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Thirty years ago, a team of scientists were trying to understand why mammals have such different lifespans. Mice live for around two years and dogs for 12. Elephants can pass 60 years, and some whales live up to 90. Boiling down all of the details of their studies, they discovered that no matter how many years each animal lived, each lived for about 1 billion heartbeats. Humans, thanks to modern medicine, have managed to extend our life expectancy to around 2 billion heartbeats and have continued our quest to lengthen it further through various diets, exercise routines, and fostering healthy relationships. And yet, despite the never ending odyssey to tack years onto our existence here on Earth, the meaning of life is not measured in years or in heartbeats. We remember people not for the number of candles they blow out on their final birthday cake, but rather for the difference they made, the people they helped, the joy that followed them, and the ideas they leave behind. None of us know how much time we'll get here. A life well lived can certainly be long, but all too often it can be cut short. Regardless, one thing is for certain, you sure as hell don't need a billion heartbeats to make a difference. That people will remember and honor long after your heart goes still. Welcome to National Park After Dark.
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I really liked that intro. I never knew that 1 billion heartbeats.
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I know, it's like, it kind of feels like it's programmed to stop around, then maybe slow down, slow down, take it easy.
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That's why you need a low resting heart rate.
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Yeah, I know. Well, it's so funny because I've been trying to use my aura ring a little bit more. I got it just to track my cycles, like natural cycles and stuff. And it does a bunch of other stuff, like with stress and, you know, steps and all that other stuff. And I've been trying to keep track of my heart, like my resting heart rate and stuff. And I used to do it at work. I used to put the SpO2 monitor on my finger and be like, what's my heart rate at?
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Oh, yeah, I used to do that too.
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And then be like, calm down, it's okay. You're just stressed.
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All is well.
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All is well. What's your resting heart rate? It hovers around 60.
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Okay, that's very good.
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Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to get my cardio better, get on the peloton a little more. But it's a struggle. Yeah. So welcome everyone, to National Park After Dark. I'm going to be telling you a story today, and my name is Danielle.
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I'm Cassie. I'm going to Be listening to the story. Yeah.
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Getting comfy. It's so funny. The other day I looked at. I looked at one of the comments on Patreon because we posted like a video version of the episode on there, and somebody was like, I love how just throughout this episode, Cassie is getting comfier and comfier. Like your blanket just kept rising. I'm kidding. Up to your chin. By the.
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I start off like normal, just hanging out, and by the end of it.
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I'm like, you're a cocoon. Yeah. You're not even here. Yeah. Well, today I have a really interesting story about somebody that I first learned about when we were in Rocky Mountain national park, actually earlier this year. But before we get into all of that, this is the top of October. It's the first October release. So happy fall season officially, everybody. And I know it's like we just started spooky season in fall and autumn. And I'm about to talk to you about the holidays, but it's for a good reason.
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It comes up quick.
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It does. It sneaks up on you. And I'm trying to get ahead of it this year because last year we did this, but it was kind of late and it wasn't as good it could have been. So this year we're going to try and do something different. We're putting together an outsider's gift guide. And that means we want to put together. It's nothing fancy. It's just going to be kind of a condensed list of small businesses that are owned and operated by National Park After Dark listeners. And we're going to send it out to our email subscribers as a way of supporting our community as the holidays approach. And we just have so many listeners that are not only so talented with, you know, creating tangible, physical things, whether it be art or, I don't know, just unique pieces, but also that have really cool companies because we all know you don't have to give a physical gift. You can give an experience or a service. And we have so many listeners who just are so talented and offer so many awesome things that we get to hear about because they'll email us about it. And we want to make sure that everybody else has the opportunity to not only know about those cool things, but also support them during the holiday season, if you so choose.
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Yeah. And I feel like our outsider and Pad community has supported us so much throughout the years that it's a fun way to kind of give back to you guys to help support your businesses and to connect our community all together. So it's a fun, more local way to shop and also probably a lot more unique because we're hoping to highlight some of you that have things that maybe people don't even know exist yet.
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Right. So if you want to be two things, if you want to be considered to be included in the gift guide, and we say considered not because, like, we're judging you or anything, but because we expect the response to be, if it's anything like last year, really overwhelming. We just. We're only two girls. Okay. And we don't.
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You can only put so much. But we'll try to include as much as we can.
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Yeah. And we'll put it through into like, sections kind of to make it a little more easy to read and things like that. But either way. Yeah. If you want to be considered to be included, please write to Assistant P A D Podcast. Com. That's kind of our side email we use for things like this.
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Yeah. And we'll put a link. We'll put that in our show description too.
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So you can just click.
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Click it.
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Yep. And then put a gift guide in the subject line and on the reverse of that. If you want to receive this gift guide, sign up for our email. If you go onto our website, there's a pop up right away that asks if you want to subscribe. We literally don't spam because we don't have the time.
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We're just two girls.
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We're just two girls. We do a newsletter once a month that we put together. And with the exception of this gift guide, this will come out, if all goes well, at the very beginning of November so that you have time to go through it and place orders and things like that for December. So, yeah, that's what we're cooking up on the side. So if you're interested in that, now's the time. And we're accepting submissions until like the third week of October. So you have a couple weeks.
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Yeah. So if you're hearing this late, it might not be too late for you.
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Right. But if you're hearing it in November.
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Sorry, sorry.
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There's always next year. Okay, well, moving on again, we mentioned Spooky season and I think especially with the tone of a lot of our episodes and kind of what we're all about, people are like, so amped to hear spooky and scary and haunted things for the entire month of October. But we're. I'm not going to give that to you today and I apologize. However, there's a good reason for it. It is kind of the Tail end of Hispanic Heritage Month. And because of that, I wanted to highlight a story about a Hispanic man in the National Park Service that did so much. Like, after this episode, you're gonna feel really bad about yourself, I think, because you're gonna be like, how did this person do so much in such little time? It's so impressive.
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Yeah.
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Because I certainly haven't done. Learning about his story made me kind of inspired to do a little more. So I'm like, I'm going to put together a gift guide. So there's that. And, yeah, I did hear. I learned about this originally when we went to. God, why can't I think of it? When we went to Rocky Mountain national park, it was a book in the visitor center, and I took a picture of it. I'm like, I'm coming back for you. Oh, cool.
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I love finding stories like that.
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Yeah. All right, so let's get going. In February of 1936, four cars found themselves stuck in the Rio Grande River. There is no bridge between West Texas and Buquia in Mexico, so the cars had tried and ultimately failed to drive through a shallow section of the waterway. Around 20 men, representatives from both the United States and Mexico, climbed out of the trapped vehicles. They had convened to discuss the creation of parks along and across the shared international boundary. The catalyst for this trip had come the year before, when President Franklin Roosevelt authorized the creation of Big Bend national park in Texas, just north of the river crossing that they were stranded in. While the designation was still a formality, it entrusted the National Park Service with a vast landscape, from the towering Chisos Mountains to the sprawling Chihuahuan Desert and dramatic canyons carved by the Rio Grande. But unlike many of the earliest national parks, Big Bend was not granted the status for scenic qualities alone. The Park Service first sent a biologist to survey the area, in part to document the wildlife that lived there, which was pretty standard, which included mountain lions, ringtails, and javelinas, known as picaris, for those who. They're like the. They look like wild pigs kind of. Okay, okay.
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Yeah.
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But also to judge if the proposed park boundaries could provide enough habitat for those same animals to thrive in. And it was with that biologist findings and endorsement that Big Bend State park became a national park. The international commission, who was eventually towed out of the river by Mexican ranchers on horseback, was meeting to discuss taking the designation up a notch, how international parks might extend those protections already in place even further. So it's like, started as a protected space at the state park, it got bumped up to a national park, and now they're like, let's see if we can make this international. Because it. They wanted to expand across borders.
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Okay, so for clarification, you found this book in Rocky Mountain national park, but the story is about Big Ben National Park.
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No, it's right. Yes. We're talking about Big Bend right now. In this particular circumstance. This story is actually. I know we usually centered this around a particular public land, specifically whether it be a national park or national forest. This is actually about a individual that did a lot for the National Park Service in general.
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Okay, so we're going to be like.
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Hopping around to national parks.
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Gotcha.
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For the National Park Service, this was a radically new way of doing business and a dramatic departure from how they used to do things. It was the start of a shift towards science driven management and towards the agency that we all know and love and respect today. Since its founding in 1916, park rangers have killed coyotes, mountain lions, and even pelicans to protect, protect game animals. Now it seemed like all animals were being considered, at the very least, fairly. And if you asked leaders in the Park Service at the time, the people with power and the people with influence, who, who we have to thank for this change, they'd all answer with one name, George Melendez Wright. So that is who we are going to be speaking about today.
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Interesting.
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We love a short king.
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Yes, we do. These trips, to which he referred to as wilderness elixirs, were much needed literal breaths of fresh air from his busy schedule in his Washington office. And this was not the only trip of its kind for him. That year he made several to the Everglades, surveying proposed park boundaries by blimp and serving as the personal guide to the secretary of the Interior, who immediately became a fan of George's. He seemed right at home with diplomats and dignitaries just as much as he was with ranchers and old timers in rural America, one of the many, many reasons some believed he was well on his way to climbing the ladder all the way to the top, to someday become the director of the National Park Service. But Big Bend was not the only stop for the group on their route. After touring the region for a week, George hopped into a car with a few colleagues and headed west towards Tucson, some 500ish miles away. As George's car passed into New Mexico heading west on Highway 10, they reached the northern edge of the Chihuahuan Desert. Suddenly, an oncoming car veered into their lane. Its tire had blown out, causing it to jerk violently and without warning to the left, directly into George's vehicle. The crash was sudden and deadly. The teenage driver of the oncoming car died instantly, and so did the driver of George's car. George sustained massive injuries. And despite being pulled from the wreckage by his surviving friends, it was too late. George Wright was dead at 31 years old. But as we've said before, it isn't about how one dies, but how they live. So let's rewind the tape 20 years. In 1915, a World Fair was opening in San Francisco. Hosted to celebrate the completion of the Panama Canal, it attracted displays of technological achievement like a transcontinental phone call and automobile races. It hosted presentations of sports, music and art, and featured two enormous replicas of national parks. There was an Old Faithful display which erupted every 20 minutes, and a scale model of the Grand Canyon, complete with a 30,000 square foot painting of the canyon itself, more than half the size of a football field. That's insane.
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That's huge.
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This is like a science fair on steroids. And I wonder. We've talked about World's Fairs before, especially with your episode. What was it on the tree?
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Yeah, the Centennial Tree in Sequoia.
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Do you think it was at this one?
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Where is this again?
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San Francisco?
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No, because they shipped this to. They shipped the Centennial tree to the east coast to prove that they existed. Oh, because people in the east didn't believe them.
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Okay. Right. Yes. That was a kind of a long time ago, that episode, but it was really good. And we talked at length about World's Fairs and, like, how cool they were and in one aspect, but also how morbid they were.
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Problematic. Yeah, they used to put like, people.
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People on display.
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Yeah, people on display. Like indigenous people, people of color. Like, they did a lot of really fucked up things as amusement at world Fairs, but they were also really interesting. They did have some interesting things. I don't think we should bring them back, but it is an interesting point of history.
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Yeah. This event was of great interest to George, who lived only eight blocks away from the fair. He was just 11 years old at the time. And he was already an avid naturalist. He'd been carefully observing the birds who visited a bird bath behind his home and kept a list of the species that he had seen. His great Aunt Cordelia had encouraged him to pursue his passion for biology, sending him out to explore nearby Lake Merced and the Golden Gate parks with a bird book in hand. By this time, Aunt Cordelia, who he called Auntie it was actually his great aunt, was George's only family and his primary caretaker, as both his parents had already passed away when he was a child. His father, John Wright, came from a successful family of steamship captains in San Francisco. His mother, Mercedes Melendez Ramirez, came from a prominent family in El Salvador. How the couple met is kind of a mystery. It's been a little bit lost to time. There's a couple of different theories. Maybe because Wright's shipping company brought coffee from El Salvador, or because Mercedes was sent to school in San Francisco, and that's maybe where they met. But regardless, by 1905, the two of them were married, had purchased a home in San Francisco and had three sons, with George being the middle child. It was, by all accounts, a wonderful home, full of both conversations and customs in both English and Spanish, with the whole family traveling between San Francisco and El Salvador often. But in 1906, George's mother passed away suddenly from acute appendicitis, and within a few years, his father was diagnosed with cancer. His father did what he could for his three boys, including enlisting the help of his widowed stepmother, Cordelia. He left his youngest son, Charles, in the care of family in El Salvador, dividing up his estate between his children, and passed away a few months later at the age of 56.
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Oh, that's heartbreaking.
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I mean, it's a lot.
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It's a lot of death.
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Yep. One after the other, George's oldest brother moved to El Salvador, leaving George and Auntie alone in their San Francisco home, despite their large age gap. So at this point in time, George is a child. I mean, he's barely 9 years old, and Cordelia was 72. So different ends of the spectrum here in life. Despite that, the two shared a really special bond and became constant companions. Beyond encouraging his passion for wildlife, Auntie taught him daily lessons until he started officially at school, which served as an early chance for his personality to really shine through. In high school, he founded the Audubon Society Club and served as its president at the age of 13. And by this time, he was already corresponding with the local University of California offices to organize field trips for his club. The Audubon Society.
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13.
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Yeah. Yep. He was active in the Boy Scouts, where he was tasked with teaching his fellow Scouts about plants and animals. And he excelled academically, which I don't think there's a surprise in that.
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Yeah.
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At 16 years old, he was accepted to the forestry program at UC Berkeley.
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At 16?
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Yeah. So I don't know if that's standard for the time or if he was like today that would. I know it's possible, but it's uncommon. I don't know if at the time that was more standard or not.
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Yeah. To leave school early and go to college or something.
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Yeah. But regardless, it's a huge accomplishment. And Auntie thrilled for him, bought a house near campus and moved with him at Berkeley. He joined a frat Delta upsilon, which would become the center of his social life. And this is just. It's not very important to the story, but I just thought it was really funny. So he and Auntie would host regular frat parties and she was beloved by his friends.
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Oh, I bet.
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Like a great aunt. Like a 70 something year old.
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It's almost like your grandma who's sitting on the couch, like drinking and smoking weed with all your friends. She is going to be accepted by everyone at that party.
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She's the house bunny. Yeah, Mom. Yeah. House, yes.
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Yes.
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House Bunny is the movie. I'm thinking.
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I know, but now I'm picturing Auntie in house bunny attire.
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Yep. As Anna Faris. Yes. Yeah. So she was like, kind of when you have a cool. I remember my senior year of college, our landlord, he had bought the house on Water street in Keene, New Hampshire. It was an old, like Victorian era house that had been a family home for generations and decades. And then he happened to buy the. The year we moved in, he had happened to buy it and he's like, I'm actually going to renovate this and rent this out to college kids. Because it was just a couple blocks off campus. And I remember because he had never been a landlord before and he was just some guy that was like, I just want to make some money. Like, he was the coolest. We would come over. I have pictures of Nata giving him an apple pie shot. And we're like, just like, he was just so chill and fun to be around. He was just like this older guy, just like, not in a creepy way or anything. He was just like a cool dude. And I just imagine Cordelia filling that same role and she was just always around for their house parties and just like hanging out with everyone. And one of the his friends, one of George's friends, wrote about her once, saying the old lady was charming and her philosophy on youth so much broader than the average parent. It was amazing. When I left to go dance, her remark was, I think you better let the butler get you a highball. I can see you haven't had any. And the girls don't want a stupid slow one to dance with. She's like, you got to loosen up.
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Get a drink, get a drink, party. You're being a stick in the mud.
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Yeah. She surely had the right idea is how he ended it. But it wasn't all cocktails and house parties. George was also developing as a student. As a forestry major, his coursework emphasized field observation and note taking. One of his professors, Joseph Grinnell, developed a methodical style of field notes that is still widely used today. And I had to look it up because I just got a book when we were in Glacier about.
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I was going to say, is he after Grinnell Glacier?
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Not of the same. The same, but kind of like this was Joseph Grinnell was right before the other Grinnell that we're thinking of. Okay, but still in like the wildlife conservation space. And that's kind of why it confused me. But George, who had been taking notes on the species he'd seen all of his life, was very quick to make a good impression with his professor and other mentors. During his summers, George set his sights beyond California and began to explore more and more of the American West. In the summer of 1922, he participated in a Sierra Club trip to the High Sierras, the largest trip the club had ever put on up until that point. He was one of 200 hikers that made the 270 mile trek, summoning Mount Whitney. Along the way, the enormous group was supplied by a train of 90 mules carrying, among many other things, 450 pounds of cheese and 2,000 pounds of ham. It's like so you were living off.
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Charcuterie boards, you know, they're no wrong.
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In the summer of 1924, he and some of his frat brothers set out on a 2,000mile road trip in Georgia's beat up Model T, which he nicknamed Peter. In just two months, they visited what is now Joshua Tree, Rocky Mountain, Yellowstone, Glacier and Crater Lake national parks in an incredible road trip summer vacay. And along the way they suffered 72 blown out tires. Why? Well, okay, so how do you go through 72 tires? Okay, this is the 20s and Model T's have these like tiny tires. Honestly, when you look back on pictures, some of them look like they have smaller. Like in. They have smaller tires than a lot of the bicycles we have now. And the roads were awful. I mean, you're talking.
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They must have been cheaper than to replace. If he had to replace 72 of.
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Them, he just got really good at changing tires. Imagine like 2,000 miles. It's like, can we get more than 50 miles without blowing a tire? But the troubles only fueled his sense of adventure and invigorated his love of the parks. In the summer of 1926, his growing knowledge of the outdoors presented him with an opportunity. His professor, Joseph Grinnell, recommended he join a scientific expedition to Alaska. One of the professor's former students, Joseph Dixon, was headed to what is now Denali national park to search for an elusive bird nest. Surf birds, a small shorebird often seen along the Pacific coast, fly inland to lay their eggs, which they knew about at the time, but no one had ever seen one of their nests in the wild. So they know they're exhibiting this behavior, but they. They can't track down where they're actually nesting. And Grinnell believed that George would be well suited for this particular search. So together, Dixon and George were to spend three months together in Denali, based out of a rustic patrol cabin in search of a surf bird nest. George's detailed field notes recorded sightings of many different species he had never seen before, including marmots, caribou, and Canada jays. And they also recorded that early on, Dixon suffered a strained ankle, leaving George out to set out on his own in search for these birds pretty much right off the bat. And while surveying by himself just 10 days into their trip, George's report reads, quote, a quick movement some five or six hundred feet away attracted my attention to a grayish bird that was sneaking hurriedly along. He was a surf bird in the nesting season. Better luck. Yet when I looked down, there were the eggs lying in a little depression. There were four of them, and they certainly looked too good to be true. So he rushes back to tell his partner, Dixon, about his find. And his first immediate thought was, he's kidding. Like, he's joking.
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Like you couldn't have found that.
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Yeah, it's like no one in the history of. Of naturalists looking for this bird have ever found this nest.
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It's like I just looked down.
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I just happened to. They were out stumble upon it. No ornithologist had ever found a surf bird nest in decades of searching, and he found it in 10 days. And sure enough, I mean, at first he was like, there's no way. I have to see this for myself. So he, like hobbles out there to take a look for himself. He hikes out and confirms, indeed, it was a surf bird nest. And in his writing and his own notebook, he says to Mr. George M. Wright then belongs the credit of finding the first nest of this species on May 28, 1926 at 4:00pm and when I read that, the first thing I thought of was Elle woods being like, what? Like it's hard.
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What? Like it's hard.
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She's like, all right, we're going to Yosemite.
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We're going to Yosemite Valley. George marveled at his new office on his first day. He wrote in his journal, the valley is sparkling, cool and clear, with an abundance of autumn coloring about the rim. There is 10 inches of snow, ever so white against the blue sky. And I can just imagine. I mean, my first experience in Yosemite Valley was with you. And I remember you saying before we got there, just kind of hyping it up and being like, you're, it's so magical and beautiful. And I had the advantage of at least seeing pictures of it before and kind of mentally prepping of what I was about to experience. And for him at this time in the 20s, you know, there's descriptions and, and paintings and maybe a few photos, but nothing could have prepared, I'm sure, an experience of getting into that valley for the first time and seeing that and being like, this is my life and I.
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B
Not knowing what you're going into. I know. I remember the first time I saw Yosemite on just pictures because I think it was on Instagram and someone had tagged it and I was like. Because I didn't grow up learning about national parks or anything like that. And I remember seeing it being like, where is that?
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A
What is that? I've never. I have to go there.
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B
Yeah, I have to go there. And it became a bucket list place for me. And actually when we were working at Banfield, I went there for the first time.
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A
Oh, I don't recall. It was my Cassie's on one of her trips.
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B
Yeah, I did travel a lot when we were at Banfield, but that was one of them. I was out in California and we, and we went.
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A
Well. Despite being just 23 years old, George brought a huge amount of experience to his role, which really excited his supervisors. The year before, the park had completed its first year round road into Yosemite Valley and had just opened the Ahwahnee Hotel, where guess who is now living Auntie. Auntie's like, course she would. And live there year round.
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B
It's like, she's like, the Ahwani would work great. Thank you.
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A
It just opened. It's brand new. It's like this beautiful.
- [34:40]
B
This will do. From frat house to the Owani.
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A
Look at her.
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B
She's living large. Yeah.
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A
I wrote in my notes, sometimes I'm like, when I'm first doing this, putting this together, I put my initial thoughts in here in case I don't have them in real time. I wrote, this lady is just L I V I n. She is. The increase in tourism that the Ahwahnee generated and that this year round road is now providing actually helped create George's position. And he quickly started giving talks for visitors at the Yosemite Museum Museum where he was based. And yet, almost as quickly as his dream had been realized, it nearly came undone. An administrative worker reviewing his hiring paperwork determined that George was too short to be a park ranger. What?
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B
Okay, how tall is he?
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A
5 4.
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B
5 4?
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A
He's taller than us.
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B
He is taller than us. I'm five two and a half. On a good day.
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A
You're not two and a half. You're five two for sure.
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B
You don't get to and three quarters.
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A
Sometimes I'm five three, and in pictures, I look a lot taller than you.
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B
That is not true.
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A
That's a fact. It's okay to be small.
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B
I don't mind being small, but that's how tall I am.
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A
Unless I grew.
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B
It's your hair.
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A
It is my hair. It's full of secrets. Well, at the time, all rangers were required to serve as law enforcement as well and to carry a gun. And while it was never stated on the application, this came with a height requirement and one that George failed to clear at just 5 foot 4 inches.
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B
What's the height requirement?
- [36:21]
A
I don't know. I don't know. I couldn't find that. But they were like, you're. They just kind of looked at him.
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B
And was like, no, no.
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A
Like, you're too short to ride this ride. Fortunately, his supervisors fought the decision. They even enlisted Horace Albright, the Assistant director of the National Park Service, to petition for an exception for him. In a persistent series of letters, Albright cited George's lengthy list of accomplishments and stated plainly, we must take no chances of losing this valuable man. And ultimately, he was permitted to stay.
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B
Good. That's a ridiculous requirement.
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A
Yeah, I hope that. I mean, I know for a fact that is no longer in existence, but I hope that this situation with George was the catalyst for that kind of squashed set. Yeah, yeah. If this hiccup had bothered George, he didn't seem to show it. He was making the most of his new life in Yosemite Valley. Each morning, he'd bring coffee to Auntie in her room at the Ahwahnee before getting out to work. He and his fellow naturalists gave talks to the thousands of visitors that came every year. And he also began to write articles for Yosemite Nature Notes, the official publication of the park's education division. These articles on natural history included the songs and calls of the mountain quail, a fungus that was killing the park's chokecherry plants, and the diet and decline of golden eagles in the park. He also made a ton of friends in the valley's tight knit community. He joined regular hikes with Enid Michaels, one of the first women naturalists in the Park Service, and her husband Charles. He befriended local artists, including Norwegian landscape painter Christian August Jorgensen and a young up and cominging photographer named Ansel Adams. But despite having all the success and kind of riding this high that is now his professional and personal life, by late 1928, his biggest supporter, Auntie, was in ailing health. At the age of 88, she had grown weak and suffered some health setbacks. George wrote of this time that he was always prepared for an emergency move. But on December 19, Auntie passed away in the Ahwahnee Hotel. The impact that she had on George's life was immeasurable. The independence that she fostered in him had helped him succeed everywhere he applied himself. And she was a fiercely independent woman for the time, the matriarch holding court at DU parties, which no doubt shaped George's rather progressive views of women in the National Park Service. But most of all, she was family. As he returned to work, his perspectives on wildlife management in the national parks began to take shape. He wrote about his dislike for several practices common in the National Park Service at the time. Many parks in the west advertised bear shows, which we've talked about, I mean, at length, in several different episodes, but TLDR version, they were essentially piles of trash dumped to attract bears for visitor viewing purposes, like a tourism type of show served as entertainment, which was, as we know, extremely problematic. Several other parks, including Yosemite, constructed makeshift zoos as well, corralling local wildlife for guaranteed displays, which we haven't talked about a lot, but was a thing.
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B
It's just crazy. Welcome to National Park. See our caged wildlife.
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A
And it's kind of like we make fun of people, especially historic accounts of people being like, when do you release the animals? Or when do you put them back? And we're like, they're wild animals, you stupid idiot. But then it's like, okay, with a history like this, where there's actual zoos within the national parks that employees have taken wild animals and put them in cages for, it's like, I can understand how that kind of gets a little confusing back in the day. So there is that. I'm not saying I mean, still use your critical thinking skills, but, you know, I'm trying to give some credit. Additionally, all parks were practicing predator control, using guns, traps and poison to indiscriminately kill mountain lions, wolves, coyotes and bears. And George viewed these practices not only as distasteful, but counter to the very mission of national parks, moves that were actively harmful to the landscape. The views were no doubt fostered by his mentors. For example, Joseph Grinnell was staunchly opposed to park zoos, but they were also likely shaped by a woman named Maria Labrado, also known as Totuya, or Foaming Waters. Librado visited Yosemite in July of 1929, the first time she had visited the valley in 80 years. A valley that she had once called home. During the Gold rush, a state militia known as the Mariposa Battalion was sent to Yosemite Valley to evict its native population. They burned villages and food supplies to force the relocation of indigenous people in order to allow miners to access the area. Chief Tenaya of the Ahwahneechee tribe mounted a resistance, but by 1851, they were defeated. Totuya, who was the granddaughter to Chief Tenaya, was one of the last people to flee Yosemite valley during the 1851 attacks. She returned in 1929 to see her former home collect acorns and to tell her story. And because she spoke Spanish, George was asked to be her interpreter. Photos of their meeting depict an in depth conversation, shared smiles, and show George listening closely. Her life and stories affirmed to him what had been ignored in park management. Up until that time, people had been living in and actively managing these so called untouched wilderness spaces for thousands of years. Up until that time, the National Park Service practiced what some historians have called facade management, protecting scenery and prioritizing visitor enjoyment without any interest in or understanding of the consequences that those choices had. George had been wrestling with the consequences of actions like predator control and bear feeding, and believed that successful park management would involve active efforts to undo those practices. He's like, how can we. I'm recognizing all the problems that these practices are having. How do we right these wrongs and how do we stop doing this and.
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B
How do we preserve the land in a better way that actually preserves it and is in. Because obviously what they're doing is harmful, even though that wasn't the intent.
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A
Yeah, and you know, starting to incorporate and integrate and acknowledge indigenous voices and knowledge and, you know, just kind of like this all encompassing revamp and re and pivoting how things are done at, you know, a larger level and not just in Yosemite, but I mean, of course he's based there, so it's kind of like that's, that's where his focus was at first. But he had larger plans. He believed that in an ideal world park should be to maintain the landscape in a primeval condition free of harmful human influence. He wrote in his journal, quote, recognition that there are wildlife programs is admission that unnatural man made conditions exist. Therefore there can be no logical objection to further inference by man to correct those conditions and restore the natural state. He started to formulate an idea. A multi year survey of wildlife problems across national parks in the West. He argued this would allow the National Park Service for the very first time to understand the issues wildlife are facing and do something about them. He wrote about this idea to his friend Joseph Dixon, the one who's like, how did you just find these birds in one hour? Years after their search for the surf bird, Dixon was now the head field naturalist for the Park Service. George laid out his plan for the survey, which Dixon eagerly supported. And the two began to slowly discuss the plan with more and more people. And it just goes to show, it's not always what you know, but who you know that really propel things. Because if he didn't have these connections, this may not have gone anywhere. Even if it was a brilliant idea and something that was going to change everything for the Park Service. Some expressed doubt that George could lead such an ambitious effort because, number one, it has never been done before. So it's unprecedented in that way. But he's just, he's 25 years old.
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B
And he's only 5 4.
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A
And he's 5 4, he's short. So how could he possibly.
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B
How could short people do anything well?
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A
In response to those concerns, the pair agreed that Dixon, with his additional years of experience, should be the face of the operation. And others worried that the National Park Service lacked the funds to finance the survey. Just, just point blank. But George, in response, said, okay, I'll pay for it then so he funded the entire operation, pulling money from his inheritance to create a private trust.
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B
Man with big pockets.
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A
Yeah. And such a passion for, like, what he believed in. It's like he works for the federal government and you would think that they would fund something like this. And he's like, well, if you can't, I think it should be done, so I'll pay for it.
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B
If you don't have the money, then I will use my own inheritance. That was supposed to be for my livelihood, for the cause.
- [45:36]
A
Yeah. It's like, explain to me what a teacher faces every single day.
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B
Yeah.
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A
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B
Why, what's wrong with me?
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A
You just need so many snacks all the time.
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B
You're not wrong.
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A
You lose your phone like every 15 to 20 minutes. Somehow in the car you're like, hold on, I have to check for my phone. Can you check my location?
- [49:16]
B
That happened one time for a duration of 30 minutes.
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A
Happens a lot. And also I just. Three years away from home is just too far, too long, I think.
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B
Right? Nothing's wrong with me.
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A
It's not you, not you as a person, it's me. It's not you, it's me. Right?
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B
That's what they keep telling me. And I just don't get it.
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A
So the wildlife survey would eventually visit 14 national parks. And in each park they sought to gather a broad perspective on the issues facing wildlife. They met with park superintendents to evaluate different park management actions and interviewed what they referred to as old timers in the area to understand how things used to be in whatever park park they were at and what changes they've noticed on the landscape. It was through these conversations that George and the team would identify issues in each park and begin to collect data. Which is just so like something that we see also we just saw. So we didn't mention but we just returned from a trip to Voyagers National Park.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Where we did a weekend with the Voyagers Wolf Project. And a lot of what we learned that weekend was just the. This collaborative approach that the project has with the residents that live in and around the park and are living and working and recreating with and trying to ranch among wolves and how different coexistence measures either do or don't work, or they just listen to the locals about their frustrations or their worries or whatever. And that is integrated into how they operate and how the project is run. And we see that over and over, not only with different, like, wildlife things, but even the park itself. We were talking to some people who work at the headquarters at Voyagers, and they were, you know, showing us some archival footage and materials about how when the park was established in 1975, like, some of the frustrations that the locals had with either selling their property or having different parcels of land dedicated to the park that now is no longer available for private use and it's not public. And just kind of the conversations that we kind of take for granted, like, well, of course you talk to the locals. Why wouldn't you? It's like, back here, back then, that was not something that was ever considered.
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B
Yeah. And I mean, even still today is a struggle throughout. So seeing it incorporated is actually big, huge steps that are being made to talk, because, I mean, especially when you are, of course, we're huge advocates for preserving land in national parks, but you. You have to. If it's impeding on someone's livelihood and it's taking away their land and it's interrupting where they live, they need to be, at a bare minimum, a part of the conversation.
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A
Yeah, exactly. Well, his biggest thing, I mean, of course, this is kind of centered on wildlife management, this whole project. So he's going into the records at different park headquarters throughout their trip to kind of get a better understanding of what they're doing in regards to wildlife management and predator control specifically. And at the Grand Canyon, he discovered records in the park headquarters that tracked the number of animals killed by the national park staff in that park since 1922. And it read, 293 coyotes, 75 wildcats, 19 fox, two mountain lions, and one wolf. And he knew immediately off the bat that this number was almost certainly an understatement. Since the creation of parks in 1916, rangers had been allowed to supplement their income by trapping and selling animal pelts. And the Park Service wasn't the only agency involved in predator control. The US Biological Survey, a predecessor to the Fish and Wildlife Service, had spent the previous 20 years targeting predators across public lands throughout the west, pioneering in particular the widespread use of poison bait traps. And this was kind of, to George, he viewed this as not only like it probably upset him at a fundamental level, but also he recognized that the absence of predators revealed that the parks were incomplete. He believed, and rightfully so, that these predators were indicators of a healthy environment and should be afforded the same protections the National Park Service gave to other species. Yet no matter how much George disagreed with a practice, he never reprimanded or chastised those he spoke to, like the rangers who would hop out of their car while driving him around to shoot a coyote running across the road. The wildlife team would eventually make recommendations on how to address these problems. But while in the field, George was simply there to observe and to listen.
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B
That would be so hard for me, and I feel like that's so hypocritical to be employed in a park to protect the area. And I know that there's a different view at this point in time, but you're there to protect these species in the land that lives here. And you are also privy to a lot of information that other people aren't, or say, just an average hunter who is out. You're privy to a lot of information of where these animals are and you're just allowed to, like, go off and own time and go exactly where you know that they are and wait for them and hunt them.
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A
Well, and not only allowed, encouraged. Yeah, it's like, we'll pay you. The government is not only employing you, but they're going to pay you for every predator pelt that you bring back. Like, so there's incentive as well.
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B
And especially in a time where you have to provide for your families and stuff, you're like, oh, this is great. I'm in the place I love these animals are at my, like, they're right here. They're right here.
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A
And, and at this time, they're also viewed as more of nuisance animals. And I mean, there's a lot of different reasons that kind of play into the larger picture here. But George immediately was kind of like, okay, this isn't right. We need to fix this a little bit. But the whole purpose of this trip, this multi year trip, was to just gather the information and observe the practices for what they were. And yeah, in the years to follow, he would take all that data and make some recommendations on how to better operate and change practices and stuff. But in the moment, he was simply just there to hear people out and see what was going on. And it takes a lot of restraint, especially with somebody who disagrees with what you're doing. Right, Exactly.
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B
Yeah. It's moments like these and stories like these and these. I just think if people had taken the time to actually talk to indigenous people way back when, not even that far. And even now, there's so much we could have known and learned about our land or our land, their land, and, and not made so many mistakes to eradicate species and ruin landscapes. And it's just, it's interesting now having these conversations where they're like they were, they were thought of these nuisance species where if you had, I guarantee, if you had had spoken to any indigenous people before that you would have learned that they're not a nuisance, that they have a real, a real meaning to being here. And I just think of that when you're talking about it like hud.
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A
It's a real missed opportunity to say it very plainly. You know, it's just, you could have.
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B
Avoided so much death and ruining and, and even just come. I mean, even just being here in the first place, we obviously did a lot of stuff, but if there had just been open conversations that were happening, all of this could have been avoided. So then when you're talking about how George is just, he's just listening and hearing and then later has these conversations, it's kind of bringing it back to like, oh, someone who knows how to have a conversation.
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A
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George and Thompson spent a few nights at another lake nearby and observed a raven cracking into an egg without alerting the nearby adult adults flying off with its contents. To see the aftermath, the two biologists stripped to their underwear and carefully waited up to the nest itself. A large mound of dried plants 3ft tall and 6ft around 5 eggs remained all safe and sound as they should be. They took measurements and went back ashore unnoticed by the parents. Through work like this, they hope to lay out a foundation for a recovery plan for trumpeter swans. Understanding their habitat needs and the threats they face with would allow parks to better protect them going forward. And sprinkled in with their detailed notes of wildlife surveys were glimpses into the lives of the biologists themselves. During their three year long trip, their work was often challenging, getting up at 4 or 5 in the morning and hiking at far distances. But it also had its rewards, spending months outdoors, camped out in some of the most spectacular landscapes this country has to offer. While on a trip through Mesa Verde, George's journal reads, these four days were spent as happily as any I have ever known. The desert scenery for color and fantastic formations surely must be as fine as any in the world. Even Dixon, whose notes were usually pretty like dry and direct and very clinical, almost leaned towards some like flowery descriptions and bordering on poetry. When in awe of the natural world, for example, he said, turning their tremendous spread of white wings against the blue waters of the lake, it made a picture never, never to be forgotten. In each park they visited, George encountered problems that we still see in certain locations today, and specifically I want to hone in on one in particular, and that is park boundaries. There was no relationship between the park boundaries and the natural boundaries of habitats in Mount Rainier. For example, deer, elk and mountain goats flourished in the high elevation park throughout the summer, but come winter they Move down to lower elevation, down into the Forest Service lands, which didn't afford the same protections as within the park. And many were immediately shot once they stepped out of the park boundary protections. These species had been long targeted, with landowners aiming to keep them off their grazing lands for nearby cattle. But by the 1930s, people displaced by the Great Depression and the Dust bowl had also set up camp nearby, depending on the game animals for income and substance. As a result, the protections that Mount Rainier provided were limited, if not useless to these animals, especially year round. I mean, they only spend part of their time within the protections of the park. The problem George described is that the park boundaries were drawn for political reasons, with no considerations for natural habitat boundaries. And this problem was not limited to that specific park. It reared its head in other places too, like Mesa Verde and Yellowstone. George, probably sighing in exasperation, wrote of the the problem in his report, referring to Mesa Verde in particular, saying, quote, on the south and west sides of the park, there are no present natural boundaries. It is like a house with two sides left open. The wildlife team began to argue that parks should be biographically self sufficient units containing enough habitat for their wildlife to survive year round. When necessary, parks should acquire additional lands, and new parks should only be created with this particular goal in mind. For all of these reasons, George and Thompson were sent to South Florida in the fall of 1930 to survive the region's wildlife as part of an evaluation of a newly proposed national park, which happened to be the Everglades. George's notes from this trip are surprisingly sparse, likely because on this particular trip to the Everglades, he contracted malaria. And for somebody who. I didn't have malaria, but I had dengue and it was an awful. I would not be writing in my journal, let me just tell you that. And for him, it proved to be quite debilitating. And it was so bad, in fact, that he couldn't make it back to California as planned. And their road trip stopped at a hospital in Phoenix. But while laid up in the hospital, he made a surprising choice. He decided to get married in the hospital. Yep, George had met Bernice Ray, whom everyone called Bea, when they were both students at UC Berkeley. Two years younger than George, the two were engaged in July of 1930 and had planned to get married months down the road. However, after a phone call, they moved it up. Bea and her family rushed to Phoenix and they were married right there in the hospital.
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B
Did they think he was gonna die?
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A
Yeah, I don't know if they were like. And I've heard of that before. You know, people getting married when somebody has a terminal illness or they know that the other person doesn't have long. So whether they were just impatient, were concerned for his, you know, his welfare, his fate, or especially because he had family inheritance and they wanted to make, he wanted to make sure that B was set legally if he, if something happened to him.
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B
It feels like an emergency marriage. Not that they didn't want to be married, but to do it in that way. It feels like it's an emergency. Like they're, they're really worried.
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A
Yeah, exactly. So he just wanted to make sure that she was set. And he did.
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B
That's really nice.
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A
After three summers of constant field work, he and the team turned to publishing their findings in 1932, while their work would continue for another year, they compiled their findings and recommendations into a publication titled Fauna 1. In it they addressed predator control, trumpeter swans and park boundaries. They discussed over grazing, a common problem caused by elk and deer populations left unchecked by native predators. And they investigated the ever popular bear feeding shows. Thompson would even explore the creation of bear proof food boxes, likely the earliest iteration of this idea. Like something we are. So we come to expect to be provided for us when we recreate in places in bear country, whether it be black bear, grizzly bear, whatever. Like that's common practice now. But here he's like, hey, maybe we should could perhaps try this crazy new idea.
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B
Crazy idea. You know, all ideas are crazy at first, right?
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A
Their recommendations, keeping wildlife wild and limiting human impacts impacts presented an entirely new future for the National Park Service. On paper. Joseph Dixon was the leader of the wildlife survey because remember, they're like, you should be the face of this because people don't like me because I'm short and inexperienced. But everyone knew that George was always recognized as its driving force. George, through his boots on the ground conversations with the public, specifically those who were most connected to the spaces he was studying, recognized that research would not be enough to affect change. They needed to get people on their side, as their ideas about wildlife management were not always popular. Ben Thompson would later say of this time, quote, there were a number of longtime employees, superintendents, chief rangers and others who liked the good old days of predatory animal control and corralling the ungulated toilets so the public could feed, could see them feeding the bears at feeding stations and making a big show of it. There was all of that to overcome and to make progress with that and have them still like you was quite an accomplishment. Joe and I didn't have the kind of personality for it, and we knew it. But George did have it. It was a gift of his character. Thanks to George and his team's efforts, national park leadership would formally adopt Fauna 1 Fund's recommendations as official policy, transforming the agency itself. It was sent by mail to every park superintendent with custom recommendations for each park, including an endorsement from 27 prominent scholars. Which is just such a huge accomplishment.
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B
Yeah.
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A
To affect change not only in one specific area, but throughout the agency.
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B
Yeah.
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A
It's like this is standard now. This is standard protocol for what we do as an agency nationwide. Yeah.
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B
He standardized the protocol for any one of us.
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A
That publication and the changes it served as a catalyst for would probably would have been just like, more than enough. Like, I did it, we did it, Joe. And just hang up your hat and.
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B
But he was just getting started.
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Yeah. For him, the work was just beginning. The success of the wildlife survey helped win the support for his. His next goal, the creation of a wildlife division within the National Park Service. This division would oversee the continued and expanded efforts of wildlife research within national parks. And there was no doubt in anyone's mind who should be the leader of that department. In March of 1933, President Herbert Hoover signed off on George's appointment as the head of the new National Park Service Wildlife Division. He, Bea and their two daughters, Charmaine and Pamela, packed up their Berkeley home and moved to D.C. once there, he was able to hire a small staff, including his friends Dixon and Thompson, to continue research around the country. For the very first time, the wildlife staff were paid directly by the Park Service because, remember, he had been paying. He had been doing everything from the get go out of his own pocket, which is crazy. In this new administrative role, he oversaw a period of significant change in the National Park Service, and not just in wildlife policy. FDR was elected, and his New Deal brought money and manpower to the national park parks. The CCC sent thousands of unemployed young men out to build campgrounds, facilities, and roads. And while the National Park Service welcomed this influx of funds, the resulting development projects often ran in opposition of George's position as a wildlife director. And just because he now led a wildlife division didn't mean he had a seat at every table when it was coming to making these decisions. But sure enough, he made his way into the room. In one example, he heard about a project that was going to essentially pave a certain portion of the road near the south rim of the Grand Canyon. And he had been there quite a number of times doing different surveys and gathering different data. So he knew that area and that dirt road in particular, that they were trying to pave. And he knew that it spanned across a largely intact, remote habitat between the Canyon Village and Havasupai Point Point, an area that had been overgrazed and was in need of restoration. Yet he only heard about this road project after it had been approved. Seeking to limit the impact of park planning efforts, he wrote a letter of protest to the director, making the case that the road should be kept as a wilderness trail for automobiles. Unpaved, he argued it would both preserve habitat and provide a fantastic experience for any tourist who, quote, would like to do a little exploring on their own as a real wildlife trip. The engineers and the architects push back on him right away. George sent Thompson to the area to collect detailed data on the impacts that the road would have. And after considerable back and forth, it was agreed that the road would be modestly improved, but kept as a dirt one. And from then on, the Wildlife division had a seat at every planning meeting. And this was just one of the many ways that George steadily shaped the National Park Service culture. It's just like, he's right there in the. He's like, okay, I hear you, and I understand your concerns and your wants and needs and desires, but also, like, this is a problem, and it's not like my way or the highway. And I think that's when we see so many butting of heads, when it's like, no, we have to do everything my way, and there's no room for consideration of the other person or perspective. And he was just so good at coming to compromise that it made people more open to considering a collaborative effort and maybe a new option. It doesn't have to be A or B. It could be C. Totally.
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B
And he's also coming at it from A. It feels like. And you've talked about this already, but that nobody's really looking at this from the wildlife perspective. So he's coming in and he's like, I see what you want, but what about the wildlife that's here? How can we. How can we fix this? So we're actually doing something that's beneficial to them as well. And when you were talking about the roads and driving them and stuff, you see those dirt roads in a lot of national parks now. And I wonder if this was, like, kind of a.
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A
Well, he was like, yeah, I understand. You want a road here to get tourism to these places and to provide access to people, which brings in dollars to the park because people need to access the park. Yeah, however, like, can we just keep it as a dirt road and not pave it? You know, it's just like. And that's just one example. I mean, there's. There's so many. But that's just one that points to kind of his approach to coming into conversations and getting somewhere with them instead of just arguing around the world.
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B
If you're wrong, that's a bad idea.
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A
And then it's like, we're gonna actually close this whole area because the wildlife needs it. It's like to the other side, they're like, okay, that's all well and good, but that doesn't provide opportunity for tourism.
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B
And we need that which is paying for their protection.
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A
Right, right. The scope of his work had grown. While he continued to sport on the ground research. He began to make his case for wildlife conservation to larger and larger audiences. In 1934, he gave a heartfelt national radio address about the concerning decline of wild game across the country, published Fauna 2, a follow up to Fauna 1, and spoke at prominent conferences, often likely in a strategic move to make important connections. He prioritized relationship with the heads of other agencies, like Bob Marshall, a Forest Service employee and prominent advocate for the growing wilderness movement. It was through relationships like these that he facilitated change, like his connection with Ding Darling, chief of the U.S. biological Survey, a collaboration which helped create the Red Rock Lakes Waterfowl Refuge in Montana, significantly expanding protected trumpeter swan habitat. For California national park fans, you can thank George, like, pour out, pour one out for him here because he spearheaded the effort to create Kings Canyon national park by working with the Sierra Club to coordinate an advocacy campaign and with photographer Ansel Adams, whom he'd met in Yosemite Valley years before. The pair organized an exhibition of Ansel's High Sierra photography, which was displayed for Washington lawmakers, which inspired its preservation. And I think we hear about that a lot with Ansel Adams and how his, his photos really spoke to people who had never seen the area or, you know, just really was like, look at how beautiful this is. This should be protected. But I've, I've heard of that. I've never heard of George's part in it. And now it's very clear that it was an equal effort. And all of this by just 31 years old. Many who witnessed his rise, like former director Horace Albright, believed he would become director of the Park Service someday. And yet, tragically, we know what happens next. On Tuesday, February 25, 1936, George Wright was killed in a car accident midway through the International Commission on The southern border, the National Park Service had lost one of its brightest rising stars. His loss sent reverberations felt by many. His former supervisor in Yosemite, Carl Russell, said, George was at once my greatest inspiration and and best sustaining friend in the office. I feel we have lost the conservationists in our official ranks who really combined understanding with action. I can think of no one who can replace George and Bob Marshall said, probably more than any one person, George Wright was responsible for bringing about the healthy change in the general attitude towards the wildlife problem which has recently developed. He did not think merely in terms of keeping out roads or preventing lumbering or stopping hunting. He thought in terms of the primitive whole, just as he thought in terms of wildlife as a whole. No one could ever ask for a better friend. The Sunday after his death, be invited close friends over to the house where they put on George's favorite music and celebrated his life, then later went to Cypress Lawn Memorial park and spread his ashes at Auntie's grave. Despite his short life, George Wright is widely known as the father of scientific research in the National Park Service Service. His view of wildlife and wilderness as a vast interconnected system rather than separate units shifted how national parks operated and changed what we believe parks can and should be. His friendly approach, building relationships wherever he went, sped up the adoption of ideas that were to many at the time and even now considered radical. However, his absence in the Wildlife Division was felt in the years to come. Park saw continued emphasis on the development through CCC projects, and without George present, the emphasis on wildlife declined in the years to come. Lowell Sumner, a biologist that worked under him and continued on after his passing, described the following years in the Wildlife division, saying no one else had George Wright's ability to placate and win over the opposing school of thought, which increasingly was coming to feel that the biologists were impractical, were unaware that parks are for people and were a hindrance to large scale plans for park development. Considered one of George's most significant contributions, the book Fauna 1 remained somewhat of a working bible for park staff biologists. But with the arrival of World War II, it went out of print and its lessons for a time seemed to go with it. But George's influence and legacy survived, and if you know where to look, his name is honored in the very things that he loved the most most. After the war, several mountains were named in his honor. One in Denali, where he once discovered the surf bird nest, and one in Big Bend. And in the 1960s, the Park Service began to think critically about the issues George had first raised during his time forming committees to kickstart scientific research within parks. Lowell Sumner, still working for the Park Service, repeatedly insisted that George Wright had all this figured out out years ago, someone totally ahead of his time. By the 1980s, two Park Service biologists who recognized how much they owed to George created the George Wright Society, a non profit whose mission is to, quote, promote research, the synthesis of information and the useful dissemination of results to management, policymakers and the public in whose hands the ultimate fate of parks, historic sites and reserves will rest. Fauna 1 still exists today and you can access it for free online. And if you are more of a visual person, photo photos taken by him, Dixon and Thompson during that three year wildlife survey have been digitized for the first time and are available for all to see on the National Park Service history collection website. George Wright's legacy as a boundary breaking and pioneering wildlife biologist is something we can all admire. Yet an enduring part of his story is wondering how things might have gone differently had he lived longer. What would be different today if his vision, his passion and his personality were not cut short? Short we will never know. But one thing is for certain, we owe a lot to George Wright and all that he did to protect our parks. And that is the story of George Melendez Wright.
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B
It's so interesting because I feel like you don't really see his name very often in comparison to a lot of other people. So it's been really interesting to learn about him and all of his contributions and, and it is a question, I mean, how you ended that. If, what else else might might he have implemented during his life if he had the opportunity?
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A
I mean, he certainly served as a catalyst for change that we see in our experiences in parks today. And the questions that he had are still being contemplated and mulled over and thought out today on a larger scale. But yeah, I mean, going through the research for this and just, just the friends and connections that he had, you're right, their names I've heard of before. Bob Marshall, Ansel Adams, even Cornell, even though it was the, the wrong Cornell. But still that counts. It kind of counts because when I did, when I looked at him, I did, I was thinking of somebody else. But the work that this, this guy did, I had heard of before, I just didn't know his name. So just either their work or who they were, I had heard of before, but never, never George. So now people know about him. And if you want to read more about him and his life and all the things that he did I mean, it goes on and on. The book, George Melendez the Fight for Wildlife and Wilderness in the National Parks by Jerry Emery is a fanthat's the book I found in Rocky Mountain National Park.
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B
Gotcha.
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A
That gave me the idea for this episode. And it's so interesting because not only is the book great, I mean, it's very interesting, and it highlights just all the amazing things that he did. But the author has a personal connection to George. So he was a graduate student at UC Berkeley, same school that George went to all those years ago. But when he was there and he was a student, he met and fell in love with one of George's granddaughters.
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B
Oh, no way.
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A
And he got married to her. And like, he had. Because he was. I think he was a geologist or studying geology. So he was in the natural sciences and had known about George Wright, like, in passing. But it's through his partner and his wife that he was like, wait a second. What. Who is. Who was this guy? And he has all this. I mean, b. So, B. Who is George's wife? I mean, she obviously became widowed in her 30s. She was very young, and she did eventually get remarried. However, she kept all of George's field notes and books and notes and everything. So Jerry, the author of this book, had access to all of that and clearly testimonial from his family, his descendants, and of course, he did a bunch of other research and went to headquarters. I mean, he worked on this book for, like, almost a decade gathering information.
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B
And so when he dived into it, though, so that's.
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But, yeah, like, such a cool personal connection. And, yeah, that's how he was really introduced to George Wright. And. Yeah, so it's a. It's a cool way to find interest in wanting to research somebody, not just because they were. They did so much and accomplished a lot, but because you now have this, like, familial connection to them. Yeah, so, yeah, anyway, so, yeah, that's George's story. And again, I. I was saving it for. For a time like this to celebrate Hispanic Heritage Month and just recognize just the contributions that people throughout. You know, diversity is a strength, and we want to recognize just everybody that has contributed amazing things to the National Park Service, and George Wright was certainly one of them. So I will link the book in the episode description and post some fun pictures of him on his adventures. And thank you for listening.
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B
Yeah, thanks, everyone for hanging out. Thanks for telling that story. We will see you next time. In the meantime, enjoy the view, but watch your back. Bye, everyone.
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