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Miles Gray
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Langston Kerman
I think we know why Michelle Obama and George Bush hang out. And it ain't because.
They were handing.
David Bori
Out Girl Scout cookies together if they were running trains.
Langston Kerman
God, I hope so.
Miles Gray
You know what it is? Tg Tris gang, over here.
David Bori
Yo. What is the soundtrack to a Michelle Obama George Bush train?
Langston Kerman
I will say.
It'S just a DJ who can play both.
David Bori
You know what I mean?
Miles Gray
It's not. Then I.
Langston Kerman
It's. Oh, it's that Nelly song that he did with that country. What was the.
David Bori
Oh, Accidental Races.
Langston Kerman
No, that's. That's LL Cool J did Accidental Races.
Miles Gray
Oh. Oh.
David Bori
All in my head.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, it's that.
Miles Gray
Yeah. Over and over. Tim McGraw, I think that was.
David Bori
That's okay.
Langston Kerman
That's. Yeah, there it is. Tim McGraw.
David Bori
I might think about that. I might play it on my bike later.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, that's fair. There's no reason. Look, he made a mistake, but there's no reason we shouldn't enjoy the mistake.
David Bori
Exactly.
The government growing babies, microchips in your anus. All koala bears are racist.
The ozone layer owes me money. Marshes invented turkey stuff. Y' all can't tell me nothing.
And I'm so.
Anxious.
Meet me at 11:30 when you're talking dirty.
Langston Kerman
Come on.
David Bori
Welcome back to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me.
Langston Kerman
The podcast, where we dive deep, deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories, and we finally.
David Bori
Work to prove what the fuck happened to that little monkey. Kodak Black haunted hat on his shoulder for about two weeks. Where did it go? Ritual sacrifice? Some type of a Haitian monkey stew? You have questions, and we have answers. I'm David Bore.
Langston Kerman
Whoa. I'm Langston Kerman, and I. I forgot about that monkey. I'll be honest.
David Bori
Everybody did. Everybody did. Except for cps.
Langston Kerman
There are times, and. And I do think I. I often find myself sort of rolling my eyes at, like, PETA ads that, like, make it so that, like, you can't. You can't do a goddamn thing near an animal without it being like, this. This horrible attack on the species. And it's like, relax, y'. All. I get it. We probably should chill on a lot of shit. But then you see what Kodak Black is doing with a monkey, and you're like, nah, Peter's right. That is.
David Bori
I don't know if matching clothes with the monkey is the worst life for that monkey, though.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, but, you know, he didn't just match clothes with that monkey.
David Bori
You know, I Bet he let him ride the. I let him. Bet he let him drive the Phantom.
Langston Kerman
I. I think he was driving Phantoms. I think he was smoking weird, like, fucking wet.
He was smoking. Fucking dipped marijuana. You know what I mean? Just fucking bad stuff. That monkey.
David Bori
You know it's a bad drug when it's just described as a texture.
You're like, oh, he's got that crunchy. You're like, yep, that's the problem.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, he don't want that. He's not going to give that to a spider monkey that don't know what the fuck is going on.
David Bori
You know, he fetted Jolly Ranchers for sure.
Langston Kerman
That's what I'm saying. He was doing crazy shit with that. That monkey.
At the very. At the very least, that monkey had more Popeyes than any monkey has ever had.
David Bori
That's true.
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Langston Kerman
That's true.
David Bori
That's. You're right.
Miles Gray
You're right.
Langston Kerman
That's not right.
David Bori
You're right. The monkey. The monkey ate better than me some days.
Langston Kerman
Our guest today, he's phenomenal. He's. He's a returning guest. We. We've had him on before. You know him. You know him from his own podcast. You know him from all kinds of hilarious shit, interesting shit. I won't limit you to hilarious shit. You do fascinating work out in the world, I would say.
Miles Gray
I guess that's right.
Langston Kerman
He's. He's a fan favorite, a personal favorite. Give it up for Miles Gray every day.
Miles Gray
Thank you so much for having me. I'm fucking here. Glad to be talking conspiracy shit with you guys today, because when the producer reached out and was asking like, you got something? I was like, let me think off the top of my head first. I was like, does. Does that time when everyone thought Lil Flip had AIDS count in the conspiracy.
Langston Kerman
Theory back in 2006?
David Bori
Let me just jump in here. Yes, it does.
Langston Kerman
It very much does.
Miles Gray
But then I was like, is that too black to be like, yo, remember when everybody was like, lil Flip got aids, buddy.
Langston Kerman
We. We did an episode about Lil Bow Wow being molested by his driver. Nothing is.
Miles Gray
Yeah, right.
Langston Kerman
Nothing is too black or off limits for this sick, sick podcast.
Miles Gray
Yeah. Yeah. But I'm glad we landed on something that definitely really intersected with my. My life, my upbringing in an intense way. So, yeah.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Miles Gray
Anyways, good to be here.
Langston Kerman
I'm really glad you're here, and I think I speak for both of us. We were both. We both screamed with joy at the.
As soon as it was sent over, we Were like, yes. This is fucking.
David Bori
This is tight.
Langston Kerman
Hell, yeah.
Miles Gray
Universal. I feel like. Yeah. Everybody maybe has heard about what we're gonna talk about.
Langston Kerman
I don't know, Bori, I don't wanna jump the gun here, but had you heard about this before? It had.
David Bori
Before this, I had heard about it retroactively. So at the time, I did not hear about it because I.
Sexually awoken. At the time, I was still trying to see a titty.
Miles Gray
Okay.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Bori
So I wasn't. I wasn't. This was. This was advanced for me.
Langston Kerman
This would have been. This would have been a bit of a AAU tournament you had no business competing in.
David Bori
And also, if I'm gonna be honest, I was trying to impress you guys. I was trying to feel it. Titty. I don't know why I did that. That was crazy. I was not even looking at.
Langston Kerman
It was beyond your.
David Bori
I was. There was no situation that would have.
Langston Kerman
Show me.
David Bori
No, no, no, no, no.
Not today. Yeah, there's nothing going on.
Langston Kerman
Well, we shouldn't dilly or dally any any further. Miles, your conspiracy. You said, my mama told me.
Rainbow parties are real.
Miles Gray
Come on.
Langston Kerman
Okay.
Miles Gray
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
First. First. And I'll leave it on your shoulders to explain to our sweet listeners, who are good Christians, by the way.
Miles Gray
Yes, yes, yes.
Langston Kerman
I want to remind you, this is a Christian podcast and foremost.
Miles Gray
Absolutely.
David Bori
When he do it.
Langston Kerman
There it is.
Miles Gray
That Christ drop real quick. Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Remind our sweet Christian listeners what a rainbow.
Miles Gray
Yes, yes. So, children of God, gather around because I would love to bless you with the knowledge of the rainbow party. So I'll first talk about the way I heard it. I was probably in 9th or 10th grade, and somebody goes, hey, man, you hear about these rainbow parties?
David Bori
Some dude.
Miles Gray
Yeah. Yeah. It's like, my friend who's also a virgin.
What the fuck is a rainbow?
Langston Kerman
Rubbing his hands together, you're like, why.
Miles Gray
Are you being like that, man? Yeah, like, why are you doing the bird, man, like, rubbing your mitts like that? Hey, man, you heard about these rainbow parties? So I was like, no. What the fuck are you talking about? He's like, so, you know, over at. Over at Grant High School, you know, my cousin goes there, they say they do this thing where all the ladies, they put a different shade of lipstick on. And then all the dudes are at this party, and each person has, like, they. They take turns. Someone gives them a blow job and puts the lipstick on their dick. And then at the end, all the different shades of lipstick that are being worn by the people at the party give you Like a rainbow colored dick. And then that's what a rainbow party is. And I was like, say less. I believe it. Like, why isn't it happening here? Like, I need to believe that this is real.
Langston Kerman
Yes.
David Bori
You had me at all the girls.
Miles Gray
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like in one place.
And they don't care if I have. If my braces aren't off yet. Oh, shit. Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Oh, sweet. Even the ones with low self esteem.
That sounds like my kind of vibe. Vibe.
Miles Gray
Yeah, absolutely.
David Bori
Playboy shout out to all the dudes waiting to get their race braces off for that first.
Miles Gray
Oh, yeah.
David Bori
This summer is about to be on.
Miles Gray
It's over for y' all math tutors. Get these braces off.
So yeah, that was like. The theory was basically an oral sex party where all the ladies wear different shades of lipstick and whoever has the most shades collected on their penis, I guess, wins or whatever. There was never really like an outcome more to be like. And it's like a chromatic mess on your shaft. And that was like enough to. For everybody to be like, yep, we're here, we're here for.
Langston Kerman
And we leave little alcohol wipes at the door so you can get the makeup off.
Miles Gray
It's all. Exactly.
Langston Kerman
It's a very efficient party.
Miles Gray
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Langston Kerman
I admittedly had never heard this until yesterday.
David Bori
Oh, really?
Langston Kerman
I don't think that I was at all aware of rainbow parties, if I'm being completely honest. Until the Scotsun over.
Miles Gray
It's wild because I'm pretty sure like I, I sort of was looking my doing my own research too on it. And it's wild because I'm pretty sure the. The point at which I heard about it predates even like the official introduction of this into like the written, the written word of God.
David Bori
You were early on it.
Miles Gray
Yeah, yeah, it was just like one of those. It was just like one of those things like, you know, Marilyn Manson had a rib removed his own dick or you know what I mean? Or like Lil Kim had to get her pumic her stomach pumped because she was giving so much head. Like it was sort of like in that sort of school of just shit. People would say, but no one had proof for. But because you're ignorant and young and a virgin, you're like, absolutely.
David Bori
I think you mean the general topics for this podcast.
Miles Gray
Yeah, yeah, sorry.
David Bori
All of our regular subject matter.
Miles Gray
Yes, yes, yes. But the stomach pump thing was always like someone. They would map on a different person like at the time, because then they were like Lindsay Lohan.
David Bori
I heard it with local girls a couple One time in high school, they said that this girl who in fact was hugging along the dick, they said that she had had to get her stomach pumped.
Miles Gray
Oh, yeah.
Langston Kerman
I think when you talk to white people, it's a very different person than Lil Kim. I can't remember who their person is.
David Bori
Oh, I wonder who it would be if it was not Lil Kim.
Langston Kerman
It's like Madonna or some shit. Or like some.
David Bori
That's not nearly as fun.
Miles Gray
Yeah, like Nancy Reagan or some shit.
David Bori
Yeah.
Miles Gray
You're like, I wish.
Langston Kerman
Oh, that's right. Justin's right. He said, I think white think it's Rod Stewart.
David Bori
Rod Stewart was sucking dicks.
Langston Kerman
Is the white people version of sucking dicks. Until he had to get his stomach pumped. And I don't even know if Rod Stewart was sucking dicks. I think they were just calling him very, very gay.
Miles Gray
Right. He's like, you seen that hair?
David Bori
Yeah, it's feathered. That's the Maggie May guy, right?
Langston Kerman
Yeah, yeah, I know him from.
David Bori
Yeah, that guy love pussy.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, Yeah, I thought so. But.
Miles Gray
But that's why. That's why. That's why that is so slanderous, you know? Right.
Langston Kerman
Come on.
David Bori
No, him.
Miles Gray
Exactly.
David Bori
Not noted enthusiast Rod Stewart.
Miles Gray
Stewart.
David Bori
He could never.
Miles Gray
You're upending my world right now. But yeah, no, I mean, it's interesting though too because I think whether you, like, you either probably heard it as like a local myth or I think the thing that really mainstreamed it was like once it got on TV and. And then became like this gigantic, like, moral panic especially, I think maybe it might have because I was going to like Christian and Catholic school when I was younger and it feels like that's kind of like the world in which those kinds of like moral sexual panic kind of conspiracy theories like, really take hold.
David Bori
Yeah. Are we. It's just to time it out. Are we saying. Because for me, in my mind, this is like a turn of the century.
Miles Gray
Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
David Bori
I graduated.
2001 time period.
Miles Gray
I graduated high school 2003. Okay. And I would say this is around. I feel like. I don't want to put it all on 9 11, but I feel like it was around 911 that I first started hearing it. Like my sophomore, junior ish year.
Langston Kerman
We were mixed up. The terrorists won.
Miles Gray
This is misdirection. Misdirection.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. They were like, we'll knock down the towers and they'll get us back for that, but they'll never get us back for what we do to their girls.
Miles Gray
To the rainbow part.
David Bori
I also. I mean, now that we're just openly discuss. Here's my question about. It always was, like, so afterwards, you're at a party where all these girls are sucking dick, then you show everybody your dick to prove that it got sucked by all these. That was the reason everybody came to the party.
Langston Kerman
Well, I guess that's a question I have immediately. Is, is the expectation that I show my dick afterwards or is the expectation that I just go home with a cool goodie bag of.
Miles Gray
Of rainbow kit or, like, a rainbow sticker somebody puts on your sweatshirt? Yeah, like, you win, sir.
Langston Kerman
I didn't know I had to, like, verify it with the boys to.
David Bori
Okay, maybe I'm a weirdo. I play team sports.
Miles Gray
I think that's what makes it kind of fall apart, because when you really think about it, too, like, even the idea that it would, like, leave a rainbow, you're like, I'm sorry, what technique is being used during the fellatio that, like, are you just going, like, stamping rings around?
Langston Kerman
I think you mean tie dye.
Miles Gray
Yeah.
Yeah. We're talking Grateful Dead T shirt more than anything. Rainbow.
David Bori
I'm gonna say. I think this is a little racist. Mm.
Langston Kerman
Say more.
David Bori
My dick is probably only gonna reflect maybe the reds.
Langston Kerman
Okay.
David Bori
And you know what I'm saying? It's not gonna look like that. It's gonna look like mud.
Langston Kerman
And a mud party sounds way worse.
David Bori
Way worse.
Miles Gray
Yeah. Yeah.
Langston Kerman
You don't want to go to no mud party.
Miles Gray
Maybe we should start that one. Yeah, that one out there. Like, you all been to a mud.
David Bori
Party or, like, the color. When you mix all the sodas, the graveyard or whatever.
Miles Gray
Oh, yeah.
Langston Kerman
Swamp water.
David Bori
Yeah. It's not gonna look like. It's not gonna look like a rainbow.
Miles Gray
No, no. It'll end up being. I think, at the end of the day, with all of the colors of the spectrum there, it will just. It'll net out to some kind of brownish green. I feel like.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, no, it's gonna be. It's gonna make your penis look pretty.
Miles Gray
But again, that's not the important part, because I think it was just merely the. I think for young, like, men, boys, kids in high school, it was like, the idea that there were so many willing participants in, like, sexual activity was like. Like everything else be damned. You're like, I don't know, man. I'm not gonna show anybody my dick. I don't even shower in front of y'. All.
David Bori
Yeah, Yeah. I was just gonna say, these poor women have to come to the party. Not only do they have to suck 10 eager dicks. They also have to keep putting on their makeup.
Miles Gray
It's a lot of labor involved. It's a lot of labor involved.
David Bori
What do they get from the rainbow party?
Miles Gray
Hey, you know what? And I'm not trying to think that far ahead, David, because I just want to know that there is such a thing. Please don't make me examine it any further, because it starts falling apart. True.
Langston Kerman
I would encourage us not to underestimate the camaraderie you probably built.
By sucking that many of the same dicks with your dearest friends. There's probably a bond that'll never be broken when you share that kind of closeness with the person.
Miles Gray
Absolutely.
David Bori
Almost like a sisterhood of the Traveling Pants.
Miles Gray
Almost like a D Day landing, but a different kind of D. It's the same.
David Bori
I've never experienced it, but the same as dudes who run trains together. I think I love my cousin.
Miles Gray
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Like, no, he's a good dude. And you're like, nah, I don't know.
Miles Gray
I'm just crazy.
David Bori
You guys are doing that anyways.
Miles Gray
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's don't. Don't admit that so openly, man.
Langston Kerman
Seems like maybe you just did a bad thing and now you're bonded for.
David Bori
The wrong reason for your kids. You both have something you don't want to bring up to grandma at Thanksgiving.
Miles Gray
No.
Langston Kerman
I will say that. That when you initiated this conversation about the rainbow parties, while it was my first time hearing it, you also sent over a correlating Reddit thread that featured an Oprah episode.
Miles Gray
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Where Oprah addresses this rumor. And this is a first for our podcast, I would say, because Oprah comes up on this podcast a lot.
Miles Gray
Oh, yeah.
Langston Kerman
Like a lot. A lot of supposed episodes of Oprah where these conspiracies are often born. And this is the first time where the episode actually exists, where we have real evidence of this episode. And what I would love to do is maybe watch that clip together and we can pause and talk shit in between as the whole thing is going.
Miles Gray
Yeah, the whole segment is wild because it's not just. It's like this, I don't know, panic monger woman comes on to be like, is this.
Langston Kerman
Let me.
Miles Gray
Let me go through some phrases and tell me if you've heard of these.
Langston Kerman
No, she gives us. She gives us a lot to work with here. So let's watch it.
Oprah Winfrey
Everybody has another life that your parents.
David Bori
Wait one second. Not, you know, one second before we even get in. Are they also, you guys need to know that it says tossed salad and rainbow Party discussion.
Miles Gray
Yes.
David Bori
That's important to note. Yes.
Miles Gray
No, just watching this whole shit unfold in front of the audience is fucking wild, because I think, like, 2005 or some shit.
Langston Kerman
It also. It is truly. I used to think that these audiences were completely casted and, like, who are these. These women that. That would want this? But then you see their reactions, and they genuinely are hearing about tossing salad for the first time, and they're like.
Miles Gray
Come on, you didn't watch Chris Rock before. You didn't stand up before this. Like, we were up on that already.
Langston Kerman
So crazy to see.
Miles Gray
Yeah. Okay, so here we go. Anyways, onward with the educational video.
Oprah Winfrey
You know, having, you know, sex after school.
Langston Kerman
Right.
Oprah Winfrey
But everybody has another life, you know, the way your friends know you is not the way your parents know you. Right, Correct.
Langston Kerman
Exactly.
David Bori
Yeah.
Miles Gray
Yeah.
Oprah Winfrey
So you say, let's talk about that secret language, Michelle.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Miles Gray
His secret language is so funny.
David Bori
Also, Oprah acts like she's not. I hate that.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, that is crazy.
David Bori
I don't like that at all. Like, you weren't ever a horny teenager. You got to be an adult about that.
Langston Kerman
But more of the. Like, you've had Stedman as a side piece for 40 years. You tell.
David Bori
Possibly a beer. Yeah.
Langston Kerman
You telling me this motherfucker ain't never had to do something weird to you? Come on. To keep the side house going.
Miles Gray
You know what I mean?
David Bori
You don't make him film you and Gail. Sometimes.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Just watch her things.
Miles Gray
I think it's important. Maybe we watch her face as these things are explained to see if she, like, feigns ignorance or, like, surprise. You know what I mean?
David Bori
Very good at.
Miles Gray
Or she's like.
Wait, hold on, Oprah. All right, here we go.
Oprah Winfrey
I didn't know any of this. Yeah. I've gotten a whole new vocabulary. Salad tossing.
Miles Gray
Is this me?
Oprah Winfrey
Cucumbers, lettuce, tomatoes.
Langston Kerman
Okay, so.
Oprah Winfrey
So what is a salad toss? Salad is, get ready, hold on to your underwear for this one.
Miles Gray
Oral.
Langston Kerman
Okay, let's just pause right there.
David Bori
This is the best day of my life.
Langston Kerman
Because she tells us to hold on to our underwear, which isn't a common phrase.
Miles Gray
I'm not familiar with this idiom.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, it certainly has it rings of other phrases that are more. You know what I mean? That are correct, but she goes, hold on. You're going to want to hold on to your underwear for this one. And I thought the audience would laugh at her saying that, but they did. They, in fact, held their underwear.
Miles Gray
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
And everybody tells them what? Sally. Well, I won't Beat it.
David Bori
It's because she knows they're about to burst out of them because they're so excited hearing them talk about Todd salad on NBC.
Langston Kerman
Salad and scrambled eggs.
David Bori
And Oprah is lying. She does the hand. She's fucking lying.
Langston Kerman
She said, I've never. I've never heard of any of these.
Oprah Winfrey
Okay, top salad is. Get ready. Hold on to your underwear for this one. Oral, anal sex. So oral sex to the anus.
David Bori
Okay.
Oprah Winfrey
A rainbow party.
Miles Gray
Okay, so maybe just that one of this woman's show.
Langston Kerman
She looks like the worst day of her life. It looks.
Miles Gray
It looks like. I would believe if, like the reverse angle of this was like Oprah, like ripping a puppy in half, like, with her bare hands.
Langston Kerman
Her.
Miles Gray
Her look of shock and disgust. Like.
David Bori
This white lady. This white lady's like, I came here to try to get a new car. What the is this?
Langston Kerman
When do we reach under our seat?
Miles Gray
Yeah.
David Bori
And is there an anus under there? This is horrible.
Miles Gray
I wanted a Pontiac Sunfire.
David Bori
This is not. This is not what I came for.
Langston Kerman
Oprah, who is this woman.
Please?
David Bori
Why is she making horrible things? Yeah. Why would Kelly Price do this stuff?
Miles Gray
And now. Yeah, now she moves into. I guess the part where the. You know, what we all came to hear is the. The rainbow party.
David Bori
Breakdown.
Miles Gray
Rainbow party for us.
Oprah Winfrey
How salad is. Hi, mom.
David Bori
Okay.
Oprah Winfrey
A rainbow party is an oral sex party. It's a gathering where oral sex is performed. And rainbow comes from all of the girls lips.
David Bori
Lots of gatherings oral sex has performed.
Miles Gray
I don't.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Bori
Oh, you mean it's a high school reunion. It's a barbecue in the park if you're lucky. It's game night if you got too drunk.
Miles Gray
Right.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. I honestly, in high school used to think that parties were trash if oral sex didn't happen.
David Bori
That was why you fucking went. You think I want to dance to Tipsy by j' Quan again.
That's a good song. That was crazy.
Miles Gray
Yeah, I mean, you could do the chicken head, you know, I didn't.
Langston Kerman
I wasn't even always getting it, but I at least wanted to know. It was like part of the experience. It was like, oh, pussy was being. Was being had. This was a good time. This was true.
David Bori
Wow.
Miles Gray
That was always the promise you were hoping for. It's like. And it'll be women that are down.
David Bori
Yeah. I got my best Rocawear on.
Miles Gray
Yeah, exactly. I got a new velour jumpsuit and I got a crispy new Jordan headband.
Langston Kerman
Same limited rhino I have on my shirt matches the one on My pants.
Miles Gray
Exactly. Exactly. Oh, yes, you're right. These are Academics jeans.
David Bori
Thank you so much. I'm somewhat of a scholar.
Miles Gray
You can tell by the different leather Alphabet patches on my leg.
David Bori
Also, the burn Talib Kweli CD in my compact. Discipline.
Miles Gray
Right, Right. It's like, how come. How come there's a voice that says promo at the beginning of the blast? It's like, don't worry about it, all right?
Langston Kerman
Just.
Miles Gray
Just enjoy it. This is a. This. This. Go hard.
David Bori
Yeah, it's just exclusive.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, baby girl. I downloaded it on Bear Share, so it's pretty legit.
Miles Gray
Exactly. Oh, you didn't know about that. Oh, you still on kaza?
Langston Kerman
You'll catch up one day, sweetheart. Now, what about that mouth?
Miles Gray
Now, what that rainbow do?
David Bori
I'm trying to get.
Miles Gray
I'm trying to catch them all, if you know what I mean. You're a Pokemon fan, right? Okay.
David Bori
I can go anywhere. Suck my dick.
Miles Gray
All right, you want to continue with this? Here we go.
Oprah Winfrey
Rainbow comes from all of the girls put on lipstick, and each one puts her mouth around the penis of the gentleman or gentlemen who are there to receive favors and makes a mark in a different.
Miles Gray
This woman looked like she's looking at the 2008 election results coming in.
David Bori
Also.
Miles Gray
Oh, hell no.
David Bori
Also, once again, why are you acting like you don't know what a blowjob is?
You acting real brand new on Oprah right now.
Langston Kerman
Her hair literally looks like a man got some head and then did like this afterwards.
David Bori
Yeah, she looks like she just got done.
Langston Kerman
She's not a hero. She's a.
Miles Gray
Or she's, like, putting it together. She's like, my husband had a rainbow. Wait a second. Frank, not you.
Langston Kerman
I thought he had a mud party.
Oprah Winfrey
Place on the penis. Hence the term rainbow. So, okay, and so what is. So what does pretty boy mean? A pretty boy is.
Someone who's.
Miles Gray
Now they go on. What's a pretty boy?
David Bori
Also, Oprah's turned up. You see that. That touch to the neck right here?
Miles Gray
Yeah. Right?
David Bori
That's just. That's tuned up.
Miles Gray
Yeah. She had to feel carotid artery real quick. Like, the blood is flowing. Right.
Langston Kerman
They go into a bunch of other examples, many of which are not even sexual in nature. They're just sort of, like, applying them to weird sexual things.
Miles Gray
Yeah, like kid slang. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Langston Kerman
It's just kid slang that they.
Miles Gray
They're like booty call she. And then that's what Oprah's like. We all know what that is, right?
Fuck around and, you know, make a booty call.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, Come into the big house, Stedman.
Miles Gray
I'll leave the door unlocked this time.
David Bori
On a more serious note, I feel like every generation does this, and I hate it. It's like you're demonizing sex. Like, you don't understand that it feels good.
Miles Gray
Right?
David Bori
Like, you're making it sound like it's such a crazy thing to lick somebody's booty when it just feels good. It feels nice. It feels. You know what I'm saying? Like, I. I hate that because it's like you're making.
Miles Gray
You're.
David Bori
You're giving a weight to sex that kids are gonna have to grow up and figure out how to navigate. Yeah.
Langston Kerman
No, it's an awful little game that they're playing as adults to. To be manipulating kids in this way as it relates to sex. It. It is fascinating how many of them, you can tell, were also manipulated, were also sort of led to be that scared of the thing that this. They have to have this reaction at the. The sound of sex, period. Much less sex from young people.
Miles Gray
Right. And there's always has to be some, like, new deviation from, like, the quote unquote norm. It's like they just. They don't even give head anymore. They put the lipstick on, and they're. They're making, you know, Mark Rothko paintings on their dicks and what the. Is going on. And I think that's, like.
Langston Kerman
It's all Jackson Podic, I think, is what you're going for.
Miles Gray
Yeah. Yeah.
David Bori
Yeah. I'm so thankful that we post this podcast together. I'm thankful for you and your contribution.
Miles Gray
But, like. And it's always, like, part of some, like, you know, conservative backsliding societally, too, where you got to create some moral panic out of the. Just whatever is happening to be, like. And it's. Then that's what's all going wrong right now.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. Yeah.
David Bori
Which is crazy, because ultimately, this is a pretty safe scenario.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Bori
Nobody's getting pregnant.
Miles Gray
Exactly. Well, and they also say that, too. Like, in this Oprah clip. It's like, that's what. See, they don't consider it sex. They consider it outer course, not inner course.
David Bori
And I'm like, yeah.
Langston Kerman
And everybody gasped at the idea that getting head is different than getting pussy and.
Miles Gray
Right. It's like, I went to a Catholic school. I know people were talking about anal sex because they're like, that's not. I think that's cool as long as it's not in the vagina. That then you can still be a virgin and you're like, okay.
David Bori
Dudes were talking about that too, huh? I didn't go to Catholic school, so I'm curious. Men were talking. Dudes talk about that as well.
Miles Gray
I mean, like, I think I was. I was like, you know, I wasn't Catholic, so I like the kids that were. I was just there because it was the cheapest private school in my area. And they're like, I don't know, man. I gotta hear about em.
David Bori
I like, yeah, look, bro.
Miles Gray
And these ghost stories they're telling y' all every day. They're cool and all, but, like, I don't know if this dude really did all this, but anyway, that's to do you.
David Bori
Do you.
Langston Kerman
That's so funny.
Miles Gray
Like, there were. I feel like the kids who are, like, had that real Catholic guilt. Like, those were sort of like the hacks. And you see that like with Mormons, you know what I mean? That's why they do floating and. And soaking or whatever. The, you know, the hacks that they got to get around the Bible because in the end of the day, people just want. They just want to feel good.
David Bori
It feels good. Putting your dick in stuff.
Langston Kerman
Putting your dick in stuff feels good.
David Bori
Dicks in stuff feels good.
Miles Gray
Yeah, we saw American Pie.
Langston Kerman
I bet it does. And I root for all of us to get what feels good. We need to take a break. I think we've been going for a while, but when we come back, we are going to keep talking about more rainbow parties. And more specifically, we're going to get into some of this research, which I'm excited to get into with you guys. I think it's going to be an exciting time talking about this more. So we'll be back in a moment with more Miles Gray and more My mama told me.
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David Bori
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Langston Kerman
Come on. You wanna tell em what we have?
David Bori
Yeah, we have three different types of hats which is really fun. We have a two tone hat, a alien dad hat, the traditional logo in black and khaki. Then we have the enamel pin with the alien who has a koofie on it says My mama told me. And then we have T shirts that say Proud little mama which is who you are.
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Yeah, you can buy the merch now. Go to mymamatoldme.merchtable.com It's a brand new name but it's the same old merch. And we would love for you to if you haven't got it already and we want you to have all the sweet stuff. So get it.
David Bori
We are back. We are discussing rainbow parties, tossed salad and everything in between.
Langston Kerman
I will say that eating ass in high school felt. That felt crazy.
David Bori
I want to say shout out. Man, I don't know if he listen shout out to Lamar. He's this dude who went to the air force early. Like you remember how kids could get Their parents to let him go to the Air Force early. Yeah, he went to the Air Force early. And he came back and he told us all about eating ass. And we were like, this guy's crazy.
Langston Kerman
You would have told me.
David Bori
He came up all the time. We were like, you know that nigga was more. And he was like, I love it. He's the first dude. And he was like. He was like. He was like, I love getting my ass ate. And I was like, heretic. Like, I did not like it. I didn't like it.
Langston Kerman
Burn him.
David Bori
Witch.
Langston Kerman
Witch.
Miles Gray
Doing the fucking gladiator. Thumbs down.
David Bori
And I had assumed it was because he went to Asia.
With the Air Force. I was like, he's been all over the world doing nasty shit.
Miles Gray
He went to the Western Pacific and.
David Bori
He was eating bad bitches. And like, I would meet his girl and I would be like, you just letting this man. So I was one of those crudes is what I'm saying.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. No, I truly would have thought you were a psychopath if you would have told me you were eating ass in high school. But I also remember, and we're all of a similar age. It wasn't really even that cool to say you ate pussy when we were kids.
David Bori
Not like that. It wasn't cool to love it.
Miles Gray
No, no, no, not at all.
Langston Kerman
It was really weird. If you were. Or that's what I do is eat you, we would all been like, what?
Miles Gray
What? Yeah, because I realized like the power of that. And they're like, they actually. They with it if.
David Bori
Yeah, they love it.
Miles Gray
Like, it actually is a cheat code.
Langston Kerman
Let me be clear. I'm a big advocate now.
I just was a boy back then.
Miles Gray
No, of course. Yeah. Because everything you're taught, such a. Like a, you know, toxic version of masculinity where it's like, yo, you. You get it done to you. Don't do shit. Don't put your mouth open.
David Bori
What a crazy way to have sex.
Miles Gray
I know, exactly.
David Bori
Just fully one sided.
Miles Gray
Yeah. I wanna be like Dracula in a coffin. That's my energy when I have sex.
David Bori
She's supposed to have no fun.
Miles Gray
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
It's like, bro, I don't know what your plan is, but I ain't doing nothing good enough to skip steps.
Miles Gray
You know what I mean?
Langston Kerman
I gotta.
David Bori
Yeah, Andre told us all the time, but we did not listen.
Remember that? I didn't know what he was talking. I was just like, this loves science. Like, I didn't even think about. That's true.
Miles Gray
What's a cultural simulation.
Langston Kerman
He was not always to eat, but he was also being like, be a vegan and take your shoes off. And we were like, I don't know, man. You got a lot.
David Bori
This is impossible.
Miles Gray
Yeah, keep wearing those overalls, bro.
David Bori
I get it.
Langston Kerman
You're like going through something, but I'm gonna let that dust settle before I start emulating this.
David Bori
You've been Hex by Erykah Badu. I understand.
Miles Gray
Yeah, I went to the. I remember I seen the Stankonia tour when. When they. They were touring that album, the whole stage was a giant vulva. And I remember being. I remember being confused as hell. How would they do that, bro?
Just be like, the is wrong with them, man?
Langston Kerman
These guys are weird, man.
Miles Gray
The vagina, bro. Y' all trying to say about your.
But that's what a 17 year old brain does. Looking at that, I'm like, I don't. I don't know what they're trying to. They're pussy. I don't know, bro.
David Bori
We really grew up in an era where it was not okay to just be like, I love pussy.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Bori
Like the actual thing. You couldn't just be like, I just love that thing. I want.
Langston Kerman
No, you could love getting pussy, but you could not.
Miles Gray
Because I appreciate. Yeah, yeah, no, none of that. None of that. Would you an artist, bro? Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Get the fuck out of here.
Miles Gray
All right, Georgia.
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Damn, we were lame, man. This is so, like.
Miles Gray
I know. So I salute the kids for being so many. So much more open and worldly than like.
Langston Kerman
It's truly what makes me hate, like, my father's generation of men that they can't look back and go, bro, we were sad.
Miles Gray
Yeah.
David Bori
That was what we.
Langston Kerman
What we. If you can't look at that and go, man, fuck, that was lame. I'm okay now. I'm good. Then you're a fucking loser, man. You're so lame. I don't say my father's generation to suggest my dad isn't that, but more just that there's a. The baby boomer era of men just suck.
Miles Gray
Right, right, right.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, they fucking suck. None of them will just be like, man, we were losers. I get it now.
Miles Gray
Would they ever say something like on a podcast, like, you know, like, I think we were contributing to rape culture.
David Bori
Yeah.
Miles Gray
And that's terrible. And I. And I have a lot of regrets about something like that. I mean, like, you know, I think that's.
David Bori
That's just.
Miles Gray
I think that's just like an intellectual bridge. A lot of people don't cross. A lot of the time they don't want to have that, even if you.
Langston Kerman
Want to take some of the weighted language off of it. Because I get it. Like, you. You start to use, like, the sort of, like, liberal young person verbiage, and you start to feel less yourself. I understand that instinct, but just, we hated women. We were mean to fucking women is a simple enough breakdown of like, damn, I think I hated women. Women. Ah, well, I'm better now. Is such an easy revelation to be had.
David Bori
We just did it.
Miles Gray
We did it and said, damn, I fucking hate myself.
David Bori
Yeah.
Miles Gray
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Cause that was corny.
Miles Gray
Yeah, I was. And I reduced, like, the whole idea of, like, a woman to, like, this flattened sort of, like, concept of, like, a game where it's like, can I unlock sex? And, like, no type of.
David Bori
No type of dynamics in their personalities.
Miles Gray
No, no, no.
David Bori
You know what I realized as I got older? I never thought I would think of a man's perspective. I never sat and thought, like, so what are women supposed to do?
Langston Kerman
Right?
David Bori
You know what I'm saying? What's her life supposed to be?
Miles Gray
Right? Right.
David Bori
She's just supposed to be okay with me being. You know what I mean? But it's like. It's very. It's not like a difficult. It's not like a difficult thing to look at, you know?
Miles Gray
Right.
Langston Kerman
No, it's. It's so easy to look at. And these motherfuckers who can't are losers. And, ladies, if you're with somebody who hasn't yet admitted that he used to be real fucking lame about the way he treated you, then he might be a bad guy, baby girl.
Miles Gray
I don't know.
Langston Kerman
Maybe he was.
David Bori
Hey, maybe he was progressive. There were. There were guys. Shout out to all the Lamars out there.
Miles Gray
Yeah, yeah.
David Bori
There were guys early. You had to go to Korea or wherever he went.
Miles Gray
The other people I was enlisted with came back different.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, Well, I did a little bit of research on the subject of rainbow parties. And while the Oprah clip is sort of when it becomes most popular, Miles, I think you know this too. According to Wikipedia, there is a Christian pediatrician who first wrote about the subject in 2002. Her book How Teen Sex is Killing Our Kids basically creates all these allegations of adolescents suffering from cancer, suffering from sterility, acute infections, and unwanted pregnancies as a consequence of starting sexual activity too early in life.
So she writes this book in 2002, basically being like, you kids are dying because they're too goddamn damn horny, and there's nothing you can do.
Miles Gray
You'll never Believe the kind of she's talking about now.
If this is where she started 18 years ago, 15 years ago, you can't. I'll give you one guess what website she's regularly publishing. The Daily Wire. Bro. She's on that. Ben Shapiro's like health expert now. Yeah, yeah.
David Bori
Famed pussy enthusiast Ben Shapiro.
Miles Gray
It's wet. No, no, no. Something's wrong. Something's definitely wrong.
Langston Kerman
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Miles Gray
No, no, no. If there's that kind of moisture, you should, you should absolutely consult a medical professional because something is definitely wrong with some kind of disorder.
Langston Kerman
There's a quote from the book which this woman claims was relayed to her by a 14 year old girl in Michigan. Again, she says Allison had heard some kids were going to have a rainbow party, but had no idea what that meant. Still, she thought it might be fun and arranged to attend with a friend. After she arrived, several girls, all in the eighth grade, were given different shades of lipstick and told to perform oral sex on different boys to give them, quote, unquote, rainbows. Once she realized what was happening, Alison was too stunned and frightened. Frightened to do anything. When a girl gave her some lipstick, she refused at first, but with repeated pressure, finally gave in. It was one of the grossest things I've ever done.
Miles Gray
Oh, God.
Langston Kerman
My God.
Miles Gray
My God. It always starts off that way. I heard some kids, I heard about it. And this is like the thing when, when you, when you start like, what.
David Bori
Are you doing talking to little girls about getting. Sucking dicks. Get a real job. How about that?
Langston Kerman
That's a really big sort of flag inside of a lot of. What I discovered here is that it's a lot of adults talking to children, quote, unquote, children about their sexual activity and then relaying it to each other.
Miles Gray
Right.
Langston Kerman
It's fucking weird.
Miles Gray
Yeah. Well, and also like from, from people who are so, like on the abstinence side of the spectrum too. Like a Christian pediatrician. Like, I can't even fathom a conversation where she's like. And tell me about like the wild sex shit you ever done, you know.
Langston Kerman
To coax this out of this girl.
Miles Gray
Yeah. Like, it feels. This is why, like, again, like, my theory with how this started. It sounds like a lie a boy told. You know what I mean? And then from there it's very lie, by the way. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Because it has everything. It has everything in the grand scheme.
Langston Kerman
Of like, if I'm just gonna make up some for, for my friends and community to enjoy It's a very funny, very cool lie. Kudos to that young man.
Miles Gray
Exactly.
David Bori
If I'm gonna lie on my dick, let it be wearing a Technicolor dream coat.
Miles Gray
Yeah, exactly.
Langston Kerman
Because so many women suck that.
That it changed into all the colors it captain planted it into fucking the perfect penis.
David Bori
My shit gets sucked so much, they have to make a gay mouth of it.
Miles Gray
Yeah. And they have to verify who did it. According to this color chart.
David Bori
We have invitations and RSVPs to my.
Miles Gray
And it's a party.
Langston Kerman
Sucks so much it looks like a twister board. Start crawling on it and putting their hands and feet in different places.
David Bori
Left with green.
Miles Gray
Yeah. So that happened.
David Bori
Yeah, yeah, yeah. How was your summer?
Miles Gray
And that definitely happened. So that's what I'm trying to tell y', all, man. Like, y' all gotta hear about these rainbows parties. And like, it also, too. Because that was a funny thing. I remember asking, like, you know when you're in high school, like, you're with all your friends, like a nutrition period or whatever, and someone's bringing it up. And I remember all the girls are like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like, all the girls I knew were like, that is disgusting. I would never fucking. Y' all are fucking disgusting. I don't fuck with any of y'. All. Like, I don't fuck with anybody enough, not even my own friends to be like, girl, we better go hit the Mac counter and get all these different shades of lipstick because we're doing a rainbow party tonight. Like, that is such a weird. It's like a concept of a woman that is created in a man's fantasy world. And you need something like this to sort of, like, get yourself through your, you know, incel sort of life to.
Langston Kerman
Be like, yeah, yeah. That was the part that. That even in the story that. That the girl is telling feels so false. Where she had never heard of the rainbow parties, was not invited to the rainbow parties, but somehow is able to just show up, up as a plus one with a different friend. And it's like, nah, dog. If you were at a rainbow party, I bet there were a lot of very consenting people in that room. Everybody knew why they were there, and everybody that was there was ready to be there. There was no, like, maybe I'll check it out and see what happens type.
Miles Gray
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. I mean, it's funny too. Like, you talk about, like, people talk, like, the. Even the idea of bringing up this, like, myth with your kids. There's this other clip that I found it's from some show called Mom Logic. And for whatever reason, I clocked Shawnee o', Neal, Shaq's ex wife, as one of the three moms talking. But again, it's like a short clip where it's. It's doing the same thing where it's like, have you heard of this fake thing? And then they're all like, oh, no. What's. What's going on with our kids?
Shaunie O'Neal
Yeah, yeah, about rainbow parties. Oh, what's a rainbow party? I'm sorry to tell you. You do need to know what a rainbow party is. It's not happy little elves and fairies. It's starting in junior high, and they're very popular now. They're oral sex parties in which each girl is given a different color lipstick, and the boys go around and receive oral sex from all the girls with a different lipstick. So then they end up with rings of lipstick around their penis, and the guy with the most rainbow colors on his penis wins.
Miles Gray
Whatever.
Langston Kerman
He wins.
Shaunie O'Neal
I don't know. I guess he wins a lot of oral sex that night.
Langston Kerman
That's shocking.
Shaunie O'Neal
But that's.
David Bori
Can I say.
And allow me to put my conspiracy theory hat on, please. I'm steepling for the people at home.
Langston Kerman
Please.
David Bori
These two white ladies are into it, right? Oh, there's an undercurrent of excitement that these two women. Right. Shaunie o' Neal is not into it.
Miles Gray
Yeah, she's two white ladies.
David Bori
You see that?
Miles Gray
Why?
David Bori
Oh, my God. That's disgusting.
Miles Gray
Now let me find out.
David Bori
Is that not the tone?
Miles Gray
Am I.
David Bori
Maybe I'm misreading the tone. It is.
Miles Gray
It's cheeky. It's definitely. There's a cheekiness.
Langston Kerman
I felt it much more from. From Oprah, the devil in this bluish green than I did from the other lady.
Miles Gray
Right, right.
Langston Kerman
Very different than the Oprah clipped. I felt like those women were reacting very genuinely and honestly to having heard about this for the first time. Time. This feels very much like they talked about ahead of time. This is. We're gonna talk about rainbow parties, and you're gonna have to pretend to be surprised when I say it.
Miles Gray
Right.
Langston Kerman
This feels very planned and plotted to me.
Miles Gray
Yeah. I think maybe it's her charisma as, like, Whoever this, like, Dr. Shannon Fox woman is who's doing the talking. Like, she's trying to be all, like, have y' all heard? Because it. I know what you mean, David. It feels like the momentum of what she's saying is eventually gonna end with shit. A.
David Bori
Like.
Miles Gray
And that's what we're Doing tonight, girl, That's.
David Bori
Doesn't it feel, like, tonally Shawnee, clearly not into it. I will say that she does not like you.
Miles Gray
She had. Yeah, that. That felt like the authentic disgust of, like, a person. Like, the fuck are y' all talking?
Langston Kerman
What?
David Bori
Yeah, she thinks it's nasty, the other two.
Miles Gray
But, yeah, look, we'll. We'll hear from Shani. I think. I think she says something right after.
Shaunie O'Neal
Very common, and especially now. A lot of people are involved in, like, abstinence only movements, which I'm a fan of abstinence in high school, I have to say. But they're not taught that oral sex is at least as intimate as intercourse.
Girls wouldn't admit that they were even doing the.
Miles Gray
Or.
Shaunie O'Neal
That was like, you know, you did. Wow. The good old days. You were like a super freak if you did that.
David Bori
You know what I mean?
Shaunie O'Neal
It was a natural.
Miles Gray
She loves it. Come on.
David Bori
She loves it.
Also. What is the issue here? Intimacy. That's what she's stating.
The thing that they're not trying. They're trying to keep kids away from intimacy.
Miles Gray
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
I think certainly they are using. They're using weird language, you know what I mean? Where we're really making this about, like, a broad, sweeping sexual problem and less about, like. Like, if we're concerned about rainbow parties, just make it about rainbow parties. I don't want my daughter sucking 10 dicks in a night, and certainly not 10 dicks that 10 other ladies sucked. Whatever. But don't make it about, like, sex in general. That seems.
Miles Gray
That's why you're. Yeah, I think that's why this specific theory is. It's really just built for, like, moral panic. It's really not about to, like, drill down on what the thing is. It's just to be. Be like, oh, here's the. The talking point of the day to be like. And that's. Look at all these kids. They're nasty. This is. This is the problem with what's happening. And it's not necessarily about, like, do we need to be educating kids more about sex or other things like that? It's like, they're so nasty. Y'. All?
David Bori
Right?
Miles Gray
Yeah, I remember the good old days when you were bullied. You were bullied into a mental health crisis for admitting you were doing anything remotely intimate with someone. Somebody.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. It's like, what. What is the nostalgia you're reaching for that we sit around. We want our kids to sit around a table, repressed, talking to each other about a future that never was. You know what I Mean, like, yeah. What are you talking about?
Miles Gray
Yeah, and there's just definitely more of an emphasis on, like, the girls involved than, like, the guys involved, too. Because then, like, all of these things usually are, like, go hand in hand, like, with trying to just be like. And this is why people need less control over their bodies, because if you let them, they're doing like this.
Langston Kerman
Besides the Oprah clip, there's, like, a history of other times that rainbow parties have come up in various forms of media. There's a 2005 book written by a dude named Paul Rudis called Rainbow Party that's about that subject. Somehow he wrote an entire book about it. This adult man. There's a 2010 episode of the Doctors about Rainbow Party. There's a 2015 law and order episode about a measles outbreak brought on by Rainbow Party. And there's a 15 minute Icelandic short film called Rainbow Party about this very subject.
David Bori
I mean, can I say shout out to Law and Order? That's the only negative consequence I've heard in all these things.
It's like measles. Okay. You don't want to get measles. That's. That's like an in. That makes sense to me.
Langston Kerman
Right?
Miles Gray
Yeah.
David Bori
Everything else is. I don't. Nobody's even. They're not even talking about, like, STDs or are these kids. It's literally just sucking dicks.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. No, the fear is the sexuality itself, not the consequences of it, in this case. And that's.
Miles Gray
Right, Right. Yeah.
Langston Kerman
That's very telling.
Miles Gray
Yeah. And I mean, like, again, it falls apart when you just start asking questions about, like, is everybody showing each other, like, how do these come together? Whose house is it at?
Langston Kerman
Dudes.
Miles Gray
Right. Yeah.
David Bori
Yeah. Why are you only talking to women who participate? You don't think there's dudes chopping at the bit to tell somebody?
Miles Gray
Right? And. Yeah, and no one can. Like, no one's even. No one's even wild enough to lie about it. Like, you're like, yeah, I went to a rainbow party. Like, no, you fucking didn't. They're like, no, you're right.
But I know somebody at a public school that did. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Keep going, keep going.
Langston Kerman
So, Miles, you've used this term already, but experts, despite all of the appearances of this in public conversations and media and shit, experts say that this is completely fabricated, that there are no rainbow parties. And certainly if there were, it was, like, one that probably went terribly wrong and no one ever did again.
But it's certainly there is no evidence to substantiate these claims that there are rainbow parties, much less rampant ones amongst 8th graders and shit.
Miles Gray
Right. Yeah, it was just something that horny kids had to keep the memory alive in their minds, basically. Which, I don't know, I guess it's more of a commentary on horniness than anything.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. And sort of the despising of horniness, I would say, right?
Miles Gray
Yeah, yeah.
David Bori
The hatred of your own horny.
Langston Kerman
The hatred of your.
Miles Gray
Don't hate the horn.
David Bori
Come on. Hate the game.
Miles Gray
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Now you use the term moral panic, which they basically say is a threat of a person or persons leading to the corruption of societal values and institutions. So. So this moral panic was coined by this guy named Stanley Cohen who says moral panic is a condition, episode person or group of persons who emerges to become defined as a threat to societal values and interests. And while this issue is identified and could be real, the issue he claims that the exaggerated seriousness, extent and typicality and or inevitability of the harm is exaggerated. Exaggerated, right.
Miles Gray
Yeah, I mean they're like every, I mean we're always looking. There's always some kind of moral panic happening, you know, around. Especially like right now. Whether it's like they're like kids are going to the bathroom in a sandbox. Like, like. Yeah, it's like no, they're not.
David Bori
Been there, done that.
Miles Gray
Have you?
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Miles Gray
No man, like no. Nobody's going. Or like, you know, just even like with like human trafficking, like how, you know, we've got like these weird ass movies that like, are these depictions of like a kind of human trafficking like that does not exist but is meant there to sort of keep this sort of, you know, fear in our society. To be able to then introduce like other laws that are more restrictive. And it's just kind of, they're, you know, they're part and parcel of like, you know, how our society becomes like more progressive or liberal and then how it becomes more conservative and like we're, we're just in one of those eras again I think right now.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. But here's what we should do. We, we will take a break. We're going to take one more break. As demanded by Justin. He screams at us, he says, take two breaks, you stupid.
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God damn it.
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David Bori
And we are back to wrap up our discussion on rainbow parties. Rainbow parties. Do they work? Will they work?
Langston Kerman
Do they work?
Miles Gray
Do they work?
David Bori
Should we throw one?
Langston Kerman
I think they work.
Miles Gray
Look.
David Bori
Well, I don't. Here's one thing that. There would be adult rainbow parties if they were right.
Langston Kerman
That's true.
David Bori
There would be rainbow party pornos. There would be rainbow party porn parodies. Like, this would all be. You know what I mean?
Langston Kerman
This would.
David Bori
It would have got into practice if it was a viable thing.
Langston Kerman
I also think, not for nothing, that's the issue with the imagineers over in porn is like, y' all gotta start getting into conspiracy theory porn more than just doing stuff that already exists.
David Bori
Sounds like somebody's horny.
Langston Kerman
Like, stop just remaking the things that exist and start really. Start imagining us a future sex for us. Right? Like, I don't. Yeah, I don't need more stepson shit. I need you to imagine what other family members no one has ever thought to fuck. You know what I mean?
David Bori
Like, really, this is a crazy take.
Miles Gray
Yeah, give us an example.
David Bori
Yeah, I was with you until that last part.
Langston Kerman
I'm not saying that specifically. I'm merely talking through the emotionality. I'm saying seeking.
Miles Gray
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
I want them to truly prove themselves as artists.
Miles Gray
Well, there used to be. There used to be those porn videos that Bang Bros made that were like. It would be like a stripper and everybody's giving them head. Like at a bachelorette party.
David Bori
Yes, I remember. You know what I mean?
Miles Gray
But that wasn't. They. That wasn't like a rainbow party. They're just like. It was just kind of group oral sex video.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Bori
Also, if you look into it, not a career option.
Miles Gray
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, yeah. Usually kind of like, those are like, those video. There was such a genre of video that were like, just fake stuff. Like, there would be those ones like. Like. Like college parties where people were just having sex in the middle of the college party. I remember I grew up in. I grew up in the San Fernando Valley, so that's where all that shit is shot. And I remember I had a friend who I was in marching band with this, like, nerdy dude. He hit me up. He's like, hey, bro, I'm working with this porn company. And you know, we're about to throw one of them college parts parties, you know, if you want to come through or whatever. And I'm like, whoa, what, bro? I'm like, I mean, I'm not a performer. He's like, nah, man. He's like, this. It's actual porno people. He's like, you just gotta like, make it look like. Like a house party. And I remember. I. I remember. I was like, all right, say less. And I told my friends, like, yo, we're about to go see one of these things happen. It was the most uncomfortable situation I'd ever been in my life.
David Bori
So you're in a porno?
Miles Gray
Oh, I was. I was nowhere near, like, the inner circle to be, like, captured on video. Because, like, once I saw how it's set up, I'm like, bro, let's just smoke weed outside and get the out of here.
David Bori
Like, how is it set up?
Miles Gray
It was basically like, it was at this house in Northridge, and it, like, from the outside, it looked like just a wild Halloween party. Like, all these people were going in and out in costumes. And then, like, off the, like, main living room, there was like, another sort of smaller family room, like, den kind of thing. And that's where they were having sex, like, on video. And so, like, the real wild ass people who wanted to be up in it were, like, in that. Like, they packed that room out and then. So, like, so it was a smaller place. So in the background, you just saw all these bodies moving around as if, like, yeah, man, this is just normally happening at this party. And they had, like, kegs and. But by the end of it, like, most people were like, what the fuck? And also, like, every, like, woman that was there was like, what the fuck am I at right now? Like that. But we were going to a costume party, and I was like, yeah, that's.
Langston Kerman
My point about the rainbow parties is there's no way that the. That make it into that room go, well, I didn't know what I was getting myself into, right, bitch, yes, you did. Because everybody who was reasonable went outside to smoke and was rolling their eyes. When they walked in, they were like, no, this is the devil's work.
Miles Gray
I'm not gonna. Right?
Langston Kerman
I'm not gonna participate in this. I think it's great. I'm happy they're doing it, but I'm not fucking about to go into the wildest room that's ever existed.
Miles Gray
I'm like, am I built for that? Even as a kid, I would've been so humiliated I'm like, I can't get, get naked in front of no other people, man.
David Bori
Oh, I would not have, I would.
Miles Gray
Have been like, I gotta go. Like, like even if there was. I feel like, even though if, like, Even if like 17 year old me, 16 year old me, whatever was at the precip, like the threshold to enter a rainbow party, I would be like, nah, you know, I got my, my, my calf hurts, man. I don't want to tear it if.
Langston Kerman
I have a. I actually had a rainbow party about three days ago. They say it's not good to double up.
Miles Gray
I actually did two rainbows earlier, so I'm good, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I also took like, I also took like three ecstasies before I got here. So, you know, I'm kind of messed up.
Langston Kerman
You know. I actually gave up rainbow parties for Lent. So I'm, I'm trying to cleanse myself, but I'll be back on my rainbow shit. The last little thing that I'll, I'll throw your way. And you were starting to bring this up before we, we went to break is that this moral panic is actually a condition we've seen throughout history, specifically around things like the Red scare of the 40s and 50s, the devil's music relating to blues and jazz, rock and roll, hip hop, all the switchblades, apparently in the 50s were this terrifying thing that everybody was, was morally panicking about.
David Bori
They were right about that one.
That is scary.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, it's scary. But they were like, every kid has a switchblade and they're all switched stabbing each other and shit.
Miles Gray
Right. Dungeons and Dragons, they were even against.
Langston Kerman
Dragons, was apparently one.
David Bori
I thought the nerds were gonna learn.
Miles Gray
Magic and get it satanic, you know what I mean?
Langston Kerman
Yeah, it was like satanic shit.
Miles Gray
Yeah. And yeah, you get those every now and then too.
Langston Kerman
The satanic panic, the AIDS epidemic is, is another one. And video games and of course my personal favorite, the war on Dr.
Miles Gray
Drugs.
Langston Kerman
All examples.
David Bori
Do you guys feel like. I know this is a tone change at the end. I just have always been curious about this. Do you feel like our age, we got AIDS the worst. Like we were the ones.
Miles Gray
Oh, like this scared.
David Bori
We got AIDS from the time we were little kids.
Miles Gray
Right.
David Bori
Like other people kind of found it as an adult. So they were already kind of into their ways. We were like taught to be scared of sex or not scared, whatever.
Miles Gray
From a very potential for. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
David Bori
Like the Runway to AIDS for us was really long.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. I will say I think we got the worst Sex education of all the generations, like, we. We got all the fear after the worst version of what could happen to you was fully activated. And adults had like, Right. Gotten all their rocks off. So they weren't like, sex positive anymore. They were like, nah, I'm washed and you will be too.
David Bori
I feel like we were the generation who. We're the only ones who gave condoms a real shot.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Bori
Yes.
Miles Gray
Really tried.
David Bori
Everybody else was like, I'm not. I'm 28 years old. I'm not doing that.
Langston Kerman
God damn.
Miles Gray
I'm not in the military.
David Bori
We were 16. Like, you got these condoms, right?
Miles Gray
And we're like, no, but everything that can happen, I remember. Yeah, because I. That whole thing, right? Like, I grew. What? I was born in 84. So I remember going to the AIDS walk in like 1990, like as a six year old, and they were handing out condoms and shit, and I was like, what the going on? My dad's like, yeah, man. Like, because this is how you can. This safe sex. It's about safe sex and even like tlc. You know what I mean? Like that. Yeah, yeah. Like, everybody, like, condoms were just sort of like part of the aesthetic. And like, everyone knew that, like, the. The risk involved was potentially death. And then I remember fucking Philadelphia coming out and like, wow.
Langston Kerman
Had a condom as an eyepatch. That was our culture.
David Bori
And you know what? Nobody said T boz left eye or chili. Nobody was like, hey, these kind of suck.
Nobody ever was like, hey, it does not feel as good. I just wish somebody would have said it. Nobody said it.
Miles Gray
Right, right.
David Bori
And like, said it to us because it was.
Miles Gray
And I think that's what sort of made it even more effective because it was dealing with something that was very real and very serious. But it. I think when you have a child sort of idea with like not knowing anything about sex and you're. You're sort of an immediate association is like, I could potentially die. Yeah. Yeah, that definitely throws shit off a bit.
Langston Kerman
No, it fully throws you. I. I've talked about this before on the podcast. I grew up a kid who was watching 2020 every night, like with my mom. That was just our shit. Was like always watching 20 20. And to this day, I still get scared from this episode they had where they microwave soup. Like they were warning people that their. Your microwaves might fight back at you, sort of. Because you could microwave soup and if you drop a spoon in the bowl too fast, there could be like a reaction that causes the soup to explode into your face. And they had this girl on there who was terribly scarred from, like, hot cocoa or some shit, that she dropped a spoon in too fast and it blows your face up and you'll look like a terrible ghoul. And to this fucking day, I am terrified that there's going to be a chain reaction from me heating up soup or something in a microwave.
Miles Gray
Oh, that's.
David Bori
You've eaten soup like that?
Langston Kerman
That, bro. I try it all.
I'm a wild guy over here, man.
Miles Gray
Having a rainbow soup party. And.
Langston Kerman
I got about six soups set up. Yeah, it's a rainbow in my belly.
Miles Gray
Call me to live because I'm getting hit with the soup blast, baby.
Langston Kerman
I think. I think we did it. I think. I think we. We covered what we needed to cover here. It sounds like we're all agreement that rainbow parties probably were not real. And if they were, invite me next time. Don't. Don't be like that.
Miles Gray
Don't hold out now.
Langston Kerman
That ain't cool to not invite everybody to the rainbow party. Miles, you want to tell the people where they can find you and what cool shit you have going on?
Miles Gray
Yeah, find me at Miles of Gray on Twitter, whatever they got at Symbols. I'm at Miles of gray. Even on PlayStation Network. You know, I keep it. I keep it consistent. You can also find me on the daily news, politics, culture, comedy show I do called the Daily Zeitgeist. And if you'd like 90 Day Fiance, I also do a. A podcast called 420 Day Fiance with Sophia, Alexandra and yeah, a bunch of shit. But anyway, yeah, check my socials out. You can see it all there.
Langston Kerman
Hell yeah. Bori, what you got?
David Bori
Cool guy jokes87 on Instagram. That's the only place I'm at, except. Except for Patreon. Patreon.com davidbori D A V I D G B O R I E I just filmed my special last week. It was great. Thank you so much to everybody that came out.
Langston Kerman
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Podcast: My Momma Told Me
Hosts: Langston Kerman & David Gborie
Guest: Miles Gray
Date: December 4, 2025
In this re-released episode of My Momma Told Me, comedians Langston Kerman, David Gborie, and returning guest Miles Gray delve into the “rainbow party” conspiracy theory—a sensational urban legend about teens at “oral sex parties.” With their trademark mix of humor and insight, they explore the origins, pop culture spread, and moral panic surrounding this myth, relating it to broader themes of Black conspiracy lore, sex education, and generational hangups.
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On the Impracticality of the Myth:
“What technique is being used during the fellatio... are you just going, like, stamping rings around?” — Miles Gray [16:32]
On Taboo Sex in High School:
“You would have told me you ate ass in high school, I’d have thought you were a psychopath.” — Langston Kerman [36:55]
On Generational Growth:
“It’s truly what makes me hate, like, my father’s generation...they can’t look back and go, ‘Bro, we were sad.’” — Langston Kerman [39:48]
On Moral Panics:
“Moral panic is a condition, episode person or group of persons who emerges to become defined as a threat to societal values and interests... the exaggerated seriousness… is exaggerated.” — Miles Gray citing Stanley Cohen [56:37]
On Sex Ed & Fear:
“We were the generation who—he only ones who gave condoms a real shot.” — David Bori [68:31]
Summary prepared for those curious about the “rainbow party” myth and its real cultural significance—without needing to hear the full episode.