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Julisa Prado
With my hair down curly, it changed my whole life. Big brands, like, none of them had products for curly hair. I just genuinely did not think that there was a future in my passion when I decided to actually start working on the business and investing on my money. All right, I gotta make some sacrifices. When you get a PO from a big retailer, it's very costly. You're fronting at least $100,000 to produce that. We actually had a truck full of product and it was stolen. You.
Vivian Tew
Your hair products were hijacked. What's up, rich friends? Welcome back to another episode of Net Worth and chill with me. Your host, Vivian Tew, AKA your rich BFF and your favorite Wall street girlie. Now, let's cut straight to the chase. I have great hair. I mean, it's just true. People ask me all the time if I have extensions, and honestly, no, this is all natural, baby. But I also have naturally straight, wavy hair. So I can go into any store on any block and find something that's going to work for me. But that's not the case for everyone. Up until pretty recently tried and true curly hair products and regimens were few and far between. Usually only reserved for a small section of a random shelf somewhere in the back of the store. But with her brand, Rizzo's curls, today's guest is creating amazing products for all types of hair textures and curl patterns. Everyone, please welcome Julie Soprato.
Tony Prado
Wow, I love that introduction.
Vivian Tew
I'm so excited to be with you today. Before we get started, you have stated that when you were younger, you would save up all your money to buy hair products for curly hair. How much do you think you've spent on product before you started your own brand? Port for the show comes from Walmart. Right now, Walmart's dropping prices all over with thousands of rollbacks and more on items across their app and in stores. Items like TVs and mattresses. Because the only thing better than laying in bed watching TV is laying in that bed and watching that TV that you know you got at a great price. That's one way to sleep better at night. You can shop these amazing price drops on the Walmart app online and in stores right now.
Julisa Prado
So I was definitely in high school back then in middle school in that during that time. So probably hundreds of mm, maybe getting close to a thousand, which for a
Tony Prado
little kid is a lot of money.
Julisa Prado
But I would literally buy things off of, like, infomercials.
Tony Prado
No, I'm not even kidding. I would, like dial the 1-800-1-800 and I don't know how it would charge us. And my mom would get really upset about it, but I would. I was one of those kids.
Vivian Tew
What was the most expensive thing you ever bought and did it actually work?
Julisa Prado
So probably most expensive were things at salons. Like, have I booked a treatment or experience for curly hair at the salon? And. No, never, especially back then, because there it was very limited as to what was even offered. Like, even the big, big brands, like, none of them had products for curly hair. Like, the closest thing sometimes was like an oil, which for my hair, it
Tony Prado
was just like gonna, like, drink it up in two seconds and just stay frizzy.
Julisa Prado
But no, like, I. I did try a bunch of different things at salons
Tony Prado
and stores, and it.
Julisa Prado
No, it felt like conditioner.
Vivian Tew
Can I tell you the most diabolical thing that I bought that didn't work?
Tony Prado
What?
Vivian Tew
It was this little machine that you would put three strands of your hair and it would braid your hair really, really fast. But if you had even a slight miscalculation of how much hair you put in this thing, your hair would get stuck in this machine and you'd have to cut it out.
Tony Prado
I think I remember that.
Vivian Tew
You know what I'm talking about.
Tony Prado
I know exactly. There are so many infomercially kind of gadgets work that I would. I would use as well.
Julisa Prado
It was insane.
Vivian Tew
And you mentioned your mom getting really mad about you just randomly buying these
Julisa Prado
hair tools off tv.
Vivian Tew
Off tv. Randomly. What money lessons did your family teach you? Both positive and negative.
Julisa Prado
So I think the money lesson that they taught me that can be viewed as both positive and negative at the same time is saving.
Vivian Tew
Ooh. Yeah.
Julisa Prado
But, like, to.
Tony Prado
But very.
Julisa Prado
Being very, very risk averse and saving. Saving, Saving, saving. So I think it's something. I definitely think it's something kind of like, instilled in, like, immigrant children.
Vivian Tew
Yeah.
Tony Prado
From, like, your immigrant parents, where they're like, saving their money under their mattress and just, like, be very frugal, like, live way below your means.
Julisa Prado
You know, always save for a rainy day. So ever since I was a little girl, I was always taught to save at least half of whatever I make. So whether it was like, like birthday money that I received or whatever, I was always, definitely, really encouraged to save, because you never know. You never know. So I think that also instilled in me one good thing, which was to save money. But at the same time, I think it also kind of instilled in me this, like, fear of investing or fear of actually spending it and fear of the unknown. When it comes to money, which I think that is, in order to get money back, you sometimes do have to take some risks.
Vivian Tew
Yeah, absolutely. What do you think was one of the most like, frugal things your family did growing up? I'll tell you mine. Okay.
Julisa Prado
Oh my God, there's so many.
Vivian Tew
Like, my mom used to. You know how when you go to the grocery store and then there's like a produce section.
Julisa Prado
Yeah.
Vivian Tew
And there's like those kind of like translucent green bags that you're supposed to put your produce in.
Julisa Prado
Yeah.
Vivian Tew
My mom would get like a bunch of extra and then we would use those bags at home. But I thought, I am pretty confident you're only supposed to be.
Tony Prado
Take like one.
Vivian Tew
Yes. For your carrots.
Tony Prado
For one of my favorites though, which, you know, it is frugal. But now I'm like, oh, I missed those days.
Julisa Prado
Was like anywhere we went, whether it was like Disneyland, the movie theater, we were sneaking in food.
Vivian Tew
Oh, yeah.
Tony Prado
It was like they are not paying for whatever the full price is of whatever that we're going to do.
Vivian Tew
22 for chicken. Chicken nuggets. Are you nuts?
Tony Prado
Hell no. Exactly. So my mom would pack these like really elaborate like lunches and meals for us or. Or even like when we would go
Julisa Prado
to the movie theater and go with like a bunch of our little cousins. It was almost like we had like an assembly line to like make our own burrito.
Tony Prado
So we would be like passing like, stop building it as you go in the moment.
Vivian Tew
It's so funny.
Tony Prado
Yeah. But now as an adult, sometimes I'm like, you know what? Build your own burrito would be real nice right now.
Vivian Tew
Yeah. Oh, man. And you mentioned like learning from your family that like saving is great.
Julisa Prado
Yeah.
Vivian Tew
But it led you to being really risk averse. Talk to me about the decision to start. Rizzos Curls.
Julisa Prado
Yeah. So I think that, you know, I'm such a Pisces and I always say that.
Vivian Tew
Are you?
Tony Prado
I'm such a Pisces in every.
Vivian Tew
I wouldn't have guessed that.
Tony Prado
Really? Oh, I'm such a Pisces in that. Well, I try.
Julisa Prado
I try to have some balance in my life, But I am such a Pisces in the fact that I. I lead with my heart. Like I am somebody that if I don't feel it, if my heart is not in it, it's impossible for me to do anything. And I have to be passionate about whatever it is. So. And I, I'm also a. Because I. I also believe that, you know, whatever makes you Great can also be your weakness, you know, like, both ways. Whatever. My brother especially, he always says, like, your strength is your weakness. Like, it's the same thing. It's just a matter of how you're using that same quality.
Vivian Tew
Yeah.
Julisa Prado
And for me, that quality is this, like, almost like living in a bubble and creating my own reality and being so laser focused on whatever it is that I'm passionate or into. And I. The reason why, for me, creating resource curls was something that was kind of like on autopilot for me was because I was just doing what I genuinely wanted to at the moment. So I. In high school, for example, like, when I explained I was trying all these different products and nothing really works for my hair. And so I started making my own concoctions, making my own formulas in my kitchen. And it wasn't even. I never thought of it as a business. Like, my brain didn't automatically think there could ever be a business in what I was doing. I was genuinely just trying to just do something for myself. And looking to use natural ingredients was also not something that was, like, rare or weird in my household because just
Tony Prado
like, you know, like so many immigrant kids, like, how many, you know, kids can talk about having, you know, parents
Julisa Prado
or grandparents from other countries that come with so many remedies and traditions and,
Tony Prado
you know, that are based on natural ingredients.
Julisa Prado
Like, there's always.
Tony Prado
There's always so many little, little, little trinkets that you're like, you take this tea or like your hands are Dr. Cut this, this, this oil, and we're gonna make this hand scrub. And yeah, you know, whatever it is, which I'm sure you can probably.
Vivian Tew
Thousand percent. I'm pretty confident. My dad, like, emailed me one time with like, a link of, like, how I should tape onions to my feet if I was getting sick. I'm like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
Julisa Prado
No, no, no.
Tony Prado
But tell me why. My grandma had a. So I didn't know this until way later, but.
Julisa Prado
So in college, I had a Japanese roommate for four years.
Tony Prado
And tell me why a lot of
Julisa Prado
her remedies coincided with yours.
Tony Prado
With my Mexican grandma remedies. And we were like, wait, maybe they're like, maybe let's try these onions in our socks thing. Because how are like, two people from different continents telling us the same thing?
Julisa Prado
So.
Tony Prado
So, yeah, so I grew up with a lot of these, These remedies and traditions.
Julisa Prado
And it's really interesting because I feel like a lot of people think it's like a new trend of this, like,
Tony Prado
organic natural ingredients, like, farm to table. I'm like, actually, it's. It's something that, you know, had those. Those tiktoks that say, tell me something that, you know, was. You see somebody else doing.
Vivian Tew
Yeah. Like, my dad was eco friendly before. It was cool because we were just broke. Like, that's what it was, literally.
Tony Prado
So, yeah, so I turned to natural ingredients because one, I was used to it, two, I was broke, and three,
Julisa Prado
I always saw it actually working. So I was making my own concoctions. And then I remember just, like, boiling flax seeds and making little aloe vera scalp masks and, you know, mixing all these things together. And finally I, you know, found a little mixture of concoctions that worked well on my hair. And I just, like, went to school with my hair down. And back then, I was known as the hair girl. I was always really into hair. I would style people's hair. I would. During homecoming and prom season, I would charge, like, I don't know how.
Tony Prado
Like, $6.
Vivian Tew
$6? Yeah.
Tony Prado
Like, come with me. And my. My brother Tony, who's my. Also my co founder, he was a
Julisa Prado
senior when I was a freshman, so a lot of his friends were my clients.
Tony Prado
So, yeah.
Julisa Prado
So I was always known as a hair girl. And I just remember the first time that I went to school with my hair down, curly. It changed my whole life. That was the turning point of my existence, because I used to wear it up, or so I used to always wear it straight or in a slick back pony or a slick, slick look. And back then, also, it was the early 2000s, you know what I mean?
Tony Prado
The flatirons had just come out.
Julisa Prado
It was, like, all the rage back then. So that Aaliyah, like, super, super straight hairstyle was really cool. And I went to predominantly black and brown high schools, and those are the neighborhoods that I lived in. And even though the majority of us
Tony Prado
had naturally wavy, curly, or coily hair, we were all straightening it. No one was wearing a natural.
Julisa Prado
So I just remember that very first day that I wore my hair curly to school. And it took a lot of courage. Cause there was a lot of days where I thought I was gonna do it, and then I ended up putting it back.
Tony Prado
I was like, oh, I'm shy.
Vivian Tew
I'm embarrassed.
Julisa Prado
But the very first day that I did it, I was like, if I'm gonna do it, I have to walk in. Like, I know I look good. Yeah.
Vivian Tew
I own this place.
Julisa Prado
Like, I own this. So I did it. And lo and behold, yes, it changed my Life. It was a turning point of my entire existence. Like, from that day forward, I began attracting undercover cur people that have naturally curlier, wavy hair, but you would never
Tony Prado
know because they always straighten it.
Julisa Prado
I just became like the curl whisperer of my school.
Tony Prado
And any space that I went into,
Julisa Prado
and it's really crazy because I was, you know, doing little curl classes in the bathrooms, helping people with their hair. So many friends that I met, whether it was, like, by going out or at the grocery store or wherever, it was people that I was helping with their hair. But I never thought that that could be a business. I never thought that that's something that I could spend my time on. Like, I went on to work. I went on to. I went to ucla. I went to Wake Forest for business school. While in business school, I was interning for PepsiCo. And then I worked for Nestle. So I was like, on this very corporate route.
Vivian Tew
Yeah. And I. I know your mom was loving that.
Tony Prado
Yeah, of course, they're like benefits. You get a 401k, a pension, like, oh, my God.
Julisa Prado
So I was on a very, very corporate route. And I just genuinely did not think that there was any, like, a future in. In my passion. I just. It didn't even hit.
Tony Prado
Hit my light bulb of my brain, you know?
Julisa Prado
And I just remember also going to these, like, you know, different talks where, especially in grad school, it's very common for CEOs of, you know, big, huge Fortune 500 brands to come and speak to you. And I remember them talking about finding your passion.
Tony Prado
I'm not even kidding.
Julisa Prado
In my notebook, I was like, what could my passion be?
Tony Prado
And I was like, brainstorming options, and the whole time it's, like, hitting me in my face. But, yeah.
Vivian Tew
So what was the turning point that you're like, this can be a business.
Julisa Prado
I think it was me getting very frustrated with the fact that my little concoctions would spoil, they would go bad. I would put them in little ziplocs. They were just very inconvenient with my lifestyle. I would have to put him in the fridge. Like, it was hard to replicate. So it was just very inconvenient. And I went to my brother Tony, who, growing up my whole life, I always considered him as, like, the smartest kid ever. Like, I just always like, nobody's smarter than my big brother Tony.
Tony Prado
Like, Tony, learn about Albert Einstein or whatever. Really intelligent human in history.
Julisa Prado
And I would be like, there's no other smarter than my know it all Scorpio brother.
Vivian Tew
That's so funny.
Tony Prado
So he's always been very like, oh, like, I don't know, like he just like always had the answer to everything. So I always viewed him as being so incredibly smart.
Julisa Prado
And so I took the idea to him. I was like, I'm thinking about making these more professionally my formulas. And I was kind of telling the idea and Tony, somebody who like, I was like, if Tony likes it, he never likes anything like it.
Vivian Tew
He's a hater.
Julisa Prado
Well, not even that he's a hater.
Tony Prado
He just like, it's very hard to impress him.
Julisa Prado
To impress him. Exactly. So I just remember sharing that with him. And then he's very like, when you
Tony Prado
meet him, he's just very like professional.
Julisa Prado
And he's always had this demeanor and he's just like, I'll get back to you in three to five business days.
Tony Prado
After I like pitched him my whole little idea.
Julisa Prado
And then he did and he did his own market research. And he was just looking at it from a very like, non, emotional, non, you know, passion, because you were the creator.
Vivian Tew
But he had to look at it from the numbers.
Julisa Prado
From the numbers, exactly. So he looked at the what type of market share there could be, what type of demographic, what, what, how much the industry even is worth. And after doing his research, he was like, this is a multibillion dollar industry. There are, especially back then when we first started, this was over 12 years ago when we were starting to make the formulas. He was like, there's literally no brands that are like, you know, serving this segment, serving this type of hair texture that you are serving that you want to serve. And he came back to me and said, like, this is an amazing idea. I actually think that you need to do this as soon as possible and as like, well as possible. And I want to help you. So that was that. That's all he had to say. I was like, say less, Tony.
Vivian Tew
So you decide you want to do as well as possible as soon as possible. Talk to me about the money. It's not free to start a business. It's not free to make products. Like, how much did you start with?
Julisa Prado
So at that point, both Tony and I have a corporate background. So I. And you know, really, really blessed that I was just, I was a super, like, I was a super like extra student when I was younger.
Tony Prado
Like, I was that kid that applied
Julisa Prado
to like every scholarship. I was like, really on top of it. So I had a full ride undergrad and grad school.
Vivian Tew
Wow.
Julisa Prado
So I didn't have any loans to repay. I had nothing. So when I Started working out of grad school, or in grad school, actually, is when I started working. I. Anything that I made was just in my pocket.
Vivian Tew
Yeah.
Julisa Prado
And so. So, yeah, so. And I had. I was, you know, brought up with,
Tony Prado
you save all your money, live below your means, da, da, da. So.
Julisa Prado
And back then, when I was working for Nestle, they also paid for most of my expenses. They paid for my car. They paid for my insurance. My car insurance. They paid for. I had a really great situation. Like, I have no complaints when it came to my corporate, like, jobs. And so did Tony. Tony also, I think at the time, he was either working for Macy's or for Juicy, another big company. And we were both just saving. And I think I had around $40,000 saved at that point. And Tony also had around, like, the same amount saved. And I just remember thinking, like, oh, should I use it as a down payment for maybe getting an apartment? And my parents, of course, are 100%.
Tony Prado
I was like, or I could use it to make hair. These hair products. My parents are like, no, it's a terrible idea. Absolutely not. So I used it for making hair products.
Vivian Tew
Wait, so, okay, let's talk about this. You had $40,000. Tony had $40,000.
Julisa Prado
Yes.
Vivian Tew
What was the rationale of, like, let's put all of that into this? We didn't want to be like, hey, we'll put 20 in and then keep the 20 for maybe the apartment.
Julisa Prado
So I was. So I also come from a place where I'm very, very, very lucky that at that time, my parents, they own a house. Like, I'm. I'm a very. I'm in a position where if I need to, like, just live with my parents, like, eat their food, like, I'm fine.
Tony Prado
You know, Like, I can be, like, there's.
Julisa Prado
I'm not gonna be put out on the street or anything.
Vivian Tew
You know what I call that? The parachute.
Julisa Prado
Yes. I have a parachute. Yeah. I have a foundation where if all else fails and I lose all of my money, like, okay, I'm just going
Tony Prado
to live with my parents and, like,
Julisa Prado
have them help me and support me, I guess.
Vivian Tew
And get another corporate job.
Julisa Prado
And get another corporate job. Exactly. And not only that, but, like, I've. You know, I was working as a waitress when I was, like, younger, and, like, I'm not afraid of these, like, side gigs. And, like, I'm. I'm like, you know, I could be a bartender.
Tony Prado
I could make my tips. Like, don't trip about me. Like, I'm. I figured out I'm not afraid of.
Julisa Prado
Of not having money. Cause I've been there before and I'm like, I don't need a lot to be fine. Like, I don't need a lot of money. And I know how to make money.
Vivian Tew
Yeah. So you sink all this money in.
Julisa Prado
Yes.
Vivian Tew
And don't even call it Julissa's Curls.
Julisa Prado
No. So risos means curls in Spanish.
Vivian Tew
So it's curls. Curls.
Julisa Prado
So it's essentially curls. Curls. It's a little like Spanish lesson, per se, in the name. And there was a line from the movie Selena, Selena Quintanilla.
Tony Prado
I have to specify that because now everyone is like, gomez, Selena Gomez. No, she was actually named after the OG Selena. There is a line where she's like. She's so many lines. Actually, the whole movie is about how she's like part of two different cultures
Julisa Prado
and her music and her taste, they're kind of a blend of two different worlds, per se. And I was like, oh, my God.
Tony Prado
So is Riso's Curls. Riso's Curls is like risos is the
Julisa Prado
Spanish side and curls is the English side. So. Yeah.
Vivian Tew
You know, it's so funny because I always wondered that. I was like, huh, her last name's not Rizzo? I wonder why. And it's like, I didn't realize it was a Spanish word.
Tony Prado
Yeah, yeah.
Julisa Prado
And it also just sounds kind of cool.
Tony Prado
Like, I feel like a lot of
Julisa Prado
people think it's an actual name or something else.
Vivian Tew
Like you named it after your grandmother.
Tony Prado
Exactly.
Vivian Tew
It's technically maybe like the grandmother of Spanish language.
Tony Prado
Exactly.
Julisa Prado
But yeah, it's just curls. Curls.
Vivian Tew
I love that. So you become an entrepreneur.
Julisa Prado
Yes.
Vivian Tew
Talk to me about the change of that stability. You are working a good corporate job. Not even a regular corporate job. Good corporate job. You're making good money. You can count on that paycheck every two weeks and probably a Christmas bonus.
Julisa Prado
Yeah, no, I was making great money.
Vivian Tew
Great money. Now all of a sudden you've spent all your money. And that first month you don't even know if you're going to have anything coming in the door. Hi, friends. Quick pause in our show to take a question from my besties. In phone a friend presented by Walmart. Sean asks, what are the easiest ways to save on everyday shopping essentials, groceries, household items, etc. This is such a great question, especially when so many people are feeling the impact of the cost of living increase. Here are a few ways you can save on your daily and weekly shopping. 1. Generic brands are your best friend. That name brand cereal, same factory different box marked up 40%. Store brands are literally the same quality for way less money. It's a no brainer. 2. Curbside pickup is your impulse spending shield. Stores like Walmart allow you to order online for pickup. You stick to your list and avoid those ooh, I need this too. Moments that add up fast. Plus you can easily compare unit prices online to make sure you're getting the best deal per ounce or pound.
Julisa Prado
3.
Vivian Tew
Use a cashback credit card. Cashback credit cards that give you extra points on groceries are a great way to make sure you're getting free money just for buying stuff you were going to buy anyway. 4. Buy in bulk for things that don't expire. Toilet paper, paper towels, cleaning supplies. Stock up whenever they're on sale. But don't bulk buy fresh stuff unless you're actually going to eat it before it goes bad. You'll just end up wasting money. Saving $20 a week on groceries is over $1,000 a year. That's a vacation, that's an emergency fund. That's options. And having options now, that's rich. Back to our show.
Tony Prado
I know I had zero marketing.
Julisa Prado
So by the time we, by the
Tony Prado
time we actually launched, I had zero marketing dollars. I had moved back in.
Julisa Prado
So when, before I launched I was like, I had a, I was living in mid city, an apartment with one of my friends. And before I launched, when I decided to actually start, you know, working on the business and investing on my money, I was like, all right, I gotta make some sacrifices. So I moved back in with my parents. I pretty much was like, I am gonna save every penny that I can. So for a rainy day, literally again
Tony Prado
like what my parents taught me.
Julisa Prado
And so at that point I was like living with my parents.
Tony Prado
We had all of the product like
Julisa Prado
it was like pallets worth of it because there's very high minimums when you're first ordering like any lab to you know, ask at least like a thousand units of each. Any SKU that you, that you order.
Tony Prado
So these huge pallets are just like in my parents backyard and they're like, what are you gonna do with all this? Like get what, what are we. My mom thought I was gonna be like an Avon lady. She was like making speeches at, she's like, I'm gonna make a speech at the church to try to sell them, put them in my trunk. And I'm like, girl, chill. I was like, chill. So at that point point I was,
Julisa Prado
I had already started, you know, making our social media pages and on the social media pages I was mostly just doing general curly hair content. It was in no way viral yet, but it was just people in the community kind of already had built some. I had built some trust around me
Vivian Tew
being the curl girl.
Tony Prado
The curl. The curl girl, Exactly.
Julisa Prado
So when I first. That very first day, mind you, the web, everything was very diy. So when I say we had zero
Tony Prado
bargain dollars, like, I mean, we diy, we spent every penny that we.
Julisa Prado
We had. The models on my website were my cousins, and I. Tony took most of the photos.
Tony Prado
The website was, like, on Shopify. Like, I made it with Tony's help, too.
Julisa Prado
I mean, the drawings on the bottle, on the original bottles, my cousin Vanessa,
Tony Prado
she drew that by hand.
Julisa Prado
I mean, like, everything was the most DIY that you could possibly think of. And so the very first day where I, you know, turned on the. The website, it was insane because. Because I. It was something that I just did not expect, right? So what I did not expect was that the very first day, I just posted that the website was live. We got hundreds of orders that very first week. And those hundreds of orders were people whom I had helped with their hair over the last decade.
Vivian Tew
And the girl from the high school bathroom.
Julisa Prado
The girl from the high school bathroom. Like, when and in the order, you're able to write a note that says, you're just able to add a note. And when I first got those orders, I was, like, crying, you know, receiving the little Shopify receipts, because people were writing things like, I don't know if you remember me, but we met at the UC student conference in the elevator, and you helped me with my hair, and I've been wearing my hair curly ever since. Or like, I met you at the
Tony Prado
club bathroom and you told me what to do with my hair, and I've been wearing my hair curly ever since.
Julisa Prado
So it was all of these people whom I had interacted with within the last, like, 15 years of my life. And they became my very first customers because I had already kind of proven myself to them in my knowledge and understanding of curly hair. And those people became, like, bigger than just a customer. They were like our brand ambassadors. They were our spokespeople because they started sharing. Once they actually tried the products, they were just hooked. And even today, when we get so much data about our customers and how people use the products and shop them, our retention is so high, it's way, way above average. Which tells us that once people actually try any of the products, they keep coming back because they love them. So all of those people that were, you Know, I had met and they purchased the product that very first week that I launched the website. They were sharing and, and, and posting about the products like very, like Avon lady, very. You know, it wasn't like they had huge followings, but they had word of mouth. Exactly. It was very word of mouth. They were posting their hair and saying, I met Julisa 10 years ago at the bathroom and she's been helping my hair. She helped me with my hair and I just bought her products and my results. Like it was just in like you couldn't pay for that kind of marketing and that kind of just like raw, authentic, genuine, you know, testimonials. And that's what we had. It was just realness. And I think that that was such a lesson for me because I feel like for, for a lot of people it's fear and this, this fear, failure that keeps you from doing things and this fear of not having enough money to compete with the big conglomerates. And I feel like the lesson that I learned through that process was that real recognize is real. Okay? If people feel something, if they, if they are, even if it's just 100 people, 20 people that you are able to touch and you're able to really influence, you know, their life and, and convince them to be really die hard fans, like that is worth so much more than, than maybe a thousand people that like, maybe you ceded to and like they were very about your product. But those people became like our armies. And so they then convinced other people to be other die hards. And it was almost like we, it was like it became those 20 became hundreds, two hundreds became thousands of these die hard like true believers in our products. And we were doing a lot of events back then. So we launched eight years ago in 2017 and I was doing curl classes and, and all of these different community style events and it was, it was, it was truly, truly amazing. Like every single event that we had, it was like overly sold out or you know, it was always over capacity and it's just never stopped. And eight years later, like I feel so blessed that till this day we, you know, really resonate with the community. Our values are very strong and even in retail, I mean we've been in retail now since, for five years and at Ulta, we're always in the top three bestselling curl creams that they have. We're you know, killing it and you know, all of our different numbers. So it's just such a blessing.
Vivian Tew
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Julisa Prado
High. Yeah, I think the lows. It's always. There's always lows. Honestly, there's always.
Vivian Tew
If Jeff gave me this most passionate speech about it's been an amazing eight years, and then you're like, actually, it's
Tony Prado
been an amazing eight years. But don't get it twisted.
Julisa Prado
I think being an entrepreneur is one of the most humbling experiences you will ever have.
Tony Prado
Like, get very comfortable with feeling like you know nothing and feeling defeated.
Julisa Prado
Because that is what entrepreneurship is, is feeling that and being comfortable with that, but being able to pick yourself up and dust it off and be very confident in that. I can. I can stand up from this. Like, I can learn from this. I know how to get out of this. So there's always, always. Every single day there's fires that we have to put out. I think one of them that was really annoying, that my brother probably doesn't want me to tell people, is that.
Tony Prado
Is that we actually had a truck
Julisa Prado
that was getting delivered big. Mind you, when you get a PO from a big retailer, it takes you a long time, you know, maybe three months to actually turn around and make that product. It's Very costly. So they're not. They haven't paid you yet.
Vivian Tew
You're fronting.
Julisa Prado
You're fronting that money. Exactly. It could be. It could cost us, I don't know, at least $100,000 to produce that. So we actually had a truck full of product that was being sent to, I believe, Target and they were expecting the product.
Tony Prado
You know, they had placed their order
Julisa Prado
like three months ago, whatever. And it was stolen. It was stolen.
Vivian Tew
Your hair products were hijacked, girl.
Julisa Prado
Hijacked. Like straight up Sopranos.
Tony Prado
Like, I was like, what is going on? Like, the truck full of all these pallets.
Julisa Prado
I'm not even kidding. Exactly.
Vivian Tew
I was so confused because it was
Julisa Prado
like an underground scheme. It was out of the movies. The whole thing just disappeared.
Tony Prado
The truck guy turned off his thing
Julisa Prado
and then it was just like, yeah, it was stolen.
Vivian Tew
Did you ever find out what happened?
Julisa Prado
Kinda, like, we obviously had the police and the insurance and everybody was involved. And granted, like, I didn't know this until later, but, like, I guess insurances
Tony Prado
will do everything they can to not pay your insurance in situations.
Vivian Tew
No, that's very, very common, by the way.
Tony Prado
Like, yeah, I'm a very. Like, so Tony's always almost like seeing the worst in people and then hoping for the best. But I'm always, like, expecting the best in people and then, like, just hoping for the best.
Vivian Tew
Yeah, exactly.
Tony Prado
So I just never. I. My brain, my little, like, super positive, always, like, always sunshine and butterflies brain just did not think that that is how that industry works.
Julisa Prado
Yeah, but.
Tony Prado
But yeah, it was.
Julisa Prado
It was definitely a pain. And it was, you know, Target's probably like. I mean, any retailer, they're like, okay,
Tony Prado
well, we still need product for the shelves.
Vivian Tew
Like, like, we don't care if you got wrong.
Tony Prado
Are you going to send this to us? Business is business. Like, when are we getting this product? So.
Julisa Prado
So, yeah, it was.
Tony Prado
It was straight out of like a movie, you know, we're just like, I don't know.
Julisa Prado
Like, and then me being again with my Pisces Ness. My Pisces is a gift and a curse. Yes, I can be. I am literally like a phoenix. Like, you know that you're born from the ashes. You're like, well, not even that. Like, you know, I'm like, come off very nerdy and sweet and like. But then when I get mad, I'm like, like, I was doing too much. Like, my brother had to sit me down and be like, yo, Sherlock Holmes. Like, sit down. Like, you're not going after these people. Like, I'm not even kidding.
Vivian Tew
Like, not shock Sherlock Holmes. I can't get over that.
Julisa Prado
I'm so sorry.
Tony Prado
He was like, sit down.
Julisa Prado
You have too much to lose. Like, I was like, did it. Honestly, like, the CIA should be all women, because the way we were able to find the guy's baby mama, his mom's house, his.
Tony Prado
Like, I had his Facebook.
Julisa Prado
I had his. Like, I had all his information. I was ready to pull up on him by my. I was like, I don't care if I got by myself.
Vivian Tew
You were gonna pull up and be like, where are my problems?
Julisa Prado
Yeah, like, Soprano style. I was gonna go with my little taser.
Tony Prado
Yeah.
Julisa Prado
Like, you tell.
Tony Prado
You give them to me right now. You give me my curl cream right now, or this taser's going up. No, I'm just kidding. Like, I don't know.
Julisa Prado
I'm just.
Tony Prado
I see red.
Vivian Tew
Like, I'm the same way.
Julisa Prado
Normal.
Vivian Tew
I'm 100% that way.
Julisa Prado
Like, I.
Vivian Tew
And then I. I also love revenge.
Tony Prado
Oh, my God. But I'm too good at it.
Julisa Prado
I literally thought of all these scenarios. I was like, I already know I'm gonna get him back.
Tony Prado
And my Tony literally had to be like, breathe.
Vivian Tew
Like, ma', am, this is not how we do this.
Tony Prado
Sit down. Like, you will go to jail. Can you stop being so insane? Just chill. Let me handle it. Which I did. And I'm glad that I listened to him and didn't go full on, Like, I don't know law and order on these people.
Vivian Tew
But I'm sure that made you mad.
Tony Prado
Yeah, like, I'm insane. Like, I'm so happy and blessed that God doesn't put me into any of these situations that trigger this other side of me, this insane side of me, because it's there. And she sees red and she, like,
Julisa Prado
just full blown doesn't look at consequences. Like, there is this.
Tony Prado
Like, there was this news story about.
Julisa Prado
I guess it was. It was a long time ago, but
Tony Prado
it was like some woman that. I guess her husband or somebody who cheated on her, and she, like, jumped
Julisa Prado
over a table in public with a
Tony Prado
fork and, like, tried to stab him. And I was like. And there was something in there. That she was a Pisces. And I was like, yeah, that tracks. It definitely tracks. So, yeah, I mean, that was a good low.
Vivian Tew
But now tell me your highest high.
Julisa Prado
Okay. I guess highest high would be at both Target and Ulta, which are two huge retailers. Major retailers, retailers. The very first week that we launched, we sold out, like, nationwide at both retailers.
Vivian Tew
No product left.
Julisa Prado
Like, literally no product left.
Vivian Tew
That's why they were pressing you for the truck.
Tony Prado
Yeah, we were like, girl, get this going.
Julisa Prado
And at both retailers consistently, we're always performing considerably over forecast. We're constantly having to say like, okay, well that forecast, we think it's too low, bring it up. We can do more, we can do more. And we're double digit growth year over year, just not only hitting our numbers, but considerably surpassing them all the time. And so that's something that, that just makes me really proud and I don't know, it reassures that what we're doing is working, I guess.
Vivian Tew
Talk to me about the money you're making. I think there's a lot of people that think that when you are an entrepreneur and then you have such a
Julisa Prado
commercial success, it's like money in the bank.
Vivian Tew
Yeah, it's like money in the bank. They put that it's $20 for a product, it goes straight in your pocket. Not quite how that works, but talk to me like of the revenue that you guys are making, what percentage is actually being reinvested into the business and what do you actually kind of like get to know?
Julisa Prado
So like all of it. So pretty much we are 100% self funded still.
Vivian Tew
Yeah.
Julisa Prado
Which in a.
Vivian Tew
Okay, girly.
Julisa Prado
Yeah. Which a business of our scale and of our size, of our, you know, retail distribution, it is very, very rare because it's really, really hard when you have such large orders at a time that you have to, you know, have that enough money in the bank to make the product, you know, send it and wait, you know, sometimes even like six months to get paid for that and keep it going for multiple different retailers at different, multiple pos going on at the same time. So with that said, the reason why we're able to be a self funded business is one, because we've been profitable since day one. We've prioritized profits since the beginning. It wasn't like, I know there's a lot of different businesses out there. Like I think it was like Uber and you know, so many other.
Vivian Tew
They're still not profitable.
Julisa Prado
Yeah.
Tony Prado
That are still not profitable or they
Julisa Prado
have like a 10 year, you know, forecast of when they're going to be, when they will be.
Vivian Tew
And they just keep raising more money.
Julisa Prado
Exactly, they just keep raising more money and they kind of get into this like cycle of it costing. The cost of acquiring a customer is a lot higher than, you know, what they're actually making, etc. Etc. So we did not have that luxury because we were bootstrapping because we were 100 self funded. And because we needed to make money in order to continue growing the business and continue running the business. So we've been literally just like refueling all of our money back into the business. We are an llc, so the way that it. We're still an llc, which the way that it works is like all the money that the business makes at the end of the year, it's essentially viewed as like earnings for the owners. And we just refuel that back into the business and continue just growing it and growing it. So Resells Curls owes me a lot of money,
Tony Prado
which, you know, it's cool. And I also have, you know, my
Julisa Prado
influencers stuff on the side and I
Tony Prado
do like speaking and you know, speaking.
Vivian Tew
I was just gonna ask, how do you split your time between like influencer speaking, like being Julisa versus being co founder of Resos Curls.
Julisa Prado
So I pretty much give my majority, like most of me to just resource Curls just being. Being like, you know, running a company. But I will say, like, I think that I had a very transparent conversation with Tony, my brother last year, slash earlier this year where I was just like, I can't keep doing this. We need to either raise money, we need to like, we need to figure it out. We need to either hire a bigger team. Like, this is like draining for both him and me. Like, I cannot be this involved in the everyday. Every single little inner workings. Like, we need to have an executive team and it's time, you know, because it's been, you know, eight years and it takes a toll on you, you know, being just girl.
Vivian Tew
I know.
Tony Prado
Yeah, I'm sure. You know, like, your schedule is insane. So like, it's almost like you put a. Like you've been doing twice as long as me.
Julisa Prado
Yeah.
Tony Prado
You understand it's not sustainable. You understand it's like, oh, this is
Julisa Prado
a lot on me. But you're like, all right, let's see
Tony Prado
how long I could like go this hard for.
Vivian Tew
Like you take the burnout and you just smother it.
Tony Prado
Yeah, you just like smother it down. And people are like, work, life, balance. I'm like, eh, more like trying to do more of things I enjoy and less of things that I don't want to do. So that my whole life is work. But it's like work better. I like to do exactly work that I enjoy.
Julisa Prado
Correct. So yeah. So that's kind of like where we are at. And eventually my goal for the business is to be able to have. Be able to be a little bit more hands off. Maybe focus more on just, like, product development and maybe certain part more strategy or whatever other areas and not have to be so involved with every single little detail with both Tony and I.
Vivian Tew
Yeah, I love that. And I think that's very, very smart.
Julisa Prado
Yeah. And honestly, it's time. It's eight years.
Vivian Tew
It's time, girl. Eight years. You paid them dues.
Tony Prado
Okay, that baby can run. All right. Hopefully we're gonna need this baby to start pooping by itself.
Vivian Tew
So I do wanna talk a little bit about, like, the heart of Riso's curls. You have been very vocal about how this was made by Made for the immigrant community. Like, talk to me about the money you've helped raise. Talk to me about why it's so important to you, especially right now, since there's some pretty scary headlines that we're seeing.
Julisa Prado
Yeah. So recently, we did a United for Immigrants initiative where we invited other brands to come together and join us for a day of unity in support for the immigrant community. And we were able to raise $250,000 that went to immigrant.
Tony Prado
Org.
Julisa Prado
And it's just. It's something that I feel like we've been doing and we've been supporting and we've been very vocal about since the very beginning of the business. Even before that. I remember going to the 2006 big protest. I don't know if you remember, it was, like, to reinstate, like, DACA and like, all of the different programs to allow undocumented students and workers and people to, you know, have rights that they previously didn't have, like having a driver's license or even attending school. So I just remember being a little kid, and, like, I mean, I was a teenager back then, and it being very important to me back then, and it continues to be important to me today. And I think that it's interesting because I feel like people sometimes think, like, oh, this is kind of a new thing that I decided. And it was like, a big decision for us. And I'm like, we've been doing these.
Tony Prado
We've been doing these type of events
Julisa Prado
since the business first started. And what was it in 2018? I believe we did a similar fundraiser party event where we raised. I think we raised around, like, 60,000 back then. But this is something that I feel like it's just part of who I am, an extension part of the business. And I'm not afraid that it will lead to people not wanting to buy the brand or not wanting to.
Vivian Tew
I was just gonna ask support the product. Do you feel like it's A scary time to be like an outspoken Latina founder.
Julisa Prado
I mean, I think it is. If you've never been it before, you're not used to it.
Tony Prado
But I feel like by this time, people know what time it is with me. It's like, if you, like, you've heard me be like, pro gay rights, pro, like women, pro women's rights, pro. Black people, pro immigrants, pro trans rights, pro.
Julisa Prado
You know, I'm just like, I'm from la. Like, come on.
Tony Prado
I'm like an LA born and raised
Julisa Prado
girl who I think grew up in these black and brown neighborhoods where activism is so intertwined with community work and just community in general. We grew up seeing people and going to school with people that were part of the workers marches supporting field worker rights and so many other types of legislation that helped people feel be more included and be treated with more respect. And also another fun fact, I'm like, activism is so intertwined with the Los Angeles experience that I'm not even kidding. The Black Lives Matter founders, they all taught me social activism at my high school.
Vivian Tew
Really?
Julisa Prado
Yeah, literally, like Patrisse. And a bunch of the people that I later realized were part of like the Black Lives Matter founding group. They were, they. We had a social activism club in my high school. And like, they taught and they helped us with like, they taught us so much about, like, just social activism in general and life and about, you know,
Tony Prado
racial equality and civil rights movement and, you know, just everything that like, you should learn in school.
Julisa Prado
But I.
Tony Prado
And it's so funny because I didn't realize until later and I'm like, yo, they've really been doing the work because they came to my high school and they came and they did events and taught us all about.
Julisa Prado
So long ago.
Tony Prado
Yeah, so long ago. Exactly. So, yeah.
Julisa Prado
So when people say, like, you know, LA is just Hollywood and LA is so fake and this, I'm like, I don't know, because the real LA is out here standing up for other people and really looking out for each other.
Vivian Tew
And fun fact, did you know that the Latino demographic is actually the fastest growing subset of entrepreneurs in America right now?
Julisa Prado
I believe it.
Vivian Tew
So my question for you is, what is your advice for other Latino. Latino founders and like, what can they do? They want to be like you, girl.
Julisa Prado
I would say, don't be afraid to be so authentically yourself because you're not gonna alienate anybody. I feel like my brand and I am such a perfect example that you can lean into what makes you different and what makes you unique and be so Unapologetic about what you love, like what you stand for, what your values are. And it's not gonna alienate anybody. If anything, it'll make your niche be so supportive and feel so, so seen that it then starts attracting other people from that are outside of the niche that wanna try it as well and wanna support as well. But I think sometimes people are afraid to get too niche. And what I tell em I'm like,
Tony Prado
all right, the bigger the niche or the bigger demographic that you want to market to, the more money you're gonna need. So if you don' of money, get specific and make sure you target like you know exactly who you are targeting
Julisa Prado
and you speak to them so transparently, so authentically so that they become your, you know, your, your biggest supporters.
Vivian Tew
That's great advice. And I have one final question for you. Julisa Prado. Do you feel rich?
Julisa Prado
Yeah, I do. But what's something that's really interesting? I, yes, I'm Julie Zaprado. Feel rich. But I think that one of the reasons why I feel rich is because my mom, especially ever since we were little kids, she would always tell us like, you are enough. Like if you had nothing, you are so loved, you, you know, you, you are so intelligent, you are so kind, you are, you are love. Like you exude love. Like you, you are enough. Like whether you don't have anything or you do have things that are like material things that people, you know, view as success in this society. She just, she always put that in me and I think till this day she always tells me that. She always tells me, like, no matter where you go, don't forget to bring yourself or you know, just have fun and enjoy it because if, if it doesn't work out, like you're still you, like you're still so special.
Vivian Tew
Oh man, I should have interviewed your mom instead, huh?
Tony Prado
She would. She, yeah, she probably has a lot to say.
Vivian Tew
Thank you so much for joining me.
Julisa Prado
Thank you.
Vivian Tew
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Julisa Prado
Bye.
Vivian Tew
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Podcast Summary: Networth and Chill with Your Rich BFF
Episode Title: What It Actually Costs to Build a Beauty Brand From Scratch
Date: March 11, 2026
Host: Vivian Tu (Your Rich BFF)
Guest: Julisa Prado (Founder, Rizos Curls) with recurring input from co-founder/brother Tony Prado
This episode dives into the real-world journey, financial sacrifices, and emotional highs and lows of founding a beauty brand, as Vivian Tu interviews Julisa Prado, the founder of Rizos Curls. With warmth, humor, and candor, Julisa and her brother/co-founder Tony detail the nitty-gritty of going from DIY curly hair remedies to running one of America’s top textural haircare brands. They discuss family money mindsets, launching with little capital, the importance of authenticity, and the challenges (and victories) that come with self-funding and scaling up.
Julisa’s desire to embrace her natural curls and the total lack of effective products for people with curly hair seeded her entrepreneurial journey.
As a teen, Julisa spent “hundreds, maybe getting close to a thousand” dollars on products. She and Tony recall ordering infomercial gadgets and failed salon treatments for curly hair that “felt like conditioner” and didn’t work.
[02:10, Julisa]: “I did try a bunch of different things at salons…No, it felt like conditioner.”
Early money lessons: Growing up in an immigrant family, Julisa was taught to be “very, very risk averse and saving…always save for a rainy day.”
[04:09, Julisa]: “I was always taught to save at least half of whatever I make.”
The frugal family resourcefulness, like sneaking food into movie theaters and reusing grocery bags, instilled a strong money consciousness.
[05:47, Julisa]: “Anywhere we went, whether it was like Disneyland, the movie theater, we were sneaking in food.”
Julisa’s initial foray into haircare entailed making kitchen concoctions out of flax seeds and aloe vera, inspired by generational remedies (“remedies and traditions based on natural ingredients”)—not TikTok trends.
[08:31, Tony]: “How many kids can talk about having parents or grandparents from other countries that come with so many remedies and traditions?”
[10:10, Tony]: “I turned to natural ingredients because one, I was used to it, two, I was broke, and three, I always saw it actually working.”
Julisa was the “curl whisperer” at school, styling and helping people discover their texture in a culture that pushed everyone to straighten their hair:
[12:13, Julisa]: “I have to walk in like I know I look good. I own this. So I did it. And lo and behold, yes, it changed my life.”
Despite her passion, Julisa pursued the corporate route—full ride to college and business school, corporate roles at PepsiCo and Nestle, which gave her financial security and the confidence to consider the business.
The seed of Rizos Curls as a “real” business sprouted when Julisa’s DIY concoctions proved inconvenient and her brother Tony (whom she revered as “the answer to everything”) did market research:
[15:42, Julisa]: “After doing his research, he was like, this is a multibillion dollar industry…There’s literally no brands that are serving this segment.”
Both siblings agreed to invest “all” of their savings—about $40K each—placing bets on the brand instead of purchasing property:
[18:32, Vivian]: “Wait, so, okay, let's talk about this. You had $40,000. Tony had $40,000… What was the rationale of, like, let's put all of that into this?"
Julisa acknowledges having the “parachute” of a supportive family home, emboldening her to risk it all:
[19:12, Julisa]: “If all else fails and I lose all of my money, I'm just going to live with my parents and have them help me and support me, I guess.”
To maximize cash for the business, Julisa moved back home and did everything DIY—websites, photos, drawings, even storage in her parents’ backyard.
The early customer base came from years of Julisa helping people with their hair; “real recognize real” word-of-mouth and genuine community engagement (curl classes, local events) launched Rizos Curls without a marketing budget.
[25:34, Julisa]: “Those people became, like, bigger than just a customer. They were like our brand ambassadors.”
Authentic testimonials proved more powerful than paid advertising:
[26:01, Tony]: "You couldn't pay for that kind of marketing and that kind of just like raw, authentic, genuine, you know, testimonials."
Lowest Moment:
A truck carrying $100,000 worth of product for a Target PO was stolen. Insurance claims were hellish, and Target still demanded shelves be stocked.
[32:06, Julisa]: “You're fronting that money. Exactly…it could cost us, I don't know, at least $100,000 to produce that…And it was stolen.”
[34:25, Julisa]: “Honestly, like, the CIA should be all women, because the way we were able to find the guy's baby mama, his mom's house… I had all his information. I was ready to pull up on him…I was like, Soprano style.”
Highest High:
The first week of launches at both Target and Ulta, Rizos Curls sold out nationwide—and continues to dramatically surpass forecasts with double-digit year-over-year growth.
[36:26, Julisa]: “At both Target and Ulta…the very first week we launched, we sold out, like, nationwide at both retailers.”
The brand has always centered and supported immigrant communities. Their recent “United for Immigrants” campaign raised $250,000 for immigrant rights organizations:
[42:27, Julisa]: “We invited other brands…for a day of unity in support for the immigrant community. And we were able to raise $250,000 that went to immigrant.org.”
Activism isn’t a trend for Julisa—it’s part of her upbringing and the LA community she comes from.
[45:27, Julisa]: “The Black Lives Matter founders, they all taught me social activism at my high school.”
She encourages Latinx entrepreneurs to lead with authenticity and serve their niche—the best way to build an army of true believers:
[46:47, Julisa]: “Don’t be afraid to be so authentically yourself…If anything, it'll make your niche feel so seen that it then starts attracting other people…”
On risk-taking:
[04:18, Julisa]: “In order to get money back, you sometimes do have to take some risks.”
Sacrificing everything:
[18:32, Julisa]: “So I used it for making hair products.”
On why launch succeeded:
[25:34, Julisa]: “Those people became, like, bigger than customers. They were our ambassadors.”
On lows in entrepreneurship:
[31:13, Julisa]: “I think being an entrepreneur is one of the most humbling experiences you will ever have. Get very comfortable with feeling like you know nothing and feeling defeated.”
Hair truck heist:
[32:27, Vivian]: “Your hair products were hijacked, girl.”
[34:46, Julisa]: “I was gonna go with my little taser...like Sopranos style.”
On sustained hustle and burnout:
[40:00, Julisa]: “I cannot be this involved in the everyday…We need to have an executive team and it’s time.”
On feeling rich:
[48:09, Julisa]: “Yeah, I do. But…I feel rich because my mom…would always tell us like, you are enough…Like you exude love. Like you, you are enough.”
This episode gives a raw, detailed playbook for how to build an enduring, mission-driven brand: lean on community, stay frugal and resourceful, lead authentically, and embrace the chaos and humility of entrepreneurship. As Julisa sums up, “I feel rich…because my mom always taught me that I am enough—whether I have everything or nothing.”
For aspiring founders—especially women of color and children of immigrants—this episode is both a masterclass and a shot of unapologetic inspiration.