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This is a Global Player original podcast. Hello, and welcome to my therapist, Ghost of Me, with me, Vogue Williams, Joe Atwell, and the queen of the buns, Joanne McNally. I reckon the listeners, even if you were having a session in your gaff in the background, I reckon the listeners will be okay with it. They'd be like, it's Joanne, she's Grant.
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I'd be like. I'd be like, lads, keep it down for a second. I've magic mic here doing balloons on the bedroom floor. Just give me an hour, lads, will you? Yeah, Because I think it's a feminist masterpiece. I. I've been. I've been over this again and again and again.
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They couldn't have been more disappointed to have to wait around and get pictures with us at the end, remember?
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Sorry. Oh, my God. It's so funny that you bring that up.
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Such a good night.
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I want to see Titanique on Valentine's night. I met the cast after, right? Because Ross, who I went with, knew one of the actors and they're like, we're coming in like, oh, come up and meet us after. Blah, blah, blah. Fine. I was like, oh, I'd love to. That's great crack. But I. In my mind, because when I post show, I post show when I meet people, I usually, I'm in their dressing. I bring people into the dressing room or I do meet and greets on stage door or whatever. So I didn't know. Anyway, I forgot. He was like, they're going to come down to the stage now meet you. And I was like, oh, I'm triggered, I'm triggered. Then the last time this happened was me and Vogue at Magic Mike, because Magic Mike invited us in and we went willingly. And then they were like, thrilled, thrilled. And we had a lovely time and they asked us, would he get a photo with the cast at the end. And we were like, yeah, of course. Assuming the cast didn't want us all dead.
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Love to.
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They came.
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We've had a lot of drinks. We'd had a lot.
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No, no. Vogue. No, no, no. I mean, I'm in our defense now, and this is no offense to the cast of Magic Mike, because I understand it completely.
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Yeah.
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As a fellow performer, sometimes post show you're like, I just wanna. I just wanna sit in the dark. Do you know what I mean? I'm a social battery is depleted. These lads, when I say, and no shade, no shade, no tea, they. The last thing they wanted to do was stand on the stage with Vogue and I. It was so awkward. So we Thought they might be like. Like we were kind of buzzing stuff.
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It actually makes me. Do you know when you think back and you're like, oh, cringe. Like, I actually felt disgusting. I was like, oh, my God, Veruca on someone's foot. No one wants someone. Get the nail file and get me off.
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I'll tell you exactly. They invited us. They asked us to do a photo, and then they treated us like two competition winners who banged down the door to get a photo with the cast. And that's the God's honest truth. Joe, whether you can leave this in or not, I don't know. But that is what happened. It was so embarrassing. The lads had no interest.
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Even with you. Like, you're grand after the show because you're, like, up for having a little drink or something when you meet somebody, but some people just aren't. Like, I hate meeting people after a show because I just feel like I'm really invading their space. Like that time Spenny proposed to me in front of all those lions who are nearly dead.
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Yeah.
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They were like Mufasa. By the end of it, they were like dead lions. And me and Smeny show up like, happy as Larry getting engaged. I was like, get me, please.
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I know.
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Such a.
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Such a wild choice on Spencer's behalf.
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Honestly, knowing.
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Knowing how I know him now. I. It doesn't make any sense.
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Spenny proposed to me at the Lion King at. At the stage. So he wants to post me while they were on the stage, but Disney had to explain that actually, this is a live performance that people have paid for, so you can't interrupt it for your proposal.
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Yeah.
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So anyway. Oh, really? And anyway, like, no. No shade to the Lion King. I just never. It's not my. It's not even in my top five Disney's. My favorite is. I know. My favorite's Beauty and the Beast. It's Spencer's favorite. And that's why it makes perfect, Spence. Because, Spence. It makes perfect, Spence.
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Perfect Spence. Yeah, Perfect Spence.
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I didn't think we'd be doing this, but you do need to give us your top five Disney's now because.
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Sorry. Oh, yeah. Five. Yeah.
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Now, I love Finding Nemo because I do love the ride at Disneyland Paris.
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Oh, I like where that went at the end there. I was very confused. I was like, I don't consider Nemo erotic.
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Nemo is a what? Nemo's a fantastic.
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No, you went. You went. I love the ride. And then you. And you broke for, like, seven minutes before you finished the Sentence.
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I mean, I love the ride. Yes, I do.
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Yeah. It's not a fish fetish.
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I do.
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I had.
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Fish is your fetish.
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Oh God, no. If fish is your fetish. Any, any opportunity to wangle that in there. I had a lad email me and was like, do you mind? Can I propose to my girlfriend at your show? And I said, well, Joe and Vogue, you've both seen my show. I was like, you haven't seen the show because it is the.
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It is like you after.
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It's like bringing an especially spoon to a knife fight. I said, you don't want to be doing a proposal on stage.
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Spoon. No, imagine.
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Imagine we'll be booing and hissing like it's. It's not. It's not. It's not the room.
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It's not the show for love.
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It's about friendship love. Not straight boy girl love. So I was like, no. Anyway, look, also Rick, my. I call him my English agent because that's basically what he is. Was saying that he proposed to his wife, they met in the Brixton Academy and then as the proposal he got the guys in Brixton Academy to. To write up in letters above the venue. Will you marry me to his.
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That's quite nice.
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It is quite nice. And while he was still on his. Because it's a brick. We were joking about the fact when you come out of a venue, they pull your name down. Oh. Like you're literally. You're taking your last bow and your name has been. And your posters have been ripped off the walls for the next act. And Rick was saying last night. Cuz he was in the Apollo with me and he was saying that when he proposed, he was still on his knees and they were pulling down the ladders. Yeah. Yeah.
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They really don't waste a moment. Give us a couple of your favorite Disney movies. I'm Beauty and the Beast and Defining Nemo. What about Up Up? You know that man that's never seen
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your mom at the balloon house. I've never seen it. I love balloons, as we've established. Floats to the sky. What's the crack? Did his wife die? Something sad. Why is Disney always trying to make you cry? Let me have a taste.
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Nice to cry. It's important.
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Give me a not. Give me some options. I don't. I'm not. Nothing's. Are we talking about cartoons?
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Don't forget the live action ones. You. Because you got. You got Mary Poppins, you've got Bedrocks and broomsticks.
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Oh, you like things like that? That's your style. I don't know those things. Yeah, yeah. You like Oliver?
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Is Oliver not one Annie?
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It is not.
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Annie was a big dream of mine to play her, and it was the only one. I hit my 40s. That dream is probably over.
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No, it's not.
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Younger, in my 30s, I was like, give me a curly red wig. I'll. I'll do it.
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You can still do tomorrow.
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What you've never.
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Those freckles you put on. You're Annie. Sorry.
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I'm big into the freckles. I have a freckle pen. Joe, you won't get us because you're a man bus. I'm cute.
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I don't get it.
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I'm cute now I. And so live Davey does my makeup. She puts them on for me with the freckle pen. And then I tried to do them myself. And Garod was very clear. He's like, you look like you've got syphilis. I was like, fine. So I wiped them off.
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But can I just say something? And this isn't even a plug Fair by Vogue. I do. You can't put them on a bear by Vogue if you get a tiny little thing. But you can actually contour your whole face and everything. Like, you can contour your nose. Contour. Like do that little Hailey Bieber thing with the. Yeah.
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You know, I would. I would look like I was doing some sort of.
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You would just look like you've got them all on my lip. All over your face. You just do big, big, huge ones everywhere.
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I would look like I was doing a fecal protestation. You know, I would. Now I wouldn't do it right. I wouldn't do it right. Sorry. For Disney films. I love the Lion King.
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Okay, annie, he's not Disney.
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7. Where your ones heads in a box.
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Yeah, great movie. Paranormal Activity. The Conjuring.
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Yeah. The one where Toni Collette, she's like,
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I am your mother.
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Is that Disney?
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Oh, yeah. Great Disney movie, Joe.
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Google that.
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The one where she's like, I am your mom.
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The Magdalene Laundries. The Magdalene. That is a great movie, though.
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Yeah. And Schindler's List.
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Schindler's List. I love that one. What came first, the lift or the movie?
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So I think Schindler is a really popular, like a kind of. It's kind of like the. The burn of Germany. Do you know what I mean?
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Can I say something?
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And so I think Schindler and the lifts are not related. And though. And you know what? Do you know what keeps me awake at night? The first time I was in a Schindler lift in Birmingham, I did a story or a joke about it and I was like, it's so embarrassing that I thought that that was an original thought.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's like. It's like me thinking I invented a knock, knock joke. Do you know what I mean? Like, oh, I've thought of a saying. Laughter is the best medicine. You're welcome. Like, it was so. It's so embarrassing. But I did a joke about it.
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Who did that? Someone did something like that,
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obviously. Are you saying this to excite me and bring me joy? You know, I love this story. Alexander, what's her face?
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Alexandra Burke. She's a great singer. Now, in fairness, Alexandra thought she'd invented the saying elephant in the room. Is that right?
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She. She called an album. Joe, can we get up the facts here? Get up the facts.
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She was Daybreak. She claimed to have phenomenal phrase in the room.
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Give us something that she called. She said she had some sexual tension with an ex boyfriend. She wrote an album about it and she called the album Elephant. And she called the album Elephant because she was like, there was an elephant in the room because I had tension with his ex boyfriend. And. And she's like, it's. It's a really popular set. Yeah. Guangzhou. Read it out there.
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She said, I never heard of the same before until I did my writing camp for the album. It's a very American saying, so why not be the first person to bring it over here and make it into a song?
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Oh, God. Amazing. But it's nice to feel like that.
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I woke up this morning and I said to myself, early bird, worm.
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Did you make that up? Yeah.
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And then I coined us.
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Yeah.
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I said, what? And I'm booked onto GB News to tell them all about it.
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Well, actually, Joanne, there was finally a break in the weather over here in Ireland, and I said to myself, I said, great drying out.
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I thought you were gonna say you invented there's a stretch in the evening. But great drying out is also impressive.
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I was gonna say, now it's five o' clock and it's still bright, and you're right, there's a grand stretch.
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There's a grand stretch. Sorry, Alexandra, if you're listening, which I assume you are.
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Alexandra.
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Alexandra, if you're listening, which obviously I assume you are, we love you, but it was just funny. Allow us to tease. We're just teasing. It was funny.
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Hello and welcome to. My therapist ghosted me. Maybe we'll start again. Hell, John's having a Party and a gaffer. Joanne and Joe are coming fresh from a very big day. I say Joanne McNally has slept for two sleeps. She had a full big sleep at night and a little nap today in the space ones. And they have lasted. So Whoever did them, 10 out of 10 job. Tell me about yesterday right now.
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Well, so I, I, My double Apollo Sunday, the matinee and the 3:00pm and the 8:00pm Joe, enter the 3:00pm Joe went to 3:00pm and you did. Joe. I don't keep track of who's coming in and who's not coming in. So, like. Because I'd be driven mad with the guest list, blah, blah, blah. Because it's like, you know, it's a bit chaotic because I'm involved. So a lot of the time I'm just like, ugh, someone's gonna turn. There's always inevitably someone turns up and they're like, my name's not the door, blah, blah. But Joe, you should have come back and said hi.
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I would have loved to. You know, we had child care. My mum and dad had come up from Somerset to look after the girls. Yeah, fair, fair back. There's a couple of things I have to say about.
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It would be nice to see you.
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Couple things which, you know, it's awkward to say because we do work together and it's a professional relationship.
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You fancy me now because you've seen me on stage. You're like, no, not that.
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It happens. It happens. You had a ham shandy tour last night.
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No. Sake.
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Is it a ham shanty? What's it called?
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Hand. There's no hams.
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It's a ham shanty.
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Sorry, John. I'm not wanking all the time. I don't know what a harm shandy is. I don't tend to go and wank off.
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Changed your tune. There was a time all you talked about was wanking.
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Can I please get this out without us?
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Are you being sentimental, Joe? You're gonna say something nice to me very quickly. Okay, let's not delete Ali. Okay, go on.
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You were absolutely that show and you are just incredible. I've watched a lot of people do stand up comedy and there's lots of people who are very good at it. But genuinely, it was so nice. Masterful. It was, it was everything that a stand up show should be. It was unbelievable. You were amazing.
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Thanks, Joe. That's so nice.
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Disappointing thing. You definitely went on.
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I want, I want. I needed the negative because we'll never be able to get through so much positive talk show because we don't speak to each other like this.
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It used to be the case that you could come to one of Joanne McNally's shows and find the most peaceful place on earth. And that would be the men's toilets.
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Yes.
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They used to be the quietest place on God's earth. Men come to your shows now. There's men. There's lots of men. There's men. There's many men.
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Straight men are. Gay men.
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They're straights from.
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From the vibe.
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Mostly guys from.
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From my gaydar in. In the toilets. A lot of straight men in there.
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Yeah, they are. There's more common.
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Pointed.
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Rick was saying this. So we were talking about it last night. We're like, there's definitely something shifting. There's more lads coming in now. There's more. They're coming in with their partners, but they're. They are coming in still.
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It's. It's.
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Yeah.
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Night that a man can go and have a. And enjoy it. And I think it's nice that, like, although it's a great night for the girls, but it's nice that you can go out with your.
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Yeah.
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With your fella.
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It actually is.
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So were you drunk? Did you drink? What happened? What time did you start drinking? Were you hungover? We died.
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It was a Sunday, so I'd been at work. I've been at work only a couple of hours before, so I have time for a pint of Guinness beforehand. And I had another pint during the show. So, no, I wasn't drunk.
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Come here. This is the perfect time. And then. And then we'll move on. Sorry, I know we're always plugging for the plug and penal. Joe. This is the perfect time to say, I've actually added a 10th Apollo.
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And then it's a good number.
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Do you know what, folk? I actually agree with you. And it's in December. Like, nine would be a shame. Nine.
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Nine's not a good number. It's bad vibes.
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I completely agree.
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I'm serious.
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I think it's like. It. We were. Me and Rick were going through the pros and the cons. I was like, just. Let's just do it. Because I was. Anyway, whatever. December 17th. If anyone's. If anyone's.
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Well, I will go. I'll go to that one. Oh, I will. Yeah.
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Okay.
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Oh, thanks.
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Oh, excuse me. Excuse me. John, I told you, I'm already going to the 3 Arena. I'll go to your show three times because I know by the time I go in December, it will be a different show.
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Also, I feel like I'm always banging on about peanut butter at the moment. Vogue, the Internet tells me, because you didn't tell me. You didn't bother your hole to tell me. I tell you everything. Literally everything I do, every movement I make. Vogue is the grand marshal for the St Patrick's Day parade in Dublin. And I saw the video where you went, I haven't even told you on yet. And I was like, and why not? I tell you everything.
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Okay, I need to explain what I
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will tell you right spotting between my menstrual cycles. You tell me nothing.
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I have to one. I was like, I. I'm so excited to be doing it, first of all, that I was like, I didn't want to jinx it.
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You know, that you don't trust me. I knew you were going to jump for ages. And I never said a word to anyone. Only my 60 closest friends and my mother. And I never got out two.
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I don't know what people give a about anymore. And that's the honesty. Amber text me and she goes, what the. You're the grandma. And she was like, when we're. When were you planning on telling me this? And I rang. It's kind of a big deal, I know, but I was like, where did you think I was going this morning? Like I said, I thought you were going to Cork. I was like, that's tomorrow. Then my brother was like, vogue, I've just had some fella text me. And he said, oh, you're going to be getting great seats to the Patrick's Day parade now. And I wrote back and said, oh, I think you sent this to the wrong person. And then he said, no, I've just heard about your sister.
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Oh, that's fine. I just. If everyone's in the dark, fine. I just don't want to feel like it's only me.
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So. St Patrick's Day is one of the biggest festivals that we have in Ireland. And the St Patrick's Day festival, it kind of runs over a few days. But I'm going to be the grand marshal for the parade itself. I know it's one of the biggest parades. It's 500, 000 people or something. Go to it.
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Yeah.
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And I am as the most. I am. I'm. Okay. I'm not going to say I'm the most patriotic person in Ireland, but I am one of them. And I love Ireland. I'm getting to do. This is like a dream job. So I didn't say anything because I had the press call today and I'm like, they can't take it back. So now I can tell people. So it's happening. I'm doing it.
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Yeah.
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St. Patrick's Day. And then they were like, to me, we. We have a spot in the Marion for you, but we heard you love staying in your house in H. I
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was like, oh, no, no, no, no, I'll go to the Marion. Thank you.
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There's not many places.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll be into the Mar. Thanks. I'll have.
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I'll go to the.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love my house and all, but, like, come on.
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I said.
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I'm not saying.
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Fine. I want to. I really want to look like a team player. So, fine, I'll go to the marriage.
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And don't they do a nice breakfast for you and stuff? Isn't it like a whole day? You'll meet Catherine Connolly.
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I'm gonna meet Catherine Connolly and yeah, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna say, Catherine, my dear friend Joanne and I great at parties. We have no interesting etiquette.
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No, no.
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Okay. Well, I do.
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We've been burnt.
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People.
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Can people burn by the establishment
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coming back.
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Fine, I've been burnt. I wouldn't piss on Orisa Neutron if it's on fire.
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You wouldn't?
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No. You're burnt too long. No, no. Michael D. It was a. It was a real. It was a real slighting.
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It was very little.
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It was very real rejection.
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Self respect. So I will.
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Of course I would. Of course I would. Of course. Oh, yeah, I'll be wiping. Yeah, yeah. I'll be like, thanks so much for the opportunity. Yeah, yeah. So you're in the front of the car. It's all very.
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Imagine I start talking to her and her PR is like. Joanne was saying how she'd wipe your arse. Like, Joann,
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she's cracking on. We all need a support.
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You can't say that.
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Well, now I can't say to you because you're running St. Patrick's Day and you've been in.
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Into the.
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Into Orison Utron now.
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I don't think I've ever been more excited.
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Get me the WI FI code.
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I'll be honest with you. I wasn't gonna bring the kids because they're in school. And I was thinking that, like, I genuinely am so excited about it for myself that I was like, I'll have a lovely day. And, like, I'll take Amber. And so. And then when I was there and I was in the. I was like, oh, maybe I' take the kids. Well, John, you're always on tour.
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I am. No, I'm in the States. I'm in the States. Fine. But you know yourself folk. I like to be included and then I can. And then I can reject you.
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Would you like to ride in the car with me?
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I'd love to. I've had an intrusive thought so I'm going to share it because this is what my therapist says I should do.
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I don't believe it.
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Shot you with you. Whatever. So I. They're very encouraging. Everything I say, they're like, absolutely. I'm like, will I murder. Will I murder Vogue and Joe? They're like, absolutely. Let's talk about it.
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Yeah.
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ChatGPT. Very, very inclusive. I've had an intrusive thought where you are riding through Dublin waving your tits off in a open topped car and you are assassinated. Yeah, like the candidates.
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You know what, not that strange because I also had the thought.
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I also yeah thought I think if I were you I'd go full Pope mobile. I would get some sort of bulletproof plan.
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And they're all right for guns in Ireland. No, we're all right. I know. I might get a pelican. Pelican. Same damage, very painful.
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Or you might get tasered.
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Just don't throw and piss at me, please.
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No, if that's the worst that happens, fine.
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Yeah, that's fine.
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Yeah. But just. Okay, please God. And that's why I. I won't take your offer of to ride alongside you. A, I'm not in Ireland at the time but B, I could see myself as John Candy's John F. Kennedy's wife where she. You're assassinated sitting beside me. And then your blood is on my costume. And then yeah, there's blood spatter. And then I have to donate my address to a museum because it's your blood. Blood is on it. Which is exactly what. What's her name?
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Jackie O. But Jackie Odisha. So I'm so glad that I would.
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I'd put it on Etsy, I'd sell it.
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You've really given me a real drive for the day. I'm very excited. And when I thought I'll shoot you
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myself, I'll shoot you myself.
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I can't wait. I was in Dunes today, Duns buying all the bits for the kids. I think I might take them. I might take the older two who are easier but I just genuine feel like they were so they just didn't give a about gladiators. I couldn't even beg them to sit down and watch my Bit.
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No, I wouldn't be our spring. And the kids. There's a lot of wave and it's a long drive.
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I feel like I should. I feel like this is something I should maybe do alone.
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I agree.
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Marion. When I heard the Marion was involved, I said, they don't even ruin us.
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Yeah. And breakfast of Catherine Connolly. Great day out. Paid me to fortune. There you go.
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I cannot wait.
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I have something else to say about you driving around and getting assassinated.
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Well, I think I'd rather you didn't actually
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listen. Best of luck.
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I want to talk about Valentine's Day. I have this.
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Why?
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Well, because I have this weird thing about Valentine's Day.
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Okay.
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I've decided I'll indulge. It gives me the ick.
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Oh, Grant. Yeah, of course it's nonsense.
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I just don't. So I'll tell you what. Okay. I'll tell you what we did. And we did it because we're home. And it was. We didn't have time to go out this week. And our favorite restaurant in Hope, if you ever come and say, my house. It's called Mamo. It's delicious. And Sonny was like, we'll go for a really early dinner. So we went for a six o' clock dinner, Grant. But, oh, they were all two, tops. And I just felt really embarrassed. And I felt embarrassed of myself. And I feel. I almost feel like when people are declaring their love for each other on Instagram. I honestly feel. And I know it's so mean, but I just can't get involved. And I don't know why I have. And this hasn't stemmed from nowhere. Like, this is back. Back in the day. I used to feel sorry for my dad. And I'd be like, come on, dad will go out for Valentine's Day. Like he'd give a shite about Valentine's Day whether he knew it was Valentine's Day or not either. I'll take you. I'm not. Yeah, my boyfriend. I don't want it. It's so embarrassing.
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You're a nice daughter.
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I'm just allergic to it. The only thing I do like is. Wait, you see this? I am. I know. I've. I. I do this for the kids. I get them all cards and I do it in handwriting. Spenny was like, is that your handwriting? I was like, no, Spen, I'm trying to be a five year old here.
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Sorry, I can't see that now. You'll have to.
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You are very kind and good at drawing. I saw you in my friend's house in Ireland. You are the best.
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Sorry, who wrote that? That again? Sounds like Chachi BT wrote that card.
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Me. I'm trying to.
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I saw you in my friend's house and I'm sorry, are you pretending to be a love interest for Gigi?
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Yes.
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Oh, wow, that's dark.
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Look at that writing on Theodores. And his card says, I love you more than YouTube. And that's a loss. He loves YouTube.
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Look, I, I, I can't say I understand it, but I respect it.
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Whatever you're doing, Theodore, I go to school you and I think you are cool and good at football. You're Valentine. Guess who?
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Vogue. I, I, I, I, I have to, I have to step in here and say, well, you think you're mothering 101 and, and you are to some degree. You're also faking. This is all very catfish. Remember your 1. Remember that Netflix documentary where your woman was trolling around daughter over riding like this is this is questionable morally. I don't know what you're pretending to be Theodore's love interest again.
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I only figured.
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I want no part of this, Joe. I want no part of this.
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Dear Otto, I think you are great like Tony the Tiger. Lots of love, your secret admirer. And I said, my friend actually was like, yeah, I get the kids Valentine's stuff and cards. And I was like, and what you say in the cars? And she says, I say, love mom and Dad.
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I was like, yeah, that's kind of what I say.
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Love mom and dad.
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That's nor that's the normal thing to is better.
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Now they think someone now they think someone's sending them cars.
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The was like, it's mat you're gaslighting your own kids and I'm here for it, Joanne.
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And they felt great about themselves. And I said, oh my God, look, they sent you sweets. I'll kill them. Who sent you sweets? I will kill them.
B
This is much better than one year. My mom sent me a birthday card blank. She was like, we I, I didn't, I didn't write and then say, can you so you can reuse the card. She was like, thanks.
A
So this is my mom and Neil in a pack.
B
It's like, there you go.
A
Thanks my mom and Neil sent Awesome One for his 30th birthday. They didn't even write happy birthday. You know, you open the card and it says happy Birthday. And they just said, love, Mama Neil.
B
Yeah, of course. Like our parents are, they're Irish parents. Like, there's no, like, there's no I Remember when me and my family were in Lanzarote for Christmas? We had some family photos taken and the photographer was trying to get us all to like touch and kiss. And we were just like these rigid, frigid Irish people. Be like, no, just take the photo. Like she was saying to my nephew. They were like, hug your granny. Put your arms. No, this is all very Beckham, Brooklyn coded. Just get on with us.
A
I do like some of the content that's online. I was watching this video of somebody and like she was doing this video that her fella had like set up all these rose petals going down the stairs.
B
Pathetic.
A
The place.
B
Sorry, sorry.
A
The place. She's filming it on the way down, being like, my. My man is so cute. It was honestly like someone had shot all over the walls. There was just piles of shit in the corner. It was the filthiest eyes. And someone had commented underneath. He could have treated you to a steam pain on the carpet.
B
Because sometimes I follow some accounts that intentionally rage bait by cooking their kids like terrible meals. Like, you know, they're packing little like miniature vodkas for their kids, like packed lunch. Do you think it was. Was it a bit rage Beatty?
A
No, no, she was serious. And I love those things. And there was a few online things that like one thing now, an update I got. I don't even know if you guys. Well, you'd. No interest in the Beckhams. And look what happened there. It all came to fruition. Cardi B's back with your man Steph, and she was seeing with him.
B
I. Do you know what? I'm gonna be honest. I have no interest in Cardi B. I am. I am bat into Nancy Guthrie at the moment. That is my.
A
I. I don't know who that is.
B
So thanks for asking, even though you didn't.
A
I just. I've seen stuff and it's like something about her doorstep, but I don't know what any of it means.
B
Is an 84 year old American woman who has been abducted from her own home. She's the mother of Savannah Guthrie, who hosts a morning TV show in America. She's been taken from the house. Her pacemaker is detached from her Apple Watch. They're. I'm following this podcast. It's like 11 minutes a day of like, what's going on. The. The. The investigation has been botched from what I can tell. So much so that the house that she was abducted from, someone ordered. There was a journalist sitting in a car outside the front of the house and they ordered a pizza. And the Pizza guy walked up and delivered it to the main home. Did you hear all this?
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Anyway, no one knows what's going on. I feel like it's an inside job. This isn't like conspiracy. It always is. Same with Elizabeth Smart. When they took her, it was like,
A
I'd send them to Pat if I was you. If she's ever pissed me off, be like, Pat, step in line.
B
I. When I think of the idea of someone stealing Pat and her being abducted and kidnapped and that I have to sit every night not knowing what. Where she is and what's going on. Desperate, I.
A
Do you know how many people go missing in the States? I think Google that. Wait till you hear the stats on the people that go missing in the States. I also read this mental stat about.
B
About.
A
I thought that you'd love it because it had to do it. Yeah. So, based on a 2006 report by the National Academies of Science Institute of medicine in the US alone, poor handwriting on prescription notes leads to 7, 000 deaths a year. Yeah. And 1.5 million medical errors from bad handwriting.
B
So I'm. So what are they like, what. They're. They're in there for paracetamol and they're getting fentanyl. I don't understand.
A
Yeah, Something mad that they're not supposed to be having. Did you look?
C
Wow, that starts in excess of 600000 people go missing in the US every year.
A
Mad, gone. Find a poof. Varnish without a trace.
B
Do you know what though? And like, listen, I don't know because this is new information to me. I don't know what the background of those people are, but I think a lot of people, maybe some people like, choose to go missing. Yeah, some people, maybe they have addiction issues and they kind of dissolve into anonymity, all that stuff. But look, I'm also a victim of the news cycle. So like I only see, you know, there's certain stuff that kind of drags me in. And the Nancy Guthrie thing, because it stinks to high heaven and there's talk that it's her son in law. There's something. You don't just randomly go in and fucking steal a woman out of her house.
A
Anyway, very clever with the apple watch though, to know that that was connected to the pacemaker. Because I remember there was a case of this man who had murdered his wife in Greece and she was an English woman, quite young, and they had a, like a one year old baby and he was like, I have nothing to do, nothing to that Data on her. I think she was. I think she was wearing a. Like maybe an aura or. Or an apple watch. Because of the data, they could see when there was a spot. Yeah. Energy. And then. And then gone. And then they could see when she was dead. So all of his story just didn't make sense. Awful.
B
Well, I think her. Her apple watch stopped her connecting. It wasn't immediate. It was a couple of days after she was taken. And they. But do you know what the big issue is now with AI? That when. When the what? So there's been a couple of letters. One of them's asking for like, 6 million Bitcoin, but they're like, we need proof of life. It's very difficult in this day and age to trust proof of life. Like Evoke. We're re sharing videos of penguins playing the tambourine. Like we don't have a clue what's going on. So how do you get proof of life off your mother, anyway? Whatever. It's a dark conversation, but. I went to see the film of the moment.
A
Wuthering Heights.
B
Wuthering Heights.
A
Amazing.
B
I hated us.
A
I'm shocked.
B
Jokes. I loved it so much, I haven't stopped thinking about it.
A
Stop. I am dead. I'm gonna go see that this weekend. So Emerald Fennel, she's the director and she did Saltburn and she.
B
Another one, Joe. What was the other one she did?
C
Promising Young Woman.
B
Promising Young Woman.
A
Yeah. She said she is incredible. She makes these amazing movies. But, like, the people who are kind of like, dissing it at the start, they're these like, mega, mega Wuthering Heights fans. And she's like, this is my take on it. It's like, it's not going to be exactly what you think it is in the book. And that's what makes me so excited. Like, all the clothes, everything, like, the. The actors. Jacob Elordi, Margot Robbie. I can't wait. I'm so glad you loved it.
B
I went with Louise o', Neill, you know.
C
Yeah.
B
Incredibly talented Irish writer. And I was. Because there's been so much negative talk about Wuthering Heights.
A
And.
B
Yeah, I was like, I don't. I. I don't know what I'm expecting here. And when we were going to the cinema, Louise was like, oh, apparently. Apparently it's really horny. And I was like, oh, is not quite chaste. Like, I read Wuthering Heights years ago in school. College. I can't remember. And fine, yeah, good book. Like, classic book, whatever. Emily Bronte. Like, tick, tick, tick, blah, blah, blah. But I could. I knew Heathcliff, Cathy. I knew the general consensus, but it's gone from my brain as everything is. Do you know what I mean? And I was like, oh, I don't know what to expect. She was like, it's really horny. And I was like, oh, is it not really chased? Like it's an Emily brought. And she's like, no, it's an adoption. Blah, blah, blah. Went in the fucking second it started. I was like, I am so into this. It is epic. I'm gonna use the term cinematography, even though I don't know what that means. The soundtrack is stunning. Charli xcx, the first song. Think you're gonna die up in this, which I've listened to religiously ever since. It is the Moore's.
A
Ah.
B
Jacob Watts's face, who I can never remember.
A
Jacob Elordi with Elordi handbags.
B
Margaret Robbie, my friend was like, I don't buy into it.
A
I don.
B
Believe that she, a woman who looks like Margot Robbie is gonna have a sexual awakening with. I was like, dude, as my friend Louise o' Neill said, can people stop banging on about the representation and just enjoy the costumes and the fingering? It is fantastic. I left aroused and sad. I loved it. I was crying and I. You know how medicated I am. Vogue. It's very hard for me to cry.
A
Hard to get a tear.
B
They are so in love. And I. I have not felt that love in so long. I. That, like, lost desire is it, like
A
so much at the very start of a relationship and you're just like, there's
B
the slow burn love, like we're best friends love. And then there's also a version of love where it's like, I want to ride you all day, all night. I am your. I am your ride jockey, blah, blah, blah. And that's what this is. I think it's. I think they actually have both. I think Kathy and he could have had both. I'm quite jealous. And I was like, it's so long since I felt like that. And I was crying and Louise is like, are you okay, hon? I was like, no, it's remind. I miss romance. Oh, the longing in it. It was gorgeous.
A
Can you like. Yeah. But think about this. This is great for you to have an awakening because you can have that. Like, I'm sorry.
B
Not everyone has that love.
A
Yeah. Joanne, you can have a Joe. We can't anymore because we're married for so long. It's not ever gonna be like that again. When I see things like that, I'M like, like, I won't feel that again. Not that I'm not in love with my husband. It's never this, like, start when you're panting. Get enough of each other, honestly. Licking each other's heads and stuff. And then you're. Now I'm like, no, no, no. Don't you dare touch my toothbrush.
B
Yeah. As we know, Esther Perel, my. My best friend and confidant who doesn't know I exist. She's like, desire is in the unknown. That's where desire lives. It's in the unknown. So as soon as you know someone. But. But I will say for Heathcliff and Cat. Heathcliff. For Heathcliff and Kathy, it's in the known. It's. They know. They're like, she's like, whatever part of the cell. My soul is his cell. And just the. The again, the cinematography, the. Oh, the.
A
The art department costumes. Yeah. I want to see everything like that.
B
People are snobs. There was some guy online or some woman I don't know. They were like, oh, Emily Bronte died of tuberculosis, but Wuthering Heights rights is. This is the worst thing that's ever happened to her. I was like, shut up. Do you not think how many bro. Imagine how many. Bronto was like, how dare people still be talking about me in 2026. She was completely ignored when she was alive. And now everyone's like worshiping at her altar. She'd be offspring her royalties.
A
I know, but these are people that just like, can't move on in life. And they're like, they're still stuck in the past. Like Wuthering Heights. Yes. That was the old Wuthering Heights. This is the new Wuthering Heights. We're bringing it into the the whatever century.
B
It's inadvertent commas. Wuthering Heights. It's like, yeah. Comparing this adaption of Wuthering Heights to her dying of tuberculosis. It's a clickbaity thing. And I'll say this, and you can quote me on this, Margaret, Robbie and Jacob Watts's face are full blown riding. I don't care what anyone says. Allegedly. Blah, blah, blah. Sorry. When I say I was vibrating off my seat with the chemistry between the two of them. I have never seen that like it.
A
He. The eyes. He is a dirty ride, isn't he? Yeah.
B
Do you know what?
A
He is gorgeous.
B
I also think he's drank his own Kool Aid and thinks he's way more interesting than he is.
A
Have you seen the size of Pazzi
B
shots with his holding his book and drinking his out flat white.
A
I saw. I don't. I don't take that on board. I saw him saying to the. Yeah, he's tall. So who gives a. I don't care. I don't care if his face looks like it came out of a meat grinder.
B
He's tall. But this is the problem with height. I dated an ex con because he was tall. This is the problem with height. It's. It leads you down all sorts of paths. But the chemistry between the two of them.
A
I couldn't bear my ride of a wife, Robbie, to be honest.
B
Her husband was part of the production because I think her husband and her have a production company now. So he was on set. Listen, maybe it's acting. I don't know. I don't act.
A
But you don't have to. You know the way in a polyamorous relationship, they say you have to unlearn jealousy. You'd have to unlearn jealousy as an actor because that would be.
B
Yeah.
A
Unbearable to watch.
B
Yeah. Well, the whole bu Thing is like, you don't own anything. You like you to let it all flow free. Do you know your man in that thing?
A
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
B
Yeah, Joe, do the work. Do the work.
C
Yeah, yeah, I'm on it now. Yeah, do the work.
B
The guy in the thing. The guy in the thing where he mer. He's a murderer, but everyone fancies him. Mom.
A
Oh, yeah. Ted Bundy.
B
No, fancy.
A
I don't think anyone fancied everyone fancy Ted Bundy. He was really charming, supposedly.
B
No, no, no. There's an. Oh, no, there's a.
A
It's true. Google it. And that's why he got away with so much, because he was so charming.
B
Potentially. Yes. And as the improv gang goes. But this is. There was a sitcom where the guy was a murderer and he's really hot.
A
Jeffrey Dahmer.
B
No, he's a modern man playing the part. It's fictional. He's on Netflix. He's. He's religious. As an actor? No.
A
American Psycho?
B
No, no, it was Mind Hunter.
C
You.
B
Is it you?
A
You.
B
Oh, you.
A
Yeah, with Ben Padgley. Padgley. Ben or whatever his name is.
B
Get your man's name up. This is why we work together. We're mentally connected.
C
Yeah. That was seamless.
B
We're in sync.
A
Finish each other sentences all the time.
B
Badly. Yes.
A
We got there.
B
He has asked that he has no more sex scenes in any of his films or kissing scenes because he says it's disrespectful to his wife.
A
I'll Never forget that time I went for that McDonald's commercial.
B
I'll never forget. Sorry. Vogue. I say grow the up. But anyway, sorry.
A
No, no, no. I like, honestly, it brings it. I saw the commercial. I know who got it over me. It was Ashton B. I commercial. Oh, yeah. Basically, they were like, come. I've told you the story before. And they're like, come. And you have to, like, kiss. It's McDonald's. I obviously think I'm auditioning.
B
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
Because I was honestly. We were swallowing each other's heads. And I had a boyfriend at the time, and he was really embarrassed. He was really annoyed that I had to do that. Sorry.
B
It's the job. Like, what are you talking about?
A
Even in the.
B
There's a bit of action. Isn't that. That's why I like it.
A
I said to spent.
B
I said, is there not a kind of sexy. Is there no sex scene in the lion? How do the little lions come out then? When he had. When he had. When he hangs him off the cliff. Circle of life. How does he come out? Is it not a sex scene? It's implied. Fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I've obviously joined the dots and put something else in the middle. I'm pretty sure I saw two lines riding anyway. Go on.
A
That might have been a different tab you had opened, but. Yeah.
B
How dare you. You don't know what I'm going.
A
She does have. She has the dark. We. Guys, she's got the dark web. I remember what she said about that horse that time.
B
That was a moral issue. I said the horse would rather be eaten than ridden. And. And I had a lot of support online.
C
It's a thought exercise.
B
It was a philosophical conundrum.
A
Would you rather eat the horse or ride the horse? Was that it? Yeah.
B
And I said I. No. Yeah, fine. Look, I'm.
A
I'm.
B
Stick to my guns. I said I ride it. And that was a kindness to the horse.
A
I think I was, too. Now that you say it like that. I feel like I've moved on in life in the years that we said it before. And I don't want to eat the horse. I'd feel bad. I love horses. They're very gentle souls. And I would be a gentle lover.
B
Well, I'll tell you, after spending Valentine's Day on my own, I'm fully willing to ride the horse.
A
Even if we're not gonna kill him. You're just gonna.
B
No, we don't need to get into the nitty gritty. There's no need anyway. Wuthering Heights, like, game changer. Stunning.
A
Loved it.
B
Everyone giving out about us. Cop on. We know it's not the original Wuthering. You love us. I'd go again now I'm not here. I'm back in Dublin for shows. But I. I will. If I was here, I would go.
A
I do you know which one. As you like. Would you like to come to Wuthering Heights this weekend?
B
I'd love to. I can't make it. Thank you so much for understanding that. I. Welcome. And I'll tell you this, and I'll tell you no more. And you're both going to laugh at me now because obviously I. I kind of had a bit of a instant with the wicked thing. I didn't look at my watch. It flew in.
A
How long is it actually? I haven't heard that.
C
45 minutes.
B
It's high 20.
A
How long is the movie? I can't go to a movie if it's more than two hours. I physically can't do it. I have to wait till it comes on Sky Store.
B
I honest to God and I of the attention span of a Tic Tac. I did not look at my watch once.
C
2 hours, 16 minutes.
B
That's a lot for me. And I wasn't even on the Aderall. That's it for this week. Thank you so much for listening. I've been Drama McNally. She's been Vogue Williams. He's been Joe Ashywell. Like and subscribe. We're also on YouTube, by the way. Way.
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This has been a global player, original production.
Date: February 20, 2026
Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Special Guest/Producer: Joe Ashwell
In this lively and candid episode, Vogue and Joanne share hilarious anecdotes and sharp observations while covering three main topics: recent awkward encounters after shows, the news that Vogue is to be Grand Marshal at Dublin's St Patrick's Day parade, and an impassioned review of Emerald Fennell’s buzzy new adaptation of Wuthering Heights. The episode is peppered with their signature honest, self-deprecating banter and sidelong takes on Valentine’s Day, family quirks, and pop culture detours.
Joanne’s Rave Review: Fresh from seeing the new Wuthering Heights adaptation directed by Emerald Fennell, Joanne is blown away:
"The second it started I was like, I am so into this. It is epic. The soundtrack is stunning... I left aroused and sad."' – Joanne, 33:33/33:50
Chemistry and Costumes: The hosts gush over the intensity between Jacob Elordi and Margot Robbie, raving about the “fingering” scenes, the longing, and the costumes.
Classics Critique: They lampoon gatekeeper fans bothered by deviations from Emily Brontë’s novel, dismissing critics:
"People are snobs… She was completely ignored when she was alive and now everyone's worshiping at her altar." – Joanne, 36:03
Romance vs. Reality: Thoughtful discussion surfaces about the differences between early-relationship love (“I want to ride you all day, all night...”) and the comfortable affection of long-term couples. Vogue reflects, “We can't anymore because we're married for so long. It's not ever gonna be like that again” (35:05).
Per their brand, Joanne and Vogue are brutally honest, irreverent, and always funny. Their banter moves effortlessly through pop culture, confessional slices of life, and Irish humor, culminating in real affection beneath the roasting. If you love messy honesty and the feeling of eavesdropping on two very sharp friends, this episode offers it in spades—with a side of earnest celebration for big career moments, and a pinch of unexpected emotion stirred in.