Has Drake's Whole Thing Been an Act? (with Langston Kerman and David Gborie)

Summary

Podcast Summary: My Momma Told Me – "Has Drake's Whole Thing Been an Act?"

Release Date: January 7, 2025
Hosts: Langston Kerman and David Bory
Production: Big Money Players Network and iHeartPodcasts

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In the episode titled "Has Drake's Whole Thing Been an Act?", comedians Langston Kerman and David Bory delve into the intriguing question of whether the multifaceted persona of rapper and actor Drake is a carefully crafted act or an authentic representation of his true self. Throughout the episode, they explore themes of identity, representation in media, societal standards, and the impact of physical enhancements on self-perception within the Black community.

Introduction to the Debate (00:52 – 03:11)

The hosts kick off the discussion by examining the evolution of societal standards regarding physical appearance, specifically focusing on Brazilian Butt Lifts (BBLs) and their implications on objectivity and self-worth. Langston initiates with a humorous take on BBLs, likening them to "Mexican coke," and emphasizes how such enhancements have reshaped perceptions of beauty within the Black community.

Langston Kerman (06:15): "I think the titty technology did not catch on well enough... BBLs changed everything."

BBLs and Societal Impact (05:10 – 08:16)

David and Langston debate the societal pressures that lead to physical modifications. Langston argues that BBLs have taken away the shared objectivity of what constitutes a "bad bitch," making it more subjective and individualized.

David Bory (07:16): "It is for my freedom."

Langston Kerman (08:04): "It is just the difference between coke and Mexican coke."

Representation in Media: The Case of Drake (24:00 – 43:18)

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing Drake's role in entertainment. The hosts discuss whether Drake's transition from acting to music is a strategic move to dominate the entertainment industry or a genuine reflection of his artistic passions. They critically assess Drake's acting prowess, questioning if his performances are merely extensions of his persona rather than authentic portrayals.

Langston Kerman (25:26): "Drake is acting within a role, as a role within a role within a role."

David Bory (53:08): "I think we'll never know because the really great ones, you never found out."

The conversation extends to the broader issue of light-skinned versus dark-skinned Black actors in leading roles. Langston expresses frustration over the scarcity of light-skinned leading men in Hollywood, suggesting that the industry often overlooks dark-skinned Black men for such roles.

Langston Kerman (37:03): "We don't seem useful to them."

David Bory (37:15): "They hate the way we look in general."

Gatekeeping and Cultural Identity (41:14 – 44:15)

The hosts touch upon the concept of gatekeeping within the Black community and how external societal pressures influence internal perceptions of identity. They argue that both the entertainment industry and internal community standards contribute to limiting authentic representations.

David Bory (44:15): "I think it's because they want... they don't want to see us at any of our extremes."

Langston Kerman (44:39): "It's the danger of the Internet... because there are so many more of them than there are of us."

Self-Image, Health, and Modern Challenges (59:00 – 62:30)

Shifting gears, Langston and David discuss modern health trends and their impact on self-image. The conversation highlights the role of medications like Ozempic in altering dietary habits and cravings, suggesting a societal shift away from processed foods. They humorously critique how industries adapt to these changes to maintain profitability.

Langston Kerman (60:42): "It's wild out here, dog."

David Bory (62:10): "Unfettered capitalism is going to kill."

Voicemail Segment: Listener Interaction (21:11 – 22:35)

In an interactive segment, the hosts respond to a voicemail from a listener critiquing their use of the term "little freakies." They address the issue with humor and assertiveness, reinforcing their brand while engaging with their audience.

Langston Kerman (22:35): "You owe us an apology."

David Bory (21:22): "It's overly familiar."

Closing Remarks and Future Directions (52:13 – 67:55)

Towards the end, Langston and David revisit the central question about Drake's authenticity in his public persona. They express skepticism about Drake's acting skills, suggesting that his success lies more in his ability to project a multifaceted image rather than genuine acting talent.

David Bory (53:08): "I don't think he's particularly more talented at that aspect..."

Langston Kerman (54:28): "He was never built to be the king of the shit."

They also brainstorm creative ideas for future projects, indicating a seamless blend of humor and critical analysis that characterizes their dynamic.

David Bory (45:33): "It's called Meet the Midnights."

Langston Kerman (56:33): "We are willing to both be millionaires."

Conclusion

The episode concludes with light-hearted banter, promotions of their specials, and invitations for listener engagement. Langston and David successfully intertwine humor with insightful critiques, providing listeners with both entertainment and thoughtful commentary on contemporary Black culture and the entertainment industry's portrayal of Black identities.

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Notable Quotes:

• Langston Kerman (06:15): "I think the titty technology did not catch on well enough... BBLs changed everything."
• David Bory (37:15): "They hate the way we look in general."
• Langston Kerman (37:03): "We don't seem useful to them."
• David Bory (53:08): "I don't think he's particularly more talented at that aspect..."
• Langston Kerman (54:28): "He was never built to be the king of the shit."

This episode offers a blend of comedic dialogue and serious discussion, making it both engaging and enlightening for listeners interested in the intersection of Black culture, societal standards, and the entertainment industry's influence.

Transcript

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[David Borey]

Dad, I'm broke and I need a place to stay until I figure out what the rest of my life looks like.

[Tim Allen]

So a couple of days when his daughter moves back in.

[Langston Kerman]

The last time you walked out that door, you looked back at me and.

[Tim Allen]

Gave me a double bird.

[Langston Kerman]

I was 18. The double bird was how I ended all our conversations.

[Tim Allen]

The wheels come off.

[David Borey]

Can we try to talk to each other like rational adults?

[Langston Kerman]

Have you watched the news lately? That's not a thing anymore.

[Tim Allen]

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[David Borey]

Season two is coming to Apple TV.

[Langston Kerman]

What you all did five months ago was one of the most painful moments in the history of this company.

[David Borey]

Our message got out. We're famous. All of us. Equally.

[Langston Kerman]

Or one of us is like the star.

[Kat Dennings]

What did you see?

[Langston Kerman]

My audi's wife was Ms. Casey. If you want to find out what.

[Tim Allen]

Happened to her, I'll help.

[David Borey]

She's still alive.

[Langston Kerman]

I want to see my wife. He should have left.

[David Borey]

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[Kat Dennings]

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[Langston Kerman]

Incredibly detailed 17 minute story about his gout.

[Kat Dennings]

A story likely more painful than the gout itself.

[David Borey]

Next time save yourself the pain and let Amazon Pharmacy deliver your meds right to your door. Amazon Pharmacy Healthcare just got less painful. You got some new pussy in the middle of the summer.

[Langston Kerman]

You know what that is? Or at least what I think it is. That's the American school system. Like deep in your, like nervous system you know what I mean? Like deep in your fucking membranes, you're like, summertime is for opportunity.

[David Borey]

Right?

[Langston Kerman]

It is for my freedom.

[David Borey]

That's a good point.

[Langston Kerman]

And then you get some pussy in the summertime and you go. That just hits different.

[David Borey]

Yeah. You're like, I might not go back.

[Langston Kerman]

That's just.

[David Borey]

I'll be honest.

[Langston Kerman]

It's just the difference between coke and Mexican coke.

[David Borey]

It is. Pussy in the summertime is Mexican coke.

[Langston Kerman]

Yep.

[David Borey]

And you can quote me on that. Make a T shirt. I don't give a fuck.

[Langston Kerman]

Hey, put it on his tombstone.

[David Borey]

Yeah. None of my achievements.

[Langston Kerman]

Here lies the wisest man that ever was. Pussy in the summertime Is Mexican coke addictive? He didn't say that till much later.

[David Borey]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

He didn't clarify it. The government growing babies. Microchips in your anus. All koala bears are racist. The ozone lair owes me money. Marshy defending turkey stuffing.

[David Borey]

Y'all can't tell me nothing.

[Langston Kerman]

I wanna be your man. I wanna be your man. Yes, I do. Yes, I do. There it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me podcast.

[David Borey]

Where we dive deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories.

[Langston Kerman]

Finally work to prove whatever conspiracy theories you already believe in. Come on. We are down to clown. We don't give a fuck.

[David Borey]

Come on. We're just adding another echo to the chamber.

[Langston Kerman]

Come on. We are giving you just a few more pieces of evidence that you can bring up when you're yelling at your girlfriend.

[David Borey]

Come on. We just want you to be right after dinner, baby.

[Langston Kerman]

You don't have a lot.

[David Borey]

Nope.

[Langston Kerman]

But you got this.

[David Borey]

You don't have no money. That's why y'all are doing.

[Langston Kerman]

If you wasn't so broke, you'd be at peace.

[David Borey]

Yeah. Look at us. We say whatever we want to our girls. That's not true. What have you been thinking lately? I.

[Langston Kerman]

This is something I have been worrying about quite a bit. Is. I'm worried. I've been thinking that bbls might be a marking of our societal undoing.

[David Borey]

Oh, I get that. But wouldn't have. It would have started with titties.

[Langston Kerman]

I think they tried titties.

[David Borey]

Do you feel like titties did not catch on in the way that bbls have?

[Langston Kerman]

I think the titty technology did not catch on well enough.

[David Borey]

That's what ITT tech is for. A lot of people don't realize it was itty tech.

[Langston Kerman]

Itty tech. Come on down to itdy tech where we are improving the titty technology.

[David Borey]

That's why? It's in a strip mall. That's where you go to learn how to put titties in. Titties?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, you get dermatologist right next door and then Igg tech, then you get.

[David Borey]

Some Boba.

[Langston Kerman]

Pick up something at CVS on the corner.

[David Borey]

Okay, so you're saying they tried with titties?

[Langston Kerman]

I think titties were an attempt, but the titty technology was not strong enough. But I do think that bbl, once they figured out, oh, we can repurpose the literal body fat into something functional, it changed everything. And part of what, and hear me out. Part of what I think it changed was it snatched objectivity away from us. Right. It no longer is it that we are all in agreement about what a bad bitch is. And that didn't exist when I was a boy.

[David Borey]

Agreement about what a bad bitch was?

[Langston Kerman]

Yes, when we were kids, I think.

[David Borey]

It was a lawless time.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I think. But no, I think when we were kids, everybody that was a bad bitch, we all agreed on it. There was never, like, nobody was arguing whether or not Halle Berry was fine.

[David Borey]

Right.

[Langston Kerman]

It just was.

[David Borey]

Is that now, do you think because of first titties, obviously, now bbls, it's because of some of these bad bitches maybe exist more outside of nature, Like, I think so. I think that they're super bitches.

[Langston Kerman]

I think they're super bitches. But I also think that, like, it, then it's creating this thing where it's like, that's a bad bitch, I think. But she works at Subway, and you know what I mean? It's not working through our filtration system.

[David Borey]

Right?

[Langston Kerman]

And then on top of that, there's all this judgment of the quality of the BBL that then makes it more complicated for you to even see them as bad bitches.

[David Borey]

Because it's a busted bbl, because it's.

[Langston Kerman]

Not the best bbl, but when I was a kid, a fat ass was just a miracle on a miracle.

[David Borey]

It's just what God gave you.

[Langston Kerman]

It didn't matter what shape it was. We were just insane. Like, her ass is huge.

[David Borey]

Yeah, that's true.

[Langston Kerman]

That's a miracle.

[David Borey]

Literally stopping traffic.

[Langston Kerman]

And now we're like, it's fat, but it's not good enough for me, right?

[David Borey]

And it's like, what are you looking for? And that's what.

[Langston Kerman]

That's crazy. But it is the way that we've reshaped society and by removing objectivity. If there is no objectivity for bad bitches, there's no objectivity, period.

[David Borey]

So what you're saying is it really starts with bad bitches.

[Langston Kerman]

It always starts with bad bitches.

[David Borey]

They control this all. Damn, that's tough.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. And I don't want this to come off as it is their fault that we are in the place that we're in.

[David Borey]

No, it's just how we. We're just where we ended up.

[Langston Kerman]

It's just the programming.

[David Borey]

It's just where we ended up.

[Langston Kerman]

So this isn't shaming bad bitches. I'm a fan. I have been for some time.

[David Borey]

Love your early stuff. But I like the late cuts too.

[Langston Kerman]

Listen, there's never been an era where I tapped out. You know what I mean? There's like Prince. I don't do Prince. After a certain year. Not bad bitches.

[David Borey]

Celebrate the whole Hoopie psychography. I had the shit on vinyl transferred the whole collection of MP3 and they'll have some new shit in 2045. And I'll upgrade to that too.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm gonna be one of them old men still playing bad bitch music in they car.

[David Borey]

It just sounds better. It just sounds better in here.

[Langston Kerman]

See, y'all don't know nothing about this young blood. This a bad bitch. 73.

[David Borey]

Yeah, that's tough, man. It's interesting because it's like. Yeah, that surgically enhanced. It does seem like. I wonder. It doesn't end right? Because the technology only gets better and better. Or does it transfer? It's come up a lot. Does it transfer into robots where it's like, now you could just make the perfect robot and you don't even have to deal with the person.

[Langston Kerman]

I think that's where it gets scary. Right? Is that once we reach a point where you can replicate all of these sort of like women of perfect forms. Whatever you want. Or men and men. Whatever you. You decide that is. I don't want to make this some sort of like loose shaming of anything that, you know, comes in different tastes and flavors. That said, once you can replicate anybody's favorite thing, it becomes less their favorite thing and more of just like this shared. Well, it's accessible to all of us. And how do you move beyond that?

[David Borey]

Robots and then. But then once you're in there, once you are in the place of robots, then your desire becomes unfiltered. And then it's like, surely madness is next. That's the worry, right? Is like, we have too much accessibility to all this stuff. Right. Ultimately, you used to see. What do you see? One bad bitch a month.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Borey]

Like crazy. Like, unbelievable.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Borey]

And you were in Chicago Yeah. There are people in Arkansas. No. Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

They gotta ride four miles just to see a person. Fingers crossed. It's a bad bitch, but very unlikely.

[David Borey]

I heard it's bad bitches two times over. Get the Chevy.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. All them boys in the back of pickup trucks ain't all racist. Some of them just looking for bad bitches.

[David Borey]

Sometimes they're just horny as hell. That's fair. Yeah, I'm with that. You know, it's a worry. I feel like we've talked about maybe. Cause we've been together for the last two days. I feel like we talked about having sex with robots a lot.

[Langston Kerman]

It's come up. Yeah, it's come up for sure. And I guess what's so scary, even if you remove the sexuality from it, what's so scary about it is, is that we all are acknowledging. Everybody I talk to acknowledges how scared they are of robots.

[David Borey]

And we're still going forward.

[Langston Kerman]

There's like six people on the planet who are like, fuck yeah, this is awesome. And then everybody else is like, bro. Even the ones that'll buy into it are like, it kind of scares me, but it's fun. And I think I can pay my way out of whatever bad thing happens. But everybody's scared except six dudes. And we're just like, well, we can't do anything, man.

[David Borey]

God damn.

[Langston Kerman]

Sucks.

[David Borey]

Have sex with your partners, guys, not robots.

[Langston Kerman]

Come on. Have sex with your partners, guys and gals. And leave them bbls. Leave them bbls alone.

[David Borey]

Leave them alone.

[Langston Kerman]

It's making art.

[David Borey]

Unless you want to, then I ain't tell you what to do with your body. You want to.

[Langston Kerman]

No, you deserve it.

[David Borey]

You want to get a crazy fat ass? Go crazy, man.

[Langston Kerman]

That's not something I want to take away from you. I just want you to not need that.

[David Borey]

But if you need it.

[Langston Kerman]

But if you need it, I. Hey, all right.

[David Borey]

You need it. I'll look at you.

[Langston Kerman]

You need it.

[David Borey]

I'll look at that. And that's something I'm willing to do for you bad bitches if you need it.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. I'll get the bartender. When you tap me, can you get in? Oh, yeah.

[David Borey]

No. You don't even have to pay.

[Langston Kerman]

I got it. I got it. I'm cool.

[David Borey]

Got it.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm married. I'm married. Okay.

[David Borey]

Yeah. Anyway.

[Langston Kerman]

We didn't come to talk about this. No, this wasn't the plan. But we do have a voicemail.

[David Borey]

I'm excited.

[Langston Kerman]

A voicemail. We debated. Is it fair to say we had a little bit of a debate about this one, but ultimately landed this as a voicemail we simply had to share with everyone around us. So here's what we should do.

[David Borey]

Take a break.

[Langston Kerman]

Maybe we take a break and then we'll play this voicemail. If I were. If I were a betting man, I think that's probably fair. We're going to take a break. When you come back, we're going to hear this very exciting voicemail. More David Moore Langston. More My Mama Told Me.

[David Borey]

More Bad Bitches.

[Langston Kerman]

More Bad bitches.

[David Borey]

More Life.

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[David Borey]

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[Langston Kerman]

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[Langston Kerman]

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[David Borey]

I know, right?

[Langston Kerman]

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[David Borey]

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[Langston Kerman]

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[David Borey]

Hard to install? No, it's easy.

[Langston Kerman]

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[David Borey]

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[Langston Kerman]

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[Tim Allen]

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[David Borey]

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[Langston Kerman]

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[Langston Kerman]

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[Langston Kerman]

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[David Borey]

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[Langston Kerman]

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[Langston Kerman]

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[David Borey]

When they reverse terr. Back it up on Terry and back it up on us. I like to think that's what was happening in that clip. Not a fireworks mishap.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh. This is their reimagined version of it where it's just Terry, Terry throwing that thing around.

[David Borey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Think about. Close your eyes and not think about it this way, but in reverse.

[Langston Kerman]

Terry. That's nice.

[David Borey]

It's a fun time. Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Cause it's like. Oh, shit. God Damn. Damn.

[David Borey]

Best 40th of July ever. Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

That's fucking good.

[David Borey]

Yeah, that's a good time. Anyways, I'll place this. I'll play this. Voicemail.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Borey]

You ever got grinded on the 4th of July? That's a good. Of course, man. That's a. There's like.

[Langston Kerman]

There was a period in my life where if I didn't get grinded on. On the 4th of July, I was pissed.

[David Borey]

That's. It's really like. Getting ass on you in the daytime is so much better.

[Langston Kerman]

It was. There was. Yeah. There were errors in just my youth of both youth and adulthood, where I was like, nah, this is a fuck holiday.

[David Borey]

It is, though. Cause it's summertime.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Borey]

Everybody's gonna be drunk by dark. It's just like. It's a horny holiday, too.

[Langston Kerman]

Hell, yeah.

[David Borey]

It's like everybody celebrates. There's nobody sitting out.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. There's not a lot of.

[David Borey]

You notice, there's not a lot of, like. There's like, loser, like white ladies on the Internet who are like, yeah, this is everybody's day, or whatever, but 4th of July is really for everyone.

[Langston Kerman]

No, my dad is a fool. Is a fool. He's a full socialist and we never skipped the Fourth of July.

[David Borey]

Come on.

[Langston Kerman]

You know what I mean? Like, it's just a fucking good day.

[David Borey]

Too good.

[Langston Kerman]

You can't.

[David Borey]

It's too good.

[Langston Kerman]

What, are you gonna fold your arms on the best day?

[David Borey]

Come on. We have a holiday in the middle of the summertime.

[Langston Kerman]

This rocks. Yeah, and I don't even talk like that.

[David Borey]

Yo, you don't talk.

[Langston Kerman]

This rocks, y'all. This fucking rules.

[David Borey]

Ah, man, I can't wait till 4th of July.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, that's a great day.

[David Borey]

It's such a good party. All right, I'm gonna play this.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, we have a voicemail. Did we say that?

[David Borey]

Yeah, yeah, we said. Okay. We got caught up in ass on July. All right, all right, all right. We're playing this by. By a little. And thank you guys for saying. Keep calling in, by the way.

[Langston Kerman]

That's so cool.

[David Borey]

Voicemails are great. A lot of breathy. Getting a lot of breathy voicemails.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, you made the comment, and I don't disagree with you. You said that our fans are drunk.

[David Borey]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

That quite a few of them are calling, and they're very obviously drunk.

[David Borey]

Yeah, it's very funny. It's very funny.

[Langston Kerman]

And they're not like. They're not, like, blackout drunk. This isn't. They're not, like, falling over themselves, but they are like, oh, you should have stopped a few, like, a wine or two ago.

[David Borey]

You know what I think is happen? I think our fans are going out. Cause I think our fans are our age. I think a lot of them are in relationships. I think they're going out, getting drunk together, and the Uber. Like, you know what? No, I am gonna call. Yeah, I am gonna call.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[David Borey]

You know what I mean? Like, on the way home, and she's like, darius, let's just go home.

[Langston Kerman]

You get in a little bit of a debate about something in the car, and he's like, one of you is.

[David Borey]

T. Langston one of you?

[Langston Kerman]

Team David? You're like, no, I'm gonna. Well, then I'll ask him. No, I can ask them. Eight, four, four lil moms. Yeah. You didn't even know that they had a voicemail anymore. Cause you didn't listen to the recent episodes. But eight, four, four lil moms call.

[David Borey]

And I love that.

[Langston Kerman]

That's fucking awesome.

[David Borey]

I really think that's you drunk and.

[Langston Kerman]

You'Re coming hot off an argument. That's the best time to call it.

[David Borey]

And that's here. That's what we're here to do. Beat your spouse.

[Langston Kerman]

With words. With words.

[David Borey]

Ah, well, depending on what gender you are, maybe physically. I'm talking about women. We want women to hit men.

[Langston Kerman]

Sure, sure, sure. Thank God you clarified.

[David Borey]

I'm just gonna play it now, huh?

[Unknown]

You little freakies. Okay.

[David Borey]

All right.

[Langston Kerman]

Pause right there.

[David Borey]

Yeah, I think we're.

[Langston Kerman]

Wait a minute.

[David Borey]

Ma'am. Quit trying to fuck.

[Langston Kerman]

I don't know that that's a. Ma'am?

[David Borey]

You think that's a dude?

[Langston Kerman]

I think there's a possibility. From what I've heard so far, there's a possibility that's a gay gentleman.

[David Borey]

Oh, like, you think he's coming at you the way they come at you in your DMs?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[David Borey]

By the way, leave my man alone. It's enough. It's enough. It's graphic and it's mean. He has a family. It's enough. Shame on you.

[Langston Kerman]

Listen, I'm not brave enough to stand up for myself, but I. I'm standing up.

[David Borey]

You don't need to send him pictures of whatever you got back there. He doesn't want it.

[Langston Kerman]

I don't. I'm so grateful that you. You're willing to do what I. I've been afraid to do my whole. My whole career.

[David Borey]

All right, so you think this is a gay guy coming up?

[Langston Kerman]

I'm not sure. But more importantly, don't speak to us that way.

[David Borey]

It's overly familiar.

[Langston Kerman]

We have never referred to ourselves as little freakies. Little freakies. And you should not either.

[David Borey]

That's a crazy. That's crazy.

[Langston Kerman]

That's not associated with any of our work. Not one of us has played a little freaky on anybody's cartoon or television program.

[David Borey]

I've only been a doctor or a lawyer on television. That's true. More. And a teacher.

[Langston Kerman]

My. Even in my lowest role, no one was like, and, Langston, you will be Lil Freaky.

[David Borey]

Lil Freaky is nuts.

[Langston Kerman]

It's insane. And you owe us an apology. I'm sure we won't get it in this voicemail, but shame on you.

[David Borey]

And also, deep down, I kind of like it.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, you do too.

[David Borey]

No, I don't like it. I do a little bit.

[Langston Kerman]

I don't know.

[David Borey]

It's kind of flattering.

[Langston Kerman]

It made me blush. Yeah, I was like that.

[David Borey]

I'm gonna start it over so we can hear it. Does the freaky party.

[Unknown]

Hey, you little freakies. Okay, so I'm back. I had called earlier and was talking about Kane, and we're gonna get back to that. Don't be scared. But I have a morph.

[David Borey]

Don't tell me what to do. You.

[Langston Kerman]

Said something about Kane, I assume, raising or Cain and Abel.

[David Borey]

Oh, okay.

[Langston Kerman]

Kanan is raising. Ain't it raising?

[David Borey]

No, Raising canes.

[Langston Kerman]

Kane. Oh, you're Kane's.

[David Borey]

Oh, you're talking about the power show.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, the power.

[David Borey]

I'm Talking about the 50 Cent.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Spinoff.

[David Borey]

Yeah. Raising Canaan.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Borey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

I think. I assume this person is referring to Cain and Abel.

[David Borey]

Oh, okay.

[Langston Kerman]

But I am curious about the threat thrown right at the end of it of. Don't be scared.

[David Borey]

There's already a lot going on.

[Langston Kerman]

There's a lot going on. We don't have time to unpack that one, but we'll keep going in this voicemail.

[Unknown]

Fun one. Because I was listening to an old podcast episode from you guys about Drake, and so my mama told me.

[David Borey]

It'S okay to sing in these.

[Langston Kerman]

That's true.

[David Borey]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

I like that you clarified that, because I didn't. I almost spit my drink out. But not in a way that was. I'm not offended.

[David Borey]

No, you loved it.

[Langston Kerman]

I liked it. Yeah. That was really cool.

[David Borey]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Hell yeah.

[Unknown]

It's okay to say that Aubrey Graham is the greatest actor alive because he's playing a character named Drake. That's why we've never seen him in any other TV shows or movies or anything really past the grassy. I mean, even though he did great in snl, he's a great actor, but he doesn't do any acting. Like, why is that there's so much money in that? Because he is already playing a prominent role as Drake, a rapper.

[David Borey]

Okay.

[Langston Kerman]

I like the singing top to bottom.

[David Borey]

It was great. How do you feel about this conspiracy theory?

[Langston Kerman]

I think there's something very interesting in the fact that Drake, unlike any other rapper previous to him, came out of acting and then never went back to it and, like, won't even kind of take it seriously in any meaningful way.

[David Borey]

It is odds you would assume it's his first love, but I don't know the money margins. I don't think Drake would make any more money doing anything other than being Drake.

[Langston Kerman]

I think that certainly Drake probably is making more money than he would have made as an actor by himself. But I think there's probably a type of money that Drake could have made turning himself into the rock.

[David Borey]

Right.

[Langston Kerman]

You know what I mean? Like where it's just a cross pollination entity more than it is like just a dude who raps or a dude who acts kind of thing.

[David Borey]

Right. I also. But she's saying the point of this is that he's a Great actor playing the role of Drake. He can't even convince me he's Jamaican. There's a lot. A lot of worse actors. I get it. But he's not Denzel. Like, what are we talking about?

[Langston Kerman]

I think the argument would be that Drake is acting within a role, as a role within a role within a role. So when he pretends to be Jamaican, it's a bad. It's a truly phenomenal actor acting poorly in order to accumulate a type of attention and manipulation. It is. They're saying he's the greatest actor of all time. He ain't got time for anything else other than his phenomenal. Sort of like.

[David Borey]

Because he's pulling off Drake.

[Langston Kerman]

Because he is Drake.

[David Borey]

I don't. I'm trying to get my head around why I don't like this. Cause I don't think I like it. I think it's like. I don't think. I think he's doing. He's acting at work like most people do a little bit. I don't think it's like. Cause what is the true personality then? How far away do we feel like he is? Where is his true personality?

[Langston Kerman]

You ever see that?

[David Borey]

Because he seems to come off as, like, very petty and all these kinds of things. And it's like, all right. Seems just like a person.

[Langston Kerman]

Have you ever seen his MTV Cribs?

[David Borey]

No.

[Langston Kerman]

He has an MTV Cribs. This is, I think, when he was still living in Canada, this Canadian MTV Cribs. So that's why you didn't see it. You know what I mean? They got it a little late and no one gave a fuck over there.

[David Borey]

It's 18 and pregnancy. Nobody cares. You're too polite.

[Langston Kerman]

But he has a MTV Cribs where he's, like, living with his mom, and she comes back with bagels. She brings back bagels for traditional Jewish tradition. Hey, nobody's knocking a bagel. Big fan. I like big old asses and I like bagels.

[David Borey]

Really.

[Langston Kerman]

And I'm not ashamed to admit to same hand. I wouldn't say they're that close.

[David Borey]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Langston Kerman]

But I'm saying they're on the list.

[David Borey]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Langston Kerman]

They both. Hey. They both getting pressed presents from Santa.

[David Borey]

You know what I mean? I put locks on either one.

[Langston Kerman]

His mom brings back bagels, and he looks through the bag and he gets so mad at her because she didn't bring back, like, an everything bagel. And he. He, like, really gets upset to the point that he can't even really focus on filming his MTV Cribs. Anymore because he, like, is getting frustrated with her. And he's like, yeah, but I asked for the everything bagel. And she's like, I'm sorry, Aubrey, it's okay. And he's like, just. It just sucks because I really wanted the everything bagel. And I think that's who he is.

[David Borey]

But I think every entertainer has it. It's like Kevin Hart when he got mad at his man on the airplane for not having any money. You know what I'm saying?

[Langston Kerman]

But I'm saying that that still lives within what we believe Kevin Hart is. And to some extent, Drake is doing a performance that truly has asked us to not even believe that boy is who he is. He has to. That's the illusion he's aiming for. Whether you agree with it or not is not what he wants. Right? And so that is the acting, and that is a hell of a performance. And that is a lot of fucking work every single day. To not make me think that you, a man who I still think is a fucking dweeb, isn't this level of dweeb. And that's the. That's too much work to then also then go and, like, have a sex scene where you truly get to see him be intimate.

[David Borey]

But if he was that great at playing, why wouldn't he just do, like the Will Smith type of thing and just be Drake in every movie? If he's pulling it off to that level, why wouldn't he just transfer it? Because he's always already playing this character. Great. Obviously you can have a role. You can have a full career as a character celebrity that's typecast as themselves.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm really happy you asked this. And I've been thinking about this. I've been thinking about it a lot, and it took me a second. I don't mean to correct, but it was the tuna sandwich instead of an everything bagel.

[David Borey]

Okay?

[Langston Kerman]

It was a tuna sandwich, not an everything bagel. He got chicken salad for him. That's right. He was very upset about.

[David Borey]

I'm gonna watch this afterwards.

[Langston Kerman]

It's fucking nuts. You asked the question, why doesn't Drake just pivot this into becoming, you know, the ultimate sort of celebrity, the character.

[David Borey]

That he's already mastered.

[Langston Kerman]

I don't think they're ready. Ready isn't the right word. I don't think they've made space for a light skinned main man.

[David Borey]

That's why you wanted to do this. All right. I was wondering why.

[Langston Kerman]

No, I didn't know this was coming. I'll be honest with you. I Didn't know this was coming.

[David Borey]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Langston Kerman]

But I have been feeling it.

[David Borey]

This is what we need to talk about. You don't think, you think. Wow. You don't. Who is a light skinned leading man?

[Langston Kerman]

A list leading man.

[David Borey]

A list. Not light skinned, skinny. Not Shemar Moore.

[Langston Kerman]

Not Michael Ealy.

[David Borey]

Cause as much as they're great. Not a list.

[Langston Kerman]

They're not a list.

[David Borey]

Wow.

[Langston Kerman]

We ain't got those.

[David Borey]

Wow.

[Langston Kerman]

I really been thinking about it.

[David Borey]

I could tell because. And I'm trying everything in my dark skinned heart wants to refute this and.

[Langston Kerman]

I really struggle to think.

[David Borey]

You do have to be tonally centered to be a black leading man. Like, we haven't really from Denzel to like, who's the lightest?

[Langston Kerman]

Harry Belafonte is the lightest I can think of.

[David Borey]

Yeah, but that's almost like if you were in the black and white era, it kind of is different.

[Langston Kerman]

That's what I'm saying. That was so far back that it doesn't. We're not talking about the same game.

[David Borey]

Wow. This is. This is crazy because now it feels like we're in the same where it's like, you're not going to be a leading man. I'm not going to be a leading man.

[Langston Kerman]

Wait a minute. I think I can break the mold, baby.

[David Borey]

Oh, okay. You'll be the first. You'll be the first. You'll be the first. You'll be the first. You're great. You're great. You're great. You're great. You're great. Great actor. Great actor. Great actor. That, that to me is the more interesting thing about all this. I don't. I'm kind of sick of talking about Drake in general, but why is there. Do you think it's like, man, fuck.

[Langston Kerman]

I don't think even, you know, look how light skinned Malcolm X was in real life. They had Denzel Washington play him.

[David Borey]

Yeah. Wow. That's light skin erasure. He was red. He had red hair, dog. He was Detroit red.

[Langston Kerman]

Detroit red. He had freckles.

[David Borey]

Okay.

[Langston Kerman]

The nigga had freckles.

[David Borey]

Wash your mouth. I don't know.

[Langston Kerman]

Cutie patootie. He looked just like a Raggedy Ann doll.

[David Borey]

I don't know why that got me so angry, but that does make me angry. When you say you have freckles up. Really pissed me off.

[Langston Kerman]

This look like strawberry Shortcake.

[David Borey]

Yo. And they did have Denzel play him.

[Langston Kerman]

And they had Denzel play him.

[David Borey]

Now I'm really trying to search my head for like, like a light, light skin. Wow. What do you think that is? Do you think it was. Do you think it's like America doesn't want to look at itself?

[Langston Kerman]

I think in some ways, we haven't elevated to where those roles would truly exist. Do you know what I'm saying? That, like, for so long, black entertainment had been limited to either writing about slavery or the civil rights experience or. You are entertaining yourselves over here and it doesn't play. We don't care what you do. So, yeah, over there, you can let Shemar Moore be king, but over here, you're going to talk about slavery and nobody wants to see.

[David Borey]

Or you're going to talk about the struggle in one way or another.

[Langston Kerman]

And nobody wants to see a nigga with light eyes and freckles be, like, the leader of, you know, the masses of slaves.

[David Borey]

Are you picking. Are you pitching an in the house slave movie? Is that what shit? Cause that's the craziest shit I ever.

[Langston Kerman]

The dude just opens the door and he's like, you know what, y'all? I don't like it in here either.

[David Borey]

Lee Daniels presents inside.

[Langston Kerman]

I think we should all be free. If y'all don't get cornbread, I don't get cornbread.

[David Borey]

He's all skinny for some reason.

[Langston Kerman]

He's like a popular. But he's, like, passing out while he's holding the trey. He can barely keep it up because he's fasting. Trying to be in allegiance with the outdoors.

[David Borey]

No, that is. Oh, man. Man, that is funny as that is. Cause that's hilarious.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Borey]

Really one of the funniest things I've thought about in a long time, especially because it was Lee Daniels.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, Lee Daniels. It's a classier Tyler Perry, I think.

[David Borey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

There's a legitimate wow, though, that.

[David Borey]

I mean, I can't. I'm not gonna hold you that. I think that. I think that is a very good point. I never. Because it's interesting. I think that with light skin versus dark skin, we look at so much of the idea of privilege versus not right. And the idea of lighter being proximity to whiteness. But that proximity to whiteness seems like it probably does take away some of their perception of the black experience in a way that I could see specifically, like, Hollywood not wanting to reflect those things.

[Langston Kerman]

We don't. We don't seem useful to them.

[David Borey]

Exactly. Because they want. Because at the point they want a black body, they want a Denzel body, but they don't want a black ass body, because that still scares them.

[Langston Kerman]

No, they don't. They hate the way we look in general. Right. So the darker we get, the more they're like, I don't like that shit.

[David Borey]

Right.

[Langston Kerman]

You know what I'm saying? So it's just across the board, we don't like it. But if we have to use it, we want to use it the way it are prescribed.

[David Borey]

Yeah, that's interesting. I really never thought about specifically that Malcolm X point is very interesting because he didn't. He looked like Denzel.

[Langston Kerman]

You know, Denzel is not a. Has never and will never be a light skinned man. Do you know what I mean? Like as much as they tried to put like light skinned energy on Denzel.

[David Borey]

You think?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, sometimes I think earlier in his career he was a sexier man.

[David Borey]

Well, dark skinned guys get to be sexy on film.

[Langston Kerman]

I mean, I'm just saying that like he was like almost being treated like a model type man for a period. And now looking at him old, he just was. He had the same Michael Jordan effect where you were just so great at your thing. We didn't notice your.

[David Borey]

Yeah, we forgot that. You sound like you're from North Carolina.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, it was an illusion that they, I would say they put on him at maybe a point, but never was he a light skinned man. There are no light skinned sort of a list leading men.

[David Borey]

Wow. Not in front of the camera.

[Langston Kerman]

The Rock is the closest thing to it, but the Rock is his own.

[David Borey]

Yeah, he doesn't even.

[Langston Kerman]

He doesn't exist on the same playing field of. Oh, this is like an actor we've.

[David Borey]

He doesn't bring it up. He doesn't bring it up.

[Langston Kerman]

No. He hates it.

[David Borey]

He played at University of Miami.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, he's like my dad wrestled.

[David Borey]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Don't look up any pictures.

[David Borey]

The same place Michael Irvin played. Damn, that is. That's wild. Because it seems like you think about it and now I try to go through the scope of like what I know to be black. Black movie stars. And it seems to be even from back to like Pam Grier and stuff like that, it seems to be kind of like a monotone situation.

[Langston Kerman]

Well, I think the women they have made space for. Yeah, but that you can make sense of that quickly. They've put up European beauty standards.

[David Borey]

Right, right, right at the forefront.

[Langston Kerman]

So Halle Berry is more appealing to them than the dark skinned chick from in the House.

[David Borey]

Wow, that's a deep cut.

[Langston Kerman]

She was beautiful.

[David Borey]

I was more of an Erica Alexander guy. Maxine Shaw, Attorney at LAW. Hey, come on.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm not mad at that either. Yeah, I also enjoy that flavor.

[David Borey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like sometimes we derail great conversations by being horny. Yeah, well, and we're just men. That's just what this is.

[Langston Kerman]

But I do think, I think beyond the horniness, ultimately, I do think that women, part of the reaction of light skinned being sort of treated with this elevation that we're not seeing on the other side for dark skinned people is far more of a thing that women were experiencing and then reflecting onto the masses of the black community. I don't know that light skinned men, at least in acting, obviously in other fields it becomes a lot more complicated.

[David Borey]

Forgot football, baby.

[Langston Kerman]

Acting and entertainment, 100% light skinned men are less useful and thus not the creme de la creme.

[David Borey]

So what are we saying? I think if, I mean, if I'm hearing you right, I think that we probably need to get a super dark movie hero first. And then we bust that door open and we. And we bring. And we bring our light brothers through the door, right?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, yeah. A little trickle down pigment.

[David Borey]

Shoot it with a shotgun, bang. And then let everybody else.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, everybody can climb through that.

[David Borey]

Blow that bitch open wide.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Borey]

Dark and wide.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. That wasn't exactly what I was. But I'm hearing you.

[David Borey]

I think that we're. But we're kind of on the same.

[Langston Kerman]

I think they tried Jimin Hounsou enough.

[David Borey]

They didn't try him as the lead. They tried him in a Keanu Reeves movie where his name was Papa Midnight. Like, nigga, bro, that's crazy. That's a minstrel show. That's it. And maybe I read the. Maybe that is what they call him in the cartoon. But that, you have to understand me in the movies at 18 years old was like, this is crazy, yo.

[Langston Kerman]

His name was Papa Midnight?

[David Borey]

Yes.

[Langston Kerman]

Fuck. You know you can't sign. Come on. We gotta hold him accountable for that. You don't sign up for that. At what point do you put your dark ass hand down, Johnny?

[David Borey]

Okay?

[Langston Kerman]

Relax and go, no, I'm not gonna be Papa Midnight.

[David Borey]

That shit was crazy.

[Langston Kerman]

That's nuts.

[David Borey]

Fuck Papa or Midnight. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, like.

[Langston Kerman]

No, a hundred percent, one or the other. I get if he's Midnight. Sure, it's about your skin color, but it isn't like an elevation you put on it. Papa Midnight makes it seem like there are a lot of Midnights. But you're the daddy. You're the king of the pop, of the Midnight.

[David Borey]

And I don't want you now they're saying that to you. I don't want to hear that.

[Langston Kerman]

That's crazy.

[David Borey]

Fucking Papa Midnight.

[Langston Kerman]

Fucking Papa Midnight.

[David Borey]

That's.

[Langston Kerman]

You're wild, Jaime. Hoo.

[David Borey]

And also, it didn't even work.

[Langston Kerman]

Papa Midnight didn't pop.

[David Borey]

No, it.

[Langston Kerman]

What?

[David Borey]

I mean, the Jaime Hanzu, it just popped.

[Langston Kerman]

No, I've been buying all these Papa Midnight dolls.

[David Borey]

Come on, man.

[Langston Kerman]

I got a garage full of Papa Midnight dolls.

[David Borey]

I'm gonna get a pop of Midnight. Well, I'm gonna pull up with a goddamn Papa Midnight hoodie pretty soon. Fucking on here.

[Langston Kerman]

If you get a pop of Midnight hoodie. That's actually kind of hard.

[David Borey]

That would be. Yeah. It'd be complicated.

[Langston Kerman]

I would love to see it.

[David Borey]

Anyway, anyways, I think that you've made a great point. Maybe. I think that ultimately the point is that it seems like in a mainstream fashion, they don't want to see us at any of our. What's viewed to be our extremities. Their extremities. That's like arms and legs.

[Langston Kerman]

I think it has arms and legs. But extremes.

[David Borey]

Yeah. They don't want to see us at any of our extremes, be it the idea. Because. Which is ultimately them gatekeeping what it is. They feel like we are and should be. And that is what the big issue is with all this. Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

I mean, I think you can see it reflected. And not to make this, you know, champion of politics, whatever the fuck, but, like, you see it in Trump going to a black conference and feeling comfortable enough to be like, she ain't black.

[David Borey]

Yeah. That's crazy. And it's. I think it's because it becomes a thing culturally, where we maybe put some of that on ourselves as well.

[Langston Kerman]

100%.

[David Borey]

Like. Like where we gatekeep it for ourselves.

[Langston Kerman]

Well, it's the. It's the danger of the Internet. And you've talked about this before, that the Internet is now everybody's language.

[David Borey]

Right.

[Langston Kerman]

So when we go on the Internet and we go, this is black. This is not. They adopt that language and then spew it back at us. But because there are so many more of them than there are of us, we start to feel crazy when it becomes just a fact of their culture.

[David Borey]

Right.

[Langston Kerman]

And for years, decades, hundreds of years, sometimes we were the only ones who even understood what that meant.

[David Borey]

Yes. Yeah. I mean, you just can't gatekeep anything.

[Langston Kerman]

No. Not unless you shut the fuck up.

[David Borey]

Yeah. And you really just. I think really what you need to do is finance a buddy cop movie. Me and Langston, we've written it.

[Langston Kerman]

It's called Papa and Son Midnight.

[David Borey]

It's called Meet the Midnights.

[Langston Kerman]

Papa Midnight had an affair with a.

[David Borey]

White woman and they're gonna solve a jewel heist. It would be crazy if I was your dad in a movie.

[Langston Kerman]

You gotta be. Cause there's no version where I get to make you. You can only make me. That's true.

[David Borey]

That's true. You could only come from this.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. My daughter, she's darker than both me and my wife, but that's as dark as I could.

[David Borey]

That's so fun though. Do you feel strong in that?

[Langston Kerman]

I do.

[David Borey]

That's cool. That is cool for you.

[Langston Kerman]

It truly gave me pride to be like. Nah, I. Yeah, look at that.

[David Borey]

Look at that.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, nigga, yeah. Pull up, nigga. Look at you talking about, nigga.

[David Borey]

We both over here.

[Langston Kerman]

Check the score, bro.

[David Borey]

That's the joy I never knew about. That was a light skinned father and a darker kid. That's pretty cool.

[Langston Kerman]

Hell yeah.

[David Borey]

It would not, the feeling would not go the other way for me that.

[Langston Kerman]

If you had a light skinned baby, you wouldn't be proud.

[David Borey]

I need to tread lightly here.

[Langston Kerman]

No, go ahead, enjoy yourself.

[David Borey]

I. I mean, no, but if you want to be facts about it. Part of the reason, the allure of having kids for me is the idea of being able to pass on this thing that is so often viewed as a blight, as a difficulty in my life that I have learned to love and be proud of and that represents where I am. So that is like being able to embrace that is like one of the greatest things I've done in my life. So to have a kid and not be able to relate, that seems like a thing that would be difficult to me.

[Langston Kerman]

I get that.

[David Borey]

You know what I'm saying? So like, it's not that I wouldn't be happy, but if I were to have a kid and they also didn't have that, that's the one thing where it could be like, this is us because we're from here. And to not have that would be a bit of a difficulty. Yeah, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

It doesn't sound dissimilar to what I feel like I hear you and others describe in terms of a parent not born in this country then having kids in this country, watching them sort of become not what they. You know what I mean? Like your mom grew up in Sierra Leone. Her sense of what life is and what men and children should be is framed around that. And then to see y'all grow up in such different ways is probably similarly like. That's not what I wanted.

[David Borey]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

But I'm not mad at it. I love you all. I want you all to have whatever you can have. But this isn't. Yeah, this wasn't my goal when I set out for this.

[David Borey]

So I would love my light skinned baby.

[Langston Kerman]

Obviously just not as much as that dark one.

[David Borey]

If it was two.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, you get those weird twins.

[David Borey]

Oh man. Yeah, I could overcome it but like initially. Yeah, just like on the come out.

[Langston Kerman]

No, I think I'll just keep holding David Jr. Yeah, I think Ronald will.

[David Borey]

Send him to his mother. We're gonna play football.

[Langston Kerman]

I think Ronald can cry it out.

[David Borey]

No, obviously. Yeah, you would love it. But it would. It is a thing.

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[Langston Kerman]

Here's the last thing I think we should do before we end this episode is circle this all back to the question of Drake.

[David Borey]

Is he the greatest actor of all time?

[Langston Kerman]

Or at the very least, is this just a. I think greatest actor of all time still feels maybe be like too much of a stretch.

[David Borey]

So here's my issue with this. I think when we wrap around to Drake and the idea of in entertainment, bro, that's what they're all doing. I don't think that he is particularly gifted in that aspect of presenting a different part of his personality and profiting off of something different. I don't think some of these guys, some of these people you don't know, they're gay, they're this, they're that like. It's like. I don't believe that he's particularly more talented at that aspect of being an entertainer than anybody else. I do think the guy's kind of a savage. I think he's ruthless. I think he's sort of a bad guy. But do I think he's more talented at suppressing his personality to sell us whatever the fuck we want and nobody really who they are except for 50 Cent.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I, I tend to agree with you. I don't think he's as phenomenal of an actor as is being suggested. I do think he pulled a wilder, more grand finesse than we've ever seen. I think it's a truly legendary finesse.

[David Borey]

I think we'll never know because the really great ones, you never found out.

[Langston Kerman]

I don't know his just on record.

[David Borey]

I gotta watch this YouTube though.

[Langston Kerman]

No, I'm just saying, even if you haven't seen the YouTube, if you believe Drake even is exactly who he pretends to be, this is not a person who, given when he entered hip hop, I would have suspected could have Become the king of the art form. Do you know what I'm saying? That like Drake was never built to be the king of the shit.

[David Borey]

Right? That's fair. That's fair.

[Langston Kerman]

He's never sold drugs, you know what I mean? He's never beat anybody up. He's cried multiple times on many songs. He's been sort of publicly shamed and embarrassed and guffawed at. He's been accused of being a pedophile, like all the shit.

[David Borey]

Right.

[Langston Kerman]

This was not supposed to be the king.

[David Borey]

Right.

[Langston Kerman]

And he was. And not only was he the king, he's the biggest king we've ever had.

[David Borey]

Yeah. But I mean that's. I think part of that is the motivation that drives you to be the king comes from you not having been picked. That you wouldn't have thought that about Lil Wayne when hot boys came out. You would have thought he was great. You didn't think this was going to change and this was going to be something that we've never seen before.

[Langston Kerman]

That's fair.

[David Borey]

You know what I mean? Because he's coming out of the south and so it's like I think that that's like. I think that you sort of need that level of under being underrated to truly take over the top of any type of thing. So I think that that's where that comes from.

[Langston Kerman]

I don't disagree with you. I think, I think of Wayne's rise still within the lexicon of.

[David Borey]

It is. It is a lot less hip hop. It's a lot far more conventional. That's true. He's still from Hollywood, New Orleans, all that. Yeah, yeah. Whereas Drake is not.

[Langston Kerman]

Whereas Drake is literally a. He showed us in a music video. I had a bar mitzvah.

[David Borey]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

And we watched him dance like a fucking loser.

[David Borey]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

That wasn't even like cool little black kid dances.

[David Borey]

Would you say that Drake is the first light skinned main character?

[Langston Kerman]

I think there's a pretty fair argument for it.

[David Borey]

Oof. So in that ultimately sort of did you a favor.

[Langston Kerman]

He's kicking the door open for me. You're not gonna do it. You're trying to trick me. He's literally gonna kick the door open for me. I don't wanna go through that door.

[David Borey]

No, no.

[Langston Kerman]

It's a fucked up door to be in.

[David Borey]

I mean, you wait till everybod clears out and then you want to do it. Give it.

[Langston Kerman]

It's pretty good. Yeah, maybe I'll be cool. Listen, y'all, I'll be cool.

[David Borey]

Just don't take any roles for 12, 16 months. We're trying to get the numbers up on this. It would be great if you were a movie star.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Borey]

If you get a movie, be a movie star. Don't quit.

[Langston Kerman]

No, I won't quit.

[David Borey]

Yeah, me either.

[Langston Kerman]

I won't quit. I will talk to you different, but I'm not gonna quit.

[David Borey]

Insane same. And that's. I think that's fair. I think that could. This. That's as honest as we can be with each other.

[Langston Kerman]

There's gonna be a few more. David, grow up.

[David Borey]

Yeah. There's gonna be a lot less shirt on if I'm that rich. There's gonna be a lot more smoking in the studio. Like cigars, weird shit. It's gonna be hoes behind me and not him.

[Langston Kerman]

The hoes laugh at all your jokes and then they sit out mine.

[David Borey]

They cross their arms when you say shit.

[Langston Kerman]

They get on their phone while I'm talking. But I'm so desperate. I'm still trying to impress the hoes every week.

[David Borey]

No, it'll be really difficult if one of us elevates a lot faster than the other.

[Langston Kerman]

No, I don't. I don't care for that one bit.

[David Borey]

No, I'd rather that we both make a million dollars from this podcast.

[Langston Kerman]

That's the deal, folks. We're willing to both be millionaires. Let's put that on wax. Because I don't think they've ever heard us say that objectively.

[David Borey]

Oh, yes. I would like to be richer than y'all.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. I'd like to be very, very rich. And I'd like your support in making that happen. Happen, but.

[David Borey]

And I'll do some good stuff with it. And I'll do some bad stuff with it. Growing pains.

[Langston Kerman]

Hey, hey. Here's what I promise you. I'm staying neutral.

[David Borey]

Yeah. It's not. I'm not gonna. It's not. It's not gonna be a net negative. Nope. They're definitely gonna build some schools. Will they have my name on them? Probably.

[Langston Kerman]

Hey, we'll get a few more camera angles.

[David Borey]

Yeah, that's. I'm trying to have this. It's lit up already. More than it was before.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, they put on. They put another light in. They knew we was coming.

[David Borey]

Hey, here's one question before we get out of here. This real inside baseball, light skinned or dark skinned television stuff.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, okay.

[David Borey]

Do you wear makeup on television?

[Langston Kerman]

I do.

[David Borey]

Yeah. I don't.

[Langston Kerman]

You don't ever wear makeup?

[David Borey]

Never.

[Langston Kerman]

They've never put makeup on you?

[David Borey]

Anti shine. That's it.

[Langston Kerman]

No one's ever put like concealer any.

[David Borey]

No makeup on television.

[Langston Kerman]

Holy shit.

[David Borey]

Never once.

[Langston Kerman]

That's fucked.

[David Borey]

I. Well, yeah. Yeah, because I got beat. I got Beijing one time.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, but that's not makeup.

[David Borey]

That's. That's hair makeup.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, but hair is a different department, right?

[David Borey]

It was a black. It was a black woman.

[Langston Kerman]

Obviously makeup is the one that's objective.

[David Borey]

No, they always say, oh, honey, your skin. No, but sometimes there's black women. They're just. There's not like, I don't think there's a lot of makeup for my.

[Langston Kerman]

That's my point. It's not, it's not that I'm saying that they're being like bad people necessarily as much as like the technology doesn't exist for that means I am this fine.

[David Borey]

I am this fine. How about that?

[Langston Kerman]

Not one touch up, man.

[David Borey]

Not one. That's what I. This. I look like this. Me and my little baby. The other one, I don't know.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, no, I get makeup every single time. And it's even. Cause I've taken Accutane, which is the greatest, in my opinion and the greatest drug that's ever been created.

[David Borey]

Would you take accu. Let's say Accutane and penicillin are up. They take one away and they keep one. Would you get rid of penicillin if you could?

[Langston Kerman]

I've never had penicillin.

[David Borey]

That's what I'm saying. Damn. That's a quid pro quo, ho. That's a quid pro quo.

[Langston Kerman]

Accutane changed everything for me.

[David Borey]

Do you feel like it changed your life?

[Langston Kerman]

Like I do? Not because I was like struggling career wise as a result of my acne, but it was so deeply connected to my self worth and self esteem.

[David Borey]

Damn.

[Langston Kerman]

In a way that like, I, you know, it's.

[David Borey]

You do have, and I mean this in a good way, you do have young, ugly guy personality. Like you sort of have too much personality to be fine.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Borey]

You know what I mean? And that makes sense.

[Langston Kerman]

And I think in that way we, you know, we're all vain sort of little monsters that want to look our best selves and shit. And it's like, nah, I don't fucking hate looking this way.

[David Borey]

Damn.

[Langston Kerman]

And then you take a drug for six months and you never have it again.

[David Borey]

See, that's why Ozempic gotta call me, bro. I'm not trying to pay for it myself, dawg.

[Langston Kerman]

If you want to talk Ozempic, I just listened to an episode on the Daily about. About some shit that, that really fucked me up.

[David Borey]

Why?

[Langston Kerman]

Because everybody's been Shitting on Ozempic, right? Everybody's been talking trash about how bad Ozempic is or it's bad that we're.

[David Borey]

Everybody, we're running out of diabetes medicine.

[Langston Kerman]

What are we gonna do for the diabetics? You know, they're doing that shit. And maybe they're right. Maybe they're right that, that people are, you know, fucking doing a bad thing. But one of the things that they were talking about is how Ozempic isn't just a hunger suppressant. It also is like changing your literal taste buds so that people who are on Ozempic are actually craving fresher foods.

[David Borey]

Oh, wow.

[Langston Kerman]

They don't want processed foods anymore. They don't want sugary shit anymore. And literally the sugar and processed foods industry is like in a tailspin right now on some like, yo, we don't. They're not hooked like they used to be hooked. These numbers are going down. We gotta start engineering some new shit for these Ozempic motherfuckers so that we can get back on the money train.

[David Borey]

It's like sometimes you're just like, maybe we just need a hard reset, bro. We just reset it all. Everybody starts at zero.

[Langston Kerman]

It's why we need a little bit of China we've talked about. No, not the street drug, okay? The communist hell state.

[David Borey]

Oh yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

We need whatever that threat is of like, control to maintain some level of.

[David Borey]

They're gonna straight up kill us out here.

[Langston Kerman]

Human decency.

[David Borey]

Yeah, unfettered capitalism is going to kill.

[Langston Kerman]

Us because now they've created a drug that literally can make us beat the addiction we created.

[David Borey]

And then they're like, oh no, fuck.

[Langston Kerman]

We gonna be broke. We gotta get them addicted again with poisons. We have to create new poisons to make them readdict themselves to a thing that we keep telling them is killing them in the first place.

[David Borey]

God damn.

[Langston Kerman]

And the only way they can be free of it is take a drug that makes them shit themselves. Literally have diarrhea on a, on a near daily basis. It's. It's wild out here, dog.

[David Borey]

Meet the Midnights in theaters this fall.

[Langston Kerman]

You want to tell the people where.

[David Borey]

They can find you? Cool guy jokes87 on Instagram patreon.com davidbory you can purchase my special. All the money goes to me. Don't you like that? There's no middleman. I put the money up, I get the money back, you're paying me directly. Give me some money so I can teach my light skinned son to ice skate or whatever they do.

[Langston Kerman]

I mean, I did skate.

[David Borey]

Oh, really?

[Langston Kerman]

After school program.

[David Borey]

Oh, that's nice though.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, we'd like go to the rink every once in a while.

[David Borey]

Are you pretty good?

[Langston Kerman]

I was good for a kid that was just running around, you know what I mean? I wasn't like embarrassing myself or anything. Like that sucked as an example, I guess is all.

[David Borey]

No, it was good. It was good. It was good. I think we covered a lot of ground.

[Langston Kerman]

Just really made me feel small. But that's okay.

[David Borey]

No, I'm sorry. You're tall. You're big and tall. And you have a dark, dark daughter. Oh, yeah, that didn't feel crazy.

[Langston Kerman]

I didn't like it either. I was gonna let you live with that.

[David Borey]

That sucked too. All right, let's get out of here. We gotta leave.

[Langston Kerman]

You can follow me, Langston Kerman on all social media platforms and you can watch my special. It's called Bad Poetry. It is on Netflix and more importantly, you can send us your own drops, your own conspiracies. You can tell us what is the next light skinned superstars waiting in the wings. We want to hear from you all@mymamapodmail. We would love to talk to you also via voicemail at A44 Lil Moms. We would like for you to buy our merch. We would like for you to subscribe and like and rate and review and do all the things that are necessary for our future success. And most importantly, wash your ass. Bye bitch.

[David Borey]

Bye bitch.

[Langston Kerman]

My Mama Told Me is a production of Will Ferrell's Big Money players network.

[David Borey]

And iHeart podcast, created and hosted by Langston Kerman.

[Langston Kerman]

Co hosted by David Borey executive produced.

[David Borey]

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[Langston Kerman]

Co produced by Bay Wayne Edited and.

[David Borey]

Engineered by Justin Cotton Music by Nick Chambers Artwork by Dogon Krieger.

[Langston Kerman]

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