Welfare Queen (with Blakely Thornton)

Summary

Episode Summary: "Welfare Queen" — My Momma Told Me

Release Date: August 5, 2025

Podcast Information:

• Title: My Momma Told Me
• Hosts: Langston Kerman and David Bore
• Guest: Blakely Thornton
• Produced by: Big Money Players Network and iHeartPodcasts

Overview: In the "Welfare Queen" episode of My Momma Told Me, hosts Langston Kerman and David Bore engage in a deep and provocative discussion with guest Blakely Thornton about the origins and implications of welfare systems in the United States. The episode delves into the conspiracy theory that welfare policies were intentionally designed to disrupt and weaken Black family structures by keeping Black men out of the household.

Key Sections:

1. Introduction to the Topic ([13:35] - [15:00])

   • The episode shifts focus as Blakely Thornton introduces himself and the central theme.
   • Blakely Thornton ([14:01]): "Hello, hello, hello. That is how the trouble began with the slave ships and me. We are ancestors' greatest dreams and white people's greatest nightmares."

2. Historical Context of Welfare Systems ([15:00] - [17:00])

   • Blakely provides a historical backdrop, tracing welfare systems back to post-Great Depression reforms.
   • Unnamed Speaker 1 ([15:59]): "I believe the inception was after the Great Depression to kind of help families and give a social safety net for everybody."
   • Discussion on how welfare was retooled during the Reagan administration to target Black communities specifically.

3. The "Welfare Queen" Conspiracy Theory ([17:00] - [25:00])

   • Blakely elaborates on the idea that welfare policies were weaponized to keep Black men out of the home, thereby destabilizing Black family units.
   • Blakely Thornton ([16:00]): "So then this is where it gets even nastier. Is that part of the propaganda that they spend is that they go, they're obsessed with welfare. They can't get enough of welfare. All the while these motherfuckers can't even get on welfare."
   • Unnamed Speaker 1 ([17:07]): "It's easier just to keep them out of the house than to have to deal with doing the overt, very hard to cover up."

4. Systemic Implications and Modern Reflections ([25:00] - [35:00])

   • The conversation transitions to contemporary issues, discussing privatized prisons and aggressive policing as tools to maintain systemic control.
   • Blakely Thornton ([46:45]): "Everybody's a coon who's sitting around eating watermelon, lazing around, whatever. Then that version of propaganda starts to not work the way they want it to because of changes in voting, changes in opportunities."

5. Propaganda and Public Perception ([35:00] - [45:00])

   • Exploration of how propaganda has been used to reinforce negative stereotypes about Black individuals, particularly focusing on the "welfare queen" myth.
   • Blakely Thornton ([43:39]): "Because black people were specifically forced into jobs where they were largely being paid in cash and off the books, they had no way of demonstrating that they had work."

6. Contemporary Racism and Systemic Barriers ([45:00] - [55:00])

   • Hosts and guest discuss modern manifestations of racism and how historical policies have left lasting impacts on Black communities.
   • Unnamed Speaker 1 ([45:23]): "It's targeted. [...] They go, they're obsessed with welfare. They can't get enough of welfare."

7. Conclusion and Insights ([55:00] - [63:00])

   • The episode wraps up with reflections on the discussed conspiracy theory, emphasizing the enduring challenges faced by Black families due to systemic policies.
   • Blakely Thornton ([46:27]): "Truly. I think so much about like the early transitions of like a post slavery race or like after slavery, the best thing that they could come up with as propaganda for how to pitch black people as like, not good was to say we were lazy."

Notable Quotes:

• Blakely Thornton ([16:00]): "So then this is where it gets even nastier. Is that part of the propaganda that they spend is that they go, they're obsessed with welfare. They can't get enough of welfare. All the while these motherfuckers can't even get on welfare."
• Unnamed Speaker 1 ([17:07]): "It's easier just to keep them out of the house than to have to deal with doing the overt, very hard to cover up."
• Blakely Thornton ([43:39]): "Because black people were specifically forced into jobs where they were largely being paid in cash and off the books, they had no way of demonstrating that they had work."

Insights and Conclusions: The hosts and Blakely Thornton present a compelling argument that welfare systems in the United States have been historically and intentionally manipulated to undermine Black family structures by excluding Black men from participating fully in household welfare benefits. This, in turn, has perpetuated cycles of economic disenfranchisement and social instability within Black communities. The episode underscores the importance of understanding the intersection of policy, propaganda, and systemic racism in shaping societal outcomes.

Final Thoughts: "Welfare Queen" offers a thought-provoking exploration of how systemic policies can be weaponized against marginalized communities. By combining historical analysis with contemporary reflections, My Momma Told Me provides listeners with a nuanced understanding of the deep-rooted challenges facing Black families in America today.

Transcript

[Langston Kerman]

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[David Bore]

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[Blakely Thornton]

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[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I just wanna like ask a white chef like is this grass fed beef every day with a really stank face? That's beautiful. I'm really into having white domestics I think that needs to.

[Langston Kerman]

Like, I was just talking to my girl about that. I'm into that, too.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I love a white. I had a white lady cleaning up for a while. I love a white domestic.

[Langston Kerman]

But, you know, the problem was. Or the funny thing about having a white cleaning lady. As soon as I was out on. As she became too extra, I was like, get out of here, Diane.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Get out of here, Diane.

[Langston Kerman]

Like, she was telling me about her life and. Get out of here. The government growing babies.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Microchips in your anus.

[Langston Kerman]

All koala bears are racist.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

The ozone layer owes me money.

[Langston Kerman]

Marshy defending turkey stuffing. Y' all can't tell me nothing. Guess who's back. Guess who's back. Guess who's back. I was trying to do welcome Back Kotter, and then in the middle, it fucked me.

[Blakely Thornton]

Oh, man. You started at the hardest part.

[Langston Kerman]

At the hardest part. And then I was like, I don't have a way out of this. And I was like, if you just are casual over it. Yeah. Ultimately, maybe they'll think it's.

[Blakely Thornton]

You had so little enthusiasm for it that I thought maybe you had something had gone wrong.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Certainly.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. I was sure. You know what it is? That's me panicking. I was panicking just there. You saw it.

[Blakely Thornton]

You thought you could out cool the mistake.

[Langston Kerman]

Exactly. Because I started saying, guess who's back? And I was like, fuck, it's welcome back. And then I was thinking about that Scarface song.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

And I was like, maybe if I'm chill, they'll think it's that. And then I went for total transparency with you. And I now feel weak.

[Blakely Thornton]

No. Frankly, this is not how we start our episode.

[Langston Kerman]

No, it's not.

[Blakely Thornton]

But you still have a chance. Go ahead, kick off our normal language so that we can start this Norma Lynch.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay. Yeah. Okay.

[Blakely Thornton]

You get a whole try.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm gonna start with a new song. A different song. Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Or get the first one right.

[Blakely Thornton]

Just.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

He's like, I'm starting now. I gotta get going.

[Blakely Thornton]

Okay, here we go. It's all you, big dog.

[Langston Kerman]

Guess who's Bizak. Guess who's Bizak. Guess who's Bizak? Welcome, little mamas and gentiles alike, to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told.

[Blakely Thornton]

Me the podcast, where we dive deep, deep into the pockets of black conspiracy.

[Langston Kerman]

Theories, and we finally work to prove nothing. We don't give a shit about you. We're just trying to get rich.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah, man. There's no goal here.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

There's capitalism. Capitalism is the goal.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. We fly no flag.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

This Is a zero sum game.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, exactly, Exactly. I'm playing to die. I prepared a statement.

[Blakely Thornton]

You prepared a statement?

[Langston Kerman]

I prepared a statement.

[Blakely Thornton]

Here we go. This is exciting.

[Langston Kerman]

Dear young millennial black man who listened to the new Clips album and felt nothing. That's okay. You're okay. It's okay to not love the clips as much as you did in the 11th grade. You're fine. Fandom is a relationship and sometimes in long term relationships, people drift apart. So cherish the good times that you had with the clips and know now, much like the 3 XL Rockaway T shirt you used to rock to listen to them, the relationship is ill fitting. It's time to die. You don't care about cocaine that much.

[Blakely Thornton]

Whoa. Wow.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Well, I do. And I love the new Clips album, thank you very much. So I hard disagree, brother.

[Langston Kerman]

I wasn't talking to you. Wake up, Wake up. I said to the man who felt nothing.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Well, I said to the man who felt nothing. You're wrong. You're incorrect.

[Langston Kerman]

You know what happened to me? I put it on, I went back and just listened to Virginia. I didn't even like. I listened to the first song and I was like, this is cool. And then I listened. I got like five or six. Cause it's not a very long album, right? It's not even an hour. I got like five or six in and I was like, no, ain't shit to do but cook. That's what I want right now. I don't want the new stuff at all. And I don't even feel bad about it. Damn. Yeah. And I loved the clips.

[Blakely Thornton]

I really liked it, man.

[Langston Kerman]

I was into it.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Really, I'm into it.

[Langston Kerman]

How many times do you listen to it?

[Blakely Thornton]

I've only listened to it like one and a half times.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay.

[Blakely Thornton]

I'm not giving it three.

[Langston Kerman]

Three's good.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Three.

[Langston Kerman]

Here's the thing. I'm not saying I hated it. I just didn't feel it. Just didn't feel. No way.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

What was the last time you felt something about an album? This might be a you problem.

[Langston Kerman]

Virginia. No.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

You know what it was?

[Blakely Thornton]

You know what it was for me is there was something really nice in the fact that malice is here.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Blakely Thornton]

Doing it. And you know, after Pusha says some wild shit, he'd be like, brother, we gotta pray on this.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Like this is.

[Blakely Thornton]

He's still struggling with the conflict in his head of like, he loves the Lord, but he also loves cocaine. And he gotta talk about both of those things.

[Langston Kerman]

I will say he is striking my balance. Well, because at the end of him rapping, you could feel he was on his way out. Right? Yeah. What's that? That Popeye song. That was just. He was just saying, like, Bible verse, remember? I remember listening to that song being like, this nigga. He does not.

[Blakely Thornton]

You know, they.

[Langston Kerman]

He don't like it anymore.

[Blakely Thornton]

But, you know, Pusha t wrote the McDonald's song.

[Langston Kerman]

I do know that. Ba ba, ba, ba ba. I'm loving it.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Oh, really? Pusha T with Pharrell, though, right?

[Langston Kerman]

I don't know.

[Blakely Thornton]

I don't know. But it's Justin Timberlake. Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah. Justin Timberlake had a full single, a McDonald's single. It was a full, like, I'm loving it song.

[Blakely Thornton]

It was a full song that they condensed that Pusha T wrote.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah.

[Blakely Thornton]

It's not just that line.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

There's a whole R and B song, like, circa, like, 2004. I didn't remember the fight era.

[Langston Kerman]

That's amazing.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah, that's.

[Langston Kerman]

Was it good?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I liked it.

[Blakely Thornton]

It was the best jingle I've ever heard. Like, jingle song jingle Number one. Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Number one of all time.

[Blakely Thornton]

It's not a good song, but it's.

[Langston Kerman]

Like a top jingle.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

It's like jingle. It's like album filler. But it's like a. It's like a. Yeah, that's okay. 7. The best song on an album.

[Langston Kerman]

On a just leg album, though. That's. Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Of 12 songs, that's pretty good.

[Blakely Thornton]

I want to be clear, I keep intro music for television shows separate from jingles.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Okay.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, you have to. Yeah. Because that's not.

[Blakely Thornton]

I just don't want any confusion where we're mixing the. Because I stand on Golden Girls being the finest song ever written over Family Matters.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Over.

[Blakely Thornton]

I put it in the Golden Girls, man.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Thank you for being a friend.

[Blakely Thornton]

That shit goes crazy.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah, I do like it.

[Langston Kerman]

I love.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I love.

[Langston Kerman]

It's a rare condition, though.

[Blakely Thornton]

I do. I love both. I love that you're putting me in a nasty selfie's choice.

[Langston Kerman]

You know who went hard that nobody ever talks about? Who went hard for white shows is. What's that show with Kirk Cameron and Robin Thick's Growing Pains? I like that show.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Growing Pains was New Life. Is that one.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

There you go. What am I singing? I don't know.

[Blakely Thornton]

Was yours Family Ties? Family Ties, I think.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yes.

[Blakely Thornton]

Michael J. Fox.

[Langston Kerman]

No.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

That's.

[Langston Kerman]

Who.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

That's.

[Blakely Thornton]

Who's the boss?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

That.

[Langston Kerman]

That's it. That is.

[Blakely Thornton]

That is good. That's not how I've heard it said.

[Langston Kerman]

No.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Who's the boss being?

[Blakely Thornton]

Fucks.

[Langston Kerman]

We get a new lingo going. This is great. That show was funny because it was just like one of Italian guys did women's work. Right. What if a man cleaned? This is crazy. His name's Tony.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Clean.

[Blakely Thornton]

That's really. It's amazing what you used to be able to make into television.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Blakely Thornton]

Now they like you ain't got a.

[Langston Kerman]

Third premise on this.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah.

[Blakely Thornton]

No.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

What are you saying about that laugh?

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah. Nothing.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I'm tired.

[Blakely Thornton]

You gonna clean and at some point they'll start.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Exactly. Then they get married and they go to Disneyland and somebody has drugs. At some point, there's a special episode.

[Langston Kerman]

Did somebody do drugs?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I think in every 80s comic, like, at one season, someone's offered marijuana by a guy who flashes them. Alano. It was a very special episode.

[Blakely Thornton]

In those older years, Alyssa Milano started doing sex.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Or if somebody drank at a party.

[Langston Kerman]

I thought it would have been the sexy grandma who was doing the coke on that show.

[Blakely Thornton]

Coke? I think. I think Alyssa.

[Langston Kerman]

No, that was a pun.

[Blakely Thornton]

I bet it was. Alyssa Milano got drunk at a party. And I bet the old sexy grandma was like, honey, it's fine. I used to do cocaine. I think she was such a honey.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I was in Studio 54. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Shut up, you little bitch.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

I used to cut rob Andy Warhol. Exactly, honey.

[Blakely Thornton]

I used to shoot up black tar.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Exactly. I used to snort heroin off of Rick James.

[Langston Kerman]

Dick. What have you done? You know how many times I've seen Debbie Harry's asshole? Three.

[Blakely Thornton]

That I liked.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Exactly. I saw Bianca Jericho ride a horse and a man in the same night at the club. Shut up.

[Blakely Thornton]

I think we could have written for the show. And I think. I think it's a shame you didn't hire us.

[Langston Kerman]

We'll get in on the reboot.

[Blakely Thornton]

We'll get in.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Is he still alive?

[Blakely Thornton]

Tony Danza.

[Langston Kerman]

I hate the. Why did that. That was crazy.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Look, white people be dying. I just want.

[Langston Kerman]

Mom.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I didn't know Barbara Walters was dead.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, wow. Really?

[Blakely Thornton]

No, I knew she was dead. I was surprised you didn't know.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Okay. Three years ago.

[Langston Kerman]

No, I didn't know that. That. She's a big one, though.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I posted that clip. 700 comments. Barbara Walters went to the glory like our people did not know.

[Blakely Thornton]

Damn.

[Langston Kerman]

Didn't.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Straight up. Yeah.

[Blakely Thornton]

Barbara up out of here, man. She's been gone for some time now.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah, three years.

[Langston Kerman]

Greatest speech impediment of all time.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I think I was up there.

[Langston Kerman]

Top tier.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Her.

[Blakely Thornton]

Tyson.

[Langston Kerman]

Tyson's up there.

[Blakely Thornton]

Who else we got?

[Langston Kerman]

Who talks Funny. And that's at the top.

[Blakely Thornton]

Ron Harper was big for me as a kid. I liked that he had a stutter.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I like the stutter, but I like more of. I like the wah, wah. Like, when you're talking about.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

How does she never correct that? Because many children have that. But they. You go on to get, like, a speech therapist.

[Blakely Thornton]

Well, she was before.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

By, like, second grade.

[Blakely Thornton]

She was before. Speech therapists exist.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

But I mean, yeah, because she was born in, like, the Great Depression.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

They didn't have.

[Langston Kerman]

They didn't have a term for it. They just said she was mouth crazy and she went to sleep.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

And then they put her in asylum for women.

[Langston Kerman]

We could do. She's a witch.

[Blakely Thornton]

We could do a libido.

[Langston Kerman]

But she got lobotomy. That's it.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Why did I say libido? I don't know. She had those pills.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, shoot.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

She was born a year after they stopped burning women at the stake.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Barely missed it.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I barely missed it.

[Blakely Thornton]

Barbara Walters got here just after Roots.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Just in time.

[Blakely Thornton]

Right after Roots, that bitch showed up.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

She had a nice life.

[Blakely Thornton]

She lived a long, beautiful life. Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

All right. Yeah, it was a good time.

[Blakely Thornton]

This has been really fun. We wasted quite a bit of it.

[Langston Kerman]

That's what usually happens.

[Blakely Thornton]

Our guest today, you. You've already heard his voice. You see his beautiful face. We're so happy you're here with us today.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Thank you for having me.

[Blakely Thornton]

You know him from the podcast yesterday. You know him as a pop culture anthropologist, a person who you go to for all the shit, the politics, the culture, the mess in between. This motherfucker is tapped in on all that shit, and he's the source of all cool things. Give it up for our guests, Mr. Blakely Thornton.

[Langston Kerman]

How did all of this trouble begin? Living in America.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Hello, hello, hello. That is how the trouble began with the slave ships and me. We are ancestors greatest dreams and white people's greatest nightmares.

[Blakely Thornton]

So that's beautiful, you know? Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

I don't think my ancestors would have ever thought about anything I'm doing.

[Blakely Thornton]

If you hear the stuff we say, I don't think our ancestors are going to be too pumped on it.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I always wanted to do a movie called Black to the Future, where, like, me and my white assistant go back in time and I just keep getting killed over and over because, like, all the things you have to learn be like, look at you, nigger. You're like, shut the. Start over. You just keep getting, like, two minutes further.

[Langston Kerman]

I like that because it's like, I.

[Blakely Thornton]

Think you should call it Day after after tomorrow.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Tomorrow. Yeah. Black to the future. Just keep going. Be like, what is this? Like, we used to, like, get killed for, like, looking at white women. I'd be like, what? I will, like, push a white bitch out of the street. Be like, it's Black History Month. And it's like, yeah, so I'd be dead ten times over in, like, a minute.

[Langston Kerman]

And you know how little we've progressed as a society is. I felt uncomfortable you saying that. I was looking around. He said, this nigga pushed her right with me.

[Blakely Thornton]

No, he's gonna come here.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm gay.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

No one's trying to fuck you, okay, Katie. With your fucking Kate Spade purse, you bitch. Anyway, bitch.

[Langston Kerman]

It feels good, Langston.

[Blakely Thornton]

You should do it anyway.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I'm just kidding. We love white women and love y'. All. Have fun.

[Blakely Thornton]

Enjoy yourself.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

You guys are okay. What if Paltrow's co. The rest of y' all up for debate?

[Blakely Thornton]

Blakely, we're happy you're here. You came to us with a conspiracy theory that I would say it's got a heavier. It's got a heavier hand on it.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I mean, I don't think it's a conspiracy.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah. I think there's a fair amount of validity to it. You said, my mama told me the welfare system was created to keep black men out of the home.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yes.

[Langston Kerman]

God damn.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Well, one. Everything post 13th amendment is kind of designed to keep black men out of the home and kind of has been admitted by several Republicans since. So, you know, you have the freedom of the slaves, but then you put in a system that allows you to do prison work for free, which is just a promulgation of it. Now we have privatized prisons.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

And then I think the rules surrounding welfare systems were designed to keep black men out of households where you look at the technicalities at the federal and state level where, like, if you have a man in the household not working, you're not. You can't have it. So I think it's just by system. It's just kind of like a death by a thousand paper cuts of keeping black family units separated. Because we've seen what happens when black people start to thrive, I. E. Tulsa. So, no.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. No, fuck white.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

It's easier just to keep them out of the. The house than to have to, like, you know, destroy towns and then pretend you didn't do it.

[Blakely Thornton]

Sure, sure, sure.

[Langston Kerman]

By that, I laugh because it hurts so much.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

We're laughing because it's true.

[Blakely Thornton]

By that logic, you're saying that Tulsa is harder to pull off a second time.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Exactly.

[Blakely Thornton]

A person to person war is much.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Easier if you can keep people crippled at a microcosm. You don't have to deal with the macroeconomic of black people collecting and gaining strength and building their own systems. So it's like if you can stop them from even making the progress to begin with, then you don't have to deal with doing the overt. Very hard to cover up. Very hard to explain away generationally.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Crimes of what's going on. It's like when you see like Jerry Jones in that picture, like protesting integration. Yeah, it was.

[Blakely Thornton]

He claimed he was just looking.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, he was just hanging out.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I mean, I honestly had the picture in my phone. He was doing more than looking this, you know, it's like you can't explain. It would just be easier if the black people never tried to go to the school.

[Langston Kerman]

You know, Jerry Jones is like, I'm going to graduate from this college. I'm going to start buying and selling them again. And NFL hours make this work.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

He's making it work for him. The NFL is modern. Chattel savery.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, yeah.

[Blakely Thornton]

The problem is I don't like yelling at him personally, but I wouldn't mind paying a man to yell at him.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Exactly.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. I don't want to touch one. Oh, man.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I went to a. I was a tennis teacher at a country club.

[Langston Kerman]

Wow, are you a tennis pro?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I played competitively from like 10 to 17.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay, so that's like juniors.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah, I was like, ranked in Texas, and then I was gonna go to a school in Florida, an IMG academy. And I was like, oh, these kids are broken.

[Langston Kerman]

You were gonna go to img? That's like a major. That's a major program.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Cause it's like, if you wanna get a college scholarship, a lot of kids go to img or they go to like Newcomb's and Austin. But then you see kids that are actually just. Just. What's it called? Dedicated to that. At like 11, 12, 13. They're really fucking weird people. So I was like, I'd rather go to school with like normal teenagers. And I switched to playing football my junior year of high school and I played in college.

[Langston Kerman]

You started playing football junior year of high school and went to college?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I played once. I played in like seventh grade because everybody did. But then I stopped because I played tennis. And then I was like, well, I want to go to an Ivy League school. And I got a C in Spanish. And I figured I'm faster than these White kids. So I played football.

[Langston Kerman]

That's great.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I was a little sociopath, but it worked.

[Langston Kerman]

No, you seem like a dragon.

[Blakely Thornton]

But we've talked about that a lot in terms of comedy, that they're like, to be successful in certain spaces, you do have to have a little bit of that crazy.

[Langston Kerman]

Definitely. Definitely. You have to be nuts. It's not.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

There's a deep sadness to comics.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Who are you telling, bro?

[Blakely Thornton]

I think any person who truly wants to be great at something has to become sad to the point of their dedication.

[Langston Kerman]

Agree.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah. There we go. The king of.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Not a functional human being, not a functionality.

[Langston Kerman]

Very few functional human beings.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Honestly, that picture of Oprah and Michael Jackson is fucking sending me. Yeah. The salt and pepper of dysfunction.

[Blakely Thornton]

That's just two fine sick people.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

That's just two. That's just two fine sisters out of town picking up men.

[Langston Kerman]

Look at the hope in their eyes, though.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

You see hope in his eyes.

[Langston Kerman]

I feel like in 1992, Michael Jackson felt unkillable.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

You see hope.

[Langston Kerman]

They bleached my eyes. I think he was that big.

[Blakely Thornton]

I actually fully disagree. I think absolutely he was that big, but I think he had reached a big. That there was nothing above it. And I don't think that that leaves hope in your eyes.

[Langston Kerman]

I don't know. Maybe hope is not what I'm thinking.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Maybe it's life. He might be like, yeah, maybe it's just that he's alive. Blakely's like, he's dead.

[Blakely Thornton]

He's not hoping that he's dead.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Maybe it's just that he's not dead yet in that photo.

[Langston Kerman]

No. I do feel like there is that satisfaction of feeling unkillable, at least for two, three years that he probably had.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

What year is that? Because that's.

[Langston Kerman]

This feels like 91, 92.

[Blakely Thornton]

This is Oprah 1.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

That's like 89. 92.

[Langston Kerman]

This is like dangerous or dangerous era.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

That's like pre first Weight Watchers, Oprah.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

But post this is.

[Blakely Thornton]

This is.

[Langston Kerman]

She's a big thing. Post bad, right? This is dangerous.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I say dangerous or bad.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay. Yeah. Cause when did Oprah get huge?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Leave me alone. Yeah, that's. That era.

[Langston Kerman]

Is that bad?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

That's dangerous.

[Blakely Thornton]

That's dangerous.

[Langston Kerman]

I thought dangerous was like, Liberian Girl.

[Blakely Thornton]

I think that's Liberian Girl's a deep cut.

[Langston Kerman]

Also, Keep it in the Closet. Love that song.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Also, what was the one with Naomi Campbell in the video?

[Langston Kerman]

That's Liberian Girl.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

That's Liberian Girl.

[Blakely Thornton]

No, that's Keep it in the Closet.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, that is A keep. It's black and white. The video is black and white, right?

[Blakely Thornton]

Yes.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah.

[Blakely Thornton]

That's the funniest video I've ever witnessed.

[Langston Kerman]

It's so funny watching him in horny videos because he still just never believed it.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

No, I think it's what. No, no, no.

[Blakely Thornton]

I think it's what made it almost like hornier was like, it was a man trying to prove that he was horny.

[Langston Kerman]

And then.

[Blakely Thornton]

And so she had to, like, show more pussy just to make up for.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Kim was doing a lot in that she was doing the absolute most.

[Blakely Thornton]

She's like, just don't look over there.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Getting nothing in return.

[Blakely Thornton]

No.

[Langston Kerman]

Because when he talks to him, it's like. Do you remember the. What's the video where he's following the woman, just, like, yelling at her.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yes.

[Langston Kerman]

Uh, Fucking.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

That's not py.

[Langston Kerman]

The way you make me feel. The way you make me feel.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Which was just stalking.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. He's just on the street, like, who?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I love the 90s. The 90s are just men committing crimes. And it being like, that's romantic.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Follow a girl home, man sounds in her ear.

[Blakely Thornton]

At one point, she literally, like, walks around a car, and then he climbs through the windows or yells.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Or Thriller. Or a thriller where he just basically turns into a zombie and. And kills her.

[Langston Kerman]

That's what's implied at the end.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Right.

[Blakely Thornton]

And then he smiles at us like.

[Langston Kerman]

Mother, kill this bitch.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

We murked this hoe.

[Langston Kerman]

Stupid bitch. We got her.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

We got her. Black women. I feel bad for y'. All.

[Langston Kerman]

Damn king of pop music, you know?

[Blakely Thornton]

The king of pop music.

[Langston Kerman]

So.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yes.

[Langston Kerman]

Welfare.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

So welfare.

[Blakely Thornton]

With this question of welfare.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yes.

[Blakely Thornton]

This is something you obviously have some knowledge about.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah.

[Blakely Thornton]

Do you feel like this is something that we all accept as fact, or is this known? Well, in the circles you run in.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I think in the circles I run in just. Cause my parents were very politically active in the 80s and 90s when I was little. And then that was coming off of Reaganomics and the whole idea of the welfare queen and the examples that Reagan would make about specifically black women scamming this system that had. Especially in tandem with civil rights. So I think the idea of the welfare queen. Well, creating more examples of people on welfare during the time when black people were integrating schools, getting into jobs. It wasn't cool in the culture to be openly racist anymore. Although that's coming back.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I'd say it's back.

[Blakely Thornton]

It's pretty cool.

[Langston Kerman]

I think it's pretty cool.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I think it's not, in a way.

[Blakely Thornton]

That I think is cool.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

But I miss racism. Original recipe. Because, like, like, show your face, coward. If you're wearing a mask, you kind of ultimately know you're wrong.

[Langston Kerman]

Right?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Like, be proud.

[Langston Kerman]

Be proud.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Be a proud boy. Proud boy.

[Langston Kerman]

I will say I do, like, blatantly racist people more than, like, when they do that. I think that's what happens, especially within, like, liberal circles a lot, where they do this kind of like the dance dirty game of, like, it's gaslighting, vandalizing you and shit like that, where it's like, yo, you don't even think I'm a person.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

No.

[Langston Kerman]

At least this redneck, he's scared enough to have a gun, right?

[Blakely Thornton]

That video where that man's calling that lady a nigger wearing the Burger King crown on the flight.

[Langston Kerman]

I've seen that.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

It's wild.

[Blakely Thornton]

You guys haven't. You've seen it. It's the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. Because he's just so crazy and just being vile in a way that, like, you don't get to see anymore. Like, people don't just show who they are in a raw way anymore. It really. I mean, I think they do.

[Langston Kerman]

It's just hidden under. It's hidden.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

It's like, yeah, it's like you want to walk around in a mass screaming. It's like, for why, my guy?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Don't you want us to know you hate. We hate you. They hate us.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Then we can just stay away from each other.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Blakely Thornton]

Why?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Because also because nowadays racist whites, they want to listen to rap music. That's the cognitive dissonance that fucks me up. Or y' all want to, like, use aave. Be like, I'm clapping back.

[Langston Kerman]

You know?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Clap back is a Ja Rule song. You're quoting Ja Rule. Let's get it going. Using the N word. Like, every time I see, like, people.com be like, Jennifer Lawrence claps back. No, she didn't. Shut the fuck up. Clap back means you're killing somebody in a drug ward.

[Langston Kerman]

I don't think she claps much of anything. I'll say it.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Jennifer Lawrence.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Blakely Thornton]

She used to have a donkey back there.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

She has two babies.

[Langston Kerman]

She had a donkey back there.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

She's clearly clapping something. She has two children.

[Langston Kerman]

It was clapping.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I mean, I don't know. Heterosexual sex is of no interest to me, so I'm not sure.

[Blakely Thornton]

And that's fair.

[Langston Kerman]

That's fair.

[Blakely Thornton]

That's fair.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

That's fair. You guys are gross.

[Blakely Thornton]

I don't like the way you're saying it.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I don't love it. Your sex results in babies.

[Langston Kerman]

For some reason, quite frankly, I'm interested in what you guys are doing. Y' all could do it too.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

If you were all having butt sex would be a lot less. Children. I'm just gonna say that.

[Blakely Thornton]

I respect what you got going. I'd ask you to respect what we've got.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I will not.

[Blakely Thornton]

All right.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I will not.

[Langston Kerman]

Fair enough.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Can't, shant won't.

[Langston Kerman]

I appreciate the frequency at which you guys are operating for. Sure, right?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

We're already doing it. That's what we gotta have. Also, we were talking about this on the podcast, too. I have to have a gay doctor. Cause when you tell straight doctors what you they're judgy. I had a doctor tell me. I had a doctor tell me I didn't respect myself. And I was like, you're a dumb virgin who can't drive.

[Blakely Thornton]

Whoa.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I was like, you're a prude bitch, and I never want to see you again.

[Langston Kerman]

That's pretty cool.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I was like, how dare you? I was like, you got into it at the top. I'm taking my things. Damn. I will be taking this Lacroix.

[Langston Kerman]

That's nuts. That's nuts. Male, female, female. And she was like.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

She said, I don't respect my body. I was like, you're not my therapist, Heather. First of all, damn, swab my butt, tell me what's wrong, and give me some medicine. Do I have a hernia or not?

[Blakely Thornton]

I love the idea of storming out with the same problem in your butt.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

First of all, Heather, this is not what my CO pay is for.

[Blakely Thornton]

I'll be taking my itch elsewhere.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Exactly. If you're not going to give me antibiotics in a lollipop, someone else will.

[Blakely Thornton]

You're not better than me.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Exactly. I know your husband. Your husband's at the clubs I'm at. Guess what? Denial is a river in Egypt. Your husband is gay, man. Her husband was dead. You really make it feel that was wrong.

[Langston Kerman]

Sometimes talking to you, it makes it feel like I've never been to the doctor.

[Blakely Thornton]

I've never had an honest conversation with my daughter.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Oh, no, Truly.

[Blakely Thornton]

Honestly.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Especially depending on what time of year it is. And it's like, what drugs have you done? How many partners have you had? I'm like, yeah, hold on.

[Langston Kerman]

Your drugs change from the time of year? Is it like you have drugs you don't do when it's hot out? Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Cause, yeah, it's like. I mean, it's like if you're at A festival. You do like shrooms or molly. Also, if you're in like Ibiza or Paris, the drugs are different. They have a whole different category of drugs there. If you go into like boiler rooms, that's different.

[Langston Kerman]

No drugs in Paris. I smoke hash.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

What? What were you doing? Sleeping.

[Langston Kerman]

Just charmed by the beautiful city being charmed. I was just walking around. Oh, I did smoke weed. I did smoke weed. I was like, what did you. I brought. But it was like that. I brought weed.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Did you go to like Fat de la music or any of that?

[Langston Kerman]

I went to the Louvre for six hours by myself. So you were high? Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Okay.

[Langston Kerman]

Then you said, what are you talking about? It was one of the best days.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Of my life, honestly, being in a Paris museum. High. Go to. Next time go to Musset d', Orsay, the old train station. It's got all. It's like six floors of art. It's almost like a science place. They cut the pillai in half and you can see how the opera works. But on a ten foot model of it.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I love that they have all.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Kinds of African art statues. It'll honestly make. It'll activate your black rage around floor four. Cause it's.

[Langston Kerman]

Europe does do that to me after a bit where you're like, wait, fuck them.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

You're like, wait, why is every black man in the statue got chains on and like fighting an alligator?

[Langston Kerman]

And hey, I was. What is this?

[Blakely Thornton]

I'll say this. If you boys want to learn anything about Maywood, Illinois, you ask me questions.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Where is Maywood, Illinois? For starters?

[Blakely Thornton]

Suburban Chicago.

[Langston Kerman]

I assume it's in the land area.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

My mom's from Chicago. She went to Lynn Bloom High.

[Blakely Thornton]

Okay.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

In the south side.

[Blakely Thornton]

Okay. Hell yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

My sister lived there for a while.

[Blakely Thornton]

That's Beautiful.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

In South 8th and Michigan.

[Blakely Thornton]

Do you come from a conspiratorial background? Do you consider yourself a conspiracy theorist?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

No, but I consider myself inquisitive. And I feel like a lot of what is taught to us as American history, as a black person, you end up learning is propaganda. So I feel like conspiracy is usually when white people use it, a euphemism for like, truth telling in some capacity. Like, I'm not like, I'm not like a Pizzagate person, or like I'm not like a Terrence Howard two plus two is I've invented math person. Yeah.

[Blakely Thornton]

Be careful now.

[Langston Kerman]

Come on.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

That's your man.

[Langston Kerman]

That's our guy.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Maybe I should leave. That's our guy.

[Langston Kerman]

He called. He take a bullet for that man. No, I Was like, you take a bullet for Terrence Howard, I'll take a.

[Blakely Thornton]

Bullet to talk to him and then regret my choice.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Okay.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay. You would take a bullet to talk to him.

[Blakely Thornton]

If we could get him in, I think.

[Langston Kerman]

I think he called in once.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

And what did he have to say?

[Blakely Thornton]

Nothing good.

[Langston Kerman]

Hello? Me and Lexi caught Our lives we're about to change. Nothing really happened.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Nothing really happened.

[Langston Kerman]

But he wanted us to change the poster.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Oh, really?

[Blakely Thornton]

No, he didn't care. To his credit, he didn't care about changing that poster.

[Langston Kerman]

He said it should say.

[Blakely Thornton]

He said it should say this, but. But Brandon T. Jackson, who was our liaison, cared deeply about that. Because it's proprietary, he said. And he did say that word. He wants that to be a massive income for him.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

The posters.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah, posters like that.

[Langston Kerman]

Or T shirts, I think let's say.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I have 97 patents.

[Langston Kerman]

Well, he wants to know.

[Blakely Thornton]

He said 99. Oh, he said 99 because he recognizes that he, in fact, has far more patents than. Than 99. But he's willing to say 99 because of the joke. But then he wants it to say, but fake math ain't one. Because he's the real math, not the fake math. Ok, your rebuttal.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Ok. Two plus two is four, Terrence. So, you know.

[Blakely Thornton]

Well, it's one times one is two.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I went to kindergarten and I'm good.

[Langston Kerman]

That's his big point. Is the one times one is two.

[Blakely Thornton]

But it's the beginning of the conversation. Absolutely.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

And the end of it, really. If I were involved.

[Blakely Thornton]

If you guys are gonna have a nasty attitude, this won't continue.

[Langston Kerman]

No, I'm excited. You know, I love Terrence.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I loved him in Empire.

[Langston Kerman]

I did, too. You know, I really had fun watching Empire.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I gotta put me first. Lucius gotta put me first.

[Langston Kerman]

I loved him. And all those talented Smollett kids.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

They're great.

[Langston Kerman]

They really could do that.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

They're great. I met Jurnee Smollett in Paris also.

[Langston Kerman]

Really?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yes. I went to the Louis Vuitton show with Cynthia Erivo and every fabulous black woman that I'd ever met in the world was there.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I believe that.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

It was like Ava DuVernay, Zendaya, Cynthia Erivo, Jurnie Smollett, Ryan Destiny.

[Langston Kerman]

And this is just like on a Wednesday.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I mean.

[Langston Kerman]

Cause I walked out front of the Louis Vuitton store in Paris. Nobody was there.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Well, it was a fashion show. Cause Cynthia was a face.

[Langston Kerman]

I thought you were just in there.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I went to the store. That was one crazy day. Because I remember Zendaya Was like. It was like Zendaya, you know, Zendaya's got home training. Cause she came up and it was like all the black women. And she was like, nice to meet. She goes, nice to see you again. I was like, you've never met me, but I love that you're like, it's black. He went to black people. We probably met like black men.

[Blakely Thornton]

I bet she doesn't say meet you to any single person.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Anyone, Anyone. She probably says, see you.

[Blakely Thornton]

I think that is a machine smart. That will never make an error.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

No.

[Blakely Thornton]

As long as.

[Langston Kerman]

No. She's kind of perfect.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Like. Like for what she does is perfect.

[Blakely Thornton]

Nah, she's never.

[Langston Kerman]

I think she's unfatable.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

She's not playing. She's not playing. She's Teflon Don right now.

[Langston Kerman]

Honestly, though, I used to feel that way about a lot of people who have been unraveling at the end.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Main one is unraveling Will Smith, but he's brother.

[Langston Kerman]

He was perfect.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I kind of like that he hit Chris Rock.

[Langston Kerman]

That's the best thing of all this. Yeah, that's not what I'm talking about.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I don't think that's the unraveling. What is the unraveling to you guys?

[Langston Kerman]

I like pretty girls. Girls, girls.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Oh, that new. Oh, I just. I blocked that out.

[Langston Kerman]

All the freestyles, I think.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I think I've honestly been blocking.

[Blakely Thornton]

I think everything from.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I was like, what do you mean, guys?

[Langston Kerman]

I think.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

That is how I'm I people. When you mention new album, I'm just like my brand. I just delete.

[Langston Kerman]

I moved to trash Fire.

[Blakely Thornton]

I think everything. I think the slap was the eye of the storm. I think everything before that, the red table all the way up to the slap was a nightmare to watch.

[Langston Kerman]

It was the red table top. Oh, man, that was hard.

[Blakely Thornton]

That was hard, dog.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I feel like if more straight couples got with the whole, like, look, we get to fuck other people sometimes. We are each other's emotional number one. We're building a life together. That's what we're doing. I think, like, I mean, basically almost every gay married couple is out here fucking other people.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah, but they didn't do it like you're describing. They did it where they exposed dirt that meant something to the public in a. In a jarring way.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

But again, it didn't mean anything to me.

[Langston Kerman]

Well, well, Blakely. Blakely.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Why? What meant something? What do you want, Isaac?

[Langston Kerman]

You just have stuff.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

You want us to grow the fuck up?

[Langston Kerman]

You want us to poke dudes? You want Us yell at doctors.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

You want us to not be a gay person.

[Blakely Thornton]

You want us to not give a shit that Will Smith unraveled in front of us.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Exactly.

[Langston Kerman]

Let's go.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Go. Let it go. A butt punch your doctor?

[Blakely Thornton]

No.

[Langston Kerman]

You might be the wildest.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Don't have children. He's like, I'm not even going to entertain you.

[Langston Kerman]

Drugs in Paris.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Nothing is wrong. I have a wife, I have kids.

[Blakely Thornton]

And, like, abandon them all.

[Langston Kerman]

Not abandon them is such a crazy way to live. Your life is awesome.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

That's the gay way to live a life.

[Langston Kerman]

All gay guys are punching doctors emotionally.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Emotionally, Even that emotionally. Every gay man is called the doctor a bitch. Here's to her face.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay, here's the problem.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Facts fight me.

[Langston Kerman]

I text the four gay guys whose phone numbers I have. Hey, man, Solomon, have you ever called.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Your doctor a bitch?

[Langston Kerman]

We lived together for a while.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

You're an ugly virgin who can't drive.

[Blakely Thornton]

That's crazy.

[Langston Kerman]

That's awesome.

[Blakely Thornton]

That's crazy.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

You don't work together anymore.

[Langston Kerman]

I get that.

[Blakely Thornton]

Here's my promise to you.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yes, I'm not gonna fuck a butt, okay?

[Blakely Thornton]

But I will try my best to punch a doctor at some point in the day.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah, just, like, call.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm with that.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Just like, insult a doctor. Insult a white doctor, man.

[Blakely Thornton]

Do you know?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Or just question them constantly? Like, do you know what you're doing? Where'd you go to school? Just gaslight them.

[Langston Kerman]

I do want it to gaslight them.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Gaslight a white doctor.

[Langston Kerman]

Cause it always feels like it's the reverse. It really is.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Are you hurt?

[Langston Kerman]

Fat and dark skinned. They don't be listening. See what I'm saying, nigga? I'm like, I hur bad. They're like, we'll probably just take some more pictures of it. Get out of here.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Like, that's fine.

[Langston Kerman]

What'd you do, stub your toe playing basketball?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

It's cool. Can you still sling that rock, bro? Basketball or crack?

[Langston Kerman]

Bro that shit. Yeah, I fucking man. I do be hating going to the doctor, man.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

That shit's for real. Like, unless you were physically bleeding out.

[Langston Kerman]

They're like, yeah, you're cool. I never have gotten real, like, pain pills in a major way. Really? Even when I got my wisdom teeth pulled, My stepdad went to the same exact doctor at the same time. And I got like 10 pills and he got, like, refills.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I woke up during the surgery and they tried to charge me for having to redo the anesthesia.

[Blakely Thornton]

Holy shit.

[Langston Kerman]

You know what? Fuck white women. Exactly.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Gaslight a white Doctor. Cause you know what, guys? You're not doing a good job. You're doing a shitty job. All of you are doing a shitty job. You suck.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm gonna suck?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

You almost killed Serena Williams.

[Blakely Thornton]

We need to take a break. I think things have lost control. I think some nasty things are being said about some fine folks.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Nasty. Accurate.

[Blakely Thornton]

No, no. We agree. White doctors. Stop it. That said, we're gonna take a break, we're gonna come back and we'll talk more.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

More.

[Blakely Thornton]

Blakely Thornton.

[Langston Kerman]

More Moment.

[Blakely Thornton]

Mama told me.

[David Bore]

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[John Lithgow]

Hello, I'm John Lithgow.

[Blakely Thornton]

We choose to go to the moon.

[John Lithgow]

I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast, that's One Small Step for Man. It's about Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space.

[Blakely Thornton]

You're a great pilot, Buzz. As far as I'm concerned, the best I've seen.

[John Lithgow]

That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't predisposition.

[David Bore]

To depression, alcohol abuse and suicide.

[John Lithgow]

We'll see Buzz try to overcome demons.

[Buzz Aldrin]

What do you say, Buzz? Another beer.

[John Lithgow]

And triumph over addiction.

[Blakely Thornton]

Here's to you, Buzz Aldrin.

[Langston Kerman]

Good luck to you.

[John Lithgow]

And because become a true hero, Buzz.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

And I will proceed into the lunar.

[John Lithgow]

Module not because he conquers space, but because he conquers himself.

[Langston Kerman]

Buzz, we intercepted a Soviet radio transmission.

[John Lithgow]

Starring me, John Lithgow.

[Langston Kerman]

Can you put it through?

[John Lithgow]

Can you Translate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Columbia.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

It's the biggest party of the summer. WWE SummerSlam is here. And RA wrestling with Freddy is all over it. We're talking wild matches, big surprises, and our boldest predictions yet. From celebrity showdowns to the chaos inside a steel cage, we're breaking down every match and calling who we think walks out on top. This card is loaded. From Cody Rhodes, John Cena, Rhea, Ripley and Tiffy, just to name a few. This lineup is ready to tear down the house. We'll give you our unfiltered takes, honest debates, and you already know, a ton of laughter along the way. We're covering the upsets, the wild returns, and the championship moments. Nobody expects. We'll get into the matches that steal the show, the storylines that explode, and those, oh, my God, did that just happen? Moments that make SummerSlam legendary. Don't miss it. Listen to Wrestling with Freddy as part of the Mike Podcast Network. Find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Buzz Aldrin]

What's up, guys? Welcome to Agusto Papa, the go to spot for everything. Musica Mexicana. We're proud Mexican Americans who live and breathe this music. We started this podcast to share and discuss our views on musica mexicana. Whether you like Peso Pluma, Los Alegres del Barranco, Ariel Camacho, or Ivan Cornejo, when you get in your fields, then this podcast is for you. We deep dive into music reviews.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

First of all, my show last year, everything was a 10 out of 10.

[Buzz Aldrin]

Fashion and lifestyle inspired by the roots of musica mexicana, the craziest controversies and Cheesemans.

[Blakely Thornton]

I don't have nothing against Puerto, you.

[Langston Kerman]

Know, and I don't think Joe Peach should be mad.

[Buzz Aldrin]

I mean, song and artist comparisons, competition in the scene. There is competition, there is sides to this. There's special Pluma, Double P and there's J Street Mob. I think at the end of the day, it's business. It's all competition. And of course, our personal stories and opinions along the way. This isn't just a podcast. It's a movement for fans who live musica Mexicana every single day. Listen to Augusto Papa as part of the Michael Tura Podcast Network on the.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Langston Kerman]

Yes, we, we.

[Blakely Thornton]

We are still talking about welfare and whether or not it is a. It was created. The entire system, in fact, was created to keep black men out of the home. Now, I did some research on the subject that I'd love to send your way. And y' all feel free to tell me what makes sense and what doesn't.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Cause I am. I do want to say Just to ask about. Because of the size of welfare and because it's such a classist thing. Do you feel like the entire. Are you saying that the entire program was specifically. No, it was retooled after its formation. Directly targeted.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Cause I believe the inception was after, like the Great Depression to kind of help families and give a social safety net for everybody. I believe it was weaponized post civil rights and primarily by the Reagan administration with the development of the term welfare queen to then promote the idea of black women gaming the system while their men were not there. So I think in tandem with probably aggressive policing and other laws like the marketing of welfare was designed to present an image of a black man not being in the home as standard.

[Blakely Thornton]

Well, here's what I'll tell you. That is true, but it isn't limited to the Reagan era of this. So the welfare system, as you, as you explained, starts post Great Depression. Our boy Franklin D. Roosevelt shows up and he's like, I'm gonna retool the whole.

[Langston Kerman]

Is it a New Deal?

[Blakely Thornton]

It's 1936, so it's pre New Deal, or I don't know. I'm not a historian and I'm not gonna look it up.

[Langston Kerman]

I was honestly scared to say New Deal. I was like, man, if this show is in the 80s, I'm about to feel like 80s.

[Blakely Thornton]

I think one way or the other. He goes. Because the support system that previously existed was state specific and local before that. So it was a bunch of groups being like, we'll just take care of our own. But then when the industrial revolution happens, people move to cities, they stop being able to just take care of their own because of how the numbers grow.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

The number of people.

[Blakely Thornton]

Exactly. And so they start counting on the states. But the states are allotting money and basically being like, this is emergency on. You can't touch this shit unless you really for real, for real need it. And then it isn't until the wake of the Great Depression where everybody needs it and no state can help, that the national government, the federal government comes in, hey, we gotta help. And they create a system that is ultimately welfare. Now here's where it gets interesting is that part of that ultimatum that they created for welfare was employment. You had to be. Either you had to have a job or you had to be working towards the job. But because black people were specifically forced into jobs where they were largely being paid in cash and off the books, they had no way of demonstrating that they had work. And then there was an intentional effort to keep them an active effort to keep them in that way so that they could not then be like, I am.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I haven't qualified for this.

[Blakely Thornton]

Right.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah.

[Blakely Thornton]

So then this is where it gets even nastier. Is that part of the propaganda that they spend is that they go, they're obsessed with welfare. They can't get enough of welfare. All the while these motherfuckers can't even get on welfare.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah.

[Blakely Thornton]

Because they ain't got the jobs.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah.

[Blakely Thornton]

It's nasty work.

[Langston Kerman]

So nasty, bro.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

It's targeted.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah. They're like, look at these thirsty motherfuckers taking up all your dollars and dimes and they can't even access this shit.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. And black people have never been like the majority of welfare recipients.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

No.

[Langston Kerman]

It's always been white people.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah. It's not even close.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

No, I don't think so at all.

[Blakely Thornton]

No.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

So again, you know, the propaganda of it all is a bitch. I really don't like it, I think. But again, I think it's promoted to keep that idea in white people's heads almost more so than actually keep black people out of homes. I think that's more just like the traditional racial profiling, killing black men and, you know, keeping them unemployed thing, the more direct methods. And then this, I think the idea of welfare and of the welfare queeness essentially was the idea to keep the idea that like the black home is broken, like there's no black man. And I think that's very powerful because when we see that as standard, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. 100%, you know, definitely.

[Blakely Thornton]

Truly. I think so much about like the early transitions of like a post slavery race or like after slavery, the best thing that they could come up with as propaganda for how to pitch black people as like, not good was to say we were lazy. Right now we're not slaves now.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

We're lazy as fuck.

[Blakely Thornton]

We're fucking. Everybody's a coon who's sitting around eating watermelon, lazing around, whatever. Then that version of propaganda starts to not work the way they want it to because of changes in voting, changes in opportunities in the country, whatever. So they amp it up and they go, these motherfuckers. Motherfuckers violent. Yeah, yeah, they crazy. They all got switchblades in their pockets and shit.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I do carry a switchblade.

[Blakely Thornton]

Okay.

[Langston Kerman]

I believe that. I also could see you being a gun guy, and that's no disrespect.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

No, no, I'm not a gun guy. My family, I mean, we're Texan. I'm very much Anti gun. But like, I don't like them. I've shot one a couple times at a range. But my sister, like, there was a somebody, they went to a ranch for a girl's 16th birthday. They were just like shooting machine guns. My sister was like, G.I. jane. I was like, oh. She was like, do, do, do, do, do, do do like swat. I was like, okay. So my family is quick with a gun. I think they're good with one. I'm more of like an up close and stab person.

[Langston Kerman]

You like it. You like it to be intimate?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah, intimate. Personal.

[Langston Kerman]

It is personal.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

If you kill someone, I wanna like, see the light go out in your eyes.

[Langston Kerman]

Wow. I've always said it feels a lot more violent to slash than it does to pull a trigger, right. To like slash, you gotta want it. That's so violent. That's disgusting. It's nasty.

[Blakely Thornton]

Now, switchblade. That is slashing almost exclusively. You don't stab bellies with switchblade.

[Langston Kerman]

I mean, I think you can sl.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Switchblade.

[Blakely Thornton]

Okay.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. I think you can have like a mixed green salad.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah. Or like, you know, like, you know how, like you like chop ice? Like, yeah, sure.

[Langston Kerman]

Like that. Do you ever.

[Blakely Thornton]

I didn't like you doing that so close to me.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

We're like, you know, you know, hey, take it easy.

[Langston Kerman]

You prepare dinner, you know, you know.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

You do that and then you just. You ever do that to the ice and then just watch the ice bleed out on the street?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. No. We all just want to feel something at the end of the day.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Everybody does that.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, everybody's for ice. We just want to feel.

[Blakely Thornton]

We just want to feel is a beautiful, beautiful way to put it. Before we take another break, let me ask you this question as you think about all of this stuff, because this is obviously a very heavy subject and doesn't leave a lot of hope, at least in my mind. It reminds me, frankly, a lot of our current, which I think is important to say it is the exact problem that we are facing down with healthcare.

[Langston Kerman]

Right.

[Blakely Thornton]

That like government funded healthcare is now about to be put behind this weird wall where people are gonna have to like, basically write in to explain what they do for a living and how they. How they made money in order to qualify for Medicare, Medicaid. And in doing that, you're putting a bunch of people in a position where either they can't justify making money money or they aren't able to write you because they don't have access to computers and don't understand the timing.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

That's all by design too.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

You know, I feel like if you, if you.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, you talk about in the bbb.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah. Part of the big beautiful bill.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. They got that design. They got that.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

It's all about it.

[Langston Kerman]

That's why people like after primaries, everything's going away.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah. I'm like, yeah, that's what they said they were going to do. They want us. They want you. Like, like stupid, hungry, misinformed and sick. Like, it's easier to. An uneducated populace is easily controlled and an uneducated populace that is sick is even easier. So it's like, I think the through line that's kind of the silver lining is when you do these things before you didn't. Like, even though the Internet is probably net, like chaotic neutral, we can see in other countries that healthcare is just a right. Like people just get taken care of. Like my friends that aren't from here. It's cheaper for them to fly home first class to go to the doctor. Like, my friend's from Japan. She's like, she had to get a knee surgery. She flew to Japan. A first class ticket and hotel was cheaper than the option of getting surgery in America.

[Blakely Thornton]

Crazy.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

And I'm just like, I think seeing that before you could have kept people kind of isolated. But now it's like you can see what's happening in other parts of the country and other parts of the world, which I think will ultimately be of benefit. I think Martin Luther King said it like. Like the moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends towards justice. Like, I'm still waiting for that justice bend to come, you know. Shorty, swing my way, you're the.

[Blakely Thornton]

You're the first person.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Justice. Swing my way, you're the first person.

[Blakely Thornton]

I've ever seen quote Dr. King while rolling their eyes immediately. I don't know, this motherfucker said something like that.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Says some shit.

[Langston Kerman]

I think you're also the first person to pair Dr. King with. I don't know what the fuck just happened.

[Blakely Thornton]

Oh my God.

[Langston Kerman]

I was gonna say a KP and Envy quote and then it, you know.

[Blakely Thornton]

Nah, it would have been great.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Yeah. I really like that song.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

It's a great song.

[Langston Kerman]

It's really good. What happened to them?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Probably drugs.

[Langston Kerman]

Ah, there was a white one.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

She was really light skinned. I watched a video the other day.

[Langston Kerman]

Really? She was drunk. H. Is that Haley Steinfeld?

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Is that the girl from Sinners? Was the girl from Sinners and sh. Swing. I know that a sister.

[Blakely Thornton]

All right, we should take one more break. Then we're going to come back and we're going to do a voicemail together.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Okay?

[Blakely Thornton]

All right. More blankly Thorton. More My mama told me.

[David Bore]

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[John Lithgow]

Hello, I'm John Lithgow.

[Blakely Thornton]

We choose to go to the moon.

[John Lithgow]

I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast.

[Langston Kerman]

That's One Small Step for Man.

[John Lithgow]

It's about Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers. Pioneers of space.

[Blakely Thornton]

You're a great pilot, Buzz. As far as I'm concerned, the best I've seen.

[John Lithgow]

That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't predisposition.

[David Bore]

To depression, alcohol abuse and suicide.

[John Lithgow]

We'll see Buzz try to overcome demons.

[Buzz Aldrin]

What do you say, Buzz? Another beer.

[John Lithgow]

And triumph over addiction.

[Blakely Thornton]

Here's to you, Buzz Aldrin.

[John Lithgow]

Good luck to you and become a true hero.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

Buzzing will proceed into the lunar module.

[John Lithgow]

Not because he conquers space, but because he conquers himself.

[Langston Kerman]

Buzz, we intercepted a Soviet radio transmission.

[John Lithgow]

Starring me, John Lithgow.

[Langston Kerman]

Can you put it through?

[John Lithgow]

Can you Translate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts?

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

Columbia it's the biggest party of the summer. WWE SummerSlam is here. And wrestling. Wrestling with Freddy is all over it. We're talking wild matches, big surprises, and our boldest predictions yet. From celebrity showdowns to the chaos inside a steel cage, we're breaking down every match and calling who we think walks out on top. This card is loaded from Cody Rhodes, John Cena, Rhea, Ripley and Tiffy, just to name a few. This lineup is ready to tear down the house. We'll give you our unfiltered takes. Honest debates and you already know A ton of laps along the way. We're covering the upsets, the wild returns, and the championship moments. Nobody expects we'll get into the matches that steal the show, the storylines that explode, and those oh my God, did that just happen moments that make SummerSlam legendary. Don't miss it. Listen to Wrestling with Freddy as part of the M Podcast network. Find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Buzz Aldrin]

What's up, guys? Welcome to Agusto Papa, the go to spot for everything musica Mexicana. We're proud Mexican Americans who live and breathe this music. We started this podcast to share and discuss our views on musica mexicana. Whether you like Peso Pluma, Los Alres del Barranco, Ariel Camacho, or Ivan Cornejo, when you get in your feels, then this podcast is for you. We deep dive into music reviews.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

First of all, my show last year, everything was a 10 out of 10.

[Buzz Aldrin]

Fashion and lifestyle inspired by the roots of musica mexicana, the craziest controversies and Cheesemans.

[Blakely Thornton]

I don't have nothing against Puerto, you.

[Langston Kerman]

Know, and I don't think Jo should be mad.

[Buzz Aldrin]

I mean, song and artist comparisons, competition in the scene. There is competition, there is sides to this. There's special Pluma, Double P and there's J Street Mob. I think at the end of the day, it's business, it's all competition, and of course, our personal stories and opinions along the way. This isn't just a podcast. It's a movement for fans who live musica Mexicana every single day. Listen to Augusto Papa as part of the Michael Tura Podcast Network on the.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Blakely Thornton]

Look, if you hate cops just because.

[Langston Kerman]

They'Re cops, the next time you get.

[Blakely Thornton]

In trouble, call a crackhead.

[Langston Kerman]

Don't call us. We don't care. We're back. Actually, call us. So we're gonna do a voicemail right now.

[Blakely Thornton]

Call us at 844-LIL-MOMS if you ever want to send us a voicemail. And we're gonna do one together now. Here we go. I landed on something that sparked my interest. Who knows what the fuck it is? We'll listen to it together.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Hey, y', all, first time caller, only recent listener. I love your podcast Odds conspiracy that I don't know has been brought up in the show before because I haven't seen all the episodes. My conspiracy dates back to 2021, shortly after this whole big thing thing of a chicken wing shortage happening. I'm not sure if Y' all remember that?

[Langston Kerman]

But suddenly comes up too much. Literally just yesterday.

[Blakely Thornton]

We talked about it. Literally yesterday.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay, there was a wind shortage, but.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

That was during COVID Yeah, that's right.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah. And this brother wants you to open your eyes about it.

[Langston Kerman]

No, he's gonna go somewhere with it.

[Blakely Thornton]

Let's. Let's see.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Wingstop started selling chicken thighs, and after.

[Langston Kerman]

The chicken thigh movement disappeared, Wingstop then.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Start to sell wings. So my conspiracy is about 75%. At least 75% of the chicken wings.

[Langston Kerman]

Sold in the US since 2020 have.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Not been that of the wings of a chicken, because a lot of them no longer say chicken wings. They just say wings.

[Langston Kerman]

Wow. Wait, so who.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

What.

[Langston Kerman]

What's the wing? Wing of what?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah, the wing of what?

[Blakely Thornton]

I think he's putting that on.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, that's prosthetics.

[Blakely Thornton]

I think he's like, look, man, I'm not a scientist, but you are.

[Langston Kerman]

I also love the ch. Thigh movement.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah, the chicken thigh movement. I think the primary issue with this caller is that 90% of their meals are at Wingstop.

[Blakely Thornton]

Let's go.

[Langston Kerman]

He did notice. That is a crazy thing to notice. He's like, notice they stopped saying chicken wings.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I'm like, who was that?

[Langston Kerman]

No, I didn't.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

No, actually, they didn't stop. We didn't stop. Stop. I think you need to take it up with Rick Ross. Okay. Rick Ross, the boss can tell you what the fuck is going on there. Yeah, I don't. I don't.

[Blakely Thornton]

I don't. I don't know if it's called chicken or not chicken. I just. I'd just be eating it.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I. I look at labels, so I do. And I would encourage everyone to go to the grocery store and cook a meal.

[Blakely Thornton]

When's the last time you had some chicken wings?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Probably, like, two days ago.

[Blakely Thornton]

And they said you made them chicken wings.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I made them. And they said chicken wings versus chicken wings. Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay, what do you buy, like, a bag full of. Bag full of drums.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

You might get a bag full of drumettes. Yeah, like Trader Joe's or, like. Or Whole Foods, unfortunately, sometimes, yeah, Whole.

[Langston Kerman]

Foods be taxed on that.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I try not to go to anywhere Amazon owned, but you know what I mean?

[Blakely Thornton]

Now, do. Do any of us.

[Langston Kerman]

Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Everybody shut the fuck up.

[Blakely Thornton]

Do any of us know for sure why that wing shortage happened? What was the cause of the wing shortage?

[Langston Kerman]

No, I don't know. I just. I remember feverishly texting with a friend of mine. Like, we were.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I thought it was Something about actually just the logistics of, like, getting. Of farmers getting produce to places without touching anyone. I think it was, like a Covid lag of just logistics and everything.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Like, breaking down the chicken that caused that. Like, even though it was. I'm sure it's wildly mechanized at this point, but I think it was just logistics of. I think also birds were getting Covid, were they not?

[Blakely Thornton]

It says it was largely a supply chain labor issue.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Blakely Thornton]

Weather events, national brand. They're listing other possible causes, but I think it was supply chain shit.

[Langston Kerman]

I will say to put my tinfoil hat on. There was a lot of wild chicken moves during COVID Chicken was moving funny. Yeah. The thigh movement. What was that all about?

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

The Popeyes chicken sandwich.

[Blakely Thornton]

Popeyes chicken sandwich.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm just saying chicken was moving goofy. There was no beef news in Covid.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Chicken was moving goofy before COVID though.

[Langston Kerman]

You think so?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

The Popeyes sandwich sandwich line. What the fuck was that?

[Langston Kerman]

That was Covid. That was.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

People were getting in line during COVID.

[Blakely Thornton]

That's why it was so crazy. Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I blocked a lot of that out. Like the Will Smith stuff, I think.

[Blakely Thornton]

I think.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I think in my most dark times.

[Blakely Thornton]

In my most optimistic, I go. They were giving us a reason to keep wanting to live. And that.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

A chicken sandwich.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I think. Okay.

[Blakely Thornton]

I think that's how little they think.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

That's really dark. Yeah, that's really.

[Blakely Thornton]

I think they were like, give the animals something to celebrate. They're going through a lot right now.

[Langston Kerman]

Wow.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Okay.

[Langston Kerman]

It was a great voicemail.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I don't have. It's like, that's the thought.

[Blakely Thornton]

You taught me things I taught you thought rings.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

I'm just sad now.

[Langston Kerman]

I think we all learned a lot today.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Thought rings true.

[Langston Kerman]

And I think at least I know we learned that we're gonna move a little differently through this world after this. And I'm thankful for you to.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

You forgiving me, you know, Take up space.

[Langston Kerman]

Punch a white lady.

[Blakely Thornton]

Punch a white lady.

[Langston Kerman]

I didn't. Not me.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

But emotionally, yeah. Yeah.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yep.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

We don't condone. We condone emotional violence, or at least I do.

[Blakely Thornton]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Not physical violence. And we're learning, you know?

[Langston Kerman]

And we're learning. Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Living and learning.

[Blakely Thornton]

Blakely, could you tell the people where they could find you and more?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

You can find me at Blakeley Thornton on Instagram and TikTok, and also the Yesterdays podcast out every Tuesday on podcast one with Justin Sylvester. And then soon to be on a show called Running Dialogue, which is like hot ones on a treadmill where I ask you questions and if you don't answer we speed up.

[Langston Kerman]

Whoa. Oh so it's hard hitting questions so.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

You can answer or we can die. We can go Damn.

[Langston Kerman]

All right.

[Blakely Thornton]

You know Bory, what you got?

[Langston Kerman]

You will catch me not on the treadmill. Cool guy jokes 87 I'm running from my own past. No I don't have anything crazy, just my special Birth of a nation. Patreon.com DM David Bore and that's good for now.

[Blakely Thornton]

You can follow me Langston Kerman on all social media platforms. If you want to send us your own drops, conspiracy theories if you want to tell us which nurse you've punched, send it all to mymamapodmail.com we would love to hear from you. Give us a call at 844-lil-MS. We love these voicemails and like subscribe rate review do all the things you're supposed to do to make a podcast popular. We love you so much. Bye bitch.

[Langston Kerman]

People who were in slavery wish that.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

They had curbside service at Applebee's.

[Blakely Thornton]

My Mama Told Me is a production of Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network.

[Langston Kerman]

And I Heart Podcast, created and hosted by Langston Kern co hosted by David Bore executive produced by Will Ferrell Hansani.

[Blakely Thornton]

And Olivia Aguilar co produced by BAE.

[Langston Kerman]

Wayne edited and engineered. Pioneered by Justin Kah Music by Nick Chambers artwork by Dogon Krieger.

[Blakely Thornton]

You can now watch episodes of My Mama told me on YouTube, follow at my Mama Told Me and subscribe to our channel.

[David Bore]

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[John Lithgow]

Hello, I'm John Lithgow.

[Buzz Aldrin]

We choose to go to the moon.

[John Lithgow]

I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast.

[Langston Kerman]

That's One Small Step for Man about.

[John Lithgow]

Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space.

[Blakely Thornton]

You're a great pilot, Buzz.

[John Lithgow]

That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't. Buzz Starring me, John lithgow on the iHeartRadio album app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

We're breaking down SummerSlam, the biggest party of the summer on Wrestling With Freddy. From our bold picks to storyline breakdowns, we will discuss who walks out with gold, who shocks the night and which matches steal the show we call the winners, the upsets and the chaos to expect, plus whatever swerves nobody saw coming. Listen to Wrestling With Freddy as part of the Movie My Cultura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Blakely Thornton]

What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Maximum security prison or the most brutal.

[Blakely Thornton]

Boot camp designed to be hell on Earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced.

[Langston Kerman]

He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Listen to shock incarceration on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Blakely Thornton]

This is an iHeart podcast.