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Nicole Byer
I especially love that doctor kid.
David Burie
He's the best.
Nicole Byer
He. He's doing it.
David Burie
Dr. Malachi, love will not be stopped.
Nicole Byer
And I love it.
Langston Kerman
He's habitual.
Nicole Byer
He's so funny.
David Burie
Yeah. He reminds us. And each person here holds a special value, but he reminds us of the importance of persistence.
Nicole Byer
Yes.
David Burie
Of fighting for what you believe in.
Nicole Byer
Do you know about the nurse in Florida?
David Burie
No. Tell us more.
Nicole Byer
She pretended to be a nurse for 10 years. And the only reason why she got caught is because she got a promotion and they found out she faked her registration or her nurse's license or whatever. Yeah. But then they fired her. But I was like, but no complaints. She went above and beyond facts.
Langston Kerman
She got a promotion.
Nicole Byer
Let her be a nurse.
Langston Kerman
Facts.
Nicole Byer
She's better than some nurses.
Langston Kerman
I think maybe street smarts is as good as book smarts. That's what I've been saying.
David Burie
You've already acknowledged that she is.
Nicole Byer
That she did a good job.
David Burie
She's the best in your department. Certainly you promoted her to the head of it.
Nicole Byer
There was also a pilot who I think was flying for 10 years. No license.
David Burie
That's.
Nicole Byer
And I don't remember how they figured that out.
David Burie
I bet he did a flip.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Yeah. He's a little tumble. He's a little tumble. Oopsie daisy. He landed it upside down.
David Burie
I bet he tried to do some cool shit and was feeling a little high, you know, feeling high on the.
Langston Kerman
He said, I'm whipping this bitch.
David Burie
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
I'm going crazy up here. Niggas can't catch me.
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And then.
Langston Kerman
And then. That's how you get caught.
Nicole Byer
And then.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, yeah, I can see that. I can see that. That would happen to me.
David Burie
He's like, I bet we could get to New York in about three and a half.
Langston Kerman
Hey, we push this thing.
David Burie
Sarah good.
Langston Kerman
To Dallas by noon. Sarah, don't get to Dallas fight. Because we've been growing bab microchips in your anus. All koala bears are racist. The ozone layer owes me money. Marshy's invented dirty stuff. Y' all can't tell me nothing. It was a stormy night. You know, the kind where a lightning strikes. And I was hanging out with some of my artsy friends. Ooey. Oo. Welcome, little mamas and gentiles alike, to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told
David Burie
Me the podcast where we. We dive deep, deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theory and we work to prove nothing.
Langston Kerman
You will not learn anything from us. We have nothing for you.
David Burie
Honestly. We checked recently and no one has gained anything from this experience.
Langston Kerman
In fact, a lot of people actively losing.
David Burie
We are hoping to do A census survey this year just to see if anybody accidentally bumps into a learning moment from this podcast. And I cannot imagine that will be true.
Langston Kerman
And we'd rather you did it. Yeah. I have something I'd like to bring up.
David Burie
Yes, please.
Langston Kerman
Right, Everybody's here. It's not a conspiracy. It's just something that I've been thinking about a lot lately. I think as a 38 year old black man, I have to acknowledge this. And it's been difficult, but I think it's real. And I think these are. You are two good people to bring it up. I struggle with the day to day in and out mechanics of being fresh. And that's tough for me.
David Burie
Like dressing. Well, getting dressed up.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Burie
Is hard for you.
Langston Kerman
I've had three things recently that have told me this is a problem you need to confront.
Nicole Byer
Oh, yeah.
Langston Kerman
Three different things in the past, like, probably two weeks.
David Burie
And do you think that that is rooted in some. Something in you or, like, what's happening? That's.
Langston Kerman
I think it's just a skill I never acquired in a real way. And I think that when you're a kid, like a teen tween, you just dress like Lloyd Banks and you'll be fine.
David Burie
That's true.
Nicole Byer
Sure.
Langston Kerman
But then, as you become a man now, they're not even making three XLG units anywhere.
Nicole Byer
Yes.
David Burie
We don't know how to store a store.
Nicole Byer
But can I ask, how much time are you giving yourself to get dressed today? Just in general, like, in a rough
Langston Kerman
estimate, if, like, if me and my wife are going on a date, I'm planning it all day and I'm still blowing it. I'm, like, thinking about it and, like, thinking about combinations and things. The problem is I just don't know what. I buy a lot of stuff that doesn't work. And then I feel like I gotta do. Cause. Can I tell you the things that happen?
Nicole Byer
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
First thing, I was in New Orleans. I thought it would be funny to wear a short set as a joke. I was like, oh, look at me. I'm such a zany comedian.
Nicole Byer
Okay.
Langston Kerman
And then Langston was like, I think this actually might be the look for you. But then I got.
David Burie
He looked really handsome.
Nicole Byer
I'm sure you did.
Langston Kerman
But then I got scared because I was like, no, this is a lark. I don't know what I'm doing here.
Nicole Byer
So you don't wanna be looked at?
Langston Kerman
Not always. And then the second thing that happened, my brother kind of hoed me out fashion wise. I was in San Francisco. I did a show I called my brother, who also lives in San Francisco. He says, I can't hang out with you right now. I'm in a fashion show.
Nicole Byer
Okay, okay.
Langston Kerman
Let's meet up after the fashion show. We meet up after his fashion show. He showed up, and this nigga looked like Esmeralda from the Hunchback of Notre Dame. In a cool way. He looked like he was in the past and the future at the same fucking time.
Nicole Byer
And this is.
Langston Kerman
We have the same family.
Nicole Byer
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
And I'm wearing a hoodie. He has a scarf. He looked like Sam Kinison. It was fucked. And then the third thing, I was in the gym, feeling good about my body, but dressed dumb because I got all these bigger shirts. And then I tuck them in.
Nicole Byer
So then it makes me tuck them in at the gym.
Langston Kerman
I know, man. It just. I need to.
David Burie
The gym's a complicated place.
Langston Kerman
I need to move back.
David Burie
A lot of people tuck in in ways that you wouldn't expect.
Langston Kerman
I need to move better, right? So I'm tucked in, and then I think I might look like a little boy. I'm tucked in. My beard is shaved. I go up to try to. Nicky, this is. You know how hard it is? No, this. Cause I'm trying to come open.
Nicole Byer
I'm listening. I'm here for you.
David Burie
I'm here.
Nicole Byer
I'm trying to understand this. Thank you. Okay.
Langston Kerman
I'm tucked in. So I look crazy. But I'm feeling good about my body. Cause I'm pushing weight that day. And I go to try to work in with this kid. Child boy, 17 at most. And I try to work in with it. Skinny kid, too. Not even a buff kid. I'm just like. I got. I want to hit triceps, too. I want to get out of here. I asked to work out with him. I go in. My tendonitis is flaring up my tennis elbow. I can't do it. I'm like, oh, man.
David Burie
Ow.
Langston Kerman
I can't do it. I tell him I'm just going to go. I can't even do it. He starts talking to me as if we're peers, as if I'm a. Another boy. He's like, oh, well, what are you doing? Maybe you should try the ropes. And I'm like, does this Nigga think I'm 18? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I look and I look like a little boy. I'm scared like a little boy.
Nicole Byer
You look young.
Langston Kerman
That's what was happening. He said, I see a novice just like myself. He said, I'm weak in this environment. And I'm trying to make the next weakest friend.
David Burie
He said, this little boy needs a
Langston Kerman
mentor so we could have a weak man alliance.
Nicole Byer
A weak man alliance. I wanted to take over LA Fitness.
Langston Kerman
How'd you know? How'd you know? How'd you know what gym it was?
Nicole Byer
Why don't you buy gym clothes? Like, why don't you buy, like, clothes?
Langston Kerman
I have gym bottoms. I'm yelling. He, that's not fair.
David Burie
He's lost a lot of weight recently.
Nicole Byer
Yes.
Langston Kerman
Over. Over a year, though. Not like that recently.
David Burie
And has. Yeah, but that's refused recently, as they refused to.
Langston Kerman
I don't like, I don't like how this is coming out.
David Burie
He is not actively updating his wardrobe. He sort of is waiting for checkpoints.
Langston Kerman
I'm trying, I'm trying. I just got these shorts. They're great.
David Burie
You look handsome.
Langston Kerman
Give us some money.
Nicole Byer
Give me some money. Old Navy pays you to take their clothes.
Langston Kerman
But I do think, well, I need my $12 back.
Nicole Byer
I think. Cause I've also lost weight. And you hit a point where you're like, I don't know what size I am. I don't know what looks good on me.
Langston Kerman
I don't even know what to do.
Nicole Byer
Should I buy new stuff? What if I gain it back? So I think you gotta just treat yourself. Go shopping, try on a bunch of shit and figure out what silhouettes look good on you.
Langston Kerman
I don't even know what you mean by that. I almost signed up for Thread Beast this morning.
Nicole Byer
For what?
Langston Kerman
For money?
David Burie
Yeah, don't do that.
Langston Kerman
I, that's. I, I, I didn't pull the trigger of what I got to.
Nicole Byer
What's Thread Beast?
Langston Kerman
They're like, hey, do you look stupid? We'll send you a box of shit every month.
David Burie
Yeah. They're like, we'll pick your outfit for you.
Nicole Byer
Oh, no, don't do that.
Langston Kerman
No, I didn't, I didn't. I got, I got clo. And it's also because my wife looks great, but she is too nice. So she's always just like, I just want you to feel comfortable with yourself. And whatever makes you feel com. Like we'll be going somewhere. I'm like, does this look cool? And she's like, I just want you to feel comfortable. And I'm like, no, bitch, you're gonna have me out here.
David Burie
And that's why I think.
Langston Kerman
I don't mean bitch. I was just very anxious now with you.
Nicole Byer
I know.
David Burie
No, we know what you meant.
Langston Kerman
Don't do that. Don't do that.
David Burie
We all Get Dale.
Langston Kerman
He's mad because he can't drive the X4. You remember that?
David Burie
But I do think ultimately part of what I saw in you in New Orleans was you exploring outside of your comfort zone in a way that is important for fashion. I think fashion at its core is putting on something that you're like, well, this actually makes me a little bit uncomfortable. And I'm going to challenge myself to make that silhouette or that feeling, that texture, whatever the fuck it is, feel natural in a way that I didn't feel before. That is what trends.
Langston Kerman
That's scary. That sounds scary.
David Burie
Yeah, it sucks. It's a God coming down and being like, this year, mesh is in. And then you just gotta be like, mesh on.
Nicole Byer
All right, how do I figure out mesh?
David Burie
Fuck, I wear mesh.
Langston Kerman
Now you guys know who you're talking to. Mesh is not the hard thing.
David Burie
Yeah, but the way you wear mesh and the way they mean it ain't the same thing. And that's the.
Langston Kerman
See, I know that you're helping. That hurt. It hurt the way he said that.
Nicole Byer
You don't have to follow trends. You can find like, classic pieces that you like.
Langston Kerman
Polo, Ralph Lauren, shout out to what they've done. Give me some money for the big guy community. If you're a fat guy and you got some polo.
David Burie
They really did.
Langston Kerman
They helped us out a lot.
David Burie
For a high end brand, they really stayed loyal by keeping that 3xL.
Nicole Byer
A lot of men's brands go up to a 3, 4xL. Women, though, Gucci goes up to a 4xL or 3xL or something like that.
David Burie
That feels like a recent, I just bought a car.
Langston Kerman
I can't also get some Gucci.
Nicole Byer
That's okay. All right.
Langston Kerman
Not until we get acquired by whoever we need to get acquired by.
David Burie
Yeah, not until that chip gets in me.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. Yeah.
Nicole Byer
You also could go on Pinterest and look at things that you like and pin them and then go find outfits that look like that. But that's a lot of work.
Langston Kerman
In the same way that I would go to get like a fruit punch recipe. A punch recipe?
Nicole Byer
Mm, sure. Yeah. If that's what you're looking. You're looking for fruit punch recipes.
Langston Kerman
Punch. Punch it. Punch.
Nicole Byer
How often are you making fruit punch?
Langston Kerman
I fantasize a lot more than I go and practice.
Nicole Byer
Well, summer's coming. I think you can make some punch.
Langston Kerman
No, it's so.
David Burie
I think you can make a lot of calories in a short set.
Nicole Byer
You could make it less calorie dense.
Langston Kerman
Oh. Like maybe have like a zero soda base.
David Burie
Hey, don't run from this.
Langston Kerman
Do they have a sugar free shirt?
David Burie
Don't run from this. You can put on a short set. Well, you could look beautiful.
Nicole Byer
Yeah, you could bring the fruit punch in your short set.
Langston Kerman
I wanted to wear the short set today. I was looking at it.
Nicole Byer
Why didn't you?
David Burie
Blew me out.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, he already saw me in it.
David Burie
It's not a great day for a short set.
Langston Kerman
It's not a great. I'm wearing shorts. Don't please.
David Burie
You like what you see?
Nicole Byer
Oh, I'm so horny.
David Burie
Just know there's more of that where that comes from.
Langston Kerman
That's the one thing. There's enough of his shorts. There's more shorts.
Nicole Byer
Do you wear jeans?
Langston Kerman
Rarely. And if I do, it's just 501s. And that's only because I thought. I think. I really thought I liked how Doughboy looked. Mm. I always was like. I always wanted a uniform. I always was like, if I could just find four things that are going,
Nicole Byer
so why don't you do that?
Langston Kerman
I mean, I guess I could. I gotta get some more jeans.
Nicole Byer
Cause I got a little uniform. When I travel, I wear a little striped shirt and jeans. And then when I do shows, just
David Burie
on stage, for the most part. Yeah, Yeah. I desperately want an on stage uniform.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, yeah.
Nicole Byer
It's just easy. Cause, like, when I travel, I go, all right, I got three shows, so let's throw three striped shirts in there and three pairs of jeans and I'm good to go.
David Burie
But I want my uniform to be cool enough. And that's the hard part about it, is, like, you can either make it so plain that, like, it's indistinguishable, or you make it so cool that it becomes a little bit of, like, D Ray putting that blue vest on. You know what I mean? I don't want that.
Nicole Byer
No, that's not.
David Burie
I need something that just. You barely even notice it. But that motherfucker wear them same clothes every time.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, I'm okay with that. I've always thought, I love a Doug funny, man.
David Burie
I would love a Doug funny.
Nicole Byer
A Doug funny.
Langston Kerman
It would be so cool. Literally, a Doug funny.
David Burie
Our guest today is no Doug funny. She is.
Langston Kerman
She's funny.
David Burie
She's funny.
Nicole Byer
Wow.
Langston Kerman
He's no Dougie.
Nicole Byer
She's like. So I'm not funny.
David Burie
Is Doug the funniest part of Doug?
Nicole Byer
I don't.
Langston Kerman
No, he's the least funny.
Nicole Byer
I don't think he's.
David Burie
You never watched Doug?
Nicole Byer
I didn't grow up with cable. Did he come on cable.
Langston Kerman
Wow.
David Burie
No, he was abc. He was Saturday Morning.
Langston Kerman
Well, he was on One Big Saturday Morning, but he started on Nickelodeon.
Nicole Byer
Oh, okay. So maybe I saw it later. I also was not up early enough to watch Saturday morning cartoons.
Langston Kerman
Wow. You were a cool kid.
Nicole Byer
I love sleeping. I would sleep till noon as a kid.
Langston Kerman
Damn, that's amazing.
David Burie
Good for you.
Langston Kerman
That's new. I never even thought about either good
David Burie
for you or you got Lyme disease, but one of the other.
Nicole Byer
I hope I don't have Lyme disease.
David Burie
Go ahead, press the button.
Nicole Byer
Press it.
David Burie
We all are waiting.
Nicole Byer
No, no, no. I'm waiting.
David Burie
We want it to happen.
Nicole Byer
It's gonna be really good.
Langston Kerman
It's not gonna be good.
Nicole Byer
Hold on. I'd rather check myself before I wreck myself.
Langston Kerman
Woo.
Nicole Byer
Woo.
David Burie
Nicole Byer is here, y'.
Noah Kahan
All.
Langston Kerman
She's so funny.
David Burie
She's great. We're excited that she's here.
Nicole Byer
Thank you for having me. What a treat.
Langston Kerman
Thank you for coming. This is a good time.
David Burie
This is gonna be a great time. You came to us with a conspiracy.
Nicole Byer
You held your face and said, this is gonna be a great time. Really telegraph at something else.
Langston Kerman
Can I say I think that that is the truest expression of Langston.
David Burie
I think I'm over here with it a lot.
Langston Kerman
And I think he's saying, this is gonna be a great time. But I think that's exactly who I'm making.
David Burie
I'm containing myself.
Langston Kerman
That's who he is.
David Burie
I have to physically do it.
Nicole Byer
All right, then I misread it. I'm illiterate.
David Burie
Nicole, you came to us with a conspiracy theory that we have certainly talked about on this podcast, but not specifically in the way that you're talking about it. But you said.
Nicole Byer
Yes.
David Burie
My mama told me celebrities are being cloned.
Nicole Byer
Yes. Avril Lavigne was replaced, I believe, in 2015 by a woman named Melissa.
Langston Kerman
Wait, you know her name?
Nicole Byer
Avril Lavigne.
Langston Kerman
No, Melissa.
David Burie
Wait, you know the girl who made Skater Boy's name?
Nicole Byer
I think it's Melissa. I actually might be wrong about that.
David Burie
I'm excited either way, but apparently because there's no last name either way.
Nicole Byer
Yeah, yeah, No, I do think she has a last name, but I can't remember it.
David Burie
Yeah, I'm gonna look at it.
Langston Kerman
Can I say, first of all, so you don't think this is a clone situation? You think this is just replaced by a different person?
Nicole Byer
Well, the theory is that Avril Lavigne killed herself in, like, 2015, and then a woman named Melissa became friends with her before that happened. And then Avril taught her how to perform like her. That. I don't know. I don't know why she did that.
David Burie
Melissa Vandella.
Nicole Byer
There we go. Melissa Vandella replaced Avril Lavigne, referred to
David Burie
as a body double.
Nicole Byer
And that's who we're seeing now, because Avril Lavigne's gone.
Langston Kerman
So who knows? Avril is dead in this scenario. Avril, Avril, Avril, Avril.
David Burie
Yeah, we've been saying it. Avril the whole time. Just keep riding on that one, okay?
Langston Kerman
Okay.
David Burie
Okay.
Langston Kerman
It's Canadian. I don't know what they do up there.
David Burie
I like that you were like, avril. Well, real quick, last minute. Avrah.
Langston Kerman
Well. Cause sometimes. You know what I mean? You've been saying it juicy for a long time. And it's Jussie.
David Burie
That's fair. That's fair.
Nicole Byer
You've been saying juicy, have you not?
David Burie
Smollett.
Nicole Byer
I know. Oh, I know.
David Burie
Say it both ways.
Langston Kerman
Smollett. Do you, like, smell Juicy?
Nicole Byer
Smollett. Jussie Smollett. Ooh, Juicy Smollett.
David Burie
It's nice, right?
Nicole Byer
He's funny.
David Burie
Yeah, he is funny.
Nicole Byer
He's real funny.
David Burie
We keep trying to get him here and he keeps saying, no, thank you, but.
Nicole Byer
But why? It's not like he's working.
David Burie
That's not for us to decide.
Nicole Byer
He kind of fucked that one up.
David Burie
And, Nicole, you're not gonna burn this bridge.
Langston Kerman
Why?
David Burie
He means too much to us.
Langston Kerman
Who hasn't been tricked by some buff Nigerian dudes?
David Burie
Yeah, we think you're the victim of the buff Nigerian dudes.
Nicole Byer
The whole thing is so wild, and I love it.
Langston Kerman
It's the craziest shit to do.
Nicole Byer
And then he's got siblings just out there having to live normal lives and be like, yeah, my brother didn't do something crazy.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, yeah.
Nicole Byer
Like, imagine your bro. Whatever. Anyway, Melissa is now Avril.
Langston Kerman
Okay. Yeah, that is. And then. And everybody in her life is just on board with it.
Nicole Byer
I assume so.
Langston Kerman
Or is it, like, the type of thing where she's just so good at it, not many people know. Well, isn't this what the talented Mr. Ripley was about?
David Burie
Um, yeah, sort of. He was replacing people, per se, but it was more he was spending time with them, studying them, and then.
Nicole Byer
And then, like, becoming part of their lives.
David Burie
Yeah, yeah.
Nicole Byer
Matt Damon then kills Jude Law. Yeah, but then doesn't, like, assume Jude Law's life. I think he. Wait, I don't remember.
David Burie
He does.
Langston Kerman
He tells that girl that he's Jude Law, and then they're on the Boat. Oh.
David Burie
And you're led to believe that he has never been. We don't know who this guy has
Nicole Byer
been the whole time.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so. They'll tell us in the comments.
David Burie
Melissa Vandella apparently was born in 2003. They're saying is when we first become aware of her. And it is during a video shoot under My Skin, 2004. That during the photo shoot in which you can see the name Melissa written on Avril Lavigne's hand, that that is like part of the evidence they're using that this person was cloned. I think if I'm remembering correctly, it came from her being.
Nicole Byer
Yeah. Melissa was like, sad or like upset about the ruse and was like trying to tell people.
David Burie
Well, she was. She was the hired to distract paparazzi.
Nicole Byer
Oh.
David Burie
She was a body double for Avril Lavigne. She would go over there. TMZ would be like, avril, Avril. And she'd run. And then Avril could have a normal afternoon.
Langston Kerman
Oh.
David Burie
Because this girl looked so much like her.
Langston Kerman
Just doing Avril stuff.
David Burie
Just doing Avril stuff.
Nicole Byer
Skating, skating.
Langston Kerman
Making stuff complicated.
David Burie
Playing guitar, but like moving your hand real far from it.
Nicole Byer
Wearing a tie, watching it out.
Langston Kerman
You're like washing.
David Burie
You know she don't mean business. You know she don't mean business. She putting that tie on, but she
Nicole Byer
don't mean no business.
David Burie
She is here to disrupt this workplace. She is getting written.
Langston Kerman
Having a tie with wristbands is diabolical.
David Burie
It's crazy work.
Nicole Byer
It's a look. She also likes shorts.
David Burie
She did like shorts.
Nicole Byer
Don't.
Langston Kerman
I'm not the same as Abril. I don't have any wristbands anymore.
Nicole Byer
Anymore.
Langston Kerman
We all had them during the Little John era.
David Burie
You never had wristbands?
Nicole Byer
No.
Langston Kerman
We all. But every black man, I think, has had wristbands at some point.
David Burie
There was a point, I would say in the late 90s, early 2000s, where if you didn't have wristbands, you didn't know how to dress.
Langston Kerman
That's what was happening. Ali was on the Kawasaki. Two headbands.
David Burie
Yeah. Remember that? I used to put wristbands on my. On my shins.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. Like Michael Jordan.
David Burie
Yeah, like. And I was like, man, that's. I'm fly today.
Langston Kerman
I tried one time at the Aurora Mall, they would sell packs of wristbands and I bought two of the packs. I tried to do a two in one situation.
Nicole Byer
Uh huh. How'd that go?
Langston Kerman
Ah, it makes your wrist so hot.
David Burie
Yeah, yeah. No, it fat. And again, fashion comes with discomfort.
Langston Kerman
I was thinking about. Okay, I was thinking about that too. About when you're heavier, it's easier to base your idea of fashion on comfort because nothing fits you. Yeah. And then you start to lose weight and you're like, man, I think I might gotta just get some hard sold shoes.
David Burie
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Langston Kerman
Everybody's wearing loafers now.
David Burie
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
I bought some loafers because Will Miles said they were cool.
David Burie
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Have you worn them?
Langston Kerman
No. Oh, no, no.
David Burie
And that is where the decision.
Langston Kerman
I'm going to. I'm going to.
David Burie
And all it's going to take is a few moments of being uncomfortable, and then suddenly you're like, nah, I fuck with loafers.
Langston Kerman
I'm just a loafers guy.
David Burie
I'm a loafers guy.
Nicole Byer
Also, you can get shit tailored. Like if you have a pair of jeans. No, if you have a pair of jeans. Yeah, get them loafers tailored.
David Burie
Little Italian man pulling on your shoes.
Nicole Byer
No, he's little, teeny, teeny, tiny. No, he's so small.
Langston Kerman
He's so small.
David Burie
He works on your shoes. He's small.
Nicole Byer
He's gotta get in the shoe.
Langston Kerman
His name is.
Nicole Byer
If you have jeans that you like that are slightly too big. Okay, I'm altered.
David Burie
Yeah. So you believe Melissa, I.
Langston Kerman
Okay, this is where it gets good.
Nicole Byer
So there is something different about Avril Lavigne.
David Burie
She definitely looks different. Yeah.
Nicole Byer
I don't know if it's like she aged or maybe she. I don't know. You know, the whole Epstein of it all, where all that shit was, like, true and shit, Right? Like, maybe these conspiracy theories are true.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. How'd Gucci mane get so buff?
David Burie
Another great question.
Nicole Byer
How did you think he's got a clone?
Langston Kerman
That's what. That's a. That's a thing. I didn't make that up.
Nicole Byer
Maybe. And then Jim Carrey recently, he looked all different. Maybe he's got a clone.
David Burie
This is the. The replacement, obviously, and this is the original. They do look a lot alike.
Nicole Byer
They look a lot alike.
Langston Kerman
That's the same person to me.
David Burie
There's no difference for you.
Nicole Byer
No, I think the mouth is a little different.
Langston Kerman
Maybe she got some tooth work, but
Nicole Byer
I feel like the gums. Like, the. Like, one mouth is bigger than the other.
Langston Kerman
She doesn't have a happy smile.
Nicole Byer
It's a grimace.
Noah Kahan
Yeah.
David Burie
She looks upset. It looks like.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, that's exactly it.
David Burie
It looks like when your mom yells at you and then sends you out to finish doing what she asked you
Langston Kerman
to do, and then you're like, why my mom have to make things so complicated. I've been trying to get that off for, like, 10 minutes.
Nicole Byer
I liked it. It was good.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. I tried to jump it in before and I couldn't quite get it.
Nicole Byer
No, that was good. I liked it.
Langston Kerman
It's the only other lyric I got strained.
David Burie
I do think, to me, it looks a lot like the same person. But what this also reminds me of is how many of the same person sort of exist in the world already. Like, we talk about this all the time. Fucking. What's his name with the bad eye? Forest Whitaker. Forest Whitaker has a brother who is almost indistinguishable.
Nicole Byer
Wait, really?
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Burie
Forest Whitaker, he got a whole brother. Tree Whitaker.
Langston Kerman
Jungle Whitaker.
Nicole Byer
Woods Whitaker. I didn't know he had a brother.
David Burie
Yeah, he's got two brothers. But one of them, they all look a lot alike. But one of them is, like, insane how much they look alike type shit, look at that. That's Forest. And then that's Forest.
Nicole Byer
Damn, they do look just alike.
Langston Kerman
Damn.
Nicole Byer
That is one's just a little smaller.
David Burie
Yeah. And so he's apparently been in projects. And you sitting there like, that's Forest Whitaker. And it's just him. It's just his boy.
Langston Kerman
That ain't him.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know what I mean?
Nicole Byer
Wow.
David Burie
And I don't know, maybe Avril just has a doppelganger. Maybe that can exist.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. There's a lot of people who look like a lot of people, bro.
David Burie
I look like Jussie. I see pictures, I go, damn, I like this motherfucker.
Nicole Byer
Don't think so.
Langston Kerman
We're going down a complicated road right now. Because I'm trying.
David Burie
I think if I start crying,
Nicole Byer
I'm a picture of him. Pull up a picture of Juicy.
David Burie
I think if I start crying in
Nicole Byer
this Let me see Juicy studio. Because I'm, like, seeing it, but also not seeing it.
Langston Kerman
Look at the crow face.
David Burie
Yeah, No, I think there's. I think it's close. I think there's a few pictures where you go like, oh, wow.
Nicole Byer
Yeah, right?
David Burie
Here I go. That's kind of my face. It sucks.
Nicole Byer
Yes.
David Burie
I'm not happy about that. That one in particular really stands out to. There's an argument to be made. And my point is, what if you
Nicole Byer
just abandon your career and assume his identity?
David Burie
I would do it in a second.
Langston Kerman
You have no idea how bad I
David Burie
want to Serpico into this man's life.
Langston Kerman
He's the new Juicy.
David Burie
Juicy's back and he's different.
Langston Kerman
I found you Miss New Jersey, a little different.
Nicole Byer
That's so you really. Y' all really do look alike. That's wild.
David Burie
Yeah, I think.
Langston Kerman
Now pull up Wesley.
David Burie
Wesley.
Langston Kerman
Do me. Do me before taxes.
David Burie
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Wesley's Knives.
David Burie
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Okay. Pull it up.
Langston Kerman
No, no, no. It wasn't as good of an idea as I thought when you called it.
David Burie
No, actually, once you want to look at the pictures, it sucks. I don't want to do that at all.
Langston Kerman
Idris is from the same country.
David Burie
Yeah. You guys do kind of look alike.
Langston Kerman
I've always said that.
David Burie
Yeah. I could see how you and Idris share qualities.
Langston Kerman
Head shape, similar.
David Burie
Bad rapping. Similar.
Nicole Byer
Don't do that to me. Is Giselle, but raps.
Langston Kerman
Mm. He does.
David Burie
He has a very full career as a rapper and a dj.
Nicole Byer
I knew he was a dj. I didn't realize he was a rapper.
David Burie
It started as rap and then transitioned into dj when the rap didn't really. When it wasn't hitting, it didn't take off the way that we thought it
Langston Kerman
would, which is okay.
Nicole Byer
That's fun.
David Burie
It was post wired. He could do anything he wanted, and he did.
Langston Kerman
Dj. DJ does seem like a fun job. Like, if you get famous just to go be a dj, I completely get that. It's a job you don't actually have to be good at for people to be excited that you're there.
Nicole Byer
But if you're good, that's good.
Langston Kerman
If you're even kind of good.
Nicole Byer
Right.
Langston Kerman
Is Shaq good at it? I don't know. He seems to do it.
Nicole Byer
Shaq is also a dj.
David Burie
Shaq Beezle DJ is dj. Shaq Diesel is. Or DJ Diesel.
Nicole Byer
Does he bring his own table?
David Burie
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
He has to have him custom built.
Nicole Byer
Yeah, he's too big like a normal table.
Langston Kerman
He's too big for music.
Nicole Byer
He's too big to hit. Play you standing up. It's all the way down there.
David Burie
He just presses all the buttons at once.
Langston Kerman
His finger is the size of a regular DJ's fist.
David Burie
Yeah. Shaq actually is represented separately by agents by his agency as a DJ and as a, like, personality.
Nicole Byer
Wow.
David Burie
He tours separately as a dj.
Nicole Byer
I'm learning so much.
David Burie
He's also a police officer.
Nicole Byer
No.
Langston Kerman
That maybe don't. Don't look into that. What do you mean, don't look into that?
David Burie
He literally, when he retired from the NBA, went down to, I think, Louisiana, and was like, I want to become an official police officer and went through the shit and got fucking sworn in as a cop in Louisiana.
Langston Kerman
Do you know how fast you were going, ma'?
David Burie
Am?
Nicole Byer
That's wild. He'd have to get a custom police Car. He don't fit nowhere.
David Burie
Yeah, it sucks.
Langston Kerman
I think they got him, like, a Dodge Ram or something.
Nicole Byer
This is wild. I'm learning so much.
David Burie
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
No, you can become a cop, too. I guess that's the thing.
Nicole Byer
I could just become a cop.
David Burie
I don't want you to, but, yeah,
Nicole Byer
I don't want to.
Langston Kerman
Well, you'd be fun.
Nicole Byer
What if I just changed it from the inside out? What if I infiltrate the police and I'm like, guys, let's, like, not kill black people anymore.
Langston Kerman
You know what's crazy? I don't think that's what Jacques was doing. Shoot. Shoot, shoot.
Nicole Byer
Shoot him.
Langston Kerman
Shoot. Put him down like a dog. Oh, my God.
David Burie
He was talking back to you.
Langston Kerman
You gotta kill him. He loves Kobe over Diesel. All right, that was too far.
David Burie
You did take it too far, and
Nicole Byer
I didn't mind it.
Langston Kerman
Thank you.
Nicole Byer
Have you had his gummy snacks?
David Burie
No.
Langston Kerman
I've had a lot of his products.
Nicole Byer
They're not good.
David Burie
I refuse to put Shaq in your body. I think so. Yeah.
Langston Kerman
And we've talked about this before. He's worried about Shaq dominating him physically. Oh, yeah.
David Burie
I don't. I think he's an untrustworthy character, for sure.
Nicole Byer
I get that. He's too big.
David Burie
And I think he's the new Papa John. I think in that way, we should not be consuming products made by a man who literally never set out to make products. I think at some point, we as humans have to draw a line and go, he didn't want to do that. Somehow he is now doing it.
Nicole Byer
That's how I feel about Mr. Beast. One, I don't know who he is. Two, now he's got food for me to eat. He's got food for me. I don't know him. And his name is Mr. Beast. Do you want me to eat your food?
David Burie
And have you seen him? He doesn't look like a mister or a beast.
Nicole Byer
No, he looks Mr. Sleepy.
Langston Kerman
Talk about a white dude who looks like 10 other white dudes. Yeah, I can't place him.
Nicole Byer
Me either.
Langston Kerman
Pretty sure I had him in calculus.
David Burie
He was student and teacher for me.
Nicole Byer
Really, truly. He could.
David Burie
At some point in my life, he was a student and a teacher.
Langston Kerman
I didn't take calculus.
David Burie
Yeah, and we're gonna get you that class. We're gonna get you registered. You're gonna.
Langston Kerman
I'm not a numbers guy. I'm an English social studies guy.
Nicole Byer
But you gotta take calculus, brother.
David Burie
You're gonna pass, and you gotta do it.
Langston Kerman
I think I quite frankly proved I don't no.
Nicole Byer
You do this far, you gotta.
Langston Kerman
I'm a licensed driver in the state of California.
David Burie
How often are you using calculates calculus in your life?
Nicole Byer
Never.
David Burie
Okay.
Langston Kerman
That's what I'm saying.
Nicole Byer
Never.
David Burie
It's never come up.
Nicole Byer
Mm, no. The only thing I use is like percents. To do the tip at a restaurant.
David Burie
Right.
Nicole Byer
Or to figure out how good of a deal this is.
Langston Kerman
That's just. You just run it over and double it up. You don't even have to. I'm not technically doing percents. No, no, Yeah, I run it in double.
David Burie
No, yeah, we heard you.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, I just want you guys to
Nicole Byer
know we heard you.
Langston Kerman
I just lied. If you guys weren't up on that trick. Yeah, some people are doing it with calculators. I just.
Nicole Byer
It is funny to watch someone do it with a calculator. It's like move the decimal point.
Langston Kerman
It bums me out.
Nicole Byer
Double it. It's easy breezy.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Burie
I'm happy to say that I've reached this evolution. I was formerly a calculator person and.
Langston Kerman
I see. So you made me say it crazy like I was being crazy. No, it was just how we've been flipping and doubling since the 90s, brother.
David Burie
It was just how much you were trying to prove that you could do
Langston Kerman
the math, say the term. Say flip it and double it. Say it. I.
David Burie
But will you run it over and double it?
Langston Kerman
Flip it and double it.
David Burie
I don't want to say that. Because that's.
Langston Kerman
Why not.
Nicole Byer
What are you flipping?
David Burie
Correct. What are you flipping?
Langston Kerman
Oh, flip it over.
Nicole Byer
Flip it over. So in your mind, walking on over
David Burie
the decimal point is doing a little loopty loos twirl into this new spot. Fancy. Nicole, before we take a break, I have to ask if you believe that this is real, or at least there's some possibility of this being real. Does that leave you disheartened? Do you think that that's a bad thing that Alvin Levine feels?
Nicole Byer
Do I think this is real? No.
David Burie
Okay.
Nicole Byer
I don't. But also, it could be.
David Burie
Sure.
Langston Kerman
There we go.
Nicole Byer
You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know, weirder shit has happened. You tell me it's actually real and there's real proof. Okay.
David Burie
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nicole Byer
Do I find it disheartening? No. It's pretty cool that she's just as talented.
David Burie
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
You could almost argue that maybe Avril wasn't that talented, that they could just watch somebody else.
David Burie
Yeah. You know, maybe this wasn't a once in a lifetime talent.
Nicole Byer
It's at least twice Twice in a lifetime talent.
Langston Kerman
Which is what I thought when I initially saw Skater Boy. I said. I said they could do it again.
Nicole Byer
Could do this.
Langston Kerman
They could do it again.
David Burie
You know a girl from my high school who might be able to pull this off?
Langston Kerman
I know 7 off rip.
David Burie
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nicole Byer
But I do like that it. I think it's Hannibal Buress. He. For a premiere or something. Sent another man down the carpet.
David Burie
That was very cool.
Nicole Byer
And that's very like. That's funny.
Langston Kerman
See, that's crazier to me. Cause there's not another one of that guy. No.
David Burie
And he didn't.
Nicole Byer
He didn't look like him.
David Burie
He didn't try to find another guy. He just was like, hey, man, would you like to go to the premiere of a movie?
Nicole Byer
I think it was Spider Man.
David Burie
It was like a starring vehicle.
Nicole Byer
It was something big.
Langston Kerman
Was it tagged?
David Burie
It might have been tagged.
Nicole Byer
Oh, maybe it was tag.
Langston Kerman
That's so funny.
Nicole Byer
What's tag?
Langston Kerman
It was this movie about tag.
Nicole Byer
He loved that. I was like, maybe it was tag. What is it?
Langston Kerman
It was a movie about tag.
Nicole Byer
I saw it about the game tag.
Langston Kerman
It was like these friends who had had a game of tag their entire lives.
Nicole Byer
Oh. Oh, I think I remember this.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nicole Byer
It was for Spider Man.
Langston Kerman
Oh, Spider Man.
David Burie
Thank you.
Nicole Byer
Shout out to which one? Which Spider Man?
Langston Kerman
Black one.
David Burie
Probably the first one. Yeah, yeah, I believe the first one.
Nicole Byer
This looks like 2017. Ah, the one with Tobey Maguire.
David Burie
The first one with into the Spider verse.
Nicole Byer
So wait, we're saying the first Spider man and not talking about Tobey Maguire. Tobey Maguire erasure.
David Burie
Well, we meant for Hannibal.
Langston Kerman
First black Spider Man.
Nicole Byer
He's in more Spider Mans. Wait, which Spider Man? No, there's too many Spider Mans.
Langston Kerman
I've been saying far from home.
David Burie
And let's stop saying Spider Man. Let's all agree that we've said it
Langston Kerman
too much, but this podcast is sponsored by Spider Man.
Nicole Byer
Spider Man. Spider Man. Which Spider man is it?
David Burie
He's not Jew.
Langston Kerman
It's pronounced Speederman.
David Burie
It's separated.
Langston Kerman
My name is Peter Parker. The Amazing Speederman.
Nicole Byer
Who is Peterman?
Langston Kerman
Cpa.
Nicole Byer
Wait, the cartoon one?
David Burie
Yeah, yeah. Well, no, Hannibal is in the Tom Holland one.
Nicole Byer
Ah, I have not seen those.
David Burie
Those are the newest version of them.
Nicole Byer
I see, I see.
David Burie
And Hannibal, at the premiere of the Tom Holland one, sent this gentleman to the red carpet.
Langston Kerman
Damn, that guy's funny. That's so funny.
Nicole Byer
Very funny.
David Burie
Again, a really important moment for him. And he was like, nah, I'm doing something silly.
Langston Kerman
Who would you Send both of you. Who would you send?
David Burie
Oh, if I didn't arrive for myself and wanted.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, and you could send anything, man.
David Burie
That's a good question. Mexico.
Nicole Byer
The country? Nah.
David Burie
A dude.
Nicole Byer
I don't know who Mexico is.
Langston Kerman
Shout out to Mexico.
Nicole Byer
Who's Mexico? I'm sorry, I don't know you.
David Burie
He's a dude named Sushi Boy Mexico on Instagram.
Nicole Byer
Okay.
David Burie
He's a dude who's named Mexico because he lived in New Mexico for some of his life. He's one of the more fascinating people I know.
Nicole Byer
I love that.
David Burie
He could not be funnier and more chaotic. It would be very funny to see him walking down a red carpet.
Langston Kerman
That's a good one.
David Burie
As my representation.
Langston Kerman
That's a good one.
David Burie
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
I gotta think about it. Oh, Shaggy.
Nicole Byer
Smart, smart.
David Burie
Do the accent the whole time.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Burie
Don't play me. And come. Come and be regular.
Langston Kerman
No, no. He'd be Shaggy.
David Burie
You talk like Shaggy the whole time.
Langston Kerman
I would be like. You can only speak to the press and lyrics for Mr. Bombastic.
David Burie
Yeah. And if you don't squeeze a. It wasn't me in there.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
David Burie
It better be a fucking. It wasn't me thrown in.
Langston Kerman
You need to say butt naked banging on the bathroom floor to the lady at E. It'd be funny if that's
Nicole Byer
how he answered every single interview question. It was just lyrics from that song.
Langston Kerman
He should. That was.
Nicole Byer
I meant.
Langston Kerman
Shut it. Wait. Who would you pick before we go to break?
Nicole Byer
Probably my friend Meatball, who's a drag queen. We've been mistaken for each other before.
Langston Kerman
Oh, you want someone who looks like you?
Nicole Byer
No, Meatball does not look like Meatball.
Langston Kerman
Oh, it's racist.
Nicole Byer
But we have been mistaken for each other. Meatball was doing a show at a college and they used a picture of me for.
Langston Kerman
That's crazy.
David Burie
That sucks.
Langston Kerman
That's crazy.
David Burie
That really sucks. That sucks. It's great that it didn't happen to you. Congratulations on not being the victim of it. That really sucks for Meatball. I feel bad.
Langston Kerman
That is tough. Yeah, that is tough.
David Burie
But great red carpet opportunity.
Nicole Byer
Or Michelle buteau. We've been mistaken for one another.
Langston Kerman
Really?
Nicole Byer
That makes sense.
Langston Kerman
I don't. I make no sense of it.
David Burie
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I bet I could zero in on the one thing that they thought you had in common with each other, which is not nice behavior.
Langston Kerman
No, no, no.
David Burie
But it is the one thing they're picking.
Langston Kerman
Oh, that's true. Everybody thought I was Chappelle Lacey on this. My own platform.
David Burie
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Really?
Langston Kerman
Our fans were like, Our fans were like, I didn't even know. This wasn't the same nigga, bro.
David Burie
People had been. People who had been dedicated to us for years were like, that's wild. We're like, brother, they separated.
Langston Kerman
They were like, legs are in the middle. They got lasers in the middle. I wouldn't know what was going on. I don't.
David Burie
This podcast got too meta. They put a mirror across from David. What are they even trying to do here? Look, fellas, you jumped the shark. Get back to the old way of doing things. Just talk to each other. Oh, man, we need to take a break.
Nicole Byer
Okay.
David Burie
It's been God knows how long, but it's more Nicole Byers more. My mama told me.
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Langston Kerman
Hey, we're back.
Nicole Byer
Would you say that you're racist?
Langston Kerman
Not at all. All. No.
Nicole Byer
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Look at my dog. He's as black as can be.
Nicole Byer
Who?
Langston Kerman
That's that from the news?
David Burie
Oh, yeah, that's from the news.
Nicole Byer
The news.
Langston Kerman
You ever seen that clip? This is the guy they're interviewing.
David Burie
He's really racist.
Nicole Byer
Yeah, yeah.
David Burie
He. He's being bad to his community. And then they're being like, are you a racist person? He's like, the. Are you talking about I got a black dog?
Nicole Byer
Ooh. Eh.
Langston Kerman
And then he says, get a moon cricket.
Nicole Byer
No, I've never seen this before in my whole life.
David Burie
He doesn't say the get a moon cricket photo.
Nicole Byer
That'd be very funny if he did.
Langston Kerman
It would be really cool.
David Burie
It'd be the best part of it, I think. We're still here with Nicole Byer. We're still talking about the possibility that celebrity clones are real. You introduced sort of this question of, like, the Epstein files and how many of the things that we thought were completely untrue or at least lived in, like, a world of fiction that we're now discovering are as close to true as anything has ever been. And I'm curious to know what you think. If the cloning is a thing, what you think is the benefit of the cloning for the public, right? Or even for the powers that be? Because everything that is being revealed in the Epstein files is weird, perverted, sort of like money, wealth, pussy. That is the essence of all of it. What do you think is the point of the clones?
Nicole Byer
I think the point of the clones is to continue to make money.
Langston Kerman
Right? Even after somebody's not willing anymore. That makes the most sense to me. They put them in this shit, make it eat them up, and then just throw out another one.
David Burie
Right? Yeah. I will say, even as you're saying that it makes me think about Prince and how hard he fought to be like, I'm not giving y' all my shit. Like, literally, when he died, he was like, I'm locking it in a vault. I don't want it on Spotify. I don't want it on Apple. You'll listen to it if you bought the records, and if you didn't, you won't. Like, he really drew the line. And then motherfuckers fought.
Langston Kerman
Yep. Still got a store in the airport.
David Burie
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
You know, I didn't want that fucking airport.
Nicole Byer
You got a store in the airport?
Langston Kerman
In the Minneapolis airport. There's a French store.
Nicole Byer
Interesting.
David Burie
Sucks.
Langston Kerman
It's a bummer. It's a bum. Cause you're just like.
David Burie
It's purple.
Nicole Byer
It's just purple. Purple T shirts.
David Burie
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
And you're just like, bro, you know, he would be so mad.
David Burie
It's just album covers mass produced.
Nicole Byer
Ugh.
David Burie
It's keychains.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Let people. Let people be dead. Let people go away.
David Burie
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Maybe even kill people.
Nicole Byer
Well, all right. Yeah.
Langston Kerman
No.
Nicole Byer
Yeah. What you want to say about that?
Langston Kerman
Too much.
David Burie
We're listening. If we're fine.
Nicole Byer
Who do you want to kill?
Langston Kerman
I was looking for a drop to save me. I don't have one.
David Burie
Okay.
Langston Kerman
Oh, my God. Wow.
Nicole Byer
Oh, my God. One of my favorite videos. Oh, my God. Wow.
David Burie
I like it. Because he walks away. He truly can't process how cool this is.
Nicole Byer
Oh, my God. Wow.
David Burie
It's too good. Yeah. It reminds me a lot of how many celebrities You've already talked about this. Of how many celebrities Jim Carrey very recently accused of being a clone. Gucci Mane accused of being a clone. We have that theory that Pharrell is a vampire.
Nicole Byer
That he is.
David Burie
He has lasted the test of time.
Nicole Byer
I mean, he looks good.
Langston Kerman
He looks amaz.
Nicole Byer
Amaz.
David Burie
Keanu Reeves has a similar sort of like, story about him of being like,
Nicole Byer
Gabrielle Union is a vampire. She looks good.
Langston Kerman
I never even thought she looks.
Nicole Byer
She had look at her now and look at her and bring it on.
David Burie
She looks.
Langston Kerman
And in Bring it on. I'm not saying she looked old, but she looked older than what? Her age. You know what I mean?
Nicole Byer
Yeah. Because they had 30 year olds playing 20.
David Burie
That's true.
Nicole Byer
15 or whatever.
Langston Kerman
Beyonce situation.
David Burie
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Absolutely.
Langston Kerman
Remember Beyonce on smart guy?
David Burie
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
You were like 17.
David Burie
That's a grown woman.
Langston Kerman
That's a woman.
David Burie
That's a woman.
Langston Kerman
She knows the world.
Nicole Byer
She knows the world.
Langston Kerman
She knows the ways of it.
David Burie
Listen, TJ is smart, but he don't know nothing about tj.
Nicole Byer
Where's he at?
Langston Kerman
Taj.
David Burie
Taj.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
He's mirage, Maui.
David Burie
Oh, he's buff.
Langston Kerman
And he got buff.
David Burie
He got buff. Ooh, didn't get taller.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, yeah.
Langston Kerman
You only have two options in this life.
David Burie
He didn't get taller.
Nicole Byer
He didn't get taller. You could break them knees, put stilts in. I don't know. What are they? What is it? When they do what they do, they'll
Langston Kerman
say, I don't know what they.
David Burie
I 100% agree with them. Breaking his knees. I do think that's part of it. I don't think afterwards they replace those knees with.
Langston Kerman
What do they do, though? They got to stretch.
David Burie
I don't know.
Nicole Byer
They do something to stretch your legs.
Langston Kerman
You want to stretch out both parts of the leg. That's the problem is you're going to look crazy and like, you also got
Nicole Byer
to stretch out because they don't do the arms either.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. Or like the torso.
Nicole Byer
The torso. You just have these long legs.
David Burie
I think what they do is they break, like, femur and. And shin bones.
Langston Kerman
Tibia, amphibia.
David Burie
Yeah, amphibia's amphibious, the big ones. And then they sort of like add chunks, you know what I mean?
Nicole Byer
They just get them chunks.
Langston Kerman
And do they take it from other parts? Like, do they take it from your radius?
David Burie
Buffalo bones sitting around and they got other bones. You a little buffalo now.
Langston Kerman
I think my body would reject the buffalo.
David Burie
I think most people's bodies.
Nicole Byer
I think you're strong. I think your body would absorb. You grow real tall.
David Burie
I think it takes like a year and a half to recover from that
Nicole Byer
or something like that.
David Burie
Something dumb where you're like, oh, you never get to, like, jump again.
Nicole Byer
You never get to jump again.
David Burie
But you tall, Lizzie.
Nicole Byer
You're tall. You don't have to jump. Cause you're tall.
David Burie
And your torso don't match.
Nicole Byer
Nope. Neither do your arms.
Langston Kerman
No. You would look nuts. Yeah, I don't. And I don't need to be taller.
Nicole Byer
No.
Langston Kerman
I'm pretty good.
Nicole Byer
Everybody's good the way they are.
Langston Kerman
That's what I've been saying.
David Burie
It's a beautiful prank, certainly. I wish more people felt that way. But if you feel like you need to break your shins, type in My Mama Told Me at the end in the promo code and see if that works.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, go to Dr. Miami. Tell them we said shit.
Nicole Byer
Dr. Miami.
David Burie
We actually don't know if we secretly have sponsors that break shins. So if you do have that, if Dr. Miami, you could try it.
Langston Kerman
If not Dr. Miami, at least Dr. Detroit.
David Burie
Dr. Detroit, I think is your best bet. If you type in my mama told you.
Nicole Byer
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
And I'll get you a free quarter.
David Burie
And a Kangol hat.
Nicole Byer
You miss those?
David Burie
You miss Kangol?
Langston Kerman
Apparently white guys are bringing them back
Nicole Byer
and I'm upset that's not theirs.
Langston Kerman
It was my whole retirement plan. Yeah, I was gonna transition smooth after 55 into a Kango guy.
David Burie
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Been planning this since the 90s.
David Burie
Backwards or forwards?
Langston Kerman
Forwards.
Nicole Byer
Yes.
Langston Kerman
I have children.
Nicole Byer
I like that. I have children.
David Burie
You're not doing a Samuel L. Jackson style.
Langston Kerman
No, no, no, no.
Nicole Byer
Does he have kids?
David Burie
Yeah, he must. I have to believe that Samuel L. Jackson has children.
Langston Kerman
Wamuel and Blamuel L. Jackson. Blamuel.
Nicole Byer
Blamiel.
David Burie
Blamiel is a girl's name, by the way.
Langston Kerman
Uh huh.
Nicole Byer
Blamiel. That's a little blue boy. I don't think he has kids.
David Burie
Zoe Jackson is his child. How many children?
Langston Kerman
He really missed a bit on that one.
David Burie
Yeah, he just has one daughter named Zoe. Not even Samuel.
Langston Kerman
So Wamuel and Blamuel are over.
Nicole Byer
He just hasn't found them yet.
David Burie
If you're looking to name your children Blamuel Jackson is available.
Nicole Byer
Do. That's a funny name.
David Burie
This is a really funny name.
Nicole Byer
That's cute.
David Burie
And I do think we sometimes don't give enough credit to celebrities naming their kids funny names.
Nicole Byer
Yes.
David Burie
I think sometimes we really pick on them for like weird ass names that they pick for their kids. And I don't think we should do that.
Nicole Byer
I don't think so either.
Langston Kerman
I think it's amazing. Cause it's like, what are you gonna do? I'm Will Ferrell. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, my kid's got a funny name.
David Burie
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
So he's not at Yale. I did the work so I could name him Blame.
David Burie
I did it.
Langston Kerman
You have to take Blameal seriously. Cause of the work I did in this life, bro.
David Burie
I did so much work in this life that your majesty will be fine.
Nicole Byer
Yes, your majesty's a perfect name.
Langston Kerman
It's a perfect name.
David Burie
He's gonna be okay.
Nicole Byer
It's a great name. There's a Jafar Jackson. Come on.
David Burie
That's the one playing Michael.
Nicole Byer
Really?
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Burie
Jafar. A nigga named Jafar gets to be his uncle. Who is Michael Jackson?
Nicole Byer
That's so funn.
David Burie
He did the impossible with naming his kids.
Nicole Byer
I fucking love that.
David Burie
We gotta show some love.
Nicole Byer
Remember when Gwynneth Paltrow named her child Apple? And everyone was all up in arms. Apple's fine.
Langston Kerman
That's not even Paltrow. Sounds like a good guy to me.
David Burie
Apple Martin.
Nicole Byer
Oh, Apple Martin.
Langston Kerman
I don't like that as much.
Nicole Byer
No, I like Paltrow.
Langston Kerman
Apple Paltrow is way better.
David Burie
Apple Paltrow is a more would be their stage name. Apple Paltrow. I like that.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, you have to.
David Burie
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Apple J. Paltrow. Apple Martin sauce.
Nicole Byer
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Apple J. Apple J. Paltrow.
David Burie
Is it Apple Jack.
Nicole Byer
Apple Jack Paltrow.
Langston Kerman
I like it.
David Burie
Apple Jack Paltrow.
Langston Kerman
That guy sold me life insurance.
David Burie
Are you either of you worried about the possibility of being cloned? Is this something that comes up for you? Is this a concern for your future?
Nicole Byer
No, I don't think I'm that important.
Langston Kerman
That's what I was gonna say. I never felt like I did anything that way.
Nicole Byer
Yeah. I don't think anyone's gonna be like, oh, we need more Nicole.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. Nobody's ever gonna be like, you know what we really need More of? Whammul and blammul jokes.
Nicole Byer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Langston Kerman
I think I could be the only one. I'll be all right.
David Burie
You think the resources are thin enough at this point that they're not, like, reaching out to where you guys sit in the universe?
Langston Kerman
I would go so far as to say I don't think that that will ever be a resource that is far reaching because we are already dealing with. Overcome. I don't think. I don't think that it's ever gonna be a major technology to, like, make more people without the way we make more people. You know what I'm saying? Like, it feels like it just doesn't counter to what's going on.
Nicole Byer
I don't know. I see a world where there are clones and they're little worker bees. Cause they're not people.
David Burie
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Oh, so you could treat them the
Nicole Byer
way like slaves, like.
Langston Kerman
But they are people. They are people.
Nicole Byer
Well, they are people. But, like, to the clone maker,
Langston Kerman
100%. No, keep going, Keep going.
Nicole Byer
Makers. They're not real people. They're little entities that are shells. And they do the work. They do the sewing.
Langston Kerman
They do. And they don't feel pain like we do. No, they don't.
Nicole Byer
Because they're clones, and the clone makers know that.
David Burie
I don't think anybody's given up on slavery.
Nicole Byer
No. I don't think so either. Which is, like, kind of crazy.
David Burie
It's crazy, but they're legit.
Langston Kerman
Like, people are still. They're still like, okay, but what if we. If we just move a few things
Nicole Byer
around, bro, and it's like, give it up.
David Burie
It exists. I mean, you know, this is not a new thought, but, like, slave exists more today. There are more active slaves today than there were during the transatlantic slave trade.
Nicole Byer
Really?
David Burie
Yeah. That's a real thing.
Nicole Byer
I was like, no, you're telling me new information.
David Burie
No, that is a really fucked up. But. But we treat slavery now as, you know, a necessary factor of capitalism that we can hide, you know, in. In these nefarious ways. So, like, nah, they'll bring it back. They're just waiting for the right way to really roll it out, that we don't get upset about it.
Langston Kerman
Right.
David Burie
That you don't just make it or robots or motherfuckers that look like the black people we wish were working. But who.
Langston Kerman
That's what would piss me off.
David Burie
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
If they start cloning people and then the slave clones are still black. Everybody. That's who I'm killing, bro.
Nicole Byer
Everybody getting really fucked up.
Langston Kerman
Why is that?
Nicole Byer
Why they got to be black?
Langston Kerman
Like, they double down. They double down, bro.
David Burie
You could have made them orange.
Langston Kerman
They better look like Applejack Paltrow. Every single fucking one.
Nicole Byer
But then if they make them black, then they could be like, you're a clone. And you're like, actually, I'm not a clone.
Langston Kerman
Show us your papers, Tom.
David Burie
Clone. That's where it gets nasty.
Nicole Byer
Oh, I don't like this world I've created now.
David Burie
Yeah, it sucks.
Langston Kerman
No, this.
David Burie
Welcome to our imagination room.
Langston Kerman
And this is why he's doing this.
David Burie
This is why I'm always stressed out. My brain is always wondering if maybe they gonna turn niggas into slaves because of cloning.
Nicole Byer
And I don't want that. But, you know, it's not cloning, but, like, they use AI for, like, weird shit, like audiobooks and stuff. Like, And I'm just like, get someone else to, like, if that person can't read, it doesn't make no sense.
David Burie
Yeah, I've listened to the if I did it by O.J.
Langston Kerman
simpson, and it's right there.
David Burie
Yep, I've listened to that on tape. And they just got a different man.
Nicole Byer
Yes, you can just do that.
David Burie
And also, because he had lost the book rights to the people that the family that he had murdered.
Nicole Byer
Wait, what?
Langston Kerman
And also, other men know how to read.
Nicole Byer
He lost the rights to his own book.
David Burie
It was the only thing that he had left after the civil trial and so the Goldman family got the rights to it. And it's a tough listen.
Nicole Byer
I bet it is. I can't believe he wrote a book called if I Did It After. You know, he.
David Burie
At one point in the book, he imagines another guy is there and he is attempting to stop the. But Ron Goldman does karate on the other guy and then the other guy losing the fight in the karate murders. Ron Goldman in front of him. And then OJ Helps to clean up the.
Nicole Byer
When he died, did they crack his head open? Cvsct.
David Burie
I don't even think they needed to check.
Langston Kerman
That thing is probably oozing out at that point.
David Burie
I think they could see some lumps from the outside. Oj, you got a little CTE rock.
Nicole Byer
CTE rocks. It snorted a little bit.
David Burie
I think he had the biggest brain they ever saw. That bad boy was swollen. It grew three sizes that day. Oj, oj. I hope they clone OJ I don't. You don't?
Nicole Byer
Yeah. I'm gonna say I hope not.
Langston Kerman
There's so many other people on my list.
David Burie
I know. It's cool.
Nicole Byer
Who do you want to get cloned?
Langston Kerman
Bernie Mac.
David Burie
That's a good answer.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. First. That would be the first one.
David Burie
That's a great answer.
Langston Kerman
Biggie. Robin Harris.
David Burie
Very good. Very good. Two Chicago Men. I like this.
Langston Kerman
My grandma.
David Burie
Ok. That's it for that.
Nicole Byer
Would you really want your grandma to be cloned? Because when she comes back, she'd have a good time. She probably won't be the same grandma
David Burie
that's not your grandma anymore.
Nicole Byer
That's just a woman who looks like your grandma. That's a lot with the memories of your grandma. But she might feel differently about you.
David Burie
I don't even know how many memories she gets. She might just not.
Langston Kerman
Oh, no memories. Oh, then I don't want any of those people.
Nicole Byer
Well, I think they probably get the memories, but like to.
Langston Kerman
When they have free will, the memories till they died.
Nicole Byer
Probably.
Langston Kerman
I think that.
David Burie
Okay, but that doesn't mean they feel how they feel about. Like. The memory doesn't make me love you. It just makes it a. Yeah.
Nicole Byer
They have free will to be. Like, whether they like you or not.
David Burie
I. I don't.
Langston Kerman
I'm pretty likable. Okay.
David Burie
You believe.
Nicole Byer
What if your grandma came back as a clone and was like, I don't like you.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Burie
And that wasn't you.
Langston Kerman
That wasn't who I'm gonna. Grandma. You guys are who I'm gonna. That was what? That's why I had to scramble.
David Burie
Look, man, I never met your grandma, but it felt like she was in the room.
Langston Kerman
I won't make you pop.
Nicole Byer
I don't like you.
Langston Kerman
Pie.
David Burie
Classic Sierra Leone grandma.
Langston Kerman
My grandmother ate pie one time.
David Burie
Sierra Leone grandmas are always making and eating pie.
Nicole Byer
And now she makes pie because that's part of her new personality.
Langston Kerman
Windowsills. Yeah.
David Burie
No, that's. You know that. You know that about your grandmother. I know that about your grandmother. Certainly Nicole. Nicole, having transferred your grandmother's soul into her body, knows that.
Langston Kerman
Will Bertie Mac still be funny?
David Burie
I would hope so.
Nicole Byer
I hope so, too. But he could also choose to be like, I don't want to live that life.
Langston Kerman
What if he's maga?
David Burie
And this is where they get nasty.
Nicole Byer
The out.
Langston Kerman
I believe what a trans is. No, that would be crazy. That was crazy. That was crazy.
Nicole Byer
That was crazy.
Langston Kerman
That was crazy.
David Burie
You in this bathroom. Ain't your bathroom.
Langston Kerman
Wow. Yeah, we've really covered a lot of ground.
David Burie
I also think where it gets nasty. And we should go to one more break before we. I think the other thing that'll get nasty is if they clone Bernie Mac much in the way that they did with Avril Lavigne. They're gonna fix some things. And part of what made Bernie Mac funny was that that eye could float away at any time. Just right away, just leave the building. And if you start making Bernie Mac.
Langston Kerman
Kept you on your toes.
David Burie
Kept you on your toes. And then if you start making Bernie Mac with two straight eyes, it's not
Nicole Byer
the real Bernie Mac.
David Burie
It's not Bernie Mac.
Langston Kerman
Now. That's uncanny. Mac Valley.
Nicole Byer
Yeah.
David Burie
We don't like what this is. And that Bernie Mac takes himself seriously in a way that you're not supposed to.
Langston Kerman
And that's how they. Because they're trying to make him go maga.
David Burie
If they're cloning, that's how they get you.
Nicole Byer
You're really stuck on that.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. It's, unfortunately, maybe the funniest thing I've thought of this whole. Yeah.
David Burie
I do wonder how Avril Lavigne votes, though, also.
Langston Kerman
Just. Just, like, just cloned maga. Bernie Mac as a concept is the funniest thing in the world.
Nicole Byer
You're just making me so sad.
Langston Kerman
But it's just. Think about it in practice. It's very funny.
David Burie
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Okay.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, it's pretty good.
David Burie
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
He's dancing.
Nicole Byer
I'm just, like. With a little hat on.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. America.
David Burie
Kamala Harris, go get yourself some milk and your night's over.
Nicole Byer
That got me. Very good. Yes.
Langston Kerman
Very good.
Nicole Byer
Milk and cookies. It's one of my favorite shows.
Langston Kerman
Him downstairs.
David Burie
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
All right.
David Burie
We need to take a break.
Langston Kerman
Break. We. We're.
David Burie
We'll be back. More, Nicole. More. My mama told me.
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Langston Kerman
We're back. We're not gonna let Joe Biden and Kamala Harris cut America's meat. That's dead on that. That's dead on that. We're back. I said it before.
David Burie
I was supposed to say, yeah, but then say more. You can. You can reintroduce the world that we live in.
Langston Kerman
Oh, the problem is in my head. It's funnier if I just. And then don't say anything.
David Burie
You are being an artiste, and I am the hostess with the mostest.
Langston Kerman
I don't know where you want me to go.
David Burie
You want me to dance for you?
Langston Kerman
No. See? And that's why I reacted that way, because I knew that that's not what I want. That's not what I want.
Nicole Byer
What did you want?
Langston Kerman
I just wanted it to lay flat because it's funnier. Flat is funnier than dimension to me.
Nicole Byer
Okay.
David Burie
We're still here with Nicole. Fire. We have a voicemail from one of our dear listeners. We get voicemails from a lot of people who are concerned about conspiracy theories in their own lives, often drunk.
Nicole Byer
Oh, really? Oh, yeah.
David Burie
They call.
Nicole Byer
Do you encourage that?
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Oh, okay.
David Burie
It's complicated.
Langston Kerman
We have a complicated relationship with our listeners.
Nicole Byer
Hey, I like it. Come as you are.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. Yeah. One guy did come. Yes.
Nicole Byer
Wait, like, ejaculated on a voicemail?
Langston Kerman
I think that's. We think so.
David Burie
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Okay.
David Burie
He certainly wasn't calling us with clothes on.
Nicole Byer
How do you know?
David Burie
You can hear it.
Langston Kerman
You can feel it through the phone.
Nicole Byer
Okay.
David Burie
There's an energy where you go, I
Nicole Byer
wanna hear that voicemail.
David Burie
Yeah, I'm sorry. We can't play that one again.
Nicole Byer
No, I understand. I get it.
David Burie
Let's do. We got a lot of great ones here. Let's do Very drunk couple, whatever that is.
Langston Kerman
Ooh, that could be good.
Nicole Byer
They'll be drunk.
David Burie
Yeah, I hope so.
Nicole Byer
I've got a theory. Okay, so the monks came to America. Do I hang up?
David Burie
Sorry, pause it for one second.
Nicole Byer
Oh, well.
Langston Kerman
No, this is awesome. This is great. This is so, so great.
David Burie
These niggas aren't even in agreement.
Nicole Byer
Nope. Nop. You want to hang up? You want to hang up?
Langston Kerman
This is. This is great.
David Burie
Yeah, I thought. I thought she was about to tell us about.
Nicole Byer
No, this couple is drunk.
David Burie
They are drunk, and he is more drunk than she.
Nicole Byer
Yeah. Yeah, but I'm into it.
David Burie
Yeah, let's keep going.
Nicole Byer
I'll just keep going. Hey, guys. Hey, little fre. Hey, little mama. Little.
Langston Kerman
Little.
David Burie
Whoa.
Nicole Byer
Little. Anyway, we gotta. I got a conspiracy theory. So the monks came, right? They've been walking. Does it feel more peaceful around this?
Langston Kerman
They're walking for peace.
Nicole Byer
They're walking for peace.
Langston Kerman
But it hasn't been peaceful around this.
Nicole Byer
It don't feel any more peaceful. It doesn't feel peaceful. I don't know. They're bringing the drama. More drama than a Real Housewives of. Of Atlanta show this season. The whole season. It's been awful since they've been let out. Bye, little freak mamas.
Langston Kerman
Bye, bitch. Your voicemail is fucking disgusting too.
David Burie
Bye, bitch.
Langston Kerman
First of all, I love your love. I think it's beautiful.
David Burie
You gotta root for Em.
Langston Kerman
I love it.
David Burie
They're so happy together.
Nicole Byer
They were very happy.
Langston Kerman
You ever get drunk with your girl and wanna make prank calls?
David Burie
Y. And they saw something that night that fucked them up. The monks, they saw a monk and they said, hey, bro, it ain't working. Whatever you doing ain't working. We gotta call. We gotta call David and Langston about this.
Nicole Byer
It's just so funny to be like, monks came over and they didn't make it more peaceful. What do they think monks do?
David Burie
They not only think they didn't make it, they said they made it worse. They said, since those monks got here, shit has gone downhill.
Nicole Byer
Yup.
Langston Kerman
Where is here?
David Burie
Those bald freaks Just here.
Nicole Byer
You don't gotta know what stake just here.
David Burie
As soon as they pulled up, things got worse.
Langston Kerman
That was kind of awesome.
David Burie
They were. And they had no synchronicity.
Langston Kerman
They didn't. You know what happened? Yeah, they got home from the Uber. He said, damn, baby, them monks were crazy. She said, yeah.
David Burie
No.
Langston Kerman
And then they started talking and they got themselves worked up.
David Burie
Worked up.
Langston Kerman
And then one of them was Like, I gotta call. I'm calling Brett. Because they didn't plan it in there.
Nicole Byer
Where do you think they're coming from in the Uber? From the monks.
Langston Kerman
I think that they. Okay, can I paint a picture?
David Burie
Yeah, please.
Langston Kerman
I think that they live in New York City or some other major urban area.
David Burie
Fair enough.
Langston Kerman
I think that they were leaving a bar and they came across some heart Hare Krishna's. And then they were like, man, this don't do nothing.
David Burie
Yep.
Langston Kerman
And then they were talking about it, and then, you know, you get it worked up, and then you get home, and then you eat all the pizza rolls.
Nicole Byer
Then you see, we gotta make some phone calls.
Langston Kerman
And then. Yeah, they went to bed right after.
David Burie
I'm still up. You still up?
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Burie
There's no more shows to watch.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. We're probably too drunk for sex.
Nicole Byer
Yeah.
David Burie
Neither one of us can consent.
Nicole Byer
Did she say the. The monks have caused more drama than the Real Housewives of Atlanta. Specifically of Atlanta.
Langston Kerman
Because they had Peacock on in the background, maybe watching the bus down.
David Burie
That, that, that. And there's no the on that. The same way Sierra Leone.
Langston Kerman
Excuse your man from the Congo.
David Burie
You've got your nation, I've got mine. But, yeah, I think they were. I think. I think they just were in the right kind of space to make a phone call. And I think, unfortunately, to your point, they had had a lot of conversation about the monks that they kept left out of.
Nicole Byer
Yes. That they didn't include in that voiceover.
David Burie
We needed more information from them.
Nicole Byer
What happened? Did a monk throw something at you?
David Burie
You had to have seen a monk in some sneakers do some slick shit, and that triggered you in a way that you're not explaining to us also.
Langston Kerman
What's your name?
Nicole Byer
Yeah. Introduce yourself, call back. Get just as drunk and rowdy and call back.
Langston Kerman
Maybe give it a couple days. I know that head's pounding today.
Nicole Byer
Call today.
David Burie
Yeah. We.
Langston Kerman
We.
David Burie
We are grateful that you all have each other. We're grateful that you would make the phone call to speak to us, and we pray that you get some of this behavior in order.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, but not too much.
David Burie
Not too much. Feel free to call us like this anytime. But do know that you all clearly get to a level of drunk that maybe could affect your relationships outside of each other. And that's worth thinking about.
Langston Kerman
We don't know how often they do this either, though.
Nicole Byer
Yeah. This might be their yearly drunk.
David Burie
Yeah, that's fair.
Langston Kerman
And I think once a year, you should be able to get drunk with your partner.
David Burie
I think you should be able to get drunk as much as you want. As long as y' all are both in agreement that this is okay.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, that's fair.
David Burie
We used to throw up together.
Nicole Byer
Really?
David Burie
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Me and my wife, I bet you
David Burie
get drunk, she be throwing up, I be throwing up. And we both be like, damn, Good night, huh?
Langston Kerman
I feel like you and Nikki together, drunk would be real. Cause I've seen, like, you're kind of high and she's drinking a little bit, but, like, I feel like you guys both on 10 would be a lot of fun.
David Burie
We really allow the control to be lost.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. Yeah.
David Burie
When we get to a certain point and we had a run, we had a great run.
Langston Kerman
Me and Alana got drunk in San Diego at the hotel. And then we walked around the arena and then we went into the gym and we're on the stretchy machines, shit faced.
David Burie
Yeah, that's fun.
Nicole Byer
I like that.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. I was like, baby, look where my Lego
Nicole Byer
highlight was. Anyone else in the gym?
Langston Kerman
No, it was like one o' clock in the morning.
Nicole Byer
I hope you were so shit faced. There was someone trying to quietly walk on the treadmill who was like, what the fuck? The fuck is going on? That's what I truly hope. Someone's telling that story right now. These two drunk motherfuckers came in, they
Langston Kerman
didn't even see us.
David Burie
And in that way, we're honored to be your stretching machine. Thank you for calling us. Thank you, Nicole. This has been great.
Nicole Byer
Hey, we did it.
Langston Kerman
This is so fun.
Nicole Byer
Thanks for having me.
David Burie
Thanks for being here. Can you tell the people where they can find you what cool shit you have going on?
Nicole Byer
Yeah, I got podcasts. Why Won't yout Date Me? Best friends. Let's go, 90 Day Bae. That's on Patreon.
Langston Kerman
Let's go.
Nicole Byer
And that's it.
David Burie
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
This podcast right now.
David Burie
But you're on TV all the time.
Nicole Byer
Quite a bit.
David Burie
People can see you in a lot of programs.
Nicole Byer
They can. Lots of programs. Right now it's a little bit of a drought, but that's okay. You can go look at the backlog.
David Burie
It is for all of us. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Langston Kerman
Nobody's on tv.
Nicole Byer
Truly nobody.
David Burie
Yeah, but go follow Nicole. Listen, watch all of the podcasts. She's. What you got?
Langston Kerman
I got this podcast.
David Burie
Hell yeah.
Langston Kerman
Sign up for our Patreon.
David Burie
Sign up for the Patreon so I
Langston Kerman
can buy a stretching machine. I may or may not have promised my wife that in the gym one day.
David Burie
Baby, when I get home, you gotta
Nicole Byer
get a stretching machine. I'mma stretch you out we gonna have a stretch you out.
David Burie
We gonna have a whole room full of stretching machines, baby.
Nicole Byer
First I'm gonna get a car. I'm gonna stretch you out and I got that car.
Langston Kerman
I got that car.
David Burie
Then I'm gonna new shirts and then
Nicole Byer
I'mma clone my grandma
David Burie
and then it's going to be a solid gold stretching machine.
Langston Kerman
She won't get in the way of our relationship at all.
David Burie
She just going to need to use it to stretch. She likes to do that. You can follow me at Langston Kerman. It really sucks when you bomb at the end. You can follow me at Langston Kerman on all social media platforms and please come see me May 6th at the Allegiant Theater.
Langston Kerman
Let's go.
David Burie
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Langston Kerman
I'm so excited and I never did that before.
Nicole Byer
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Langston Kerman
For the record,
David Burie
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Langston Kerman
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Podcast: My Momma Told Me by Big Money Players Network & iHeartPodcasts
Date: April 7, 2026
Hosts: Langston Kerman & David Gborie
Guest: Nicole Byer
This episode of My Momma Told Me dives into the eccentric, hilarious, and sometimes uncomfortably plausible Black conspiracy theory that celebrities are being cloned. Langston Kerman, David Gborie, and special guest Nicole Byer unpack the now infamous Avril Lavigne “clone” theory, explore similar allegations within pop culture, and riff on the philosophical, political, and personal implications of celebrity replacement. Sprinkled with personal stories about fashion, body image, and identity, the conversation balances playful banter, absurd hypotheticals, and moments of thoughtful insight.
Timestamps: 05:05 – 16:00
Langston discusses his personal struggle to dress “fresh” as an adult Black man
He recounts situations where his clothing choices made him feel insecure or out-of-place, like being outshined by his brother at a fashion show or feeling like a little boy at the gym.
Nicole and David offer practical advice and commiseration
Fashion hot takes:
Timestamps: 17:47 – 26:55
Nicole lays out the Avril Lavigne/Melissa Vandella theory
Debate over clone vs. body double
Comparison to 'The Talented Mr. Ripley'
Notable Moment:
Timestamps: 25:57 – 36:00
Other possible clones & celebrity lookalikes
Hilarious riff: what would you do if you could swap places with your celebrity lookalike?
Timestamps: 45:52 – 47:00
Timestamps: 54:48 – 56:46
Could clones be exploited as workers?
Ethics and slippery slopes:
Timestamps: 54:05 – 54:48
Timestamps: 57:00 – 63:02
Who would you want cloned?
Dangers of improving a clone too much
Timestamps: 67:08 – 75:08
A very drunk couple leaves a voicemail theorizing that monks have journeyed through their city, but instead of bringing peace, have brought “more drama than the Real Housewives of Atlanta.”
The trio affirms the value of partner “drunk time” and shares their own stories.
On capitalist motives for cloning:
On Avril Lavigne theory:
On fashion discomfort:
On ethical cloning:
On not fearing personal cloning:
On ‘MAGA Bernie Mac’:
The conversation is comedic, fast-paced, and irreverent, yet peppered with genuine curiosity and occasional sincere reflection. The hosts and guest expertly blend absurd hypothetical situations with social critique, drawing comedy from both pop culture minutiae and big, existential “what-ifs.”
This episode is a quintessential installment of My Momma Told Me, perfectly balancing a deep-dive into a wild Black conspiracy theory (celebrity cloning) with personal anecdotes, pop culture analysis, and long, hilarious tangents. It’s a rollicking ride through the absurd, the plausible, and the thought-provoking, guaranteeing laughter and at least a seed of doubt about who’s really performing on the red carpet … or in your favorite sitcom.