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Langston Kerman
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David Borey
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Lester Holt
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David Borey
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Lester Holt
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Langston Kerman
Firefighters are still working around the clock. As the world changes, we look for what endures. We are coming on the air with.
Kel Mitchell
Breaking news right now.
Langston Kerman
We look for a constant and from one era to the next, Trust is the anchor for NBC Nightly News. I'm Tom Yamas. A new chapter begins NBC Nightly News with Tom Yamas.
Kel Mitchell
Evenings on NBC.
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David Borey
I heard that there was a cattle. His name was Waggoo and he did many different amazing things. And they said, we got a name.
Kel Mitchell
Well, you talking about Goo?
David Borey
Oh, yeah, Wagu. No, I'm just joking. I'm just checking. Wagu. We got need to make more of.
Langston Kerman
Him, you know, hey, from now on, it's Goo.
David Borey
It's Goo. You feel me?
Langston Kerman
We honor him.
David Borey
Honor goo, homie. That's that goo. The government growing babies.
Langston Kerman
Microchips in your babies.
David Borey
All koala bears are racist.
Langston Kerman
The ozone layer owes me money.
David Borey
Martians invented turkey stuffing.
Kel Mitchell
Y' all can't tell me nothing. We started dancing, and love brought us into a groove as soon as we started to move. Welcome, little mamas and gentiles alike, to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told.
Langston Kerman
Me, the podcast, where we dive deep, deep into the pockets of black conspiracy.
Kel Mitchell
Theories, and we primally work to prove whatever the fuck it is you want to talk about.
Langston Kerman
Whatever you got going on, we'll agree with you.
Kel Mitchell
We're open, baby. Send us the email. Send a voicemail. Talk nasty to us.
Langston Kerman
It don't mean nothing to us.
Kel Mitchell
Actually, don't talk nasty to us. So that is getting.
Langston Kerman
We've had a few people talking nasty to us as of late, and it is becoming troubling for everybody.
Kel Mitchell
I'll say one note. Call us with your pants on.
Langston Kerman
You gotta keep your pants on.
Kel Mitchell
It's a good way to do it.
Langston Kerman
If you dial the number, you put your pants on, and then you do whatever you gotta do afterwards. That's not for us, the police. But while you talk to us, you keep your pants on. Please, please.
Kel Mitchell
This man is a father.
Langston Kerman
I could be any day now. We check the news every day.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah, I check my hidden message requests.
Langston Kerman
Hello. David, I've been thinking about this.
Kel Mitchell
Okay.
Langston Kerman
This is something that's been weighing on my heart heavy lately. And kelp. Feel free to jump in at any point in this. You're not. I don't want you to feel blocked off from this. I think I'm gonna say a little bit of a bold statement. I think if your children come out uglier than you, it's because you got a bad spirit.
Kel Mitchell
Whoa.
David Borey
Wow, that's deep, man.
Kel Mitchell
I'm trying to think of. I'm trying to think of people that I've seen that happen to. Cause that seems like that seems like a difficult life to be. Especially if your parents are, like, known for being fine. You know what I mean? And then you are kind of busted. That's like.
Langston Kerman
And, yeah, I want to be clear. I don't think this is, like a. Oh, you're within, like, a few points of where your parents are. You know what I mean? Like, your mama fine. You ain't quite as fine. Y' all are playing the same game, right? I'm saying, when it's, like, the baddest person on the planet and they got this little goblin with them.
David Borey
Little goblin.
Langston Kerman
That's your spirit transferring into person.
David Borey
Had an ugly attitude that then made.
Langston Kerman
A baby a baby baby.
Kel Mitchell
Here's my worry about that theory on the flip. I seen some very pretty kids go to some very undeserving parents.
David Borey
Really? Yeah.
Langston Kerman
With bad spirits that make.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah. I know a couple bad dudes who had some beautiful. Yeah. So it's like. It's complicated, but I like that.
Langston Kerman
Ah, yeah.
Kel Mitchell
So it's usually you're saying if you're okay, your kids are just gonna kind of look.
Langston Kerman
I think your kids will look like you and be within some bell curve of where you're at. And I think that's beautiful.
Kel Mitchell
I like it when people's kids look like them and they have their mood. I was walking down the street the other day and I saw this like light skinned dude walking too fast with his fist clenched.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
And he was like mad skinny and like with his chest out. And both his daughters were walking like that. And I was like, that's beautif.
David Borey
I got the kids working out. Oh, man.
Kel Mitchell
But it's just like, you're like. That comes from that.
David Borey
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
But when you see like a whole blockheaded ass family and you're like, man, that's good.
David Borey
That good, pops.
Kel Mitchell
Nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Langston Kerman
That's what it's all about.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah. That's all you want. That's all you want, right?
David Borey
It's just like, I got a good spirit. All my kids are beautiful.
Langston Kerman
There you go.
David Borey
Cause we ain't that nice.
Langston Kerman
There you go.
Kel Mitchell
There you go.
Langston Kerman
Ain't that nice? You didn't have to flinch.
David Borey
You know what I'm saying?
Kel Mitchell
And we're a part of Handsome men. That means we come from beautiful people. There's good spirits in here.
David Borey
Good on the outside, in the. On the inside.
Langston Kerman
There you go.
Kel Mitchell
You know what I mean?
David Borey
Cause some people could be good on the outside and then the inside they just.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah, a lot of people get by doing that.
David Borey
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
Get by real well doing that.
David Borey
Being fake.
Kel Mitchell
No.
David Borey
Be good on both inside and outside.
Langston Kerman
Our guest today not only is good on the inside and the outside, but makes good babies that reflect exactly that. A goddamn comedy legend. We're so excited he's here. God damn it. All that Kenan and Kel fucking Good burger. The list goes on and on and on. We're such big fans of his and we're so happy he's here. Give it.
Kel Mitchell
Appreciate it.
Langston Kerman
Raquel Mitchell. Come on, man.
David Borey
Appreciate it, man. I'm happy to be here.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
How this travel began. Living in America. It's louder on the podcast.
David Borey
Okay.
Langston Kerman
It's a little quiet in here.
David Borey
Okay.
Langston Kerman
And we're sorry we scared you.
David Borey
Okay. I was like, what's that?
Kel Mitchell
No, it's embarrassing to us. A lot of times. I sort of got it. Us. It usually works. Usually.
Langston Kerman
Kel, we're pumped you're here. You came to us with a conspiracy theory that I didn't personally experience. I don't know where you fall.
Kel Mitchell
I did not. I did not. But I'm excited to get into it.
Langston Kerman
You said that. My mama told me the magic and wonders of Tello Greece. Tell us everything you know.
David Borey
I will tell you. So it's like fat from meat?
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
Like rendered.
David Borey
Yeah. Like, you know when you leave it out and you get that thick, like, creamy.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah.
David Borey
You know what I'm saying?
Langston Kerman
On the top, gelatinous.
David Borey
So that is, like, scraped off and you leave it in a can. Right?
Kel Mitchell
Do you keep scraping it?
David Borey
Scrape it. And it just sprayed air, and it's just this big, nasty meat fat globe. And kids get sick. You know when we got sick, that got rubbed on us.
Kel Mitchell
Whoa.
David Borey
Rubbed on us. Like Vapor Rub. And you would rub that on you, and you would instantly feel better.
Kel Mitchell
It was like a meat Vicks.
David Borey
It's a meat Vicks.
Langston Kerman
Meat Vicks.
David Borey
You don't need Vapor Rub. You don't need Vicks Rub. You just have that, and it has. It's healing.
Langston Kerman
If y' all were worried about it. Yes. Meat Vixx will be the name of the episode.
David Borey
Let's go.
Langston Kerman
I have no doubt in my mind that that's the correct choice for everybody here.
Kel Mitchell
Here's my first question about it.
David Borey
Let's go.
Kel Mitchell
Do you mix meats, or are different meats for different ailments?
Langston Kerman
Oh, that's interesting.
David Borey
All meats are created equal in this situation. You're all good. The meat that makes the most fat, you know what I mean? Because I just remember it being so clumpy, you know what I mean? Like this way clumpy. But then when you rub it on, you smelled like. I mean, you were in a barbecue or. You know what I'm saying?
Kel Mitchell
The last three Sundays. Yeah.
David Borey
You were just eating turkey all day. But, I mean, that's a lot better smell than Vicks, I guess. You know what I mean? But you were very greasy.
Kel Mitchell
I was gonna say that. You wash it off.
David Borey
Very greasy. Very greasy. No. Okay, so you would go to bed with this. So, like, I would go to mom.
Kel Mitchell
Some little.
David Borey
Get that talent out of there. Go and get that talent. That's what it would be said.
Langston Kerman
Oh, yeah, go get that talent.
David Borey
Okay, so you know, you were in character. Go get that talent.
Langston Kerman
I didn't think you had a stroke or nothing.
David Borey
So you go get that talent. And then you wipe it. You know, you wipe it on you, on your neck, on your chest. And then you have to tie your pajamas up real tight so that.
Kel Mitchell
Oh. So you get the grease on your.
David Borey
Marinate, like you in a sauna type of vibe. And then get under the covers. Cause they know running around after that. Just get under there and you just let that meat smell. Just do what it do. But like, if you look it up. Cause it's a real thing. Like, it's for real. Like, it really helps people. It's Googleable. I didn't know it was googleable.
Kel Mitchell
Did you? Now, when you were growing up, was this, like common amongst everybody, or was this like a family thing? Specifically?
David Borey
Family, Grandma, everybody. For me, I just knew it was in my family. You know what I mean? But then it's other black. Everybody does it. And even different races, just not black. You know what I mean? Cause I figured that. I found that out recently.
Kel Mitchell
I heard Germans who smell like meat, okay.
David Borey
And they do put this on and hey, man, it's on. And it's on. The popping.
Langston Kerman
So all I needed is externally in order to be healing my insides.
David Borey
Yeah, if you're coughing, any type. Your nose, sinuses, all that type of stuff like that, it'll help. Yeah. Any type of flu ailments, it would definitely help.
Kel Mitchell
What about physical? Like a sprained wrist?
David Borey
A sprained wrist? Like rubbing it on for a sprained wrist. We never did that. But when I. Cause I called my mom, they weren't unreasonable. Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Now you're just being silly.
Kel Mitchell
Sorry, I'm just. I asked to learn. This was just for. I asked to learn. Flusing.
Langston Kerman
This beef fat was for your lungs, flus, not for your hurt wrists. Cough now.
David Borey
Wrist.
Langston Kerman
I don't know.
David Borey
Wrist pops would just be like, hey, handle that. You be all right. It'll heal. It'll heal.
Kel Mitchell
Here's one other question I have.
David Borey
Okay.
Kel Mitchell
What's the greatest ailment you've bounced back from? Because of tallow?
David Borey
Because of tallow. I used to get bronchitis, like, you know, coughing a lot. You know what I mean? And stuff like that. Nose stopped up, all those different things. And then you put this on. Just rub it on, go to bed. You're gonna cough. You know, cough up another thing that we would add to the Tallow is a clove of garlic. So you would get that, too, for vampires. Not like we were vampires or anything.
Kel Mitchell
Okay. But you would just go in against vampires.
David Borey
Yeah, so you would. So now our breath would be stinging and we smell like meat.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
David Borey
But I tell you, in the morning, you gone, You a new person.
Langston Kerman
So you eat some garlic, you rub.
David Borey
Some tallow, and we eat it like this.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
Like just a clove.
David Borey
Yeah, a clove. You know, and all of that, like, saliva mucus that's in there, it's coming out. So you in the bathroom, all that's coming out. And then now this, like, glorious meat lotion that you. I don't know if we should say that, but.
Kel Mitchell
No, that sounds very bad.
Langston Kerman
Let's not say meat lotion now.
David Borey
I think Tyson knew a name.
Jake Hanrahan
We can't say meat lotion.
David Borey
Meat lotion shirts are coming. Okay, so meat lotion hoodies, brother, if.
Langston Kerman
You can beat us to the market. This is proprietary, I believe you'll find in the contract. Meat lotion belongs to. My mama told me.
David Borey
Hey, look. And you were good. You were good.
Kel Mitchell
Okay, so one final question I have for you.
David Borey
Let's get it.
Kel Mitchell
How long do you still continue this? Do you have it at your house now?
Langston Kerman
Great question.
David Borey
I have done, mostly. Cause I eat differently now, so, like, a lot of fat content. We don't eat.
Kel Mitchell
There's not a lot of meat at the house.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
Damn.
David Borey
Yeah. I mean, we have meat there, but it's not like lean cuts, the fat that you would get from, like, pork and stuff like that. You know what I mean?
Langston Kerman
This isn't soft.
David Borey
This isn't fat.
Langston Kerman
This isn't.
Kel Mitchell
Chicken breast. Isn't gonna be.
David Borey
Yeah, but it is effective. It does work.
Kel Mitchell
Okay. It does work. You know what I mean?
David Borey
When they come over and they're at the house. Cause, you know, the grandparents come over, you know, there's some tallow that's ready to go, you know, and then sometimes it's in a grocery bag. You know what I mean? You know, just so you can get another globe.
Kel Mitchell
Okay. If you're in the. In the.
David Borey
In the bedroom and you sleep, get another.
Langston Kerman
So you.
Kel Mitchell
My mom, use grease in a can?
Langston Kerman
Yeah, we.
Kel Mitchell
Or like a Crisco can.
Langston Kerman
We do grease in, like, an empty can. And then you throw it out. We ain't reapplying it ever. Sometimes you reuse it, but you're not. You're not putting it back on the body. In my home, at least. But. So you're saying you stand behind It. Even as you are not necessarily accessing it the way that you would like, you would still use it. Theoretically.
David Borey
It's a good. What do you remedy? You know, household.
Kel Mitchell
No, I love a home remedy.
David Borey
Home remedy.
Kel Mitchell
You know what I mean?
David Borey
I don't know if it's for everybody, but it definitely worked in my family. You know what I mean? It definitely worked. I mean, you smell like a nice kitchen dinner.
Kel Mitchell
Was there ever any side effects? Do you ever wake up and you're like, damn, I got tallow pimples or something?
David Borey
What did used to happen? Because, you know, pajamas and stuff like that, like when you wake up, it was like stuck.
Langston Kerman
It's probably stuck to your skin.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah.
David Borey
So that would happen if you did have, like, some type of fever. Like, it was a hot night, you know, you're hot. So, yeah, you're truly cooking. You're.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah, you're actually baking. You're cooking.
David Borey
You're sweating out all of that mucus and nastiness that's inside of you real good. And the grease is helping that.
Kel Mitchell
Have your dogs in the laundry, man.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Borey
Don't have your cats and stuff around and animals. Cause they might lick ugly or whatever.
Langston Kerman
Licking their lips.
David Borey
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
You gonna look like a big turkey like in the cartoons.
Kel Mitchell
You smell like a big turkey.
David Borey
I had a cat named Smokey that used to jump in my room all the time, just like. Maybe that's why Smokey was. I don't know.
Kel Mitchell
Maybe that's why Smokey. Smokey was. When we were s. It was food time.
Langston Kerman
Any day now. Oh, Kelly ain't gonna make it this week. All right. No, we should take a break and then. And then we'll be back. Yeah, go. Go get some talent. Yeah, we'll be back with more Kel Mitchell.
Kel Mitchell
More.
Langston Kerman
My mama told me.
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Kel Mitchell
We are back. Why are you running? Why are you running?
David Borey
Why are you running?
Kel Mitchell
Just a little bit of me being me.
David Borey
Okay, okay. Okay.
Kel Mitchell
This is my express. This is my canvas. These are my paintbrushes.
David Borey
Got a lot of sound effects.
Langston Kerman
My boy is an artist.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah, I can't draw, though.
Langston Kerman
Come on, man. We're still here with Kel Mitchell. We're still talking about Talagreece. Yes. As a home remedy. A cure all for the ills that I guess hurt you, the things that are fucking you up. My question for you is, is this something you plan to transfer forward to your children?
Kel Mitchell
Ooh, that's a good question.
David Borey
You know, okay, so, yeah, definitely different. But if there's a situation where it's like, you know, someone has a cold and we don't have the right, you know, medicine that we use already, just know, like, MacGyver, you can go, hey, get that talent.
Langston Kerman
We can get this popping.
Kel Mitchell
You know what I'm saying?
David Borey
We got something.
Kel Mitchell
We're all dime a talent.
David Borey
We're the type of family, like, we have a lot of good health initiatives. So we're always looking for other ways that are. That you could do just healthy, not like medicine pills and stuff like that. You know, healthier ways of getting your body right. So, you know, that's a good one. But it is Grease, so. But it is Greece, so that's. I don't know. You know, everybody.
Langston Kerman
I like that this is where you broke. Cause you were real confident before.
Kel Mitchell
You know what I mean? You was really.
Langston Kerman
You was saying it was mean.
David Borey
I was at Four Seasons. And then I thought about it. It was like, there's no doubt in.
Langston Kerman
My mind, talent is the future of home remedies.
David Borey
They were like, would you weigh what.
Langston Kerman
You put on your kids Now?
David Borey
Listen, listen, brother.
Kel Mitchell
You started doing a calorie count. You were like, all right, nitrate calories.
David Borey
Might be going into baby. There's good fats, and there's that into my babies. I don't know if I want all the calories going into my babies. They got to burn it off.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah, you gotta burn off that table by more.
Langston Kerman
But it is the fascinating.
David Borey
It's fascinating.
Langston Kerman
I guess at its root. What's fascinating about it is not so much that, like, oh, Tella is real or it's fake. It works or it doesn't. I bet it very much represents a root of what is medicinal.
Kel Mitchell
Right.
Langston Kerman
That, like, all over the counter medicines are based off of something that began as, like, A holistic, sort of like grassroots version of medicine.
David Borey
There you go.
Langston Kerman
And then you turn it into this other thing via.
Kel Mitchell
Do you think that, though sometimes it feels like pharmaceuticals were like. I don't feel like they are all based in home in a way that, like acetaminophen or ibuprofen or even like a Nyquil or something like that.
Langston Kerman
I think it's inspired by a real thing that probably once existed and then they spun it off and figured.
Kel Mitchell
I mean, I guess it's like developed over time.
Langston Kerman
You figure out you can make that cheaper with chemicals and so you just eliminate the plant. But at some point the plant inspired it. Yeah, exactly.
Kel Mitchell
Right, right, right.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
See, because I'm hearing you, I will still take Nyquil. Yeah, Just like, you know, you get a little buzz. It's kind of fun.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
Nyquil right before bed after a little white lotus.
David Borey
You need a little garlic. Get a little garlic in you.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah, Come on.
David Borey
That's what you need, man.
Langston Kerman
You need to chop.
David Borey
Trust me. Your next, like, wild night. You're gonna be like, Kel said, eat some garlic.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. He won't make his kids eat garlic.
David Borey
But.
Langston Kerman
But the brother told me to eat garlic.
David Borey
No, they'll do. I'll let them eat the garlic raw.
Kel Mitchell
Garlic is antifungal. It's like a very strong antifungal. So if you got these food or something like that, you eat garlic pills, get it out.
Langston Kerman
Damn.
Kel Mitchell
You know what I mean?
David Borey
Now your breath gonna smell, but. Yeah, but you're gonna be great.
Langston Kerman
Here's something that I did not realize as it relates to tallow grease, that I'm curious to hear your thoughts on. Tallow grease is now being sold, like, as a fancy thing.
Kel Mitchell
That's.
David Borey
See if you're listening on that video. You see my hands are going up in victory because this is real.
Langston Kerman
It's being sold as sort of like, in some cases, $50 jug of fat that you cook with. I suppose you this is what the pictures imply, but some of them also make it look like they're keeping them in almost like lotion jars. Yeah, like the little Mason.
Kel Mitchell
Oh, no.
Langston Kerman
Type situation. No, like the. The masony ones with the buckle on the end.
Kel Mitchell
Like a palmer is a grease.
Langston Kerman
No, no, no. Yeah, jerkins.
Kel Mitchell
I don't think it would squeeze out here. Yes. It's too big.
Langston Kerman
There's a bone standing there.
Kel Mitchell
Got the burnt crispy bits in it.
David Borey
Oh, man.
Langston Kerman
Burnt ends flavor. I don't want to smell like that. Who is it being marketed towards just based off of the look, the general vibe of it, it very much feels like white people.
Kel Mitchell
Ain't that how it goes?
Langston Kerman
This feels very.
Kel Mitchell
This is like crazy, this music versus country music.
Langston Kerman
Like, you know, the type of people who kind of like imagine they still like the new version of Little House on the Prairie. Like that type of energy. Oh, it's the cracker barrel. It's sort of like I a down home ish vibe.
Kel Mitchell
That's the kind of rich I want to get to. It seems like there's a level of rich where you start to regress and then you're like, no, no, no, I don't need medicine. I just need natural stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good rich. That's a good level to be at.
Langston Kerman
It is a very nice level of rich. And it seems to be what they're offer to these rich people.
Kel Mitchell
It's like past eating at Whole Foods 100% like, it's like erewhon.
Langston Kerman
This one is wagyu beef tallow.
David Borey
Wagyu beef talent.
Kel Mitchell
And let me tell you the truth, I'm gonna say it on camera. I don't even know what that means. Wagyu, truly. What is it? What is it?
David Borey
Gotta be some wagyu beef, man.
Kel Mitchell
I've had it, I've ordered it. I've had a five. Yeah, what is it?
David Borey
It's beef.
Kel Mitchell
Well, no. What does that mean? No, you guys are laughing at me. Tell me what it means.
Langston Kerman
My understanding.
Kel Mitchell
Tell me how you categorize it as wagyu.
Langston Kerman
I'll tell you what I've been told and then I'll tell you what I believe.
Kel Mitchell
Okay, okay.
Langston Kerman
What I've been told is that wagyu is a specific cattle from Japan. That they feed a very specific clean diet and thus makes the cattle just taste better and the meat, like sturdier. It just improves the quality of the meat.
David Borey
It's grass fed, right?
Langston Kerman
Based off of like. But it's not just grass fed. It's like a very diet relating to grass and timing and shit. It really is like an investment in the cows and that's why it's so.
Kel Mitchell
I mean, I've seen the profile mistakes, right? They're like marbled a certain way. They look like very dotted with it. I understand what it looks like. What I don't believe is the preparation that they're giving all these cattle for me then to go to Costco right next to the chicken bites and get wagyu meatballs. I don't believe.
Langston Kerman
No, I believe very much. I told you. I tell you what. They tell me. And I'll tell you what I believe. I believe that's the exact same meat we eat in every other circumstance. And I think that they just tell you that it's wagyu because the brand makes it make sense when you eat.
Kel Mitchell
I think so too. I think so too. It's like Kobe beef. Same thing. Because when I've had. I've definitely had wagyu, where I'm like, oh, I can tell this meat. Meat feels richer and whatever else.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
And like, because it's so rich, you can't eat a lot of it or whatever else.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
But I don't, I don't. I don't believe in that. That's probably good tallow, though, is wagyu tallow.
David Borey
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Langston Kerman
Like to the.
Kel Mitchell
What are they charging for a garment here that's.
Langston Kerman
It's 29.99. The most expensive I'm seeing is grass fed grass finished tallow.
Kel Mitchell
What is grass finished mean?
Langston Kerman
I don't know, it's. That's a new term.
David Borey
It's clean, fully.
Kel Mitchell
That's what it sounds like. Like there. You really want me to pay more.
David Borey
For it to eat? Like, it helps.
Langston Kerman
Let's see what it says. Just more flavorful and better. A better option for high cook of high heat cooking. Got it right down.
Kel Mitchell
Frying.
David Borey
Rub it on yourself.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah. Also frying is what they mean.
Langston Kerman
And they said it boosts your immune health.
David Borey
Come on with my mama. Shout out to Rita Mitchell, she had it right.
Langston Kerman
Processed beef tallow in your diet. Now this is where it gets nasty for me, okay? Because this is specifically being marketed at white people. It does feel like this sort of manipulation of what actually is healing in a way where like for years they were telling us that like these down home remedies, they don't work on your body. That ain't real. You gotta grow up, you gotta trust science, whatever. And you introduce Dymatap, Robituss and all these other things that may. In fact, that makes me question at least, are they legitimately good for me? If you've been trying to convince me that these other things were bad for me. You know what I mean? Like they made you second guess tallow and you grew up with the shit.
David Borey
I grew up with it.
Kel Mitchell
Damn.
David Borey
But I still use other good remedies.
Langston Kerman
No, that's what I mean.
David Borey
But I got you, right?
Kel Mitchell
Like you have a medicine.
David Borey
I hear what you're saying. I heard what you're saying, though. But I do other remedies outside of the medicine cabinets too. Cause to what you're saying, like some medicines are just messing you up, right? Yeah. You know what I mean? So you gotta do your research. A lot of it we can do through eating the right stuff and cooking the right stuff. You know what I mean?
Kel Mitchell
I will say I'm back in on medicine.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, you're back in on medicine manually.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah, I was out for a long time I think mostly cause I was just very poor. And lately I am backing on medicine.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
Cause it's very easy to not if you don't have health insurance to dictate you finding the correct medicine. It's very easy for you to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Some of that shit is amazing though. They're doing crazy shit.
Langston Kerman
100%. But this is where it gets interesting for me as it relates to that. Right. Is there. I also see here them talking about like at one point, I guess beef tallow was banned. It wasn't allowed to be, I guess used or sold as it's being sold now. And the reason was because of growing concerns about its high saturated fat content and potential health risks. Meaning that at one point they told us that this was poison, that this was bad for us to consume, to put on our bodies, whatever it is. And at some point it became profitable in a way that then makes them go actually nevermind, it's not.
Kel Mitchell
I mean is that like when was it banned? Was that like the 90s? Fat free curries when they started over processing everything?
Langston Kerman
Yeah, I think specifically it looks like McDonald's along with other fast food chains like Burger King and Wendy's switched from beef tallow to vegetable oils in the 90s. So this was them responding to sort of this vision of. In the 80s, Department of Agriculture issued guidelines recommending reduced fat intake, especially saturated fat, which contributes to decline in beef tallow use.
David Borey
That's deep. Damn, that's deep.
Kel Mitchell
I'm still in on tallow.
David Borey
Yeah, man. I mean when you look at the ingredients of fast food now it's got it. You can't pronounce half the stuff.
Kel Mitchell
It feels like it's like. What's that Charlton Heston movie? It's like Soylent Grain.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
You know what I mean? Where it's like it's less beef than it is like whatever synthetic proteins.
Langston Kerman
And I think that's where the FDA is able to get away with some of the stuff that they do is like they replace beef tallow because it's expensive. And they can prove that that isn't good for you. You right, like consuming that much fat, to your point, is not actually healthy for you. So they can say this is bad for you, but then the replacement that keeps it tasting the same and keeps their money not changing, not getting more complicated, is a completely made up chemical that covers all those bases. It's still bad for you, but it's made up so you can't prove it's bad for you. The same way that we know know for a fact. Beef tallow is.
David Borey
This is deep. Maybe a tallow movie, man. Like, play a rap song real slow.
Langston Kerman
Jordan Peele.
Kel Mitchell
It should be like science fiction, like a parable of the tallow, like an Octavia Butler book.
Langston Kerman
It's just some dudes in the kitchen cooking up some grease.
David Borey
It's dark in Costco and the car squeaking.
Langston Kerman
Don't say tallow five times in the grease now. Tallow man. Gonna come sticky pajamas.
David Borey
Tallow man. Tallow man.
Ryan Seacrest
I ain't scared of tallow man.
Kel Mitchell
Man. Jordan Peele, if you're watching.
David Borey
Yeah, that's it right there.
Kel Mitchell
That's the new one? Yeah, that's the new one.
Langston Kerman
Come on.
Kel Mitchell
Call Keke Palmer. Doo doo doo Meat lotion. That's a different type of film. Still.
David Borey
We're open.
Langston Kerman
Listen, there are spinoffs available. We should take maybe one more break.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah, let's take one more.
Langston Kerman
Let's take one more break and then we'll come back with more. Kel Mitchell. More My Mama Told Me.
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Lester Holt
A murder happens, the case goes cold. Then over a hundred years later, we take a second look.
Langston Kerman
Look.
Lester Holt
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And I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, a journalist and historian.
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Lester Holt
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Kel Mitchell
There.
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David Borey
Death.
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David Borey
What is happening?
Kel Mitchell
Oh, from the back I understand that that's confusing.
David Borey
Yeah, for sure.
Kel Mitchell
That's Yakub.
David Borey
Okay?
Kel Mitchell
The scientist that made white people. And then I believe we have a Shemar Morgan.
Langston Kerman
Nation of Islam lore. They believe that an ancient big headed scientist named Yaqub crossbred 50,000 black people on an island until he invented white people. Wow. 6,000 years ago.
Kel Mitchell
I probably could have gone deeper than that.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, you really left it.
David Borey
Oh, Shamar is up there.
Kel Mitchell
Patron Saint Patrick, Saint of the podcast, with or without braids.
David Borey
We had a battle just. This is very random, but he plays cornhole, so I don't know if you.
Kel Mitchell
I did know that. I knew that because of you. I knew that because of you.
David Borey
I was. You know, I play a little cornhole. But we did a full out, like, battle. Like, cornhole championship.
Kel Mitchell
How'd it go?
David Borey
Battle? That was on espn. That's a real.
Kel Mitchell
Is that what you had to do? It's a real thing.
Langston Kerman
It's a real thing.
David Borey
And it's like it was all celebs battling one another. I almost walked and he was. It was. It got crazy here. He's good.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, he's nice.
Kel Mitchell
Is he, like, holding ones?
David Borey
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
Okay.
David Borey
He's nice with it.
Kel Mitchell
Because that's how you gotta do it, right? Is like you gotta be able to slide it in every time. Cornhole is fun, though.
Langston Kerman
Cornhole is great, man.
Kel Mitchell
That's a good outside.
Langston Kerman
I was playing at the beach the.
Kel Mitchell
Other day and I was like, oh, beach, cornhole.
Langston Kerman
It was lit, man.
David Borey
Come on, man.
Kel Mitchell
Man, I like that.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, it was fun.
Kel Mitchell
I usually just bring like, a football to the beach or. You know what I like at the beach is a frisbee.
David Borey
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Oh, whoa.
Kel Mitchell
I don't like that.
Langston Kerman
No. It's just surprising. I like the frisbee. I'm not mad at you.
Kel Mitchell
I'm still from Colorado.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Borey
Yeah, I'll get that.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah. It's like, frisbee. Big Frisbee country.
David Borey
Big Frisbee country.
Kel Mitchell
Big Frisbee country. That's like. You want to talk about our leading lobbyist? It's big Frisbee. They got their hand in everybody's pocket, the whole front range.
Langston Kerman
That doesn't upset me. I just was surprised.
Kel Mitchell
No. Yeah. I like a Frisbee. Cause when you throw a Frisbee, true, it, like, it feels as good as, like, throwing a tight spiral. It's sore or like, shooting a great shot. Like, it's just that feeling of, like, when it leaves your hands, you're like, damn, that's cool.
David Borey
I know that feeling. You know, recently I showed my youngest daughter how to throw a frisbee.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah.
David Borey
And it kept, like, you know, going to the ground like that. And then right when it hit that air, though, just the little, like, how both of us was like, there it is. It's soaring, baby.
Langston Kerman
Look at it.
David Borey
It's a beautiful moment.
Kel Mitchell
It feels like it's are gonna come down.
David Borey
You just catch it.
Langston Kerman
That's how I know the people who deny science aren't fun. Do you know what I mean? Like, the Frisbee is just science. It's just like cool science where you go, like, you get to fling a thing in the air and it flies. And you ain't even throw it hard enough for it to do all the stuff it does.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
And you should be grateful for that.
David Borey
You should.
Kel Mitchell
I am grateful.
Langston Kerman
There's like a. You know what I mean? It's like, nah, that's awesome. I know it's complicated. I know all of science ain't real, but come on, don't deny the whole thing.
Kel Mitchell
I don't deny science. I have been thinking lately, and this sounds fucked up. I have been thinking lately. I think as far as science as it pertains to humanity, we know too much. I think we gotta back off a little bit. Like, I was watching a video. Cause I've been trying to clean up my algorithm. I'd like to be a better man. He's watching a little video of a little boy skateboarding with his father.
Langston Kerman
Nice.
Kel Mitchell
And he's skateboarding with his father. And he's like, I love you, daddy. I love shredding with you, daddy. And they're both skateboarding. He's like, I love shredding with you, daddy. And the dad's like, I love shredding with you, son. And it's this beautiful moment. And then one of the comments, this woman was like, that little boy is so happy because the dopamine and the serotonin hit him. And he decided to say that. And it's like, what? Stop being a psycho. Let this little boy shred with his dad.
Langston Kerman
That's crazy.
Kel Mitchell
Let him shred with his dad.
David Borey
Dad.
Kel Mitchell
What the fuck are we talking. Who gives it. Who cares?
Langston Kerman
There's no. You don't have to explain it.
Kel Mitchell
You don't have to. Oh, you don't have to break it down. Because then life. And that's my issue with science.
Langston Kerman
All right?
Kel Mitchell
It's not for everybody to have all the time.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kel Mitchell
It's like we need people focusing on science. Everybody doesn't have to have a reason that everything does everything.
Langston Kerman
But I. I would argue that's also maybe the. The issue of too much access to each other. Other. Because that person would have never been able to say that to you.
Kel Mitchell
That's true.
Langston Kerman
50 years ago.
Kel Mitchell
And she didn't Say it to me, right?
Langston Kerman
But she presented it to the world in a way where that dad may eventually see that, like, this person is undermining his relationship with his son via, like, the chemicals that fire in your brain.
Kel Mitchell
But I don't even think she meant to do it. Is undermining. I think she just was, like, truly trying to be nice and good, but it's just like. It don't gotta be like, kids, enjoy the moment. All this stuff is so complicated anyways. It's complicated to fall in love. It's complicated to be a good father. It's complicated to be all these things. Then when you put all these other things on top of it now, it becomes this feat that looks impossible. And you get a younger generation, people who aren't trying to have families or nothing, because it seems so. There's so many reasons for it to go wrong, because, you know, the science of trauma and all these things, you know what I mean?
Langston Kerman
You detach from the very essence of what it means to be a human.
Kel Mitchell
Because you've overthought the entire. And you know so much, you get paralysis of analysis. Then you don't do nothing, because why not be apathetic towards the world? Why not be a nihilist if you know what's going on?
David Borey
Ignore the negative comments.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah, man, just ignore it. We're talking to you. My mama told me. Instagram.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, you guys are talking real mean to us. You're a.
Kel Mitchell
You know what? I don't even care if it was AJ's locks. How about that?
David Borey
Uh. Oh. Oh, yeah.
Langston Kerman
We. We got into some trouble because we. We. I. I'll take ownership.
David Borey
Oh, 106 and. Is that what we're talking about?
Kel Mitchell
Okay, you already do that.
Langston Kerman
I was gonna say I repeated a claim. Okay. That turns out was not fully true.
David Borey
Okay.
Langston Kerman
That AJ's locks were a wig the entire time.
David Borey
Wow.
Langston Kerman
Somebody. I. I was tricked on the Internet. I was led to believe that that was a true thing, and it turns out it is not true. He was not the entire time. That said, the way that people are speaking to us about this issue makes me want to double down more than I've ever wanted to double down on anything. Now, everywhere I go, I'm going to repeat this conspiracy theory because I want the violence to somehow end up back in their lap.
David Borey
Now, here's the thing. I saw this clip.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Borey
Because I worked with aj. We did a pilot together that never came out, but it was great. It was great, great. And he was like, you know, the leading guy in and everything. It was cool. But yeah, And I was. It had me second guessing. I'm like, well, now, wait a minute.
Langston Kerman
What? You spent time with this man?
David Borey
It was like, but that's his hair. That's his hair. But when I saw that, I was like, no way.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
And that's all we wanted.
David Borey
That is crazy.
Kel Mitchell
That's all we wanted.
David Borey
It would be crazy.
Langston Kerman
I think we just wanted to get to the joke on the other half of it. That's it. And they are so.
Kel Mitchell
I got 105th apart with some of my best work on laughed.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, I really laughed hard.
Kel Mitchell
No, they don't. They. You know what?
David Borey
That's not right.
Kel Mitchell
You know what black people love saying on the Internet? Loud and wrong. Oh, yeah.
David Borey
Loud and wrong is so funny. On a podcast. You just. Loud and wrong.
Kel Mitchell
They need to take the mics away. This why nobody needs a podcast.
Langston Kerman
It's like, come on, man.
David Borey
We was having fun. You.
Kel Mitchell
I can't laugh with my friends. I can't laugh with my friends.
Langston Kerman
Silly dude, dog, you trippin.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah, man. Cause we're also not one of those podcasts who's like, grind time. 10 Ways to Make a billion dollars. We're just having fun, man.
Langston Kerman
Hey, listen, if nothing else, when you deal with us, we wrong, but we're also keeping you broke, so.
Kel Mitchell
So I will never tell you how to make any money over here.
Langston Kerman
In fact, we are helping you in quite the opposite direction.
Kel Mitchell
And quite frankly, I don't know how I did it, and I don't have a lot. I'm lucky I got what I got.
Langston Kerman
You think we'd be doing this if we knew how to make money?
Kel Mitchell
Come on.
Langston Kerman
No, no, no.
Kel Mitchell
I'd be making a coin Yakub coin.
Langston Kerman
Which apparently already exists.
Kel Mitchell
Oh, damn. That's right. Yeah, I'm trying to, like, look around and find something else. Nah, just go, man.
Langston Kerman
Leave that alone.
Kel Mitchell
Oh, boy.
Langston Kerman
Don't go up there. Anyway, Kel. Kel, Mitchell's here. We're still talking about the possibility that tallow grease is the remedy. But more importantly, right now, we'd love to do a voicemail. I think one. Let's do it. Let's do it again. We told you, Kel, do not listen to these voicemails ahead of time. So we have no idea what this person is going to say.
David Borey
You don't know this one.
Kel Mitchell
This is what they want to say to us.
Langston Kerman
Wow. This one is. Is themed around black aunties, I can tell you that. Okay, okay.
Kel Mitchell
And.
Langston Kerman
And the rest of it, they'll explain to you themselves.
Caller
Okay, so the voicemail. No wonder why people coming on here calling y' all little freaky. What? Anyways, pause.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah, they've taken to calling us little freakies.
David Borey
We don't listen to the freakies. Okay.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. Neither of us are pumped about it, but apparently when we left the voice or made the voicemail message and I don't recall what it sounds like, I.
Kel Mitchell
Remember thinking it was funny. Yeah.
Langston Kerman
And apparently we're being erotic.
Kel Mitchell
Oh, that's what they said.
Langston Kerman
They keep implying that we're being erotic in the message. I have no memory of that. You have no memory of that? But the implications.
Kel Mitchell
And I'm not gonna call to find out this kind of guy. Leave it dead.
David Borey
What did y' all say?
Kel Mitchell
I don't know.
Langston Kerman
I thought we just said you would.
Kel Mitchell
Dial 1-900-LIL MOMS and find out that's.
Langston Kerman
Not even the number.
Kel Mitchell
1-800-Lil MOMS.
Langston Kerman
That's not it either.
Kel Mitchell
Well, nigga, help me out.
Langston Kerman
Eight poor, poor little moms. My God. Do you even work here, freak show?
Kel Mitchell
Yeah, a little bit.
Langston Kerman
Anyway, little freakies is what they call us. And it's a real problem.
Caller
I'm so thrown by that. My conspiracy is that these Facebook aunties and Instagram aunties that just have all of this wrong ass information, it's out to tear the black community apart. Because why did I get into it with my own mother? About 17 people going missing after going on to an indeed job interview. And it's like 16 year olds, Mom. No, but no 16 year old is going on. Indeed. Look for a job.
Kel Mitchell
That's a good point.
Langston Kerman
That is a good point. There's more to this, but maybe we should reflect.
Kel Mitchell
I think you're mad that old people are bad at the Internet. And for that I also am upset about that.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, they are.
Kel Mitchell
They get tricked. And I get tricked a lot because I'm older.
David Borey
Dude.
Kel Mitchell
But it's like the older you get, the decades that go up, it's exponentially.
David Borey
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
By the time you're 70 years old, they're so scared of what's going on in the world because they're like, I heard 16 year olds are going on indeed meetups or whatever and they're trying to talk to their friends on LinkedIn.
Langston Kerman
No, they had a job interview and they all got kidnapped because. But 16 year olds is the claim. 17 of them all at once. And she's repeating this and she's arguing with her mother about it, which.
Kel Mitchell
And that would be annoying to talk. That would be an irritating conversation to have.
Langston Kerman
100%.
Kel Mitchell
Like, I've had conversations with my mom where I'm like, mommy, that's not, that's not real.
Langston Kerman
I've never, I, I've never told this before. The last real job I had, I was teaching. I was doing after school programming at a place in Red Hook in New York where like the whole staff's job was to like, work with people, kids of that community that would come in after school program and hang out there. And then, you know, we were servicing the community, right? And there was this lady whose name I won't use, but this lady who was like an older lady at the job and was like kind of the old auntie ass lady that worked there. And, and one day she got a.
Kel Mitchell
Phone call, like a Brenda.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, you close, you getting there. You ain't that far. She gets a phone call that is 100% a spam call. I can hear it in the way that she's talking to them that she is on a spam call in the office, fully getting tricked. Do you understand? Like, actively getting tricked. And, and it was so exhausting in my mind to imagine the conversation I would have had to have to get her off that call that I just let it rise. Yo, I was just like, you gotta figure this out.
David Borey
Don't let it rise. Like, I can't get it. I mean, it's just gonna be so.
Langston Kerman
Hard to get her off this phone.
Kel Mitchell
What was the nature of the schedule scam?
Langston Kerman
Yeah, it was back when they did the IRS joint. Oh, that's not as common anymore, but it was like an era where that IRS one was doing numbers. This was like 20, probably like 15. The IRS phone call where they're like, hey, you're in big trouble. Yeah, you didn't pay your taxes type joint that was killing people.
David Borey
Like, let me give us your address and your name.
Langston Kerman
And she was, she was running it down.
Kel Mitchell
Oh, man, she was yelling at them.
Langston Kerman
This could not be Ms. Brenda. No, you could not be talking about me because I did this and this and this. And I could send you the forms right now, like fully, like in it. And I was like, I can't even help you, baby.
David Borey
Those links, you know, you got to tell the elders. Don't, don't click on every link with the text messages. They're doing it all the time now.
Kel Mitchell
AI got, I get, I see some in my. Where I'm like, is that AI? So it's like, you know, it's got a other people fucked up worse. But to all that, I agree with her.
Langston Kerman
No it's terrifying. Let's knock this thing out.
Caller
No news source, no reputable links. Nobody reporting this. But because she saw a video on Instagram, now she's texting me, like, oh, be cautious. Be careful. And I had to tell her, like, this is not real. This is fake. These people are playing with y' all. You have to do your research. You cannot see something on Instagram and just be like, oh, yeah, this is the case. It's tearing families apart. Because now my mama mad at me because I told her she's wrong.
Kel Mitchell
Pause.
David Borey
She's wrong.
Kel Mitchell
Pause.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, I got you.
Kel Mitchell
I think your mama's mad because you don't have a job. I think she just wants you to go on some interview.
Langston Kerman
She's like, look, I'll make something up. Whatever's gonna get you out the house. Please, Lord. She's still here. You know they kidnapping boys. You know they getting boys. Go on, get out of here.
David Borey
Get out of here.
Langston Kerman
Please.
Kel Mitchell
But, I mean, I'm with her. I am with.
Langston Kerman
She's not wrong. It's unfortunate that the aunties are getting tricked and subsequently they're tricking us.
David Borey
I think they did a whole movie on it. Beekeeper. You remember that?
Kel Mitchell
I didn't watch it. You didn't watch that with Jason Statham?
David Borey
Just Jason Statham? Yeah. Almost messed his name up. I party with him one time. He's really cool, dude. Yeah. We were at the same club, and it was just like. And they were like, it's Jason over there. And then my table and his table, and then it was. Everybody was hanging out.
Kel Mitchell
It was cool.
David Borey
It was cool to hang, you know? Like, he was cool. I dapped him up. What's up, man?
Kel Mitchell
I never imagined that man dancing. Oh, yeah.
David Borey
Yeah. You dance? Yeah, you know, I dance.
Kel Mitchell
I don't imagine British people dancing ever, actually, to be honest.
Langston Kerman
That's true.
Kel Mitchell
In my head. I never think about them.
Langston Kerman
I know it's a certain type of British people I don't think dance.
David Borey
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
I really don't think about, like, the I. Wooshi.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
Like, those ones, I don't think. I think the black ones dancing because they have Caribbean influence. I don't think of, like, counting housing council because you don't see them dance. Right.
Langston Kerman
I think there's a type of British that I think does that.
Kel Mitchell
But that's not. But. But not like. But that.
Langston Kerman
But not the ones you're talking about.
Kel Mitchell
No. And even that one is just, like, rhythm, rhythm, rhythm, rhythm, rhythm. And they're doing, like, the same thing over and over. Again. But I don't think of. I just don't think about British people dancing.
Langston Kerman
No, I don't think it. It's like a rich history.
David Borey
They come to emails. They come.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, our six British fans are really going to eat us alive.
Kel Mitchell
Do you guys.
David Borey
Felicia Rashad was an auntie in that movie. She was the. The auntie that got, you know.
Kel Mitchell
Oh, no. Got Duke. Wow. And then the beekeeper had to settle the score.
David Borey
Yeah. It's a wild movie.
Kel Mitchell
I could have wrote it. I get it. That was a good movie.
Langston Kerman
You could have wrote it.
David Borey
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
David's Dave is aspiring to be able to write a hugely successful white film.
Kel Mitchell
But they don't know that I wrote it.
David Borey
Okay. So you're gonna go, like, under a different name and all this stuff like that.
Kel Mitchell
It really hasn't fleshed out. Cause we just talked about it 20 minutes ago, but.
Langston Kerman
Oh, yeah.
David Borey
Okay.
Langston Kerman
I think he's still figuring out the logistics, but his hope is that by sheer force of will, he can create his own version of Yellowstone, where it is never clear to them that a black man wrote that piece.
Kel Mitchell
Which to me, as an artist, is maybe the greatest satirical work I could ever be involved in. Slash get rich on.
David Borey
Come on now. Do you do. After you win all your awards and it's profitable and it's an amazing movie, then you will come out.
Kel Mitchell
Hey, yeah. Because here's the thing.
Langston Kerman
If you do it just like that.
David Borey
Hey, y' all didn't know. Guess what?
Kel Mitchell
Because here's the thing about me. It's a low bar to make me go away forever. It's really like a. Whatever, man.
David Borey
Man.
Kel Mitchell
Dude, this is treacherous. Anyways, man, you know, give me fifteen.
David Borey
Hundred dollars, I'll be up to it.
Kel Mitchell
Give me some money I don't have to pay taxes on. I get out of here, man. I get out of your head, you ain't got to worry about David no more.
David Borey
That sound like a good movie. Just following you. Yeah, that's the movie.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah, yeah. That like 20 years from now they make.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. Oh, it could be like boyhood, where they. They. We track you from now all the way until the time that you finally complete the piece.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Langston Kerman
And life has changed. You have changed. But ultimately the piece is complete and you're ready to present it to the world.
Kel Mitchell
I like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Langston Kerman
Wow.
David Borey
Wow.
Langston Kerman
Should we finish this voice?
David Borey
Oh, it's still going.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, she talking.
Caller
We gotta do better in our communities. Help our aunties. Tell them what they see on Facebook. They have to double, triple Check. Or we just gonna be out here lost.
Langston Kerman
That's it. We will be out here lost.
David Borey
Man, she ended on a good. Out here lost. Come on, y' all.
Langston Kerman
I thought she said raw, which would have been a beautiful.
David Borey
Out here raw.
Langston Kerman
Full circle to the tallow grief.
Kel Mitchell
I apprec. Cause she really meant that. I like it when it's like that came from a really good point.
David Borey
She cares about her family.
Langston Kerman
She wants her mom to do better. She wants her aunties, both literal and sort of logically the spiritual aunties, to do better.
Kel Mitchell
That being said, it's not going to work at all.
Langston Kerman
They like Facebook.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah. I think it's like, I really. With my man Langston Kerman. Maybe we cap that voting age.
Langston Kerman
Yep.
Kel Mitchell
You just can't contribute no more.
Langston Kerman
Keep arguing it. Nobody's ready to take it seriously. I imagine you're going to push back against this, and that's your right if you feel so. But I really think we got to cut off the voting age. I think we're letting people vote way past their prime, way past even their ability to make reasonable choices. And I'm willing to debate what it should be, but for me, 55, yo.
Kel Mitchell
I think that's a little low. I do think he's low.
David Borey
That's low.
Kel Mitchell
I think 65 or what's retirement? 62.
Langston Kerman
I think this retirement age keeps changing.
Kel Mitchell
That's true. They keep moving the goalpost.
Langston Kerman
Now, a lot of people aren't being promised retirement until 70. That's a very different goalpost. And I think some of the reason that that is happening is because we're allowing older people to make choices for younger people.
Kel Mitchell
It's also younger people not voting.
Langston Kerman
Maybe they're not voting because they're feeling like that vote doesn't count against this massive machine that's built itself to benefit mostly the olds.
Kel Mitchell
I think so. But I think there is a level of, like, young people gotta come out and vote.
Langston Kerman
I can't change that. Diddy, try. Vote or die. He said it didn't work.
Kel Mitchell
Can you believe that guy couldn't get people to vote?
Langston Kerman
He screamed it. He ran a marathon.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah. He had all those T shirts, all those baseball T shirts.
Langston Kerman
Had a mohawk at one point.
Kel Mitchell
Man. Did you ever think about getting in there?
David Borey
The Mohawk?
Kel Mitchell
The Mohawk, yeah. No.
Langston Kerman
No.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah. It's not for me.
David Borey
You doing a mohawk?
Kel Mitchell
Yes. Or the faux hawk. I need to be, like, lined up.
David Borey
I had a fohawk.
Kel Mitchell
You had the head for it.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Borey
Okay.
Kel Mitchell
My head exposes my weaknesses.
David Borey
No, you could do. You could Do a frohawk.
Kel Mitchell
I don't think you would.
Langston Kerman
Look at the mo.
David Borey
Turn sideways. Mr. T's right next to you with a mohawk. Look at that. Y' all got the same head.
Kel Mitchell
Oh, man, it could work. I think they mine with.
David Borey
It could work.
Kel Mitchell
I think if I had a frohawk, I look like I make beats for aspiring teen rappers.
Langston Kerman
It's a vibe.
Kel Mitchell
You know what I'm saying?
Langston Kerman
It's a vibe.
Kel Mitchell
I look like a. I don't think it's like. I don't think. I don't think it vibes with what I got.
David Borey
The way you cut the beard, you can do it.
Langston Kerman
No, I will say, and to your credit, I do think you could pull it off much in the way that Mr. T can. I will also say that I will stop doing this podcast that day.
Kel Mitchell
Am I just coming? I don't say nothing.
David Borey
You gotta do it now. You gotta do it.
Langston Kerman
I'm happy for you. I'm done doing business with you. We both get out clean, as it were. But no, we can't continue forward if that's the hairstyle.
Kel Mitchell
No, we're not. A very adventurous hair style podcast.
Langston Kerman
No. I do most of the adventuring, and I always bail on it.
Kel Mitchell
I feel like your adventuring is really just making it long.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
I honestly think between the two of us, us, your nose ring is the most adventurous thing we have going on, physically.
David Borey
Nose ring?
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Kel Mitchell
That's really. As far as.
Langston Kerman
Teeny tiny one.
David Borey
Yeah. I didn't even know when he said it. I was looking at you. I'm like, where's.
Langston Kerman
Don't notice it.
David Borey
Thought that was a little speck of L. That's all I.
Kel Mitchell
Y' all could.
David Borey
Try it now, you know, now they have the. You know what I'm saying? You little fake mohawk. You just try it out. Walk in here.
Langston Kerman
The man piece.
David Borey
The man piece, dude. Yeah, yeah.
Kel Mitchell
I got a system at this point.
Langston Kerman
You got a barber you trust.
Kel Mitchell
I've been kind of having this haircut beard combination for damn near 20 years. Yeah, Olivia, it looks like that said rap.
David Borey
I saw y' all got people behind the walls here. What is going.
Langston Kerman
Oh, we gotta go.
Kel Mitchell
Oh, I didn't see the W. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Langston Kerman
Go ahead. Rep something.
Kel Mitchell
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Kel, this has been amazing, man. It's fun people where they can find you. What cool stuff you got going on, man?
David Borey
A lot of cool things. Amkel mitchell on Instagram Kelmitchell.com. you know, you can follow me. Yeah, man, I got some really fun stuff coming out this year that I'm super excited about. I got some thrillers that I'm in. I have the lead role in, and I'm just excited, man. Some. A lot of good stuff. You can get my books. I'm also an author as well.
Langston Kerman
Whoa. Let's go.
David Borey
Blessed Mode Prank day. Everywhere books are sold. You can get those. Prank day is the children's book, and then Blessed Mode is the devotional book. I do music, you know, all these different things, man. You know, actor, producer, writer, youth pastor. All those things, man.
Kel Mitchell
Beautiful.
David Borey
Everything, man.
Kel Mitchell
Beautiful.
David Borey
Tala extraordinaire.
Langston Kerman
Go ahead, go ahead. Go follow Kel.
David Borey
Go get.
Langston Kerman
Go get all the stuff. And not that meat lotion T shirt, because you get that over here. My mama told me.
David Borey
Mama love you too, man. Because it's Southside when you dub.
Langston Kerman
I don't know if you can mention.
David Borey
Your older podcast, but yeah, that podcast.
Kel Mitchell
That's.
David Borey
They love that.
Langston Kerman
The. The. The short lived follow up show we had for south side. You were so generous to come hang out with us.
David Borey
Yeah, Jerry. The whole Jerry debacle that we had about my dad battling with our neighbor.
Langston Kerman
That's right. He went off on Jerry Jerry.
David Borey
Now it's become a thing in the neighborhood. It's just very funny. I love that, man.
Kel Mitchell
That's exciting. I missed the whole thing.
Langston Kerman
I forgot about. I forgot about my boy Jerry.
David Borey
Add it to this.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Borey
Put it at the end.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, we tack it on. Bory, what you got?
Kel Mitchell
I do one thing. Stand up comedy. Littlefield, Brooklyn, New York, June 15th. Be there. Oh, also by my special Birth of a nation. Patreon.com davidbory There's a ton of free videos and stuff like that. And, you know, like, subscribe. Call the number, the correct number to talk to us.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, call that number. 8.
Kel Mitchell
4.
David Borey
4.
Langston Kerman
There you go.
Kel Mitchell
Lil moms.
Langston Kerman
Lil moms. You can call us there. You can email us@mymamatoldmegmail.com and you can follow me at Langston Kerman. You can watch my special. It's on Netflix. It's called bad poetry country. And more importantly, you can like, you can subscribe. You can rate review, you can follow the Instagram, the tick tock, the YouTube. You can buy the merch and you can buy. We're not gonna let Joe Biden and Kamala Harris cut America's meat.
Kel Mitchell
That's dead on.
David Borey
That.
Kel Mitchell
That's dead on.
Langston Kerman
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Podcast Summary: "The Miracle of Tallow Grease (with Kel Mitchell)"
Podcast Information:
The episode opens with the hosts, Langston Kerman and David Borey, engaging in their signature blend of humor and conspiracy theory exploration. They introduce the theme of the episode, focusing on a home remedy involving tallow grease, a traditional substance derived from animal fat.
Notable Quote:
Langston Kerman [04:22]: "This is something that's been weighing on my heart heavy lately... I think if your children come out uglier than you, it's because you got a bad spirit."
This humorous yet provocative statement sets the tone for their deep dive into unconventional remedies and the beliefs surrounding them.
Kel Mitchell, a guest known for his work in comedy and acting, joins the hosts to discuss the central topic: tallow grease as a healing agent. The conversation revolves around how this traditional remedy was used in their families and its purported benefits.
Notable Quotes:
Kel Mitchell [03:02]: "Welcome, little mamas and gentiles alike, to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told."
David Borey [12:24]: "I used to get bronchitis... and stuff like that. And stuff like that... It was like a meat Vicks."
Kel shares personal anecdotes about using tallow grease to alleviate ailments like bronchitis, comparing it to modern remedies such as Vicks VapoRub.
The hosts delve into the specifics of how tallow grease is prepared and applied. They discuss its application as a topical treatment for colds and flu, emphasizing its greasy texture and the strong, comforting aroma reminiscent of a home-cooked meal.
Notable Quotes:
David Borey [08:23]: "I will tell you. So it's like fat from meat?"
Kel Mitchell [09:22]: "Do you mix meats, or are different meats for different ailments?"
David Borey [12:24]: "A sprained wrist? Like rubbing it on for a sprained wrist. We never did that."
These exchanges highlight the practical aspects of using tallow grease and its limitations, such as not being suitable for all types of ailments.
The discussion shifts to how tallow grease is perceived and marketed today, especially its resurgence in health and wellness circles. The hosts critique the commercialization of traditional remedies and how they are repackaged for modern consumers.
Notable Quotes:
Langston Kerman [22:51]: "I like that this is where you broke. Cause you were real confident before."
Kel Mitchell [25:11]: "Wagyu beef tallow... some of them also make it look like they're keeping them in almost like lotion jars."
The conversation critiques the packaging and marketing strategies that target affluent, predominantly white demographics, questioning the authenticity and intentions behind such trends.
Langston provides a historical perspective on tallow grease, explaining how its usage declined with the rise of processed foods and the shift towards vegetable oils in the fast-food industry during the 1990s.
Notable Quotes:
Langston Kerman [30:10]: "At one point, I guess beef tallow was banned. They switched to vegetable oils in the 90s..."
David Borey [32:09]: "When you look at the ingredients of fast food now, it's got it. You can't pronounce half the stuff."
This segment underscores the broader implications of industrial food policies and their impact on traditional practices.
The hosts explore the notion that the decline of tallow grease was not merely a health-driven decision but part of a larger conspiracy to suppress natural remedies favored by Black communities.
Notable Quotes:
Langston Kerman [30:16]: "Processed beef tallow in your diet... at some point, they tell us that this was poison."
David Borey [33:11]: "The same way that we know it."
They posit that economic interests and regulatory bodies may have influenced public perception to favor synthetic alternatives over natural remedies.
The episode incorporates audience voicemails, where listeners share their own experiences and theories related to misinformation and digital scams targeting older generations.
Notable Quotes:
Caller [47:18]: "My conspiracy is that these Facebook aunties and Instagram aunties... it's out to tear the black community apart."
Langston Kerman [49:57]: "They keep implying that we're being erotic in the message."
These segments highlight the challenges of combating misinformation and its effects on family dynamics within the Black community.
Throughout the episode, the hosts intersperse humorous banter and side stories, such as discussions about hairstyle trends, personal anecdotes involving celebrities like Jason Statham, and playful arguments about frisbee and cornhole.
Notable Quotes:
Kel Mitchell [40:55]: "I don't deny science. I was watching a little video of a little boy skateboarding with his father... and she decided to say that."
Langston Kerman [43:25]: "It didn't have to be like, kids, enjoy the moment. All this stuff is so complicated anyway."
These lighter moments provide a balance to the more serious discussions, keeping the tone engaging and relatable.
As the episode draws to a close, the hosts reflect on the importance of preserving cultural remedies and the role of community in combating misinformation. They encourage listeners to research and trust in traditional practices while acknowledging the complexities introduced by modern society.
Notable Quotes:
Langston Kerman [60:32]: "It's a vibe. You know what I'm saying? It's a vibe."
Kel Mitchell [61:19]: "It's a vibe."
David Borey [62:58]: "Everything, man. Actor, producer, writer, youth pastor. All those things, man."
The hosts wrap up by promoting their personal projects and encouraging listener engagement through social media and upcoming events.
Key Takeaways:
Final Thoughts: "The Miracle of Tallow Grease" episode of My Momma Told Me offers a compelling mix of cultural exploration, conspiracy theory analysis, and humor. By blending personal stories with broader societal critiques, the hosts provide listeners with both entertainment and food for thought regarding traditional remedies and their place in modern health practices.
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