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Joanne McNally
This is a Global Player original podcast.
Vogue
Welcome to my therapist ghosted me with myself, Javan McNally and my confidant, co presenter and sexy work wife, Vulcan. I have a Culture Corner recommendation that is so gruesome. I actually don't think I can start with it, but I'm dying to tell you about it.
Joe
Oh, is that a little cheese? Are we doing like they do on the radio? Is this a little.
Vogue
Sure.
Joe
For the end.
Vogue
Yeah, let's tease.
Joe
Stay tuned because.
Joanne McNally
Yeah, well, I actually, I actually.
Vogue
Putting out a little cultural suspender there. A little suggestion of something.
Joanne McNally
Well, now I don't on the edge of the. Of the edge of their seats completely. But I too have a little cultural corner for you coming up.
Joe
Do stick around until the end.
Vogue
Well, I guarantee I. Wait till you hear mine, Joanne.
Joanne McNally
Wait until you hear mine.
Vogue
All right, come on. No, no, no, I forgot about that. I have no sense of just delayed gratification. Sorry.
Joanne McNally
I have some shameful, shameful news. So.
Vogue
I know my favorite kind of news.
Joanne McNally
Well, I have been applying quite a lot of late back and forth to Ireland and I've been hopping on the Ryanair train. A train because, you know, I'd usually hit up early English, but I've been going from Gatwick and stuff like that and the timings have been better. There's a couple of things that I have an issue with Ryanair. First of all, it doesn't take an hour and a half to get to London. I think I said this last week. That's how much time they give you. Just so they're on time.
Vogue
Time. And secondly, Vogue, I have to interrupt you there. That's depending on the wind.
Joanne McNally
No, no, no. It's either 50 minutes or it's an hour.
Vogue
If the wind is behind you, pushing you along, it's quicker.
Joanne McNally
If the wind's behind you, it's 50 minutes. And if the wind. If you've got a headwind, it's one hour. Okay, I know, I know. Okay, I'm telling you so. Okay, but they've got, they, they put an hour and a half. No, it's because I fly all the time. It's because they put. Not that you don't, but like you space jinning. I'm not.
Vogue
I have no concept of time. I once woke up, I thought we were taking off.
Joanne McNally
Wicked.
Vogue
Do you remember? I remember I woke up once, I thought we were taken off and we were landing. Do you remember that?
Joanne McNally
Oh my God, that's so lucky. Yeah.
Vogue
And I was in the middle seat. How I managed to do it, I do not know. And I wasn't even drinking. I was just absolutely wrecked.
Joanne McNally
That's so. That's like time travel.
Vogue
I was like. I'd say the jaw was hanging off me and the eyes ran in the back of my head.
Joanne McNally
You didn't even do it. You didn't do one of them.
Vogue
Nothing. I was, I was. I'd been gigging the night before. I'd done it to three shows. I was absolutely wrecked. And I woke up and I was like, here we go. I was. I was out, I was up. Wait. I had the eye out for the drinks trolley and next thing people were unbuckling themselves. It's like, what happened?
Joanne McNally
They must have been raging though. They see you getting the flight and they're like, we'll make a fortune off this. Yeah.
Vogue
She'S so locked. She's the one. She bought scratch cards. No, she's gonna watch this town.
Joanne McNally
No matter what I do. If I sleep, if I sleep sitting off on flights, like I'll always wake up. I think it's because of the weight of my jaw. Because my mouth is so big when it drops open, I'm like. It pulls my whole head down.
Vogue
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like that 10kg has to go under your seat, love. You're like, well fit.
Joanne McNally
It won't fit.
Vogue
Like it's attached to my jaw. There's nothing I can do about it. See Ryanair trying to get you to fit it into one of their little bath fitters.
Joanne McNally
Good luck, my friend. It's not gone near that.
Vogue
So for sorry, go on.
Joanne McNally
Anyway, here's my shameful. My shameful story. So basically like I always fly and I like to sit on a window seat because for. For sleepage. So if I'm not playing with the kids, I'll always be in a window seat. Now I've upped my game and I realized this from the last time I flew home, I flew over Howth. If you sit in the left hand side of the plane, you can see ABCs you fly over Hope. But I was in the other side of the plane and I wasn't flying. Overhaul another time. So I did both last week and I was, huh. I feel a bit more sad today. And I was more sad because I hadn't flown over Hoath. So I had to mail my manager and tell her that I knew I was being diva but I would like to be in the ABCs.
Vogue
Well, you mean the A's?
Joanne McNally
No, because it goes A. I don't care if I'm 1 to 20. A, B or C. Fine, whatever.
Vogue
You take the size. See how.
Joanne McNally
No, I take the window seat. But you have to be on the left hand side of the plane, which. The seats are all one ABC2 ABAC. Yeah, but you'd have to be a.
Joe
Need A. You have to.
Vogue
You couldn't be seen.
Joanne McNally
Oh, well, yeah, that's what I mean. Just basically I want to be on that side on a window seat.
Vogue
So it's A. Just so. Just so we're clear about the Alphabet here.
Joe
You mean they don't work?
Joanne McNally
Because if Louis, if 2A as well. If I.
Vogue
If I have poor Louise. If she books you and I'm just worried she'll book you a C and you'll blow the plane up. I'm just worried you'll kick off.
Joanne McNally
I'd be extremely confused if I was sat in an aisle seat. I would be extremely confused. There's nowhere upon landing.
Vogue
There's nowhere to fly a plane into in Ireland, really, is there?
Joanne McNally
Croak Pat the SIP2 building. The SIP2 building is still pretty big.
Vogue
Molly Malone's chest.
Joanne McNally
Very buoyant. It would just pop back out.
Vogue
You've made your needs clear. Hopefully they're respected.
Joanne McNally
There's not much else. I asked for just coffee and that. That's all I want. And I'm a happy person.
Vogue
Speaking of aviation disasters, folk.
Joanne McNally
Yeah, yeah.
Vogue
Well, it was around having to look at the other side of Dublin.
Joanne McNally
I'm not happy. I wasn't a happy girl.
Vogue
Did you see the hilarious forward slash gas story of the two Americans who went viral during the week, who were backpacking around Europe as Americans like to do, and they were going and they wanted to go and visit Nice and France and they turned up the airport and they missed their flight. So they went up to an Italian. I think this is the information Italian ticket desk and said, we'd like to go to Nice. And the woman went, no problemo, and booked them two tickets to Nice. They only. They realized that on the back of the airplane seat, you know, they have like the destination. It has Tunis. Like T, U, N I S off they go to Africa.
Joe
Tunisia.
Vogue
Tunisia.
Joanne McNally
Yeah. Quite different, culturally different places.
Vogue
But actually, because I was like, oh my God, you know the way. You wouldn't know what the. Because I didn't. I'm so thick. I didn't cop. Tunis is Tunisia. Because I was like, yeah, yeah. I thought they were going to be dinette and cheese boards. Where do they end up? But Tunisia's actually got a great reputation.
Joanne McNally
It's a Good holiday destination. But like, I mean, it's not great if you're looking for nice noise. Has a very different vibe.
Vogue
It's a very different vibe. Very different vibe. But anyway, off they went. They landed anyway. They were like, oh, we're in Africa. And they went up to a desk and then there was a bit of a language barrier. And even though people were going mad online, be like, it's Americans and all, but it actually wasn't their fault. In fairness, I know Americans can be a little loose with the jog fee, particularly when they refer to Europe like it's just one housing estate instead of like a billion different countries. They're just like, we're going to European. But in fairness to these girls, in their defense, the woman at the ticket desk. Yeah, it obviously had. I don't know. I don't know what she was up to or was she taking the piss out of them or she genuinely misunderstood, but she sent them to Africa. My. The thing that I thought. You know what I thought I was like, they're obviously loaded. If they went. If she was like, they probably maybe don't understand your hour or something.
Joanne McNally
Maybe it's to do. I. I don't know. Maybe you get. I don't know, maybe we. I think we get ripped off for flights, but I think we get ripped off for flights in the uk Even in comparison, buying somewhere, a flight in. In Dublin. So maybe it was much cheaper for them and it's kind of similar to interrailing buying.
Vogue
Maybe, maybe, maybe. To be honest, the Tunis and Tunis thing, I was like, how has that not happened more? Do you know that there's. And especially when people have drinks in the airport. Like, you know, I'm surprised there's a Dublin in Australia and I'm honestly surprised I haven't ended up there at some point in, In Australia in particular, because obviously so many Irishmen are over there. There's roads and towns called Kilkenny and Carlo and Armagh and. And all sort of kells and all sorts of places. And all it would take is a couple of wine, couple of. Couple of breakfast wines and. And a bit of a language barrier with the, with the ticket person.
Joanne McNally
You're screwed. Do you know, in Austria they actually have a specific desk for people who thought they were going to Australia and have landed in Austria. Like, it. It happens. It's actually not even about. Remember that time I got in the plane that was not bound from Malaga and I was standing on the aircraft?
Vogue
No.
Joanne McNally
And I was just. I must. I told you that story. I Did. I did tell you that story. Now, I was flying from Aberdeen.
Joe
Had you been drinking?
Joanne McNally
Oh, yeah. I hadn't been to bed yet and I was. But I was. Yeah, I was at Aberdeen Airport and I actually boarded a flight that was not going to Malaga. And they were like. As I got in the plane and I gave my ticket, they were like, where are you going? I was like, malaga. And they were like, this plane is not going to Malaga. Who let you on this plane?
Vogue
Well, that's. That's the question. Because, you know, who let you. That's a huge security breach. I have to. I have to. I have to fact check you. Vogue. You're not going to like this, but I have to fact check it. That Austria, Australia thing is. It's an urban myth. It was a marketing campaign from. It's not actually.
Joanne McNally
Is this.
Vogue
Yeah, sadly, it was just.
Joanne McNally
It was like.
Vogue
Do you know one of those marketing campaigns that just goes viral? Do you remember? It was like the. This. The ad for. Remember the story that went around about the Korean man who divorced his wife because when he married her, she was really hot and when they. Kids. The kids.
Joanne McNally
And they had. Is that not true either?
Vogue
It was a PR stunt for a facial clinic, like for. For facelifts.
Joanne McNally
What?
Vogue
Yeah. So the Australian marketing thing, I think, was an ad for. I think was a marketing campaign for Austria. Back in the day, they kind of grew legs.
Joanne McNally
That's ruined for me.
Vogue
I know. Sorry. I'm sorry.
Joanne McNally
But they do. But they do do that. I was on a plane again last week and I did find it funny that the person was like, we're going to. This plane's going to Lo. Gatwick. And I'm looking at him like, why does he keep repeating the fact that we're going to London Gatwick? But obviously it must happen quite often where people just kind of break through. Supposedly a lot of people mix up Budapest and Bucharest as well, which I think is. Oh, yeah, I. I actually think that's fair enough. I do think that that's fair enough.
Vogue
Folk, you might know the story. Joe doesn't know it. It was a famous story. RTE did a radio documentary about it. It's called Don't Go. Don't Go Far. So it was two Young Dublin Lads, 1985. One's called Keith, one's called now they're best Mates. They're hanging around outside the front of the house. Their mother is like, well, one of their. Their friends are not brothers. One of the. One of their mothers is like, I'm putting Your dinner on don't go far. Right. Yeah, they had. They were a bit of. They bunked off. You know what bunked off means, don't you, Joe? They went on the hop a bit, which is.
Joe
I'd use the same term.
Vogue
Yeah.
Joe
We're culturally not that different.
Vogue
We're not at all jonged.
Joanne McNally
Do you ever say Mitch? Remember some people you say Mitching off skill. Well, that was my mom's generation, I suppose.
Joe
I don't know that one.
Vogue
We'd say the hop. We were like, we're going to the hop.
Joe
If I wasn't bunk enough, I'd be skiving sky even.
Joanne McNally
Yeah.
Vogue
I was in Bristol at the weekend job.
Joe
Yeah. Well, they definitely skyved down there. That's what.
Vogue
That's where you're from, isn't it?
Joe
Yeah, a little bit further, but yeah.
Joanne McNally
You'Re in the room somewhere. Sat. Now, Somerset.
Vogue
That's enough information, Joe. Let's keep it loose. Let's not make this personal. It's a business relationship. Don't be giving us your life story. Anyway, so the two young lads they had, if they were. They were. They were hoppers, they were bunkers, they were skyvers. So they decided to walk off to the dart station and they bunked on a dart and got out to Deliry. Now, bearing in mind, I think they were 10. They were 10 years of age. They got out to delivery. God, there's nothing around. They're bored. They're like, this is crack. They hop on. They hop a bunk on to the ferry to Hollyhead.
Joanne McNally
Oh, my God.
Vogue
Yeah. So they get on the ferry to Hollyhead, the la. And they'd done it before, but the last time they had been stung when they landed, and they've been sent back, right? This time they landed, they were not stung. They ended up bunking onto a train to London.
Joe
Oh, my God.
Vogue
The mothers are at home going, where the are the lads? They got talking to a fellow train passenger who kind of was like, oh, these guys, what are they up to? No, it was the. It was 85, you know, different time.
Joanne McNally
Yeah.
Vogue
This lad kind of admired their skill set and was like, you can stay in mine tonight if you want. Because obviously they were like, look, we've got plans for ourselves, you know, we're gonna see how far we can take this. So they stayed in this random person's house for the night, got up the next day, bunked on a tube to Heathrow. Now there's not a penny in their pockets. This is the Irish charm for you, Joe. This is where the cultural differences do.
Joe
Yeah.
Joanne McNally
Charm, though.
Joe
I never did this.
Vogue
So off they go to Heathrow. No one's threatened to them, no one checked their tickets. They walk through all the checkpoints telling everyone, anyone that asks them, they're like, oh, my mouth's behind me. They're like, okay.
Joanne McNally
Oh, my God.
Vogue
Straight through Heathrow International Airport. Sorry. They did. They had money that they nicked from one of those fountain. The charity fountains.
Joanne McNally
You know the thing where you used to put it and it used to go round and round and round you put it. And they'd go around that ball.
Vogue
No, I think it's an actual fountain, like the. Where people throw money into the water. I think they just scooped a couple of quid out for themselves. Oh, my God.
Joanne McNally
Okay, go on.
Vogue
So anyway, and then they. They. They were walking kind of alongside with this passenger, like, where are you going? He's like, I'm getting on this plane to New York. And so the two lads were like, okay. So they walked onto the plane.
Joanne McNally
No.
Vogue
Yeah. They sat in two people's seats. The people came up and they're like, you in our seats? They're like, no worries. They just walked down to the back of the plane and stood there. So they weren't even sitting down. Taking off.
Joanne McNally
Stop.
Vogue
They took off on an Air India Boeing 747. An Air India Boeing 747 had blown up off the Irish coast two months before, killing everyone on board. So they'd assumed that security was going to be tighter on these planes. Doors closed, plane takes off. A couple of. A couple of minutes later, they're off to jfk. They land in jfk, they get off the plane. Still no one notices. And the only person that stopped them was they went up to a policeman forward slash cop and said, which is the most Irish thing ever. How do we get into town? And he said, where have you come from? And then they're like, all right, the jig is up. We've come from Dublin. We've come from. Yeah, the time.
Joanne McNally
Oh, my God, such a fun. The furthest I ever got. Do you ever remember when you're younger and you'd be like, I'm running away. And you'd pack a bag full of complete shite. Like, you could have a mug and everything. And you'd go off and you'd go down the road. I'd sit at the bus stop. That's as far as I'd ever guess.
Vogue
That is so weird, New York. That is so weird that you say that, because I. So I remember the first time I ran away and it was around the time where those see through bags were really in fashion, those plastic see through bags. And I got up as far as. My mother used to call it the Ginnel. It was an alleyway up the top of the estate at the top of the cul de sac and. And like that, it was just full of plates. Why did I bring plates?
Joanne McNally
I used to bring really random stuff that you wouldn't need. Like absolutely nothing. No toothbrush, no knickers for the next day or anything like that. Just random crap, I guess.
Vogue
We were setting up a shop. We were like, we're setting up a home in the alleyway. So I'm gonna keep my mother's delf. I took my favorite. Like I always was. Like, where was I going with the del. I had no money. You know.
Joanne McNally
Those kids getting to New York, that is absolutely wild.
Vogue
Maybe we only thought Pat and Sandra would notice or something they really cared about when missing like their plates and cups and forks.
Joanne McNally
Yeah, when we were gone, it was like. It was probably quite the relief actually.
Vogue
Yeah.
Joanne McNally
The only time I kind of, I. I kind of ran away, I suppose. But I was like 16. But I basically, I told my mom that I was going over to say, my d. Dad's house. I told my dad I was going away with my friends.
Vogue
Family.
Joanne McNally
And then my friend told her parents that she was going away with my family. For some reason no one rang each other. And off we went to bed and Medina together for. For a full week. That's fun. Package holiday. No money by the last day, so we had to just share a packet of salt and vinegar crisps. Anna, instead of getting water, two liters of Coke.
Vogue
Yeah, that's the joy of having parents who can't stand each other. Sorry, Sandra, I hope that's not. Yeah, we're not crossing the line there.
Joanne McNally
Don't even know if she fully know. Knows that that whole thing happened. I don't actually think I've ever told her she was. I'm sure she'll know now if she's listening. But like we had a great holiday. Away we went. We used to get the bus up to Marbella because we couldn't afford to get a taxi. Like we'd very. We. I think we'd about €300 each for the week and well, we made it last.
Vogue
I. I watched, I was watching. I was scrolling through the talk the other night and I saw there was a video of a woman who. The first vid. The first image on the video was of A child. Like, if I, I. She could have been. She's smaller than Gigi, so whatever age that is, I don't know. Walking up the street, like this house in the State street, and the mother's film her, and she's like, I gotta kill her. And then it cuts to the fact that she put her to bed during the day in this inner. I think her out, like the mother's bed, and the daughter was supposed to be napping, and she got out of bed, opened, unlocked the patio door and just left. What? Yeah.
Joanne McNally
Did she get her back?
Vogue
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the first image was of the girl coming back down the road, but the mother didn't even know she was gone. She was looking out the window and she saw her coming back and she dragged her in by the ear. And then everyone was saying she's. She was abusing the kid and all. And she was like, I'm trying to teach her a lesson that you can't just bail like you're four. Do you know what I mean?
Joanne McNally
God.
Vogue
The last thing you want is a child with an adventurous spirit. I want a child like me who's just gonna rot in its bed all day.
Joanne McNally
I'd be doing that too. But it's, it's. It's funny because T. T is when he goes over to my brother's house, like, he's allowed. He's allowed out onto the estate, and they kind of play, and he is like, that is the joy to him. And he comes back and he tells me. He's like. I was like, oh, we were on our own, Mommy. We were. And he's like, my brother said that they keep going up to people in theater. Was like, hello, nice to meet you. And puts his hand out to take their hand.
Vogue
What?
Joanne McNally
Hello.
Vogue
Sorry.
Joanne McNally
I'm like, oh, God.
Vogue
Oh, my God, how embarrassing.
Joanne McNally
They do it. I know, because they do it in school. And I'm like, oh, my God, the Irish must be like, what the hell?
Vogue
You need to teach them how to glass people.
Joanne McNally
I'd say just give. Box them. Box them.
Vogue
Just chest, chest, pump them. Peter.
Joe
Those lads were Keith Byrne and Noel Murray. We should get them on.
Vogue
It's a great story. It's. It's so at the doc. And the radio documentary is really, really well made. It's really, really good. It makes me miss the 80s, even though I don't remember the 80s. But I just. That kind of laissez faire attitude of, like, just kids running around un. Unbelted on an airplane. I just, it's like While everyone's just chain smoking, doing shots through their eyes. The glory days.
Joe
We should ask people for any emails, if any. If anybody's got any stories of. Of running away.
Joanne McNally
Running away, send them in.
Joe
Hello, at mtgmpod.
Vogue
Yeah, great idea. Yeah. And. And explain to us, was anyone else taking Delf with them? I don't know what. I've never heard that was a Strat. I'm. I feel kind of seen that Vogue was doing it as well.
Joanne McNally
Yeah, I used to take my omc. How bizarre. Just. Just the cassette. No cassette player, anything. But it was my favorite song, so I take that with me.
Vogue
Do you remember those Fisher Price cassette kind of box speaker player things? And you. And I had a mic on it. Had a mic on a curly string attached to it. And you could go around, you'd press, like, record on the cassette thing. And then you'd be like, 1, 2, 1, 2. And you'd like, I sing and interview people and stuff. I bet you Pat. So she hasn't announced the sentimentality. I guarantee she never kept any of those tapes. Probably comedy gold and those things.
Joanne McNally
So she couldn't wait to get rid of that show. Do you know what you were saying there about, like, being a child in the 80s? Like. Like, Amber asked me a question. What did. What did you used to do when you're bored as a child? And I actually thought of it and I was like, we were never bored because we'd go outside, we'd all be playing manhunt or we can tip the can. Curbs. No one plays curbs anymore. Do you remember how good that game was? Curbs.
Vogue
Was that with the golf ball or something?
Joanne McNally
No. Each person stood in a curb. You had a ball. So you're across the road and you threw the ball and you had to see who hit the curb first. And then you're allowed to move closer and closer and closer. And then there's a winner. I was playing England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales. Inside, outside, inside Scales with the kids the other day out of elastic bands. Do you remember that?
Vogue
Oh, my God. I've. That is the most triggering thing I've ever heard. How do you remember that?
Joanne McNally
Because I bought elastic bands for something and I was like, I can't waste these. And I was like, oh, my God, England are in Scotland way.
Vogue
This is the problem.
Joanne McNally
They love, loved it.
Vogue
We should be passing this stuff down like the. Like the Celts did. Do you know what I mean? We're supposed to be passing stuff down. Yeah, she passing tradition down to your younger kids. Not just Handing them Peppa Pig on an iPad. Insane that. If I had a kid, I'd say, I'll have to. I'll get two tiny iPads and attach one to each eye and take them off 17. So, like, don't get me wrong, I got, I get the power of the iPad. It's like Valium for kids.
Joanne McNally
Yeah. It's just, it's like, it's like, do you know what it brings? Free time for parents. But another great game.
Vogue
Wales. Inside, outside, off the rails.
Joanne McNally
And you ever. You put it up to your knees and you put it up on your thighs and you put it up to your waist and you see who can get the highest. I was playing Hangman.
Vogue
Are we being abused?
Joanne McNally
The kids? No, we were not.
Vogue
What was going up and down our legs?
Joanne McNally
The elastic bands.
Vogue
Thank God.
Joanne McNally
Okay.
Vogue
I just wanted clarity on that. I just. The 80s were a loose time. I just wasn't sure I'd.
Joanne McNally
I was. Another game that I was playing with the kids was Hangman. Because I was trying to think of, like, ways that I could, like, do a bit of learning as well. And anyway, Gina was there when I was doing it and I'd spelled out something like, birthday.
Vogue
Birthday.
Joanne McNally
T. Birthday. No, I spelled it normal, but, like, T had got loads. There must have been, like at least five letters there. And Gina, for the life of her couldn't. I'm like, gina, how can you not see that? Birthday. I think T got it in the end and she's like, oh, T. Sorry, I can't tell you there.
Vogue
I'm like, because Gina's ageless.
Joanne McNally
She's cl.
Vogue
She's too classic for birthdays. Joe has just sent me a photo of that Fisher Price cassette thing I was talking about and say, I am thrown, Joe. I am thrown. And I would press. Yeah, you just record yourself chatting into the paper.
Joanne McNally
Do you know what else I miss? I miss pranks. Do you remember, like, I used to do pranks?
Vogue
I never liked pranks.
Joanne McNally
All the time. I remember once ring my dad in April Fool's Day and telling him his house had been robbed and I was sitting upstairs in the window and I was crying on the phone and everything to him, like, dad, it's, everything's gone back and came in the driveway and I just died laughing.
Vogue
You're like your man from Jackass, what's his name?
Joanne McNally
I love pranks.
Vogue
I, I, I can't stand pranks. I couldn't, like, even, you know, those prank shows that they have, or even the Jeremy Beetle still. I can't stand It. I couldn't watch it any hidden camera TV shows. I remember ball and crying on my dad's lap on. On April 5th. I thought my granddad was going to die. And he's like, it's not like that. It's like, you know. You know, because he was trying to explain April Phil's to me and then I was upset.
Joanne McNally
Why'd you think your granddad was gonna die?
Vogue
I don't know, but it's one of those really clear memories where I remember him trying to console me because I was like hysterical crying that granddad was gonna. I mean, he did obviously, since. Yes, you're. That dad's like, they're not gonna die. It's like the two of them died.
Joanne McNally
You have to. You have to realize that someone's gonna die when you're younger.
Vogue
Stop. I know.
Joanne McNally
I can't. I can't lie to t. Like, he knows it's gonna happen. Like sometimes he'll be crying over me dying and I'm like, I can't. I'm like, I'm. I did say once. I was like, I'm not gonna tell you guys. Yes, you are. And I was like, well, yeah, I am.
Vogue
Speaking of deaths, can I please.
Joanne McNally
Now my favorite topic.
Vogue
I put up this post on my insta and I was like, look, throw all your recommendations in under here and I'll pin it. We can just come back and use it. And it's been. I've been. It's really useful. But one of the recommendations on it was a podcast called Noble and she was like, I don't. The woman who kind of. Kind of threw it in the mix. She was like, I don't know how it hasn't gone viral. It's brilliant. So I was like, oh, okay, gives a bit of that started. I like it is not for the faint hearted and I would not recommend listening to it if you've just lost somebody. Like not like as in a car park. I mean, lost somebody via death. It's a true crime podcast hosted by Sean Raviv that investigates a 2002 case in Noble, Georgia where 300 bodies were found on a property belonging to a well known family. The podcast.
Joanne McNally
I remember that.
Vogue
Do you? I've never heard about it.
Joanne McNally
I remember. Oh, I heard about the news story. Yeah. I never knew what happened. Oh my God, I'm deaf in it. What? Oh, you can't tell me. Spoiler. Damn it.
Vogue
It's gruesome af. So it's like the podcast dials into the history of the property, the fate of the body is sent to the tri state crematorium and the man at the center of the case while exploring the fundamental question of what the living owe the debt. So basically this family who were in charge of the local crematorium, I guess a business basically weren't burning any of the bodies.
Joanne McNally
Oh my God.
Vogue
Their machine broke or some shit. I don't know. I'm. I'm on. I'm just about to start episode five.
Joanne McNally
That's what happened.
Vogue
And so I'm just warning you now I'm about to tell you is quite gruesome. If you're, if you're squeamish, I would skip. That's what I would say. Trigger. It's a trigger warning here, I think because even I, who I'm a quite a morbid Mary and, and I kind of am morbidly fascinated by this stuff. Even I was like, gee, so they.
Joanne McNally
Must have just been giving the families.
Vogue
Just pretend ashes a hundred percent. There was like the whole thing obviously blew up, but there was people whose bought. Whose family members were then identified as still being in the crematorium who had six years ago spread their husband's ashes over his favorite fishing point. And they're like, so who the was that?
Joanne McNally
Oh my God. But did you not hear that there was somewhere in the UK that that a funeral home was doing something like that as well? And they got in massive trouble because there was just like loads of bodies left in freezers and stuff that they just hadn't bothered doing anything with because yeah, they were basically saving cost. That's dark. That's like, it's so dark.
Vogue
And basically now it's like, what is the crime? As such, because they didn't kill them. It's just like kind of professional misconduct.
Joanne McNally
It can't really be just professional misconduct. No, because there's something about tampering with a dead body or something like that.
Vogue
Well, they have. The problem was they didn't tamper with the dead bodies. It's like the opposite.
Joanne McNally
Well, they kind of did by just chucking it in a mass grave. You can't just bury people in mass graves. That's like against.
Vogue
No, they weren't. They weren't buried at. So they were basically just caskets and caskets and caskets on top of each other. Some people still had their like hospital bracelets on them and stuff. Yeah. So. So the, the when you get over, kind of.
Joanne McNally
So they just left them out in the open? They just ditched them in a field in the open?
Vogue
No, sorry, it wasn't a field. So basically my understanding is from listening to the podcast, that this local crematorium, the family who kind of were the cremators of this town and Noble owned like, they were kind of owned this kind of sprawling warehouse area. And then they would bring these bodies. It was a business ultimately. And they would cremate them in the local crematorium and they give people the ashes. And there was someone delivering gas because they need gas for the machines. And when the person delivered the gas, they spotted like a leg bone where they, they pulled up to the wrong place and. Yeah. And they're like, what?
Joe
Must have been an odor there. Surely there was.
Vogue
No. Well, they said when they went in, then, when the police went in, then, then it all kicked off. They were like. And. Yeah, so. So the episode I'm on at the moment is them trying to. I know, yeah, but. But weirdly. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. But. But they're trying to decide what the crime is as such, because it's never. They're like, they're like, we've never seen this before, so we don't know what to do. And then it's just on the episode where the, the local, the, the solicitor, one of the solicitors in the town has decided to take the case for the family who owned the crematorium. And. Yeah, and it's all kicking off, but when I, it, like I say, if you've recently lost somebody, I wouldn't listen to it.
Joanne McNally
Well, mine's a lot lighter than that. I was watching the new. I was watching the new Charge. Charlie Sheen documentary.
Vogue
Oh, yeah?
Joanne McNally
Have you watched it?
Vogue
No, I haven't watched it yet.
Joanne McNally
Oh, I'm on. I'm nearly finished the second half, I think it's only. It is only two episodes. I actually like. He would have been an absolute nightmare to have been married to. He had seriously bad, bad, bad addiction problems. But I actually, he's very. I, I like him. Like, he's not hiding anything. He's allowing everybody to be interviewed.
Vogue
He.
Joanne McNally
Even if they're going to say bad things about him, he's just. He's actually reading an open book. Yeah.
Vogue
I guess at this stage. What else does he have? I just saw some headline where Denise Richards was making his. His. I say, his hooker sandwiches.
Joanne McNally
I.
Vogue
Probably not the most diplomatic thing to say, but I think that's what she was calling them, wasn't it? She went over and he'd allowed a sex workers in the house. And she was like. She made them all lunch and stuff. I think they might have been separated at that point, though. But, yeah, I mean, I think he. I will watch it. I will watch it. I. Yeah, yeah, I actually.
Joanne McNally
I quite liked him. And there's. There's a program called the Girlfriend that's meant to be amazing, but I think it's on Amazon Prime. But I'm gonna watch that next.
Vogue
Yeah, I heard someone recommended the Girlfriend to me. We should watch that. We should watch that together. Vogue.
Joanne McNally
The homework.
Vogue
Yeah, that'd be the homework.
Joanne McNally
That's the homework, everyone. The girlfriend. And last thing I want to say is Elizabeth, Day one of us, her new book, I think it should be out now. It's really good.
Vogue
Oh, great.
Joanne McNally
She's a great writer. Yeah, yeah. I'm really enjoying it.
Vogue
We're fans.
Joanne McNally
Did I miss the goodbye you missed.
Vogue
I did the intro.
Joanne McNally
I knew you were up to something because I could see your hands flying all over the place. I was like, oh, my God, what's going on? Okay, I want to tell you about the hot priest.
Vogue
Hit me.
Joanne McNally
It's a sexy priest. And he basically has. Because I know that you. Those people love God. Now suppose that you've told me he's huge guy.
Vogue
Jesus is having a comeback. Yeah.
Joe
Not in the sense that it's not like.
Vogue
No, it's the best coming. It's the. It's the only comeback he's ever going to have.
Joanne McNally
Yeah, yeah.
Vogue
Last week we were talking about a real comeback. Yeah, of course.
Joanne McNally
No, we were talking about that. And I suppose, like, you wonder who is joining the priesthood nowadays. Well, I can tell you who. Father Jordan. But he's a vicar, so that means that like he said, I get married and stuff, doesn't it, Joe?
Joe
If you're a vicar, I'm going to.
Joanne McNally
Say yes, but yeah, I think so. I'll just say that. Anyway.
Vogue
Yeah, they know you are the, the. The. The vicarage. The Protestant, is it? Vicar Protestant. They understood that if they stop men having sex that they will go insane. So it was. It was a good choice, I think. Yeah, yeah. Love God. Love. You can love Jesus and love riding. And the. The two things can exist at the same time.
Joe
God invented Shaggin. So.
Joanne McNally
Ryden. Yeah, Yeah.
Joe
I don't understand.
Vogue
I know.
Joe
Okay?
Vogue
I know.
Joanne McNally
No, celibacy is not for everybody. Well, this fella, he was only introducing his. His new church and he went online and everyone just went mad. He got these. He basically went viral. Some of the comments that I liked were, I'm Muslim, but Jesus Christ.
Vogue
Yeah, me and Joe wrote that together.
Joanne McNally
Didn't We Joe very pleased with that one, John. This, I think this one was from you. See you on Sunday, Daddy. I mean, Father.
Vogue
Yeah. Down on your knees with your tongue out for communion. Imagine putting communion on your tongue. You're like, oh, sorry. I was. That's disappointing.
Joanne McNally
He told me to come, so I did. Like, he was like, I've never really prayed when I'm on my knees. People were getting really. I can feel the atheism. I'm kind of. I'm kind of into God now.
Vogue
It's the. The Internet's so funny. I really do. I love an afternoon. It's really funny. But also when you see a hot priest like that, ultimately when you break.
Joanne McNally
It down, people are like, I know.
Vogue
What a waste priest.
Joanne McNally
I know.
Vogue
And you're like, there's no way a man that has. Isn't getting around if he can. There's just no way.
Joanne McNally
He's a vicar though. He's not a full priest. So he probably. He probably. No, he's not. Well, I mean he's kind of type. Careful. He's a type. He's a type of priest. Yeah.
Vogue
He's not guaranteed going into heaven because he's.
Joanne McNally
Listen, it's very much like when we give medical advice that you can. It's the same for any religious advice. We don't really know, but I do. But what I do know is Vickers are allowed to have sex with other people.
Vogue
Yeah.
Joanne McNally
And that man, for all we know, is having sex with everyone.
Vogue
And that's why I think they lead a more normal life. And the Vickers will probably. They've more longevity professionally. You know, they don't have to because priests are riding. Priests are like. Remember that huge big bishop in Ireland too. He had like a love child with some woman, like one of his.
Joanne McNally
Herd.
Vogue
Or whatever they're called.
Joanne McNally
Flock.
Vogue
Flock.
Joanne McNally
His flock. He'd love child with the flock.
Vogue
With the woman from the herd. Yeah.
Joanne McNally
Stop.
Vogue
Yeah.
Joanne McNally
I mean he is a bishop. He is a bishop. That's a. There's a lot of power in being a bishop. I want to be buried by a bishop.
Vogue
Men are men are men are men are men and women are women or women are women. But I. If a nun said she had been celibate her whole life, I'd. I'd more believe her. With a bishop you're like, pull the other one, John.
Joanne McNally
Yeah. You know what I mean?
Vogue
Whereas all the money gown that we're putting in the baskets on Sunday, paying for your kids education. Fine. But tell us where the money's going.
Joanne McNally
That will Be the end of our religious discussion today before Joanne McNally gets us into any more trouble. God bless.
Vogue
Yeah. As you leave the church, you're like, love to the kids. Send your wife and your family my regards. Bishop.
Joanne McNally
Do you know what's coming up? 7th October, Joanne's gonna be in Dubai. She's got two shows now. The 6:30 as. As assumed is gone because. Thank you. Fantastic time. Yeah. If there was an earlier show, that would also be gone. But for the 9:30 of us, there's a few tickets left. Not many, not many. But if you're in Dubai, it's going to be a great night out. Get your little toshes there.
Vogue
I think there's a good chunk left, actually. Do you know the. Do you know I've gotten.
Joanne McNally
Don't say that.
Vogue
Sorry, sorry.
Joanne McNally
There's a sprinkle of tickets left.
Vogue
Sorry, sorry.
Joanne McNally
There's two.
Vogue
There's only a half a ticket left. Girls, you have to share a seat.
Joanne McNally
Stop it.
Vogue
Get them while you can. But I do, you know, I've had a lot of messages from women who are like, oh, please, a matinee would be lovely. They're like, we agree with Vogue completely.
Joe
Yeah, we've had many emails.
Joanne McNally
Have you, girls? Joanne, I told you, I'm taking a court. 20%. I'll do it.
Vogue
You're in your health. Okay, bye, guys.
Joanne McNally
No, I. Wait. I have one thing. Thing I want the thing to plug. My book is on as half price on Amazon at the moment. Big mate.
Vogue
Oh, go on.
Joanne McNally
Yeah, well, 40 for the same thing.
Vogue
I might buy it now.
Joanne McNally
I might buy a few myself. Yeah, whack it up those. George. Yeah.
Vogue
The Christmas stocking.
Joanne McNally
I would suggest it's time to get the Christmas presents on the go. Every once in a while I would suggest a copy of the old big mouth 100.
Vogue
You should have done. You should do a small, fatter version for a stocking, like, because it's too obvious. It's a book and a stocking because we used to use my father's hiking socks. Anyway, that's a different story. But you know what? I got an absolute buzz.
Joanne McNally
What did you fit in a hiking. What did you get?
Vogue
Like a pen? Well, no, because. What was it? We'd bulk it out. There was chocolate coins on. In the, in the. In the toes.
Joanne McNally
Okay.
Vogue
Chocolate coins. No, no, we're, we're. No, no, we were like, we're not.
Joanne McNally
Living in the 40s. No one's cat. An orange. A mandarin. Father.
Vogue
He's just come back from war.
Joanne McNally
A little mince pie for you, sir. But seriously, a hiking sock, Huge big.
Vogue
White hiking socks and there would be chocolate coins in the toes. And then the gifts would kind of like get, you know, like, kind of like painting kits and all that kind of jazz. But nothing to a book is so physically obvious that it's a kind of a bit of a, you need to, you need, do you know what you need to do? You need to write a book in the shape of a Terry's Chocolate Orange because then stockings and no will know because they'll just assume it's a Terry.
Joanne McNally
You know what? I, I don't think a hiking sock is my concern anymore because I think everybody has these like, absolutely. Like if I have a stocking at the end of my bed, I'm expecting a laptop in there or something.
Vogue
Not a chocolate going, no, sorry, it was the 80.
Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Date: September 19, 2025
In this characteristically candid and hilarious episode, Vogue and Joanne dive into their recent travel mishaps, stories of running away as children, morbid true crime podcast recommendations, nostalgic childhood games, and the viral allure of a "sexy priest." With unfiltered banter and plenty of laugh-out-loud moments, the duo offers their unique takes on everything from Ryanair window seats to the logistics of crematorium crimes — all bookended by pop culture recommendations and a sly dig at organized religion.
[01:21 – 05:35]
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[32:02 – 36:06]
[36:19 – End]
On Ryanair Timekeeping:
“First of all, it doesn't take an hour and a half to get to London... That's how much time they give you just so they're on time.” — Joanne [01:47]
On Running Away:
“I used to bring really random stuff that you wouldn't need... Just random crap, I guess.” — Joanne [15:56]
“Where was I going with the delf? I had no money.” — Vogue [16:05]
On Morbid Podcasts:
“I would not recommend listening to it if you've just lost somebody... It's not for the faint-hearted.” — Vogue [25:53]
“So who the f*** was that?” — Vogue, about the ashes given in the Noble case [27:37]
On the Viral Priest:
“I'm Muslim, but Jesus Christ.” — Internet comment, read by Joanne [33:22]
“See you on Sunday, daddy. I mean, Father.” — Joanne quoting another comment [33:30]
“You can love Jesus and love riding… The two things can exist at the same time.” — Vogue [33:00]
True to their reputation, Vogue and Joanne maintain a breezy, irreverent, and deeply honest tone throughout, constantly riffing off each other's anecdotes with warmth, wit, and just enough darkness to keep it real. Their conversational style and cultural references make the episode both empathetic and unfiltered, perfect for listeners who appreciate a mix of nostalgia, scandal, and silliness.
Overall:
A quintessential episode packed with wild travel tales, darkly funny true crime, nostalgic childhood banter, cheeky takes on religion, and trademark Joanne-and-Vogue insight. Unmissable for fans craving honesty, humour, and the curious comfort of friends sharing life’s strangest details.