My Momma Told Me – "Pigeons Are The Feds" (with SushiboyMEXICO) RE-RELEASE
Release Date: January 15, 2026
Hosts: Langston Kerman, David Gborie
Guest: SushiboyMEXICO
Network: Big Money Players Network and iHeartPodcasts
Episode Overview
In this re-released episode, comedians Langston Kerman and David Gborie, with the lively guest SushiboyMEXICO, delve deep into a classic Black conspiracy theory: Are pigeons actually government surveillance tools? The trio investigates the origins and evidence (or lack thereof) of this theory with humor, skepticism, tangents, and plenty of outrageous insight. Along the way, they explore Black childhoods, candy, processed foods, the insidious nature of surveillance, and the convergence of AI, robots, and societal collapse.
Main Discussion Themes
1. Opening: Pigeons, Mentos, and Pop Rocks
Timestamps: 02:08–07:46
- Langston recalls a childhood rumor: Giving pigeons Mentos would make them explode—leading to a playful riff about the composition of Mentos and conspiracies around candies.
- Pop Rocks and Candy Cigarettes:
- David floats (jokingly) that Pop Rocks were an early way to introduce “crack rocks.”
- Mexico recalls avoiding candy cigarettes because they were "too real" and triggered by their resemblance to adult vices.
- The group explores how, contrary to official narratives, kids with family exposure to cigarettes often avoided “bad influence” candies.
- “If you were close to this shit, you stayed away from it.” — Mexico [06:09]
- Processed Foods and Big Tobacco:
- Langston and Mexico discuss the real-life conspiracy of tobacco companies buying up food brands and possibly “poisoning” America via food once cigarette sales faced regulation.
- “The motherfuckers that sell cigarettes now own the food companies and they're putting the same types of ADD poisons in.” — Langston [07:28]
2. Introducing the Conspiracy: Pigeons Are the Feds
Timestamps: 11:05–16:01
- "My mama told me... pigeons are surveillance cameras." — Mexico [11:19]
- Mexico passionately posits that pigeons in urban and “hood-adjacent” areas are not natural birds, but government cams.
- “I’ve never seen a motherfucking baby pigeon. Have you ever seen a baby pigeon?” — Mexico [11:46]
- The group riffs on pigeons’ unflinching demeanor and contrasts with real doves and other birds, calling city pigeons “the tilapia of the sky.”
- Mexico recounts the historical use of carrier pigeons, equating them to “emails” and suggesting they’ve always been part of surveillance structures.
- Wild tangent: Mike Tyson as the Illuminati-assigned U.S. pigeon breeder [13:47].
- “Mike Tyson may be the only pigeon farm in America now. I think that there's other niggas. Like, he's the... Illuminati of the pigeon detail given to the government here in America.” — Mexico [14:08]
3. Evidence, Anecdotes, and Urban Logic
Timestamps: 16:01–21:00
- Mexico talks about where the theory originated: through a conspiracy-minded ex-girlfriend’s brother who observed that pigeons disproportionately appear in Black neighborhoods, especially in poor sections of Atlanta.
- Pigeons rarely appear in more affluent or suburban areas—further “evidence.”
- “Maybe pigeons was just like a downtown... like a koi fish. Like Bird Rock scooters.” — Mexico [18:09]
- Highlights a kid logic: despite a childhood full of chasing pigeons, nobody ever catches (or kills) them, unlike other animals.
- “How the fuck we can't catch a pigeon?” — Mexico [18:49]
- Lingering question: Is there anything to do about pigeons-as-surveillance or is it just “the way of the game?”
4. The Break & Media Parallels
Timestamps: 24:26–27:00
- The team transitions into observing pigeon representations in media:
- Pigeon Man from "Hey Arnold!" and the pigeon woman in "Home Alone 2"—characters potentially cast as government informants/human-pigeon operatives.
- “Those were pigeon camera angles.” — Mexico [26:19]
- “It's technically a documentary.” — Mexico [26:22]
5. Online “Research” and The ‘Pigeons Aren’t Real’ Movement
Timestamps: 27:06–33:13
- Langston references a website: pigeonsarenotreal.co.uk.
- The logic: pigeons’ bopping walk and limited flight are adaptations for their surveillance cameras; their “bobbing heads” supposedly help stabilize the spy-cams.
- Mexico provides a pigeon schematic showing where the “tech” exists in pigeon bodies, including microphones and charging coils.
- Lingering doubts: What about all that pigeon poop? Mexico says, “It's still a living organism.”
- Langston, summarizing conspiratorial “evidence”: “It's a living organism... with Android type [technology]...” [29:49]
- Segues briefly—humorously—into their sexual attitudes, robots, and the looming threat of robot takeovers, both sexual and existential [30:22–41:44].
6. Modern Surveillance State and Global Plotting
Timestamps: 33:13–41:44
- Transnational surveillance: It's not just “the American government”—pigeons could be surveillance tools for China, Russia, or “New World Order” types.
- “It feels more New World Order, if I may. You know what I mean? It feels more sinister than just American government.” — David [33:42]
- General Surveillance Whether “Needed” or Not:
- Pigeons, like AI, gather everything for the day the powers-that-be decide to build a case against someone.
- “They let Diddy run for decades because Diddy didn’t bother them...” — Langston [56:06]
- Surveillance and an “all-seeing” motif are compared to the idea of an omnipresent God—a moralizing surveillance as social control.
- “You can’t really rule much that you can’t see.” — Mexico [56:41]
- Digression: existential anxiety about humanity, Blackness, and modern society’s decline.
7. Robot Lovers, Social Collapse, and Mexico’s Worldview
Timestamps: 41:44–47:59
- The conversation gets increasingly absurd, riffing on robot sex, legal technicalities if a robot kills you during sex, and the economics of robot prostitution.
- Mexico declares a preference for waiting to buy “robot pussy” until prices drop, likening it to the Tesla self-driving rollout [47:10].
- The segment shows the crew’s ability to blend serious concerns (AI, surveillance) into comedic hypotheticals.
8. Final Thoughts: Birds, Surveillance, and Larger Systems
Timestamps: 50:02–57:59
- Langston brings some reality: Birds-as-robots do exist for scientific research, but their purpose is officially to study flight—not for mass surveillance.
- Mexico, ever the skeptic, points out that “knowing bird flight patterns” seems like a cover for more sinister uses.
- “They don't need to know that. They need to know how much crack Lil Pookie is moving... on the east side of Atlanta.” — Mexico [52:00]
9. Takeaways, God, and Morality
Timestamps: 56:00–59:59
- The group muses on modern surveillance being less about “catching average people for small crimes” and more about total data aggregation for control.
- They draw parallels between government omniscience and theological omniscience:
- “They threaten you with that [gigantic moral surveillance], to where you are just acting on a morale basis as if you’re under surveillance at all times.” — Mexico [56:43]
- Mexico shares a final note on morality and his own street code.
10. Wrap-Up & Closing Thoughts
Timestamps: 60:00–63:07+
- Mexico updates on recent work—music videos, Nike spots, Sundance.
- Inspiration: “Everything in life is funny. Laugh at everything. Even if it hurts… Don’t miss the opportunity to laugh in the present.” — Mexico [61:40]
- They close with Taurus zodiac talk, more plugs, and signature banter.
Notable Quotes & Moments
- “I’ve never seen a motherfucking baby pigeon. Have you ever seen a baby pigeon?” — Mexico [11:46]
- “Pigeons… they were emails. It is government traced, government-track messages, brother.” — Mexico [13:10]
- “Pigeons are government... I didn't say they were American government.” — Mexico [33:14]
- “You can't really rule much that you can't see.” — Mexico [56:41]
- “Everything in life is funny. Laugh at everything. Even if it hurts… Don’t miss the opportunity to laugh in the present.” — Mexico [61:40]
Key Segments (with Timestamps)
- Childhood Candy Conspiracies: [02:08–07:46]
- Pigeons as Surveillance Intro: [11:05–16:01]
- Who Put Pigeons in the Hood? Local Observations: [16:01–21:00]
- Pigeons in Media: "Hey Arnold," Home Alone: [25:25–27:06]
- Pigeons Aren't Real — The "Research": [27:06–33:13]
- Tech, AI, and Robot Sex Tangents: [30:22–41:44]
- Global Surveillance, God, and Morality: [33:13–57:59]
- Wrap-Up and Inspiration: [61:40+]
Overall Tone and Recommendations
This episode is irreverent, thoughtful, loosely structured, and packed with punchlines and digressions. The hosts and guest maintain classic Black barbershop energy—skeptical, playful, and blending real social observation with wild imagination. Listeners get laughs, genuine insight into Black skepticism, urban myth, commentary on surveillance, and a meta-humor about conspiracy theorizing itself.
Perfect for: Fans of Black comedy, anyone interested in conspiracies as social folklore, and listeners who enjoy comedic takes on serious themes.
Further Listening/Action
- Submit your own conspiracies to "My Momma Told Me" and maybe get featured.
- Check out Langston’s special "Bad Poetry" (Netflix) and David’s "Birth of a Nation" (Patreon).
- Follow SushiboyMEXICO for comedy and golf content.
Final message:
Keep your head on a swivel—because whether it’s pigeons, phones, or robots, the streets (and the sky) are always watching... or at least someone wants you to believe they are.
