Why Old Heads Avoided ADD Diagnosis (With Devon Walker)

Summary

My Momma Told Me

Episode: Why Old Heads Avoided ADD Diagnosis (With Devon Walker)
Date: December 2, 2025
Hosts: Langston Kerman, David Gborie
Guest: Devon Walker

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Episode Overview

This episode of My Momma Told Me dives into the longstanding skepticism among older Black generations (“Old Heads”) regarding learning disability diagnoses—specifically ADHD/ADD and autism—in Black children. Langston, David, and guest comedian Devon Walker break down the roots and repercussions of this attitude, using personal stories, cultural critiques, and the show’s signature mix of humor and unfiltered honesty.

Though the advertised topic (ADD diagnosis) is formally addressed about halfway in, the episode also meanders through hilarious and thought-provoking territory—celebrity culture, Michael Jackson biopics, homophobia in Black families, and the evolution of Black representation on TV.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Celebrity Culture & the "Black Experience"

• The hosts kick off joking about the perception versus reality of celebrities in first class:
  • Langston: “Whenever you see celebrities sitting in first class, we ain’t pay for that shit.” (02:03)
  • David: “One of us had to get to the back. That’s all I remember.” (02:41)
• Discussion about representation of Black sex on TV—shows like Insecure and Soul Food as benchmarks for visibility.

2. Michael Jackson Biopic & Difficult Legacies

• Hilarious speculation about how the new Michael Jackson film might (or might not) handle the topic of sexual abuse allegations.
  • Langston: "They either address it poorly… or they are not going to mention it at all. And both of those choices are so funny." (06:14)
• Jokes about Black celebrity kids' wild names (“Your Majesty,” “Jafar Jackson,” etc.), and related banter about generational differences in naming.

3. Black Children, Learning Disabilities & Diagnosis Fears (Main Theme)

• Devon Walker's Conspiracy: Black parents, especially older generations, strongly discouraged official ADD/ADHD/autism diagnoses for fear their kids would be tracked, marginalized, or denied opportunities.
  • David: “My dad was really afraid that, like, if I got…medicated…they going to put you in the class over there. And then once you in the class over there, you not going to college.” (31:14)
  • Langston: Describes the physical separation in schools (“the portables,” “the fourth floor,” etc.)—where labeled kids were clustered together, reinforcing stigma and limiting opportunities. (32:19)
• The hosts reflect on how this created a massive catch-22:
  • Without diagnosis and help, kids struggled;
  • With diagnosis, they were marked for “the dumb class.”
  • Co-host: "They're like, you're stupid. It's stupid in here, bro." (33:13)

4. Generational Transmission of Fear & Coping Strategies

• The conversation delves into how Black parents’ attitudes are shaped by personal, sometimes traumatic experience:
  • David: “My dad was a kid in the 60s…I’m sure in the 60s, that is actually what was happening.” (31:14)
  • Co-host: “You never met kids who got banished to fucking…the portables, bro.” (32:09)
• Relationships with stepdads and the resilience of Black families also emerge humorously.
  • Langston: “There is no person on the planet I admire more for their willingness to experiment with their life…My mom’s instincts and bravery in that way are admirable…” (36:16)
  • The hosts acknowledge the cycle of inherited trauma and adaptation: “You got, now you got a Goku.” (38:16)

5. ADHD, Medication, and Systemic Distrust

• They discuss the evolution of attitudes towards medication—moving from underdiagnosis to “diagnosing a fuckton,” but only offering one “solution” (drugs) rather than a spectrum of supports.
  • Langston: “It’s not the drug is the solution. It’s, hey, the drug is an option and should you choose it, this is what could happen.” (58:02)
• Ongoing systemic issues—poverty, underfunded schools, lack of empathy—mean Black kids remain vulnerable to over-policing/disempowerment, no matter advances in medical understanding.
  • Co-host: “I think also systemically for little Black boys, behavioral problems are just like…a part of being in the system.” (58:23)
  • Langston: “How many of these badass kids at school would do better if their mom just didn’t have to work late?” (58:58)

6. Black Parental Attitudes on Gender & Sexuality

• David shares stories about his father's homophobia, as expressed through suspicion about toys, clothes, or who was at the house—always rooted in generational attitudes rather than real malice.
  • “I had a pair of pink sneakers and my dad was like, son, I know you’re bisexual.” (45:07)
• The hosts contrast this with the generally more supportive, open attitudes of their mothers.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Michael Jackson Biopic:
  • Langston: “They’re either going to deal with this in a shit of a way or they are not going to mention it at all. And both of those choices are so funny.” (06:14)
• On Being "Diagnosed":
  • David (quoting his father): “You do that, they gonna put you in the class over there. And then once you in the class over there, you not going to college.” (31:14)
  • Co-host: “They're like: you're stupid. It's stupid in here, bro.” (33:13)
• On Generational Progress:
  • Co-host: “You wonder, though, can your parents harness? They got what they got, and then it’s up to you to harness it a little more. And then the next one's gonna harness it a little more. You know what I mean? Three generations, now you got a Goku." (38:16)
• On the System & Diagnosis:
  • Co-host: “There’s a million places that the system can catch the little Black boys…I’m hesitant to say that I don’t think diagnosis is…reasonable to be hesitant? Yeah, always.” (54:04)
  • Langston: “How many of these badass kids at school would do better if their mom just didn’t have to work late?” (58:58)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:03 – 03:08: Celebrities and first-class truths
• 06:14 – 06:29: Possibilities for the Michael Jackson biopic
• 30:42 – 47:26: In-depth discussion on ADD/A diagnosis in the Black community; personal and generational stories
• 54:04 – 59:30: Does fear of diagnosis still have merit today? Are Black kids still at risk of being “caught” by the system?
• 59:50 – 60:23: Nuanced take on whether diagnosis or avoidance was “wrong,” and empathy for prior generations

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Tone & Style

As ever, the episode blends deeply personal narratives, astute social critique, and irreverent, no-holds-barred jokes. The hosts and guest are candid about their upbringings and the real pain caused by both over- and under-diagnosis, but keep things light with side stories and recurring in-jokes (culinary suspicion as sexual coding, generational Goku, Dragon Ball Z analogies).

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Summary in One Sentence

Through laughter, storytelling, and sharp social commentary, My Momma Told Me explores why Black parents have historically feared learning disability diagnoses, the complex effects on Black kids’ futures, and the delicate process of breaking generational cycles—offering empathy to the past while demanding better solutions for the present.

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Where to Find More

• Devon Walker: My Favorite Lyrics podcast
• Langston Kerman & David Gborie: Upcoming standup dates and more at langstonkerman.com
• Feedback & Stories: [e-mail] | 844-LIL-MOMS

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This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of Black family life, education, generational change, mental health, and, of course, comedy.

Transcript

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[David]

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[Langston Kerman]

There are so many people who sit in first class that actually pay for those tickets.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Oh yeah. Who didn't get bumped up or who.

[Langston Kerman]

Aren'T like being flown on another person's dime.

[David]

Oh yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

There are like people with real fucking money and that' that the people at home should probably know. Whenever you see celebrities sitting in first class, we ain't pay for that shit.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

You said we. You think about celebrities. That's how you think. And I mean in the most minor sense. All right, that's cool.

[Langston Kerman]

I mean anybody with even like a modicum of a. You're on TV sometimes. Like we did not pay for those first class seats. So when you see them sitting, when you see us. I'll still sit in my shit. You tried to shame me, but I Won't. I won't apologize when you see us sitting.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

All I'm saying is, last time we were on a plane, one of us was in first class. Who doesn't claim to be a celebrity? One of us had to get to the back. That's all I remember. That's all I'm saying. See, on the other side, that's the best time it ever felt for me, sitting in first class. Because every other time, I be hoping somebody I know gets on there.

[Langston Kerman]

Nah, man, never.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Never, ever, once.

[David]

Yeah, you'd be sitting up way straighter. You'd be sitting up. Sitting up like this with your drink before y' all even touched it, before y' all even.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

And a lot of the reason I was in for his class is it was like an hour flight. You remember?

[David]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

It was like Houston or Austin or something. The government growing babies. Microchips in your anus. All koala bears are racist. The ozone layer owes me money. Marshall's invented turkey stuff. Y' all can't tell me nothing.

[Langston Kerman]

Should we do? Bop shoe bop I wanna love you Shooby doo bop shoe bop Computer love Shooby doo bop shoe bop I wanna love you Shooby doo bop shoe bop Computer love There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, little mamas and gentiles alike, welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me the podcast.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

It dives deep into the pockets of.

[Langston Kerman]

Black conspiracy theories, and we finally work to prove not a goddamn thing. We're not solving none of your problems. No.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Ever answers.

[Langston Kerman]

You know what? Guess what?

[David]

We're trying.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, that's the sad part. We'd love to be an advice podcast. We just ain't got it. I'd love to tell you what to do.

[Langston Kerman]

Sometimes we be telling people what to do, and then afterwards, me and David will look at each other and be like, we shouldn't have said that.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, we're in the car. Like, that was dumb.

[David]

That's crazy.

[Langston Kerman]

Why would we tell them to do that?

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I don't even know that problem that they're going through.

[Langston Kerman]

Really. I've never met them before in my life.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I don't. I can't assess it, but here we are.

[Langston Kerman]

I've been thinking about this a lot.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I can tell you're excited.

[Langston Kerman]

I want to. It's always on my chest heavy. I am very excited to see what they do with the molestation in this Michael Jackson film. I'm really pumped about how they handle this.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I just want everybody to know. I said a thing about molestation earlier. I Don't think as crazy is what Langston just said. I do like that on the boat.

[David]

This feels like the most reasonable way to feel. Yours was a crazy, crazy, huge, huge jump. This is something that's based in. This is based in fact.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

The film is happening one way or the other.

[David]

Yours is speculation about fictional characters in a movie that doesn't touch the subject.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

You'Re in any type of.

[David]

No pun intended.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

No, they said that, little boy. They said that.

[Langston Kerman]

No, no, no. Brother man.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

All right.

[Langston Kerman]

Four Brothers does not have a follow up film. And it doesn't have a prelude neither.

[David]

Not involved.

[Langston Kerman]

They didn't address that once. They took a lot of dookies in front of each other. Y. Certainly that was how they demonstrated brotherhood.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

You know, like brothers do.

[Langston Kerman]

I always let my brother dookie while I shower. That's perfectly normal. These children were raised right. I returned to my premises.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah. Continue that.

[Langston Kerman]

I am very excited to see what they do because they either have. They have two choices in front of them. They either address it poorly.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

It's gonna be.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, they're either going to deal with this in a shit of a way or they are not going to mention it at all. And both of those choices are so funny.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I think that.

[David]

Man.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I think they're not gonna mention it.

[Langston Kerman]

You think they're not even gonna bring it up.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

So this is. Here's how I think of it. The estate signed off.

[Langston Kerman]

Right. His nephew is playing him. Mm. It's Jermaine's.

[David]

Whose son? Ja'.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Far. Whoa. I thought that was an Arab guy.

[Langston Kerman]

No, it is. I mean, sort of.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

In at least one way. Come on down, come on by Take.

[Langston Kerman]

A carpet and fly to another Arabian night.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Jafar Jackson is a cold ass name.

[Langston Kerman]

That's not even his worst. The worst named son. Your Majesty is the worst name. Son boy. Oh.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

What was the order on that?

[Langston Kerman]

Your Majesty is first.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Okay. And then Jafar.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. My boy. He was like, nah, I'm in a theme now. But I don't really know how to hit that. I don't know where to go.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

It feels hard to commit to letters for names for black people.

[Langston Kerman]

Specifically letters and then royalty based on your own name. It really gets complicated. Cause I bet Jafar is spelled a little bit like Jermaine. Oh, no. I bet he probably, like tinkered with.

[David]

It a little bit in there.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

A little assumption.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

You're the only one here with the kid. Did you. Was there any. Want to do that a little bit?

[Langston Kerman]

Absolutely not. I.

[David]

And respect to you for that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I really appreciate it.

[Langston Kerman]

It weirds me out that my kids say my last name. They say your last name meaning, like their last name. They're like, my kids identify with their last name. And I go, ugh, I thought meant you.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

You made them call you Mr. Kerman.

[David]

Or like Daddy Kerman.

[Langston Kerman]

Look, I. I'm not an unreasonable man, but I like what I like.

[David]

Yeah. You know what I think they're going to do in the Michael Jackson. You know what? I. I do think either they're going to not touch it or they're going to do like a. Like a montage. Like a montage of like. Oh, and then crazy stuff starting happening. And then maybe like a news reporter being like false accusations leveled at Michael J. Like, they're going to. It's going to be musical number where they like, they gloss over it. They're just. It's just him like walking into court and then it goes immediately to, you know, like a 90s hit that he.

[Langston Kerman]

Man in the Mirror.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

But no, no, no, that's not the song. If I'm the editor, it's leave me alone.

[Langston Kerman]

Whoa.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I didn't touch those kids.

[Langston Kerman]

That little white boy came on to me.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Just stop dogging me around.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, Michael.

[Commercial Announcer]

Oh, Michael.

[Langston Kerman]

Look at your skinny little chest. I want to suck on your. No nipples, Michael. I'm like, get away from me, white boy. I talk like this. Michael Jackson. I talk like this.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Oh, man. I want to see it in theaters, though. They're getting my money.

[David]

It feels like we have to, right? It feels like we need to.

[Langston Kerman]

I want to make an event out of it.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I'm down.

[David]

Damn, I wish I was in la, man.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I'm gonna get high, boy.

[Langston Kerman]

I would like to do that with all of my friends.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Cause like, the music is gonna get you in the end. Of course it's gonna make you. Cause it's so good, bro.

[Langston Kerman]

The trailer ain't nothing but his songs. And we all just went, damn, this is gonna be great.

[David]

It's gonna be good.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

We didn't see the boy act once.

[David]

Oh, no. There's no way.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

He was from a different country, which is. They're good at acting.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, that's true.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

British guys go crazy.

[David]

Oh, British guy's British.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

No, I just didn't. I just like. I didn't know about the. I didn't know about the lineage. I was just like, why is it all right?

[Langston Kerman]

Jafar Jackson, they gave him a prosthetic nose.

[David]

And are they covering dark skinned Mike at all?

[Langston Kerman]

I think that is about as dark as we're Gonna get.

[David]

See. Cause to me, if you're gonna do this movie, it's like, why don't we just. Why don't we just see him in his early years? Why don't we just do Jackson 5 to, like, Thriller? And then you never have to touch. And I'm sorry again, no pun intended. But then you never have to.

[Langston Kerman]

A little bit of pun intended.

[David]

Then you never have to touch the nasty stuff, bro.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

But because as a film, you don't want to know what the fuck was going on during Dangerous. Yeah. That's all I want to know.

[Langston Kerman]

All his complicated years are, why did.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

You write a song called Liberian Girl?

[David]

Yeah, I don't know if I know that one.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Liberian Girl. It's not good.

[Langston Kerman]

You came and you changed my world. Just like a movie.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

That's a good one.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Also, keep it in the closet. Felt like he was saying something. Well, have you seen that video where he's, like, dancing on Naomi Campbell? She's not into it.

[Langston Kerman]

We've talked about it a lot on this podcast. It is the most ambitious he's ever been sexually.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah. Pretending to like a lady in a video, for sure.

[Langston Kerman]

He picked the baddest bitch on the planet, put her in black and white, made her naked. Like, truly, that was the most naked I had seen a woman, I think, up to that point in my life.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Oh, man, I lived by woods.

[Langston Kerman]

I don't mean that I hadn't, but, like, where I could just watch it.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Right, right, right.

[Langston Kerman]

And not be doing something naughty, nefarious. I think I had to. That was the most publicly, openly naked woman.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

She was good. Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

And he just couldn't prove it to us that he liked that. It's a real bummer. Yeah, he tried.

[David]

He gave it a shot.

[Langston Kerman]

Our guest today, We haven't seen him try to fuck yet. We're excited. We're excited. It's gonna be good. You're in a brand new era of your life.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

High hopes for you.

[Langston Kerman]

You're transitioning. Ascending. Yeah. Beyond a point that I think this is a huge opportunity for you to get naked and fuck a bad bitch on camera.

[David]

I mean, I'm inspired. You know what I'm saying? I've seen the work that you've put forth.

[Langston Kerman]

Sure.

[David]

I've watched you put in strokes on camera. I've gotten to see Reggie conquest. Put in strokes on camera.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I did not get that part. Oh, that was.

[David]

It was between you and Reggie.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Of course it was between me and Reggie now. Of course. But there's probably 10 dudes that they.

[David]

Asked you, Reggie, Jamel Johnson.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, man.

[David]

Y' all was all in there.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Mandrel was underground back then. We didn't know about Mando yet. Mando would have took that, brother.

[David]

I can't wait to see Mandal giving.

[Langston Kerman]

Back shots to the idea of a fully naked Mando. Just putting strokes on giving it, man.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

That would have been cool.

[David]

We need that.

[Langston Kerman]

That's beautiful. It's a beautiful future that we could all look forward to.

[David]

I hope to follow in Yalls footsteps.

[Langston Kerman]

That's.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

No, I haven't, but I think you could do it.

[David]

I think it's coming for all of us.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah.

[David]

You know what I'm saying? You don't really see niggas fucking on TV that much. That show had a lot of fucking in it.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[David]

Insecure.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I feel like Insecure was the most. I think I've seen black people fuck on tv.

[David]

Yeah, you don't get a lot of that. They don't want to see. They don't want to see that.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Do you know what they used to fuck on, actually, you guys remember Soul Food on Showtime? I remember they used to fuck on there.

[David]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

It did a lot for me. You could count on it almost every episode.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

The problem was you had to get to a house that had Showtime, and then you had to be alone.

[David]

And that's asking a lot. Yeah, you gotta wait for every. You gotta hope they got a certain cable package, and then everybody gotta go to sleep and you gotta go in the other room.

[Langston Kerman]

They gotta trust. Trust you with their home.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I mean, I was like 12 when that show was on.

[Langston Kerman]

I just mean that, like, there was never a time where, like, a person came over and I just left them alone in a room.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Oh, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

You know what I mean? Like, you. You're kind of. You're here. I'm here to entertain you.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

My parents. My mom went out a lot, so it would be like all the kids at the house, and everybody went out.

[Langston Kerman]

I got you.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Then it's Lord of the Flies in there.

[David]

Sure, sure, sure. There's no rules at that point.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

No, no, no, no, no, no. We got fireworks out. Did you guys ever touching parents guns? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's you guys. Isn't it crazy how much that happened? Like, they really played it up to. I remember, like, there being PSAs and stuff in the 90s, but like, that shit probably happened to me 10 times.

[Langston Kerman]

Where somebody pulled out their parents guns.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, yeah, probably. Probably for real. 10 times.

[David]

I knew a lot of people. I'm from Texas, so It's like, I knew people who had, like, my homie. His dad was on the SWAT team.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah.

[David]

So we had, like, a crazy. He had a gun safe. And we wouldn't. Fuck. We wouldn't. Because we always were scared that if we moved him, he would know, but we would just, like.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Like, rewind in the porno, T. Yeah, exactly.

[David]

So, like. But we always. We'd open up the safe and just be like, oh, yeah, there's a lot of fun guns.

[Langston Kerman]

A lot of guns.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

I once. I think only once for me, that a kid pulled out their parents gun.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Their parents gun.

[David]

It was less gunshit for me and more like one nigga had, like, a porn dvd, and then he's put. You know what I'm saying? Remember that? That feels really universal.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Those things put on the.

[David]

On the big screen. But then it's like, everybody's just sitting around. You're just hard, but you're not doing nothing. Everybody's just like, yeah, you know what? I. But you can't. There's no way to address that.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I think it's more wholesome than what they got going on now, though.

[Langston Kerman]

The R. Kelly tape got pulled out a bunch on me.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

You're from Chicago.

[David]

I'm from Chicago. Damn.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

That's a crazy thing you just said. Yeah. Damn, that sucks.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Wow. I was like. I didn't. I was good, yo.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

That's.

[Langston Kerman]

I didn't really want to have to.

[David]

That's not what you wanted to say.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

What a vibe killer.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Yeah. But at the time, it wasn't because we didn't have the capacities to know. You know what I mean? Like, I knew deep down in my soul there was something not good about this, but I didn't have the capacity to be like, hey, y', all, stop this.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Wake up, brothers. This is dangerous, what we're committing to.

[David]

Of course, you know, we were talking.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

About it in the hall, but. Tough town you're from.

[Langston Kerman]

Nah.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

R. Kelly tape got pulled out a bunch on me.

[David]

My homie's from Chicago, and he talks about, like, growing up, everybody just knew where R. Kelly would be at. And so, like, his sister just wasn't allowed to go to the rock and roll McDonald's. That was, like, a big thing, because it was like, that's where R. Kelly used to kick it at.

[Langston Kerman]

Don't go there.

[David]

Don't be at the rock and roll McDonald's. That's like a very. It's like a very known thing in their family.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. It's just. They. He had spots. Most of them were high schools and where children hung out and that everybody knew that I go crazy.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, it is a crazy shout out.

[Langston Kerman]

Baby, love you.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

It's too cold.

[Langston Kerman]

Our guest today, we still haven't introduced him. We still haven't even finished his intro. I tried to do a charming thing of him having sex, and then it turned into us talking about how bad my city is. And I don't agree with them. I think it's a beautiful story. No, I think it is.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I wish I could raise a. It's beautiful.

[Langston Kerman]

I wish I could raise my children in that violence right now. I miss it every day. That said, our guest today, he's wonderful. You know him from snl. You know him from his brand new special on Hulu that you can watch. Goddamn, is he funny. A dear friend. Give it up for Devin Walker, everybody. Look, if you hate cops just because.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

They'Re cops, the next time you get.

[Langston Kerman]

In trouble, call a crackhead.

[David]

Beautiful. What's up, yo?

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, shutdown's over.

[David]

Happy to be here. It is crazy. We've fully gotten into. We've gotten to what happens to boys at group homes and Michael Jackson and R. Kelly. It's only been, like 15 minutes.

[Langston Kerman]

No, it's been crazy. It's been a whirlwind.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Sometimes I think it's crazy that we do this and expect for some people to give us money.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, it is. That's really weird.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

We're really putting filth out there. Yeah. Hoping to get gold back. We're going okay so far.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, no, we're. We're not. We're not. We're not. In the red.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Shout out to all the new people. Don Lemon. Maybe don't watch this one.

[David]

Is Don Lemon a fan?

[Langston Kerman]

I don't know if we can call him a fan.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, okay.

[Langston Kerman]

He's like. He's liked a video.

[David]

Okay. So he's aware.

[Langston Kerman]

He's aware. Don Lemon, Download, yo.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

For real. I won't even go crazy.

[Langston Kerman]

We'll be respectful.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

We. We know that you have your own news channel.

[David]

Is that what he's doing now?

[Langston Kerman]

I think so.

[David]

He got his own joint? Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Is it weather or actual news?

[Langston Kerman]

Nah, I think he's, like, doing, like, he's, like, dealing with issues, but Don Lemon style.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, I think we need maybe less news.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I would say so. I would say if the news decides you're not cut out for the news, you should stop being allowed to do news.

[David]

You shouldn't be allowed to do solo news.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, like, that's Not.

[David]

You can't be the news source.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

That's all social media is, though.

[David]

I know.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

It's just people doing solo news, which, when you think about it that way, is pretty hilarious. It's like, just, like, people being like, I gotta report this. Like, you know how much of my news feed was just other people talking about Max B Being home?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Like, I felt like I got out, like, right.

[Langston Kerman]

It was like, everybody's celebrating in a way that makes you feel like, hey, these are my people.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

And I'm seeing the same thing from different angles. So I'm like, no. It's like I'm there. You know how many different angles? I saw him hug French Montana and I was like, by the third or fourth one, you're like, this is beautiful, man.

[Langston Kerman]

Forgive my ignorance. Why are they so close?

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

They were rapping together and all that.

[David]

I think they came up together.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh. I don't know French Montana's origins very well.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I know Max B. I think it's similar to Aladdin.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. He was a street rat.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

A scoundrel.

[Langston Kerman]

He was stealing bread for him and his monkey.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Just a little snack guy.

[Langston Kerman]

And then Puff Daddy saw him, and he said, wait a minute.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

And now he's gonna marry a princess.

[David]

Whoa, bro.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Fresh Montana is one of the best. Yeah. That's like, if life is about distance traveled, he. He went from Coke boys. Yeah, Coke boys.

[David]

It's also like, I think he has a really beautiful career because he is one of those artists who, like, you never think about French Montana. But, like, when you do think about, like, the hits that he has, they're so mega. They're so monstrous, huge. You know what? I'm, like, very rich and successful, but, like, also very out the way. He feels like he's not running a race against, like, other artists. It's like, no. He makes songs for, like, Mountain Dew commercials, you know what I'm saying? And, like, big radio hits with, like, sway and, like, stuff for, like, the Spider man soundtrack. And then he married a prince. And then he's just over here.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Where he went to Uganda. That song's so good.

[David]

Unforgive.

[Langston Kerman]

He figured out a way to make. That is a good song.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

It's really good, man.

[Langston Kerman]

He. He figured out a way to make Flow Riders still cool.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Langston Kerman]

Do you know what I mean? Like, Flowrider was like, I don't care if you think I'm cool. I am making Buff boy musical rich.

[David]

You know what I'm saying? Whenever you got songs, they play at SeaWorld, yo.

[Langston Kerman]

Shit.

[David]

Going up.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Although I think SeaWorld's kind of letting a lot in. SeaWorld's doing.

[David]

That's exactly who's about to be at SeaWorld.

[Langston Kerman]

I made my plea before. I really think they're trying to convince us that slavery is okay again.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

That's what you were saying.

[Langston Kerman]

I really think they're trying to tell us, hey, man. Cause they're getting you to. They want you to be okay with what's going on with those whales so bad.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

It's too. They're too desperate for that. And if they do that with whales, they're gonna do it to us. I promise you they will do the same shit they do to whales to us.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Are Finn's about to be humped over, bro? Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

They're gonna be like, nah. All black people got that droopy eyelid.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Nah. That's how their eyes be.

[David]

It's coming for us.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David]

I feel like the tide has really turned on C World, though, right? I feel like people are not really. I feel like that' they're having to have, like, Young Jock come. I think that's because everybody. I feel like at this point is kind of like, well, we can't be going over there.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I love the man. If Young Jock is coming to your event, it's because the tide is turned.

[David]

Yeah, sure.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

At this point.

[David]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

You know what I mean?

[David]

Young Jock came to my college, so I probably didn't go to a very good school.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

You did not?

[Commercial Announcer]

No.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

That's why you're working with at risk youth.

[Langston Kerman]

What year did you graduate?

[David]

8. 2014.

[Langston Kerman]

Yep. That's too late. That's way too late.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

That's after he came out with the hair, right?

[Commercial Announcer]

No.

[David]

Absolutely weird for y'.

[Langston Kerman]

All.

[David]

That's a real bummer. And it's like, that's how you know if you go to, like, a good university. Because it's like, I feel like other kids who went to, like, cool private schools, they'd be like, oh, like, Tam Impala came and played at my.

[Langston Kerman]

At my.

[David]

At my college. And I'd be like, oh, nah. We just. We got Young Jock. We got Little Scrappy.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. We had. We had Janelle Monae when she was still a robot. We were on some, like, innovative.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

That's fine. You hear about Kanye went to, like, Dartmouth and, like, his college tour was, like, crazy.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, it. We. We got her early when it was, like, a theater where she was still crowd surfing and letting people touch her and.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Whoa.

[Langston Kerman]

They're y'. All. That's sad what you're describing is sad.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Did anybody.

[David]

How many people were. Quite a few.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Quite a few.

[David]

We were just happy to have somebody there.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Okay. Right.

[David]

You know what I'm saying?

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

It was like, young jock. Next week, Jamie Kennedy.

[David]

Jamie Kennedy followed me at one point on Instagram, and then I went back and looked like a month later, and he unfollowed me.

[Langston Kerman]

Damn.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Jamie Kennedy followed me on tour for three stops once.

[Langston Kerman]

Whoa.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Three stops in a row.

[David]

Same venue.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

No, like he was. He was either coming or had been at the venue I played. And it was hard for me to understand where I was in my career. Like, am I up or is he down?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, no, that's a bummer. That's a hard one.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, it was tough, you know, I think where I landed.

[David]

Yeah, I can imagine.

[Langston Kerman]

It is one of those. Where you want to. Maybe you're on a flyer with Jamie Kennedy once in your lifetime and you go, all right. Yeah. You know, sometimes you're going to cross paths.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

But you don't want it to be three stops.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

That's where you start going. All right, now I'm starting to worry.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Now I'm starting to, uh.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Oh, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Starting to feel like maybe I gotta have a conversation with somebody.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah. Maybe I gotta get back to Delta. I've strayed.

[Langston Kerman]

Devin, you. You came to us, and we should maybe take a break before.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, I think we probably should.

[Langston Kerman]

I think we've. We've. We've talked so long and. And so thoroughly. I think it's been a thorough conversation that we will start with the break and then we're going to get into your conspiracy because it's an exciting one.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

It is. It's really good.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm excited. We're going to have some more fun. More Devin Walker. More. My mama told me.

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[David]

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[David]

Jeff Bezos came, Bill Gates came, Mark Zuckerberg, Cameron came.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Many of them came numerous times.

[David]

The bankers have all come.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Everybody's coming and you're coming back to this podcast. Welcome back to My Mama Told Me.

[Langston Kerman]

You know, every once in a while I forget what's on there. You know what I mean? Things that get sent over that we go, hey, we should make this a drop or somebody sends it to us and thank you all. A lot of people send us drops and we're not always good. I especially am not always good about thanking you for the contributions you're making. But man, are you adding to the texture of this podcast.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah man, it's good to have emails.

[Langston Kerman]

We truly appreciate it.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Sometimes it's just good to be able to look through your emails and have some new shit. Yeah, a lot of influencer deals. We're not gonna do.

[Langston Kerman]

No.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

For, like, new energy drinks and protein powders and whatnot.

[Langston Kerman]

Or socks. Compression socks.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

And they always. You ever notice when they try to send us brand deals, it's always, they say, me or you.

[Langston Kerman]

It's never both of us.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

It's never both. It's always like, hey, Langston, enjoy your pod.

[David]

Enjoyed your pod.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I'm here with a great opportunity.

[Langston Kerman]

And it always is a rude association. Okay. It'll be like, for him, it'll be like, something mean.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, it's not good.

[Langston Kerman]

It's always pretty mean whenever they're, like, at it, but they're like, david, this is for you and you only.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

And it's like, do you need to exercise your Kegels? Share with your fans.

[David]

Are you losing roles to Reggie Conquest? And you trying to figure out what the next step is?

[Langston Kerman]

David, what if gas station pills could be a prescription? What if the dick pills, you had to ask your doctor for them, bro.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

You know what's whack, too? The one that we got that I actually filled out, I don't think I'm gonna get picked for the Prada cologne one.

[David]

Oh, I got sent that.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Did they send it to your house?

[David]

No, they emailed me to ask if I wanted it.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

What did you say?

[David]

I haven't responded yet.

[Langston Kerman]

Hey, you don't want the product alone.

[David]

I just haven't.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

You want the product?

[David]

Oh, come on.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Just flip it.

[David]

Okay, I'll get it.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I'll get it.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Come on, man.

[David]

I didn't expect y' all to be disappointed in this type of way.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I filled it alone. I filled it out, but I don't think they're gonna. I don't think they're gonna send it to you.

[Langston Kerman]

I'll stink however they tell me to.

[David]

Sure.

[Langston Kerman]

I don't give a fuck.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

We just want some free shit.

[David]

Yeah, no, that's a good. No, I need to hit them back.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, you gotta, bro. Get everything you can.

[David]

Yeah, I'm bad about emails in general.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, same. That's right. And text messages and phone calls.

[Langston Kerman]

Devin, you came to us with a conspiracy that we haven't addressed, and it's been an hour.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

It's been an hour already. Time flies.

[Langston Kerman]

Probably not, but it's close to it.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Time flies when you're burning bridges.

[Langston Kerman]

But you said, my mama told me black people shouldn't be diagnosed with ADD.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Or autism or it'll ruin their academic future. No one told you that was gonna be this way.

[Langston Kerman]

Incredible.

[David]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This was the thing I Wish I would have worded it better, but this is a thing that my dad used to tell me all the time.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, please.

[David]

My dad was really afraid that, like, if I got, like. I definitely had adhd, I definitely, like, needed to get medicated for. I just, like, couldn't focus for shit. Yeah. Especially, like, I couldn't do anything, like, at school. Like, if there was a thing where it was like, all right, finish this worksheet at school right now. I couldn't do it. I, like, had to go home and just, like, be in a place where it was quiet because I would just be talking and, like, doing shit.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Well, school is fun if you're cool.

[David]

You know, I knew everybody. I was cool with everybody in the class. And so I was, like, talking and, like, fucking around and shit like that.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David]

And I really wanted to get like. You know, I really was like, dad, I probably need something. And he was just like. He's like, you can't do that. You do that. They gonna put you in the class over there. And then once you in the class over there, you not going to college. This was a really. And it's also like, my dad's also like a child. Like, he was a kid in the 60s. Like, my dad was an older dad, so he was a kid in the 60s, I'm sure in the 60s. That is actually what was happening.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I'd say 70s, 80s, and 90s.

[David]

Sure.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

You never met kids who got banished to fucking. The portables, bro. You know, outside the extra. The extra. No, no, we got a portable exactly.

[David]

What you're talking about.

[Langston Kerman]

For us, it was a fourth fl, but it was really like a floor three and a half where it wasn't even a full extra floor.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

We don't got numbers over here.

[Langston Kerman]

It just had one entrance and one exit.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

We know they struggle with numbers and they.

[Langston Kerman]

So they had to go all the way upstairs to the back. Every day. They went to the back and then they had a separate little set of stairs that led to, like, three separate classrooms. And everybody with any version of a learning disability was lumped together into that. And that. That feels crazy.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

It's nuts. It's like. It's like, how does that not ruin a kid?

[Langston Kerman]

There's no chance that you get out of that and go to any Ivy League school, whatever the fuck, because they're.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Separating you in a way where it's not like, oh, I'm differently abled. Which I do think is a decent. Is like a good. They're like, you're stupid. Yeah, they're like, this is where it's stupid. It's stupid in here, bro.

[Langston Kerman]

You're hopeless. And we. We plan to keep you that way.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah.

[David]

Oh, wow. See, I kind of came on here ready to be like, man, my dad was born being crazy. I came over here, I was like, I should have got some Adderall. They should have gave me the Adderall. And y' all were like, nah, nigga, don't. Well, I don't go over there with Adderall.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I don't think you're.

[David]

They gonna put you on the fourth floor.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

No, listen, two things can be true.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Two things can be true. I think that we grew up in the tail end of that. Cause we're just a couple years older than you, right? I think we grew up kind of in the tail end of that. I think that, like, as we were towards high school age, it was getting better. Yeah, but I think, like, your dad's.

[David]

Age, I think he was terrible over there.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I'm sure he saw that, right? I'm sure. Like, did he tell you? He's like, no, that happened.

[David]

That's what he would always say. But he used to. My dad, you know, it's black dad. It's like, my dad used to.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Oh, yeah, I know. We know. We know about that.

[David]

Realizing who I'm. Okay, we both know about that. I'm saying black dad.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

No, we know about black dad. We know about black dad. Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

That's our.

[David]

That's our main thing.

[Langston Kerman]

I realize that we both have plenty of experience with black fathers.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Langston is one.

[Langston Kerman]

I am one. I've had a few black stepdads.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Oh, that's pretty good.

[Langston Kerman]

And only one of them during any formative years. The rest of them, I was a grown ass man.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Okay, that's probably the worst stepdad. Huh?

[Langston Kerman]

It's not a stepdad anymore. It's just a man who's.

[David]

That's just my.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

In love with your mother.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Yeah, I like that. You made it sweet.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

That was good.

[David]

You were about to take.

[Langston Kerman]

No. Yeah, I guess. I.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

You see the posture change?

[Langston Kerman]

There's no sweetness in my mind for these men.

[David]

Sure.

[Langston Kerman]

I feel nothing for them.

[David]

Who dated your mom? Who was Benny the Bull? Was that a black man?

[Langston Kerman]

Married. My mom married black man. Yeah, he married the second longest of my mom's four marriages.

[David]

Ooh, four.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She ain't done.

[David]

I respect her kids.

[Langston Kerman]

I don't think she's retired.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I think that from marriage, though.

[Langston Kerman]

I think that her situation is complicated enough where she may never get married again. But I don't think that instinctually she goes like, whoa, four is crazy. I'm at my limit.

[David]

I don't know, man.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I kind of like it. Shoot or shoot.

[David]

Yeah, I like that. That's romantic to me. She's not giving up on love.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

And that is her position as well. She was like, nah, I love love. I fall fast. I will not apologize for that.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I think that's brave.

[David]

Yeah, I like it.

[Langston Kerman]

I. I do think it's probably done.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Irreparable damage to you. That's correct.

[Langston Kerman]

Yes.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

I would say that's 100% true.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Two things can be true.

[David]

We can both admire Langston's mother's commitment to finding partnership and love at all costs. And we can also acknowledge Langston probably would have been better off if you.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Didn'T go like that. Life is complicated.

[Langston Kerman]

There is no person on the planet I admire more for their willingness to experiment with their life. Do you know what I mean? To look at their situation and go, I would like to try something else and truly be able to commit to it full throttle. I think my mom's instincts and bravery in that way are admirable. She will always have my heart in that way. And I think that her decision making could use some work word.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

But, like, even you acknowledge you witnessing that led to a bravery of your own. Nigga was gonna get a master's in poetry.

[David]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

That's crazy.

[Langston Kerman]

100%.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

You know what I mean? That's like a. That's like a. That's like a. That's a you. And you went to, like, a real school that wasn't even, like, community college. Right? You went to a real. Yeah, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

I had no reason to end up in comedy. I had figured out a functional life beyond, you know, beyond, like, my own education.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Right.

[Langston Kerman]

And I do think without a parent, both of my parents, in a lot of ways, being the type of people that are like, fuck it. This is what I want to do. Yeah. I would not have ended up this way. Like, they truly taught me how to be, like, no, Live a life. Life. There. There is nothing else but you going to exist. And if you don't commit to that, then you're not committing to anything. I will cherish it always. Let's talk about the choices. Let's just focus on. We can harness this strength.

[David]

Sure.

[Langston Kerman]

We can be free together.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I think this. Sometimes you wonder, though, it's like, can your parents harness? They got what they got, and then it's just up to you to Harness it a little more, and then the next one's gonna harness it a little more. You know what I mean? And then like three generations. Now you got. Now you got a Goku.

[Langston Kerman]

That sucks that it's gonna take three generations for us to end up at Goku. Goku's a man. Goku's. Goku's.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

That's pretty good.

[Langston Kerman]

That's pretty good.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

A lot of people don't ever get. You know how many families got no Goku?

[Langston Kerman]

That's true.

[David]

Most of them.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, most of them. Bunch of Chi Chis.

[Langston Kerman]

All right.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

This was as good as I could do with anime. I'm trying to relate to my friend, and I think I did a pretty good job.

[David]

Do you have the thing where you're not an anime guy?

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

No. I watched Dragon Ball as a little kid, and then I watched Dragon Ball Z when it was on Cartoon Network. Yeah. Who is a little boy and he wraps it.

[Langston Kerman]

Be careful. Come on.

[David]

Is that not what the monkey tanky?

[Langston Kerman]

Well, he's part the of monkey. Let's.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

And again.

[Langston Kerman]

You're being nasty. You're being nasty.

[David]

How am I being nasty if he's a little boy with a monkey tail?

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Relax.

[David]

And I'm saying he's part monkey.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Relax. How is that crazy?

[Langston Kerman]

You're being crazy. Stop what you're doing.

[David]

Which part is bad?

[Langston Kerman]

I'm trying to stop you. And you keep saying it. You're being nasty.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

He's not a monkey.

[Langston Kerman]

He's a Saiyan. He comes from a different planet.

[David]

Okay, but what is the tail then?

[Langston Kerman]

The tail is their. That's the Saiyan tail.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

They all got.

[Langston Kerman]

They're proud people.

[David]

They all got tail?

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, they all got tails. I love you so much. He's a monkey.

[David]

No, no, no, no.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

He turns it. He turns into a monkey.

[Langston Kerman]

In the movie, he turns into an.

[David]

8, which is a form of monkey.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

No, no, no.

[Langston Kerman]

You're being. You guys are being crazy. In the show.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Let me.

[Langston Kerman]

The main villain of the show goes by the name of Frieza. Frieza is a galaxy dominating force. The strongest motherfucker to ever exist who destroyed the Saiyan planet because of the threat that they represented to him. He didn't like how strong these motherfuckers are.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Like Planet of the Apes.

[Langston Kerman]

He blew the shit up and all he does is call them monkeys. It's an allegory for racism and sort of the violence. Violence against the people.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Okay, let's take our.

[David]

You take our foot off the gas. Yeah, I would say that as well.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

First of all, we didn't call you a monkey. I need you to not behave as such. Okay? That's what it is. That's what it is. That's what it. It is.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm the Goku of my family.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Okay, okay, now I understand. I understand. Okay, I'm hitting my ass right now.

[Langston Kerman]

But I'm gonna come back strong.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

No, no, you're over 9,000.

[David]

For all the. If. If it isn't. If it is an allegory, that's pretty good. If it is an allegory for racism, I will say it is. Like, as much racism has been hurled at black people forever, I will say, if we actually had some of the same stuff that a monkey had, if we had tails.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Okay, you do need to watch yourself. You're going crazy. You are going crazy.

[David]

No, but all I'm saying is, if we had this and they're like, oh, yeah, you guys kind of have the same stuff going on, I'd be like, well, I see. Like, it's in the way that it's been thrown at black people is obviously racist and fucked and unfair and, like, unkind. But, like, I get how that association could be made if you have the exact same appendage.

[Langston Kerman]

I'd ask you to stop tooting your butt up in our podcast. And I ask.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

This is maybe our most complicated episode yet.

[Langston Kerman]

I'd ask you all to behave for some reason.

[David]

Sure.

[Langston Kerman]

I understand that you are ignorant to the Dragon Ball universe.

[David]

I've watched a lot of Dragon Ball, actually.

[Langston Kerman]

The fact that it's just a lot means that you ain't really with the.

[David]

Sure, I'm not either. I mean, there's like, 500 episodes.

[Langston Kerman]

Watched it all.

[David]

Yeah, I've seen. I mean, I grew up during the.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Time when it was dead zone and all that.

[Langston Kerman]

There ain't a one I ain't caught.

[David]

I had the video game. I had the one on PS2, Budokan.

[Langston Kerman]

They not good, but it was a game.

[David]

Yeah, I played it. I got that in Barbershop 2 or. No, no, Barbershop. No, no, no. That'd be tight.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Was that, like, on one blanket in front of a supermarket?

[David]

I got. I got that and barbershop the DVD for, like, my sixth grade birthday, for, like, my 12th birthday.

[Langston Kerman]

Whoa.

[David]

I got Dragon Ball Z. No, I was.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I was. Yeah, I was doing.

[David]

I was doing it.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, you went crazy.

[David]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was doing good.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, Barbershop really hit like a wave.

[Langston Kerman]

It's crazy. I will say.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Oh, yeah, you're from Chicago. Do you guys love Barbershop as much as everybody else.

[Langston Kerman]

I don't think that that's part of the Chicago lore.

[David]

Oh, really?

[Langston Kerman]

Is that we. We feel deeply connected to the barbershop franchise. It was not. Not. And Joelle, if you disagree, I'd love for you to chime in. It wasn't at all a part of. They weren't tracking Chicago when they made that movie. They shot it there. But they weren't like, being like, we gotta be respectful of, like, all of what Chicago represents. We gonna honor the gangs and the counselors. You know what I mean? Like, it was just like, it's Chicago.

[David]

It just happened to be there.

[Langston Kerman]

It was Ice Cube's interpretation of Chicago. And so in that way.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

That's better than Young Jock.

[Langston Kerman]

That is better than young Jock. Yeah.

[David]

By a lot.

[Langston Kerman]

By a lot. Your dad.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Sorry.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm just trying to get us.

[David]

You're right.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Let's do it.

[Langston Kerman]

Wherever we were, your dad sort of threatening you, warning you that you should not take this medication, to me does feel complicated. That's where I do worry that while I do agree with the sentiment of, nah, it was crazy how we treated differently abled children, in some ways it does feel like, fuck, hey, man, you gotta give people the help that they need, regardless of what the world is gonna put on them.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

It's a difficult thing because it's like, now he's perpetuating the third and a half floor.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

But it's like, that is such a tough. That is such a tough thing to wonder how you could get a parent to trust in that when his own personal experience is so visceral and he's on the point of like, he's like, I'm for real trying. You're my son. I just don't want you to get iced out of a future.

[David]

True.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

You know what I mean? Like, do you think in like post high school, do you think your dad is softened as a. Like, do you say, dad, I have ADHD now?

[David]

No. I mean, I wouldn't.

[Commercial Announcer]

No.

[Langston Kerman]

What if this is you coming out to your dad?

[David]

Dad. My dad, you know, my dad has softened in a lot of ways, but I do feel like he's also still just like he's from where he's from and he's from the time that he's from. I had a pair of pink sneakers and my dad was like, son, I know you're by bisexual.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

That's so funny. That's so funny. That's so funny.

[David]

So it's like, I just don't know if we could get There on, like, a mental diagnosis level that's just not.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Well, what was the tone, though? Was he mad?

[David]

Or was he like, hey, he was very excited. My dad has thought. My dad's thought I was gay many times.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

That must be hard for you. Cause you're so tall. I feel like if your son's as tall as he does.

[Langston Kerman]

Sure.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

And you were athletic, right? Yeah, he was like, no.

[David]

Third floor.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. You think Magic Johnson is having the hardest time?

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I think he didn't see it coming.

[Langston Kerman]

EJ is big.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Huge.

[Langston Kerman]

That's a big motherfucker.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I mean, he's the son of Magic. Magic's huge. Too large for his position.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's. He's arguably one of the biggest that's ever played that position.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I mean. That's his whole thing.

[Langston Kerman]

They want him to.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

The point is, was your dad, like, pink sneakers? I love you. Welcome home.

[David]

It was not hatred, but it's like, there's a path. Okay, can we. Let's draw the path of my father's homophobia. Okay. So, like, first.

[Langston Kerman]

All right.

[David]

The first memory I have of it is when I was really little, when I was, like, in preschool, we had, like, at the daycare I went to, they had, like, a cooking set, like a kitchen set, where you. You could put little fake eggs on the stove. And I really liked it a lot, so I asked for one for Christmas.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

For a kitchen set?

[David]

Yeah, for a little kitchen set. Cause I liked it at daycare. I'm probably five, four or five years old at this point. I'm super little.

[Langston Kerman]

This is what's been provided for you. You enjoy it. You would like to replicate that feeling?

[David]

Yeah. I'm like, let me get one for the house. Little fake orange juice. Like, I want to cook. Like, y' all cook. Like, da, da, da. I remember that Christmas. I got a barbecue grill. I got, like, a fake barbecue grill.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Oh, I thought you got a real, You know, son of mine cooking fake meat.

[Langston Kerman]

Nah.

[David]

You gonna go out, you put some steak on the grill.

[Langston Kerman]

Like, son, we use charcoal in this house. Ain't gonna be no propane tank.

[David]

And, like, I liked my fake grill. Like, I really did enjoy it. But I was like, oh, this is different. But I guess, like, it's. I'm still fake cooking shit.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Right, Right.

[David]

And then I talked to my mom later on down the line, and she was basically like, yeah, your dad thought, like, a cooking set was. He thought her cooking said it was gay. So he was like, a man Grills. And so you can fake grill to prepare you for what you'll actually do as an adult.

[Langston Kerman]

He was bottom of the barrel homophobic at one point. And you're saying the transition has now made it so that he can see you in pink sneakers and land on bisexual?

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah.

[David]

And just be like, son. I mean, I know he's seen me date women, so he knows that I'm.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

At least.

[Langston Kerman]

He's like, thank God you at least have a taste for pussy. You don't gotta eat it every day. That's fine, son, but diversity, you can.

[David]

Diversify if you need to, but.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Right, right.

[Langston Kerman]

But if some pussy get thrown at you, you ain't gonna run from it. Okay, I can live with this.

[David]

Yeah. So it was that. And then it was like, oh, one time, I was at my house with this other kid named Jonathan I used to do karate with. And we were like, truly. We were sitting on the same couch. We're sitting on the same couch, but we had a big blanket. And the blanket was over the whole couch. It was like a sectional couch.

[Langston Kerman]

Sure.

[David]

I'm on this side of the couch.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

You're black in the early aughts. We know it was a sectional.

[David]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It was one of the pigs. A big cloth couch that went all the way around. And I remember my dad coming out, seeing we just two boys under the same blanket. My Dale, he took the shit off, and he was like, y' all not about to be. Y' all don't need to be underneath the blank. Like. So that's. So that's five is the grill. Yeah, that happens at, like. I'm probably like 10 at that point. He snatches the blank. He's like, why, boy? Y' all boys don't need to be under the blanket.

[Langston Kerman]

Your legs ain't cold.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

This is Texas.

[David]

When. When I'm 18, I come home from college, and my homie, like, really likes to cook. And he had, like, a really.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

He was like, this is a Fisher Price set all over again.

[Langston Kerman]

And see, that's why I didn't get it for him.

[David]

My homie really likes to cook. He was like, yo. He was like, I just made. I just figured out this lasagna. He was like. He was like, can I come over and make it? So my homie made lasagna at my house. And my dad. This is. I'm a freshman in college.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David]

My dad found out that my homie made lasagna at the house, and he sat me down. He was like, son, if there's ever anything you need to talk to me about, if there's. If you want to use. Like, you got niggas over here making pasta dishes. You got niggas over here making pasta dishes. If there's anything that you want to talk to me about, then let's. Then let's just have that conversation.

[Langston Kerman]

He's like, son, did that boy put his period blood in your lasagna because you might be cursed?

[David]

It's all real stuff. It's all real stuff.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Oh, that's so funny, man.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Cause he had to get that call, like, at work or something, and he's like, he did what? Yeah, came over with what? The boy only been in college nine months, Mr. Randall.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm gonna have to take the rest of the day off, man. I gotta go deal with some. My son, he let a boy cook lasagna in his house. His boss is like, oh, God, get out of here.

[David]

It would be a very funny euphemism for somebody being gay. You know what I'm saying? If you know somebody like, oh, he's a little light in the loafers. Oh, did they be cooking lasagna in his house?

[Langston Kerman]

I bet he. He lets men prep a meal in his kitchen, if you know what I mean.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Oh, man, that's so funny. Yeah. Sounds like a good guy, though.

[David]

No, he's. He. He means well. Yeah, he means well. He's just. He's from a time.

[Langston Kerman]

All right, we. We need to take one more break. We're going to be back with more Devin Walker. More my ma.

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[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

And me want you to come back and watch this podcast. Welcome back to My Mama Told Me.

[Langston Kerman]

Do you think, and I asked this to both of you, do you think that there still is a lingering threat of diagnosis of black kids? Like, do we feel like there is some remaining truth in the way that we acknowledged our three and a half floor did exist or fucking the portables? The portables exist. Do we still worry that by diagnosing black children, especially too early, we are somehow empowering them to be targets for separation?

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

And I think there's a million places that the system can catch the little black boys. I think that that is like as far as we've come. I think that's probably always going to be the case. So like, I'm hesitant to say that. I don't think diagnosis is like, cause obviously get the people the help they need, like you said. But I think it's like, man, if you're a little black boy and that's in the system, like you fall off for anything. You know what I mean? You could really get out of here on anything. So like, do I think there's still, like, it's reasonable to be hesitant? Yeah, I always, always, always just the system we see how it's designed. Right. You know what I mean?

[David]

And I do. I mean, I feel like it really is so much a story, just like anything else, of just like, all right, like, where is this black boy at? You know what I'm saying? And, like, what does his family have, like, access to?

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah. What school does he go to? Who are the other kids in the class who are being diagnosed with adhd? Right. I think there's, like, a lot of.

[Langston Kerman]

A lot of that I read. I listened to a thing the other day that was talking about, about people who get, like, Adderall as kids and sort of tracking the progress that they make over, like, a big larger span of time that, like, there's all this evidence of, like, immediate turnarounds for kids that start taking, you know, ADHD drugs. But there's not as much statistics on, like, what happens beyond the immediate reactions. And a lot of what they found is, statistically, those students do not. Not end up doing better than they were previously doing, really. They have, like, these sort of spikes, but then they eventually sort of find their way back to a, like, not, you know, stellar level in their school. Exactly. And so I. I wonder how much of these medications were even still going to be activating the same way that we were activating it. Time where, like, it was an immediate solve to a problem. I think people are now. And, you know, some of it is the anti vax shit, some of it is, like the anti medication movement, whatever it is. But some of it is very real, too, where you go, like, well, I don't actually know that a drug that sort of changes your, you know, your brain chemistry is the solution to. In your. In your last lasting life. I also think temporary, but not forever, to be fair.

[David]

I never got on. I never got on any type of medication.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David]

And I do feel like some of that, like, kind of stuck, you know what I'm saying? Like, I just came off of, like, three years of working at a place where I was, like, depressed all the time.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah.

[David]

You know what I'm saying? It was just like, honestly, like, I really do want to, like, I would like to at some point, like, fully talk about that experience, but it's like the. The, like, news. News publications keep picking shit up that I say in different places in a way that makes me want to. To not.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Don't worry, they don't listen to this. The news.

[Langston Kerman]

We got Don Lemon.

[David]

Don, I'll come on and talk to you on your news program.

[Langston Kerman]

We'll.

[David]

We'll break it down. But, yeah, Even, even, like through all that, where I was like, really depressed, really in like a dark, dark space, like, I never, I never could do it.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Some.

[David]

Something that, like, little piece of what my dad was telling me is like still in there where it's like, you don't need to be on them drugs. Like, that's going to lead you down like a weird path. I still, I still won't do it.

[Langston Kerman]

And I do think the bigger problem was how unwilling we were to diagnose people.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Right.

[Langston Kerman]

Like, I think there was a culture to not even put a label on a lot of the kids that we put on the third and a half floor and instead just put them up there because they were behavioral issues. You know what I mean? Like, oh, you, you suck to teach, therefore you need to be separated. And that I think is an actual, like violence against. Against people. But I do think empowering people to understand, yo, this is what you're experiencing and there are other people who are experiencing it and here are options for how they've solved it is what everybody should be presented with.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

It's not.

[Langston Kerman]

The drug is the solution. It's. Hey, the drug is an option and should you choose it, this is what the could happen. Right?

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Right.

[Langston Kerman]

And I think unfortunately we went from not diagnosing motherfucking to then diagnosing them a fuck ton, but only giving them one option to resolving it. And I'm hoping we're heading towards like, hey, there are eight options, bro.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, no, that's what you. Because I think also systemically for little black boys, behavioral problems are just like kind of just a part of being in the system. Right?

[David]

Sure.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Like, so that's what I worry where.

[David]

It'S like, that's the quickest thing, yo, bro, like, if you're like antisocial personality disorder or whatever.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I was talking to my mom recently and she was talking how she had multiple teachers come at her with kind of crazy shit. And it was just from being a little black boy, being like, I'm not particularly poorly behaved or anything like that.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

You know what I mean? But it's like so like, that's my worry is like you were. You're like sweeping up all these kids because behavioral shit.

[Langston Kerman]

How many of these badass kids that school would do better if their mom just didn't have to work late?

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, for true.

[David]

You know what I mean? They just had like access to vegetables, bro. You know what I'm saying?

[Langston Kerman]

If you just gave them basic resources and like a sincere connection with all parties that are involved I bet they can get to a place where, like, some of that shit chills out for sure. And you are just so lacking in empathy with, like, their actual lived experience that you go, I gotta put a drug in that.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

We gotta change the chemistry of that person, because otherwise they should not. They can't even, like, be educated. They're animals to me. So, yeah, I get why motherfuckers are wary of the thing. And I think. I wish we could. We had other solutions without calling the thing evil.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, right.

[Langston Kerman]

Like, I think both. It doesn't have to be. That thing doesn't have to be fully evil, but it doesn't mean it's good for everybody. And everybody should be allowed the choice to decide if that's for sure.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

To all that, though, to your dad, your dad's point, I do think there was a time you had to be a lot more weary of it. And I understand him, like, in his time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like. Well, maybe not all the way, I guess, correct. Which was correct or not correct, but, like, was like, a real understandable fear.

[Langston Kerman]

And you gotta think about what his dad taught him.

[David]

Oh, my God.

[Langston Kerman]

You know what I mean? He's like, man, if you say that, they gonna shoot you in the woods, bro.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

You had a boy make it for you. His dad thought he was gay just for knowing what lasagna was. He said, what?

[Langston Kerman]

Hey, you pronounce that G in this house? It's Lizagna. Ain't no goddamn Frenchman.

[David]

Oh, man, I do got a diff. But, like, yeah, no, did y' all just really quick. Did y'.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

All.

[David]

Did yalls moms ever hit y' all with this type of stuff? Like, did yalls moms ever hit you with, like, you're gay because you did, like, blank.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Oh, you know what's crazy? My mom never did. Yeah, my stepdad was nasty and joke about, like, of course not even, like, hit me with, like, anything that I did, but he would just be like, you know, it's okay if you're gay, which is, like, a very evil.

[David]

Yes.

[Langston Kerman]

That's mean.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

And it's just, like, a very nasty thing to do to a person. But no, my mom, because my mom always, like, when I was little, her friend came out as lesbian, and she was trinny. So it was like, her mom had a tough, tough time with it.

[David]

Oh, she was Trinidadian.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah. Yeah. So my. So, like, my mom.

[Langston Kerman]

I thought he was mispronouncing something.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

That's hilarious.

[David]

I was like, whoa. I was like, I know y' all talk crazy on this podcast, but I.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Didn'T know it was.

[Langston Kerman]

I was like.

[David]

I didn't know we was there, brother.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Stick around.

[Langston Kerman]

We do our hate speech with accent. Yeah, it makes it more fun.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

But to all that, that was, like, a huge thing when she was young and my mom got here young, so it was like, my mom, she's just really open to that.

[David]

Gotcha.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Mom's a really open person to all that type of stuff.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. My mom's best friend from growing up was a trans woman. Is a trans woman. And I think in that way, my mom didn't have progressive, sort of, like, necessarily responses to all of it, but she was fully like, that's still my friend.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My mom's always been.

[Langston Kerman]

She's.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

She's, like, wide open for shit like that.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Progressive. Devin, this was crazy.

[Langston Kerman]

This was really fun, man. This was chaotic. Wind of an episode.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I like it.

[Langston Kerman]

I really. We couldn't be more grateful you were here. Could you tell the people where they could find you? What cool shit you got going on?

[David]

Y' all go follow my podcast. It's called My Favorite Lyrics. Langston has done an episode. One of my favorite episodes we did on the pod. David did an episode that we did recently that should be out. Not sure when this is coming out, but it should be out soon. Check out My favorite lyrics wherever you listen to podcasts. Spotify, Instagram, TikTok. It's on all that stuff. And. Yeah, that's it.

[Langston Kerman]

A very fun podcast, I must say.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Yeah, I had a good time.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Backdrop, what you got?

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

I don't know when this comes out. Oh, December 12th and 13th. See me at Sports Drink in New Orleans. Yeah. Pull up. That's gonna be fun. That's not a state for the year.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I have a few dates coming coming up. I'm gonna be in New York. I'm gonna be in Chicago December 4th. I added the date. Chicago. You've been bitching and moaning.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Come see us.

[Langston Kerman]

Because it hurts to be back there. But guess what? I'm coming back December 4th. Pull up then.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

He's bringing lasagna.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm bringing lasagna. And if this comes out after that, then I'm deeply embarrassed. That said, I've got a bunch of dates still left. And you can see all of [e-mail] and you can follow us. You can, like, subscribe, rate, review, do with all that.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

That.

[Langston Kerman]

Give us an email at my Mama Pot Gmail dot com. Give us a call at eight. Four four little moms. Give yourself a high five. Bye. Put your mouth right over that hole.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Put your mouth there.

[Langston Kerman]

My Mama Told Me is a production of Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

And I Heart Podcast, created and hosted.

[Langston Kerman]

By Langston Kearney co hosted by David.

[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

Bore executive produced by Will Ferrell, Hans Sani and Joel Monique co produced by Bay Wang Edited and engineered by Justin.

[Langston Kerman]

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[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

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[Co-host (possibly David Bore)]

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[Langston Kerman]

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[Langston Kerman]

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