Jacking Off to Robots w/ Chris 'CP' Powell: Motherf*ckin Mini Episode

Summary

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My Momma Told Me: "Jacking Off to Robots" w/ Chris 'CP' Powell

Motherf*ckin Mini Episode

Date: August 28, 2025
Hosts: Langston Kerman & David Gborie
Guest: Chris “CP” Powell

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Overview

In this “Motherf*ckin Mini Episode,” comedians Langston Kerman and David Gborie welcome Chris ‘CP’ Powell for a fast-paced, funny, and philosophical exploration of “small world” conspiracy theories, the psychological limits of human connection, and the ways in which technology is reshaping our relationships. The trio riff on everything from reincarnation and social circles to dating apps, augmented reality, and the challenges of making genuine connections in a super-connected digital age. The result is a blend of real talk, relatable laughs, and some genuine existential questions — all delivered in the show's signature irreverent style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The "Small World" Conspiracy — Are Our Realms Limited?

[05:42–09:42]

• Langston and CP dive into the idea that we all live in a “small world,” not just by coincidence, but by design or cosmic intent.
  • "You're really only around about...I mean like 600 people. Yeah. @ most, top end." — [05:55, CP]
  • The conversation toys with the notion of reincarnated social circles — spiritual or metaphysical “villages” that repeat through lifetimes.
  • Deja vu is reframed: maybe you only experience what’s already wired for you, staying “trapped inside your own perceptions.”
• Video Game Analogy:
  • CP compares life to a video game background — most of what’s “out there” isn’t interactive; you’re on a fixed path with a fixed “cast.”
  • “It’s like a video game...like, you’re only—yours is linear right here. Like a Chinese guy dancing...bunch of sailors hanging around watching you beat up a car back there.” — [07:13, CP]

Social Connectivity & The Limits of Our Brains

[09:42–10:02]

• Langston and CP talk about Dunbar’s Number—the theory we’re only wired to know a finite group (150-300 people).
  • "Our brains can’t process the amount of information that we're receiving. That's why humanity is structured in the way that you're describing, where, like, we can only really handle, like, 300 people." — [09:47, Guest]
• Impact of the Internet:
  • The overload of available connection (social media, etc.) is unnatural and strains our cognition.

Performing for Big Crowds — And Dehumanization

[10:05–12:27]

• For standups, facing huge crowds warps perception:
  • Beyond several front rows, the “crowd” becomes faceless—a sea of “hair and foreheads.”
  • "After like, a thousand people, it’s just crowd...you're, like, sitting there and you can process through, like, eight rows, and then..." — [11:55, Guest]
  • CP links this to Michael Jackson (“Leave Me Alone” video): so many anonymous faces turns the public into a mob, “monsters.”
  • "The more people you know, the less people you can care about." — [11:47, CP]
• As the world shrinks for us socially, our ability to empathize thins out.

Generational Shifts: Dating, Commitment, and Choice

[12:27–16:28]

• Dating in the Modern Era:
  • More choices brought by technology are driving everyone “crazy.”
  • “The way that our generation views their options as it pertains to the dating world, that shit's driving us crazy. It's driving everyone crazy.” — [12:27, CP]
• Efficiency vs. Satisfaction:
  • More access (via apps/social media) should make relationships more satisfying but may just make us less content.
  • Old generations just stayed put (“suffered in silence”); today, “people aren’t willing to suffer in silence.”
    • "Our granddad came home one day and looked at our grandma like, man, this big old bitch. But you know what? But you know what man? A lovely day." — [13:31, CP, joking about generational endurance]

The Tech Leap: Augmented Reality, Dating Apps & Courtship

[16:41–21:01]

• Wishful Tech:

  • CP muses about the convenience of an augmented reality restaurant/dating world.
    • "I should be able to walk into a restaurant with augmented reality glasses...scan the QR code for the menu...scroll through with my hand, the plates, turn them..." — [17:12, CP]
  • He jokes about Meta glasses and the rapid speed of societal innovation, drawing a line from VCRs to streaming wars and drone footage as cultural leaps.

• Dating Apps — More Options, More Confusion:

  • Even with more options (50 million IG accounts!), finding “the one” hasn’t gotten easier.
  • "Because courtship has become more efficient, you would imagine that marriage should become more satisfying because you’re able to...Has it become more efficient or has it just become bigger?" — [17:36, Guest]
  • Both agree: all the “efficiency” hasn’t made things easier; in fact, it might make dating “psychopathic.”

• Genuine Connection vs. Digital Simulation:

  • Langston and CP fantasize about dating apps that can simulate a real vibe (holograms, AR), but both are wary.
  • "My fear is...I get to do an AI version of whatever that experience is, and then I don't have any incentive to truly experience the human being that’s on the other side." — [20:45, Guest]
  • CP fires back: "You can't jack off in there, you know, you still gonna have to order her. And that's what he means when he says genuine experience." — [21:01, CP]
  • The conversation devolves into playful banter about “jacking off” being central to any digital or physical connection.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Deja Vu & Predestined Realms:
  "Why would I have a deja vu about some shit that I might not do, but then I always do it?"
  — [06:26, CP]

• Video Game Reality:
  "It’s like a video game...like, you’re only — yours is linear right here. Like a Chinese guy dancing...a bunch of sailors hanging around."
  — [07:13, CP]

• Limits of Human Connection:
  "Our brains can’t process the amount of information...humanity is structured in the way you’re describing, where, like, we can only handle like 300 people."
  — [09:47, Guest]

• Dehumanizing Fame:
  "When you look at all his artistic expression...how he viewed everybody was monsters to him. Because it's just too much."
  — [11:12, CP, on Michael Jackson]

• Old-School Relationships:
  "Our granddad came home one day and looked at our grandma like, man, this big old bitch. But you know what?...A lovely day."
  — [13:31, CP]

• On Dating App Overload:
  "I'm trying to get one out of 50 million booty accounts."
  — [16:57, CP]

• Technological Hopes and Fears:
  "I should be able to walk into a restaurant with augmented reality glasses...scroll through with my hand, the plates, turn them..."
  — [17:12, CP]

• Human Connection in a Digital World:
  "What we’re looking for is a genuine connection. And the quickest way to get it with the best person possible...that used to not be possible because you were only limited to your, like, proximity space."
  — [19:50, CP]

• Simulation Anxiety:
  "My fear is I sit down with somebody, I get to do an AI version of whatever that experience is, and then I don't have any incentive to truly experience the human being that’s on the other side."
  — [20:45, Guest]

• Signature Banter:
  "You can't jack off in there, you know, you still gonna have to order her. And that's what he means when he says genuine experience."
  — [21:01, CP]

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Important Timestamps

• Small World Conspiracy & Deja Vu: [05:42–09:42]
• Internet & Social Overload: [09:42–10:10]
• Performing for Massive Crowds: [10:10–12:27]
• Generational Dating Shifts: [12:27–13:34]
• Augmented Reality, Tech, and Dating: [16:41–21:12]

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains a brash, candid, and playful tone—full of inside jokes, raunchy references, and sharp cultural observations. The hosts and guest weave between humor and serious insight with effortless chemistry, making abstract and theoretical ideas fun and accessible.

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Summary

This mini episode of “My Momma Told Me” is a dizzying ride through conspiracy-adjacent questions about why our worlds feel so small, why we can only connect with a certain number of people, and what happens to relationships as technology gives us what we think we want—but maybe not what we need. With sharp wit and a knack for distilling deep thoughts into relatable bits, the hosts and CP Powell offer a hilarious but genuinely thoughtful look at how humans form (and sometimes fumble) their circles in a world that’s getting both smaller and infinitely larger at once.

Transcript

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Motherfucking mini episode. Mini episode. Motherfucking mini episode. That's crazy. But how small the world is. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like it's just. It's like, it's. I feel like it's amazing, but there's a conspiracy tied to that. Oh yeah, bro. Which is crazy, right? That's the size of the world. Well, it's a small world after all, right? What do you think that absolutely means? What it means is that you're really living in your realm. Like think about it for real. Like you're really only around about. I mean like 600 people. Yeah. @ most, top end. And some of them, you know, older, younger. All of these are spirits. This is like your little village that keeps going from life to life to life. Like to the point where it's like you start looking at the connections. Like, how the fuck did this. Why is this? Why do I only see what I'm thinking about? Yeah. Like why am I trapped inside of my own perceptions? Like everything is right there, right? The deja vu's everything. You're always in the right place. You're always in the right. Why is that? Right? Like, why would I have a deja vu about some shit that I might not do, but then I always do it? Yeah.

[Comedian/Podcaster's Guest]

But that's because to your point, or to this theory, our world is so limited that we can only imagine what is, what is within that little like one block radius.

[Comedian/Podcaster]

It's like a video game, right, that has extensive background. Like all the mountain. Or like remember on Street Fighter? All that in the background. You can never interact with it. Yeah. It's really not like you're just like you're only. Your is linear right here. Like a Chinese guy dancing. Yeah. Yeah. One of us is at a bar. They're like, they're getting up. Yeah. They got winners. A bunch of. A bunch of sailors hanging around watching you beat up a car back there. Smoking a cigarette. Watching guy on Fight. Yeah. Well done. I like.

[Howie Mandel]

I like your high top, bro.

[Comedian/Podcaster]

Yeah. For real. That got an ocean spray at the top too. That cuz this wasn't straight up. That's too black. You know what I'm saying? Like you need A, you need a wave on your. You know what I'm saying? A little ballin. You know what I'm saying?

[Comedian/Podcaster's Guest]

A little of that fish don't fry in the kitchen.

[Comedian/Podcaster]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's real shit. But no sonic boom, though. For real. Yeah, I think that we only, like. Dawg, there's only a few hundred people in your story, right? You know what I'm saying? And the fact of the matter is that they all intertwine in ways that they don't even understand. You think you're the connectivity, but it's this plane, you know what I'm saying? It's like, this is, you know, like, dog, we're reincarnated into these small little groups. Like, even, like, just your wife is not your blood relative. But then you meet them, and so many synchronicities happen because you met them. That's like, that shit ties to shit that ain't had nothing to do with you. Right?

[Comedian/Podcaster's Guest]

Their friends become your friends. Their family becomes your family. It creates the extension.

[Comedian/Podcaster]

But to your point, for everyone, too. Yeah, like, everyone involved loops back on itself. I guarantee you there's somebody in your wife's family who just so happens to know somebody that you knew when you were in high school. It'd be like, what the. It's like. It's all a loop. There's like, you should be meeting people at this crazy rate. You should be knowing insane amounts of people at this crazy rate. But it's weird. Like, it's like a limited cast in this story.

[Comedian/Podcaster's Guest]

I think in a lot of ways, it reminds me of how we talk about the Internet now, right? And how, like, the Internet has reached this dangerous point where our brains can't even process the amount of information that we're receiving. And I think that is why humanity is structured in the way that you're describing, where, like, we can only really handle, like, 300 people.

[Comedian/Podcaster]

Yeah, you were never supposed to. It was never supposed to be anything.

[Comedian/Podcaster's Guest]

You need all these motherfuckers, and then suddenly we do, and now you're like, I don't know what to do with this.

[Comedian/Podcaster]

You turn into this nigga. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly. That's exactly what happens. You turn into this sociopath because. Or you turn into, like, think about this, right? You know, doing standup comedy, looking at as many eyes as look at us. Like, I'm such a people reader now because it's my job to understand the vibe. Yeah. It's my job to pick up when, oh, this is a room that I'm gonna have to warm them up with some crowd worker. This is the room where it's like, they're not really listening. Like that. We gotta go here. Or this is the room where these motherfuckers are mad. Who pissed y' all off? Yeah. Yeah. And so it, like, leaks into my personal life. I can pick up on so many nuances as it pertains to people's energy and everything, because it's my job. So just imagine Michael Jackson looking at all these eyes, having dreams about eyes and noses and ways that he thinks he's supposed. You know what I'm saying? It's like, we're not meant to take in this many faces. When you look at all his artistic expression, you know, there was, like, a couple of those different vignettes where he was, like, running from the paparazzi. Leave me alone. Just leave me alone. And get your ticket. Right? Remember that? And the thing is how he viewed everybody was monsters to him. Yeah, Everybody was monsters to him. Because it's just too much. It becomes a group opinion, a group mold. Like, you don't see individual people. You see mobs and just. You know what I'm saying? That's how he interprets it. That's what humanity becomes to you. Right. Even you can't. The more people, you know, the less people you can care about. Right.

[Comedian/Podcaster's Guest]

100%.

[Comedian/Podcaster]

Just how that goes.

[Comedian/Podcaster's Guest]

I think about even, like, performing in, like, big crowds.

[Comedian/Podcaster]

You know what I mean?

[Comedian/Podcaster's Guest]

I hate it, like, when you do, like, theaters and arenas and shit after like, a thousand people. It's just crowd.

[Comedian/Podcaster]

Yeah.

[Comedian/Podcaster's Guest]

It's not individuals anymore. You're, like, sitting there and you can process through, like, eight rows, and then.

[Comedian/Podcaster]

It just turns into fucking hair and foreheads. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like. Because even when you perform to that many people, you're still only looking at that eight rows. Like, you can't even. The size. It can be exponentially bigger. It doesn't really matter.

[Comedian/Podcaster's Guest]

I can't tell the difference between 3,000 and 10,000.

[Comedian/Podcaster]

Exactly. It all feels like a giant thing. Like, our grandfathers had it so easy and rough at the same time. Like, the way that our generation views their options as it pertains to the dating world, that shit's driving us crazy. It's driving everyone crazy. Well, here's the thing, okay? There is. There's a bunch of negative connotations to look at it like. Right? It's like, you know, but the bottom line is that, you know, everything is getting faster and more efficient. Right? Like, and. And so that would also include like people aren't willing to suffer in silence. Like our our granddad came home one day and looked at our grandma like, man, this big old bitch. But you know what? But you know what man? A lovely day. You know what I'm saying, right?

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[Comedian/Podcaster]

To your point. It's like you can only know 300 people after that. It's like, look after that, whose ass is the biggest? Who's the finest? Like, that's all I can care about. I think he love you know what I'm saying? There's no lie to it.

[Comedian/Podcaster's Guest]

I know 300 people. None of them are better than this. Here we are.

[Comedian/Podcaster]

It's a much better game to play. I could get one out of 300.

[Comedian/Podcaster's Guest]

That's awesome.

[Comedian/Podcaster]

How many people on Instagram? I'm trying to get one out of 50 million booty accounts. Theoretically, because courtship has become more efficient, you would imagine that marriage should become more satisfying because you're able to. Has it become more efficient or has it just become bigger? I think that, like, it's become bigger for sure. I don't know if it is more efficient. I think that all this, like all the tools used to date in court, I think it makes. Turns people into psychopaths. Okay. I'm telling you, just like Tinder. Crazy. I'm gonna tell you this. This is what I see and this is what I want as it pertains to how we're moving right now. Right? I should be able to walk into a restaurant with augmented reality glasses, right? Scan the QR code for the menu and sit back and watch. Are those. These are metas, but they're not augmented reality. Right? Okay. They can like translate stuff and read stuff. They can like. I can like, you know, what am I looking at? It'll tell me. It's a blue Gatorade or whatever. Right? Wait, are you serious? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Meta. Is that crazy? Can I try that? Yeah, for sure. Sorry. I should be able to walk into a restaurant. Augmented reality. Look at the plates. Fuck. The names of the food on the menu. I should be able to scroll through with my hand, the plates, turn them. Oh, Is that pasta with that? Oh, they got the rosemary. No, I don't want that. This is how. Think about how efficient that would be. Hmm? Nah, nah. Is this strong enough? Because what happens is, like, this is. It's such a jump that it's scaring us, right? But this is nothing but monkeys using the tool to put into the beehive to get the honey to be able to lick the honey stick instead of hurting their tongue trying to lick the honeycomb. See, like, we're supposed to be making it easier for ourself. We haven't had a double up on innovation in a long time. Like, bro, it's niggas who are still sagging their pants who remember VCR, tapes, DVDs, fucking. You know what I'm saying? Dreamcast, PlayStation 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. It's like, that's a very short time. Niggas ain't even mature yet. It's nigga still like, what? You know, dipset, everything. You know what I'm saying? This is one of the biggest jumps in history. I think that, like, we are leaning towards becoming a super society now. And even though we warring and all of that shit, the fact of the matter is it's fucking drone footage of the wars. You could literally log onto a live stream of the war and you're saying. You're saying you can see somebody pissing next to your car. Yeah, it's just like that. I will say to the courtship aspect of it, I do think one thing that that doesn't account for the idea of the availability of all that shit is a lot of times you don't even know what you want. You know what you think you want, and if you choose it within that way, via the computer. Computer, you're only gonna pick what you think you want, which is probably not. Not. I don't think that is more efficient. I'm gonna tell you some real shit because we're in analog stage right now, bro. See, if I were into that tech shit, if I were one of those guys, I would make an app called First Date, right? Once again, augmented reality, right? You literally scroll through and There's a personal 3D video of this girl's vibe, how she talks, her attitude. And y' all could sit down, maybe, maybe select a meal. We have a meal, man. The bottom line is this. Like, what we're looking for is a genuine connection. And the quickest way to get it with the best person possible. That used to not be possible because you were only limited to your, like, proximity space.

[Comedian/Podcaster's Guest]

But even, even what you're describing, my fear is I sit down with somebody, I get to do an AI version of whatever that experience is, and then I don't have any incentive to truly experience the human being that that's on the other side.

[Comedian/Podcaster]

You can't jack off in there, you know, you still gonna have to order her. And that's what he means when he says genuine experience.

[Comedian/Podcaster's Guest]

Yeah, you gotta jack off.

[Comedian/Podcaster]

Jack it off.

[Comedian/Podcaster's Guest]

Baby, if you ain't jacking me off, what we talking about?

[Comedian/Podcaster]

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[Danielle Fishel]

This is Danielle Fishel from Pod Meats World. Parents, quick question. When is the last time you won snack time? The other day I handed my son a perfectly portioned Pinterest level snack and he traded it for a Mott's applesauce pouch. I'm not mad, just impressed. And that's why Mott's no sugar added applesauce pouches are perfect to keep on hand. They're made with real apples packed in a super easy pouch. Perfect for tossing in a lunchbox, keeping in the car, or grabbing as you're running out the door. Plus, they're a good source of vitamin C and kids love them. Win, win. Make sure your kid wins. Snack time with Mottz. Real apples make real good applesauce. Learn [e-mail] this is an I heart podcast.