MTGM EXTRA! "I miss home so much."

Summary

Podcast Summary: My Therapist Ghosted Me – MTGM EXTRA! "I Miss Home So Much."

Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Date: January 21, 2026
Episode Theme: Navigating homesickness, the realities of living abroad, and candid takes on beauty, surgery, and personal growth—all with the trademark honesty and wit of Vogue and Joanne.

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Episode Overview

This bonus episode explores feelings of homesickness while living away from Ireland, with hosts Vogue and Joanne tackling dilemmas sent in by listeners. The conversation meanders through beauty "tweakments," plastic surgery trends, and honest discussions about self-image before delving into heartfelt advice for homesick expats and people exploring their sexuality. As always, the hosts infuse the chat with irreverent humor and sharp observations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Age, Beauty Trends, and Procedures (00:14–11:00)

• Blepharoplasty and Brow Lifts: The pair start off humorously discussing aging eyelids and misconceptions around surgical procedures.

• Joanne shares:

  "Now when I wake up as a 42-year-old woman, my eyelids are preparing me for death—I have to kind of wind them open." (02:18, Joanne)

• Vogue elaborates on the rising trend in brow lifts, mentioning celebrities (Emma Stone, Kendall Jenner) and the pressure created by before-and-after photos online (03:34).

• Both stress the importance of thoroughly thinking through invasive surgery:

  "It's not a throwaway thing... It's not like going in and getting Botox." (04:37, Vogue)

• Social Media and Beauty Pressures: The hosts question the “normalizing” of plastic surgery in younger people, noting how influencers and celebrities navigate the topic by not disclosing tweaks.

  "If someone doesn't want to talk about getting plastic surgery... that's totally fine. It took me ages to say that I got Botox because I didn't want to be labelled 'Botox girl.'" (05:19, Vogue)

• Home Beauty Gadgets & Ice Bath Trends: They banter about beauty gadgets like face-icing units, sharing stories of childhood trauma related to water and swimming lessons (06:41).

  "It was the most traumatic... like I was getting waterboarded." (07:13, Vogue)

• Surgery Ethic & Young Listeners: The ethics around surgeons performing procedures on people as young as 32 is explored, with Vogue and Joanne expressing concern (08:46–09:08).

2. Childhood Mishaps & Risky Adventures (11:04–12:15)

• The hosts swap vivid stories about hazardous childhood games—darts to the eye, fishing mishaps, golf net accidents—underscoring how dangerous play can be growing up.

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3. Listener Dilemma: "I Miss Home So Much" (12:15–18:35)

(12:15–17:27) Anxious in Dubai

A listener, in her mid-20s, seeks advice about whether to stay in Dubai for career and lifestyle opportunities or follow her heart and return home to Ireland, where her family and emotional comfort lie.

• She describes deep homesickness, a supportive family, career questions, and the unique opportunities Dubai offers, balanced against the lack of financial benefit compared to working in Ireland.

Vogue & Joanne’s Advice

• Vogue is direct:

  "Well, then you should move home. That's it. You should move on. Because you just—you can't be using the stuff they have out there." (14:28, Vogue)

• Joanne is empathetic:

  "This feels like she wants to move home... You don't have to force yourself to stay for another year." (14:39, Joanne)

• Both discuss how “settling” doesn’t have to be permanent, and the importance of not missing family moments if that’s where your heart is.
• Real talk about finances: If Dubai isn't delivering a financial advantage, there's little reason to stay if you miss home so much.
• Joanne sums up the freedom of your 20s:

  "You always feel like you've less time than you have... In your early 20s and 30s, this is the time to explore. But don't put yourself through any hardship you don't need to." (16:21, Joanne)

Empowerment & Perspective

• Both emphasize there's no shame in moving home and that it's "all to play for" at a young age—Dubai isn't going anywhere, opportunities can always be found elsewhere.

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4. Mini Dilemmas: Coming Out & Sexuality (18:40–21:13)

(18:40–20:43) Listener: Coming Out as Gay

• A listener writes in about realizing her sexuality and finding love with a woman, after long believing she was straight. She expresses a mix of tears, excitement, and nerves about coming out.

• Joanne on not fancying every lesbian friend:

  "I feel sorry for lesbians who have female friends. They're like, I do not fancy you. And we're all like, why not me? 'Yeah, cause you're in bits!'" (19:25, Joanne)

• Supportive words:

  "The first step is realizing you're gay...you'll feel more comfortable. The next step is telling your mates and then tell your family... you'll just realize that it's better everyone knows and you'll feel so good about yourself." (20:19, Vogue)

• Joanne speculates, only half-joking:

  "I'd say half the husbands in Ireland are gay." (21:12, Joanne)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Age & Self-talk:

  "I'm gonna stop referring to my age...I'm not doing it anymore. It hammers home too much." (02:29, Joanne)

• On Social Pressure:

  "We're all gorgeous the way we are... especially with all the extra bits." (08:29, Joanne)

• On Moving Home:

  "There's no failure in going home... Dubai's not going anywhere. You can go back." (16:52, Joanne)

• Classic Banter:

  "Are you gay? He's my husband. That means nothing!" (21:46, Joanne)
  "Joanne just lurks around the gym looking over men's shoulders to see that they're on Grinder." (21:40, Vogue)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:14–11:00 | Beauty, Surgery, and Social Pressures
• 11:04–12:15 | Childhood Disasters and Family Antics
• 12:15–17:27 | Dubai Homesickness Dilemma & Advice
• 18:40–21:13 | Coming Out & Support for LGBTQ+ Listeners

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Tone & Style

The episode is warm, irreverent, brutally honest, and deeply genuine—balancing practical advice with playful self-deprecation and the uniquely supportive friendship dynamic between Vogue and Joanne.

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In summary:
This episode is a heartfelt but hilarious look at how self-image, homesickness, and personal decisions can shape our lives, with the hosts offering candid, empathetic advice that makes listeners feel seen and supported—even if sometimes they're laughing through the tears.

Transcript

[A]

This is a Global Player original podcast.

[B]

Hello, and welcome to. My therapist ghosted me the bonus episode.

[A]

With me, Vogue Williams, and it's Joanne McNally.

[B]

Is it?

[A]

It is. I know, I know. It's morning time. I know what you're thinking. She needs to get her blast done.

[B]

No, no, no. We were just having a little conversation about the bluffs and. And the bits and the bobs and in the mornings.

[A]

Now, my eyes.

[B]

Sorry, translation bless. What? Oh, blaster. Like the skin above your eyelids kind of thing. And like, a lot of people get bleph surgery and a lot of people when they don't need it, like Joanne, you do not need it. But Joanne lives in the Bronx. Oh, my gosh, the Bronx. The Bronx is probably gentrified now as well.

[A]

It's Clapham, it's southwest London. It's every time we record this podcast remotely, which is pretty much all the time now. Sorry. You know, the whole Greenland thing, I'm trying to keep. Every day I wake up and there's something. Do you know what I will say as well? With so much information now, like, there's. This has been going on since time began war and. But we didn't have so much access to it because sometimes it can feel quite overwhelming. You wake up, we're like, oh, for sake. I know what's going on now, but you know that Trump is offering everyone in Greenland 100 grand.

[B]

He is so wild, but he's so serious about it.

[A]

And you're like, yeah, he's moving. There's no lanes for him. He's like, oh, yeah, she will buy green light.

[B]

No, but.

[A]

But I will say. And like again, me and Vogue are very aware. Staying in our lane. He's saying he thinks Russia is going to take it and that he. Apparently he's trying to protect. There is. There is methods to his. You know, it's all kicking off. Anyway, look, let's focus on Venezuela.

[B]

He's really trying to help them. They just happen to have loads of oil. Well, I do think that's lucky. Isn't that lucky?

[A]

So I've spoken to a couple of Venezuelans and they say it's. They're delighted that it's happened.

[B]

I think we're probably. And if you would like any more political conversations from Joanne and I, we are actually creating a new podcast on the side which is called Fog. And you on to politics, the ignorant witches. Yeah. Back to things we do know. So come here to me. Bless loads of people.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

From Trump to bla.

[A]

What I was. What I was Saying was that now when I wake up as a 42 year old woman, my eyelids, it's are preparing me for death because I have to kind of wind them open now and there's a lot of, well, I.

[B]

Have one heavy eye and it's always been like that. But I, I, I'm. First of all one thing because you just said it there and I keep saying it, I'm gonna stop referring to my age and you should too as a 40 year old woman. Oh, now that I'm 40 now, I'm not doing it anymore. I'm not, it hammers home too much. I don't need to do it. I'm just, whatever.

[A]

She's already in denial. She's only hit the chapter and she's already starting to deny it like a Jesus.

[B]

Anyway, I'm not in denial, but so brow lifts. So I was chatting with this plastic surgeon. I actually, I've been lucky enough to sit beside two plastic surgeons in my life and one of them was showing me pictures of, of things, this American one, and he was absolutely brilliant. This other guy from Ireland, it's the Hansen Clinic. And he was telling me about like people, like there's a lot of brow lifts happening. So you think people are getting bless, which is a thing that's done to their eyelids, but a lot of people are getting little brow lifts which just go like if you look at Emma Stone now, I don't know if she has, she hasn't come out and said she did. Emma Stone, Kendall Jenner, like all these people whose eyebrows are just, it's brow lifts. So I just felt like I came across that nugget of information.

[A]

I was like, yeah, that it's not the bless, it's the brow. I mean, I will say, and like, you know me now, I love a tweakment and all that jazz. And I, I've said openly at some stage I will probably go travel to Korea and get a facelift because it's just what people do now, isn't it?

[B]

I'm just, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna go homesense. Sorry.

[A]

It's like going to homesense at this stage. People just nipping in, getting a whole new face lifted on, taken off, removed. Yeah, if you can get in with Chris Jenner. But, but I will say I know a woman who's going in to get a full facelift. She's someone, I know my personal private life. And she is 32 and even I, you know, why does middle age, why.

[B]

Does she want to get that she.

[A]

Because this is what happens, you see. And I sent her and I was like, look, I'm not, I'm not trying to. You're. You've made your decisions, you're going to do what you're going to do. But I sent her because I think now because there's so much stunning before and afters that people don't see. We're not looking at the bad stuff.

[B]

There's lots of. You have to be so powerful.

[A]

But also the. It's. It's a very invasive procedure and so weeks recovery and it's incredibly painful. So I was sending her links to stuff on Tik Tok where it shows people like talking about the pain or talk just like, just. It's not a throwaway thing. You know, it's not like going in and getting.

[B]

Yeah, you have to, you really have to think about it. But I saw that. Yeah, think about it for a minute. It's like when you go into a shop, you see a nice jacket, you say, I'm not spending that on the jacket. And you leave the shop and you're thinking about the jacket. Then you go to another shop and you're still thinking about the jacket. Buy the third shop. I'm going back to get the jacket.

[A]

If it's still in. Yeah, if your new face is still in your basket the next morning, I guess is what we're saying.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. But should you see that thing Kendall Jenner did and listen, if someone, if someone doesn't want to talk about getting plastic surgery or anything like that, that's totally fine. It took me ages to say that I got Botox because I didn't want to be labeled Botox girl. But Kendall Jenner was doing this podcast and she's like, no, I' never ever had plastic surgery. And if you see her nose before and after, it's like you. But you have. Like when it's that obvious you have.

[A]

I would see, I think, wonder are they getting away with it because it's like a lift or so. You know, the way pl. The term plastic surgery. There's a lot you can do without plastic surgery as such. So they're probably using it as a kind of get out clause.

[B]

You know, maybe surgery is adding stuff and just surgery is when you take stuff away. But if you're adding stuff like a tit, then it's plastic surgery.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know is the God's honest truth.

[B]

But it's none of our business if she wants to lie and say that she's like, I don't know, Barney the dinosaur. She's well within her rights. None of my business.

[A]

They're looking, they're looking great for whatever they're doing.

[B]

We've no evidence that it's a lie at all. Exactly. Now, what I. Well, it's photographic evidence, in my opinion. But anyway, stopping. Bitchy folk. Did you see the thing? I nearly bought us one each. And I think I will because I think I'll buy you a gift, especially now that you've said that this morning. Did you see the ice bath thing that people are putting their faces in and there's a little thing that you breathe through?

[A]

I did, Yeah.

[B]

I mean, 80 quid, but you have to get them from America. And I was like, I nearly bought it. It was in the basket. And I said, what about import fees? So I'm going to wait until I come.

[A]

Sorry, have you seen this joke? So, you know, so there's a kind of a trend in beauty. You put your mouth. It's like a snort. It's like snorkel equipment. Snorkeling in ice to ice bath your face. Now, it took me, my father, God rest us all, etc took. Took him. I remember evenings up in the bathroom sink in the yellow mustard 80s bathroom with the brown carpet upstairs in the old house.

[B]

Gorgeous.

[A]

And I'd have goggles on and my father be trying to teach me to keep my head under the water. And it was the most traumatic. It was like getting it. I, I was actually like, I was getting waterboarded. Even though, like, he wasn't actually like putting my head under or anything, but I. It took me so long to learn how to put my head under the water that even watching her, or sorry.

[B]

Even watching, couldn't do that.

[A]

Even watching them use that little tiny snorkel for the underline under face ice bath brought me out in hives.

[B]

Oh, I think I'm going to get it. I just, I think that ice is so good for your face. And sometimes I think those ice sticks that you put in the freezer stick to me.

[A]

But then I was using. I was using an ice stick once. Then super, super Opie, who does my hair makeup in Ireland, messaged me and she's like, stop doing that, it's going to bring out your rosace. One person tells you something, someone else tells you. But I do know that obviously ice is good for swelling and puffiness. And puffiness, yes. Now, I've not. I have never once in my adult life seen you with an inch of puffiness. In your face. Look at mine. Even today I look like I'm having a cortisol meltdown.

[B]

I'll show you. I'll send you a picture tomorrow of the eye. Because my eye is very. One of my eyes is very puffy in the morning. Anyway, we shouldn't be. Let's. Let's not talk about any more. We're all gorgeous the way we are and especially with all the extra bits they say.

[A]

Yeah. After poking in for a facelift and buying an under snorkel equipment to ice our faces in the morning, we're all.

[B]

No, we are. We're all gorgeous how we are. I've just had my. I've just had my Botox done.

[A]

We need to stop where we talk about. We talk about tweakments too much. We have young listeners.

[B]

Yeah. This is not right.

[A]

It's not right.

[B]

32 though, getting a.

[A]

It's crazy, isn't it?

[B]

I think that's unethical to be given someone like that. A facelift.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Lift.

[A]

But like. Yeah, I know what you're saying but I mean the age paid. The, the age. What's it called when there's an age. Sorry, the age limit on my stand up show is 14 plus. I've realized the other day and I think that's quite an ethical.

[B]

Oh, I don't. Yeah. I wouldn't want my 14 year old.

[A]

Can'T see, you know, not so 15.

[B]

Year old boy take it.

[A]

Yeah. Do you know what I mean? So, but I mean if the business is there, like that's not me. So I think we should up the age of my show. But I mean if the business is there, that doctor's not going to say. And also I think it takes. I, that's. I love when you hear the people going in looking for treatment treatments or treat treatments and the doctor says you don't need it. I love her.

[B]

Do you know Amber went to get her eyes done and nothing that you had done before and your mom was like, I'm not doing it, you don't need it. And I was, no way. I, I actually think she does need it though. She is, she's wearing glasses all the time and I'm like, I don't really understand where that's coming. He's like, you don't need it. And so he wouldn't do it for her.

[A]

The fish. Cheers.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no. The. Where you like do your. Where you can't see properly and they lift your. Like they laser your eyeballs.

[A]

Oh, laser eye surgery. Oh, sorry. Oh, wow.

[B]

Really? That's a big. That's a big water cash to be. To be missing out on.

[A]

And he said, you don't need us.

[B]

Yeah, he said. And I think she might need it. But anyway, maybe he just didn't like her.

[A]

God, that's crazy. I've never heard something getting turned down for laser eye surgery.

[B]

I. Oh, my God. This girl told me a story about. Sorry, she only told me yesterday. And that's why it reminds me, we're talking about eyes. So they were young. There's this family she was friends with. They were all quite young. Like. I mean, they were like 9, 10, 12. That kind of age. This family. And the boys were playing darts and the sister was told to hold the dartboard because they hadn't hung it up. So she's holding the dartboard. And then she came out from the side and said, are you finished? And he threw a dart in her eye. Yeah. Lost the eye. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. Imagine the pain. Anything. Remember Otto stabbed me in the eye? I'll never forget that pain. I'll never forget how painful that was. I think you just faint.

[A]

I do remember he did that to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Oh, my God.

[B]

I know. Any eyeballs are just. They're just not a great. They're like. I read this book. Oh, it was so long as well. Jesus. And now I've forgotten what it's called. But me, never again. And guy, his eyes were torn out and I was like, oh, got anything to do with eyes? Just freaks me out. I can't stand them.

[A]

A child holding dartboard is never going to end well, is it?

[B]

No, I know, but like, I remember Amber used to. My brother had this golf net he got from Santa. And Amber stood at the back and put her hands through it and was like taunting Frederick. And he's so. Kept hitting golf balls and they belted her across the knuckles and all. She broke her fingers and just had this swollen hand. You used to do mad stuff like that when you were younger.

[A]

I remember my cousins were fishing and my boy cousin cast the rod back.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, where did it go?

[A]

Into the neck. Girl. Cousin Maura, if you're listening. Hello. Yeah. And then he reefed it forward. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then it like pulls out the skin off. Oh, yeah. I know, I know.

[B]

Hi, Joanne and Vogue. Help. I'm coming to you both in a state of mild but constant panic and would love some extremely unqualified advice. Perfect. I. I moved to Dubai in 2024. Jesus Christ. Does anyone. Does Anyone live here anymore? Is everyone just living in Dubai? I'm a massive home bird. Do you ever see all those memes about moving to Dubai? They're so funny.

[A]

Like the worst. The worst insults you can give someone is. You look like you'd enjoy Dubai. You know they're not our love living in Dubai.

[B]

You've read them on the Internet and they're funny. We don't think that about you. I'm a massive home bird and bird and underestimated just how emotionally attached I am to my family. I've really struggled at the start. Some of my friends moved out after me, which helped. But this year Dubai feels different. My friends now have boyfriends, so suddenly I'm feeling like a bit of a lonely loser. I miss my family constantly. I went home for Christmas and had the best time ever. Like, genuinely considered not getting back on the plane. My sister is my best friend, so that makes everything 10 times harder. I love my family to bits and I worry about them all the time. There's just this low level anxiety humming away in my body about not being home. I'm currently on a career break from my job in Ireland. It might be there when I go back, but it also might not be extended. And even if it is, is that actually the job I want to be in forever or am I just clinging to it because it's familiar? My job in Dubai has offered to extend my contract for another year and I don't know what to do. Dubai has so many positives. I live in a really nice apartment that I absolutely could not afford in Ireland. It's the center of travel. I can be in a different country every few months. I'm in my mid-20s and this feels like the time I should be doing this and I feel like I should want to stay. And I might look back and say I wish I did one more year. But surprisingly, I actually get paid more to work in Ireland. So financially it makes zero sense. Emotionally, I just think I want to be at home eating dinner with my family. I miss home so much. I know Christmas is elite time to be at home anyway, but even outside of that, home just feels like me. On the other hand, I'm terrified that if I go home now, I'll regret not giving Dubai one more proper year to travel. Because I know that when I move back to Ireland this year or next year, I will settle there for good and I won't ever make that move again. What would you do if you were me from an anxious in Dubai? P.S. vogue. I also miss how accessible Bear by Vogue is at home. Well, then you should move home. That's it. You should move on. Because you just. You can't be using the stuff they have out there. I'm just saying.

[A]

Caric.

[B]

Allegedly.

[A]

Possibly allegedly. Well, I think this. This feels very clear to me. This feels like she wants to move home.

[B]

You want to. You want to move home and you're just feeling guilty that you might leave Dubai, but you've done Dubai. And, like, I would. I've been to Dubai many times. I really like Dubai. I think that you can do Dubai in a year and you can live there and be happy there for a year, but you don't have to force yourself to stay for another year. And yes, it's easier to travel to certain places from Dubai, but I think Dublin's really easy. Like, there's like. Sure. Airline just goes everywhere, doesn't it? Goes straight to la, John. You can fly loads of places in. In Ireland and you can still travel.

[A]

Dubai's not going anywhere. Dubai's locked in, as they say.

[B]

I don't know how much fun you're having in Dubai either.

[A]

You see, the people do make. We tend to make these grand statements of like, I know I'll settle here and I'll settle there. You actually don't know that. You don't. And so if there's no real financial benefit, like, most people stay in Dubai because it's financially beneficial. Because obviously, obviously, there's no tax, which is astounding and a very seductive reason to live there. But if that's not a reason to do it and you're struggling and you feel lonely and you miss your family, go home.

[B]

I don't think I could live away from my family. Not that far away. Like, we live away, but, like, we go home. You go home to Pat all the time. I go home to my. Yeah, parents and sister and stuff.

[A]

You don't have to settle in Ireland either. She's no kids, by the sounds of us.

[B]

Early 20s, mid-20s, I think.

[A]

Jesus. I'm sure. I'm thinking. I'm half thinking of moving to America next year. So it's all to play for. You can go anywhere you want at any time of the day or night.

[B]

Don't worry, Joe. Don't worry. I want you know that that's something that you need to run by. I want you.

[A]

Don't just do that.

[B]

I want to. I want it like that. Remember, she wanted to move east.

[A]

No kids.

[B]

Stop that.

[A]

You know, Stop it. What I mean is, for this young woman you always feel like you're way older than you are. You always feel like you've less time than you have, although, until you hit. Well, sorry, Vogue, I hate to bring it up again, our age and then time starts flying in, but in your early 20s and 30s, this is the time to explore. But don't put yourself through any hardship that you don't need to.

[B]

Don't force. Yeah, don't force yourself. Go home. Home is great. I love being home in Ireland and, like, that's obviously what you're kind of yearning for, so don't.

[A]

I do think as well, Dubai is such a cult. There's such a cultural difference there as well, you know, like, you're really far from home. It's not like. I mean, London to Dublin, it's. It's kind of no biggie, really, you know, because it's only across the way. But Dubai is. It's a real culture shift and. And you're far away and there's a significant time difference and. Yeah, go home. You're. There's no failure in going home. Like I say, Dubai's not going anywhere. You can go back. Yeah, you can move to Greenland, get 100 grand off Trump if you want.

[B]

Yeah, move to Greenland.

[A]

That's all to play for. Come to New York with me.

[B]

You're not gonna. Off.

[A]

I need to get into the clubs over there.

[B]

Off. Honestly, fed up with this. First of all, she hits me. Is this because I'm moving to your area? Is this what's happening here? Because every time I remind you that I'm moving to your area, it's over. You have 18 months.

[A]

I have a bad case of ants in the pants and I'm always like, if it's easy, it's not working. I need to be challenged. Not that it's easy, you know, I mean. I mean, geographically, I'm like, I should start all over again somewhere. That's my mantra. That's kind of. I know, but listen, you know yourself, it won't happen. I'm just saying to this woman, I'm 42 and I'm trying to move in country again.

[B]

I might move to America.

[A]

You should.

[B]

Why don't we do that? I would move to. I'd move to New York. Why not? I'd love to live in New York.

[A]

Give the kids a little New York twang instead of whatever is going on.

[B]

Bloody love. Yeah. Jesus.

[A]

Buried aristocratic accent. They're developing.

[B]

They're knocked that out of them. Spencer. I don't know what's happened. Honestly, Gigi. In particular, One more smaller email. Ready?

[A]

Yeah, always.

[B]

I will too.

[A]

Right, Born ready. Ray.

[B]

Hi, Joanne. Vogue and Joe, AKA my unpaid therapist at this point. Thank you. Please keep me anonymous. Just listening to this week's pod where the woman has had her first lesbian encounter and I'm sat here in tears listening to your words of advice. I'm currently struggling with my sexuality. After years of thinking I was straight, I realized that I am in fact as gay as Christmas. I've met the most amazing woman and we're very much in love.

[A]

There's a revolution, the revolution happening just.

[B]

Waiting for you to come out. Joanne, I've never felt like this with anyone and I'll be really disappointed if you say you never fancied me because that happened to me with a lesbian friend mine. I was really upset.

[A]

That's your lesbian friend.

[B]

Never once. Never once. And we've known each other for 10 years previous.

[A]

This is the thing the poor. I feel sorry for lesbians who have female friends because they're like, I don't get f. Get over yourself. I do not fancy you. And we're all like, why not me? Yeah, cuz you're in bits.

[B]

You see this picture of me though? Do you see this picture of me?

[A]

They're like, no thanks.

[B]

It's taken me a long time to come to this conclusion. I have a lot at stake if I come out. But just wanted to thank you for being so open and honest and validating people who are feeling a bit confused at the moment with love, tears and snot. Anonymous. We will leave it.

[A]

Very cute.

[B]

Very nice. That's so nice that you've. That's like. It's like. I know it's nothing to do with like, it's. It's the complete opposite of being like, oh, when you realize you have a problem, like that's the first step. But like you don't have a problem. You know what I mean? The first step is realizing you're gay.

[A]

And Pastor Williams setting up her conversion therapy skill.

[B]

And now you'll be on the. Like, you'll feel. You'll get more confident and you'll feel like more comfortable. Tell like you've told us now there's another step. So the next step is telling your mates and then like tell your family and you'll realize that actually it's not that. Well, it is a big deal in friends like that, but I think that you'll just realize that it's better that everyone knows and you'll feel so good about yourself and I am thrilled for you. And I wonder, well, do you fancy me?

[A]

Would you wonder how many people are living a lie? Do you know what I mean? If. If this is the. If this is the. The kind of time for people to feel comfortable coming out or explore their sexuality, whatever, and a lot of them are exploring it and staying over the other side or the same side, I guess. How many people are denying a huge part of themselves because it just wasn't acceptable? Like, I'd say. I'd say half the husbands in Ireland are gay.

[B]

Half.

[A]

Yeah, I'd say so.

[B]

Jesus Christ. I better cut it off. Thanks, everyone, for listening.

[A]

Look at the priests.

[B]

Well, that's.

[A]

I said, thank you for asking me on Grindr when they're training. And all this is. Yeah, yeah, keep that in there, Joe.

[B]

Don't you.

[A]

Don't you be silencing me. You know what you're like. You know, I don't listen to podcasts right now. Half of what I say gets removed.

[B]

Joanne. Joanne just lurks around the gym looking over men's shoulders to see that they're on Grinder.

[A]

I said to a woman at a show recently, I said, no. So I said to a man, I said, are you gay? And the woman went, he's my husband. And I said, that means nothing.

[B]

Are you gay?

[A]

Are you gay? Yeah. This has been a global player, original production.