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Ep. 78 - The Donner Party Tragedy

My Victorian Nightmare

Mon Jan 19 2026

Summary

Podcast Summary: My Victorian Nightmare

Host: Genevieve Manion
Episode: 78 – The Donner Party Tragedy
Date: January 19, 2026

Overview

In this haunting, deeply-researched episode, Genevieve Manion explores the infamous Donner Party tragedy. She skillfully weaves the grim story of the 1846-47 wagon train disaster into the broader tapestry of Victorian-era obsessions with death, the supernatural, and the limits of human endurance. The episode is rich with anecdotes, direct quotes, and Genevieve's signature darkly comforting tone.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Victorian Era Fascinations & Podcast Introduction

Genevieve opens with reflections on Victorian obsessions with death, spiritualism, and the comforting allure of dark history.
- “There’s just something especially intriguing, creepy, and oddly comforting about horror and mayhem from the 19th century.” (01:20)
The host provides supportive, light-hearted musings for listeners feeling overwhelmed by daily life, emphasizing self-compassion (01:25).

2. "With Their Own Eyes": Wesley Family Haunting

A recurring segment shares the supernatural experiences of the tormented Wesley family, featuring poltergeist-like occurrences:
- Strange knocks, crashing sounds, terrified family dog, and the psychological toll of continuous hauntings (06:07–07:47).
- Memorable quote:
  
  “He used to bark and leap and snap... but after two or three days he would simply tremble and creep away before the noise began, and by this the family knew it was at hand.” (06:57)

3. Victorian Spiritualism & Mediums

Genevieve reads from a Victorian spirit communication via a medium, weaving it into her own reflections on energy and psychic connections:
- “Could you with your spiritual eyes behold this atmosphere? You would find an infinite number of electric ramifications... They are shooting north and south and east and west.” (09:00)
She humorously recounts her own “psychic hunches,” blending personal anecdotes with era-appropriate beliefs (10:31).

4. Portrait of Fraudulent Medium: Eva Carrière

"The Naked Medium" section highlights the scandalous practices of fraudulent medium Eva Carrière (born Martha Béraud):
- Carrière’s over-the-top ectoplasm productions, use of cutout faces, hired accomplices, and even public nude séance performances (12:38–15:22).
- Standout details:
  - Harry Houdini attending and denouncing her as “a complete fraud.” (14:17)
  - Spirit photography described as “simply preposterous” (12:17).
- Reputation as a “pornographic, perverse, and neurotic” embarrassment to the spiritualist community (15:10).

5. The Donner Party: Historical Background

Genevieve transitions to the main story:
- Background on the westward expansion, motivations for heading to California, and misconceptions held by the emigrants (16:57–18:00).
- Highlights that the party was relatively well-off, not desperate or unprepared as often imagined.

6. Fatal Decisions & Leadership

Late start (May 12) and choosing the unvetted “Hastings Cutoff” route by Lansford Hastings—a route he had never traveled himself (19:20).
Recounts repeated warnings from experienced travelers, including James Clyman at Fort Laramie, which were ignored (21:04–22:09).
Misguided confidence in shortcuts and misguided trust in dubious guides are emphasized as tragic turning points.

7. The Ordeal Begins: Crossing Desert & Mountains

Exhaustion, left-behind wagons, dwindling morale as party attempts to cross the Wasatch Mountains and Great Salt Lake Desert; journey lengthened by a month and a half (23:22–24:20).
Supplies run perilously low; party members sent ahead for help (24:23).

8. The Descent into Tragedy

A Calm Before The Horror

Genevieve invites listeners to “pause and breathe” amid the chaos, underscoring the contrast between natural beauty and upcoming disaster (25:19–25:44).

Internal Turmoil and Violence

Infighting erupts; James Reed fatally stabs John Snyder—Reed is banished, which ironically saves his life (25:44–28:30).

The Deadly Trap

At Sutter’s Fort, the party receives insufficient aid but must press on. Critical, fateful rest day delays their mountain crossing, so they’re trapped by a massive blizzard (30:16).
- Key image:
  “Five feet of snow—that is up to my neck—quickly covered the whole mountain. Snowdrifts were as high as 20 feet. 81 people were literally buried in the snow.” (30:16)

9. Starvation, Cannibalism, and Survival

Final food supplies (oxen) exhausted; failed escape attempts; children and families separated by snowdrifts (31:23).
From the Diary of Patrick Breen:
- “Snow higher than the shanty. Must be 13 ft deep. Don't know how to get wood this morning. It is dreadful to look at.” (31:23)
Party “Forlorn Hope” sets out; some die, others turn to eating the dead, including two Native American guides who were murdered for food—an often-overlooked but searing detail (33:14).
Rescue parties struggle to reach survivors; horror and deaths continue even during rescue (34:57–38:48).

10. Rescue and Aftermath

Survivors likened to “monstrous, flesh addicted zombies” in sensational news reports; deep stigma follows those who lived (39:16).
- Chilling survivor report:
  
  “A woman crawling up out of a hole in the snow, kind of like coming out of a gopher hole... asked, ‘Are you men from California or do you come from heaven?’” (34:57)
Survivors describe eating mice, pine bark, and engaging in cannibalism out of utter desperation (35:46).
Final rescue leaves just 48 of 87 alive. The last survivor, Louis Keseberg, is vilified as a murderer and cannibal but his story is likely distorted (39:12–39:48).
Authorities burn down the camp to erase the “public relations disaster” (39:50).

11. Reflections on Bravery and Humanity

Genevieve closes by highlighting acts of remarkable courage by survivors like James Reed, William Eddy, Mary Ann Graves, and, possibly, Keseberg (41:16–45:14).
- Quote:
  
  “It is actually amazing to me that 48 people survived this at all.” (39:16)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Spiritual Connectedness:
- "I truly believe that there is an energetic connection between all of us that enables us to share energy with one another across time and space." (11:33)
On Psychic Family Bonds:
- "Babies, I always know when someone in the family is expecting. And just as I expected, they came in, we sat down and they told me I am to be an aunt to a punk rock baby in about five months." (11:33)
On the Isolation of the Children:
- “Oh, it was painfully quiet some days in those great mountains... the children had lost all inclination to play.” (Eliza Donner memoir, 32:23)
On the Scene at the Lake:
- “I saw two bodies entire, except the abdomens had been cut open and entrails extracted... flesh had been evaporated by exposure to dry atmosphere and presented the appearance of mummies, human skeletons in every variety of mutilation.” (Edwin Bryant, 39:50)

Important Segments & Timestamps

[01:01] – Introduction and reflections on Victorian horror
[05:45] – “With Their Own Eyes”: Wesley family poltergeist account
[08:13] – Seance Room: Victorian spirit communication & personal anecdotes
[11:59] – Marshmallow fluff interlude / preview of episode’s dark turn
[12:32] – The Naked Medium: Eva Carrière’s fraudulent séances
[16:57] – Introduction to the Donner Party and their fateful mistakes
[19:20] – Choosing the Hastings Cutoff and ignoring warnings
[23:22] – The trek through mountains and deserts turns deadly
[25:43] – Listener immersion exercise: Pausing before witnessing tragedy
[25:44] – Internal party conflict and banishment of James Reed
[30:16] – The party is trapped by a catastrophic snowstorm
[31:23] – Starvation, cannibalism, and the Forlorn Hope party
[34:57] – Rescue missions, survivor stigma, and the aftermath
[39:12] – Dismal state of final survivors, clean-up, and erasure of evidence
[41:16] – Reflection on cases of extraordinary heroism

Tone & Language

Genevieve’s narration is compassionate, gently macabre, and detailed, with flashes of dark humor and empathy for her subjects. She strikes a balance between historical accuracy and emotional resonance, never sensationalizing but never shying away from horror.

Summary Takeaway

Ep. 78 is a chilling, empathetic retelling of the Donner Party’s suffering, illuminating Victorian American attitudes about community, misadventure, and the limits of human endurance. Genevieve’s connection to the emotional realities—whether the Wesley hauntings, spiritualist hoaxes, or the frozen hell of Donner Lake—pulls listeners close to the ghosts of the past, making history both tangible and hauntingly relevant.

For further resources, original references, and gruesome spirit photography, visit the show notes at myvictoriannightmare.com.

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Transcript

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Genevieve Manion (1:01)

Hello and welcome to My Victorian Nightmare. I'm your host Genevieve Manion, and I'm here to talk about mysterious deaths, morbid fascinations, disturbing stories, and otherwise spooky events from the Victorian era. Because to me there's just something especially.

Genevieve Manion's Co-host or Alternate Voice (1:20)

Intriguing, creepy, and oddly comforting about horror.

Genevieve Manion (1:25)

And mayhem from the 19th century. So listener discretion is advised. Hello friends and welcome to this, my 78th episode. I hope that you are not beating yourself up for not being able to check everything off your to do list lists lately. I really hope that you are all giving yourselves some considerable grace for procrastinating, leaving those clothes on the chair of all the things attacking your sweet psyche at the moment, don't join in, have a few gummy bears and leave the laundry till tomorrow. Okay, let's race through Haunted Housekeeping because I have some truly awful things that.

Genevieve Manion's Co-host or Alternate Voice (2:17)

I simply cannot wait to share with you.

Genevieve Manion (2:20)

First, I have a special announcement. Everyone that subscribes to the show now has exclusive access to the 13 episodes of Dark Poetry. A while back I created this podcast which I love. It's all of my favorite dark poetry from the 19th century read in my most chocolatey, velvety podcast voice.

Genevieve Manion's Co-host or Alternate Voice (2:40)

But I ran out of time in my life to continue creating it, but.

Genevieve Manion (25:44)

Right now for everybody. Just wanted to check in. I know we usually make these trips to somewhere terrible and we will be watching something terrible pretty soon. But I made sure we got here a little early so we could just take the opportunity to breathe in some of the freshest air in history. Ah, that's the stuff. It's so peaceful, isn't it? And don't worry, I'm not like gearing up for a jump scare or anything while we're here. Just enjoying the view. I know sometimes I need a little reminder to stop, take a look around at what's going right, what's peaceful, what's beautiful. When things seem to be coming undone, I know how important it is to remind myself that no matter what horrors may come or are happening at the time, same very moment, these beautiful things, places and people are all happening at the same time. Thank you for sharing this peaceful little moment with me. Okay, just make sure to stand extra still. Stay tucked back because the Donner party is approaching. They're tired, angry again. They should have arrived at their destination by now. And they have at least 400 miles left to go to get to California. Here, stay tucked back. We don't want them to see us. I'll explain what's happening. All right. That sound is two wagons getting entangled on the rocks over there. And now a man named John Snyder is violently whipping his oxen. Even though there's nothing they can clearly do, the wagons are entangled. James Reed is yelling at him to see. Stop. He's hurting them and they're not moving. He's not stopping. Reed is now pulling out a knife. Oh, God. He just stabbed John in the stomach. Oh, God. Okay, other folks down the line are running up here. Let's go back. Go back into the brush. It's about to get really ugly though. Not as ugly as what we just saw. A couple guys let James have it with a couple of blows to the face, but they aren't going to kill him, although that's what some of them really want to do. The party is going to vote to banish Reid, send him off. His own family decided to stay with the party. Harsh, but what else could they do? It was believed that Reid wouldn't survive wherever he would be going to all alone. There were native tribes that only stayed away from the wagon train because of the large numbers of folk with guns and without any provisions or anything at all. It was likely that he'd be a goner in no time.

Genevieve Manion (31:23)

And spread out a bit. They were about a mile away down the mountain, but still just as much snowbound. Families decided to kill the last of their oxen for food. Some folks desperately tried to make it through the snow to the other side of the mountain. But when get stuck in the snowdrifts and were forced to turn back, the weeks turned into months. It was now the middle of winter at the top of a mountain. A man named patrick breen kept the only known diary of the horror that unfolded. His diary says, Wednesday, 13th, January, 1847. Snowing fast. Snow higher than the shanty. Must be 13ft deep. Don't know how to get wood this morning. It is dreadful to look at. Thursday, January 26, 1847. Provisions getting very scant, people getting weak, living on short allowances of hides. There were a great number of children in the party and one of them that actually survived, Eliza donner wrote later in a memoir. Oh, it was painfully quiet some days in those great mountains and lonesome uncle upon the snow. The pines had a whispering, homesick murmur, and we children had lost all inclination to play. End quote. Oh, I can only imagine how long and quiet those days must have been. Eventually, 15 of the strongest people in the party made makeshift snowshoes and decided to cross the mountains to return to sutter's fort. They took the two native guides with them, and they had the wherewithal to name this party of last resort. They called it the forlorn hope. Oh, with frostbitten, bleeding feet in the blinding snow, they set off, and after not too long, they began to succumb to the elements. Two people died, and for the first time, the party openly discussed cannibalizing those who passed away for survival. After the Death of a third person. They decided it was time. They stripped his bones and ate his frozen flesh raw. The guides, Louis and Salvador refused, refused even though they were also dying of hunger. One of the party of forlorn hope murdered them both to eat their bodies to keep the rest of the group alive. All of this is devastating, but this is perhaps the most devastating event of all in the story to me. In most stories written about the tragedy, this detail is often left out. But a historian in 1995 named Joseph King used records at Mission San Jose to identify these men who were at best mentioned as a footnote in previous retellings of the history. Seven of the 15 members of the party made it back alive to Sutter's fort. They told him that they needed a rescue party. News quickly spread of the situation, and folks as far as San Francisco heard about the situation. A number of folks who heard what happened also happened to be some of.

Genevieve Manion (34:57)

And despite what the Donner party did to him, he chose to lead the rescue teams to find them. He led fundraising efforts to convince enough folks to join him on the dangerous mission and pay for supplies. Supplies. Seven folks had already left from Sutter's Fort, and by the time they reached the donner party camps, 13 people there had died, and the remaining people were still under 15ft of snow and barely alive themselves. The first thing that survivors saw was just plumes of smoke coming out of rudimentary chimneys under the snow. And as was claimed by a rescuer, quote, a woman crawling up out of a hole in the snow, kind of like coming out of a gopher hole, end quote. They said this woman, half delirious, asked, are you men from California or do you come from heaven? All the men could really do was deliver food to most of the survivors. They couldn't get most of them out of the camps, as most of them could barely walk even if they tried. Even with a rescue team, they still had to make the trek back down the mountain with people who could barely move. They started with the ones who had the most strength and ability to move. But more folks died along the rescue route, which is so painful a fact like help came, but it was just too late. My lord. While the seven men led seven people away. Of the 60 or so still living people, folks then resorted to cannibalism as there wasn't enough food left for all of them. And it continued as more and more folks perished, waiting to be saved. Eliza Donner said in her memoir, quote, the little field mice that had crept into the camp were caught, then used to ease the pangs of hunger. Even the bark and twigs of pine were chewed in the vain effort to soothe the gnawings which made one cry for bread and meat. It was now February and Eliza wrote that it wasn't until mothers had watched their children eat the very last of the food the first relief party had left them days ago. And until wolves had found the snowed over graves that they dug, dug for the dead. She wrote. Perhaps God sent the wolves to show Mrs. Murphy and also Mrs. Graves where to get sustenance for their dependent little ones. Was it culpable or cannibalistic to seek and use the only life saving means left them? End quote. It wasn't until several weeks later that the other rescue party arrived, led by James Reed himself. There were 17 people in his rescue party and 17 more people were led out of the camp. James led his family out along with about 10 others, including most of the Donner family. The Donner family camp, which was still a bit of a ways off, was the worst of all, surrounded in frozen bodies, stripped mostly of their flesh. Two weeks later, more rescuers arrived and evacuated out almost everyone. God, imagine being one of the last. There were still a few people left in the camp, some of whom refused to leave because they believed the trip out of the camps would kill them. George Donner was too sick to leave with the first few rescue teams, and even though his wife still had some strength, she had refused to leave without him. She watched her own children get rescued first and stayed with George. They both did not survive. It was assumed that there may be no one left when the last rescue party approached the camp, which was now littered with bodies, bones, even heads that were separated from the bodies in the snow. They found one last survivor, a man named Lewis Kesberg, who likely went a bit crazy. He had gathered as many of the Donner family's possessions as he could, claiming they were his and that he wanted them brought out.

Genevieve Manion (39:16)

To me that 48 people survived this at all. Again, there were 87 original members. They survived, survived months with virtually no food under mountains of snow. Oh, it's just so unbelievable to think about what these people endured. When word of the horror and what was left up at the lake reached California, a military detachment was sent by General Stephen Kearney to clean up the lake where all of this transpired and remove what was left of the bodies. The folks sent to do this task were understandably horrified by what they saw. When the mountain had thawed, A writer accompanied the military named Edwin Bryant, and this is what he said of what they came upon as they approached the camp near the principal lake cabin. I saw two bodies entire, except the abdomens had been cut open and entrails extracted. Their flesh had been either wasted by famine or evaporated by exposure to dry atmosphere and presented the appearance of mummies, human skeletons, in short, in every variety, variety of mutilation. A more appalling spectacle I never witnessed. End quote. The soldiers collected what was left of the bodies, not to return them to families, but to pile them in a hole that they dug in one of the makeshift cabins. They then set the whole thing on fire. The orders were not to take care of what or who was there. No reverence. The orders were to erase everything. The tragedy was a terrible PR situation for California and for the very lucrative emigration industry. The industry wanted this situation erased quickly before other folks could make their way to the scene and write about what they saw. And the fact that no one did make it there apart from these soldiers and this writer didn't stop people from writing entirely fictional accounts of what happened there that were claimed to have been survivor stories or stories from rescuers. The California Star newspaper published an article that claimed a rescuer said, quote, a more shocking scene cannot be imagined than what was witnessed by the party of men who went to the relief of the unfortunate emigrants in the California mountains. A woman sat by the side of the body of her dead husband, cutting out his tongue, the heart she had already taken out, broiled and eaten. The survivors were often written about like monstrous, flesh addicted zombies. A tragedy like this was never heard of before by many people and the idea of cannibalism wasn't even in their imaginations as something anyone could ever resort to. A line in that newspaper also read, quote, so changed had the emigrants become that when the rescuing party arrived arrived with food. Some of them cast it aside and seemed to prefer the putrid human flesh that still remained. The last survivor, Louis Kesberg, was smeared most of all. One of the rescuers was paid to write an expose of exactly what they found, and this man just exaggerated as if he needed to, and also flat out lied. He said that he discovered Kesberg lying down amid the human human bones and beside him a large pan full of fresh liver and lungs. And he heavily implied that he had murdered Eliza Donner's mother, Tamsin Donner, just to eat her. This man had a very hard time finding anywhere to live. He lived the rest of his life in poverty. James Reed, however, who was banished and then returned to save people, struck it rich in the gold rush one year later later this story was such a horrific one, but I wanted to end on a few of the astounding acts of bravery that some of the party exhibited. Apart from James Reed, who returned to save the very folks who nearly murdered him. A man named William Eddy, one of the first people to reach Sutter's Fort to tell them to send help despite his being nearly dead himself, returned almost immediately to rescue the remaining stranded members of the party. He even made numerous trips, despite his terribly frostbitten feat to save others, and despite losing every member of his own family himself. Mary Ann Graves, a teenager whose parents died, ensured the survival of all of her younger siblings. She dug through the mountains of snow to gather fuel despite her own starvation and illness. And although his history was buried in smears and distortion, it is believed that Louis Kesberg, the very last survivor, was actually offered the ability to leave sooner. But he stayed to look after a woman who would not have survived. She attempted to leave the camp. Sadly, she died in the camp and he was the only one left. He didn't want to leave her to die alone, and she didn't, making him no less a hero. If you enjoyed this podcast and would like to hear more, please rate the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Leave me comments because I love them so much and join the fan coven to directly support my show. Listen ad free and for even more creepy and witchy content. Until next time, be kind to yourselves and I will see you in your nightmares.