about the possibility that black people were here first. Now sounds like we're all mostly bought into this premise. Now let's talk a little bit about black people inventing Greek mythology. That is an argument that I've read, watched videos of niggas claiming that we are actually this is a Bobby Hemmett. This is a Bobby Hemmett.
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Podcast Host 1
I do it.
[53:08]
Serena Pitt
It's a Bobby Hemmett classes it.
[53:11]
Podcast Host 1
He's been trying to sneak Bobby habit propaganda on this.
[53:16]
Serena Pitt
It's one my man put together.
[53:20]
DSW Advertiser
Wait, that the idea of Greek mythology and all of its characters and players was invented by black people.
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Serena Pitt
Not only invented by black people, but that we are the source material for Greek mythology that black people were gods on this planet. And it is only through time and sort of the stealing of our essence. He claims that we gave it away to white people so that we could rebuild to something greater than gods. But basically. Yeah, he knows that. He says that's what we did, is that we gave it all away so that we could become greater in the eventual future. But he claims that the Greek gods were just black people. We could throw lightning bolts and, you know, have full grown people come out of our.
[54:09]
Podcast Host 1
I feel like I've heard this.
[54:12]
DSW Advertiser
Six, seven. Yeah.
[54:17]
Podcast Host 1
Big old pussy getting athletic. Or Scotty.
[54:20]
Serena Pitt
Or Scotty.
[54:23]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah. That's Greek mythology.
[54:28]
Serena Pitt
That's a tragedy of every. There was one.
[54:32]
DSW Advertiser
I would have won six championships without Michael Jordan. Okay.
[54:36]
Serena Pitt
All right. Scotty, that.
[54:38]
Podcast Host 1
That. He's a lizard person.
[54:39]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah, I would. I would agree with that. I love Scott. I'm from Chicago.
[54:42]
Podcast Host 1
I.
[54:42]
Serena Pitt
Hey, me too.
[54:44]
Podcast Host 1
Oh, okay.
[54:45]
Serena Pitt
Well, Old Park.
[54:49]
Podcast Host 1
Oh, that didn't look like it went that well. Still Chicago.
[54:52]
Serena Pitt
I gotta be honest.
[54:53]
DSW Advertiser
Still Chicago.
[54:54]
Podcast Host 1
But you're from the city.
[54:55]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah, 101st. And that's okay.
[54:57]
Serena Pitt
Hell, yeah.
[54:58]
DSW Advertiser
And I moved. I moved around a lot, though. I ended up going to Wheaton.
[55:01]
Serena Pitt
Okay.
[55:01]
DSW Advertiser
In high school.
[55:02]
Serena Pitt
Yeah.
[55:03]
DSW Advertiser
And Glen Ellen. And went to college. DuPage. Yeah, I know.
[55:06]
Serena Pitt
DuPage.
[55:07]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah, I Know.
[55:08]
Serena Pitt
Oh, man.
[55:09]
DSW Advertiser
Listen, man, they have a fine theater establishment, okay? Very, very fine.
[55:13]
Serena Pitt
Yeah.
[55:14]
DSW Advertiser
Fine Italian hot beef.
[55:17]
Podcast Host 1
Yeah, I was trying to get in. Onions.
[55:21]
DSW Advertiser
Polish beef.
[55:27]
Serena Pitt
So you hear that? You're bought in. You believe this? You're open to this as a possibility?
[55:33]
DSW Advertiser
I can't say that I'm open to the idea that we were throwing lightning bolts, okay? But the idea that we believed in our power, so much so that we felt like the supreme beings, you know what I mean? There is the idea that.
[55:50]
Podcast Host 1
I know guys like that now.
[55:51]
DSW Advertiser
I know. I mean, there's people like that with that kind of, you know, I could do. You know, I could do anything.
[55:56]
Podcast Host 1
God body.
[55:56]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah. But back. You know, there are certain things that we don't explore on a common scale here in the world, which is like being able to use sound to, like, move pyramids and things like that. Those are apparently cracked open this third act. I'm just saying.
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Podcast Host 1
No, I like you.
[56:16]
DSW Advertiser
Back then, apparently they had that they possessed that power that they can use the elements, that they could use 100% of their brains to control things and manipulate weather and do all this stuff. Right? So I could. I wouldn't be shocked if that was a real thing. I wouldn't be shocked. It's just so far fetched because there's no evidence of that.
[56:37]
Serena Pitt
Yeah, sure. You know what I mean? Completely disconnected from our lived experience in a way that you couldn't begin to prove it even if you wanted to.
[56:47]
DSW Advertiser
Right, right. Cause there's no way that people back then were able to like fly and do all these things when I can barely touch backboard, you know what I'm saying?
[56:58]
Podcast Host 1
I do believe that it was a dude telling a story who said that, though I was getting his ass back.
[57:03]
DSW Advertiser
Out and I started throwing lightning bolts.
[57:08]
Podcast Host 1
About 10 bitches, bro. I came down, I was a goat fucking all these goats.
[57:12]
Serena Pitt
That does seem like son strong as hell. One of my sons mean he strong.
[57:26]
Podcast Host 1
I just try to finish your cut, big dog.
[57:33]
DSW Advertiser
Don't cut my locks. That's my source of power. Oh, man. I'm not completely bought in.
[57:45]
Serena Pitt
You're not completely bought in on that. Now what I will also say is another thing that Bobby Hemmett claims is that black people originally settled Ireland, France, Russia and Bosnia and that Stalin did not in fact kill 20 million people because his nation would have turned against him, but instead he did ethnic cleansing in Russia and basically eliminated the remaining black population. That like, we were the main folks in Russia. And then Stalin.
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DSW Advertiser
Russia always been that cold. I think the whole time, Stalin ain't eliminated.
[58:21]
Podcast Host 1
So that's too recent. That's too recent for that kind of.
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Serena Pitt
I read it and I was like, all right, man, you're being wild.
[58:28]
Podcast Host 1
Yeah, that's like. That like just happened.
[58:31]
DSW Advertiser
And that's the thing with like, when history is so recent, it's not necessarily theoretical.
[58:36]
Serena Pitt
Yeah.
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DSW Advertiser
You know what I mean? It's like, okay, well, there is footage, or there might be books, there might be photographs, you know, and you know, people telling the tale that are still around, that are still out of their ancestors, then that's more believable.
[58:50]
Serena Pitt
The game of telephone hasn't even gotten long enough for you to put in something silly.
[58:56]
Podcast Host 1
That being said, there's already Holocaust deniers.
[58:59]
Serena Pitt
That's true.
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Podcast Host 1
You know what I'm saying? That's like, especially with the way things are working now. And you see, like I'm speaking more to specifically Americans. You see how the misinformation goes. I don't know, man. There's. There's people who, via the media that they intake here are on a completely different narrative of things that are happening. Qanon is people believe that shit. And that's, that's real time.
[59:24]
Serena Pitt
I guess. I wonder how many people Genuinely are Holocaust deniers. And how many? How many?
[59:30]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah, there's gotta be a small amount.
[59:32]
Serena Pitt
It's probably a very tiny amount. And a lot of bad actors. Yeah, I do. It's not that. I don't think that they're denying. I don't think anybody is legitimately denying the death, the deaths. I think what they deny is who made up the deaths and why they did it.
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Podcast Host 1
I don't think they try to deny, like, the magnitude too.
[59:51]
Serena Pitt
And that's what I mean is, like, I think they'll say, like, all right, it happened, but it wasn't 6 million people.
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DSW Advertiser
It was 4.8.
[59:58]
Serena Pitt
Yeah, it happened, but it wasn't Jews exclusively. They were getting. They were doing this. And like, I saw a video the other day of a dude being like. Like, the Holocaust happened because Hitler was trying to get rid of the gay culture that was invading Germany. It had nothing debating. Yeah. He was like.
[60:17]
Podcast Host 1
It was about. These are crazy.
[60:21]
Serena Pitt
He was like, bro, wake up. He was doing the right thing. He was trying to get rid of the gays people.
[60:27]
DSW Advertiser
Really.
[60:28]
Podcast Host 1
Yo, homophobic people love to use, like, penetrative language for how they talk to. He's invading it.
[60:35]
DSW Advertiser
They were taking it.
[60:37]
Podcast Host 1
Booty snatching. Remember?
[60:38]
DSW Advertiser
What's the old dude name? You are gay dude.
[60:42]
Podcast Host 1
That's one of our drops.
[60:44]
DSW Advertiser
Why are you gay? Who says I'm gay? You are gay. He just started following me on. Whoa. Congratulations, yo. I feel like I made it. I was like, yo, this dude.
[60:58]
Serena Pitt
That's awesome.
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DSW Advertiser
Oh, my God. He has a whole Instagram account. He posts videos. He's, you know, he's still a lot of similar content. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But at this point, because I think I want to say, say through looking at his Instagram, he has videos with gay people and, like, trans people where he's, like, making fun of himself.
[61:18]
Podcast Host 1
Oh, so he's, like, aware.
[61:20]
DSW Advertiser
Aware now that. Okay, maybe that was stupid.
[61:22]
Podcast Host 1
Okay.
[61:23]
DSW Advertiser
You know what I mean? You know, and then that and that now he's come to terms with the idea that he is the most memeable person.
[61:30]
Podcast Host 1
So he's like, I could buy the merch.
[61:32]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
[61:33]
Serena Pitt
No, I think I, I.
[61:34]
Podcast Host 1
You ever bought the merch early on somebody and it didn't go well?
[61:37]
Serena Pitt
No. Who'd you buy the merch on, man?
[61:39]
Podcast Host 1
That nigga. I like pogs the thick toxic. It was just pandemic. And I was in the crib and he had merch, and it was so funny. But then I bought. Bro, this is actually crazy. I bought the shirt and it was a shirt. It was a picture of the guy. It said Pog Nation on it, which I'm not. That's not even my get down. It said Pog Nation on it, and then it said donald Trump, you dumb. And I was like, this is the funniest shirt. I bought it during Pandemic. And then one day, my friend called me, and he was like. It was like. It was like seven in the morning. He was like, I have to come over. I have to tell you something. And I thought he was gonna tell me something cool about his career or something like that. So I was like, oh, let me put on this funny T shirt. And he comes over and he's like, my mom died. Who was like a mother to me. And I'm like, crying. And then I get up, I was like, I wish I wasn't wearing this shirt.
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DSW Advertiser
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Podcast Host 1
Shout out to Sam Talent.
[62:39]
Serena Pitt
Oh, no.
[62:40]
Podcast Host 1
Yeah, but I got this. I got the shirt too early. And that guy never became self aware. And then it was just like a terrible shirt.
[62:47]
Serena Pitt
Terrible trauma happened to you while wearing the worst shirt in your head.
[62:51]
Podcast Host 1
And then now, like, when we were moving, my girl's like, I hate that shirt. And I'm like, I have to keep it. Yeah, yeah, I understand. You hate everything about it. There's nothing on this shirt you like, right?
[63:04]
DSW Advertiser
I have a friend. I had a friend. His name is Radio Raheem. No, I know. You know Radio. You know, Radio boxing announcer. Dude is. He's been on my podcast before, but he's, like, a great friend of mine. Yeah, he's. But he's also one of the funniest people who's not a comedian. Like, he's so funny. I mean, he's surrounded by comedians. Chappelle's his best friend. Like these, you know, he's surrounded by just comedy. But he. When my daughter was born, I had like a. Like a. Like a little party at the house. Hey, my daughter's here. Blah, blah, blah, blah. This nigga brings me a gift. Is the shirt that said, you are not the father.
[63:40]
Podcast Host 1
That's so funny.
[63:41]
DSW Advertiser
You are the worst person.
[63:43]
Serena Pitt
That's great.
[63:44]
Podcast Host 1
I love the worst.
[63:46]
Serena Pitt
I'm just gonna throw a little doubt in there. Yeah, go ahead.
[63:51]
DSW Advertiser
Put that on. At a weird time.
[63:52]
Podcast Host 1
Yeah, I know.
[63:53]
DSW Advertiser
Very awkward time. My daughter's getting on my nerves.
[63:56]
Serena Pitt
Yeah.
[63:57]
DSW Advertiser
When she gets much older, when she's, like, 18 and, you know, she don't give a fuck about me no more, but that sure don't.
[64:03]
Podcast Host 1
This.
[64:04]
Serena Pitt
I got it on the show. Little show.
[64:08]
DSW Advertiser
I Did called Maury.
[64:12]
Serena Pitt
Povich, if you nasty. So you're not bought in on this settling of Ireland, France?
[64:21]
Podcast Host 1
No, I don't think that's real.
[64:22]
DSW Advertiser
No, no.
[64:22]
Serena Pitt
Not bought in.
[64:23]
Podcast Host 1
Here's the thing, bro. Sometimes it's like, we don't have to have. Not everything has to be us. There's other people.
[64:30]
Serena Pitt
Yeah.
[64:30]
Podcast Host 1
You know what I'm saying? It's fine if we. Like, that doesn't detract from us that we didn't. Okay. Bosnia is not ours. I think we'll be okay. You know what I'm saying? I think sometimes Bosnia. Now, that's what I'm saying. I think sometimes it's like, easy. It becomes this thing, especially when a section of your history is taken, that you want to glom onto anything that has some sort of validity in the way that, like, the Western world, that a France does or a Russia does. But it's like, we don't even, bro. We got.
[65:03]
DSW Advertiser
But what if.
[65:04]
Podcast Host 1
Why you hate Africa so much?
[65:05]
DSW Advertiser
But what if.
[65:06]
Serena Pitt
See, this is why I like the way you play Lamorne. Because.
[65:09]
DSW Advertiser
But what if we were to ranch and all of it. What if we were every.
[65:14]
Serena Pitt
What. What if niggas are the equivalent of people that you argued with? And then they go, so.
[65:20]
DSW Advertiser
You know what I mean? It's like, well, I can't come back to you.
[65:23]
Serena Pitt
I told you I gave you everything. So. So it's like, well, all right. Well, fine. I don't know. What do you want me to do you a. So.
[65:33]
DSW Advertiser
So.
[65:34]
Serena Pitt
All right, fine.
[65:35]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah. So, I mean, I'm just saying, what if I don't believe it.
[65:40]
Serena Pitt
Yeah.
[65:40]
DSW Advertiser
But again, I also just said that I wouldn't be shocked if there were lizard people, so that is not far fetched.
[65:49]
Serena Pitt
Yeah.
[65:49]
Podcast Host 1
I mean, we're in deep waters. We're in deep waters.
[65:52]
Serena Pitt
He goes on to say, as it relates to the iron. Bobby Hemming.
[65:55]
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
[65:55]
DSW Advertiser
Okay.
[65:56]
Serena Pitt
Bobby Hemming. He says that the Allegory of St Patrick running all those snakes out of Ireland is actually a reference to Saint Patrice. To snake people. The black folks.
[66:09]
DSW Advertiser
The black snakes.
[66:10]
Serena Pitt
Yeah.
[66:10]
Podcast Host 1
Black snake mole.
[66:11]
Serena Pitt
Yep. Out of Ireland. And he says the river dances. Black.
[66:15]
Podcast Host 1
The river dance, I could see.
[66:18]
Serena Pitt
Yeah.
[66:18]
DSW Advertiser
It's very similar to a crip walk. Very similar.
[66:22]
Serena Pitt
It reminded me of footworking.
[66:25]
DSW Advertiser
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[66:27]
Serena Pitt
Oh, boy.
[66:27]
Podcast Host 1
Who got famous off that shit? Remember him?
[66:29]
Serena Pitt
Footworking?
[66:30]
Podcast Host 1
No. Nobody off a river. Dead.
[66:34]
DSW Advertiser
The lord of the rivers.
[66:35]
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
[66:35]
DSW Advertiser
The lord of the dead.
[66:36]
Podcast Host 1
What happened to him?
[66:37]
Serena Pitt
I think he got in trouble. Oh, he was the lord of something else.
[66:44]
DSW Advertiser
Damn.
[66:46]
Podcast Host 1
Lord of Dance Taking all my heroes.
[66:49]
Serena Pitt
Yeah, I think he. I don't think he ended up too good, but.
[66:52]
Podcast Host 1
Yeah, I didn't know that.
[66:52]
Serena Pitt
Yeah.
[66:53]
DSW Advertiser
So, so, so, so river dances. Black folks. Black folks started that.
[66:57]
Podcast Host 1
That.
[66:57]
Serena Pitt
That's what Bobby Hemmitt says.
[66:58]
Podcast Host 1
Yeah, I like that part.
[67:00]
Serena Pitt
You like that part. You're willing to buy into that, but not us.
[67:03]
Podcast Host 1
I'm not. I'm saying I like that part better than I like the other part.
[67:07]
Serena Pitt
It's your favorite part of the story.
[67:08]
Podcast Host 1
Yeah. Yeah.
[67:09]
Serena Pitt
I got you.
[67:09]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah.
[67:10]
Serena Pitt
You feel the same?
[67:11]
Podcast Host 1
I don't know.
[67:12]
DSW Advertiser
It could be true. Cause you know n love to dance.
[67:14]
Serena Pitt
We do.
[67:15]
DSW Advertiser
We be dancing.
[67:16]
Serena Pitt
We do.
[67:16]
DSW Advertiser
And we be the best at it. Yeah. That's got the creams coming.
[67:20]
Podcast Host 1
Koreans coming up, though.
[67:21]
DSW Advertiser
Oh, man, they're moving fast.
[67:25]
Serena Pitt
They're moving fast.
[67:26]
DSW Advertiser
You know, I think. I think everybody's gifted at something. And it's just with the new, like, you'll say, oh, you know, black folks are gifted. That, you know, athletically, this. Or they'll say, you know, the stereotypes. Oh, we can hoop and we can do all these things. And I just go with the way we take in information due to the Internet, you know, and everyone's sharing cultural ideas from across the world. You know, you're seeing more and more Europeans who are busting our ass in basketball.
[67:52]
Podcast Host 1
Come on.
[67:53]
DSW Advertiser
Asians dance in circles around us.
[67:55]
Podcast Host 1
It used to be two guys. It used to be two European guys. It was Pedro Stojakovic and Vladi Diva, and now that was it.
[68:03]
Serena Pitt
Arvidas, if you. If you. A little bit.
[68:10]
DSW Advertiser
But now you. I mean, come on, now.
[68:11]
Serena Pitt
Joker is like, yeah, no, he's the best.
[68:14]
Podcast Host 1
That's why I'm worried. They're going to invent a new sport and keep us out. That's the worry. What are we going to do with pickleball Gets out?
[68:20]
Serena Pitt
I think they tried with pickleball.
[68:22]
Podcast Host 1
Pickleball is not athletic, though.
[68:24]
Serena Pitt
Like, I think they thought they could start there and maybe it would catch on so well that it would, like, become this full unearthing. I think that's also why we keep hearing, like, the NBA numbers are down. Like, I think they're really trying to pivot off of our shit.
[68:38]
Podcast Host 1
Really?
[68:38]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah, I believe so. Well, you know, you think about how global the NBA is becoming, and you talk about all the different regions in which they're trying to push teams or expand the league. You know, LeBron is pushing for a Vegas team, but more than likely, that won't happen. More than likely they'll Get a team in London, you know what I mean? A European. They're going to start the European sector of the NBA before they start. Start, you know, and like, I mean.
[69:01]
Podcast Host 1
If they get basketball hooligans over there, I'm gonna be so mad. I'll be so mad about basket basketball firms.
[69:10]
Serena Pitt
It's gonna get crazy. Because it's like that golf league that they started.
[69:13]
DSW Advertiser
Oh, yeah, indoor golf league.
[69:15]
Serena Pitt
Yeah, the one that, that like, you basically ate the pga. Just because they were like, no, we're gonna do it over here.
[69:21]
DSW Advertiser
Talking about in Saudi Arabia. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[69:24]
Serena Pitt
Where they were like, nah, we're just gonna do it it bigger, better and pay them more. And then everybody was like, yeah, I'm gonna go over there. I don't give a fuck about these green jackets.
[69:31]
DSW Advertiser
Talk about conspiracy theories. Yeah. Let's just talk about it for a second. The biggest conspiracy theorist on the planet earth is who?
[69:39]
Podcast Host 1
Bobby Hebbett?
[69:41]
DSW Advertiser
I would say Alex Jones.
[69:42]
Serena Pitt
Oh, Alex Jones.
[69:43]
Podcast Host 1
Oh, yeah, yeah.
[69:43]
Serena Pitt
Famously.
[69:44]
DSW Advertiser
Famously conspiracy, you know, turning the freaking frog screen. Yeah, yeah. He had something, he said something about it. He goes, I just got word, I just got word from a really good Source, inside source. LeBron James is selling off all his property. He's selling his property. He's moving to Europe. And people were like, what the fuck? Why is he doing that? Then it comes out allegedly that Maverick Carter and all these different folks are putting together. They were raising a fund, five point something billion dollars to start a European league, bro.
[70:16]
Podcast Host 1
I was like, pop culture, well, that's so bad. Once pop culture leaves here, we're cooked. You know that, right?
[70:22]
Serena Pitt
Yeah.
[70:22]
Podcast Host 1
Once our pop culture, our credit is up, it's. It's because you don't want to be.
[70:28]
Serena Pitt
Pop culture are all we have left.
[70:29]
Podcast Host 1
Yeah. You don't want to be here if it isn't for that.
[70:32]
Serena Pitt
No.
[70:32]
DSW Advertiser
Right.
[70:33]
Podcast Host 1
Because those people over there, they like our pop culture. But that's because they never been to Kansas City.
[70:38]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah.
[70:39]
Podcast Host 1
Or that's not crazy, but like, they've never been to Indiana.
[70:43]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah.
[70:43]
Podcast Host 1
I think we can all agree that's the worst place.
[70:49]
Serena Pitt
It's the whole little area. No, thanks.
[70:50]
DSW Advertiser
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[70:52]
Serena Pitt
No, no, no.
[70:55]
Podcast Host 1
And that's gonna. And I worry what that's gonna do to us as a people, specifically if our pop culture cachet runs out and we do not. And we have invested so heavily in that. I mean, I think it's. I think it's a chance to pivot in a Positive point. But it seems like it could be, like, difficult.
[71:15]
Serena Pitt
I think that's why black people have such a hard time with. With appropriation in the first place, is that we are watching our last true recognized value be usurped by someone else.
[71:29]
Podcast Host 1
By European.
[71:30]
Serena Pitt
Yeah. And you go, like, bro, no, I invented that shit. And then they go, well, anybody could have invented it. It could have come from anywhere. And that drives. That's crazy.
[71:41]
DSW Advertiser
But I also think there is. I think there's a movement towards the opposite. Opposite side of that. Again, with information. There's people who don't subscribe to that. You know what I mean? They're like, that's cool. But that's not all the black folks, you know what I mean? Black folks are doing all kinds of stuff all over our country. And so, you know, if it is a. For me, us, you know, our currency shouldn't be only in that.
[72:09]
Podcast Host 1
No, you know what?
[72:10]
DSW Advertiser
At all. Not at all. And if it. And if, like you said, if it does. If it is an eye opening thing for black folks to go, you know what, Let me explore all of my talents more than, you know, how cool I look. Let me explore everything.
[72:23]
Podcast Host 1
We can keep fat as well, though. I don't think that's gonna go.
[72:28]
DSW Advertiser
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's 100% true. That will always stay there.
[72:32]
Serena Pitt
We stay cool, but we also learn to.
[72:34]
DSW Advertiser
There's so much we know how to do.
[72:36]
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
[72:36]
DSW Advertiser
You know what I mean?
[72:37]
Serena Pitt
But build rocket ships.
[72:38]
DSW Advertiser
Exactly.
[72:38]
Serena Pitt
Yeah, I got you.
[72:39]
DSW Advertiser
Exactly.
[72:40]
Podcast Host 1
Rocket science.
[72:41]
Serena Pitt
Whoa. You got it too.
[72:44]
Podcast Host 1
You got it. All right, that's fair. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. That's.
[72:47]
Serena Pitt
You gotta take it easy. I think we did it. I think, I mean, we did it.
[72:54]
DSW Advertiser
Yeah.
[72:54]
Podcast Host 1
No, if we keep going. I'm a really Hammer.
[72:56]
Serena Pitt
This guy's out of his mind.
[72:58]
DSW Advertiser
I think we solved some things today.
[72:59]
Serena Pitt
I think we did too. I genuinely think what if nothing else we all seem to have landed on? History does not start and stop where the history books have told us and certainly cannot be trusted to remain in the hands of the people that gave it to us in the first place. It is a shared history and everybody should be contributing to the larger conversation, even if it's not written down the way we thought.
[73:25]
DSW Advertiser
Right? Yeah.
[73:26]
Serena Pitt
All right. You want to tell the people where they can find you what cool shit you got going on?
[73:30]
DSW Advertiser
Oh, man. You can find. You can just go to my ig, you know, Lamorne. L A M O R N E. I update it all the time. My podcast is called the Lamorne After Podcast. Also, I have one for the new girl fans out there called the Mess around with Myself and Hannah Simone. So you can find me there. Yeah, Saturday night just came out on Netflix, so make sure you check that out. Also, I'm currently in production on a show called Spider Noir, let's Go with Nicolas Cage. And so I can't talk more about it, but when it comes out, please make sure you check it out.
[74:04]
Serena Pitt
I'm excited.
[74:05]
DSW Advertiser
That's good, man. Yeah, you find me everywhere. I'm outside. I'm literally outside all the time.
[74:10]
Serena Pitt
Yeah, we keep saying, lamar, get in the house. And he said, no.
[74:13]
DSW Advertiser
I said, nope, I can't find it. I've been drinking.
[74:16]
Serena Pitt
I'm drunk.
[74:17]
DSW Advertiser
I'm drunk again.
[74:19]
Serena Pitt
This stuff makes me sick. I'm allergic to this shit. Boy, what you got?
[74:28]
Podcast Host 1
You can find me in the house with that naked cat. Not getting in no kind of trouble. You ain't got to worry about old David now. Cool guy jokes 87 on Instagram patreon.com davidbourry Buy my special Birth of a Nation and then come see me do stand up. Yeah, it's real good. My stand up's moving right now.
[74:46]
Serena Pitt
Okay. Hell yeah.
[74:46]
Podcast Host 1
Oh, yeah.
[74:47]
Serena Pitt
You're always funny, but you feeling extra funny right now.
[74:49]
Podcast Host 1
I feel like I am better than I was the last special.
[74:52]
DSW Advertiser
You know what? I thought you were gonna say, I feel like I am better than you.
[74:56]
Podcast Host 1
That would be. I'll be honest. Fade to black.
[75:01]
DSW Advertiser
It must be really nice.
[75:02]
Serena Pitt
I'll be honest. I would a. But I would have thought about it alone. That would have been the whole car ride home. Did that nigga mean Is he serious? Why did he say that to me?
[75:14]
Podcast Host 1
Art's not comparative. Except for you bum ass standups out there. You know you suck.
[75:22]
Serena Pitt
You can follow me at Langston Kerman on all social media platforms March 29th through the 31st. You can also see me at the Vermont Comedy Club. And if you want to send us your own drop show.
[75:35]
Podcast Host 1
Wait, are we doing march? Can I do. I got two marches.
[75:38]
Serena Pitt
Yeah, go ahead.
[75:39]
Podcast Host 1
March 1st, you can see me at the Carco theater in Renton, Washington, next to Seattle. March 14, I'm gonna be at the Comedy Commonwealth in Cincinnati. And March 15th, I'm gonna be at the Comedy Corner Underground in Minneapolis.
[75:51]
Serena Pitt
Hell yeah. And if you wanna send us your own drops, your own conspiracy theories, if you want to tell us black people also are indigenous to Antarctica, send it all to mamapodmail.com we would love to hear from you. You buy the merch rate, subscribe, review and most importantly Bye bitch. The government growing babies microchips in your babies all koala bears are racist. The ozone layer owes any money. Marshall's definite turkey stuff.
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Podcast Host 1
Y'all can't tell me nothing.
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Serena Pitt
With the.
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